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Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Andy Pollack from Lake Creek, big school safety 2nd A advocate talks about the Trump painting which HE donated that replaced an Obama portrait in the White House. Homeless solution in GP? Guests are Jeromy Ford, U-Turn for Christ, and Julie Thomas fm PATH

The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. Andy Pawlik, who I believe lives over in the Lake Creek area. Is that where you live right now, Andy? Yeah, I'm out in Lake Creek over by Condi. I'm out in Lake Creek over by Condi. Okay, yeah. And of course, we knew you as a Second Amendment activist and of course, really keeping us involved. Your daughter ended up passing away at the Marjory Stoneman school shooting a number of years ago, and that's when you came to prominence and you left Florida and you came out here a number of years ago. And you're in the news again over the weekend. I didn't

realize that this was something that that you were involved with and and thanks for the text message. Keep me in the loop on this one. And what happened with this picture, this portrait of Obama at the White House that was replaced with a painting of President Trump, you know, with his his hand in the air after the assassination attempt that had been done to him. How did you get involved in this? What's the story?

It's pretty amazing, Bill. So when my daughter was murdered in 2018, my friend owned a gallery in Delray, Florida. It's called the Blue Gallery. And I met an artist. To my surprise he made a portrait of my daughter that's in my house right now and it's pretty amazing and I became very friendly with this artist and he wanted to make a portrait of President Trump and I had given President Don Jr. a gift, a commission to painting from about a year and a half ago and it was in his living room and Don Jr. a gift, a commissioned painting from about a year and a half ago, and it was

in his living room, in Don Jr.'s living room, and the president went over for Thanksgiving, and he saw the painting that I commissioned, and it's of President Trump, and he was like amazed by it, and I knew he loved this artist. So after the Butler assassination, I had I commissioned another painting and I've always been in touch with the president and his staff. He's truly caring. You know, he sends me cards over the holidays and he'll invite us to the White House occasionally not since he got back in. I'll be invited soon. But we got this painting

and it took me a while. I tried to get it to him in Miralago before he was president it would have been a lot easier but I've been I've been constantly in touch and I sent we sent the painting we had to go through Secret Service. I sent the painting and then last week they sent the White House to me and first they sent me the tweet that they put up in the White House. I was like, oh, I couldn't believe it. And then they called me to tell me if it was okay to use my name that I had commissioned this painting and gave it as a gift. And it's significant because they Obama and Obama I hold him partly responsible for the death of my daughter because he started the restorative

justice program under his administration that spread into all the public schools so it meant something to me that they removed his painting put my painting there and it's pretty amazing to see it. It was just that it was a took a few months but we got it done Bill. Well I'm glad you did that and boy Andy now local guy makes good on something like this. What I was kind of wondering about though you brought up the restorative justice and this has been a sore spot with me and when I do talk with with school officials here in Southern Oregon or people on school boards.

And I hear kind of the same thing and people will say, well, we don't have restorative justice any longer. And I disagree with them because usually what they have done is renamed it somehow. You know, they end up calling it, you know, emotional social learning or whatever the case might be. But essentially what ends up happening with restorative justice is that schools try to dumb down or don't have kids arrested who should be arrested, who maybe should be in mental institutions or who should be in jail, because it makes the school statistics look bad.

Isn't that in essence what you've been fighting ever since your daughter died in that school shooting bill you hit it a hundred percent on when my daughter was in uh... in her high school after i did my investigation because you know right away after the shooting all the media just push for gun control right And I didn't go down that path. I wanted to find out exactly what happened. So it was under the Obama administration, Arne Duncan was the secretary of education

and they came up with these policies. In my daughter's school, these restorative justice policies, kids were allowed three misdemeanors per school year every year and then it would reset. You know, they'd start again at zero. So what it does is it puts administrators in charge of discipline and actual criminal activities because it could work. You know, if they have law enforcement involved with some of these policies, I believe that it could work and put kids down the right path of success.

