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Episode Date: March 31, 2026

Open phones start, an interesting real American quiz, former State Sen. Baertschiger with a talk on the falsehoods of non-partisan elections, how a Dem could win in the Jo County Commissioner race.

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That's all right. I'm not bringing a lot of joy. Well, that's the whole idea. The whole idea of the happy, happy joy joy song is that it's Completely the opposite of what you really are. That's all. Absolutely. I'm with you. I love it. I'm, I wear that badge proudly. I'm so excited. I feel like I'm an important member of the Bill Myers community now. I finally made it. Well, we always appreciate that. So what's on your mind, huh? All right, I got the Idaho bathleth in my shoe today. It's not just a little pebble. You were talking about our immigration issue. an ongoing thing. We're acting like this is all new.

This has been going on for 60 years or more. But anyways, but it's been, it's been an ongoing thing. After a certain amount of time, if I lived in any other country in the world, I would speak their language. I would read their language. And I would even take on some of their mannerisms. If I was in France, I'd have a ascot and a beret, you know, and I say, we, we, you know. And I would be going to. to la patista patisserie to get my croissant in the morning, along with my coffee.

And have a baguette. Yeah. But I'm not. I'm here. So, you know, I speak a gutter old German-Germanic-influenced language called American, and that's how I talk. So, oh, well. All right. So where's your point on this, then?

Well, I keep getting, if I get something from the DMV or some other kind of document, it's in 29 languages. And I'm just, when I call on most things, I either get for English plus one, and then don't de espalio, press dose, you know. And I'm just trying to think, why are we putting everything in all these languages? How come all these people who love America aren't becoming Americans and living like Americans? Because it's not about loving American and loving America and being Americans. And to your, to the point, though when it comes to not all members of the of the Mexican invasion feel this way, but there's a significant, significant portion of it that has been surveyed.

And honestly, they do look at it as a soft and maybe hardening reconquista movement in the West Coast, especially, California. They look at California as theirs, that it's rightfully theirs, and that attitude is not uncommon. It's not spoken about openly, but it is advocated openly in many of the advocacy groups. So there we go. That is, it is, you know, like I said, a soft reconquista, and we are enabling it. That's what we're doing.

But also the Muslims, they have their own little neighborhoods and their Sharia law in some parts of the country. But I will say, though, I just wanted to mention there here quickly, though, that Texas Sharia law community, that was being brought up, has been squashed. So that's not going to happen. That was stopped in Texas. Maybe not in Texas, but what about Minnesota and whatnot? But also, why am I getting stuff that is in Hmong and Vietnamese? That war has been over a long time.

We brought those people over a long time. Because we have not been forcing assimilation. We have not been forcing assimilation because our system has decided that it doesn't love our native population enough. I mean, that's why I don't have another answer for you. Do you have a better answer? But I'm just saying that is a huge problem. That is really, they're flying other flags besides the stars and stripes. And I'm just saying it really is a problem.

Thank you for the call. Let me go to Jim. Jim's in Joe County. Hello, Jim. How are you? Yeah. Good morning, Bill. I really enjoyed Michael Neal's segment there.

Glad you did. You know, one of the last things he said is that, you know, in this country, we don't assign the crime. to the baby. We do one better. We murder babies that dare to be conceived. And that can't be forgotten one iota as far as I'm concerned. So, you know, I don't think that the assigning a crime to a baby, as they say, which is the baby is a minor, and it needs to be with his parents.

and so the baby goes with the parent, not the parent doesn't go with the baby. I've always found it interesting, Jim, that the law will actually, you know, if you, let's say you shoot and kill the mother of an unborn child, you end up being charged, right, twice? Yeah. Yeah. Being charged twice, right? But it's like the status of the unborn baby is that it's a life only if you want it. I've always found that fascinating that in one particular situation, it's a, you know, it's a life and it had value in another situation where you don't want it, then it has no value. Don't you find that?

Yeah. Yeah. It's optional value, you know? Yeah. Sometimes it has value. Sometimes it does. Yeah, you know, if you were to shoot a pregnant woman and then you kill the unborn baby and the baby was going to go for an abortion, is that a crime then? Right.

