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Episode Date: April 16, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clauser Drilling dot com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning. Welcome to Wheels Up Wednesday. Eric Peters joins me in about 20 minutes, one of my favorite times of the week in which we let our hair down and talk about cars and politics and various other things. We always talk politics. We can't certainly help that.

But he'll be joining me here in about a good 20 minutes or so. And we're also going to be talking about this latest right-stripping gun bill. Kevin Starr is going to pop in here for a few minutes after Eric Peter is out there. It's either Senate bill or House bill 1015, whatever it is. It's just really, really bad. And Republicans are continuing. I think I got a fundraising letter from Christine Draze, you know, help us fight, help us fight for you. Christine, God love you. Walk out. And you'll be helping a lot on these kind of things. But you know, that's that's very difficult because that gets in the way I think of reaching across the aisle

and making friends with the people who wish to kill you. It's okay. I guess that's just the way that things work in the state legislature. That's why sometimes it's like, you know, maybe the state legislature in Oregon, especially this long session, it's better just to look away. I don't know. But we'll certainly keep you up on that too. Chris Barnett, Josephine County Commissioner, is going to be coming on the show too. We're going to be talking about some progress there. And actually kind of like a progress report is what they're hoping to do. And at the same time, of course, they've been cutting a lot of staff at Josephine County.

And I'm wondering if a lot of these people in Josephine County are going to be applying to work with the City of Grants Pass instead. Maybe just a little bit of a recycling program because the Daily Courier has a pretty interesting article. I was just breezing through it this morning or browsing through it. Vicki Aldo is reporting that the Grants Pass City Council is being asked to approve pay raises that would boost the salaries of the city manager and a whole bunch of department heads above the salaries offered in eight comparable cities. With threats of lawsuits if counselors don't comply? I don't quite understand that. We'll just have to take a look at this. Of course we did talk about Aaron Kubik. Last week we had mentioned what had been talking about

a higher pay for Aaron Kubik than pay week we had mentioned what he'd been talking about. A higher pay for Aaron Kubik than pay offered in the cities of Klamath Falls, Lake Oswego, Woodburn, Lebanon, Kaiser, and Roseburg is a proposed pay but also be better than current contracts for city managers in Medford and Albany. All right. And interesting, interesting times. You know, I don't know. Interesting, interesting times. You know, I don't know. Given what could be going on economically over the next few months here, whether there's talk of recession or various other things, wouldn't you hold off a little bit? Maybe just a little bit? I don't know. But I'm not in charge of running cities, so it's up to the City Council to figure this out, but I don't know.

Something tells me that may not go over too well with the folks, but I don't think that necessarily people have to weigh in on this. But Daily Courier, of course, anything they can do to criticize a mostly Republican group, I guess that's what they're going to look for, but I don't know. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big big big braises big big braises all right so we have that going on what else do we have here RCC board is going to expand and put an auto in diesel facility in both the both of the White City and also the Grants Pass campus. Of course, I don't know if all the governor's climate-friendly, equitable community stuff goes through. I mean, what gas and

diesel facilities will be needed any longer because we're all going to be driving devices or taking RVTD or Josephine County Transit the way they're looking. But, you know, I guess well, maybe they're looking, maybe what the state of Oregon is looking for is we're going to need auto and diesel mechanics due to, well, we're going to turn Oregon into a bit of Cuba. Remember how Cuba would have the 50, 60 year old cars that were just being pieced together? We'll need very creative auto and diesel mechanics

if the state of Oregon ends up getting its wish, its desire. So I'm just being a little sarcastic, please excuse me. I can't help myself, but my cynicism sometimes is rewarded greatly in the state of Oregon with our various state programs here. There is one story though that I thought that this one struck me. This coming out of the state legislature today, OPB reporting, a conversation on the Senate floor on Monday pivoted from being about a measure requiring the state of Oregon to provide luggage to kids in foster care rather than trash bags into a larger bipartisan discussion about why the agency charged with

kids and its care has struggled so long. This measure, Senate Bill 1016, would prevent Oregon's child welfare agency from putting kids' belongings in trash bags as they move their placement from family to family and would make it explicit that luggage must be provided. The measure passed the Senate and now heads on to the House. So you'll no longer have, assuming this passes the House and I'm pretty sure it will, it'll be signed by the governor. And then if you're a foster kid you'll actually have a suitcase as you go from place to place apparently. I didn't

realize that they were using garbage bags in many cases, but yeah, they were. And I ended up having an aspirin flashback to the bad old days of my life, bad old days of my life when I didn't have custody of my daughter Sarah. Remember I was telling you how Sarah turned 32 just the other day. And I remember that the times that her mother would send her down from Portland, she would come down with garbage bags. She came down with her, with all of her belongings to stay with Linda and me for a week or more in garbage bags.

