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Kansas - satanic black mass performed outside state capitol, Logan Church from CatholicVote was there - Open for business with Guy Giles from Cornerstone Lending and Lawton Lesueur from Midland Empre Insurance

The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. Kind of weird what happened last Friday in Kansas. And Logan Church, Catholic votes director of political operations is on my program to discuss. The devil went down to Kansas City State Capitol, or Kansas State Capitol. Isn't it? Or Kansas State Capitol, isn't that the case, Logan? Welcome to the program. Hey, yes, and I was there on the ground. It was quite the sight to see. This is the stuff that you read about in headlines and you don't really believe, but let me tell you, it happened.

All right. Now, so a bunch of Catholics got there because they were really upset about a So a bunch of Catholics got there because they were really upset about a black mass and the satanic grotto. What was this all about? Explain what was going on there last Friday. I didn't hear much about it. Yes. So there was a group called the Satanic Grotto that wanted to host a black mass. I don't even like calling it that, but essentially a black mass is where they take the Catholic mass and they do the inversion of all of it. Oh, do they invert the crucifix and all the rest of it? Is that what they do as part of this? The work.

Oh, okay. Yeah. So, their plan was to, and this is a quote from them, to consecrate the Kansas Capitol to Satan. And so, you know, there was a huge push from Catholics and Christians everywhere saying, like, come on, Governor Kelly, don't even let this happen. What are you doing? Sure. This is insane. And she basically said, my hands are tied.

I'm not going to let them inside the Capitol. But you know, they can, they're welcome to gather outside, you know, freedom of religion and whatnot. Okay. Right. I mean, there's so much done past there. Alright, did they end up sacrificing a goat or whatever it was on the grounds? What actually happened? You were there when this was going on. Yeah, so they got together. It was this little rag time group, I mean maybe 20, 30 of them up against 2,000 Christians, which was kind of humorous.

And they screamed a bunch of blasphemies about the Lord, cursed out Christians, and then they started their ritual. Their ritual, like I said, it's like the inversion of the Catholic mass. So they take the readings and they mock the Bible, they mock Christ, you know. When they went to desecrate the Eucharist, he held it up in the air and he was to throw it on the ground. Actually, one of the Catholics,

like, snuck into their group, he was wearing all black. He snuck into their group, dove on the ground to receive the Eucharist, received him and got kicked in the stomach, you know, thronged on the concrete. I mean, what a brave guy for doing that. Okay, and what is the Eucharist again for those that don't know? Yeah, so the Eucharist Catholics believe that the Eucharist is the body of Christ essentially. When he says, this is my body, this is my blood, Catholics take that literally.

And communion wafers, in other words, right? Yes. Yeah. So it's in the content of bread. It's a small little wafer. But this is, as Catholics call it, the source and summit of our faith. So it's a big deal to Catholics. So, I mean, brave of that guy to do that. If you really believe that with your heart, what a beautiful representation of defending your faith. Okay. What were they there for to get Satan's blessing on the Kansas City or Kansas State Capitol? What was their purpose here? They wanted to consecrate the Capitol to Satan. They also said it was like a political statement

of freedom of religion for thee but not for me, that kind of saying that being a Satanist is a religion and they should have the same freedoms as Christians. And they also said it was for the pro-choice movement as well. Oh, okay. So the killing of unborn children. Oh, wonderful. Man, what a bunch of nice people here. I mean, it was a real hoot. I mean, like you looked at a group of people and talk about shells. I mean, it was just shells of people. What is the... So did the, did the government respond correctly?

At first they were going to do the real, the ritual inside, but then the governor pulled back on that, right? So yeah, so for safety reasons, though, in the legislature pushed this as well as they should have. I mean, this group of Satanists, violence, they have their leader actually is restraining orders against him for choking pro-life activists. So, you know, they've been violent in the past. It's not safe to let a group like that into your Capitol, just in general. So they did push back on that. I mean, I think they should have shut it

down completely. But, you know, last year we are, there were a lot of things that were quite interesting, like the Christian groups that came together, they split the permits up. So Christians were split on different lawns around the capital instead of everyone being in one place, which was awfully convenient to make it look like there weren't quite as many of them as there were. which was awfully convenient to make it look like there weren't quite as many of them as there were. And so I thought that was... Oh, I didn't know that you needed a permit to gather on public property. Well, right.

