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Episode Date: April 20, 2026

Morning opinion, who of the top 4 candidates for gov do you lean toward? Dr. Douglas Frank joins the show, election integricy, baby! He is here Next Monday and we talk all about the issues in play with the vote.

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Kind of like saying that I was just too hard on the Republicans for not getting into each other's face on the Thursday night debate. Well, Judy, you and I will gently disagree, okay? And part of that is because I'm looking at the Oregon state race as so key. This is so, well, it's a dangerous time. It's a dangerous time. I don't expect the Democrats are necessarily going to punish a very unpopular Tina Kotech, all right? She may be unpopular, but she's their unpopular person, and they're most likely going to stick with her.

There's nobody really to correct her at this point. And the only thing that would cure it is removal. And even then, even if you get a Republican in there, it is going to be a tough, tough slot. But at least he or she would have the veto pen, right? There you go. You can at least have some check on the insanity of what runs the state of Oregon. That being said, though, you got a couple of weeks before the ballots start coming out, and I would have expected more fight.

That's what I was talking. That was the point I was trying to get out on Thursday show, or Friday morning show about the Thursday night debate. It said it wasn't a debate. So what I want to do this morning is toss it to you because we haven't really opened it up to who are you leaning to and liking and why in the Oregon gubernatorial GOOP primary race right now? And so I'd love to get your take if even if you live in California or Washington or you know, tell me who you're thinking of everyone you've heard about so far. Who do you like the most so far?

Now there's the top four, according to the polling. We're looking at Christine Drazen, looking at Ed Deal, State Rep Ed Deal, Senator Christine, Drayson. We have Bethel, Commissioner Bethel from Marion County, and you have Chris Dudley. Now, Chris Dudley, took a million dollars in from Phil Knight. Money's okay. Bethel, not nearly as much. Ed Deal lent himself a couple hundred thousand dollars from what I recall in the Orstar,

so you get into the bait deal. Christine Drazen, money's probably okay. I would imagine I haven't checked her Orstar account as of late. But of those four candidates, who are you leaning to, if any, are you going to do the Hail Mary votes like the David Medina or something? Who are you liking and tell me why? Because the candidates themselves were not fighting each other on Thursday, which is the problem I had with it. It's not that I woke up in the morning and just say, man, I can't wait to bag on those rascally Republicans over at the debate. Thursday night, right? My problem was not that they weren't talking or not that they weren't

coherent, but that they weren't trying to make themselves obviously a difference with the other people on the stage. And I don't know if they're still with that, you know, the Ronald Reagan 11th commandment, you know, that kind of thing, thou shalt speak not ill of a Republican, but that doesn't work when you're in a primary. You know, the time to, you know, stop the fighting each other is after you end up battling it out in the primary. Who is the strongest? Who do you think has the best chance? Now we have a couple of Oregon right to lifers endorsement there. Ed Deal, Christine Drazen, you know, they're both endorsed from that, from what I understand.

Ed got the Oregon Firearms Federation. And I would say that Chris Dudley is more of a moderate on abortion. We'll call it that. And then Danielle Bethel. Of course, I'm not sure about that, but, you know, Daniel Bethel, a good county commissioner from all accounts, and has a good business experience there, too. I don't think that she has a lot of gas in the tank. That's just my opinion. But looking at it, maybe a rising star for later on, okay?

But still, she is in the top four right now. But who are you liking in why? And maybe if you can think about your particular candidate on how they're in the top four right now. are going to be able to persuade a statewide vote to because we always have to remember as much as I would like to think that we could have every Republican vote and then we end up getting a Republican in the governor's mansion. That's not the way it works. You will have to persuade a certain percentage of dissatisfied.

I don't know if you have to persuade dissatisfied Democrats as much as at least the non-affiliated voters, people who may not pay as much attention, may not understand. But do you have an opinion on the various candidates and tell me why? All right, 770563-3-770, K-BD. So if they're not going to fight on the debate stage, which I thought was what the whole purpose of having a debate was, and maybe you fight on their behalf. How about that? 770563. Let me grab a call on this or anything else in your mind, too.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. It's Francine. Francine. Go ahead. Okay.

