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There is a person who I really don't know who it was. They kind of go under another email that doesn't really say their name and whatever. And I thought it was kind of interesting. They said, Bill, you need to be a man of God when it comes to the homeless situation. You need to stop bashing the homeless. I'm not bashing the homeless at all. I've never been bashing the homeless. What I am bashing has been our response to it. And it seems that we're really coming to a head here in southern Oregon, especially with the top local story, which ended up breaking Friday afternoon. And Vicki Aldous of the Daily

Courier did a great job of covering it on Friday, judge granting a preliminary injunction Friday afternoon in the homeless lawsuit filed against the city who grants pass, but has given city council members a way out if they will offer more space for homeless camping and provide paved surfaces that are accessible for disabled people. In the meantime, the injunction blocks the city. The city is not allowed to enforce any regulations against the homeless camping on public property, including most of the parks.

However, the city will enforce rules against camping in Riverside Park alongside the Rogue River and Reinhardt Volunteer Park which has a bunch of sports fields on it though and this was injunction was was granted by Josephine County Circuit Judge Sarah McLaughlin so Sarah McLaughlin more or less Judge McLaughlin saying that we have to we meaning the City of Grants Pass, has to come up with 150 campsites before you are essentially complying with the law, I guess. So you have to have 150. You are forced to do this.

Taxpayers are forced to do this, up from the current capacity of about 90-tens. And I don't know... Now, of course, Judge McLaughlin is likely just reading the law coming out of the state of Oregon. Remember, the state of Oregon ended up essentially codifying what ended up happening in that Boise decision, which the Supreme Court ended up kicking out. So, you know, you can always count on the Oregon State Legislature to do the wrong thing to actually make things worse when it comes right down to it. And I was thinking about this, you know, this emailer who goes unidentified, has a business name on it, and said, be a man of God about homelessness. The way to be godly is to increase the amount of permitted drug addiction and alcoholism

and despair being permitted within the city of Grants Pass. Isn't that really what we're talking about? Maybe the judge had no choice. I don't know. I'm not a judge. I'm not the district court judge, so I can't really say for sure. But it's kind of weird when you look at what this situation is doing in in Grants Pass right now, and you look at

judges all over the the rest of the country too. I'm starting to wonder would it be a good idea if we just started electing judges to be our, I mean given the current situation that we have with the various laws that we have, should we be electing judges to run counties and cities and just to forget about city councils? Should we forget about the governors and county commissioners? Should we just, governors and county commissioners, should we just... I mean, this is a serious question. This is a serious question because if local communities are not allowed to determine how they run their local

communities and everything has to be run through a judge, I don't know, maybe the judge's decision is correct. According to the law, well, gosh, should we just bother, not even bother with presidents? Should we not bother with county commissioners or city councils or county commissioners? Should we just take everything that has a problem and just take it up to the judiciary and have the judiciary

run everything. I'm not being sarcastic because perhaps it would just be more or less what we're dealing with right now. Let's just get with it and then go about hiring wise people. You know, I guess I could almost handle that more if you didn't have a lot of the state judges being appointed by liberal governors in this particular case, if we actually had elected judges. I don't know, maybe that would be better. Do you that there is something to be said about that? So we have to have not capacity for 90, but we have to have at least 150 drunk, addicted, derelict tents in Grants Pass in order to make this happen. What do you think? We can talk about that this morning if you want, 7705633770KMED.

I was thinking about how this person was saying, Bill, you need to be a man of God about this. Well, that person doesn't really know what's inside my heart. I was reading a story that said the Trump administration, the Donald Trump, that President Trump actually wants to start approaching homelessness from a completely different point of view. Because what we're dealing with right now, what we're dealing with right now is the leftover of Barack Obama's Housing First policy. And what Housing First policy did is that we're not going to go to the root of your problem homeless person. We're just going to get you a house.