Yeah, isn't that interesting? The people's house. All right. Well, maybe this is about, you know, order, you know, that kind of thing. What do you think? What was the overall reaction from Kansas residents in that area seeing this? They wanted to do a black mask, a mask rather, inside the state capitol. I'm outraged.

I think whether you were Catholic or just, it doesn't matter if you're Catholic, Protestant, you know, just general Christian, people were outraged. And all of the churches, not just the grounds at the Kansas Capitol were filled with Christians, the churches were filled. I mean, like I'm talking Fire Marshall filled. The churches within walking distance of the Capitol, yes. It was beautiful to see. I mean, bittersweet that we had to be there in the first place. Well, yeah, that was good. I'm glad to see someone. You know, I'm just kind of curious. Has the Satanic grotto come out and performed blasphemies against Islam? Do you know?

No, no, not yet. But, you know, they're starting with the Catholic Church, which seems to be a comfortable place for people to attack. You know, and I do think it was a victory, though, in a weird way, because you had 20 ragtag Satanists standing together just cursing Christ, and then you probably had well over 20,000-plus Christians joining together, not just in Kansas, praying that day. I mean, how many people thought they were going to come together this random Friday

in prayer? You know, and so it was a victory for us in the sense of a revival for what we... it's sometimes it takes a little persecution for people to wake up and realize you don't mock something that doesn't have power. Logan Church is with me, director of political operations on at Catholic Vote, Catholic Vote, and is there a possibility though that, as great as it was to see all the Christians show up, that you gave them more oxygen, you gave the Satanists more oxygen by showing up? At least ask the question.

So yeah, there were people who were asking that. On some sense, I suppose, because people like the...it's like the kid that picks on the girl that he likes just to get a reaction. You know, there is something to be said about that, but also at the same time, when you see 20 people up against several thousand, you know, it's like, talk about being out. It gives power. If they try to do this in other areas, I bet you, you're going to see a lot more state government say, well, hold on, we don't, like, we don't want all of that going on at our, at our Capitol. So I do think it actually gives power to the

movement of standing against this type of thing. You try to go to another state, you're going to see governors say, well, maybe she didn't handle that so well, maybe we should do better. Do you think it would be wise when I look at there's arguably been a lot of persecution of Christianity in the United States and state governments everywhere are not particularly friendly. In fact, I have no doubt that, I'm just teasing of course, that that Governor Tina Koteck of Oregon will likely be on a speed dial to the satanic grotto group to see if she could get them to come up to, you know, and give the benediction, if you want to call it that,

to the state of government. I wish I were kidding about that, but I could actually see it happening. That being said though, might Christians need to start taking a page from Islam in the United States? Not talking about their faith, but their willingness to defend their faith because there seems to be a little bit more... You guys showed up. I'm glad that, but there seems to be more of a lay down point of view and like, well, that's okay. Yeah, it's all right.

Beat me up all you want. Discourage me all you want. That's all right. I'm fine. This is good, etc. That kind of thing. Well, I think that to be fair, from a Christian perspective, there is the whole, we know who won the war. We know who has the victory in the end, so say what you want.

There is a lot of that mentality in the church, but I do agree with you. As we see more persecution happen, I mean, you look in countries like Africa, you look over there where persecution, Christian persecutions, are at an all-time high. I'm talking people being drug out of their churches and killed. Yeah, killed, decapitated. Yeah, it's a serious thing. Do you know who has the highest conversion rate out of any country? Africa.

