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Episode Date: March 30, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Dr. Dilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law, rejoins the program every Monday. We'd like to talk about some local history and so much more. Doc, how you doing? Great to have you on. Doing great great good. Good to be with you.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Hey, I don't know if you heard this. This story just broke this. morning and I'll run this by you. Do you know who Michael Rousseau is? You ever heard of him? No, I'm going to listen. Yeah, he's the CEO, or I should dare say he was the CEO of Air Canada, and he's stepping down now because, you know, they had that plane crash at LaGuardia last week in which the, you know, the truck ended up being on the runway.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Remember that story? Yeah, sure do. Yeah, the pilots ended up dying in that one. but what happened is that they're firing. He's decided to step down because I guess he's been under a lot of pressure. And what he did, it's not about how he ran it because it wasn't their fault. We know it wasn't his, it wasn't Air Canada's fault. But he gave the condolence message in English.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's why he's quitting. I know you, I knew you would say that. But remember, this is. air Canada and it's bilingual because it's French. And let me tell you, the Frenchies get hot and bothered over in Quebec when you're not speaking in French. And he said, hey, you know, it's not my main language. And you do deliver, they do deliver service in both French and in English. But in other words, he's quitting over that. So that's a new one. That's a new one. Yeah, and you know, when you think about it with all the problems that are happening with airlines,
Starting point is 00:02:04 especially in terms of liberal Canada and that virus that's going around the world for the radical socialist. And this is what they worry about. This is what they get upset about over at Air Canada. Amazing. Yeah, actually, on that general issue, what really stands out is this – communist virus that's around. We certainly saw yesterday having to do on Easter, which was usually a religious day, but here it was one of, you know, the funding that came in that you could see in these radical socialists who are going ahead and demonstrating with their F-Trump signs in Ashland. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to ask you, what was it like in Ashland? I did not go to No Kings. I was at the
Starting point is 00:02:55 Patriots Conference in Josephine County on Saturday. And by the time it came home, I guess I was avoiding or I just ended up driving by. I didn't see a whole lot of activity. Some people, you know, you read the newspapers, and the papers were talking about thousands upon thousands lining the streets of Medford. And maybe there were. I just did not see them. But, of course, estimating crowds is quite an art, really.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And, you know, trying to figure out what the truth is, sometimes a little tough. What do you think? Well, I think you're being kind because, again, the problem is with liberal-oriented media, their great fear is to have themselves at their office having to have protesters there about their being, you know, too accurate with the news. What was interesting to me in terms of Ashland in the No King's Rally was the fact that you had, you know, kids. You saw the normal. You saw the usual Fem Nazis that are out that you always see who were demonstrating against the Vietnam War. And now finally they have meaning by demonstrating today. But the key thing that hit me, though, my friend, was the fact that it was set for 9.30 yesterday morning in Ashland. Now, was it yesterday morning or Saturday morning? Yes, no, it was yesterday. And what happened then, more important, oh, actually, you're right, it was, it was Saturday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I've got it in the two days, but what's more important, though, was the fact it was designed to go ahead and for the demonstrators with their signs that came in from the radicals, the Sors, Madati, you know, Iran, China. Yeah, how much of it looked professionally organized, I guess is the question I would have? Totally, totally. But what happened, though, Bill, was that after this is over, they race to go into Medford. And you could see the California, the same protesters. Oh, so it wasn't like Ashland protested in Ashland, and then Medford protesters protested in Medford. They went from place to place, you're saying? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. The way that this is organized, especially by this virus that's affecting throughout our state in the country, which is radical socialism, is that you can see where this breaking story by Fox and by others that some 500 nonprofits coordinated on this, primarily from Soros, Obama and the other radical socialists, that came
Starting point is 00:05:46 in for this organization. And what really gets me is the fact that here we have a war with Iran, and you know that Iran and China and North Korea is not only supplying weapons to Iran, they're going ahead and actually affecting our politics by coming in and funding these demonstrators that are all throughout, especially where you see the fraud that's happened. So the Democratic party is probably a third infected by radical socialists, and it's a fight against communism. Yeah, interesting. I was reading that article that you were referencing, at least I think that's what you were referencing on Fox Digital, 500 groups with $3 billion in revenues behind the No King's
