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Episode Date: April 3, 2026

Private Investigator NILS GREVILLIUS, author of THE LAST LAWMEN, gives his take on the story coming out that the bullet doesn't match the rifle in the Charlie Kirk Murder, open phones and more follow....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. 106.3K.M.D., 993KBXG, the Bill Meyer Show. And yes, we are bringing him back on. Nils Gravilius, crime expert author, U.S. Army veteran, L.A. based private investigator, author of The Last Lawman. more than 30 years of experience.
Starting point is 00:00:30 It's worked all sorts of complex cases. Nils, it's great to have you back. Welcome, sir. Well, I... Things are just fine, other than the fact that we're controlled by communists. Other than that, we're doing just fine. But, you know... Well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I think that some of your listeners may have fallen prey to a communist siop. Being launched by men like Nick Quintes. Oh, so this is... digging right into the Charlie Kirk assassination, right? That is correct. He is one of the men spreading the absurdity that Israel was behind this. Him and Candace Owens and a few other paranoid lunatics. They are grabbing a hold of the filings of Mr. Robinson's defense counsel.
Starting point is 00:01:25 There is a filing the other day that said, that the bullet could not be matched to Tyler Robinson's rifle, which is not what the ATF man said. The ATF man said that the test was inconclusive, and they are doing other tests. Ah, so that does not mean it doesn't match then? That is correct. Okay. That's not, but that's what the headlines ended up saying, right? Well, yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:01:56 They're posting clickbait, and men like Fuentes and Candice Owens, that sort of thing, are just amplifying the pleadings of Mr. Robinson's defense counsel. And the defense counsel, they're doing their job. This is what they're supposed to do. If they don't raise the issue now, they can't use it on appeal later after he's convicted, which is almost certainly what's going to happen. You had said that the people who have fallen for a lot of the theories about Charlie Kirk's death are, such as that Israel could have been connected with it. I know that's a very common conspiracy theory, which has been brought out about that. One could make the case, though, that when it comes to Key Bono, who would benefit from Charlie Kirk's death, it would appear to be Israel, given that Charlie was starting to become quite noisy about questioning his support.
Starting point is 00:02:51 court for Israel. So would that not be something you would at least want to look at? Well, that's highly circumstantial. Why look at that when you have so many other things pointing to Tyler Robinson who has zero ties to Israel? He's a Mormon kid from suburban Utah. It was his rifle, his communications to his boyfriend. And he said he did it, right? Yeah. Yes, of course. Why should I listen to all this? left-wing SIE-op coming out of Nick Fentes. Nick Fentez has said from the start, his purpose is to divide the right, not to divide the left. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Nils, what about to, I'm going to engage in a little bit of what aboutism, all right? Because the one part of the Charlie Kirk assassination, this is the only part that makes no sense to me, because I like to shoot guns. I've shot 30-ought-6s quite often. Now, I've not shot them at anybody's neck, nothing like that. But the one thing I do know is that when that round strikes something, it pretty much obliterates it or it might punch through if it was a clean ability. But, you know, the idea that some bullet was just, you know, found in his neck just doesn't make sense to me. And I'm sure you being in the military have shot 30-odd-6s too at one point. to another.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Well, let's talk about the 30-0-6. It's one of the most powerful military rifle cartridges ever made. Absolutely. In fact, the steel core version, the black-tip armor-piercing ammo, will go through four and a half inches of reinforced concrete at 500 meters and keep on cooking, Mr. Meyer. Yes. So the soft top-tip hunting ammunition,