And that irritated us to the core so deeply that we went and bought her luggage at that time. No, my daughter is not going to be carrying a garbage bag back and forth from Portland to Jacksonville in order to see her dad. This is just absolutely ridiculous. And it just irritated me to the core. And I'm reading about this foster care bill and I'm thinking, yeah, it is sort of symbolic. You know, you have the poor kid that's in a tough situation in the first place moving from place to place. And then on top of that, all their worldly belongings in a garbage bag. It's the kind of symbolism that we don't need in a foster situation, which is already

challenged enough. But it even brought me back to my own daughter, who was not being fostered, I guess, but was going around the state as if she were a foster child. We fixed that, but yikes. Eighteen minutes after six, Other headlines this morning too. Ashlyn wants to hold a workshop series on wildfire resiliency. What do you think wildfire resiliency would look like in Ashlyn? We'll think about that.

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He wanted to get a question answered about a vehicle and more. One of the topics we'll be talking about too is how to avoid getting screwed over at the Quickie oil shops. Because there seems to be a growing trend of people really getting messed up. Now, I'm not talking about all the quickie oil shops, but all sorts of mistakes get done, not necessarily caught because they end up running these shops, of course, with volume. You have to have a lot of volume, which means a lot of people and a lot of vehicles are just in and out of there, and many mistakes are being made, and it's astounding how many

have been made, and there are ways that you can protect yourself. That's one of his premier articles. I think it's gonna be some good news you can use if you ever use the quickie. Now I tend to just, well, I don't mind changing the oil in the van again. That's no problem. You just got one bolt on the bottom.

It's right there. The engine's all exposed. Same with the PT Cruiser. That's not a big deal. My wife's Passat, that one is a pain in the butt. That one is a pain in the butt because Volkswagen ended up putting this, and I know it's done to give you a little bit better mileage, but there's this plastic cover over the entire bottom of the engine area and it covers most of the drivetrain. And then to get to the oil filter,

the oil canister, and all this kind of stuff, you got to take out about 40 bolts to get to it. So I have intended not to want to do that one as much but anyway we'll talk with Eric about it should be always an interesting conversation. Ashland! Ashland according to the KOBI 5 is going to have a workshop this next coming Monday. Monday is when this is going to go on. Let me see if I can get that information. Yes, Monday, April 21st, 6 o'clock, Ashland's Carpenter Hall. It's going to be a workshop series on wildfire resiliency.

Citi putting on this workshop to inform we folks on wildfire prevention safety the better prepared wildfire series a collaboration oh I love that term collaboration between the city Ashland together Ashland news and Ashland climate collaborative oh my gosh as soon as you hear ash Ashland climate collaborative you know what kind of nonsense you'll be dealing with. But yeah, they'll be talking safety tips at evacuation plants, fire resistance, landscaping, all right. I don't know, maybe what's going to be turned in, maybe this resiliency, this wildfire resiliency thing will be, well, if you're

truly going to be resilient in Ashland, you must tear down your woodhouse, build a concrete house just made entirely of concrete, and by the way, round up the entire house, round up, I mean, round up, using round up glyphosate. Well, they don't like glyphosate in Ashland. Well, nobody really likes glyphosate except, you know, you know, but they'll glyphosate it all. You kill all the landscape around you. You put down nothing but rock, right?

And you make sure that you have a 400-yard safe space around you and a concrete house. Or better yet, maybe even bury your house underground. It'll be kind of like the... Anybody remember Luke Skywalker's home? His home on that first Star Wars movie back in the 1970s It's like that. Everything's kind of half buried That'll probably be considered the climate friendly equitable community wildfire resilience home. That'll be perfect I'm only half kidding. I'm not so sure they're not gonna go in this in this kind of situation

Yeah, you can't have a lot of greenery around there, right? All that kind of stuff. Democrat Senator, this is coming from the national side of things, Senator Chris Van Hollen, Maryland Democrat, has demanded a meeting with the president of El Salvador. And what he's going to do now is Van Hollen will fly to San Salvador and demand a meeting with the president there. Van Hollen insists he's going to bring back Abrego Garcia.

This is the guy who is the gangbanger, the MS-13 guy, the illegal alien. He's not here legally in the first place, not here legally in the first place, and he's being reported as the man from Maryland. You know, you'll hear that, the Maryland man. He's an MS-13 gangbanger. Well, the MS-13 thing is alleged, but he was still here illegally. Married, kids, things like that. Oh boy, so I guess they got legally married. That's when he ended up using the legal process, but apparently still accused of being a gangbanger

and was sent down there. Supreme Court of course is saying, bring him back, and President Trump is saying, no, no, we're not going to do that. And now we have Democrats that are fighting to get illegal alien gang bangers that were deported maybe in the wrong procedure to El Salvador. But remember, this was Garcia's home country, so he was deported back to his home country. And Chris Van Hollen wants to go try to get him out and bring him back. I never thought you'd hear a day like that with, Mr. President, bring that gangbanger

back right now. There are American women in need of raping and robbing. Can't you just see that? Wow. But this is true. It's a true situation. You know, I kept wondering if there was going to be a bad situation for the Republicans in the midterm elections. If you have more Chris Van Hollens that are more worried about fighting for an illegal alien deported back to his home country,

I don't know, Republicans may gain more, even if the economy does go a little bit sideways, don't you think? My goodness, unbelievable. Keep it up, Democrats. Also speaking of illegal aliens, Gavin Newsom is asking the United States for a $2.8 billion bailout of Medicaid. Now here in Oregon, it's the Oregon Health Plan, right? In California, Medi-Cal.