Starting point is 00:06:34 protests and communist call for revolution. And this is according to a copy of the permit for the flagship march in St. Paul, Indivisible. Of course, we know about Indivisible, the well-healed. democratic policy or political advocacy organization funded by Soros, the lead coordinator for the protest. That's nothing unusual. I think we figured that was going to be the case.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Fox Digital also identifying key participation by a network of radical socialists and commie organizations funded by Neville Roy Singham, an American tech tycoon, about Kami living in China. Boy, I wasn't really aware of much of him. I guess we should be talking more about that guy over time. But you see, you see the thing that's happening. though, is that here we have these people marching to the bullhorn of these radical socialists like Lemmings. And the whole thing is, is the fact that here we have a war with Iran.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And finally, you know, for two years, you and I have been talking about this virus, the civil war that we've seen. And now finally people are waking up and saying, oh, gee whiz, it does make sense that North Korea would pony up money to go into the U.S. And like Russia, because they did it. Okay, yeah. And I understand that. I understand that there's nefarious actors involved here. The thing is, though, is that I can't exactly say that the country is unitedly in favor of this, even along the right side of things when it comes to President Trump's actions.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah, and that's true, and the reason is that most of the people that are in favor of Trump's policies are working for a living and paying taxes. Fair enough. And also the other distinction is that they're citizens. Well, yeah, there we go. Yeah, yeah, they really are. I mean, this whole thing doesn't pass the smell test when we take a look at what happened with the Somalis and, you know, the billions of dollars of fraud, especially in California. So the other thing that really gets me is that when you look at the various legal decisions that have come down, you see where these democratic, quote, unquote, fundraisers who are now district court judges,
Starting point is 00:08:56 you can see where they are just going along, even regardless of what the Supreme Court states, because the fact that they don't want to have these far-left demonstrators, like back in Bolshevah, Russia. Yeah, they don't want them going after them either. I get that. Now, let me ask you about those Supreme Court cases this week because this week is the birthright citizenship case. That's the one, the 14th Amendment. What does the 14th Amendment really mean?
Starting point is 00:09:27 And what do you think are the odds that this finally gets reinterpreted the proper way that, you know, you have to be truly under the jurisdiction of the United States, not just present in the United States, to be, you know, be given birth and then you're assigned a citizen. What do you think are the odds of that, you think? You're betting that. I think they're better than 50-50 that they will uphold Trump's executive decision. The problem is that, like with the decision on abortion, the question's going to be
Starting point is 00:10:02 the conservative justices as to whether or not they want to have these far-left radical socialists demonstrating in front of their house like was allowed. Yeah, will they get squishy? Yeah, well, they get squishy and frightened. And I want to understand them being frightening, given the current political situation. Let me ask you that. Let me redirect the question, counselor. But, Bill, very quickly, the key thing was there is an Obama appointee who upheld
Starting point is 00:10:32 the executive decision of Trump on birthright citizenship that first went ahead. went that way, which is very, very curious. But we have a situation where the civil war that is going on in this country is seen legally in demonstrations and also connecting the dots. Because this is not against Trump. This is against this country. They attacked and burned dealerships of Tesla. And then they change and they go ahead against ICE.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And then they go ahead and change against whatever. But this is for against the country. Well, this is for the marbles, as far as I'm concerned, this 14th Amendment decision. Now, I would imagine, if I understand the way the Supreme Court would likely work, I doubt they were going to be that they would be coming out and saying, yes, President Trump's executive order is valid, and that anyone who has ever been an anchor baby or a dreamer or whatever it is, you're not a citizen anymore.
Starting point is 00:11:37 They're probably not going to say that. I would imagine it would be moving forward? Would you see that as being the way they would actually prescribe the remedy, so to speak, or not? Oh, yeah, especially with John Roberts, because Roberts was even going against saying that states have the right to regulate the extent of abortion rights in terms of pregnancies and was trying to keep the others who, let's say, were conservative. So I would just say, though, don't look for the anchor babies being kicked out over time, right? Well, that's what I would feel, too, and it's going to be interesting to see what happens on that. But you see, for example, one of the things that really stood out to me was the fact that there was a very big decision that you and I discussed, which was the mirror-belly decision, which was the fact that parents, not administrators, have parental rights. rights having to do with knowledge of transgender approaches by their kids that parents have the
Starting point is 00:12:47 right to know about that and not to have the administrators do it, which is certainly very good collectivism. But the key thing, and it's finally that people have got to say this is what is happening. But on that particular one, even with Mirabelli, you had a different. state boards that are saying, oh, well, that doesn't apply to us. I know. Because they'll have, you see, the problem that makes me very, well, I guess the best word is disgusted with the way the law is, it never was pure.
