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Episode Date: March 26, 2025

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The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. 17 after 8 and joining me in studio, Mark Huddo holding down the fort at J. Austin and Company in gold and silver and Ashland and Grants Pass. Mark, why don't you talk about where gold and silver are going, kind of an overall look at the market. It's been an interesting time. What is gold signaling in your opinion? This is something that you've been doing at Jay Austin for a long, long time, been a long

time sponsor, and so that's my dog in the fight, I suppose, but I find it interesting too. I wonder if you can kind of set it up where things are. Well, traditionally speaking, it's always been extremely difficult to try to predict where gold's going to go, but I think it's getting easier because there's so many factors at play, right? So you literally have like the emerging economies, China, India, and even Poland. If you're looking at their combined purchases of gold at a central bank level, it's about a thousand metric tons a year for the last three years. Which which is relatively high. If I recall, if you're looking at it,

now we're assuming though that the numbers that we're getting are legit. Do you know? Cause how can we tell what China is doing for anything really? Yeah, it's difficult. China will under or over report anything that they're doing, but you can see in the marketplace, you can see the demand, right? From the larger buyers. Now, the middle class and the smaller buyers

seem to be selling in large numbers. And so, and if you look at the stats, I just got an update, about 5% of people cashed out a little bit of their 401k in the last year to pay for bills and things like that. So that's a- So it's indicative of some under the noise stress, I guess, with economic stress of one form or another.

Absolutely, and you also have the balancing of tariffs, right? Traditionally, I've been involved in import and export, right? So traditionally, if I try to export to China to get a diamond directly into China at the time, as opposed to going through Israel, right? To get a diamond directly into China, you literally needed to know someone, right?

It was very difficult. And tariffs are extremely high. Canada is the same way. When I ship, you know, as an individual, if I buy something from Canada, historically, I paid no taxes up to, I think, about two grand, right? But if I send a $60 item to Canada, they're taxed right from the beginning and then they hit me asking me to reduce the price for them. That's really interesting and I think a lot of people don't realize this and this is why I think and I don't know if I necessarily agree with you know the

tariff situation but when Trump talks about reciprocal tariffs, this is what you're speaking of. Correct. Most people are unaware of it because it's called the North American Free Trade Agreement. Yeah, it's the North American Free Trade Agreement. For them. For them. Yes. But that essentially means that then we're putting, we're paying tariffs for a lot of stuff, or no, we pay tariffs to send something to them. Right, now we don't pay it, the customer always pays it. The customer, yeah. But then they try to hit us to give them a discount. And these are, some of these purchases

are ridiculously small, you know? Whereas we can order things, for example, if you order parts from Canada as an individual, you've got a fairly large deduction. And then after that, I remember ordering a sawmill part and it was a 10% tax after I exceeded my deduction. So a certain amount of small purchases, we regular schmoes can deal with this no problem. What it really starts kicking in though are for industrial purchasers

and businesses, the commerce across- Businesses are hit hard in Canada and China if you're trying to export for the United States. You know, I gave up on it. Trying to export from the United States. From the United States to those countries. I gave up on it. If you want to import from those countries, it's exceedingly easy to learn the-

So when President Trump talks about reciprocal tariffs, it's really saying, all right, you're screwing with us, we're gonna screw with you. Right. Is that kind of where I see this? Right. And that has a temporary destabilization effect, right? So then you see a lot of money go into metals and safe havens during times like that.

People are trying to figure out what's going to happen. And so when things like this, when new things occur, you see a lot of the investment firms and a lot of the larger buyers go into gold and silver. I find it interesting that at the same time that the big money, and I dare call it the smart money because I call it the smart money only because it is so big and the only way that it gets big and stays big is that it notices things and is usually ahead of a trend. They're net buyers while we the people are net sellers right now. And you're looking at this worldwide right now.

An overwhelming difference in ratio. And normally when you see that, like for example, if you see 95% of people buying, then you can kind of predict there's going to be a crash. It's the middle class, 95% of people buying, then you can kind of predict there's gonna be a crash, right? If the middle class, if 95% are buying. Now, if you're larger transactions, 100,000, a million dollar transactions. You sometimes have million dollars? Absolutely, yeah. Really?