We have to get you a house and we have to get you a house first and that's all that matters. It doesn't matter if your addiction and your mental illness and all of these other things that you have make it next to impossible for you to responsibly live in this house that is to be given to you, whether it is a low barrier shelter or whether it is a really nice tent over by Riverside Park or by the Greenway, you know, that sort of thing. It was always about getting housing first.

All we need is affordable housing and we do that first and foremost. We just get you a house, maybe we just give you a free house and then everything's okay. Now the problem is you're still a mentally ill, drunk, alcoholic. Just kind of combining the majority of the maladies that are going in there. I'm not making fun of it. President Trump wants to reverse that. What President Trump is proposing would be essentially taking those who are homeless and putting them into large camps.

That's what he was talking about, what the story was talking about. I've got to find that story, I have it around here someplace. But he actually wants to put them into camps and you are forced treated. If you are mentally ill you will be forcibly treated. If you are an alcoholic you will be forcibly treated. If you are a drug addict, you will be forced to take drug treatment. Would you agree with that? Which of the two would ultimately be more kind? You know, you look at Judge McLaughlin with the ordering of 150 campsites have to be available

or else grants pass as a very, very, very, very bad illegal place according to the lawsuit, you know, the injunction that was passed or that was ordered on Friday. Or you have President Trump that says, we're not going to worry about housing first. We're going to say, okay, you go into the camp. If you are drug addicted, you are alcoholic, you are mentally ill, you will be forcibly treated. Which might ultimately...

which of those two kind of approaches? Judge McLaughlin ordering this for the city of Grants Pass, probably within the law, and likely within the law that was passed by the state legislature because the state legislature controlled by Democrats is all over Housing First. Well, we've had Housing First now for a number of years, and it doesn't appear to be working. If anything, we seem to be minting more homelessness, more despair, more drug addiction, more mentally ill people, more alcoholics aren't able to take care of themselves. And you have President Trump that says people with these kind of problems should be forcibly

medicated or should be put into a camp. You're not able to take care of yourself. Okay, we'll give you housing first, but you must get treatment. You must get treatment. In many ways, it's kind of like a forcing version, without the Jesus side of it, of the gospel rescue mission, isn't it? Hey, you're allowed to stay here. We'll help you get back on your feet. But you gotta work on your addictions. You gotta work on yourself. Which of the two approaches might be ultimately kinder in the long run?

Housing first and just, you know, forcing cities to have 150 derelict housing shelters available for people who are drug addicted and alcoholic. I don't know that's going to cause any solution for the problem other than just keeping them off the streets or keeping them from freezing to death for the time being, but it doesn't affect the long-term prognosis of what's going on. And when you talk about forced treatment, well, you know, that kind of sounds bad too, right? OK, so do you want a gunshot wound to the gut or a gunshot wound to the head? I don't know. You know, it's kind of... The idea of this person criticizing my bashing of the homelessness supposedly, and then be a man of God...

What do you think God would want? Do you think God wants us to keep people in misery and drug addiction and alcoholism and mental illness? I don't know. I'm just raising an issue, and after having had that critique email, and even the ones that people don't like me that they're critiquing me, I think about it. I think about what they say. I don't ignore it. The one thing I do know is that the way Oregon law is set up to just codify what happened with Boise and just housing first, housing first, housing first, and Judge McLaughlin is probably reacting to what current law is. And so I don't want to bash the judge. I really don't. May have no choice. But it kind of goes into, well, what do we do about this?

And gosh, maybe we should just have judges elected in positions to do everything for us these days. It's starting to feel that way, but that's just me. It's 22 minutes after 6. 770-5633. We'd be happy to take your calls or comments on that. It's something I've been thinking about this weekend for sure. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Morning, Bill. Tom here. Hey, Tom. How are you doing? All right. You know, I still see homelessness as a symptom. I would submit that the guy that's mentally ill and drug addicted on the street is a lot less dangerous than the people that are putting us in perpetual war. There's no way that you can cure homelessness or anything like that while we have these mentally ill,

ego, power-addicted leaders running the country that put us in perpetual war. We're spending billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars for war. Well, I could agree with you on this. I think you're conflating two things that aren't as related as you think. I disagree with that. Okay, I know. related as you think. I disagree with that. Okay, I know. I know you do. I disagree with you on this.