But when liberal administrators left us, take control of this and think that, and they feel good about it, they're setting these kids up for failure. And it's true. They give them chance after chance, and it just, it really doesn't help these kids at all. And it's in a lot of the public schools. Parents don't know about it. President Trump ended it. This is why the Department of Education ended because we ended it with the

Department of Education at a federal level, but it doesn't mean, you know, at a local level, they could still do it. They had no control over these policies. And you have a situation like the murderer of your daughter back in 2018. Everybody knew Cruz was a bad kid and a real, real problem. Everybody knew it. If there was going to be anybody in a school that was going to go go off the deep end and do something like what was done there, it was him. But yet nothing was done. Isn't that what happened back at that school? Well, what happens is also with these restorative justice policies, like you say, the underreporting. So the sheriff in the county, they'll sign on to it because it'll show on paper

that they actually reduced arrests in juveniles. So, when they get to run for office, they could say, well, I reduced crime in juveniles by 50 percent. But in actuality, they're not arresting or reporting anything. So, it looks good on paper, but it doesn't help the children. And yeah, so the police, the sheriff's department were at the killer's house over 40 times and he was never arrested. He punched his mother's teeth out. He trespassed after school. He threatened to kill children, other kids at the school, raped them, never arrested. It got so bad, Bill, that

I even uncovered they used to frisk him in the morning. That's how worried they were, but they still let him go to school. And us parents, we didn't know anything about it. And any student that has to be frisked daily to get into school doesn't deserve to be in the school. Because the other kids didn't have to do, they didn't have to do that with most of the kids, did they? I hope not.

They give these kids more rights than the children that just wanna go to school and have a good time and see their friends. These kids with the oppositional defiant disorder, they call it, they get more rights, they get more rights than the kids that just want to go to school. And still, you know, parents, you know, if you think every parent, like everywhere I

go, Bill, because I work, I work with school safety across the country, every community thinks it could never happen to them. You know, I go to Ashland, I just, I went to Ashland High School and I did some, I worked with the NRA as a school shield program where they go out and they do help with threat assessments and they teach administrators what to look for. Ashland High School is an open campus. This is 2025. We know better by now.

Every school in the country should have a single point of entry with fencing around it. So parents, you know, parents have to wake up in a lot of these communities and they really have the power to make a difference, you know, by just electing the right people into the school boards. I hope you're right about that. I've noticed that the state of Oregon seems to be doing its best to strip whatever local power school boards have away. Have you noticed that by chance in taking a look at what's been coming out of the state legislature? I really don't pay attention much in Oregon.

Oregon is a lost cause, you know, the people that run the state. I've mostly been working in, uh, I go back, uh, and forth, you know, to Florida, Texas, Tennessee, states where you could really like, I don't even think they're open to a conversation in a state like Oregon about school safety, uh, that they don't really put it at the top of the list as other states do. Like if everyone followed the state of Florida, what we did after the shooting in Parkland, the schools would be a lot safer, including Texas. Texas, you had the Volvee recently, I'm saying recently, probably over a year ago, two years ago. In 2018, there was a shooting in Texas,

in Santa Fe, Texas on May 18th, and 10 children were killed, and Texas didn't make the necessary changes like Florida did. You gotta learn, states need to learn from other shootings and make the changes so we make our children safer. And a lot of states aren't doing that, Bill. Andy, where can people, can parents find out more about the school safety issues that you're talking about? Do you have a main website people could check out? Maybe some social media too? Yeah,

thanks for asking, Bill. We do have a company that's called Xsponse. It'sF-E-O-N-S-E, Xsponse.com, and we use a lot of AI now. We take the human error out of emergencies, Bill, because we know from other shootings people fail when it comes time to report it. You know, they panic. So we took a lot of that out. So xponse.com and they could reach out to me on my ex at andrewpolickfl. Okay, very good. Hey, I'm just kind of curious because you're talking about how Oregon is a lost cause in many ways with these public schools and yet a lot of kids are in here.