Yeah, and if you have, absolutely, you cannot transfer, if you're looking at a destabilized economy like this, you cannot transfer your wealth to the transition of this economy by buying bullets and ramen noodles. You've got to buy gold and silver, right? And of course there's a different rate for those people and they deal directly with me,

but absolutely there's clients like that out there. Wow. Yeah. Could they adopt me? Right. Put me in their will or something. Do you want me to ask next time? Yeah, just ask him next time. He's a little right for it.

My father's already passed away, so it's okay. He wouldn't be offended if I was adopted by him. Right. All right, fun. Absolutely, and so they're not looking at that from the standpoint of, you know, how am I going to buy food with gold and silver? It's like, how am I going to buy food with gold and silver? It's like, how am I going to get my wealth across this economy?

And that's what big money is doing right now. That's what central banks are doing right now. But then the little guy with an ounce or two or three of silver or whatever it is. Yeah, anywhere from an ounce to 10 or 20 ounces, right? We're little fish in that. Compared to them we are. In the grand scheme of things. For ourselves we're not. Yeah, for us it's big. I look at that. But we're selling right now and they're buying hand over fist right now. That's right. And I find it

interesting that there's not more conversation about that. That the small fish, in some ways, there's no reason that the big money is going after the gold and silver trade right now, because the big money has ignored the gold and silver trade for the most part for many years. Would you agree with me on that? Kind of. We had large transactions before. But it was kind of sleepy. I could call it that. I think a lot of people would call it sleepy. I think that's a good word.

But internationally, it is just intense right now from everywhere you look. United States buying, Europe buying, China buying, Russia buying. So if you're an insider, you know something is wrong, right? And they wouldn't be doing this unless they thought something was wrong. Correct. So why haven't we? It's not conspiracy theory Thursday. I know it's not conspiracy theory Thursday. But that's okay. We're paid.

It's like my friend Matt up in Grants Pass, who was a stock guy, he's a picker and things like that, and he does a great job at it. He says, I'm paid to notice things. Well, we have to be smart enough to notice things also. Right. So you're seeing with these audits, you're seeing a lot of crazy spending people didn't know about and you're seeing a lot of unaccounted spending. You're talking about the Doge thing. Right. So in February, four point something trillion dollars where it didn't have the the identity tag of where it went. You know, it was spent, it was recorded, but they didn't know where

it went. Right. And then you have this we're going to audit Fort Knox next week and well, the next week passes and the next week passes the next week passes. And then you have Scott Besson talking about, we're talking about a sovereign wealth fund and we need to put all of this public land and these assets to work. You think we could get a half percent on $300 trillion worth of federal assets? I'm just tossing out a number as an example here. Right. So, you know, when anything like this happens, you have to look at metals very seriously because the game always is, as you're

trying to transfer, the goal of the authoritarians and the centralized power grab people has always been the same. This isn't new, right? You get everybody else to work for you for free and then to make mistakes and then you take it. How did Baron Rothschild make his money? He went into the London exchange and he pretended, well he did, he sold everything off, but in front of everyone. And so everyone panicked. It's because they're seeing him selling. He, right, so they saw him selling,

so they all sold, right? And then he went and bought it all back. But here it is, we see the big money, buying, buying, buying, and the little guy's going, hey, I'm selling right now. Right, and some of that's because you have to. Right, if there's- If you have a call on something, you got an expense,

you gotta sell what you have. And if you have 5% of people right now cashing out 401Ks to pay bills, they're cashing out early. That's alarming. And so, yeah, you're gonna have a lot of sellers as a result of that. And the thing that hurts is that we have all the sellers, obviously, the premiums that are paid start to slide because the market's just one way. On one

ounce. Now, on a thousand ounce bar, the premiums are the same as they were. Now, the premium is what you charge for your expense of doing that. Right. And at the wholesale level, those premiums change. Like when you're buying from the house, right? Those premiums change like when you're when you're buying from the house right those premiums change for us because we have a central exchange right so sometimes it's more for us to get and they pay less and so if they see all of the one-ouncers coming in at one time right then

they're going to start paying less for those you see all right if they see 10 ounce bars and they see mountains of those coming in they're going to start paying less for those. Do you see? If they see 10 ounce bars and they see mountains of those coming in, they're going to start paying less for those, a little bit. It's not substantial. All right, let me just say, what is your opinion as someone who has been in this business for a long, long time?