You know why? Because people see that this is something worth dying for. And so I think that we could have a little bit of that in the United States, maybe not the decapitation, but the zealous attitude for the church, for Christ. And if you believe this with your whole body, then you should behave as such. And so I think the more pressure they put on the church,

the more we're going to wake up. All right. So it was about 20 ragtag Satanists there. Probably didn't make any conversions there or didn't convert many people, we hope, right? I can't imagine screaming the F-word about Christ is going to convert many people. But I do know that it was so beautiful watching. There was a group there called Feel the Hood, and it was beautiful watching them. I mean, talk about some of the toughest people I've ever met in that crowd, praying for the conversion of them. Logan, the one thing I will say though is that I'm not one of those individuals who will, hey, it's just a bunch of

Satanists and they don't really have any power. I think there is real power in what the Satanists try to do. And I'm glad that it wasn't just allowed to just go past without an, oh, it's just they're just believing their thing and we're believing our thing. We're all going to get along. No. OK, I'm glad that that you didn't all take it lying down on this one. OK, I really am. No room for the lukewarm. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm glad that you didn't all take it lying down on this one. Okay? I really am. No room for the lukewarm.

Yeah, exactly. I think we're in a time now where there is very little room for lukewarm in such a spiritual matters, just saying. Okay? I appreciate you coming on and explaining what happened here. And where can people go and find out more about Catholic vote? No doubt yet. Catholic vote, you can find us online at catholicvote.org or on social media under Catholic Vote. That's one word. We get involved on state

and federal issues with legislation, you know, and also with just events like this encouraging Catholics to use their voice in the public square. So if that's something you're interested in, check us out. Okay. Is Catholic Vote kind of recalibrating after the Roe v. Wade taking down and kind of returning to the states, or is the battle just the battleground just shifting in your view? How do you see it? So actually we're just growing as an org. So we're the largest group of Catholic lay activists who are involved in the public square, and so our group has just continued to grow. So we're still involved in the federal level, because there's tons of...we're not just a pro-life group. If the church has a stance on it,

so do we. But we've expanded to be able to get involved in the states as well. Does it have a take, Catholic vote, that is? Does it have a take on the Catholic Charities role in enabling so much illegal immigration in the state? Could you comment on that, or do you not get into that? So I would say this Catholic Charities on the local level they do a lot of good work in communities. I mean if you look I would just encourage people to look at what their Catholic Charities are spending their money on and where that money is going and so you know I think with a lot of the funding that was kind of on the federal level we're gonna see some shifts with what they're doing but as

far as local Catholic Charities concerned, when they're helping homeless shelters and victims of violence and women and children, I'm all for that. I think that's the work that they should be doing. I get that, but I do have a thing as a national force that has been a business model to help enable the invasion in some cases. That's been my opinion. I don't know if that's yours or not. So I would say, you know, Catholic vote has a lot of stances on immigration. We're a big pro-legal immigration group. We think that you should be able to immigrate here to the United States to live the American dream legally.

All right. Appreciate the call. Good talking with you and good work out there. Not just sitting around and taking it okay you'd be well absolutely all right thanks again you'll see us in Oregon next oh I have no doubt I'm hoping that does satanic grotto group doesn't show up but like I said I wouldn't be surprised if if some leftist doesn't invite them you know for inclusiveness we'll talk to you a little we'll talk with you later Logan thanks again okay thanks so much all right yeah All right. Yeah crazy world, huh? 827 at KMED. This is the Bill Meyer show ready to upgrade your roof to a durable sleek metal option

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Southern Oregon's place to talk. Not now, but in a few minutes we are going to have the Diner 62 real American quiz and you can try those crispy chicken sandwiches and the big burgers and all that good stuff in a few minutes. I'll tell you when to call. Okay. Just want to give you a heads up on that. Jerry is on the road. Jerry, you're an Eagle point. You have a pebble in your shoe about the VA. Go ahead, please. Yeah, we've got all these nice, beautiful buildings out here at the dawn and we haven't got any doctors out there. We've got the fishes assistance. We have nurse practitioners and buildings out here at the Dome and we for over since 1998 and I am actually with the outside doctors in the system. But if my doctor orders a prescription and it's not in the VA formulary, then they

take their time and send a letter back to my doctor saying that the prescription isn't in the formulary. Well, their letter has to go up to Portland. Then it's sent from Portland back to the doctor. So five, six days of just mailing back and forth each time, right? Yeah. And then he's got to send a letter which goes back or prescription back. Now, Jerry, I'm going to interject here if you don't mind me asking.