And I don't disagree with you on very much. The perpetual war and the warfare welfare state at the 60,000 foot level is certainly a root cause of it. It's sick. is certainly a root cause of it. But the thing is though, war in Ukraine or the warfare state is not causing someone like that fellow who was on the KOBI story the other day, who had to be held up by a couple of fellow homeless people. This was a few weeks ago, is being held up for the cameras at 7 o'clock to at 7 o'clock in the morning in order to get a sympathetic state out there but you know at some point you have to start doing something other than continuing to drunk or or take drugs. Would you agree with me on that much?

That's not directly connected with them wanting to go in Ukraine or bomber drugs. Would you agree with me on that much? That's not directly connected with them wanting to go in Ukraine or bomb a ring. You can let me speak, Bill. Okay, I think, yes, they're mentally ill and I think our society is mentally ill what it's doing and so forth. And the people who keep voting, all these insane people, we the voters are guilty for voting. You know, I talked a lot of Democrats. They seem to be just fine with a perpetual war and Biden's war in Ukraine sending billions of dollars. And they were not okay with Bush's perpetual war too, okay? So yeah and then and of course Republicans were okay with perpetual war under Bush for the most part and then we

didn't like it under Biden, okay? Yes, exactly. Exactly. I'd say we have to, if you want to know where the homeless problem is, look in the mirror. How do you connect people who are taking drugs and alcoholism, that we've always had a certain amount of this? How do you connect the two though? Well, I'll ask another question that kind of answers that. And that's how much is our so-called educational system contributor to homelessness and the mental illness that people experience. They just basically robbing people of self-will and self-direction and so

forth. We never learn how to be our own person, and that situation creates mental illness. I just see the, you know, if a person's sick and they take their temperature, that's an indication there's a problem. And I'm looking upon all this mental illness and drug addiction and so forth as like a thermometer for the whole, our whole society. And I see the interaction of the two. I mean, we have Trump now. I see Trump has really gone to town, and I'm looking at something, 865 airstrikes in 24 hours in Yemen. If Trump turns out to be another warmongering president, he seems to be captured by the Israel lobby. And that's a very strong concern for me if he doesn't really get in there and stop some of this insane warmongering that's been going on for decades, decades.

It's killing our society. So you would go that even, you would connect then with the warfare, welfare, Middle East wars, whatever it might be, the entire concept of war is peace and we're protecting you from terror, you know, whatever the case might be, ultimately is even driving drug addiction and alcoholism though? Yes it did because it leaves the society, it's robbing us of resources to deal with any problems we have here. Just look at average folks. Okay, well now we are certainly unmoored from reality in that respect.

I will give you that. Okay, we're not moored by any tether to reality at this point. Okay, all right, I'll give you a little bit of that. But, at some point, at some point though, there is an individual responsibility on actions that they take. At some point. Of course there is, Bill. But, you know... Because you're not there, I'm not there, most people are not there. not there, most people are not there. You know, most people right now are struggling in their day-to-day lives just to make ends meet and so forth because as a society we're choosing to spend all our time, money and energy blowing up half

the planet. We don't know what our reality would be if we weren't so busy trying to kill everybody on the planet. Okay, all right. Let's take that out because killing everybody else on the planet does not affect Judge McLaughlin with City of Grants Pass right now, not directly, okay? Not directly right now. President Trump... I would question that. Okay, all right. President Trump offered over the weekend, I was reading that his plan for homelessness would get

rid of the official housing first model and that if you are drug addicted, an alcoholic, mentally ill, that you're in a camp and that you must take treatment. Do you agree with that or not? Short-term, there's something to be said for that. I'll look at it. But again, we're still going to be sick if our society is spending all its resources on killing people. Okay, well, the thing is you're not going to fix that right now, Tom. We're talking about a homeless camp in southern Oregon, homeless encampments in southern Oregon. You're not going to fix the warfare welfare state right now.