Starting point is 00:04:48 which is what I believe Mr. Robinson was using, that day is designed to expand and to expend all of its energy inside the target without passing through. Agreed. But even then, there has to be a certain amount of hydrostatic, I think, resistance of some sort. And the neck in that particular fleshy area, unless you're striking the bone, would not appear to be providing a lot of resistance.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Am I wrong in assuming that? I'm not a ballistics expert, but I know that you study this more than I do. The best ballistic world can't predict what a bullet is going to do perfectly once it strikes an object. What if it hits the governor of Texas after hitting the president of the United States? And then we've got... Oh, yeah, and it's found in the stretcher in pristine condition. Well, you know, that's a six-and-a-half-millimeter bullet. with great sectional cross-density with a history of bouncing off of solid objects, the Italian
Starting point is 00:05:58 Carcano cartridge was designed to destroy men, not material. That's a big difference between the carcano cartridge and the caliber 30, 1906. So to say that the bullet cannot do this or must do that is malpractice if one is actually an expert. Well, I wasn't saying that it couldn't. I'm just saying the probability just seems a little slim, slim, that it would do that little damage, frankly, to Charlie's throat. That's the part that... Let me reduce it to something else. Okay. 1991, I had a case in Tunga, California, where a biker was shot in the back four times,
Starting point is 00:06:41 four through and through gunshot wounds with a 380 automatic. All four rounds passed completely through his torso. So one of the weakest pistol cartridges ever made. And he got up and walked out of the hospital five days later. Okay. But, you know, we're not talking about a 380. We're not talking about 380. We're talking about 30 out six.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Correct. You cannot predict what it's going to do once it strikes a solid object. And if you look at the autopsy results for Charlie Kirk, you're going to see great trauma to his body from that cartridge. Great trauma. From the hydrostatic pressure, the pressure that is created from the object striking? When I saw the fountain of blood coming out of his neck, I knew he was a dead map. Oh, I think we all did when we saw that.
Starting point is 00:07:38 At least I did. Well, there were many people saying that he was still alive. I mean, within, you know, 10 minutes of that being posted on the Internet, I knew he was dead. So, yes, great trauma was visited on his body by that cartridge, and I don't have any doubt it was a 30-od-6. I remember sitting there at my lunch watching this on my phone, and I knew it was a high-velocity rifle cartridge. I just didn't know which one. So my way of looking at it, saying that there wasn't enough damage is in error, in your opinion then. Okay. It could be, let's let's have the evidence out at trial.
Starting point is 00:08:18 It's not as if they're not going to put it on full display when Tyler Robinson goes on trial for his life, Bill. Yeah, this is true. And so what you are saying, though, is that the bullet not matching, that's not the same. That's a different claim than what the ATF guy actually said, which was inconclusive. That's the takeaway. This is the money quote, really, from that statement. That is correct. and you're going to see a whole series of filings like this.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You're going to see lots of filings from defense counsel trying to knock out the communications between Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend. I know it sounded a little weird, wouldn't you agree? Kind of the way that that conversation went? Well, I don't have sex with men who dress like women, so I don't know, Mr. Meyer. They're deeply in love. Hey, there's the quote of the day right now. Yeah, print that one, Scoo of Steve.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You've got a fellow who's next door in the other studio here. Nils, we'll take that to the bank, okay? I appreciate your take on that particular issue, all right? Hey, tell me a little bit about... Go ahead. Please complete your thought, then I'll continue. No, go ahead. You ask your question, Mr. Miles.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Standing here in the batting cage, waiting to knock it out of the park. Waiting to knock another softball. All right. So, Mr. Gravilius, all right? Tell us a bit about the last lawman because I ordered a, I preordered a copy of your book. When is it going to come out because you got a million of these stories, don't you? Well, it's out June the 9th. It starts delivering from Post Hill Press.