Starting point is 00:13:24 It was always having to do with the facts. But now you have with a basically uninformed Democrat that as long as they say something that gives them the right to demonstrate that, no, this is not the law, even though they're totally wrong and the Supreme Court has ruled on it. My concern, though, doctor, and this is what I've been concerned about most, though, is that we have Democratic judges that, in essence, flout and rule against, and just rule as if the Supreme Court hasn't actually ruled on an issue. Oh, even when they have ruled.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Now, some of them just are really inept. And they were appointed for political reasons. That's really is. Well, how much of this is just a push for judicial anarchy? Oh, I think it's already been there. Yeah. I mean, we've seen it. And actually, the changes in the law in Oregon, California, on the Pacific coast, over the last three days, three decades, three decades, has been absolutely unbelievable to see the changes that it made. I mean, if you took negligence, it used to be the fact that if a person was drunk driving a car, that that would prohibit their ability of being compensated for the damages.
Starting point is 00:14:45 But then you had the California Supreme Court that went ahead said, oh, no, we're going to balance. Yeah, exactly. And then once you go into balance, then you have various decisions that come down with what the jury can find. Yeah, exactly. And we've seen that shading and going for the deep pockets, you know, those kind of. conversations. All right. Hey, Doc, I wanted to pick that up then on the other side here, just a moment, because, you know, we look at this product liability lawsuit, and that's really what last week's social media lawsuits were about, right? It's kind of a product liability.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Isn't that fair enough? The way to describe it? It was brilliant. Okay, well, let me tell you, I want to pick your brain on that in just a minute, okay? We'll be right back. Sure. Dr. Dennis Power is retired professor of business law and where past meets present. And does these transmissions, they've spent... This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Gubernatorial candidate, Ed Deal, will join me tomorrow morning. 8-10.
Starting point is 00:15:47 You'll talk about the issues. But a few weeks since I talked to him, and, of course, it's been very successful in that anti-tax. The anti-tax deal, even if it did get moved to May, at least we get a chance to vote on it. I don't know. I still have yet to see all the language. Maybe that'll be out. Maybe the ballot will be just fine. It'll probably go down in flames, I would hope so, right, Doc?
Starting point is 00:16:08 Welcome back, Dr. Dennis Powers. Good to have you on. Thanks. Thanks. You know, I'll tell you what's interesting is that on, let's say, product liability. Oh, yeah, we were talking about this because that's essentially what last week's Facebook, the meta ad, or the meta lawsuit was all about, product liability. case, Facebook, right? And the reason is, is that the product liability is really where you can have a product, but if it cause injury, it's almost, it's strict liability, which means
Starting point is 00:16:42 you've got to just prove this. You don't have to really prove, quote-unquote, negligence per se, but it's designed like the Pinto with the gas tanks in the back. You have a defect in the manufacturing, which is like tires, and they blow up at high speed. But here, it was really brilliant, because, you see, rather than having the fact that this copyright 230 that's in this IP law. Yeah, the Section 230 of the Communications Act. Yeah. Right. Is the fact that, and the Supreme Court held, that IPs cannot be held liable for copyright infringement by its subscribers. So what do the trial attorneys come in with is say that we have a situation, which is the fact that Meta designs a platform and fails to communicate the fact that it is
Starting point is 00:17:40 one that is very risky for kids. And so they came in and they got a $375 million product liability decision against meta, you know, in terms of its platforms with kids being on that and addicted to those platforms, but it's in state court. So this has gotten a lot of news, but my friend, the key thing is that this is the state level, and these are going to be appeals, and they're going to appeal it forever as best they can. So do you think it'll finally get ground down to the point where ain't nothing? Ain't nothing by the time they're done? I think they're going to uphold it, but it's going to be a question where they're going to try to put it into the courts past the Trump term, and then go ahead and see what happens with the far-left Democrats, the radical socialists. Oh, so they may get a friendlier legal climate for going after Mattow.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Okay. Absolutely. That could be. Well, the part that I didn't understand about this, though, is why do we assume that parents are powerless of keeping their kids off this stuff? It's just impossible to do this? Because, you know, I mean, if you're going to give your kid a smartphone at the age of five, and then they're going to be on social media as they get a little bit older or something, it's like what part of a parental collapse hasn't been occurring in this, too?