It doesn't even sound like you're going to fix it in the Trump administration. That seems to be on autopilot right now. I'm disappointed. If he doesn't, I'm giving them some slack, but if we don't have some peace in Ukraine and the Middle East in a pretty short time. I'll get him outside of a year. If that's not by the end of the year, I'm not going to be supporting him. I'm trying not to focus outward on the national all the time because at some point, in spite of what is going on in the greater world situation, and with the deep state and Trump versus the deep state, and the news media reporting on Trump versus

the deep state and the deep state versus Trump, and the warfare, welfare state and all the rest of it, we still have to take care of business here somehow. And that's why I don't necessarily want to say, well, the root of it is the warfare welfare state, and until we get rid of that, people are just going to be drunk and drug addicted and mentally ill at 150 tent sites in the city of Grants Pass. I think we've got to do better than that, don't you? Yes, we do, but look at it, Bill. Look what's going on in Ashland City Council and all these different councils and so forth,

they're all consumed by quote climate change. It's mental illness that's been... Okay, so maybe that's the bottom line. Mentally ill leaders, mentally ill populace, we're all just kind of suffering a low level of mental illness. Okay, all right. Maybe you're right about that. Let's just hope that we all don't have to be forced and turned into a mental health treatment camp, alright? Well, the trouble with that too is you're going to have some damn judge deciding who's mentally ill and who isn't. Exactly. That was one thing that of course always gives me pause when they say, well, you know, you're

mentally ill, you're alcoholic, you're in the camp, so you need to take some treatment. Okay. Point well taken. Thank you very much. Okay? I appreciate that. All right. At 630. The Oregon court has deemed measure 114 constitutional.

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Way too long since we last talked here. We were talking about the injunction against the City of Grants Pass was put out Friday afternoon. I got to tell you, well it all comes down to legislating from the bench, Bill. And look at the piece that I sent you on this. It just angers me to see what this comes from because it's literally one of how we've discussed before. The appointments are what hang in the balance instead of elections.

There was an article that I sent you, and it's easier to read the quote, but all of these things are an example of pushing an ideology that I don't know if it even legally exists. It's an interpretation. It's something that we all have to take into consideration. Could you give me some specificity to that? I don't have a lot of time right now. I'm running a little bit behind. I'm going to just read, Bill, the real specific is to read what this is. And it's a quotation, this is right out of it. Sarah E. McLaughlin is a prosecutor from Josephine County District Attorney's Office.

She has previously worked at the Oregon Commission for the Blind. She has also held volunteer law student positions at the Boston Immigration Court, the Boston College Innocence Project Clinic, the New Hampshire Public Defender, and the Gay and Lesbian Advocates and Defenders Legal Info Line. Before pursuing a career in law, McLaughlin was a paralegal at a firm in New York and a teacher in the Republic of the Marshall Islands. She is a graduate of Boston Law College and Dartmouth College, active in the community. McLaughlin is a board member of the Rogue Valley Transportation District in the Oregon State Bar Advisory Committee on Diversity and Inclusion.

Her appointment is effective immediately. So she literally clicked all of the boxes for the agenda of Kate Brown. And was appointed to the court. Yeah. She was appointed to the court by Kate Brown. So I look at it and it's, you know, as long as we don't pay attention to who we vote for, and you look at the whole country is waking up we need to wake up and we need to start a progression of our own of getting back our country by looking at

the realities here. I appreciate the call as always Ed. Could you hang on here just a minute just a moment? Sure. Okay great. I'll talk to you off air. It's 636 on KMED. Dr. Bill Forsten joins me here in just a moment and we'll shift gears. We'll revisit this topic here just a little bit, the injunction against the city of Grants Pass. If your garage or overhead shop door needs service or repair, please consider American Industrial Door. They have experienced and professional technicians with a fleet of trucks that can repair and service any door or opener. And if you need advice or just have a question about your door, just give them a call or stop by either showroom.