Sure. And you're not like someone who is 22 year old, just got out of college and has not seen setbacks, recessions, bull markets, bear markets, that sort of thing. Why is the big money and why are central banks buying the gold in such massive quantities and continuing and almost not caring what the price is right now? Because to me, I think it's trying to signal something.

And I'm not convinced it's necessarily economic as much as maybe war, possible war. Well, why the other question is also, why are they not all shorting? Because normally when you see this level of buying, you see people also put shorts into the futures market. To try to manipulate it down. Well, yes, they can buy more at a cheaper price or so they can, if the price falls,

they get paid on that contract. And so their gold stash is safe, right? So if you go and buy a metric ton of gold, right, drop a hundred billion dollars on a ton of gold, and then you short that, right? And so then you've got the stable commodity that you're holding, right? Because if it goes down- But it looks like they've lost control of that, of the ability the ability to short the gold market and there's been talk in the conspiracy theory Thursday world, okay, that well there has been so much paper gold, in other words just certificates, that out there way more

paper gold than actually existed. But now there's a huge demand that people don't want the paper, they want the actual delivery of the metal. Yeah, and that could be, you know, I've heard that and that's happened, you know, we saw that in 20, I believe it was 2010, there was a lot of demand for physical delivery and some of the contracts and some of the exchanges were changed where you can't get physical delivery,

you know, interestingly enough, but- So what are you trading? Right, you're trading paper. Might as well be Bitcoin. So people don't, well, you know, Bitcoin has, but. So what are you trading? Right, you're trading paper. Might as well be Bitcoin. So people don't, well, you know, Bitcoin has actually turned out really well and central banks are buying some Bitcoin as well. So, you know, there's always skepticism

because it is electronic, right? And so there's always the fear of something could happen with that. But central banks are, I mean, they're allowed to put a substantial, in 2025, the rules for central banks changed and they're allowed to put a substantial amount of crypto into their portfolio as a hedge.

And so that tells you something as well. Yeah, so that wasn't true in 2024. So in 2025, they're able, I believe they're able to have 2% of their books as actual Bitcoin. All right. And originally it was 1%, but then they begged for it to be doubled to 2%.

So that tells you something that's going to happen there as well. Ultimately, what is your opinion here, Mark, as someone who's been in these markets? Is it a war trade right now, or is it a great reset trade, or is it some combination of that? I think there's a combination of these,

both of them are attempts. I mean, if you look at the last administration, to me it seemed like as someone who's studied international relations quite a bit and traveled a lot, to me it seemed like they were trying to start a war. I think anybody watching that is like, I think they're trying to start a war, right?

Well, war is the biggest resetter of all. It is, it is. And if you look at the Ukraine situation, they never intended to win that., right? Well, war is the biggest resetter of all. It is, it is. And if you look at the Ukraine situation, they never intended to win that. They just wanted to draw it out. And they're really angry that... Well, and grind down Putin. Grind down Russia.

Yeah, but is he really being... I mean, is Russia really being... Who's trying to take Russia in the winter and won, right? Are they really being ground down? Yeah, I know, I know. You know, is that really... You know, I don't think you can grind them down so easily. They have lost a lot of people since... Who was that? The guy from England, the former prime minister got involved and broke up the peace agreement. Over a million and a half people have died.

Is that Tony... Johnson, maybe? Not Tony, it's not Tony. Boris. Boris, thank you. Yeah, if you say a Russian name, there we go. Right. Boris.

Broke that up. And so, you know, one and a half million people have died since then. All right. All right. So that's what's going on. We just wanted to give people just a kind of a thumbnail sketch, but it's the fair trade. There is just at this point a consensus among the big powers and the big money that there's some issues in play. Absolutely. And you're going to go, if you ask why are you going to go into gold and silver as a central bank, it's because you believe

all of the other assets that you're allowed to hold are going to fail. And so this kind of goes, they're not going to do as well. You're not going to do as well. See that reminds me. But you don't believe they're going to do as well. That would be more accurate. That reminds me a bit of that, of that situation, that guy who, uh, the money guy who wrote the great taking. Did you ever read that? I did not.