Yeah. I guess the shooting would be not the killing of the unborn child. It's weird. It's kind of weird the way we operate in this country, that's for sure. I think we've got to be careful because we don't want the Supreme Court getting twisted on that one particular issue. Yeah, yeah, we know. I didn't want to go there, but I'm just saying, but your point was well made. Okay, thank you, Jim.

770K.M.E.D. It's open phones on Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Hi, good morning. Morning Bill, Steve in Sunny Valley. Hi, Steve. I had the opportunity in college to work in Switzerland as part of the language department. I was supposed to learn better German, but in Switzerland they speak worse German. Okay.

But they also speak three other languages. They have four national languages, one of them which is Romance, spoken by 1% of the population, which is the closest thing to living Latin there is. However, they have a very interesting immigration policy. there are a lot of Poles and Turks working in Switzerland as immigrants, even though they were born there and their parents were born there. And if the economy turns bad, their work visas are granted every six months. Oh, so they can kick him out, right? They can kick them out to a country that they've never been to before.

And they don't get paid the same wages as Swiss either. If you've got a Turk and a Swiss guy working the same job side by side, the Turk will be making. 70% of what the Swiss guy's making. In other words, they're just actually open about it because people will say, well, you know, the businesses, they want illegal immigrants so they can pay them less, right? Well, in Switzerland, they're just honest about it and say you get paid less if you're an immigrant. Right. Yeah.

Why doesn't anybody call them racist? They are. But you know what I'm getting every time anybody, anytime any other country in the world has any kind of immigration deal and they say, yeah, we can kick these people out. You don't hear our leftist cabal here. You don't hear the George Soros back to nonprofits and things like talking about, oh, those racist situations in Switzerland. No, it's always about how bad we are somehow. You don't know. Everybody's racist. Every, every race is racist. Yeah, and if everybody is racist, then nobody is. Okay? All right. Thanks, Steve. Appreciate the call.

quick check of the Fox News headlines, and then we shall continue with Pebble and Your Shoe Tuesday Talk. On top of home and auto, progressive protects your boat RVN. Your pocket by visiting my Oregon-E deals.com and start saving today. Okay, I'm waiting for my Diner 62 theme music. Where is it? I'm going to hit my button again. There.

There we go. Can't have the quiz without the theme, right? Diner 62 Real American Quiz. We have four contestants lined up that are hungry, and ready to play for a $20 gift certificate, the Diner 62, which we love, dearly. Dory's and Grants Pass, Dory, you ever played this before? I think you're a new one, right?

Yes, I've played several times over the last few years. Okay, well, good. I'm glad you're here. Well, we're talking about American history from tomorrow, tomorrow and history, April 1st of 1946. An undersea earthquake off the Alaskan coast triggers a massive tsunami, kills 159 people in Hawaii.

I kind of forgot about this part of American history. In the middle of the night, a 13,000 feet beneath the ocean surface, it was an 8.6 magnitude timbler recorded in the North Pacific. All right. Quake triggered devastating tidal waves throughout the Pacific, particularly in Hawaii. And one of the islands hit by the tsunami shortly after the quake, an enormous wave estimated at nearly 100 feet high, Dory. Is that incredible?

A hundred foot high wave crashing into the shore. A lighthouse located 30 feet above sea level where five people lived. Smashed to pieces by the wave, all five killed instantly. And then it headed to Hawaii, 2,400 miles away. The question for the wind, Dory, is how long did it take for the tsunami to reach Hawaii? Was it A, 5 hours, B, 7 hours, C, 9 hours, D, 11 or E 13 hours. How long did it take for the wave to come? I'll go with 11 hours, Bill.

You're going to go with 11 hours, D. I'm sorry, Dory. Not this time. All right. Appreciate that. We got Lauren. Lauren, who's always hungry. Hello, Lauren. Welcome. Yes, I know. I'm a regular, but I've been trying for two weeks, and I've been two months. So, okay. Okay, so we're talking about how long did it take for that tsunami? to hit Hawaii. Just an amazing huge, huge. I mean, 100-foot wave. That's amazing.