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I talked to him every now and then, not nearly enough, but he's a New York Times bestselling author and a professor of history at Montreat College in Montreat, North Carolina, holds a doctoral degree from Purdue, specializes in military history and technology, has written more than 50 books, including the incredible...was the first one one second after or one minute after? What was the title of that again, Dr. Forstin? Welcome back. The first one that came out in 2009 was one second after.

Yep, one second after. I still go back and reread that every now and then when it comes to how to prepare your community about stuff. And the basics of that, which kept me up nights when I first read it, was how EMP goes over and is blown off in a couple of two or three different areas of the United States back then. And it ends up taking us back to, as I was joking around, partying like it's 1799, you know, all over again. It's that sort of thing with the electrical grid down and most transportation and the way to produce and various other things. And it was a fascinating discovery as the survivors end up trying to move forward. And that's really what the book series was about,

and going through the various governments and the conspiracies and the attacks. It's really about it, wasn't it? You know, really? Yeah, it was a nice romp, three or four books, that when I finished this last one a year ago, I swore I'm not going to do another. My next book is going to be Happy Bunny Goes to Town. That's right. That's what you've mentioned. I like it. I'm gonna hold you to that, okay? But the point is though is that EMP is still something that you have been promoting,

electromagnetic pulse, that we that we harden our grid against it. And not a whole lot has happened so far. Every time I talk to you, not much has been done. But then there is a wrinkle that President Trump was talking about and that was a missile defense system that has been kicked around here for a little bit. Could you bring us up on that? Yeah, that is a major response to this. It's called the Golden Dome. It's the Israeli, well let's start with the Israeli system. It's the Golden Dome. It's the Israeli, well, let's start with the Israeli system.

It's called Iron Dome. It's proved to be very effective, but it's a tactical short-range defense system against incoming Iranian Aswan Amaz missiles that nails them in the final seconds before they hit, blows them up. Very, very effective. But what we need here is not a tactical system. We need a strategic system that can hit North Korean missiles thousands of miles before they get here. Now you might remember back the Reagan years, the 80s with strategic defense initiative.

Well yeah, we were talking Star Wars back then when I was a young man. I remember it pretty well. They were making fun of Reagan back at that time I know that. You know the guys were prophetic on more than one issue yeah the technology really wasn't quite there because you're talking about a missile moving thousands of miles an hour hitting another missile moving thousands of miles an hour but But the technology is here now. Golden Dome is doable. Rather than spending money on a new Green Deal or whatever,

we should have been spending money on this. But the last administration did nothing. So, the Golden Dome, is there an official project or is it just a concept or kind of a conceptual talk right now with President Trump? Because he mentioned this in his address to Congress earlier this year. Yeah, it's still on a conceptual stage, but Elon is getting so much crap from so many different sources.

His technology, his capability with technology is already there. Now, of course it would be a military, um, design. It could be built and deployed within a matter of a couple of years. We, we need the insurance policy. I like to say, uh, would you own a home and not have a mortgage? We don't have a mortgage on the United States against a threat like EMP. We don't have that mortgage in place. And remember, for those who don't know, an EMP is generally created by a high-level detonation

of a nuclear device. That's how it's done, right? Right. It only takes a small kiloton range, about four times the size of a rosh from a bomb, when detonated above the continental United States. It sets up that thing called the Compton effect, which is electrostatic discharge, which hits the Earth's surface and shorts our grid out. We have no defense against it. North Korea could hit us and Iran if we allow them to continue forward with their nuclear program. Is a golden dome a proof of concept when it's as it's being theorized right

now, Dr. Forsten, is it a space-based type thing where you know anti-missile missiles are in space or is it something where it is still a ground-based kind of thing, maybe space-based targeting? I don't know. I'm spitballing with you here, so I'm sorry if I'm asking a dumb question. Oh, no, it's not dumb at all. There's a number of different concepts. Of course, the simplest one is it's a land-based system along the West coast of the United States, and even over Guam and a couple other areas that launches on, you know, we see North Korean launch, we launch back.