I would agree and this is why I'm kind of like one foot in and one foot out. There's a part of me that says if you want to save your kids now you got to get them out of the public system but yet for the long term we have to reform the public. Is that kind of where you are too? Well I'm always here to help anybody that would ask, you know, regardless of political views. But I try and focus my energy on people that want it. You know, that would be, it's interesting then, why are you here? Just curious, why did you move here for that reason? I'm just curious, given, you know, what you're working on. My wife's family, my wife's family lives near Redding. So I didn't want to live in California, so I moved a little

north. And I got a nice piece of heaven out here. It's beautiful. And I go back and forth from Florida to Oregon. And it is, southern Oregon's gorgeous. You know, I like living here, but I just, the politics are terrible. This last election, even in Jackson County, it went more blue. You know, Trump won the election, but not by much. And I think I could see this Jackson County turning blue within the next five years. I hope you're wrong about election, but not by much. And I think I could see this Jackson County turning blue within the next five years. I hope you're wrong about that, but that has been one of my concerns in which people just get to the point where, hey, I'm tired of the fight and then I'm just going to cut and I'm going to move to Idaho, I'm going to move to Florida, all those sort of things.

That does leave the people that have some common sense that are left behind in a more difficult political position, right? It's just numbers. But Bill, I worked with the local Republicans in Jackson County, you know, so I'm willing to give up, I'm willing to fight, you know, if there's people in the game. Because it is a fight, you know, it's a battle. It's like a liberalism, it's like a cancer that spreads. And it is spreading into Jackson County. I appreciate the take on that. Josephine County, it's spreading a bit there too, not nearly to the same extent. They're definitely considerably redder than Jackson County at this point in time. Hey, Andy, I really appreciate that. I'm going to put your information up. And by the way,

thanks for commissioning that painting. There's not a better painting that could have replaced Obama on that wall. It's pretty amazing to think that it's a painting that I gifted is going to be in the White House. It's going to be there for a long time and it should because that was an attempt of assassination on a president and we got very lucky that President Trump escaped death. Andy Pollack, we appreciate you being on. Thanks for reaching out. Thank you. You take care. Good hearing from you. Andy Pollack, of course, over in Lake Creek. It's a little bit southeast of us. It's 731 KMED 993 KBXG.

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And of course, the courts have been putting all sorts of injunctions and then we're just supposed to condel and then the people don't want to do this. And so pathways to stability is being discussed as a possible way of making things work in grand spas. And I'm glad to talk to anyone who may have something that works, just like, well, last week we were talking about, you know, with Chad McComas. Chad McComas, formerly of Rogue Retreat, and he's there and getting that program going for elderly homeless issues. All right? And God bless him, you know, doing these things. And so we'll talk with Jeremy and Julie here in just a moment and find out what the story is here and what they're hoping to accomplish all coming up. News brought to you by Millette Construction,

specializing in foundation repair and replacement. Get on solid ground. Visit MilletteConstruction.com. From the KMED News Center, here's what's going on. Hi, I'm Mark with Oregon Truck and Auto Authority and I'm on KMED. I'm Mark with Oregon Truck and Auto Authority and I'm on KMED. 737. Proud to bring on Julie Thomas and Jeremy Ford and Pathways to Stability is being talked about as a maybe a way out to something more sensible in the city of Grants Pass. City of Grants Pass of course has been ground zero for court attacks and injunctions and hey let's just turn over the parks to the homeless community, you know that kind of thing and people are looking for something different here.

And first off Julie, it's a pleasure having you on. Good morning Julie Thomas, welcome. Good morning sir, thank you for having me. Okay what is your relationship in here with Pathways to Stability? What do you do there? So I'm actually the president of PAHP, which stands for Partners Assisting the Homeless, and a brief little history a couple years ago as you said things are not working in the community as it comes across homelessness and addiction and mental illness. That's right. Hey Julie, if you could hold that just a moment. I just want to make sure people know that

Jeremy Ford's here. Jeremy, are you here too? Right? I'm here. Okay, good. All right. Good morning. Okay, good. I just want to make sure people know that Jeremy Ford's here. Jeremy, are you here too? I'm here. Okay, good. All right. Good morning. Okay, good. Wonderful. I just want to make sure everybody's here before we move forward. And then if I try to talk to Jeremy, then I find out he's not there. But anyway.