Personally, I don't even have a favorite because I don't, you know, I don't have much faith in anybody in politics. anymore. However, I don't want to be, I don't want to be cynical about this, but one of those individuals running for the GOP nomination will get it. So, you know, if you had a choice, who would it be? Here's what, what I feel is, you know, even if it's, you know, people are getting, what's the guy that, you know, has admitted that he's not against, totally against abortion, you know, he's not a true right to life. Yeah, that's Chris Dudley. That's Chris Dudley. Yeah. I mean, okay, even if he were, we're seeming to be the most popular, I would prefer him.

Just whoever can win is what I want. I don't care about the little details. We can get past all that. We can end up changing that eventually. We need to get Oregon out of the hands of the Democrats, period. Even if we have one that reaches across the aisle a little bit, it's still a step in the right direction. Okay.

So you're just saying all, you know, is that someone who could win? Out of the ones that I mentioned, though, which one do you think could actually win? could take that battle to the very end? I think, I think, what's his name that you just told me his name? Dudley. Dudley. Yeah, I think he might. I don't know, Cotech.

I'm not Cotech. What's her name? Deal, Christine Dresden. Senator Dreson. Yeah, she might be the most popular. And even in spite of everything I think of her, if that turned out to be the case, then so be it. Bill, it's really important that we get this away from the Democrats. Yeah, and I think it's important to get the win for the Democrats, too,

but I'm also looking for the strongest candidate of all. And that's why I'm asking, I'm opening this up for people's opinions about this. I mean, there will be the candidates that I really like that I think, you know, have a great way of thinking, but, you know, there's probably no way you're going to be able to have the gas in the tank to take it to the end. You know, and you have to be able to do that, right? Yeah, I don't think a deal is going to top it. I just don't. I mean, it's a pretty good candidate.

No, I don't think, I don't know. I haven't seen much enthusiasm. Heard about a whole lot of enthusiasm towards him. Have you? Yeah, well, actually, I have. I have. I have been hearing a bit of that. But that's all right.

That's all right. I'm trying to find out. I'm trying to find out where people are right now. Okay? That's what I was trying to do. All right. So you told me. All right.

It's one person. That's one listener's opinion here on what we're looking here in the gubernatorial candidacy box. morning. Let me grab another one. Hi, good morning. KMED. Who's this? Morning Bill. Hey, it's got Eagle Point professional driver and part-time rancher again. Okay. I would say Chris Dudley, even though he's from Portland. But hey, anything's an improvement is what I think she was trying to say, the first caller. Yeah, I definitely, I'm getting a little bit more into politics. I've been in business with my father. I've been all

through all kinds of different businesses and not real sustainable. But I think rural Oregon needs some help big time. The cost of things is so expensive. They look differently in Portland. They look at like, you know, 10 miles or 20-mile radius. We look at thousands of miles in acreage that we try to make some kind of money on. So, yeah, I would go for Chris. Stunley. I find that interesting. All right, so, but you're a person, like you said, you haven't

paid much attention to politics, right? Is it, did I hear of you correctly? Absolutely not. In business, you try to be Switzerland if you can, but behind the scenes after a cigar and maybe a beer, you talk business and you're like, man, we don't want these guys. Everything, all of our money goes north, Bill. All of our money goes north. The DMV here is the most popular DMV in Oregon and the money just goes to light rail or whatever it's going to be used for. We don't want that. Yeah. All right. Hey, I appreciate the call there, Scott. Thanks for it. 770 KMED. Now, see, there's an individual who, his way of thinking of things and just starting to pay more attention

to politics, realizing that being a business person, he's on the menu, big time, in the state of Oregon. Let me grab another call. Hi, KMED. Good morning. Who's this? Randy from Medford. Randy, what are you thinking today? What's on your mind. Well, I am thinking Ed Deal, and I'll tell you why, because he was like, he led that whole vote to, you know, to put a stop the Cotex gas tax and all that kind of stuff. And I appreciate the fact that he took that on, he initiated it. That has a big feather in his cap, wasn't it? That was a pretty big feather in his cap. Yes, it was.

All right. And then for Grayson to try to take some credit for that half. That is taking a feather out of her hat, you know what I mean. Okay. Hey, I appreciate your opinion. Thanks for making it. That's why we want to just open it up. What are you feeling?

What are you thinking? Are you feeling sympathy? Are you feeling squishy? Are you feeling all solid? Hey, I know who that is. That's Gene. How you doing, Gene? Morning.

Doing fine. Well, there is two points I'd like to bring up. Okay. As for voting, who did Chris Jason or whatever name is? The one that's in office right now. Yeah, Senator Drazen, right. Yeah. Well, how did she vote on the Tampax in the boys' room?