Starting point is 00:10:03 It is 300 pages of how it is that I found myself working as a private detective. My time in the Pinkerton Service, I was doing industrial undercover. work, protective assignments, things like that, lots of surveillance work in the Pinkertons and Army Counterintelligence. And then I went out on my own. I did an interview for a job, a loss prevention job with an outfit that would put men undercover in warehouses looking for men stealing off the loading docks and out of cargo, that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And the man told me I had no future as a private detective. He was a retired sheriff's deputy, a harness bull in a sweaty Guaya Barra shirt. And he said to me, you don't speak no Spanish. You have no future in this business. Why don't you go get yourself a real job or something, man? That was in, I think, 1987 right after I got out of the Army. Yeah. And then you went and opened up your own shop, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Not only that, I occupied the offices he had once held. in the same building, the Scandia building in Pasadena, which I come to call the scandalous building for various reasons. But yeah, that's how things work out. If you stay at it, you'll discover that there are people who need help and the government has failed them. You go to the police to report that your employee has embezzled a million dollars from your company, and the cop at the counter says to you, sounds like a civil issue to me
Starting point is 00:11:42 and closes the books on it immediately because they want to keep their statistics down. Boy, how often I've heard those kind of stories, Nils, truly. Well, they're under heavy political pressure from the men in skirts and suits to not take in cases. Why work? You know, you can't blame the boys in blue, blame the people that we elect the public office. Fair enough. By the way, you actually do have a bona fide, service. It is gravilius p.i.com. And so do you spend most of your time writing or are you still
Starting point is 00:12:19 doing a lot of footwork, so to speak, and, you know, gum shoe investigation? Running and gunning on the streets of Los Angeles and other places, occasionally Oregon, all the time. I do very little writing. I sat writing that book in a hotel room in New York City after John commonly died. I was at his funeral. He's the man who wrote filthy rich, that book about Epstein. In 2022, I got permanent banned from social media for my stochastic terrorism. And at the funeral mass of John Connolly at St. Vincent Ferrer in New York City, I said to myself, I'm going to write my book, damn it. And that's what I did. I started writing that night in the hotel at the New York Athletic Club. Now, this is a different John Connolly,
Starting point is 00:13:09 not the John Connolly of the JFK assassination? No, no, that was John Connolly, the governor of Texas. Of Texas, yeah. John Connolly, who was a corrupt FBI agent who was mobbed up with Whitey Bolger. This is the man who was with New York Police Department's organized crime squad, hired by Graydon Carter at Spy Magazine, and I think in 1985, great man. He was like my Gaelic rabbi, Mr. Meyer.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Very good. Nils, I always appreciate your insight on this, and I will take your advice on how to interpret the ballistic story here with the Charlie Kirk murder. Okay? Thank you so much. Well, just to pay it. There'll be more of it. It'll be entertaining. Take care of Mr. Ma.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Be safe in Oregon. Indeed, we shall. And once again, I will link to your book. And once again, it is the last lawman will be coming out in early June. And I have no doubt it will be a fascinating read. Thank you, Nils. Be well. Thank you, Mr.
Starting point is 00:14:07 My, take care. Nils Gravilius. It's 826. And drinks, pains, and sub 1.8594. This is the Bill Meyer show on 1063 KMED. Call Bill now. 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I don't have sex with women. No, I don't have sex with men and dress up like women. Wasn't that the quote? Nils Gravilius. He certainly has a way with words. I don't know. He's not thinking it's all that big of a deal, that ballistic report with the Charlie Kirk assassination, that saying that it is inconclusive is not the same as saying that it did not match
Starting point is 00:14:55 and that there are going to be additional tests made. Logan, you have a take on that. You're not real happy with Nils, huh? Well, if that guy is an expert, then I'm the Pope. I just can't, I mean, I've shot personally thousands and thousands of aught six rounds. And 30-od, that's 30-a-6. Yeah, 30-odd-6. No, I figure that's what you meant, sure.
Starting point is 00:15:22 It's, he, when a bullet leaves, there's no questioning what it can do. You know, I don't know who he's working for or who's paying his salary, but they should rethink their strategy. It just, yeah, it's. No, he's an independent, though. He's always been an independent, though, just so you know. Well, somebody's paying him. So that's your conspiracy theory that Nils is being paid. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Well, I don't know. You agree with me, Bill. You shot more out six rounds than probably, I mean, I've thousands, thousands of... Yeah, for me, it's maybe hundreds, but not thousands, but I shot it enough to think that, you know, that hitting the neck, it didn't make sense to me from a ballistic standpoint. But I know that bullets can do strange things. So I'm always open to the possibility of weird things can go on that I don't expect. All right. So I don't want to just to be completely in the tank in one direction or another on this one, Logan.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It's kind of how I'm looking at it. Fair enough. I just encourage people to maybe consult a different expert, you know. Okay. All right. Logan, I appreciate the call. Open phones here on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. You can have added anything on your mind.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It doesn't have to be this conspiracy. It could be another one. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. Hi. Hey, I didn't get there.