There is talk about putting some units into space for this. Maybe even lasers might be the way of the future because that's instantaneous. We have not come up yet with a clear design, but we're doing so. But if I understand it correctly, a golden dome is not a dome that is designed to send missiles and rain missiles down and destroy other countries. It's to destroy other countries' missiles being deployed, right, or coming at us. That kind of thing? Yeah, exactly. Okay. Where Reagan first proposed it, we remember EMP was realized as far back as the 60s when we

detonated a weapon in space. Boom, it blew up part of the Hawaiian grid. So we've known about this for 60 years, but we haven't done anything effective against it. We're going around with our pants down saying, kick me. I suppose so. I remember that Newt Gingrich was in favor of getting the grid hardened. I know you worked with him a lot in that One Second After book series, and he's been working on this. Are you now shifting here to, hey, we need golden

dome in this particular case to protect against the EMP rather than hardening the grid? Or do you think still both need to be done? Both need to be done. And a third component here. According to DOE, most of our electrical grid is 30 to 40 years old. but you know, as I've asked you before, where do you think the replacement parts come for the major transformers and such? I think it's, isn't it Korea in one of the countries? China mainly. Oh, okay. You know, we're looking at those and it's bringing money back to the United States and industry is coming back, we need

to build a home-based industry as well to produce replacement parts and produce high-tech replacement parts that can resist. So this is a multifaceted situation. We need the missiles, we need better cybersecurity, we need an upgraded electrical system as well. But these are natural things that we should be doing all along. The analogy I always give, imagine it's December 8th, 1941, and our Navy says to the president, we got a problem. All our aircraft carriers are made in Japan. That's the situation we're in right now. Ah, got it. Dr. Bill Forstein with me this morning. Dr.

Forstein, what about, you know, you brought up aircraft carriers and I wonder if there would be pushback against something like this and the reason I bring this up about as far as pushback goes is that I can't help but think that there's a lot of push, especially from places that have naval facilities, that they want to go more in or they want more aircraft facilities or they want more aircraft carriers, they want more boats.

And I can't help but think that almost in these days of hypersonic missiles and drone technology that aircraft carriers, I hate to say this, are kind of like fighting World War II again. It's just not necessarily where we are right now in the military world. Would that be fair or am I being unfair about that characterization? No, you're being very fair. Aircraft carriers are great for force projection or dealing with something like the Houthis,

but dealing with a 21st century threat like this with hypersonic missiles, the aircraft carrier, yes, it is a weapon system from the past. I don't think it's the weapon system of the future. Yeah, and I'm kind of going there. But I would imagine in Congress, people that build aircraft carriers or districts that build aircraft carriers, they probably wouldn't want to give that up, would they? Of course. I mean, what's congressional spending? Everybody wants a piece of the pie in their district. Yeah, that's

right. How much would something like this cost? And of course, whatever you say, I will then double it, maybe more, but you know, let's hear it. A hundred billion, a hundred billion, but what's a hundred billion dollars today? I mean, how many charging stations did our government build with the ten billion dollars that they said we're going to make fifty thousand charging stations? I think it was eight and half of them don't work. What does Hegseth think about this? Has anyone approached him about this potential, having a golden dome? You got me, I don't know. Oh okay, all right. Well I just thought at least bring it up. So we're just in the real planning side of

it right now at this stage, right? That's where we are? Yeah, but we we needed, I hate to put it this way, we need a crash program. We've got to build a better defensive system and it's long overdue. It should have been built decades ago. I think what most people would like about this Dr. Forshkine is that it is a purely a defensive system. It's essentially a gun that is shooting a bullet that hits the other guy's bullet and that's not so bad. That's really okay. I think that's a very good thing. How can you be against it? Now, is it something that is able to... Do we actually have the

technology right now? Do the Iron Dome type missiles work for this kind of thing or just have to be scaled up to be able to go farther? Scaled up to go further. And the Iron Dome system definitely works. When the Iranians launched, what was it, about 230 weapons against Israel about six months ago, I think all but one or two were shot down. That demonstrates that the system on a tactical level is very, very effective. So, Mr. Forshton, where do you think we can go to find out more? Do you write about this on your site? Where do you go? Where do I send people to find out? You know, it's still at that stage. I always have to repeat, I don't have classified documents.