$2.8 billion bailout to close the deficit in the Medicaid program. Oh, okay, so he's not actually asking for the United States to bail it out. Republicans have been critical of this loan. This is actually a loan. Gavin Newsom is borrowing money, borrowing money to pay for illegal alien health care. That is absolutely, absolutely sustainable, don't you think? Just a wild, wild time. I don't know, I don't know where to go in this particular world and story. Just amazing.

Another story coming out of the state legislature. With federal electric vehicle support uncertain, Oregon lawmakers are thinking about revamping the tax rebate, the subsidy for electric vehicles, to prioritize poor people. So we love poor people so much that we want to saddle them with a vehicle, with an electric vehicle. That's what they're hoping to do. But of course this is the climate friendly equitable community. Right now there are a couple of rebates, standard rebate, $2,500 back to anyone who buys a new electric vehicle or plug-in hybrid under $50,000. Boy, that's a high order, isn't it?

And then there's the charge ahead rebate applies to households making from 51 to $251,000. Those households can get up to a $5,000 back. But yeah, they're trying to get more poor people into the EVs, which will probably end up forcing more people into public transit. I didn't know. But there they go.

You want more people with EVs. No, we wouldn't want someone just going out there and buying a Toyota Camry for $4,000 or $5,000 without taxpayer subsidy. We got to get the taxpayer subsidies out there but they're not thinking that the federal government is going to pay for any of this. Measure 114, this recorded in the Oregonian this morning, Measure 114 is going to be appealed again to Harnie County gun owners backed up by the gun owners of America

we'll talk with Kevin Sterritt about this too I'm sure a little bit after seven they have asked the Oregon Supreme Court to weigh in on whether the voter approved gun control measure 114 adheres to the state constitution. Of course it doesn't, but a lot of governors or a lot of judges have been saying that it is somehow, you know, contorting themselves as a limbo beneath the rules here. But Tony Aiello Jr., this is the attorney who's been working with Kevin Starrid a lot, he's arguing that the state's high court should clarify Article 1, Section 27 of the Oregon Constitution. That's our Second Amendment there in the Oregon Constitution, which technically is stronger than the federal

one. But anyway, slim 50.7% margin, and a Harni Court judge blocked the law from starting and then ruled in November 2023 that it violated the state constitution, but then Oregon Court of Appeals found in March that the measure doesn't violate the state's constitution. But yet, you have to get a permit to get a permit to get a gun. And so how can you have a constitutional right that you have to get a permit to that the government could say yes or no to? These are going to be one of the big questions. We'll talk more about that and various other news items too.

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Eric, great to have you back on. Good morning, sir. Oh, thank you, Bill. My head feels like it's on a swivel. I feel like a bobblehead on my dashboard. I know. Everything that's been going on. If it's not the tariff things, if it's not the lawfare going on, it's just, well, yeah,

you can't sleep. That is for sure here. One of the talk about, you know, because a few weeks ago we had talked about last call for the Chrysler Hemi. Where's the Dodge Hemi? I forget. Is it Dodge or Chrysler? Or both? Well, both. They offered that engine in a variety of Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep, and Ram vehicles. But as we all know, they pulled almost all of them out of the lineup after the 23 model year. And so there were a number of what they called last call or final edition versions of vehicles like the Charger and so on that still had the

Hemi and of course the dealers marked these things up because everybody thought well my god this is my last chance to buy one of these things. Well now they're coming back with the Hemi again in these models and that's great you know I'm very happy to hear that but it reminded me and you'll remember this and some of the people listening to the show will remember, back in the 70s, Cadillac said, well, 1976 is going to be the very last year we'll be able to sell a convertible, Eldorado, or any convertible. Oh, yeah.

I remember the Eldorado, and they were marking those up like crazy, too. Same thing happened, right? Yep. Well, and that was because of federal roof crush standards, which they just couldn't figure out how to comply with and have a convertible body so it is decided we're gonna stop making them and then we'll sell a few more of the last calls in seventy six and charge people a fortune for it and that'll be the end of it well fast forward a few years and they did figure

out how to manufacturing compliant convertible and they started selling convertibles again and a lot of people who bought those last call seventy six alderado's were really angry about how they had been gouged for these cars which now weren't worth nearly that much because after all you could go out and buy a new one. Yeah exactly. So this is have a bunch of these hemi's rather been sold with really jacked up prices or it might there be a little bit of conversation with car dealer that did that to them I don't know. Oh no they were really jacked

up because you got to go back in time. You know, if you're going back around 22 when it was announced that they were going to stop making them and you know, it just seemed evident to everybody at the time that that was it. It was going to be the last call. And, you know, if you wanted to own a piece of history, if you wanted to own one of these things, the 23 models were the very last ones. So, of course, the dealers marked them up. There was a lot of demand for it.