This is why you get paid the big bucks. A couple years ago, we got some concerned citizens that came to the table and said, wow, what we're doing is not working. We've got to be able to do something bigger, better, more sustainable than what we're doing. And that culminated to a very large, multiple-use, multi-use, multi-use, multi-use, multi-use system. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing.

And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And wow, what we're doing is not working. We've got to be able to do something bigger, better, more sustainable than what we're doing. And that culminated to a very large multidisciplinary group of nonprofits and churches and local businesses and citizen volunteers.

And we created a grassroots advocacy and working group committed to having a positive impact on homelessness, addiction, and mental health in our community. So, our mission is to collaborate with our community partners to find sustainable solutions to help people transition from homelessness to a self-sufficient future in Josephine County. And that's been a huge job between the injunction and Measure 110 and the parks issues and the public spaces issues, and now, of course, that as well. But over these last two years, we've been able to really work closely together with many of our local nonprofits who are doing sustainable things to get people off the streets, out of our parks, out of their cars, back into work, back into housing.

And it's been really an exciting evolution, but we knew we needed to do more. And so even though we're still doing what we do and we collaborate on a regular basis, we find out where the gaps are and we fill those gaps. The minute we heard about Jeremy and U-Turn and Pathways, we knew that this was where we needed to go as a community to drive this thing home, to reduce homelessness, and make it rare, brief, and non-reoccurring, which is the end goal, right? Not just manage it, but eradicate it.

All right. Now, when I hear the term collaborating in the nonprofit groups and everything like that, Jeremy and Julie, sometimes I get a little bit concerned that I'm hearing just an expansion of, and I'm sorry, and I don't mean to, I'm not tarrying with a broad brush here, but kind of like the homeless industrial complex. The homeless industrial complex. Yeah, the homeless industrial complex racket, you know, on these kind of things. So is that part of this model?

Explain how it works if you don't mind. Jeremy, maybe go to you this time, okay? Yeah, so me too. That word, homeless industrial complex, just, it stands a hair on the back of my neck. And one thing I wanted to make sure when we first got going with this is that we didn't become any part of that. What we do at U-Tripp or Christ is addiction recovery. And we as a church body with Calvary Chapel Grants Pass, we go out to the homeless encampments. And one night, just in the middle of the night, I'm pretty sure it was God that woke me up and said, you really, you need to do something about it. And then at U-Tripp or Christ,

we've been in the recovery business for about 30 years now we've gone from one church one in Paris, California now having you know 30 worldwide across the country and so this is a model that has been replicated I just want to be right people come in the program or actually their homeless money come to the program and so one of the things we started looking at was kind of the built for zero model, but as we got to looking at it more, that's kind of a homeless kind of model. And we were seeing that that kind of wasn't really sustainable in the long run. There were people that were actually getting housed, but they're falling back out of homelessness

because there wasn't treatment or any type of recovery services looked at. And so we kind of morphed it into the pathway stability model looking to really tailor it for grants path. We're looking at doing what's called a low barrier to entry model, where they actually, there's no barriers to come in, but within 14 to 30 days, we're gonna ask you to choose a path that I don't want to.

Okay, so this then, this then would end up satisfying the injunction, essentially, in which there has to be a low barrier to entry. Am I right about that? Or one of the bones of contention that I made here is that you can have a shelter, but if you have rules that say, okay, you can't drink or drug, then you can't get in there. Or if you have dogs, you can't get in there, I guess. The problem is though, aren't you in essence inviting the chaos into pathways to stability, I guess, in some ways? Well, the thing is, we've been going around the last couple months, like I said, we've been working

with a lot of the other nonprofits. We've been looking of, we've, we've been looking at different ways to kind of make this sustainable and make it work. And so we're looking to bring in case management, medical and mental health services evaluations. You know, even though we are faith based, we're not going to mandate a faith based, but we're going to allow faith based to be a component. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What is the difference between this and then what has already been tried in grants pass? Maybe either of you.