Has the VA ever heard of email with a doctor? No, they have never heard. And I don't think they know how to use a phone. Okay. But the point I'm trying to make though is also I've got a friend that he has a physician's assistant there. He made a phone call on the 20th to the pharmacy and said he was out of a prescription for them to please contact the physician's assistant there to get a new prescription. He called in yesterday to see, he did it on the 20th, he asked the pharmacy yesterday did they get the prescription so he could come in today and get it? They said no. The physician's assistant hadn't updated the prescription so they're still waiting.

And today is the first. That's 11 days. Yeah. Yeah. And are you out of your medicine right now, Jerry? Yeah, I am. Oh. And he is. And the physician's assistant is there at the dom, just downstairs. The system does not work. They need, I used to, before,

was able to get right to Tri-West directly between my physician and Tri-West to be able to get my medications directly. So they need to go back to the way it was, get rid of the system, let the mental health, the state mental health have the VA. They could have all those buildings, they could take care of our mental system that way and let us do with the doctors like Medicare, go to Walmart, get our medications directly and all that. And the system would be cheaper and it would be quicker and it'd be easier. Could you suggest that to Cliff

Bents? Could you get in touch with Congressman Cliff Bents with your experience and suggest that? Because I know that DOGE wants to turn its attention to the VA and increase the efficiency that could help. Now, as far as seeing physician assistants instead of doctors, gosh, Jerry, that's kind of the way of the world right now. I consider him my primary physician, my imaginary friend. I think I get to see him once a year, and it's usually all sorts of other PAs and other folks until that time. So I feel your pain on that one. But get in touch with Congressman Benson, see if he can pull a string or two on that. Appreciate the call. Let me go to the next one on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning. This is Jared. Hi, Jared. Today, your discussion about

faith reminded me that most of the religious discussions going on here are most people who don't know the difference between faith and religion. There really is a huge difference. If your faith is what you believe, religion is what you do. Well, religion is the structure, I suppose, of the bureaucracy. Is that a fair way of putting it, maybe? No, it's your day-to-day life. It's what you do when you step out the door of your house. No, it's your day-to-day life. It's what you do when you step out the door of your house. You are living your religion and your actions are dictated by that. Back in the 1700s when our country was founded, we had a slightly different vision of religion.

The common working man on the street religion definition was the ways and means by which one meets their duties and obligations to their God and Savior according to the dictates of their own conscience. That's what they viewed as religion. Satanism didn't have a God and Savior. They were a real religion. Satanism didn't have a god and savior, they wanted a real religion. That can be said for Islam and a lot of the great religions in the world. Yeah, do what thou wilt, in other words.

Well, the laws, they didn't have to pass laws. Well, they could have church in the White House. They did that for dozens of years. It wasn't considered a blending of church and state. Well, separation of church and state is actually a false creation. It was about not having a state religion or a state church, such as England. Though when the first church was founded, the thirteen colonies, I think it was nine of them, had state religions. Because it was all the same faith, just different religions of ways of going about leaving out

your faith. Yeah, variations of that. Do you think that we could actually have the United States with state religions as far as actually state religions? I mean, in Oregon, you can imagine what the state religion would be here. Well, I think the state religion is already in place and in power. It is the cult of environmentalism, no, of Gaia. You're confusing faith and religion again.

Oh, okay. Well they're certainly behaving with their, the tenets of their faith and they believe it and they practice it, do they not? Yeah, that's the religion. Okay. You know, the wall between the church and the state used to be that the state would they believe it and they practice it, do they not? Yeah, that's the religion. Okay. The wall between the church and the state used to be that the state would defend the borders, do the interstate commerce, and the church would do the health and welfare of the people.