Was it 5 hours, 7 hours, 9 hours, or 13 hours? What do you say? I'm going to go with 5 hours. You're going to go with 5 hours. Good day. It's a good day for you. You're a lot faster than we thought, right? The wave headed towards the Southern Pacific, 500 miles per hour.

T tsunamis travel fastest in deep water. It reached Hawaii, 2,400 miles in just five hours. Captain Wickland in the U.S. Navy, the first has spot the coming wave at about seven in the morning, four and a half hours after the quake. His position on the bridge of a ship, 46 feet above sea level, put him at eye level with the monster wave that he described as two miles long. That's just an incredible story. By the way, as the first wave came in and receded, the water in Hawaii's Hilo Bay disappeared. Boats were left on the sea next to the flopping fish, and then the tsunami struck. In the city of Hilo, it was a 32-foot wave devastating the town, completely destroying a third of the city.

The bridge across the Wailuka River was picked up by the wave and pushed 300 feet away. In Hilo, 96 people lost their lives, rather. in other parts of Hawaii, waves reached as high as 60 feet there. A schoolhouse was crushed by the tsunami, killed the teacher and 25 students inside. The massive wave scene as far away as Chile, where 18 hours after the quake near Alaska, unusually large waves crashing ashore. No casualties there. But this is one of those tsunami issues that I had forgotten about and didn't learn in school. Did you, by chance?

Did you? No, I didn't. Yep. Never heard about this one. and I guess it's because, well, Hawaii is just a territory at that point. Maybe we didn't look at it as a state at that point in time. But yeah, a lot of damage caused by that. It's pretty tough being at sea level, certain places.

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Yeah, the Matt Spurlock's of the world. There's only one or two Democrats and a whole bunch of Republicans. How do you think that vote's going to go? Hmm? I'll talk with a hermit about that. We'll kind of dig into Le Controversy of the day, as it were. 726. Let me see.

John, you called a little bit earlier, and this had to do about your grandmother lost her citizenship back in the day because of who she married. And you went and looked it up, and I talked with Mike O'Neill off air about your situation, and he said there were laws back in the day that described what is going on. Tell me what you found out, because this is something I never knew about the United States legal world. Well, it was called the expatriation Act of 1907. And from 1907 to 1922, any American woman who married a non-citizen that is a foreigner, a foreigner, yeah, automatically lost her U.S. citizenship, regardless of whether she lived in the United States or abroad, men never lost their citizen in this way. Huh, so men could marry a, well, let's say, a mail order bride, so to speak, right?

No problem, right? A Frenchie. Yeah. So you could bring in the French ballet star, whatever it is, that's fine, and nothing happened to you. They only did it to the women. Imagine that. And then it changed in 22 and 31 and 31 to 40. they amended them more than 40, they pretty well got rid of it, totally.

Well, thank you for bringing that up because I did ask Mike about it off air, and he said, yeah, there were laws. There were some rather odd laws that we'd look at today and just kind of go, huh? You know, scratching our heads, but, you know, that's true. Women were kind of looked at property in those days. You know, leave it to the government to take care of citizenship, yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thanks for letting me know.

And, by the way, John, just for you do it. that legal eagle research there and giving you a real American salute. Okay. Good going. Thank you. All right. Yeah, because I told John I'd never heard of such things. It's probably a lot of things that we didn't learn that we didn't learn in government school.

Sherry, how are you doing this morning? Welcome to the show. Hi, Bill. I just had a story about curfew and I had great parents. Oh, okay. Let me set the tape. people who just may have awakened? Sure.