I can jump in on that Bill. Okay, go ahead. Because I have the history piece. So the things that have not been working is the enabling. The thing that's not working is the unaccountability. The thing that's not working is unmanaged sites, unmanaged places. So people get to do whatever they want. And it's human nature. They get to do whatever they want. They're going to do whatever they want.

That's not sustainable. All it does is create more problems. The cool thing is that this fills the one remaining gap in our community. We have the, we have mints, so it's the lowest barrier shelter anybody can go in there at any time. And there's no expectation that they get off drugs, etc. This is essentially you just walk in there and it doesn't matter what you're admitted and there's at least a roof over your head so it's not raining and snowing on you. Okay, that's it. Exactly.

Now, you do have navigation, so they have nonprofits that are meeting with people there trying to get them out of that situation. So we didn't need another one. What we needed is something that was a low barrier entry so anybody could get in there. But once they're in there and they get stabilized, they have to be part of a program. They can't be doing drugs. They can't have alcohol. They have to abide by the rules. And they have to have skin in the game.

And some people may be ready to get off and go into treatment, but they're not stabilized enough to get it, or they're waiting to go in. So what Jeremy is doing and Pathways is doing is providing the low barrier entry. The rest of the program is all accountability. They all need to be working for it, but also reduce some of the barriers. So they can bring a pet, as long as it's not a danger to themselves or others. So they can bring a pet as long as it's not a danger to themselves or others. They are allowed to smoke in a designated smoking area, but it's 24-7 managed, 24-7

case managed. Everything that needs to be done can be done right there. So no longer are there barriers to under treatment, barriers to go finding a job, barriers that give people excuses not to get better and to get healthier. So this is an accountability model, but Jeremy is right. It's different because it includes the treatment. It includes the mental health. I think those are two of the biggest things next to housing

that our community are faced with right now. One of the biggest challenges I think that we've had in our homelessness communities is that, you know, there are a certain percentage of people who just found themselves in a bad way, medical emergency, something like that happens, loss of job, and there are people like that that find themselves homeless. I don't think that's the majority of it though. Isn't most of it an addiction issue and sometimes addiction and mental illness?

With your experience, tell me what you see. Well, I think they kind of go hand in hand with the addiction and the mental health part of it, and that's why we kind of looked at why we decided we want to help with this, because we've been doing this for so long on this end with U-turn for Christ. And so, we see we have one...excuse me, I'm still trying to go over a cold. Sorry about that. We have 100% promoted from within U-turn for Christ, which means that all the other U-turn for Christ that we have are actually people that went through the program, got help, got sustainable, and put themselves in a position where they were now in full recovery

and were able to go out and start another U-turn of Christ. And so we know that's the thing is that's what we realized is that we need to have a treatment first model here. We need to get deal with the root issues that are going on with, with people inside. And drugs being the biggest part in, so we, we know if we can get them into case management, get them into recovery and get people clean that will, and then eventually transform into workforce development, job placement. We're also going to be producing another part of the community that's able to go back out in the community and be part of the community and working and developing the community and bringing the community up. Like Julie was saying earlier, one of the differences, this

isn't going to be an account. This is going to be a managed 24 7 site. So, it's not like people go home at 5 o'clock and then leave everybody there until the next morning. Okay. That's not that sounds good. No, yeah, we're going to have like a city is going to provide security cameras. We'll have, I think we'll have security on site. If the property does go through that we're desiring to go through. And this is the Vine Street property that has been discussed, right? The Vine Street? That's one of the properties that's been discussed. It's definitely our desire because of the size of the property to be able to bring all that. What we're looking to do is house all the nonprofits under one roof, those like with ADAPT and options and to do with case management, medical health services services and have Syscute Health and