And, you know, demand is going to spike the prices that's all entirely understandable but now you know Stellantis which is the parent company that owns the Dodge Chrysler Jeep and Ram brands is desperately trying to put the Hemi back in the vehicles because their sales are tanking they just can't get people to buy the vehicles that they tried to replace the V8 powered vehicles with so totally understandable, but I think they're probably going to face some lawsuits over this because there are a lot of people who paid $100,000 for a V8 powered 2023 Charger or Challenger who are

probably not very happy right now. If you're saying that it's the last time you're going to sell these things, then it better be the last time, right? Yeah. I mean, they even put serialized plates on them. You know, you got a plaque, you got this, you know, look, it's one of the very last ones. Well, turns out it's not going to be the case. All right. There's an article you just posted this morning, Eric, and it's called, it's not recreational anymore, and it has to do with the rise of people living in RVs, right? Yeah, van life, you call it, you know, because rents and mortgages have become so expensive that a lot of people are turning to living in a motorhome or a travel

trailer as a way to curb their expenses, and particularly in California where it's gotten so out of hand that particularly young people can't even afford to rent a room anymore while they're going to college so they are uh... living in their vans or vehicles or whatever they can find it it's better than living in a tent right it's better to living on the street uh... the benevolent california state legislature is apparently going to give an exemption to these college-aged kids but not anybody else anybody else's poor who wants to try to

uh... keep a roof over their head in an RV or a camper is still going to get rousted by the cops. So it's just interesting the way they're doing this as a sop to the youth, but they're still not addressing the problem of unaffordable rents and mortgages. Well, you know why they're doing it to the youth though, because they're only doing this for college students living on cars and campus. I was just reading this, Politico first reported that thing thing and the Democrats are pushing this. You know why? Because they're going to the state university system which is essentially a hard left inculcation camp there and they're

thinking that that's alright, we're going to be minting more of the people that will help continue to make Oregon, not well, Oregon too for that matter, but California the excrement hole that it has allowed itself to be turned into, you know? Yeah, and the really ironic thing is probably a lot of those kids are the ones who support such things as building codes in California requiring that all new home construction be equipped with solar panels and EV charging capability. Okay, by the way you'll be happy to know I was just talking about this before you came on Eric, but the state of Oregon is wishing to revamp its electrical device, its EV credit

to encourage more poor people to purchase these vehicles. And it would apply to electric vehicles that are new under $50,000. How many are there? Do you know? Just a handful. I'm trying to think. There might be, let's see, the Chevy Spark, the infamous Nissan Leaf, of course. But those are $30,000. That's the entry price point for the lowest cost. Yeah, $30,000 to go, what, 105 miles, that kind of thing, right? Right. Right,

exactly. So let's see. If you're somebody who qualifies for the earned income tax credit, you're gonna be wanting to buy a $30,000 vehicle and then what upgrade your house to the capacity to use a level two charger. You got a couple thousand bucks laying around to have an electrician come out and do that. And of course it assumes you have a single-family home and a place to park one of these things or run the cord to the outlet. This could be quite interesting but remember Eric it's always about the climate. So you know purchasing the EV in the poor household will help them out there. Well and it's hallucinatory because most of these kids you know who are supporting this stuff they're not actually the ones

who are dealing with it. You know they also think I'm struck by whenever I see these young kids protesting, for example, about stopping oil and don't eat meat, and they look well-fed to me, and they don't look like they're freezing, and they don't seem to understand that the mona doesn't fall from the sky, and the refrigerator is not going to be always full, and it certainly isn't going to work if there isn't power to run the compressor. Darn straight, yeah, I don't know. Do you think at some point today's youth that have been inculcated this with this fear, this fear basis against everything carbon dioxide for so many decades now, do you think at some point

it's like they wake up out of a dream and realize that they've just been had the entire situation, it has just been one big lie that they've been fed? I think some of them will but the worrisome thing is that some of them are now mentally ill, you know, and I put them in the same category as the people that you still see walking around with masks on, particularly the ones that have the mask under their nose. These people, I mean I'm not trying to be mean but they're mentally ill. They've got a problem, they need therapy. And people who are in that situation are not people who are amenable to reason and facts

because you know they're mentally ill. That's the problem. I was out shopping the other day and I was saddened. I think it's at a grocery store. I'm at a grocery store and it's a basic place. Everything's fine. I was surprised at how many people were wearing masks but I was surprised at how many people were wearing masks, but I was surprised at the age of the people wearing masks. There were a few elderly people who genuinely looked kind of on the not so healthy look, okay? So maybe they're thinking they're compromised on their immune system. But I was looking at kids, kids and young adults. I'm thinking you people are supposedly the most vibrant, have the best immune system

of everybody in here, and you're thinking that the air is just a terror for you right now, that this is something to be totally frightened of. I mean, this inculcation is, COVID I think broke these people in some ways. It did, and it's really sad. Whenever we go whenever we go shopping, you know, I will generally encounter somebody who looks like they're, you know, roughly high school, early college age cashier, just like you described. And I see people at the gym where I go to work out who are clearly in their 20s and they're still doing it. And how can you evaluate this other than that they've been broken, as you said? Is it a security blanket of some sort? I don't know.