Starting point is 00:19:14 That's a good argument because that was certainly the arguments that was in the state court, which had to do with the fact that the parents will, for example, to keep their kids quiet, will give them and say, why don't you go ahead and play with your computer? Well, yeah, it's just like how my mom and dad, they gave me cigarettes when I needed, you know, quieting. Here you go, kid. I try to go for, you know, Jee Fruz, but it never worked. I was told to go ahead and set up a gardening practice and buy it myself. But you see, the thing is, is that this whole idea that social platforms are maliciously addictive,
Starting point is 00:19:58 well, the kids are not just on meta. And so this was, you know, the examples, when you, I have seen good trial lawyers, and they're beautiful in action. They could, you know, they are performers. They convince a jury of what they're saying. It's almost hypnotic. Okay, so you saw what was going on there. You agree that's really what ended up swaying.
Starting point is 00:20:25 This was really good attorneys then that really rolled this. And you can see the difference in the damages because a big deal has been made in the California case, which was also in state court, which is a 3 million actual damage verdict, doubled for punitive damages, the 6 million. But that was really only one and a couple of plaintiffs, a couple of kids who are talking about being depressed and being attacked by others on these platforms that Mata had. And the argument of saying, well, wait a minute, parents have responsibility.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Wait a minute. But there's a lot of other platforms. Did that just get ignored? Did that just get ignored? Did that part about parental responsibility just kind of get ignored out of this? They would probably say yes, but it's addictive. It's kind of like these. So are Doritos.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I know. But on the other hand, we've all seen how addictive kids can be and adults on their cell phone. So there's a good argument there on this technological orientation that there are other factors in there. But there's no question that I think, and of course the expert attorneys are saying that META and these others will go ahead and do some protections on there as to what age of kids can come in, but they're going to do it in a very delicate way over time. This is not going to earth-shattering have quick decisions being made. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:11 We'll see where this ends up going, Doctor. Yeah. All right. It'll be fun to watch in many ways by you and with your listeners. Yeah. My concern, though, is that we just look at the smartphone and the kid is just, well, it's inevitable. You can't live this way without the smartphone, except that, the people who run the social media networks, like the Zuckerbergs, they don't let their own kids on it.
Starting point is 00:22:37 They keep their own kids away from this sort of stuff. So I guess there's a point to be made that, yeah, the stuff is poison, but they're smart enough and they keep their own kids off. And these are very good arguments. And I just remember back to when I was first studying the law, my friend, and I remember even during law school, to go over. to the courts and to watch some of these trial attorneys and the way that they just had the confidence of going in. And I remember one case, Bill, where a very good attorney wasn't even prepared and would say to the jury, well, don't listen to them. They don't know what they're talking about. Listen to what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:23:24 He hadn't even read the briefs, and he won. Yeah, amazing. Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law. All right, we're going to end on the pallet cleanser in this particular case, the history. We kind of reversed the order that we normally did. We kind of stumbled into the legal talk at first. I was looking at the Air Canada case and all these other things going on. Sure.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Sid DeBore, Lithium Motors. Where this old story? Tell us about it. It's back in 1946 this old got going back in the day, right? Yeah, and what's interesting here is that we've done also Steve Rowe and Chuck. Butler. That's right. And they're all were in about the same time. And so the question is, is, how did all these, these three individuals do what they did and to contribute to Southern Oregon as strong as they did? And the reason is, is that, first of all, Steve Rowe, when he came in,
Starting point is 00:24:20 was going ahead as an Eagle Scout and also, you know, in his BBA and accounting, has, they bought a dealership that was really a general motors dealership being Cadillac, Buick, and GMC. But that was Josephine County. Chuck Butler comes along, and he buys a small Ford dealership in town, Pitchford Sales. But then he decides that he's going to go into Accura and. Yeah, Kia, Hyundai, all that stuff, yeah. And he goes into the imports and goes into different trucks. Now, Sid, though, it started off, Lithia started off it as Chrysler-Plymouth Dodge, right?