All right. And last hour I was posing, should Southern Oregon have a curfew? And the reason I'm looking at this, I'm thinking of this 16-year-old, this juvenile, ended up getting shot in the neck. He's recovering an OHSU. Now, he got into a tussle with a 21-year-old guy, apparently. The 21-year-old guy pulls out a gun allegedly, shoots him, and then, of course, he's all hurting right now. But the way I tend to look at things here, Cherry, is that no kid out on the streets of any city at 2.30 in the morning is usually up to good. Just saying. Okay. Well, I was in Los Altos Hills when I was a teenager and a small child. And I had great parents who protected me and they taught me how to fix things. So at 13, I really.

felt very trapped in this gorgeous home. And, you know, they, they were not four. They were kind of well off and all that. And I was embarrassed about it. So I decided, I was kind of bored. So you were rebelling, in other words, is where you're going to go. Well, I didn't really want to openly rebel. I just wanted to get out. So they, they, I used a Phillips screwdriver on the screen. I undid the screen. I jumped out of the window. It was like two in the morning. It was raining. And I decided to walk downtown. Well, it was two miles away downtown. No big deal. I just had to walk a long way in the rain. And I had a white umbrella. And I made it to town. I made the two miles. and I jumped into a phone booth to make a fake call when the police were there.

And I was, you know, acting like, oh, I'm calling them. And they knocked on the glass door. And they said, what are you doing, little girl? Because I was really short, you know, small. And I said, oh, and I was kind of scared. And they'd get in the car right now. And so I got in there. car and they said, what the heck are you doing after curfew? It's two in the morning.

But you see, that's kind of my point, though, about the 16-year-old. I don't want to blame the victim necessarily, but I think you're kind of asking for trouble sometimes, but how do they end up? Well, they took me home, and I said, please don't put the siren on. You know, I'll never do it again. And actually, I go to bed about 7 o'clock now. I'm still scared. Yeah. In all seriousness, though, I'm glad it worked out okay for you, all right? Oh, yeah.

But, you know, I remember what it was like being a teenager, and if there's going to be some trouble, and, of course, you got the hormones going and everything else, and, you know, a 16-year-old guy on the streets of Medford is usually not looking to do much good, in my opinion, at 2 in the morning. Am I right or wrong about that? Well, yeah, I guess you are right. Most teenagers are crazy. And I think they should be locked up until they're, you know, 30. And even then.

Well, I wasn't talking about locking them up. I'm just like saying, hey, you're just not supposed to be out on the street. You've got to be home at that point. No, I do. I really believe in a curfew. I'm sorry. I do for everybody, because it's just too dangerous. now out there with so many things happening with, you know, bad people, bad drugs, bad mojo, bad parents. Actually, you know, in many ways, our areas here in Southern Oregon are considerably safer than some, okay? I know, I mean, walking out on Biddle at 2 in the morning is not like walking, you know, through the, you know, Portland area around ice, okay?

We're not talking about that kind of stuff. I'm not trying to make it the equivalent. But generally speaking, when I was, where places I grew up, if you were a minor, unless you were with an adult, you were not out on the street. You had to be with an adult out on the street in order to do that. And you had to be with your parent or guardian is the way the rule was. And I thought it was a reasonable rule. I appreciate the call.

I'm glad that you survived your adventures at 13, okay? Now, Russ and Donna ended up writing me about that when I first posed it and saying, no, I don't believe there should be any curfews, Bill. I think it should be like when I was growing up a good old-fashioned blank-de-blank-blank-blank whooping. I suppose so. Ross and Donna, only problem with that is that,

I don't know if the parents, of course, if the parents do that now, then they end up being arrested by the cops. I don't know. I just thought that curfews were a reasonable way to tamp down some of the nighttime badness and violence that tends to happen. And, you know, a lot of times,

I remember what's like with a kid? What are you rebelling against? What do you got? like the old Rebel with a Cause movie, right? Hey, Dave, how are you doing? What do you think about that? Well, Bill, I'm not hoping you're having a good day. I am.

But when I was 16, Bill, the 2.30 in the morning, I was out working smudge spots. You know, when it keeps the bears from freezing. Oh, very good point. But you were actually doing something productive. Right. Well, you know, you'd go there. You didn't always light them off. You'd go there and you'd wait until they'd say, all right, it's time to light them off.