Well sure. I mean if you buy the narrative that there's literally death in the air, that you're terrified of breathing because you might get whatever it is and it's going to kill you, you've been hystericized to a point of total irrationality. Before all this stuff happened, it was understood that a person who constantly had to wash their hands, who wore gloves, carried around a Windex bottle to spray doorknobs and things like that, you know, like the comedian Howie Mandel. It was understood, look, this poor person suffers from hypochondria and some of them pathological

hypochondria. They can't deal with life because they're so afraid of getting, catching a cold and getting sick. And that's what we're dealing with now as a mass phenomenon. Eric Peters is here with me. EPautos.com. It's the Wheels Up Wednesday segment. If you have a question or want to comment to Eric about a vehicle, maybe you're looking at here, maybe you have some questions about one you're thinking about purchasing, let us know about it. 7705633, 770K MED. We'll continue shortly. of Northstar trailer to match your truck? No problem. Did the size of the Horizon trailer you had in mind just sell? No worries, another one's on the way. So come sniff around and find,

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Repairs so good, it's 770-KMED. And you can talk with Eric Peters at EP Auto's 770-5633. Hey Eric, before we get into the quick lube peril, I think that was one of the best articles I read here recently on what goes on there at some of the quickie lube shops and some of the issues that we need to watch out for. That red flag article, you know, you end up bringing up articles and stories every now and then in which we still have police officers that seem to go after people in this country who have the temerity of demanding their constitutional rights. And could you tell us a little bit about what happened to that individual in there? It's worth watching. I ended up watching the video that you posted. It's one of these really depressing videos that you can readily find all over the internet on YouTube

and other places like that. So a guy who was traveling through the state of Georgia stops briefly to park his car in front of a convenience store slash gas station because it's a thunderstorm and he doesn't feel comfortable driving in the rain. So he parks his car, decides he's going to sit there, wait out the storm read a book somebody inside the store uh... call for cops and says oh there's a man sitting

in the car outside in the parking lot so the cop show up and uh... you know they ask him what he's doing and he is a very articulate calm guy into the book i'm just i'm on my way to somewhere and i'm just stopping because it's raining it's clearly raining uh... and that's that's it you you know? Okay, what's the problem? The cops can't let it go. They demand to see his ID. He says, well, if I committed a crime, is there some reason you need to see my ID? Of course, there isn't, other than obey my authority. And long story short, they wind up arresting this guy

because he dared to assert his constitutional right to not have to produce ID in the absence of a crime or any real suspicion that the guy had committed any crime. And the cops literally said that for them it's a quote unquote red flag when somebody declines to simply obey, irrespective of their legal obligation to obey. The red flag, the red flag when someone actually knows their rights and dares to assert it in front of authority. That is astounding to me. I can't believe this kind of stuff is still going on. I can't either and particularly the thing that's so dissonant about it is they call themselves law enforcement and that's supposedly their job to enforce laws and yet they don't even know the law or they don't care and they will go ahead and make

up law and then enforce that which essentially means just do what I say regardless because I've got the badge and the gun and it leaves a very foul taste in a lot of people's mouths and it creates this in my opinion totally totally unnecessary antipathy between good decent people who you know aren't looking for any problems and are just trying to go about their business and law enforcement and they could run the guys license plate no there was anything going on if it was a stolen vehicle or

something like that. Well sure and if you watch the video there's nothing sketchy about this guy he's driving a late model vehicle he's well dressed he's articulate and again he's not you, he's articulate, and again he's not, you know, he's not angry, confrontational, he doesn't even raise his voice, he just asks questions. And that's apparently enough to trigger the, you know, the hut hut hut routine, the cuff and stuff routine. So this poor guy ends up getting arrested, his car ended up getting impounded. I don't know what happened subsequently because the video is pretty new, but at the end of the day the other tragedy is that he'll probably end up suing. And rightly so. And frankly, he should sue and win on something like this because he committed no crime.

Now, there was talk that the Quickie Mart owner or whoever was didn't want him sitting there or wanted to trespass him off there. Well, trespassing him off means that you say, hey, they don't want you sitting around here. And then, okay, all right, then you move along. That kind of thing. Nobody came out to the guy and said, hey, what are you doing? We'd like you to leave unless you're a customer. Nobody did that.

And when the cop showed, he said, look, I can leave. I'm happy to go. I didn't realize I was causing a problem. So the trespassing thing is ridiculous. But to get back to the thing we were just talking about, if he sues, it's not gonna be these cops who abuse this man who have to pay out of their own pocket, it's going to be the pockets of the taxpayers of the municipality, whatever it is, the

county or the city where this happened. Yeah, that's one issue that I think we have here and I don't think that... I don't think you could get anybody to be a police officer if you said that they were completely, you know, financially responsible for doing something like that. But there should be some skin in the game, don't you think, Eric? Honestly? Well, we have skin in the game. What restrains us, other than our moral compass, from abusing somebody else in a manner like

that? Well, we know in the back of our minds if we do something like that, we're probably going to get sued. And I think that that's a pretty reasonable, corrective thing, don't you? Yeah, I do too. It's a red flag is what it's called. Great article on epautos.com. It's not just about cars, but it's also where cars and politics and your rights and for