Okay. You got to read it. I'll send you a copy of it. Okay. It's a free PDF, you know, out there. And I forget his name off the top of my head. That's not important right now. But saying that he thought we were stumbling into this great taking of all the amazing paper wealth and claims on this and that and the other all multiply hypothecated, bought and sold and borrowed against multiple times and that he's thinking that this is going to be coming to an end at some point. Interesting. And then it's like you either have the physical, you have something in your hand, or you got nothing. Well, I've always believed that. That's one of the reasons we never offered

anything but physical. We've been approached many times and it's a very lucrative business to do gold storage and charge people for that. But if you don't have it in your hand, essentially it's not yours. Yeah, that's kind of what I was getting at. Mark Hutto once again from Jay Austin in Ashland and Grand Spass, Jay Austin and company Gold and Silver Buyers. All right, we're going to get away from that here for just a moment. We'll take a quick break and be back with it. I want to, in a few minutes, I want you to kind of explain your experience about getting a Luba appeal. Okay, absolutely. Yes.

All right? Because I know you have some forest reserve land up on the Wodland resource, which is the larger part, the smaller parcels are Wodland resource. Okay. Yes. And it is amazing the flip flops that you have to go through to get it is indeed built to get nothing done. We'll tell you more.

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Okay. It's pretty drawn out. And so what we're probably going to do is that, well, you have another appeal coming up at some point. We don't know. Okay. It's pretty drawn out. So what we're probably gonna do is that, well, you have another appeal coming up at some point where we don't know the total result. My petition for review should be going in pretty soon and that's basically your final argument of why their decision is not valid.

And this is going back to all the flip-flopping that you have to do to get nothing done. Yeah, correct. When it comes to owning property in Oregon. All right? What I'm discovering is that they will, the planning will hide under the guise of not giving you legal advice when they say,

well, why didn't you ask me how long I needed the permit for? Well, they'll tell you that, well, that's giving legal advice, we're not gonna do that. But then they'll give you bad legal advice to say, well, you don't have a homesite permit on that property when you in fact do. And so this creates a compliance issue and either it's, in my opinion, it's either incompetence

or hostility or both, right? And so something needs to be done about that. We can't just sit around and have someone else own our property bill, because that's what's happening. That's essentially what's going on. I'll tell you what, since it is so late in the show, all right, let's have you come back and we won't talk gold and silver next time because we got kind of sucked into that because I find it interesting what the big boys are doing. Let's have you come back and talk and talk about just your personal experience and then maybe get other listeners that are also sharing their issue. Yes, I got a lot of feedback, by the way, from the last show and it's pretty shocking. The fun and frivolity in planning. It's disgusting.

It's destructive. People's lives were destroyed. People's lives have been destroyed by planning departments in this valley. And it's time for some accountability. It absolutely is. This idea where you can lie to people with impunity? No. That's got an end.

That needs to come to an end. I'll tell you what. Would you be available for, it would be appropriate on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. It is the conspiracy out in the open. Well, you know, I don't like to discuss, I like to discuss law. Okay. Yeah. And so, because I'm arguing under the existing laws. I'm not trying to argue outside the law at all. All right. So I like to discuss it from that perspective.

Okay, then let's figure, I'll get in touch with you, we'll have you back, we'll talk about only the property thing and we'll make that maybe an entire hour, okay? Yeah, we could do it. I think we'll probably need that. Have you guys been discussing Joe County and their changes to their charter at all? Well, they had those proposals, that proposal you sent me was something that was proposed like a little more than a year ago. Okay. It didn't go. This was the one about changing the

charter to reference things that I've been in favor of. Yes, absolutely. It looked really good. I've got the list right here. Yeah. Changing from agency of the state to body politic. Right. Okay. Prohibiting a sales tax, prohibiting rank choice voting. I'm not aware that this has moved anywhere. I'm not either. This is just proposals. Yeah, because the website doesn't exist now where it came from. Okay, so that's dead in the water. So I think it may be dead in the water at this

moment. That's why I was asking you to get your input on that. Conversation for another time. It is. But we'll have you back. We'll talk property next time. And I appreciate you sharing your thoughts about this in this crazy, crazy, crazy world. And well, I'll catch you on the Signal app tonight. Okay? Oh yeah, absolutely. All right. Said no, Bill, ever. All right. Thanks, Mark. It's 20 before 9. It is open phone time here for the final 10-15 minutes. I would love to take your calls on anything on your mind. It's always a great talk. And it's not even Conspiracy Theory Thursday yet. This hour of the