She voted for it along with practically everybody else in the Republican Party. I think he had to go look at the Senator Robinson's and the Senator Lymphicums and the Senator I think, gosh, I just forgot. I forgot her name, a female senator. And I just forgot her name. But, yeah, they're about the only ones that voted against it. So the Republicans got snookered on that hard. Big time.

Big time. Yeah, well, how she voted says how I will vote is not. Okay, you're going to make me spit my coffee out. All right, thanks, Gene. What's your second point? Go ahead. Okay. You're bringing up Biden and President Trump for being rich.

What about Obama? Obama's quite wealthy now, too. I'm just talking about the most recent occupants of the oval orifice. Okay. Well, they're doing a lot of talking about Obama been around with Biden quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, it could be. Amazing how much money they all make on that $450,000 a year, isn't it? It's astounding.

Yeah. And also, he wrote kids' books while he was his own. in office on taxpayer money. Who did? Obama. Oh, Obama. Okay. All right. Well, thank you for that. I appreciate the call. 770KMED. We're talking about the gubernatorial race right now. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Joe, Jerry. Hi, Jerry.

I'll be honest here. I don't know much about the candidates on the Republican side. However, I do think somebody who wants to turn around the tax structure for businesses at all levels is important. You know, we can't afford to lose businesses who want to leave to go to other states because our tax policy is so crippling. Are any of the top candidates striking you as more business-friendlyer than others in your mind? You know, Bill, I heard just a little from Ed Deal, I think on your show recently. I did hear a whole lot, and I don't know if he has a business background or not. Well, he is certainly a business person, big business. Okay.

Big business person. So anyway, now, I bring this up because I obviously know, about the Dutch growth situation. And I think there's others too up in the Portland area who's left. Anyway, I was at the Rogue X yesterday at the Rod and Customs show. A small little business there.

It was not a car business, but it was a distillery and little sandy organ, which is approximately 30 to 40 miles from downtown Portland. Sure. Anyway, they served, we sampled some very good rum there. Anyway, at the end, he told us, he says, you know, we are like the most heavy, the second most heavily taxed state in the country.

And he was talking about from their perspective, their distillery tax were like 40% or something. It's pretty intense, isn't it? Well, I mean, if I were in that business, I'd say, yeah, that's intense. Yeah. So is someone like that small distillery business, are they paying attention to the gubernatorial race? Well, I did ask them about politics. They were just telling us to, you know, if you see, he did mention some bill regarding this issue. And he did talk about the Spirits Guild or something that represents them. anyway, my point is, you know, whether it's a distillery or some other small business, I mean, we can't, Bill, that's like, that's like, you know, poking yourself in the,

and letting your blood flow out. Yeah, so it's all about the business. All right, Jerry, thank you for the call. I appreciate it. I'll grab a couple more, and then we'll break for news, and then Dr. Douglas Frank joins me on Voter Integrity. I'll be a great talk afternoose. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Welcome. Hey, it's Logan, Bill. Good morning. Hey, Logan, go ahead. Give me your pick. Well, I'm the under 50 pick, I guess. The only one under 50 listens to your show that calls in. Anyway, so for the younger group...

No, it's not the only one. The only one that's loud enough like you. But anyway, go ahead. Appreciate it, Bill. Thanks. Hey, that said, you know, a lot of people are... It's just wild how every four years we just, like, fall for the same old, same old. But I hear a lot of people...

I mean, people need to look at... Crazy Dream isn't so crazy. She brought up a really great point. You know, if people are going to side with it, oh, that's what everyone has to do. Well, no, you don't. You can choose to say no. You know, voting for the Tampex in the room, another big deal that people need to think of with that deal is, you know, his ability to just say yes to House Bill 2010 that allowed extended health care to illegal immigrants. You know, we need to fix our systems.

Yeah, there's more to it than that, and you're kind of smearing him by saying that, though. It was way more than just the health care for that. You know that. And you should know that. It was just like it was way more than just tampons in the boys' rooms. But it doesn't matter. A little bit of that is a lot of, you just say no. We need people who are willing to say no.

All right. We appreciate that. Thanks for the call, Logan. All right. We're going to close calls here for just a little bit because Dr. Frank could join me here in a couple of minutes. Dr. Douglas Frank's going to be here a week. from tomorrow at the Jackson County Republican Party headquarters talking election integrity.