the cops to actually admit that, you know, when people are asserting their rights, that's a red flag for us. It's like, yikes. You know, it's like, what country do these people... Apparently they must have gone through the public school system in which you have the right to obey authority. I think that's what the First Amendment says, right? Yeah, I mean, it's becoming like the Palestinians not to open up that whole can of worms, but essentially now anything less than cringing servile obedience to whatever

they tell you constitutes an excuse for a wood shampoo. Yeah, not a good thing, alright. Hey Eric, I want to talk about something which I think that many people can use this information. I thought it was a great article you put up there. It's called, Beware the Quick Lube Peril. And a lot of people will go to the quickie lube type places. They're convenient and you know, you get it. And you're able to do your oil changes changes more quickly more conveniently. You're not

having to get messy. I tend to do most of mine myself. That's the way I've tended to to work it except I hate doing it on the Passat because the Passat has that that cover bolted to the bottom. The underbelly pan. Yeah the underbelly pan and it's a pain in the butt to get to and plus Volkswagen used to the cart not the cartridge air oil filter, but Or the one canister. Yeah the canister, you know, that's inside the yeah I hate that thing is just it's just a mess to deal with but be that as it may a lot of people use the Quickie lubes and also a lot of people have tended to have problems and you're trying to help people avoid that and what's the story?

Well, the bottom line is you get what you pay for you know and what you're paying for is quickness and cheapness typically at these these quick loop places and that's what they advertise well how do they do that well they do that by trying to get you in and out as quickly as possible and by not hiring a trained mechanic they hire some guy and they call him a technician who learns how to take off an oil pan drain plug bolt and remove an oil filter and use a gun to fill your engine up. The problem is that sometimes they mess up. Sometimes they will put too much or too

little oil back in your engine or they may over tighten the oil filter causing it to leak or worse they might cross thread the bolt that goes into the oil pan, strip it, and then not tell you because you know they don't want to be the ones left holding the back for that. So you get left holding the back when you drive away from the place and a couple miles down the road, your engine oil drains out all over the road and your engine locks up. So it's really important to double-check. What I mean by that is, you know, pop the hood, check the dipstick yourself before

you leave, make sure the level's correct, look underneath the car while it's running to see whether anything is dripping, and if it is, don't leave until you get a satisfactory explanation as to why it's leaking. And by the way, check the dipstick yourself to make sure that it's correct. Because you're right, they have the oil gun, and I think they just dial in a certain amount that they want to put in there and sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not, and it just shoves the oil in there. Too much oil can be just as bad as too little oil, isn't that right?

Oh absolutely, because you'll get churn inside the crankcase aeration and foam and all of that causes problems. You know, you and I and everybody else who does it themselves will pour oil into the engine quart by quart or maybe you'll buy a jug that holds a gallon. And it's a fail-safe because you know exactly how much you're dealing with. These guns, if they're not, they have a big oil drum and they've got a gun and they shoot in the prescribed amount, but if they don't double-check it, it's very possible and very easy for them to put in too much or too little. Now I know what happened with my wife Linda before I met her a number of years ago.

She had an old Ford and she drove it into a quick loop place at one point. And they honestly, I don't know if they didn't put the drain plug back in or if it was leaking or whatever it is, but she ended up driving maybe about four or five miles, blew the engine up, right? No oil inside there and there may not have been very much oil that was put in, but the quick glue, of course, said, well, it wouldn't take it, it wouldn't cop anything, you know, to that. They wouldn't do anything about it, but so they just had to junk the car and I have to think that that is, I mean, it's not like it's common, but it's not uncommon either, I

guess I wanted to say. Absolutely, you know and particularly again given that they are in a hurry. They're trying to make money on volume and you know if you're talking about whether it's car repairs or surgery, if you're dealing with somebody who's trying to get it done quickly rather than right, the odds of a problem happening go up. 7705633, we're talking with Eric Peters this morning, great article, Beware the Quick Lube Peril. And you really want to drive it out of there once they get done, let it idle for a little bit, look and see if you're having any oil leaking on it,

and make sure and check the dipstick yourself after you shut the engine off. I think I mentioned one other thing I think that readers or listeners might be wanting to know about. You know, a lot of these places also, and I'm not trying to malign anything, I'm just pointing something out, they may not be using the highest quality oil or filter. They may be using some generic brands that are less expensive, and that's one of the way that they reduced costs. So people might want to check into that because modern engines are very finicky. You know, a lot of them have very specific recommendations as far as what you ought to

use. And you know, it's probably not going to as far as what you ought to use. And it's probably not going to cause anything immediately to go wrong to use a lesser quality, but down the road it might. And these poor quality filters do not hold up as well over time. So it's just something to take into account. And the other thing you have to keep in mind is that many of these newer cars have ultra thin oil. I can't believe the low viscosity numbers I'm seeing like yeah, oh w13, you know that kind of thing

Yeah, you know zero w something weight. Yeah, just I mean stuff that would never pass muster you thinking Oh, well, that's okay. You can put 15 w 40 in no. No, you really don't want to do that either Okay. All right. Let me go to the phones here Eric people want to talk with you and we're always happy to take your calls on wheels Up Wednesday. Good morning. You're on with Eric Peters. Who's this? Good morning. I wanted to mention to you guys that the other day, of course, I thought of a lot of you guys because I heard a segment on how the second largest electric automaker in China now that's totally taken eating Tesla for lunch is that they basically were a computer, their computer company. They just put wheels on their computer and now they're going crazy.