Uh-huh. You know, I was making $1.65 an hour. Pretty good money then, wasn't it? Well, sort of. Uh-huh. Now... It was better than it is now. Yeah, I suppose.

I suppose that buck 65 probably spends better back then than what we would get right now at the equivalent, at the equivalent wage. Yeah, so, you know, and then there's a lot of dishwashers out that are like 16 working, And, you know, they might work until 2.30 in the morning. They're really allowed to work until 2.30 in the morning? Well, it depends on what time of the day you go and what your schedule is. I worked until midnight, you know. Now, I would work until late sometimes. But working late for me was working until about 8 or 9 or maybe 10.

I think 10 o'clock was usually the latest I would only work. I had to drive at the airport when I was working at Copper Kitchen. I had to go get to the airport and get the pilots and bring them back to the motel room. Okay. I wouldn't be until 10 o'clock at night. All right. Well, I guess the difference, there must have been an exception for people who were actually employed doing some work. But I think what this was is that if you had a, I think what it was is that if you had, if you had, if you're just, you know, walking on the streets, it's two in the morning.

You're just walking out on the street. You're a 15-year-old. Yeah, exactly. There was probable cause to pick you up then, is really what it was. Right. Okay. All right. Appreciate the call, Dave.

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Former state senator Herman Bet, Berchiger. How are you doing, Herman? Welcome back. Always good to have you on. Good morning. How are you doing? I'm doing well. It's kind of looking at the political landscape. I've got to be talking with Ed Deal here at about half hours. So talk about what's going on with that situation. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be interesting. Yeah, running for governor. And it's obviously, I have to say he's in the top three tier of candidates. He and Chris Dudley and Christine Grayson. would appear to be the most credible that we have moving forward, fair enough? You know, I don't know where I guess we're going to see. Okay, all right. Okay. Well, I don't know.

I know I'm not going to worry about David Medina. I'm not going to worry about David Medina, though. He may have... Probably not. Yeah. Probably not. He was going to call the show. We were going to talk on the other day on Friday.

Then he didn't show up. I figured, okay, if he's not showing up, he's probably not really serious running for a governor. Just saying, but anyway... Well, he's probably serious. He's just not working very hard. Well, that could be. That could be. Nothing against the man.

I'm sure he had good things to say. I guess he spoke at the Patriots conference on Saturday. And I guess in some respects what has concerned me about some of the ways that we run for political office is that I think in some ways, President Trump having run for president first time out, I think encouraged a lot of other people that's saying, okay, well, you know, running for a big political position, all you have to do is just, to just show up and people will just understand my native brilliance, you know, not understanding that Trump was already famous and a billionaire, you know, up to that point.

You know, I'm getting at how some people act like everything's like they're running for student counsel. You know, no experience, no name recognition, no money, but yet we're going to run, right? That kind of thing? Well, you just described when I ran for the Senate. I had no name recognition, no money, and I've never been in politics. Yeah, but that is the state said it. And you're doing this at a local, you know, at a local in your community.

You can still at a state senate or state rep level to an extent do that, do that kind of stuff. I think when you're talking about governor or you're talking about a U.S. senator or you're talking about, you know, a congressman, let's say, with rare exception. Or certainly running for president, it takes a little more heft, a little more gas in the tank, so to speak. That's all I was getting up. Oh, no, I don't disagree with you, you know, but there's always, there are always exceptions to the rules. Yep, absolutely. They're far and few between. Indeed.

Let's talk about what's going on here with the county commission race. I've had only a couple people reach out and want to talk with me about that. Jim Raffordy was one of the people. I'm going to get back to him. See you about getting them on. But you were opining yesterday when you and I were doing our little pre-conversation that Republicans could actually lose this so-called non-partisan election. And I know that that's what's in the charter. It's non-partisan. But nonpartisan doesn't really mean partisan or nonpartisan. It just really means

the partisanship is hidden, but it's kind of BS, isn't it? Really? Ultimately, that's why I'm glad Jackson County resisted the siren song to go with nonpartisan elections. Yeah. Well, I've said it before on your show. There's, you know, name a democracy on the planet, that's nonpartisan. I think that that is just, it's story tales, you know, with Alice in Wonderland and Talking Frogs. I mean, it's all partisan. Well, why do we fall for that?