Starting point is 00:16:41 A little noise. But anyway, yeah, I kind of agree with the last caller. You know, the guy, who is the guy that said about an hour after it happened? It wasn't us. And, you know. Well, yeah, I know that Netanyahu felt the need to go on and say that we had nothing to do with this. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean, what is the hardening of the arteries?
Starting point is 00:17:05 maybe cause the ground to get stopped in the neck or high blood content of iron or something. I don't know. That would have to be a hellaciously hard artery to stop that. But like I said, you know, weird things, I have seen weird things done with small caliber bullets and with large, but generally speaking with a large high-power caliber bullet, it is pretty good at just obliterating someone's neck, just like it's very good at punching holes in Transformers, let's say, that Pacific Power has out of the Applegate, right? You know, that story that came out. Yeah. Hey, Bill, I got a quote I'd like to read from 1990 Jerusalem
Starting point is 00:17:47 Post of one of these great people. It says, if we get caught, they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it doesn't matter what we do. America is a golden calf, and we will suck it dry, chop it up and sell it off, piece by piece, until there is nothing left but the world's biggest welfare state that we will create and control. Why? Because it's God's will, and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. That is why we do to countries what we hate, that we hate, we destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be are slaves. Now, who was that? I don't know this quote, but
Starting point is 00:18:32 something tells me you're going to tell me since this is conspiracy theory Thursday. Go ahead. I wouldn't dare. You wouldn't tell me who the quote's from? It's definitely not our greatest ally, but that's all I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:18:49 All right. I appreciate the call, as always. All comers here, 7705-633-770KMED. Whatever happens to be on your mind. this morning does not have to be about Charlie Kirk and frankly, I hope it's not just about Charlie Kirk, but we'll tell you more coming up. It's not all about you when it comes to your well water quality. There's a lot going on. Big fire resistant roof. Call Fontana Roofing's metal roof division. Visit fontanarrufingservices.com.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You're here in the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Happy to take your crazy wild conspiracy theory Thursday calls. It's okay. 7705-633. Just be polite. All I can say. All right. You don't want to. You know, we're small town friendly, but we, you know, we will entertain the weirdness.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's okay. Dawn, good to have you here. Hello, Dawn. It's on your mind. Hi, Bill. Well, the quote that was just referenced was supposedly made by Benjamin Netanyahu. That America is a golden calf. We'll suck it up, suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it.
Starting point is 00:19:58 off piece by piece until there's nothing left. Yeah, is that actually confirmed or something which just makes the rounds of the Internet done? I'm always careful because there's so much fake and slop these days. I would want to be very clear about that. Well, as usual, you're right on. There's conflicting evidence that that was ever said by Netanyahu, but yeah, quite controversial. Yeah, okay. It's sure renewed as the personal piggy bank.
Starting point is 00:20:31 So I would like that to end. Yeah. And I hope he didn't say that. All right. I'm just going to say that right now. All right, because we sure do, we do a lot of work together, that's for sure. Don, thanks for the call. 770563.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Hello, KMED. This is Conspiracy Theory Thursday Line. Who's this? Morning. This is Richard from Sam's Valley. Richard, Sam's Valley. Take it away. What's on your mind?