So that was one and then the other. I guess you don't want me to mention websites, do you Bill? Well, I heard one and sent, and this is kind of terrifying, but there's one sent, projectcensor.org that they have so much good stuff on there about what we don't know and the other one was surveillancewatch.io. And that is my gift to everybody for the day because I think it makes you realize how creepy it is. I appreciate it. And thank you. Sorry to start the day with that.

Thank you for letting us know. Surveillance.io. Well, Eric, after I get to any reading EP audios, I'll have to go over there and see what's happening. Yeah, I'm hip to both those sites. And as far as the first comment, I think the caller was referring to BYD, which is the big player over there. And yeah, they are going gangbusters because, of course, it's a state-sponsored enterprise.

They have a kind of a state capitalism system now. It's not really communist per se. And of course they, you know, are making very low priced EVs relative to Tesla's. BYD has models that sell for around 10,000 bucks. So naturally that's going to sell more of than Tesla's that start around 45 or 50,000. For sure. This is KMED, KMED HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Let me go back to the phones here. You with Eric Peters? Hi, good morning.

Who's this? Hey Bill, it's David. David, fire away. I was gonna tell you, the biggest scam about the quick glue places is not so much their fault, but it's putting this ultra thin oil in cars that have 150,000 miles plus

when the motors need a little thicker oil. And I was gonna tell Eric, and maybe he knows this, the BMW released a 1060 oil. And I was gonna tell Eric, you know, and maybe he knows this, but BMW released a 1060 oil. It's a little hard to find, but they gave it to the dealerships and they said, hey, you need to start putting this in the cars once they get over a certain amount of miles in them

because they were acknowledging that the motors were worn out. But you know, if you read the actual technical data on a lot of these engines, they'll say, you know, let's say you have a car that says, okay, we need 0.20, but you read the book and you'll find out you can use, the manufacturer actually tells the shops, well, you may use thicker oil in the car, but the quick glue places keep putting this ultra thin oil in the car. And I do in my industry see that it's, at least in my opinion, responsible for failures

in the engine. So too thin of an oil, then on a vehicle, your car's about 140,000, 150,000, you got a lot of bearing clearance at that point, right? Yeah, well, the main reason for these zero-weight oils has nothing to do with longevity, it has to do with compliance. If they can reduce even by an absurdly fractional amount the amount of gas that a car burns in terms of cafe compliance, the federal fuel economy requirements, they'll go with these zero-weight oils because it's that important for them to comply. That's the only reason for

these those weights of oil. All right, David, I appreciate the call. Of course, David's a mechanic. We always appreciate getting his take on it, so he knows his stuff for sure. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Morning, Bill and Eric. Jeff. Hi.

Hey, you were saying that California was an excrement hole. Well, I wanted to tell you, we've got one out here. It's called an outhouse. Yeah, of course. But, yeah, on the quick loop thing, when my wife and I got married, I actually went to a quick loop. Having been in the automotive business since 1978, I was kind of like getting out of it and maybe I'll try the quick loop thing. So after I paid my money to do that, I drove away and thought, why did I just spend this

much money to have my oil changed? Because it was like three times what I could do it myself and I never went back to another quick loop again. I understand though, you know, a lot of people don't really want to get dirty and I've had good experiences at them too. We're not trying to tar the industry but I think Eric's article though... Yeah, it's just an experience. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Eric's article really was about making sure that people should just double-check the work. That's really what you were getting at, Eric.

Yeah, it's just due diligence. It's kind of like, you know, if you have a medical problem, I'm not talking about something that's acute, you know, like a compound fracture, but at least something's bothering you. So you go in to see a doctor and the doctor tells you, well, you need this or you should take that pill. Rather than just agree with him and do whatever he says, it's wise to get a second opinion before you make a decision. In other words, due diligence, just be careful and check up on things. Indeed.

Because cross threaded drain plugs or missing drain plugs or too much or not enough oil, it's, you know, it happens. And so people can make mistakes and you got to check up on that. Let me take one more call here. Hello, you're on with Eric Peters, who's this? This is Todd.

Good morning, Eric. Morning Todd. Really quick. When you talk, we're talking about the police and that horrible incident. I'm retired law enforcement. In my academy, when I went to police academy in California, we had multiple classes on the constitution and they would bring in a district attorney to teach us what we were allowed to do and what we were not allowed to do. And I can

specifically remember the DA saying, if you do not have probable cause to demand ID from somebody, you can't do anything. If there's a violation of law, there's probable cause, yes, they do have to identify themselves. So please, please, please do not lump all cops in because some podunked police department did something really, really stupid. That's where limited immunity comes in. If you're within department policy and you're following the law, they cover you. If you're outside the law and you're just, you know, you're a wingnut and police are just people too. So they're stupid cops. They're emotionally distressed cops.