Why do we fall for this? Somehow nonpartisan good and partisan all of a sudden, dirty somehow. It's almost like it's dirty or something's wrong with it. I don't get that. To me, it's just as you're just naming your tribal affiliations in one way or the other. Is that it? Or, I mean, partisan. partisan, you are naming your tribe affiliations, which kind of gives the starting point of your

views on the issue. You know, you're not going to, you're not going to be running for a Republican and, say, be pro-choice. I mean, those things don't happen, and you're probably not going to be running as a Democrat and be pro-life. So that's just, and then every party has its platform and you know you're kind of supposed to go along with the platform but it gives you it gives a voter a starting point on how you view the issues and so nonpartisan is oh well you know I am it's kind of harder to know where the person is on the issues I mean you have to do a lot more research what they say and if they're silent they're not you know how are you going to know Well, that's what's irritated me about judicial nominations and judges.

Because, you know, there's all this thing. Well, you're not supposed to really know what, because they're just that perfect. They are such perfect humans that we know that we can trust them to be unbiased and nonpartisan. And by the way, you can't ask about any legal decisions because, well, that would be against the rules. And so you're kind of voting blind with it. At least party affiliations give some idea of where you're coming from. Absolutely. And when justices are serving, we say it all the time every day. This justice is a conservative justice and this justice is a liberal justice. But we're not allowed to be honest to just call them that and have them just declare where they're coming from.

It's just nonsense the way we run some of these elections here, Herman. So let's look here at our county commission positions in Josephine County. Now, it's very quiet in Jackson County because it's partisan, so it's going to be, you know, primary battles and then on to the general. But in Josephine County, the primary could actually determine the winner, depending on how they vote, right? How it goes. Yeah, and in both races, it appears that there is a one liberal, you know, one liberal candidate who has stated or talked about their liberalism compared to, three or four conservative candidates, and that's how they've referred to themselves before. So I think that's dangerous for the conservatives because having three or four conservative candidates breaks up the vote and having one liberal candidate, I mean, that's who they're going to

vote for. All right. Let's take a look here at position one. Now, Andreas Bleg took himself out. He took himself out of the race. He withdrew from that. So on position one in Josephine County, and by the way, your dog in the fight is that you used to be a Josephine County Commissioner. We can say that.

I think people know that, but you understand how the election goes. So we have John West, Tracy Thompson, Corey Wilson, Connor Kirkpatrick, Colleen Martin, and Alicia Dove is all competing. This is a jungle primary, so we have all five. All it takes is one of them to get 50% plus one, and then they are the next county commission, correct? That's correct. Now, Colleen Martin is currently serving on the board right now, correct? Correct. All right.

So she was appointed there recently. So of the five, I certainly know John West isn't, is not a Democrat. Which one is the more or the more democratic version of all of that? I know it's nonpartisan, but what's the one hiding? I would say it would be, in my opinion, it would be Tracy Thompson. Okay. So Tracy Thompson, you think, is the hidden, is the hidden Democratic. Yes. Okay. I think that's, I think that's going to be the one that the Democrats most likely we will vote for.

Okay. And so now you have John West and Colleen Martin. And the other ones, they're going to pull a few votes, too. They're kind of, they're kind of hard to do research on to see exactly where they're at. Yeah. But they're non-name. There are no names. And you really can't. can't find where they are on the position. So what happens is that the Republicans and or conservative voters in Josephine County, although generally speaking in the majority of the county, would end up splitting their vote among four or five candidates in this particular race in position one. And then we have Tracy, who could come out the winner with Democrats. I mean, Democrats are smart.