Starting point is 00:20:54 I just wanted to add my two cents to the... 30-0-06 controversy. I haven't shot thousands and thousands of rounds of 30-od-6, but I've shot thousands and thousands of ammunition. I started hunting probably the late 60s. And one of the things that I know from shooting dozens and dozens of deer and antelope is that you never know what's going to happen to that bullet. You just don't. I'm sorry. So that's to Nils' point, what he was talking about a little bit earlier, that predicting trajectory in the damage and et cetera. Have you seen them do weird things then? I've seen so many weird things. I could probably spend a half an hour talking about them.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know, they all sound like C stories, but I personally have seen them happen. You know, I just have. And consequently, I mean, I don't know for sure. I did see the video of Charlie getting shot. I can perfectly believe that it was a 30-od six. You can't. All right, because I, and I looked at the same video, and I'm thinking, like, hey, that couldn't be a 30-od-6. It looked, you know, I would have thought that his throat would have been gone unless it had just clipped, you know, like a little skin on the side. But, you know, supposedly it penetrated. Like I said, I've seen a lot of different kinds of, I've seen deer shot in a lot of different places.
Starting point is 00:22:17 And the deer's about the same size of the human. And I've seen all, I've just seen them do all kinds of things. So, you know, very conclusive about it, can't do that. I would never say something like that. Got it. I appreciate your opinion. Thank you very much, already. You bet.
Starting point is 00:22:33 All right. 770KMED on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Good morning. Hi. This is Minor Dave. Hello, Dave. I wanted to say is we had a 308 when I was a kid, which is similar to a 306. And my dad said if we're going out in target practice, and we use target rounds that are,
Starting point is 00:22:53 reduced in power because they're cheaper. You can buy reduced target rounds for a 30-od six. Anybody think that maybe that's what they used is a target round? I don't think they did. It did appear to be a hunting round because there were some rounds available still, you know, from the crime scene supposedly. Right. Well, did he load his own ammunition?
Starting point is 00:23:17 I can't answer that. If he could dial it in. Yeah, it could be. Could be. All right. Thanks, Dave. another way of looking at that on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi, good morning.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Who's this? Hey, Bill. Todd and Central Point. Hi, Todd. Your previous caller, I kind of agree with him. You never know what a bullet's going to do. I was an armor for my department. And I can remember, I won't be too graphic, but I had to respond to a suicide.
Starting point is 00:23:43 And the person committed suicide with a 357 magnum, GP-100 Ruger. Boy, that's a nice pistol to do it with. Yeah, it would be pretty effective, right? 357 round, you would think. Well, and again, I promise I won't be too graphic. He put the gun right up against his right temple, and it was a semi-jacketed hollow point, and there was, it wasn't an explosion.
Starting point is 00:24:14 There wasn't blood all over the place. Really? His eyes were not bulged. It was just the powder burn right against his temple. It was a contact. shot. And so you would think you would have a far more dramatic effect. Yeah, more gruesome, sure. Yeah. It definitely did the job, but it, yeah, you just never know what a bullet's going to do. And we used to do demonstrations at our range all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And, you know, we would do it on bottles and clay and bulletproof vests to show the effects. and you just never knew how bullets skip and disperse their energy. So your previous caller is absolutely correct. You just never know what it's going to do. And it will all come out in the court. They'll have forensics people, you know, tear it apart. Because I've tended to be one of those guys that, unless there's really, really super high evidence, that I'm thinking this could be, you know, it's, well, a cigar is just a cigar,
Starting point is 00:25:16 and it could be just the way it appears to be. But the video and the damage from supposedly a 30-odd-6 was the part that did bother me, from my experience having shot the 30-od-6. But that's good. It's good to know that other people have not had the same all the time. Okay, it'll come out. All right. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:25:35 You know, I wanted to tell you before you took off, Todd, there was one case that I read about that fascinated me about, to your point, about bullets can do strange things when you, that you, that you, you don't think it happened. I read a story one time years ago, and I forget where I read it, but it had to do with a guy also trying to commit suicide with a pistol, and he put it right in the center of his forehead to fire instead of like to the side of his forehead. So it was right in the center, and the round ended up piercing his forehead and kind of went down the split halves of the brain, you know, the right and the left hemisphere of that.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And, you know, and of course, really damaged his skull, came out the backside. The guy lived, and it was just, was fine. He ended up recovering completely after doing something like that. And you would think, how could that be with that round going through your brain? But it just happened to do it that way. And again, this is just anecdotal. I used to have a shop next door to a jewelry store. while I was in my shop, it was held up.