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a week from today. I had actually conflicting calendar dates here, and so I will fall on my sword on this one. You're going to be... Not your fault. The schedule changed. Don't you, brother. We are in Jackson County. You are in Jackson County at the Republican Party headquarters, and that's going to be a week from today, a week from today, 6 to 8.8.30 p.m. at 112 North Front Street in Central Point. And this is a free event, and they come and they listen to you. And you have been, I remember when I saw you in Josephine County a few months ago, and you were talking about how it's amazing how Jackson and Josephine County were overachievers,

you know, more people on the voting roles that actually exist as far as physical voters. And you're digging into this and a whole lot more. Could you tell us, I mean, where do you even start on such a big deal? Because some are saying it's the counter, some are saying it's the voting system like vote by mail like we have. There's no real security in a vote by mail system, you know, frankly. And then other people are saying, hey, it's algorithms and software. Do you have hit all of it? Is that what you work on? Tell me a bit about that.

That's a great, you've been studying. That's excellent. In 2021, Mike Lindell made a documentary movie about me one hour long, which 12 million people watched, which I showed algorithmically what was going on in our elections. So yes, algorithms are definitely playing a role. The problem with that approach is that when you show that to people, they go, wow, that can't be real. And I say, yes, that's right. It can't be. But there's nothing you can do about it after that. People will say, well, yeah, something's wrong.

But now what? So what I've, I've gravitated towards your voter rolls because we can do something about that. So, for example, the state of Oregon's been sued by the Department of Justice and been sued by judicial watch. I had something to do with that. The reason we did that, because then we can prove in a court of law that your voter systems are illegal and out of compliance. So which we've done that. So then if your voting systems are out of compliance and are legal, why are you using them? Why are the counties using them?

Especially when we can show that the system that's being imposed upon you by the state is disenfranchising you from your constitutional rights. What do I mean by that? Well, when we look at your voter rolls, what do we find? We find your voter rolls are full about one-third of the people in there don't belong there. And you're mailing ballots to them. So county commissioners like this story because then they don't have to send so many ballots and they save money. They like that. County sheriffs like it because why are we mailing ballots?

to people who aren't real voters, and those are being cheated, so it's disenfranchising their citizen from their constitutional rights, because sheriffs are the constitutional officers. By the way, Oregon, you guys have some of the best sheriffs in the country. I know I've been in all the states. I know the lay of the land. So what I do is I give local people copies of their voter rolls, and I teach them in their elections. And by actual fraud, I mean, like, people that have been dead for 10 years, but somehow they're voting in every election.

or people that live in another state now, and they're voting in that other state, but yet somehow they're still voting in Oregon. Now, Dr. Frank, how do you find out if somebody has been dead in or voting? And how would you even get a chance to look at this? I'll give you an example of something that happened here, which had me scratching my head in frustration a couple of years ago. It was a few years ago that state senator Thatcher and state senator Lenthencom at that time,

both filed suit and they wanted to actually look and examine the ballots of the Oregon elections. Like, there's one in here in Jackson County. One other one in Josephine County. You want to do this. And Jackson County ended up telling them, and this is because of rules imposed by the Democratic Secretary of State, that you have to make sure that there is absolutely no identifiable personal information on a ballot before we let you take a look at it. and then the county was going to charge close to a million dollars.

This was following the rules of the Secretary of State. Well, it seems to me that it's obvious that in Jackson County, they didn't want anybody really looking at them. And so, to me, it's just something that if you're not going to let us look, that's an example of Hinky. Would you not agree on something like that? Yeah, I would agree. And that strategy that you're discussing is why I usually don't go down that road.

Because looking at the ballots takes court orders, huge amounts of money, blah, blah, blah. The state doesn't want to give you access. By the way, half of the counties in Oregon don't have anonymous ballots anyway. I testified in the Washington County lawsuits in 2022, and we proved that in court that the ballots are not anonymous anyway. But nevertheless, giving the ballots back to the people to count them is kind of a futile exercise anyway, and here's why. Okay. Because you're mailing, so for every three ballots you mail in Oregon, two are going to real voters, and one is going to somebody who isn't a real voter. What do I mean by that?