Well, I guess with the reduction in power of the churches and of religion in general, if you want to say it, that then the state filled the vacuum. Appreciate the call. Thank you for that. 770-5633. Hi, good morning. Hey, good morning, Bill. This is Michael. Hi, Michael. Are you aware of the recent bee die-off? I've heard rumors. Some people are telling me the bees were recovering. Other people are saying, oh, it's dead again. It's the bee mites. Other people are saying it's Wi-Fi. I hear all sorts of things. It hasn't been in my wheelhouse, I guess, really, but tell me what you have. Last January, the FDA approved an mRNA vaccine for bees. I don't know where they get the syringes that small, but no, not really.

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Right now it is open for business, and every couple of weeks we're talking with more of Lisa Kelly's, I don't want to call it brood, but needless to say Network in Action has just been exploding in popularity and it's a business opportunity. A lot of businesses come in. It's a different kind of Network in Action. And by the way, they have some events coming up here I wanted to make sure that you knew about. Lisa's out of town today, so she wasn't present. But coming up next Tuesday,

there's going to be an open house at BBSI Metford, the Christian group having a visitor's day there. If you haven't been a visitor before and you're a Christ-centered business, you're welcome to attend. Now next Wednesday, the grants pass group, 3.30 to 5 at Taprock Northwest Grill. And if you haven't been a visitor,

a business professional, you can come to that. Just a regular group, not the Christian group. But Thursday, April 10th, 3.30 to 5 o'clock, the Medford Group is putting on Network in Action, and they welcome you over at Oregon Pacific Financial Advisors in Medford. Regular group here too. Now, the folks we have in this morning that have joined Network in Action and wanted to

get a little bit of their take on it's always interesting, Lawton Lussour from Midland Empire Insurance. How you doing this morning Lawton? Doing very good, thank you. Now I'm very sorry that you were so tall you're out of the Facebook Live shot but good-looking guy here. Hey tell us a little bit about what Network in Action has done for you and about your business too, if you don't mind. Yeah, for sure. It's just a really great group of people who are engaged in their business and what they do and it's a really great way to meet people who you want to work with and pass referrals and you know it's almost like a second family at this

point. You know, you get in, you give hugs, it's great. Well, it's kind of funny that you talk about the family thing because you already are a family insurance agency, right? Correct, yes. Tell me, what kind of lines do you cover and what do you do? Are people saying, Lawton saved me from the fire map issue or what? What's going on with that? In some scenarios, I'm sure they are. Yeah, so we're in Klamath Falls and Grants Pass. I'm in the Grants Pass office, but we do home, auto, business, agriculture, a little bit of life insurance, and a little bit of health. Are things starting to calm down a little bit, especially when it comes to the home and fire insurance kind of deal? Because a year ago, I swear it was almost panic

on the streets when it came to getting this. What would you say? Yeah, I think you're right. It is starting to come back around a little bit. Some of the companies that really locked up and didn't want to write new business because of the fire issue are now doing a little bit more than they were a year ago. So that's promising. Of course, maybe a ton of rain over the winter helps. Okay, we'll come back into Oregon. Yeah, maybe. Maybe all your rain would be good too. Yeah, you wonder. Hey, so what, how can people get in touch with you? Like you said, there's a Klamath Falls office and a Grants Pass office. So, right. Yeah, the best way would be to hop on the website or get our

phone number off of Google and just give us a call. And, you know, if you want to ask for me, just ask it, pass through my voicemail. If I'm not available, I'll talk to you. All right, very good. And you'll give a quote and do all that other kind of good work. Yeah, that's what we do. All right, very good. And that's Lawton Lasseur, Midland Empire Insurance. Now, Guy Giles is here with me, and he's from Cornerstone Mortgage. And the dog that I had in the fight is that I refinanced with you

about three, four years ago. Yeah, that was good to get to know you. Yeah, well, I really appreciate the fact that, you know, I ended up saving a lot of money, refinancing it about 3%, maybe 3.1%. And then, of course, you know what's happening now, hold on for dear life. Yes, it's been a lot of fun. But I think they're coming back around finally. We'll have to see how a lot of these jobs numbers come out.