Asante Health be able to be out there doing medical evaluations. So it's a one-stop shop that we would don't have to send people across town or down to Medford that we can case manage and house everything on one spot. And your financial property would be perfect for that because of its size and the scope and where its location is to the main roads everything. And what is the status or barrier of of that being approved? Is this something Grants Pass City Council needs to get involved in or is involved with right now? I'm sorry to you know that could be a dumb question but No the City of Grants Pass in the city, a lot of,

well, I really want to tip my hat to the mayor and to the city council. They are really working very diligently behind the scenes to get something done as far as at the resting spot and being able to put a stabilization center on a property there. I know they're pushing really hard. We're hoping that by the end of this week

that we'll have something more to share with the community. We're looking to hold a town hall meeting at the fairgrounds on March 21st between 2 and 4 p.m. to share more about the vision and what we're looking to do because I think a lot of the community is not informed on what's really going on and I think that we're able to inform the community of what's actually taking place, what steps we're actually implementing it in. We want to actually open this up to the community to actually come and help because this is a big community problem and it's

gonna take all of us to solve this problem. Yeah that was um so I'm just trying to imagine what this looks like. All right what this actually looks like. I'm a drug addict, I've got some mental issues, let's say, and I've got my pitbull, and I got my portable tent and my backpack, right? And then I decide that, hey, I can't live this way anymore. So what happens? I show up at Pathways to Stability, Grants Pass, and we got the U-turn for Christ people. I don't want to just stay at Mint any longer, okay?

God bless them, but I need to do something about this. What happens when I'm kicked in or when I'm inducted, so to speak? So what we do is we're gonna put them through an intake process. So we're looking at that to be about 72 hours that we can assess their needs, decide if it's treatment that they need,

if it's medical or mental evaluations that they need. And then we're gonna be having, placing modular units on the property, kind of like what they have done at road crossings with road retreat. So are they the tiny houses type things or something different from that? Yeah, there's something similar to the tiny houses.

All right. There's 20 foot modular units, but there'll be duplex modular, so we'll have two in each unit. And then from there, then we'll just get them into what resources they need to get to get them find their pathway actually out of homelessness. Whether it's addiction, we're going to allow them to get addiction treatment. At their event, we're going to align them with VA services. If it's mental health needs, we'll align it with mental health needs. And what if you're just someone who's just in trouble and financially you can't

afford it, whether you're elderly or let's say a mother with kids? Are you mixing everybody up together or is it kind of segregated, depending on the degree of issues? Well, that's the first one. The first four populations that we really want to deal with is those with disabilities, mothers with children, veterans. Okay. And what was the other one?

Senior citizens. Senior citizens, seniors, yeah. And so what we're gonna do is we're gonna have different areas, we're not gonna lump everybody in one area, we'll have a different area for those with disabilities, seniors, women with children, and that and so forth. And so, and especially if you have a pit,

we're looking at putting Kettling in, muzzles, harnesses, things like that. Yeah, you can't have the dogs chewing on anybody. That would be bad form, you know? Yeah, that wouldn't be good. We're working with a few other people in the community. We're looking at the Greenfield RV, it's actually being put in,

and transitioning that for transitional and temporary housing. So what we've got is we kind of got a model all the way from low barrier to entry into case management into transitional housing, workforce development, and being able to provide at the end of it permanent housing. Okay, so a one-stop shop there, so to speak. What is the criteria that says that you have flunked and we have to kick you out? Because you said, first it's about getting somebody stable for a couple, two, three days to get someone stable,

and then decide to get you into treatment. What is the criteria in which saying, hey, it's not working out, we've got to kick you and your dog out, let's say. Hate to put it that way, but it's reality. Yeah, and unfortunately that is reality. We see that in the ministry here where we bring people into the recovery program.