Bill Meyers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing, our show on 1063 KMED. Streamed on KMED.com and I appreciate you listening wherever you happen to be 1063 1067 1059 for Grants Pass and of course during the morning show 99.3 all the way out to the tunnels. Lucretia you have been scammed. Oh my goodness what happened? And tell me your story what's going on? You said you're looking for some help this morning and we have a lot of people willing to help. What's up? Oh god you know it started with the city sewer backing up in my home and rolling just royally not doing the job that you have to do to mitigate and remediate it. Okay, I just want to be clear.

The sewage, the sewer treatment or the sewage pipe in your house backed up due to City of Ashland issues, correct? Right. Okay. And it went all the way to the back door to the front door downstairs, underneath the walls, underneath the cabinets in the kitchen, you know, just underneath all the walls, into the laundry room, I mean under my lazy Susan which they didn't see because they didn't take up the rest of the floor. All right, did the City of Ashland accept liability for this? I don't know,

I'm coming in after this is all over, okay? They did, but they only paid me 32,000 to do it, which wasn't even enough. They wouldn't change out the cabinets, they wouldn't change out the cabinets, they wouldn't repair all my furniture, dust and drywall went up into my hallway, into my HVAC, into my carpet. I mean, it just ruined so much of the house. And this other girl got 200,000 and a place, free place to live. I couldn't sleep in my house though. It was so moldy. I slept in my car at 68 last, two winters ago. Wow, okay. Now, did you ever have any legal representation

during this time? You know, I had had problems with my parents when they sold their house up at 6,000 feet. I couldn't sleep with that much snow, and you don't wanna plow it, you can't just park down in the neighbor's property. They had an easement. Anyway, we lost $160,000.

Lawyers are $500 an hour, and the different mold companies said, oh, that was a good amount. Yeah, no, I get that. Are you saying your cash pour at the moment? Is that what's going on? Well, no. What's frustrating is that I had all these handymen because nobody else would take a floor plate and do this. I couldn't find any licensed, bonded, insured in to do the whole job because it wasn't clean. I mean, you could smell it. There's no way to rebuild when you've still got all your OSD floor that's drenched and stayed wet for 10 days.

If it's wet for more than two days, the professional will say you have to replace it. All right. And the city, so the city of Ashland offered you 32, so I finally found a bond insured contractor to get my toilet, the bathroom tile, to finish the drywalling and plastering and painting and all that, the walls. I bode my walls, it was just beautiful. Anyway, he came in and also had leaked into the fireplace and I was getting arthritis just having, you know, sitting by my gas fireplace insert, so I wanted to get that repaired. They did that first. And then he brought in a guy that said, I can do the cabinets, but we've got to demolish them, you know, and I can replace them. I've done it for 20 years. I can match them up. Right. All right. Well, this is sounding almost like a,

is your house getting to the point where it could be a tear down? A serious question. No, it's doing way better. But yeah, they should have. But the point is, this guy wrote me a proposal. But when I went to the judge, you know, to the court, that was another like four or five hundred bucks just to do that. It's small claims. Because he didn't put the Z flashing under the P111 in redoing the fireplace insert. Yeah, yeah. Now, see, I'm not handling the law. I don't want to give you legal advice here. What are you looking for for help though? Because it sounds like you need,

it sounds like you need a good attorney, okay? And I don't know if you're going to do this pro se, and you're talking about $500 expenses. I think you've got problems that are way more than $500 in court filing fees. This is where I need help, if anybody can tell me. This guy wrote me a proposal on a contract. You're supposed to write a contract before you do more than $2,000 worth.