They're not stupid at all about the way they structure this. So you'll have five Republicans. running, and then you have one Democrat running under the no-partisan label. We don't know what their party affiliates. That's why I say liberal and conservative, because we don't know what their party affiliation is. We just know by how they look at the issues, do we look at the issues through a conservative lens or through a liberal lens. That's all we know. Okay. And that's all we can know, which makes it even more of a challenge. When you looked at his, when you looked at his filings, he checks.

Republican, so I guess we know he's a Republican. Oh, okay. So even though it's nonpartisan, you can check your party affiliation when you do sign up, right? Right. Okay. The other one's check nonpartisan. Oh, all the rest checked nonpartisan. That's interesting. All right. Yeah. So John's the only one that actually declared it. So this is one of those situations where the Democrat could really, could literally win the race right out, couldn't they? If they, you know, when you look at the voter numbers in Josephine County, generally speaking, there's two registered Republicans for every registered Democrat. So, you know, if the Republicans split up their votes and don't get behind a single person, it's possible that you can see a liberal candidate move forward.

Okay. And what's really interesting about this is that, well, the odds of the liberal candidate actually getting 50% plus one vote. That's kind of slim, though, given what you said, with Democrat registrations being considerably less than Republicans in Joe County, isn't that right? Or not? Well, it's a nonpartisan, so that means it's a jungle primary, so any non-affiliated or any non-affiliates or, or any. Republicans can vote for Democrats, Democrats can vote for Republicans. Oh, I forgot about that. That's right. Since it's nonpartisan, the NABs are in. Of course, the Naves, of course, are always saying, well, we should be involved in the primary, right? Well, I say, well, become a party member, is what I would say.

But there's been this goal to get everybody to all these elections to go nonpartisan, which essentially means that Navs, and Naves in the Oregon, in the state of Oregon, largely lean liberal. Wouldn't that be fair to say here most of the time? Well, we have found that non-affiliated voters usually mirror the district. So if it's a conservative-leaning district, the non-affiliated is lean conservative, and if it's a liberal-leaning district, they kind of liberal. But you don't know who's going to. It's just more people that have the ability to show up and vote.

Now, will they? I don't know. bill. I don't know. I think we're going to have a pretty good voter turnout because there is going to be the gas tax initiative on the ballot. And I think at gas prices at $6 a gallon, hey, even the Democrats hate that one. Yeah. Well, they're not going to tell you that. And they'll just blame Trump for it. But anyways, so I do, I'm anticipating a pretty good turnout. I could be wrong. All right. Well, we'll see about this one. And then let's go to Commissioner Position 2 of the Jungle Primary coming up here in May for Josephine County. Once again,

it's so boring in Jackson County. So we have to pay attention to Josephine County Politics, Herman, for entertainment value. Okay? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's what you have to look here. So now, Simon quit. Now, Simon's completely out? I thought he was running for budget or for treasurer. He's running for treasure. Okay, treasure. Okay, that's what he's running for. So the people who are left, Chad Hansen, Matt, Matt Ide, is that how you pronounce his name? E-I-D-E-E-E-D, okay, Matt E-D-E-D, okay, Matt E-D-E-D, okay, Matt E-D-Burlok.

Oh, the indivisible guy is running for county commission. Great, great. Yeah, I would say that he's probably liberal-leaning. I would think so. I would think so. Jim Rafferty running. You got Michael Budge, Mark Selle. Alligman, kind of the libertarian lefty, right?

I guess that's a good way. Yeah. Of putting him. Indira Nichols and Bill Erdle. Oh, no, Bill withdrew to. Bill's written. He withdrew on, too. Yeah, and Mark Jones.

Well, we know Chad Hanson is a registered Republican, and we know that Ingris is, and I assume that James Rafferty, I mean, if you look at what he's been saying for a long time. Oh, yeah, yeah, he's very solid. Right, right. So we know that. And the rest, you know, Mark Seligman, oh, he runs in every election, so we know where Mark stands on the issues. And then this Matt Spurlock, and it's interesting to see how he is rising up in the social media. Pretty nice-looking Facebook posts and stuff like that. certainly not describing him as the leader of Indivisible and, what is it, the, no Kings march

and all that kind of stuff. So I would have a funny feeling that he's going to be rise to the Democrats' favorite. That wouldn't be my guess. But do you see, it appears that once again, one Democrat candidate and then a whole bunch of either sort of in the middle end or conservatives running. and so you know where the Democrat votes will naturally gravitate toward, right? Yeah, and I, you know, I think, I think, I believe Mark Seligman is a registered Democrat, but he's constantly fighting with the Democrat Party.