Starting point is 00:26:46 The guy wasn't, the poor guy behind the counter wasn't moving fast enough. The bad guy had a 45 ACP pistol, and from two feet away shot him right in the forehead. It glanced off of his forehead, and he lived. He was fine. You never know. Man, talk about a hard-headed guy, huh? Jeez. In a good way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Thanks for the call. I appreciate that. Good conversation. Hi, this is Bill. Good morning on KMED. Good morning. See, I guess this was a slight change of subject. Sure, go ahead. That's all right. It's all right. We're about to celebrate the 250th anniversary of our war with the forces of Islam in the Middle East. George Washington was astounded that the day he took office, they were at war with us. And he sent people to find out why Thomas and Jefferson being among them. and Thomas Jefferson got the Quran and read it and took it back to George Washington and said,
Starting point is 00:27:46 this is why they're worried it with us. And it's still going on. It's either hotter or cooler, depending on the time, right? Yeah. This faces may change, but the Koran still is what they're fighting over. And, you know, that's not going to stop this week or next week or next year. I appreciate it. I appreciate your call, and thank you very much for making it.
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Starting point is 00:29:49 Okay, well, watch the, of the numerous, or ceaseless lies, what are the biggest ones to you then? Give me one or two, because I just, I don't have a lot of time, and everyone's here to call to, all right? Well, everything from our history to scientism, but as far as this situation, you know, you mentioned yourself that, you know, U.S. and Israel created Hamas and,
Starting point is 00:30:10 and massad. And it's just now, JP reported some whistleblowers, Jewish whistleblowers, said that Netanyahu was feeding Hamas $35 million a month. 35 million. So creating your own enemy, so to speak? Pardon? Creating your own enemy is what you're implying then.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah, right? And we know that, you know, my boyfriend's a former sheriff, And he watched the whole thing. How does a bullet and the blood splatter move all around? And there's a ton of blood. There was no blood when they took them to the car. There was all these things that they didn't do right. It was totally fake.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It was like some of the other things could have been actually a holographic image of the crowd because the people there said there was something else happening. All right. Well, I don't. I'm not with you on that, though. I'm not with you yet. I think I'm going to hold my fire, no pun intended, until I want to say the trial, because, you know, if it is as weird as you're saying it is, I would say that the defense attorney
Starting point is 00:31:20 is going to be able to pick that apart, okay? Appreciate the call, though, Lucretia, 770KMED. It is 851. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Terry Jojo. Terry Cherry's Joe. Oh, hello, Joe.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Great to have you. You're a very patient man, by the way, I'm sure. Oh, thank you. I just have this real quick saying that when the few abuse the rights, we all lose our rights. It just seems like, you know, when few people do stuff, then they make up these laws, and then they encroach upon our freedoms. And it just seems, you know, I don't know. Well, we always have to be careful, Joe, when we say, you know, we need a law to do this, right? You got to smack somebody, right?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Is that kind of where you're going? I just think that because people are abusive and they're getting more and more of them, that freedoms are being whittled away because people are doing things. And the politicians love that because it gives them the power to enforce laws that we don't want. As Eric Peters was talking with me about yesterday, that bad cases or hard cases make bad law. and then you end up throwing out babies with bathwater. Joe, I appreciate that. Say hi to Cherry, too.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Hi, KMED. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. This is Greg. Govill. Hi, Greg. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Well, first of all, thank you very much. I really want to compliment you on your guest. You do a super job getting people who are very interesting to interview. Well, thank you very much. What's on your mind? Well, first of all, A 308 is a caliber that was developed specifically for the military as a sniper rifle. The caliber that they, I mean the round that they developed is actually a hollow point.