I don't have a classified security or anything like that. So I'm working in the general media, but there's more and more articles coming out about that. I would just simply say, start looking up Golden Dome and educate yourself. All right, will do. Dr. Forstin, I really appreciate you coming on. Are you going to be having Happy Bunny Goes to the Store for your next book,

or are you going to be delving into this particular situation? Yeah, and then after that will be Happy Bunny Goes to Mars. Yeah. What do you think about that situation with Musk overall? I'm concerned and, hey, I'm happy to have everybody go after the people going after the Tesla cars and attacking Elon, but yet I'm a little bit concerned that the right is all of a sudden falling in love with someone who's still, you know, just hoping to plumb the taxpayers for his next grift, which is going to Mars. First, it was the electric car at taxpayer expense. Any thoughts on that? There are so many things that Musk works on and one that gets very very little notice. He's doing major research on

using hardware and software to allow paraplegics to walk again, the blind to see. This guy has this finger in a lot of different parts and they're very very interesting parts Okay, but you don't think that there is any problem with getting a little too close to that those fingers in our government No, I prefer him to some of the other idiots we had in the past. He's doing a hell of a good job Dr. Forstin, I always appreciate the talk. Thanks for sharing a few about it. We'll have you back here. Always good to have you on. Be well. Okay. It's always a pleasure to chat with you right now. And start writing about happy money. All right. 654 at KMED. Dr. William Forstin, New York Times bestselling author. This is the Bill Meyers Show.

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Also going to be talking with Dr. Edward Gere about what is the scientific evidence for the childhood vaccination schedule. Wrote a book, co-wrote a book with Dr. Edward Barkey too, I think is what it was. And it's an interesting book about how unavoidably unsafe, unavoidably unsafe about the vaccine world. And a lot of people have been talking more about vaccines especially with the rise of measles, of measles down on the border. There's been a lot of conversation about this. I'll tell you, the push in the vaccination world, the latest Pfizer ad that we play here

from one of our networks, one of our networks plays the latest Pfizer ad, which kind of cracks me up. You know, the one in which they're trying to get Generation X to line up for the pneumonia vaccine, the pneumonia vaccine. Come on, you know, we're the generation that gave everybody the World Wide Web and music videos and it's time for us to lead again and I'm thinking to myself, boy, Generation X, the main characteristic, if I was to describe Generation X, now I am a late baby boomer. I was born in 1961. I'm at the very tail end of that.

Never really felt comfortable in the boomer. I'm probably leaning a little more in my attitudes towards the X world, if I have to be honest about that. But I find it fascinating that they're trying to market these vaccines to Generation X. Get your pneumonia vaccine, you know, that sort of thing. Generation X, if you had to describe them, distrustful of large institutions and big bureaucracy, and they're trying to get them all to, hey, it's time for you to lead again. Sign up, roll up your sleeve. I find that fascinating. I guess maybe that's why Pfizer looks at Generation X as the last generation that they need to conquer. I don't know,

but I couldn't help. We'll talk with Dr. Gere about that here in just a little bit. It just kind of cracked me up every time I hear that ad. Couple minutes before seven. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. Michael Shaw. I've got to ask you to clarify something

that you just said with your guest. Yes. Did you say that you were okay with people attacking Tesla vehicles and dealerships? No, absolutely not. I said I'm okay with going after those people, is what I said. Oh, going after the people. Okay. I was just tuning in and I thought I heard it the other way around and going, that doesn't sound like Bill at all. No, no, that's not me at all. I'm not, you see,