But I think one of the things that we're gonna do is we're gonna allow people to be recycled a few times. Cause not everybody that comes in the program here gets it right the first time. And so we're gonna have those that don't get it right the first time. We've actually got guys that actually run minute different ministries here that went through the program. There's one guy 14 times and then you finally on the

14th time you got it right now he's a pastor he's running his own new term for Christ. Is there gonna be a bit of a delay here so it's not someone's just continually kept on a 72-hour recycling bin, so to speak. You see what I'm getting at here? Yeah. But here's another thing that we also do, that if you're kind of not getting with it here in the program here, that we ask you to come back in 30 days. That way you can actually get serious, think about it and get serious about it.

Okay. And I'm sure we're going to have those type of situations and scenarios that develop with this. Yeah, because you'd hate to have someone recycling every three days or being out for a day or so and maybe getting in the way of somebody who may be a better prospect who is more seriously committed, you know, to wanting to. That's correct. How many people are you planning on being able to handle if all goes well here?

Well, I think we're gonna start off small. Like I said, we're gonna focus on those four population groups and then we're looking to, as this goes, we get some groundwork going and we get some infrastructure in to be able to actually, our goal and our vision is that we can actually close down the accountants and that we can start housing everybody and through the Pathway Stability Program.

Okay, well how much do you want to build it for? I mean is it two dozen, three dozen, fifty, you know, what kind of numbers are we talking about? We're looking right now between 200 and 250. 200 and 250? Wow! Yeah, that's the significance about this, Bill, is that we don't have this transitional housing opportunity. Those that we have are all full. And so if somebody is waiting to get into treatment, very likely they're gonna go back to the park or the tent. Now they'll have stable housing, showers, laundry,

case management, the help that they need, whether it's secular or safe space. And so people are stabilizing. And even just applying for a job, you gotta have a hot shower and you've got a presenter and you might need a little help with yeah and you need your and you need your clothes you need clean clothes I mean all the other stuff right yeah exactly so it was a huge gap and then with the with the transitional housing to affordable low

income housing that would apply for those who would not normally because of their pay grade or their circumstances, they'll never be able to afford $1,500 a month. So it comes with long-term low-income housing with case management, with support that helps them to become contributing members of our community, which is the end goal. We don't want to manage it. We want to eradicate the problem and get everybody back to work and back to healthy. Well, that's refreshing. What is the timeframe to hopefully break ground on this? What are you shooting for? Probably within the next 30 to 45 days. We're looking at getting this implemented. We've been

doing a lot of things behind the scenes, like meeting with community partners. We put together a steering committee, a few leadership committees. And so we're already running lots of properties. That was open up. Which hopefully, I think it might go through this week. And then we can start moving on it. We've already got, we've had a developed, one of the developers for their Greenfield RV park has already decided that he was going to throw money towards purchasing 20 of the units that we can actually place on the property. So off top, we can probably get 40 people in moving pretty quickly.

And then we're just going to keep going and growing from there. I think one of the good things about what we've got going here is that we've got a beginning to the end model. One of the biggest things that keeping people in homelessness is lacking affordable housing. And us being able to pivot with the possibilities of Greenfield RV Park, which has, which is going to have 118 housing units on it, you'd be able to use for sustainable housing. If we, we get that in play also, which it looks like it's going to be, we can bring them in all the way from low barrier, get them in and get them into permanent housing also. All right. That's huge. Hey Julie, when was this this community meeting you were going to be putting on, you and Jeremy

were going to put on? When's that going to be again? It's going to be Monday the 21st of April at the fairgrounds. Okay so next Monday. All right. Yep. Jeremy's going to meet with Tamara to get the exact time but we'll definitely get that information out to you. We'd love for the community to come out ask really good questions. We're completely transparent. We're just holding up until we have a property and then it's go. All right. We should just wait for you. Just might get it. And where does the money come from? I'm just curious. Well, the money right now is going to be coming through private funding.

One of the good things is why we decided to get involved in this is we didn't want to be part of that homeless industrial complex. U-turn for crisis has always been run on private funding. And we're looking to fund this also, that we don't wanna be a burden to taxpayers. But there is also money that's always been allocated for shelter and housing programs. And we were looking at possibly tapping into that. So that might take care of some of the hard costs of shelter, right?