So I can't imagine them coming out and saying vote for Mark Seligman. Yeah, he's a little more leaning towards. I've talked to him off and on over the years, and, you know, they're always entertaining conversations, you know, when you talk with Mark. and it I would I would dare say he's one of a slightly older school Democrat maybe that's a way of putting it that be fair kind of and then we have we have Mark Jones who historically has said that he's a moderate Republican so I would say you know that's kind of what he said before that's kind of how he portrays himself so you actually have one two three four individuals that we could probably consider have a conservative view of thing. Yeah. The strategy really should be doing our best to find the strongest conservative candidate

and work around one rather than splitting this up. Wouldn't that be ideal? You know, it would probably be better than the way it's going right now. Because there's a real risk depending on how the vote ends up. being sliced and diced that you may not even necessarily have the strongest Republican in a dogfight, let's say, with Matt Spurlock. Let's say Matt Spurlock ends up being elevated, you know, to the top from just being the Democratic, you know, candidate of choice. What do you think? Yeah. So it's probably most likely you're going to have one conservative thinking

person and one liberal thinking person probably moving forward to the, November ballot. However, don't rule it out because it's a jungle primary bill, and people have trouble understanding what that means. That means that half the Republicans are sitting around watching Fox News and not even bothering to fill out this. I don't care about this, right? You know, it's only a, you know, it's a primary election, yada, yada, that kind of thing. So they ignore it. Meanwhile, the indivisible types get together and really work. get out the vote, and all they have to do is have a greater voter turnout, and they win. That's right. That's correct. And the person that's at home that's not listening to this radio

show, but the person's at home that is trying to live and raise their family and go to work and everything, when they get their ballot, they're really not going to have a clue who to vote for. And the question is, will they take the time to read the voter's pamphlet? And will they take the time to do some research. I would say probably not. And that's how idiots sometimes make it to the top in some elections. That's correct. And that's just the warning.

So talk to your friends, encourage them, get the turnout high, because frankly, both Democratic and Republican turnout will be high because of the gas tax situation. So you can't count on Democrats just kind of sitting back and going, we don't really have many candidates to vote for in Josephine County. Right? That's just our bottom line. Right. And so, how, you know, are the, it's going to be, are the Democrats going to come out and endorse one person? Are the Republicans going to come out and endorse one person? And, you know, so these are all things that we have to wait and see what happens. Yeah. Generally speaking, the county, the Republican parties always talk about, well, we don't endorse in primaries. But that's usually when they're closed primaries. and you have Republicans just battling Republicans in a closed primary, but in Josephine County,

I don't think it would be all that bad of an idea if the party did endorse in this particular case. Yeah, well, you know, in a closed primary, I always said that's a family fight, okay? But no matter what a Republican comes out of it or a Democrat comes out of it or an independent comes out of it or a Green Party candidate comes out of it, somebody comes out of it. But in the jungle primary, the average voter out there is just baffled by who do I vote for. I don't know if they're Republican, Democrat, or whatever. And this is why if they were going to change the charter of Josephine County, go back to being partisan elections. Just be honest about it.

It's always partisan. And the term nonpartisan is just a lie that we tell ourselves and comfort ourselves. So somehow it's cleaner and it's better. No, the nonsense just gets hidden because there's no labels applied to it, all right? I guess that's it. Well, when people ask me whether they're asking me or supposed to me, I just ask them, name one democracy that is nonpartisan. It simply doesn't exist, you know, and pick a tribe.

Pick a tribe. Pick a tribe, stick with it. Thanks, Herman. Yeah. Catch you next week. All right. You'll be well. You take care, Bill.

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