like I said, I like some of the things that Elon Musk does, but the Tesla electric vehicle was a taxpayer grift from the beginning. And as much as I like some of the Doge stuff and other things, he's still always looking to find a way to leverage taxpayer money for something else. This time it's going to Mars. And that's, you know, why I'm always a little bit suspicious, and I don't want to fall in love. Don't want to fall in love, happy to be happy when he does good things that I like. That's all I'm saying. Okay? Cool. I get it. And the thing about the taxpayer funded electric car, I agree with you, is that if it was so great, we wouldn't have needed to do $7,500 rebates.

Yeah, that's right. I can disagree with you on the adventure that we're trying to undertake and going to other planets because basically we have defunded and de-incentivized NASA to undertake those things. So why not have support for private industry to do it? Okay. All right. Here's what we do though. Can we only send the gangrenes and the enviros to Mars and let them terraform Mars to their extent and that way that they can have their perfect utopia and we're allowed to live our lives. What say you? Oh absolutely I agree with you a thousand percent on that one. Okay we'll let them

do the the geoengineering of Mars, let them do it and that they can create their utopia. Who's with me? I think if we put that plan together you would get private donations to make that happen. You wouldn't need any tax money. Oh, Barbara Streisand wants to go? Fine. Cast of the View wants to go? Wonderful. I'll be happy to send you to the moon and beyond. All right, just having fun. But appreciate the call, Michael. 7705633, 7 o'clock at KMED, KMED HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Yeah, Ron Grants Pass. Hey, Ron,

how you doing this morning? I got a scenario for you, a play to you. Consider the judge being Judge Mengala and you have two patients, one being the taxpayer who's strapped down to aney, and another being a homeless person with needles sticking out of his arm and drugged up. Well, that's quite the mental picture. You know that, Ron. Just wait. Just wait.

Let me finish. The picture of Judge Mengele of putting a transfusion of money slash blood from the good guy, the taxpayer, into the drug dealer, drug person, and the drug person has a return tube from his body over to the taxpayer, and that has the drugs that are in his body. So now you're transmitting the drugs back into the healthy person, who now is being polluted, if you like, so at some point, you're not gonna have

any kind of good blood going between the good guy and the bad guy. And so that's what we're up against. We have this Judge Mingler who's deciding who in the hell is going to provide what to whom, little old dictator. And something's got to be done about this. I want to be fair though about this situation with the Judge Friday who did this. And having, I would almost have to look at the Oregon State Legislature laws, because remember, the Oregon State Legislature laws, unfortunately, used the term reasonable. And once you put something like that into a law,

you're in trouble then, really, aren't you? Because one person's reasonable is another person's extreme. We're not far enough, isn't it? You're absolutely right, however. The problem that we have is they have a color of law whereby legislators tell good, healthy people they have to provide for unhealthy people, or they're going to get their property leans and then they'll lose their property if they resist. And then the judge is going to come right along and he's going to say, well, you're resisting the law, so therefore I'm going to find you, I'm going to take more from you and make you even more destitute. All right. So I get that you're not real happy with that injunction, in other words. I'm happy for freedom and for peace amongst society, but I'm also saying you can't keep

draining the resources from a taxpayer, a good person, and giving it to a bad person without ultimately having it like a teaspoon of poop in a gallon of ice cream. That's what you end up with. But is it right to call them bad people? I don't want to call my fellow man bad people. They're having problems and they're behaving badly and I don't necessarily want to take away people's humanity run. Well the problem with that is they don't care about us. It's only about themselves and the next hit.

So they're in a lot of problems. They need to be like you brought up and fixed somehow so that they can't go back to that after you fixed them. Okay. All right. I appreciate the call. It's why we had them. Okay.

Okay. Thank you, Ron. This is KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KPXG, Grants Pass. I think I'm repeating myself though, but we will have town hall news coming up next. And then we're going to talk about childhood vaccine schedules with Dr. Geer.