That kind of thing? All right. Yeah, the thing we don't wanna do is we don't wanna see the taxpayers water bill or let your bill go up because of what we're doing. And our goal with the end of this is to work ourselves out of the job. We don't want to be part of the homeless industrial complex. We have looked at a lot of different models across the country. We've seen that they've solved the

homeless issue in a lot of different challenging communities. And so we're looking to do the same thing here. Julie Thomas, Jeremy Ford, we appreciate you being on here this morning. Stay in touch, keep us in the room here. so let me know when that that community meeting when the time is scheduled over at Josephine County Fairgrounds, okay? I'll be interested. All right. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you very much, Julie. Thank you, Jeremy. Good talking with both of you, okay? God bless. All right, God bless. We need the blessings down here, that is for sure. Pathways to Stability, the plan for Grants Pass, Oregon.

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Sunday at two o'clock and we clean up a park and we switch parks every week and there and there was ten of us yesterday and we met up with Jeremy a few days ago and he planned and he sent 15 guys in a couple of bands out to meet us and we cleaned up in downtown Grants Pass. We cleaned up 5th Street, 6th Street, all the alleyways around the businesses from from rogue roasters at the little restaurant there all the way up past the railroad tracks and you cleaned up all the alleyways and all around the businesses and it's 15 guys I'll tell you what U-Turn for Christ has some very very good guys with a lot of energy and a lot of

just they're all clean and sober guys and and there it was a wonderful job to work with them yesterday. When you hear then this plan to get something going that could possibly take a 200 to 250 homeless off the streets in Grants Pass, what is your impression of that overall? It's difficult to envision it right now, but... Yeah, I am 100% in favor of the Vine Street deal because it will get the number one thing that I like about it is it's 24 hour managed and you turn for Christ has several work crews. They strip blackberries and put in people's yards. They did that to my neighbor's place. They paint houses. They have work crews. You get a job, you get

clean and sober, and they'll provide for you. It's just a wonderful organization. And the fact that it's 24-hour managed, they're not going to be, like you said earlier, just left to do what they want in these camps. And then they just go out all night and rob and loot and steal and just create havoc. Yeah, because it hasn't been working, right? That model hasn't been working. We know that. It hasn't been working at all. They go right back to our parks. They leave a mess everywhere, and this is going to eliminate all that. Plus, it's up above the downtown area. It's up by I-5, and it will be well managed. I am completely for this solution. Well, I hope you're right about that, Brian.

Thank you for the call. 770-5633, I'll grab another one here before news. Dr. Power's joining me here in a few minutes too. Hi, good morning, who's this? Welcome. Hello? Hey Bill, deplorable Patrick here, Bill, I'm on with you? Yep, you sure are.

Just wanna ask you what your outlook is on getting Pam Bondi's attention over here, where our legislature is not just violating our constitutional rights, but they're ignoring the Constitution. And is there any, what's the outlook on the DOJ coming in here and saying, you guys, we're going to sue you? I don't have a conclusion that I can draw on this quite yet. I think what would be helpful is to get Pam Bondi off of Fox News or so many media appearances. It's just my opinion. I seem to see her a lot on TV and I know you have to worry

about messaging. You know what I'm getting at? Messaging, of course, is important. But I'm concerned that for a focus on getting on television a lot, that there could be some attention being taken away from actually getting lawsuits rolling. I hope I'm wrong about that and that we're not worried about being on television as much as we are attacking the states that need attacked for their policies. And Oregon would certainly seem to be a ripe one for sure.

Hopefully she's got a good-sized staff there that can cover up some of that. Yeah, and the thing is, of course, she's very telegenic and she's very good on the stump. Don't get me wrong about this, but I just I would like to see that that big legal brain buckling down along with her staff and maybe not worrying about making too many television appearances for a while. That's just me. Just me though. Okay. I was hoping we could do both. Yeah. You like the look, don't you? Right. I totally do. Thanks, DP. Thanks for the call. All right. It's 6 after 8.