Yeah, trying to guess where the interest rates are going is a bit of an art at the moment. Yeah, I kind of gave up on that a little while back. And the feds, they were way too slow to raise rates. And I think they had been a little bit slow to lower them. And we'll have to see now. Some of what they're doing makes sense. But it's kind of hit and miss with those guys and gals. Are there any kind of new products within the mortgage world that are helping people

get into homes that otherwise may have a challenge? I don't know if you can speak to that or not. Yeah, I think the biggest thing, first of all, don't get scared that we're going back to the stated mortgages that crashed everything in 2009. In which you had a pulse and here's your mortgage. Yes, or even somebody that could fog a mirror for you, You get a co-fogger or something. It was pretty bad for a while. The co-fogger. But at this point we're doing a lot of bank statement loans, DSCR loans. For self-employed people, you know, we can

look at your bank statements. It is always a challenge if you're self-employed, right? But it's getting a lot easier. Yes, it can be, because you're walking that fine line between trying not to pay too much in taxes where you can take advantage of some of the write-offs you have and then still showing a profit. And that's why we've come out with the bank statement loans. So we're just looking at your funds going into the bank. And don't worry, we're not going back to that loose lending. But really what stated loans were for originally, and that was for self-employed people. So you can buy investment properties now that just kind of stand on their own.

So if they'll pay for themselves, worst case scenario, you just made the down payment for the bank if you lose it. Yeah, cash flowing property is fine, right? Yeah. So I think that's the big thing is that a lot of people that are self-employed think that they're still not able to loan. And Guy, how can the folks get ahold of you?

My cell phone number is 541-944-6987, and some in church I answer. All right. You put it on buzz in church, right? Yes. OK. Hey, tell us a little bit, though, how network and action helped you.

I always put people on the spot. Because normally when people hear, you remember the old ways people would look at Lawton and Guy of networking in which you come in, oh, you showed up in the newspaper, and then all of a sudden, you know, you're paying a hundred dollar fine or, you know, whatever, things were good to you. I mean, God bless you if you're, you know, doing that kind of stuff. This is a little different, right? It is. I'd visited a couple places and they're like, you have to give so many referrals. Well, I will take one good referral over a hundred bad ones all day long because you're just weeding

through that stuff. And I, they get to know each other with the questions. I mean, I've never met anybody like Lisa before. I mean, literally, she just gets it. Hey, she's scooping up on you folks like crazy around here. Yes. Yeah. In a good way. I mean, a lot of times she's like, She just gets it. She's scooping up on you folks like crazy around here. In a good way. I mean, I'm not saying that she's like... Ah ha ha ha. I can't say enough about what she's put together down here.

And it's useful the way that she does it. Who's it for, you think? What type of a business person is it for? Because I know that each of those groups, it's like you'll be the only mortgage person in your particular group, and Lawton will be the only insurance person in his particular group.

But how do you know this is right for you? I think if it's somebody that's into relationships and you just want to go deeper with people, I mean it's just a whole lot easier to refer somebody. Like I've been listening to you forever. I would recommend you to anybody in the world. That's from years of knowing you personally and knowing you from hearing you on the radio. That's kind of what this group gets to is just the heart of who people are, why they do their business. And we see a lot of reoccurring themes in there. You just want to grow a good honest business.

Great vetting too. You know you're working among people who are honest to a fault, I guess, would be a good way of putting it. Do you agree with that a lot, I guess, would be a good way of putting it. Do you agree with that, Lawton, I guess, overall? Oh, yeah, 100%. That take on it? Yeah. Hey, well, I appreciate you coming in and being put on the spot a little bit and talking about your business information. I'll get that all up on KM&E.com.

And I guess you'll be all part of visitors' days. Yes. Yeah, come check it out. Okay. And if you want to get in touch with Lisa Kelly, I will put her contact information on my blog post for today, too. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Thank you for having us. Great and great seeing you both here.

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