Somebody who isn't a citizen, somebody who's dead, somebody who doesn't live here anymore, somebody who doesn't even know they're on the rolls and their dresses off, et cetera, et cetera. And so the problem is you're flooding the market with ballots. You're just littering the neighborhood. So anybody who wants to cheat, they just scrape those up and turn a minute. in. So then recounting the same fraudulent ballots over and over again doesn't prove anything. You need to prove that the ballots you received are not from the voters you think they're from. And how do you do that in a vote-by-mail system, Dr. Frank, in your opinion? Well, what we do is I give people copies of the voter rolls, and I've delivered the vote rolls to them on a silver platter, all set up so that they can see problems.

And what happens is they'll say, well, wait a minute, this person has been dead for two. 10 years. Obviously, that person didn't cast a ballot. Who cast it for them? She's that's a dead giveaway that that ballot you counted, that you credited to that name is not who voted. Or another way we prove it is we'll knock on the door and say, hey, John Smith says here you voted. And John says, I never vote. I don't believe in voting. I think the whole thing's rigged. We hear that story all the time. Well, that guy didn't vote, but yet we counted a ballot from them. or John Smith moved to Texas and he's voting in Texas, and yet somehow a ballot's being turned in for him in Oregon. And so we contact him in Texas.

I have a nationwide infrastructure for this. We'll knock on his door and say, hey, John Smith says you voted in Oregon. He says, no, I didn't vote in Oregon. I voted here in Texas. So in other words, that's how we prove that the ballots you're counting there are not really from the people you think they're from. All right. Now, what percentage would you estimate, you know, even just looking at Oregon's vote-by-mail system, if you were to estimate a percentage of problematic ballots because, well, the state of Oregon has admitted that we have had some non-citizens voting,

but they said like 1,500 or so. And they said, but that's okay. That's all right. And then they stopped looking, from what I understand. But they're going to tighten up everything in the future, I guess. What do you think? They say, yeah. So, for example, your Secretary of State just said, oh, yeah, and by the way, this is a consequence of the lawsuit that I set up in your state. He said, oh, yeah, we're going to remove 800,000 people from your voter rolls. Okay. Well, think about that. He's admitting your voter rolls are dirty, okay? I've been telling everybody that since 2021. And everybody's like, oh, no, you're just a whack-a-doodle, Dr. Frank. Well, guess what? Here we are. We proved it in court. Now he has to comply. And when you think, think about the numbers. You had 3.1 million people active voters in your voter rolls,

but you only have 3 million people 18 and older, including non-citizens. So you already have more, quote-unquote, active voters in your roles. So, and those aren't the ones he's claiming to remove. He's claiming to remove the inactive. So the problem is your own state has admitted that your system is really upside down. You're giving ballots to people who you shouldn't be giving ballots to. That's the key problem. So if you wanted to just make an estimate, just based upon that alone, I don't even have to, I don't even have to make a guess. You're already around 5% of the ballots that are coming back should not be coming in. And even if you were to go with 5%, 5% of voters that shouldn't be there, that's certainly enough to sway certain elections and certainly

citizen initiatives and ballot measures, I would think? 100%. Absolutely. You've made yourself vulnerable. And a lot of the counties think their elections are okay because they're conservative counties. You know, you've got 36 counties, but 32 of them are pretty red. Well, a lot of times when I visit those counties, they say, well, what do you worry about? Dr. Frank? We're doing great here. I ask them about those school board races and everybody's eyes roll because guess what? In those small turnout elections, that 5% is even more important because it can, you know, a few ballots here, a few ballots there, you can tip your city council races, your sheriff races, your county commissioners, all those local races,

school board races are easy to manipulate when you have so much credit line of ballots available. Is there a reason, and I'm wondering if maybe the reason there hasn't been as much focus on trying to get this cleaned up, Dr. Frank, is that depending on what state you're in, whichever one party is in charge. In other words, if you're Republicans in Texas, you like the way the things are right now. If you're a Democrat in Oregon, you like the way it is right now. If you're in California and you're a Democrat, you like the way things are. Is there a certain amount of that?