Please, please don't judge us all by that. I'm glad that you were taught that Todd. I'm just wondering though, do they teach that to all police officers in the academy, everywhere in the country, do you know? Absolutely, that is universal. Otherwise your department and you are gonna get sued into oblivion.

But I will say this, there are some podunk police departments. I remember I was taking an armorers class put on by Colt and the guy that taught the class was from the ATF. He had to go out throughout the country to teach these armor classes. He was talking about how frightening it was to go into some backwater areas how stupid the cops were. So that was a little jarring for me. And believe me, even I grew up in LA. I've met horrible cops in my life. I've had cops point guns at me for no reason when I was growing up. So I've seen the crazy side of police, but they are not supposed to do that. They're taught constitutional law, so they and their departments are not sued.

I really appreciate the call. Thank you for that. You bet. Bye. Yeah. It's refreshing to hear a police officer, someone who was a police officer, it said, yep, I've seen good ones and I've also had other ones point their gun at me. It's like, oh, yikes. I think that's evident. I think part of the reason that we have an issue today is that this attitude that we're civilians, meaning you and I, you know, and a lot of cops regard themselves as almost a soldier, you know, and that implies that we're the enemy. I think

it would be very helpful if we got back to the attitude that the police are citizens and so are we. And, you know, we should not be treated as if we're, you know, potential Osama bin Laden's just because we got pulled over for a dead taillight. I really do appreciate, you know, that, you know, actually going to that motto, protect and serve. That's actually is a good thing. That's an honorable way of looking at the gig. But I think that what happened is post 99-11 things got, went a little bit side, well a lot sideways really because I think we ended up getting into that the first responder hero thing of all time. Yeah.

That and also all the surplus military gear that was doled out to departments all over the country. So now instead of you know dressing like a cop you know basically wearing a collared shirt and you know and slacks and all of that, now they wear body armor and they've got Batman gear and if you dress like you're going to war you probably have the attitude that you're at war. Although I have to tell you I don't think I would step out in a squad car without a bulletproof vest. I don't think I would these days. Yeah I get that. I get that but at the same time I do think that if you're gonna sign up for that of work, you ought to be willing to take a degree of risk and not treat

every single person that you come into contact with, especially over trivial traffic violations, as potentially the next Osama bin Laden. All right. I can appreciate that. One more call and then we'll have to cut you loose here until next week here, Eric, but I always enjoy the talk. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, you guys. This is Vicki from the Applegate. Vicki, question. Go ahead. Actually, I didn't have a car call question.

I had a comment about the police. Okay. When my daughter was, it was quite a few years ago, when she was getting a divorce, she was separated from her husband, and he came down from Salem, and a sergeant came to our property and knocked on my door. And I've always respected the police. I mean, they are there to protect and serve us. Yeah, what happened?

And he ended up telling me that I was a sub or I was a co... Anyways, he wanted me to take these papers and I said, well, my daughter's not here. She doesn't live here. And he said, if you don't take these papers, you can be charged and jailed. And I was like, what? And so I took the papers and I said, I don't think that's right. He said, call the courthouse. What was he being, a process server? think that's right." He said, call the courthouse. What was he being a process server? Yes, and they told me, no, you did not have to accept those. So he basically lied right to my face. Great. So the next time he came, well I talked to his sergeant, the next time

he came out I had a gait up and I walked down to the end of the driveway and he had papers in his hand and I told him straight to his face, I said, you know what, I come from a military background, my dad was in the hand and I told him straight to his face I said you know what I come from a military background my dad was in the Navy I don't like liars and you blatantly lied to me I said I went to your superior and you will be disciplined for this well of course he you know they get they feel like they're more powerful than the average person. And when he went back to the station, he got suspended because he just blatantly lied to people to make them take documents that they didn't have to take. So that kind of soured me

a little bit, you know. I try and do the benefit of the doubt, but I don't trust them as much as I used to, which is really sad. All right, I appreciate your call there, Vicki. Really, wow. Eric, before we take off here, I don't know if we're going to have time to actually talk about your latest review. What is it? What did you take a look at here so that we'll know? Well, it's the Honda Pilot, and it's the last Honda other than the Ridgeline, which is essentially a pilot with a bed in the back, that still has a standard or even an available V6. Remember when you could get in accord with a V6? Yeah, yeah. I will suggest people go to EP Autos and read it. I read that review last night. Pretty good stuff there as

always. And what do you think you're going to have next week? I know. They're dropping off. I know. I actually checked this time for you, Bill. It's going to be the Hyundai Santa Cruz, which is kind of the rival to the Ford Maverick. It's one of these little sort of kind of pickups that's really based on a car, but nonetheless, it's a way to have a vehicle with a bed that doesn't cost you $50,000. All right. Very good. Hey, thanks, Eric.

We'll talk next Wednesday, as always, on Wheels Up Wednesday, okay? Be well. Thanks, Bill. EPautos.com.