He wrote a proposal, but he didn't know how to do it, he said. So the other guy, the cabinet guy that's not bonded and insured, wrote it, put his name at the top, the other guy that's bonded and insured, where does his license number, he signed it, put his name at the top, the other guy that's wanted, with his license number, he signed it. And the judge turned around and wasn't bothered by that, that he never wrote me a contract. And it was scribed to live there. And then when I gave her all the paperwork that you're supposed to put the Z flashing under the T111. Okay, don't get it. Don't get into the weeds here, Lucretia. I don't have time. Okay. What do you need? I

Need somebody to tell me is it legal to literally just write a fake proposal? Well, you don't even sign it and not a contract and then They scam me totally because the whole job was just disgusting. All right. Did now did you give them money? Yeah, I paid him off because I didn't I didn't realize the deflation was under the other handyman. I noticed that. But also the cabinets, I didn't finish paying them. It still cost me about $6,000 for nothing. All right, all right.

This is OK. You know, here's the deal. Is it legal for people to write you a contract that they shouldn't? I can't answer that. I don't even know if my listeners can answer that either, Lucretia. You have to buy some legal time to explore that. I don't think you have any choice but to do that. I really don't.

Yeah, no, I called the CCB and it's like they can't even help me. Okay, well, you know, if you've called these people and they can't help you, then I would take them at their word. They probably can't help you, then I would take them at their word and they probably can't help them. It sounds like you got hosed, but more importantly, have you signed off with the city of Ashland holding them non-responsible? In other words, did you get a settlement from them for $30,000 and did they pay you? I know, yeah.

And Alan Bohr was helping me and trying to talk to me. Yeah I know okay don't get into that I don't care. Did you take money from them? Yes. Okay you took money from them and in signing that off did you say hey we're done? They said that. I said you guys forgot all sorts of stuff that I have to do. Yeah but then you shouldn't have taken the money I don't think. That's the problem. I don't know how you fix this after the fact. I'll tell you what, I've got your phone number and if there are any legal eagles, some people that might be willing to take a look at this and give us an idea, I will do my best. But it sounds like you're trying to fix something after it's already permanently broken. Right, look, there's so much fraud. Everybody just...

Well, the main thing is that it sounds like the city of Ashland, of course, got off cheap. But still, this is where I think that there needed to have been a property attorney involved in this one on something this big and that damaging. Lucretia, I'll throw it out and see what the Southern Oregon jury might think about this, okay? I don't think there's any free or reduced cost help on this. Does anybody have an idea? Because, yeah, she got screwed.

It sounds like she got screwed, but it also sounds like once you take the settled one, I think you've pretty much settled unless there's something that wasn't disclosed, okay? And once again, I'm not an attorney. And I probably gave him more airtime than Bill Handel would have. But maybe he would have had a better answer too. I don't know. Hi, good morning.

It's Open Phones here on Wheels Up Wednesday. Who's this? You kind of sound like Bill Handel. All right. How you doing, Brad? Good morning. Hey dude, you know what amazes me? Listening to you and all the great stuff

that's on the air that you provide. But with consumerism, I've been a business guy over 40 years. Thank you, by the way. I'm amazed how many interactions I've been a business guy over 40 years. Thank you by the way. I'm amazed how many interactions I've had with people that spend money without verification. Could you give me an example of that? Very substantial money. Like what?

Well, like paying a contractor for more than, well, more than half of the job before they did the part of the nail. Now that's a choice an individual can make, but it's certainly not a smart choice. Well, you look at what happened with Lucretia as an example, and I could see how you end up getting forced into or you, I don't know, maybe you even forced yourself into an unwise settlement or taking the check because you got sewage in your house. It stinks to holy hell, right? We know that. And you've got the mold issues that come up with, you've got the sewage into the strand board, the oriented strand board, the OSB like she was talking about. And it's like a trauma.