Starting point is 00:25:11 You know, absolutely right. And then by his dad, Walt, and Walt tragically died. This was an Ashland when he was struck by a car in 1968, and Sid, who was really heading on, an accounting collegiate background at Stanford took over running the operation, a key thing there. He purchased it from his mother for $60,000. Oh, yeah. So you're telling me, Sid DeBore bought the dealership, $60,000, 1968. That had to be one of the best investments anyone ever made in Southern Oregon.
Starting point is 00:25:49 One of the best deals ever, wouldn't you say? Well, I would, Bill. And the other thing was, is he did several things. a brilliant, a brilliant entrepreneur. He brought in Dick Hyman, who has contributed big dollars to Asante and cancer. But Hyman joined Lithia as district manager. He had been district manager for Chrysler, but he came in as the district manager. So by the 1990s, they had five stores in 19th,
Starting point is 00:26:25 franchises, what meant that dealers could sell more than one at the same location, more than one brand. What is interesting here, Bill, was Sid DeBore thought about different types of strategies. He would buy car dealerships in rural communities and smaller towns that he was familiar with. And then he went to Wall Street in 1996, and this is the key thing he did. And what a risk that he and Dick Hyman did was to convince an investment banking firm to underwrite a public offering in 1996, where the stock began trading at $11 per share. Yeah, they raised $25 million, I guess, in that initial offering at that point. Yeah. Good point.
Starting point is 00:27:12 And what happens is using that money. He goes ahead, and they buy dealerships when. problems were occurring. And they had 30 dealerships then by 1998, two years later, 40, about 2006. Where are we right now? Car dealer. Yeah, where are we right now? They are, this is incredible. Right now they have annual revenues of nearly $38 billion with earnings of $825,45 million, $455,000. $455,000. stores, including England and Canada. But the thing, too, was that all three of them went ahead and brought in the community, certainly a good way of selling cars, but on the other hand,
Starting point is 00:28:09 of real volunteer service with Asante, with various large, different nonprofits. But the key thing here when I thought about it, and Bill, I was very lucky to have been able to work with all three of them in different ways in nonprofits, was that Sid just had too much time that he had to spend in his business. So his wife, Karen DeBoer, was on these nonprofits and was very good with what she was doing. And Sid and Karen DeBore through their foundation have put in millions into this region. Chuck Butler did the same thing, but I've always wondered, although they were in different areas, different strategies, you really kind of wonder as information spread as how all three of them contributed and all three of them helped our community, but in the same overall field and so much for climate change.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah, and very different styles, too, for that matter. You know, it would be fascinating, you know, to think back to it. You know, the DeBore's, of course, Sid DeBore did this big offering back, what, 1996 in that neighborhood. That was the same era that was consolidating radio broadcast back in that time. Oh, really? Yeah, except you're right. Except I would dare say that his consolidation of automobile franchise is much more successful than the radio broadcast franchises that expanded and then they kind of got over their skis
Starting point is 00:29:51 and sold off a lot of their stuff. That hasn't happened with Lithia, has it? That's a very good point to bring up because the Boers, let's say Sid and Dick Heimann were able to bring in these faraway located dealerships into their way of doing business, service-oriented, strong accounting, centralized marketing, you know, these types of things. And what really makes me very proud about our area are the way that people have been able to come here, and they really stood out. And what you were just saying in terms of – also congratulations, 25 years for being the head of KMED.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Yeah, yeah. But what I was just saying is that I just found it interesting, though, that that was just the big go, go, go time. And, yeah, radio companies expanded. And so did it. And yep, and I've been here 25 years standing tall. Well, I'm not tall. I'm not tall. I never will be tall.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But I am proud. All and outrageous. Hey, Doc, thanks so much. I appreciate the talk, as always. I'm sure there will be more legal news to talk about, especially with the Supreme Court arguments this week. Let's do that on Monday of next week, okay? All right? I will do it, and thanks for always all your courtesies.
Starting point is 00:31:14 All right, always a pleasure. This is the Bill Myers Show on KMED. Here's a career that true. The Bill Myers Show is on. News Talk 1063, KMED. 852, some emails of the day. Sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson in Central Point Family Dentistry. Central Point Family Dentistry.com.