It's bipartisan. They're okay with the squishiness if it benefits them? That was brilliant. You're right on target. For example, Oregon has 105% of their people registered. They're a blue state. Kentucky has 105% of their people. registered. They're a red state. I tell people everywhere I go, it's not a Republican Democrat

issue. Whoever's in control likes it that way and likes keeping the control. So that's what we're up against. All right. So you're saying go after the voter rolls and not pay attention. No, try to go out there and prove the election machines or on the web, or do you get into that at all as part of your agenda? Oh, we don't even have to prove that in Oregon. In the Washington county lawsuit, your Secretary of State and Attorney General admitted right in the legal briefs that all your machines are networked. And they're online during the election. Well, if they're networked and online, a bad actor could hack it, couldn't they? Absolutely. And they could flip ballots. But what I usually see is they're not the machines

is not necessarily to flip ballots. They can. The role of the machines is to keep the bad actors informed to how many ballots they need to cheat an election. So, you know, if you know at all times, hey, we need 100 more ballots because we're behind such and such, well, you just look up in the rolls and see who hasn't voted yet and you turn in a hundred more ballots. That seems to be, to your point, I am always amazed at how often I go have a statewide election that is relatively close. And then, gosh, you know, in the middle of the night, you get the Multnomah County, Portland area of votes that just seem to come out of nowhere, and then it's a completely different election by the next day. That's sort of the symptom of what you're describing, I guess.

It is, but don't be fooled. It's not just Multnomah. It's in every county in Oregon, and that's what I show people. Like when I go over to east of the Cascades and I sit in those beautiful red counties, they say, well, we don't need you here, Dr. Frank, everything's okay. And I say, oh, yeah, have a look here. I mean, think about it. Sprinkle a few percent in every county and all those eastern counties, and you can control every election in the state. The thing is, is they don't think it matters much because it's a small amount. But when you add it up over all those counties, da-da-da, there you go, that's the problem. Yeah, Dr. Douglas Frank once again, and he's going to be here a week from today, Monday,

the 27th of April, 6 till 8.30, 112 North Front Street, Central Point, and we're talking election integrity, which is what he's going to be digging into. And by the way, which I always think is interesting is that you have the free training seminar. That's the next day. And what do you do in that seminar, doctor? Well, what happens that I give the public event, people come, and it red pills them. It's like wakes everybody up and they're like, oh, my goodness, this is real. What do we do?

What do we do? And so I don't like to just leave people hanging. So the next morning I say, well, come on in. By the way, I don't charge for any of this. And I organize a local team. I train them and I give them copies of their own voter rolls and show them how to find fraud. then when they find the fraud, we organize that into a nice, clean, report, simple binders, we call them. And then there are multiple counties already in your state that have already done this.

And so then those counties all stand together and we teach them how to do that to tell the state, hey, we don't have to comply with your non-compliant systems. They're illegal. Here's the fraud that is being generated because of it. So guess what? We're going to save money. And we're going to have integrity in our elections again. our local people will trust them again, will improve our turnouts and our integrity, blah, blah, blah.

Well, part of the issues I think people have when I have no doubt that when you go to some people's doors, I never vote, it's rigged. Yes. That really is a sad disenfranchisement and people, you know, take themselves out of it because that feeling that the system is hinky, and that's not good. And restoring this, it would be a good thing. Now, I know, you know, our county clerks are doing their best to do a good job, but my opinion has been that they're kind of, are they kind of hamstrung by the Secretary of State, which technically gives them all the rules they have to follow, rather? What do you think? That's a great point. And yes, the clerks, honestly, and I don't need to disparage your clerks. Most of the clerks I've met in your state are honorable people full of integrity. But yes, they've been hamstrung by the system.

that's being imposed upon them. So I always tell people, look, if the governor said, we're going to come around your neighborhoods and collect your guns, what would you say? You'd say, you know, go pound sand. We're not going to get them to you. Why can you say that? You can say that because it's unconstitutional.

It's disenfranchises you from your civil rights and your constitutional rights. Well, it's the same way that they're about it. If we can show that the policies and the systems that they're imposing on you are creating fraud in your elections, you don't have to comply. But the clerks nevertheless feel intimidated by the state clerks association and the Secretary of State. But that's why I've been doing what we call the Oregon Blitz. I'm organizing multiple counties. I've been in all of your counties except for eight.

Once I've been in Jackson next week, it'll be down to seven. And I'm meeting with your commissioners. I'm meeting with your clerks who aren't afraid of me, by the way. Clerks tend to be afraid to me because they think I'm after them. I'm not. My whole goal is to put your local clerks back in charge. of their own election. Right now, the state, everything is centrally controlled, everything is manipulated centrally. That's the problem. And we can prove that. And so once we've proven that,

then the county commissioners and the clerks say, look, we want to take this back local. That's my goal. Dr. Douglas Frank with me. We grab a caller too for you, Doc. He always stir the imagination there. Hello, caller. You're on with Dr. Frank. Who's this? Hey, Bill, deplorable Patrick here. Hello, DP. Yeah, this is not Alice in Wonderland. This is deplorable Patrick in Wonderland. What are the chances if we could get a Republican governor of people being convicted of voter fraud and doing a hard time?