It's a trauma that you're just hoping, you know, get this fixed, get this fixed, get this fixed and, you know, living in a car and all the rest of it. Something tells me there may be a lot of Lucretias in some kind of world here, but I don't think there has to be, there would have to be a lawsuit on something like but I don't think there has to be There would have to be a lawsuit on something like this, don't you think and I know I hate saying that but I don't well I don't see another way out of it the obvious marker on the wall is Ashland sewage is a much higher grade. That's true. It is affluent effluent Hmm, absolutely, but you know it's

sad, but you know the scam stuff that's out there is not more pervasive than ever. And I'm amazed sometimes you're caught and you know there's no question individuals take advantage of people like Lucretia because she's in a crisis. But unfortunately, that's the time you need to step back. It's not that easy. But you have much more ability to control if you're stepping away from a dynamic and bring in people that hopefully are well-trained and whatever it is they do this. Yeah. The other thing I would say is that please, please, please make sure you have that kind of

damage coverage on your homeowner's insurance. Yeah. And if your home was paid for and you don't have homeowner's insurance, then you're an idiot. I'm sorry. And the long homeowners, I won't tie up your time, but this was on the news yesterday and I knew it was coming. But one of the local stations were interviewing homeowners in Jacksonville who cannot get homeowners insurance. Even though they have practically stripped their property. It's all fire wise, right? Yeah. Yeah, there's a war. Is There's a war. Yeah, there is a war on the property owner and the war is coming from the state. And, you know, there's a party that wonders,

can we win this battle? Are there enough armies of outraged citizens that can make a difference? I'm not sure at this point where if more people are just going to give up and throw their hands up and leave the state. Maybe they want it that way. I don't know. Let's hope not, brother. All right. Thank you. Hey, appreciate the call.

Good hearing from you, Brad. It's 854. Have some emails of the day and one other touch on before we take off, too. Good stuff. This is the Bill Maier Show. One of each. Click keemedford.com. This is Randall with Advanced Air, and I'm on KMED.

856, some emails of the day. Myer show. possibility there. You have an in-house lab. Works really cool. It's fun to watch your crown being made if you want. I'll show it to you, all right? Central Employee Family Dentistry dot com, dot com rather. Get your appointment and talk with Dr. Steve. It's on Freeman Way next to the Mazelon Mexican restaurant. Patrick writing me about the classified signal text. It says, hey Bill, Russian collusion dot two or part two and if this had been during Biden, we would have to assume that it was sent by anyone other than Biden. After all, how could he

figure out how to send a text, much less alone, come up with any reasonable attack strategy? Jeff writes me about the war email. He says, Hey Bill, if the message was encrypted, who gave the Atlantic the decryption key? Well, he was invited into the chat apparently here, Jeff, and it sounds like an intentional message to the enemy to make them worried. Okay. We have Jerry, or no, let me go to John. John says, hey Bill, can you find a clip where Cliff Bentz said, screw my healthcare and play it for us out here?

John, I'm sorry that that sound clip or that sound bite does not exist, but it is within the fevered partisan minds of Oregonians for democracy, the people who have bought that attack at, apparently. Hans Albuquerque writes me, Bill, it's interesting how the tariff Dan's undertow is all about American jobs and buying America and yet these same supposedly loyal American companies and financial giants employ 10 trillion customer service reps in Malaysia, Philippines and India. I wonder if the labor deficit is greater than the goods deficit even after all the tariff adjustments. I don't know Hans, but it's an interesting question that you bring up here.

adjustments. Don't know Hans, but it's an interesting question that you bring up here. And Bill, I disagree with almost every story on this page. It's over on the Daily Courier, but the first one, why is the grassroots just now stepping up for the homeless? Taxes on boozes and smokers and Oregon is some of the highest sin taxes in the 50 states. Joe County Food Bank is nothing but a business. They go to the food banks day after day and never have to use dollars on food. They're just using the system week after week, month after month, year after year. They need to be tracked and only allowed once a month to get for the banks. Joe County has 13 food banks. That's a lot of duplication. Just check out the cars in the parking lot on giveaway days.

And not a bit of flavored nicotine difference. All of that comes with the pot issues and different flavors and gummies, etc. All right fair enough She also says Betty also says community gardens are a joke. They are Community gardens, how can you say that? It's a part of sustainable development Betty. I'm being sarcastic. All right, the email bill at Bill Meyer show comm We'll talk more more open phone time on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Siskiyou Pump Service and Rotary Drilling Company takes pride in ensuring their customers get fresh, clean water from field.