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Starting point is 00:32:28 into my work friday said 10 000 sounds like a slight exaggeration is that what you're implying here Sarah, appreciate the call. Sherry also kicking in here. Yeah, we took part in the No King's demonstration. We drove through Ashland and my husband's 2003 Chevy truck. He acted out with patriotic stickers and flags with Black Sabbath playing at maximum volume. We received numerous, angry, and disapproving looks. It was fantastic. It's Sherry and Jimmy from Ashland. Okay. So you decided to just dive in there, right? Granny writes me about the other response on Greg and no Kings. I've not demanded services of government,
Starting point is 00:33:11 just leave me alone. But as far as no Kings, a man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. Why argue with the insane? By the way, I bought a pocket radio so I can listen to Bill Meyer while doing morning farm chores.
Starting point is 00:33:23 And when the news plays up Chuck Schumer, I'm tempted to throw the radio in the stock tank. Granny, you make me crack up, all right? Patrick saying, Bill, it used to be that you knew where people stood politically when they identified as either Democrat or Republican. Democrats wanted to keep people as slaves. Republicans wanted to free-colored people from slavery back in the days the term, right? Now the definitions are not so clear. There are rhinos, dynos, and conservative, liberal, independent, Marxist, communist, green, Republican Democrat. Basically, the Democrats have become a new creature that should be properly identified as Islamocrat because there seems to be no substantive difference, rather, between the tenets of Islam. and the goals of the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Republican Party is suffering an identity crisis too, especially in our elected officials. All right, Patrick, appreciate it. The email bill of Bill Meyershow.com. We will continue, and we'll squeeze a call or two in here. Just a moment on the Bill Meyer show. Drinks Paints and Supply, we know your color. Minor Dave, you wanted to weigh in here briefly on Gene called from Wilderville last hour.
Starting point is 00:34:32 It said she saw that just bizarre orb floating across her, yard in the woods and then over. See, she's in the area where from the Klamas Falls Air Force Base where they, well, either experiment or try using it. You should see here. When I lived at my mining claim, I could see them and same from here where I live now. So that orb that you say, or that Jean said she saw in the woods and then going over her. It's a drone.
Starting point is 00:35:05 You said it's a drone. Okay. Interesting. They got them by the thousands, and they can actually, they have actual combat fighters that are drones. They're AI run by a pilot in another aircraft or on the ground, wherever. Okay, well, I'm glad they didn't drone her. No, no, that's the flight path to the coast. Well, she said it was in her backyard, not in the sky.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Well, no, but they can go any altitude. Okay. All right. All right, that's one theory then, Gene from Wilderville. All right? Thanks, Dave. Holly's here. Hey, Holly, hey, Holly.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Great seeing you Saturday at the Patriots Conference. Bill, I can't thank you enough. Your presentation was excellent. We've got it recorded, and we're going to be making it available to people who missed it. I don't think people get out of bed that early. We had a pretty good crowd in the afternoon, but the morning was a little quiet.
Starting point is 00:36:04 than I would have preferred. Oh, well, it's just the way that goes, but I'm glad you recorded it that way. It can, but, you know, it's just like my morning show, right? I get up mornings, and then, you know, then people wake up at eight. That's the way it works, you know? But I thought a presentation about trusted media sources was very valuable,
Starting point is 00:36:21 and we got to get that out there so people can know, because everybody is, you know, feeling, well, I think we're all feeling dubious about the news that's out there, except for your program, which we generally love. But it's kind of like we're over. overwhelmed with opportunities. It's an embarrassment of riches, but they're not all worth the same. I only have about 20 seconds left, though, but did David Medina show? Did he show? Because I didn't get a chance to talk to him Friday.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Oh, very good. And David, you know, David Medina is a great young man. He's got a wonderful future. He doesn't want to take any money from any political sources. He's not playing. Yeah, okay. Well, I'm just out of time here, but we'll talk more about it tomorrow. But thank you, Holly. At Two Dogs Fabricating, we're woofing about our new Iron Bull dump trailers with new features, including enhanced sidearmored 10-gate steel sides with seven-gate steel floors, three-way spreader gates, and retractable tarp systems. Choose from bumper pull or good...

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