Starting point is 00:33:21 It's more accurate than any other 308 rounds. And so a hollow point, if it was used, would explode on, pretty much, and you just get fragments. And that's what the guy was talking about, using up all the energy in the target. Right. It's what Mills was saying. Okay. Fine. Now, anybody can take a tiny drill or just a pin any little tool and make a hollow point out of a lead bullet. It's just simple. You can just poke a little hole in there, and that'll make all the difference in the world. A 50 caliber anybody can pretty much buy, is accurate up to a tremendous range. And you can even, it was actually, it has been used as a sniper rifle to kill people at one mile.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, those Barrett rifles as an example, right? Now, also, I want to thank you. The two Daves are very entertaining. I tuned in this morning, I was busy, but I caught the two Dave right off the bat, that Minor Dave and then David. I love both of those guys. But I want to address what David said about there's not very many crazy people. That's not any reason to take any of this lightly.
Starting point is 00:34:47 It just takes one stupid, insane, whatever person. And, you know, what Minor Dave said, I so value that information that is working with electric grid. But it's incredible that we are so totally exposed. It's just insanity that our government would allow this type of exposure. Quite well taken from that. And that was my concern, though. But I guess the fact of the matter is that the standard, the majority of the American culture
Starting point is 00:35:22 is consists of people who, you know, follow the rules, understand that, you know, We don't want to go out and blow things up and blow out the electrical grid because these are societal goods. But there is that tiny percent. And those are the ones we need to be paying more attention to. Appreciate your call. Thank you. Hi, K.M.E. Kemi D.
Starting point is 00:35:43 D. Good morning. Good morning. This is an electric friend. Yeah, well, hi. Go ahead. Anyone on the subject. Years ago, I read an article in Time magazine.
Starting point is 00:35:57 A man in New York got mugged. They knocked him out. Went to the hospital, they cleaned him up, sent him home. But weeks later, his head was still really hurting a lot. So he went back to the hospital, see if they had missed something. And what they had missed was there were five, 22 rounds in his brain. Oh, man. How do you miss five bullets?
Starting point is 00:36:19 I'm thinking they probably did an x-ray him the first time through because it looked like superficial damage, like someone to whack him over the head. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, the 22 is the mob's, the mob's, the mob's, caliber of choice, right? Up close and personal. Thank you, Lunatic. 857 at change. Do some emails of the day. Those are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry.com.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Central Point Family Dentistry.com. While you weigh crowns, good people. It's on Freeman Road right next to the Mazelot Mexican restaurant, Central Point Family Dentistry.com. And Jeff writes, Bill, about the Aaron Kubick story from Grants Pass. Public office bill is public. public job. If you don't want your performance evaluation made public in a public employee job, then you don't want anyone to know how will you are performing or not. The fact that he wants to hide this evaluation is reason enough to suspect that he's not capable of performing
Starting point is 00:37:13 the task. All right. We also have an interesting one about the stevia. Remember there was the stevia conspiracy yesterday? And Yehudit writes mean, says, Bill, many people, including myself, hate stevia. It's sickeningly sweet and gives me a milk headache. However, here's some information from Dr. Mercola. Does stevia promote infertility? A 1968 study finding that stevia, this is what was talked about yesterday, by the way, reduces fertility in female rats. This has been criticized for having dubious scientific methodology and overdosing the rats on the compound. Other research finds that stevia is safe and causes no negative reproductive effects. Some studies even suggest that stevia may have protective effects on fertility and reproduction.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And there's a whole article there. So I think that's going to wrap up that part. So it depends on whose scientific, well, whose scientists can beat up someone else's scientist, right, in our world of scientism. Email Bill at Billmyershow.com. We'll kick it all around again tomorrow. Turning 65 is a big milestone. And with it comes one of the most important decisions you'll make, choosing the right Medicare coverage.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Hi, I'm Kelly Bales with Vicherti.

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