Hear about it. But for example, just this year, we finally got sentencing for a gentleman in Lodi, California, who we convicted in 2022. So when you say what are the chances, they're pretty low because courts don't want to prosecute this and they don't want to sentence it. But we have fraud all over the place. We bring fraud to the sheriffs all the time. But to get it prosecuted, that's a whole another ball of act.

All right. We'll grab one more here for Dr. Frank. Good morning. Hi. Who is this? Morning. Jim and Medford. Hello, Jim.

Question? Go ahead. I just have a cool question. What's the procedure to find out, let's just say, make it simple here, you got all the ballots that just came in and they're laying on the table or whatever they do with them. How do you find out which ballots? That's the whole point. That's why I don't use that strategy.

Now, the envelopes would be useful because you can show that the envelopes, the signature isn't the signature that matches the real voter. But there's a, what do I mean by that, where they've listed everything. every person that is credited with submitting a ballot. And we go over that list, and we find all kinds of people in the history. In other words, it says John Smith voted, but guess what? He didn't vote because he's dead, or he doesn't live here, and he votes somewhere else. So we don't look at the ballot necessarily. That's not very productive. Now, I say that on the one hand, but on the other hand, every one of your counties that uses the clear ballot system, it's about 13 of your counties,

They have a QR code on them, and that QR code is not anonymous. Your ballot is not anonymous. We can trace that back to a voter. So on the one hand, in general, I would say we don't look at the ballots, but on the other hand, we have the ability to when we need to. Do you know if Jackson County or Josephine County use the clear balance or is that the larger county? Something tells me it costs money to do that. The clear ballot system, you know, I don't have it off the top of my head. What counties have we used which system?

I'm sorry about that. I wish I was ready on that one. That's okay. Come to my presentation and ask, and I'll be ready. All right, very good. So this is going to be a week from today, 6 till 8.30, 112 North Front Street, Central Point. That is the Republican Party headquarters, and it's a talk with Dr. Douglas Frank, absolutely free.

But, of course, I'm hoping that people will, you know, put some money in the hat, so to speak, to take care of your expenses and such. And then the next day, the training event is it still, well, I guess you're going to say where the training event's going to be that night, right? You'll tell them. Yeah, we'll announce it that night before, yes. And I appreciate it. You know, I don't charge for any of the work I do. I haven't charged since December of 2020 when I was asked to be one of the auditors on the Pennsylvania election. I don't. The reason I don't is because I don't want anybody to confuse my motives. I'm in this for the fight for our country, for our liberty, for our constitutional republic. And that's why I'm in it. And so I appreciate it when people chip in, though, it pays for all my tickets and hotels and stuff. All right, very good. Dr. Frank, final question I have for you. What do you think about the Save Act? I know it's been kind of bottled up in the Senate for a while. Any thoughts on that? Sure. A lot of times people think that the solution is, you know, Trump, you know, we're in the Trump slump.

My friend, Chris Ann Hall calls it, where everybody says, okay, we elected Trump. Now he's going to fix everything. Well, you've seen that that is not the case at all. The swamp is still just as deep as it has been, and he's up against quite an obstacle. But let's just say that the SAVE Act is able to be passed. Already, most of the states in the country are not complying with federal law as it is. Passing another law is not necessarily going to fix it. I know, let's pass another gun law. That'll fix violence. The problem is the states aren't following the laws and nobody's enforcing them as it is anyway.

So I'm not really optimistic about that. That's why I work at the county level and organized counties. That's where the real action is. That's where the real battlefront is. Interesting. Yeah, my concern has been that with Oregon being a sanctuary state, anything involved in trying to get some accountability, whether it's the election system or ID, because the real ID is sort of irrelevant in the state of Oregon because they give real IDs to anybody,

as long as you just prove. You know, it's not a proof of citizenship here, the state of Oregon, but not all states are like that. You just prove my point, exactly. All right, very good. All right, Dr. Frank. Well, we're going to catch you next Monday. All right. We'll see you.

All right. Look forward to seeing you. Thank you. Thank you for the call. Dr. Douglas Frank, once again. Next Monday, 112 North Front Street, 6 p.m. until 8.30. It is going to be at the Jackson County Republican headquarters. Absolutely free.

And we'll talk about the next day free training, too.