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                                         Glad you are here this morning. We continue digging into the latest of the news. This time
                                         
                                         we're switching over to the legal world from the medical, from my last guest here. Of course,
                                         
                                         that was medical and legal. Really, we were talking about that with COVID policy. But Mike
                                         
                                         O'Neill joins me from Landmark Legal.
                                         
                                         And it is so great having you back, Mike. There is just, gosh, where do we even start? Over the
                                         
                                         weekend, the Supreme Court ends up voting 72 to pause the refugee flights to Tren de Aragua,
                                         
    
                                         or Araguan, I don't know, whatever it is. But needless say, the Dad of the Year from Maryland is supposed to be returned.
                                         
                                         We're not going to do any more of that because we know that we have a lack of MS-13 equity
                                         
                                         here.
                                         
                                         We need more beatings and rapists and criminals in our country here.
                                         
                                         But take it away.
                                         
                                         What do you think about what you've seen so far? A 7-2 vote on the weekend.
                                         
                                         And we are, it's, I can understand, it's confusing to me and I'm trying to stay on top of all this.
                                         
                                         I can understand how confusing it would be to somebody who just is trying to tap into the news of the day
                                         
    
                                         and understand what's going on here. Let me try to unpack a few things for you here.
                                         
                                         The Supreme Court over the weekend took a really, I think almost unprecedented
                                         
                                         step. It was almost a midnight order. It was something that it was issued an
                                         
                                         unassigned order that halted the proceedings, the removal proceedings of
                                         
                                         all those Trento Aragua members going down in Texas and Louisiana
                                         
                                         respectively. Remember, let's set the stage here. Is the Trento Aragua was
                                         
                                         designated a foreign terrorist organization with ties to the Venezuelan government that that means we
                                         
                                         talk about this is gangs a lot of people use the terminology of gang such
                                         
    
                                         criminal gangs I don't really like that terminology because I don't think it
                                         
                                         places it's a proper context the context here is these are narco terrorist
                                         
                                         organizations that are here in the United States at the behest of elements
                                         
                                         of a foreign national government it's these are narco-terrorists. This is almost a defense national
                                         
                                         security operation rather than a criminal operation. So when you have
                                         
                                         the president deporting these individuals using that
                                         
                                         1790s era law, you're thinking that this war, that it is a sort of
                                         
                                         war, right? Is that where you're going?
                                         
    
                                         Well, yes, certainly.
                                         
                                         Absolutely.
                                         
                                         This is the Alien Enemies Act.
                                         
                                         This is a law that's been on the books, as you just said, for a couple of hundred years.
                                         
                                         But this is an important law that sets the president with the power to take actions to remove
                                         
                                         individuals who are in this country who are participating in militaristic narco-terrorism.
                                         
                                         I think that's a really good term, narco-terrorism.
                                         
                                         Think about this.
                                         
    
                                         We think about the effect that 9-11 had on this country.
                                         
                                         Say 3,000 Americans died.
                                         
                                         But also let's think about the effect that these narco-terrorists have in our country.
                                         
                                         Importing fentanyl, for example, how many tens of thousands, almost 100,000 Americans
                                         
                                         die every year from fentanyl overdoses?
                                         
                                         We talk about human trafficking.
                                         
                                         We're talking about all kinds of murder.
                                         
                                         We're talking about all kinds of murder. We're talking about really terrible.
                                         
    
                                         These are the, this law, the Alien Enemies Act is resolved, is reserved for the worst
                                         
                                         of the worst.
                                         
                                         These TDA members, these Trende Aragua members, are really the worst of the worst.
                                         
                                         And that's why it's an exceptional law, an exceptional remedy utilized in exceptional
                                         
                                         circumstances.
                                         
                                         And I think by, by hook or by crook, we are really in exceptional circumstances in this
                                         
                                         point in our country.
                                         
                                         We had open borders for years under Joe Biden he let he
                                         
    
                                         imported actually people let anybody in virtually and so is that these TDA
                                         
                                         members present in our country represent a clear and present danger to the
                                         
                                         American people so we president took these actions again it's a lot to
                                         
                                         impact but ultimately what's happened is these to the extent they haven't already
                                         
                                         been removed to El Salvador they are residing in confinement in Texas and Louisiana.
                                         
                                         And what happened was they have, amazingly, not amazingly, but I mean that sarcastically,
                                         
                                         they have the best lawyers in the country acting on their behalf, apparatus of the Democrat
                                         
                                         Party and of the left.
                                         
    
                                         And so they've petitioned for these individuals to have habeas proceedings.
                                         
                                         And what happened was a couple of weeks ago, SCOTUS did rule, the Supreme Court ruled that
                                         
                                         these individuals are entitled to some sort of due process.
                                         
                                         And this due process, again, these are TDA members, not that Garcia guy who's already
                                         
                                         down there.
                                         
                                         But these are TDA members are entitled to habeas petitions and habeas proceedings.
                                         
                                         Well, that's going on now.
                                         
                                         But the Supreme Court, again, over the weekend fast forwarded, fast-tracked a lot of this
                                         
    
                                         stuff and decided it was gonna weigh in on
                                         
                                         An emergency petition to it say we're gonna issue an injunction and we're gonna stop any removal of these individuals
                                         
                                         Pending any of these outcomes of these habeas readings. Well, this is problematic for a couple of reasons
                                         
                                         Number one the Supreme Court can only hear cases again. It's an appellate to the cat
                                         
                                         It's the court of last resort bill
                                         
                                         It's the court where when you have an appeal you have a district court issue an opinion
                                         
                                         You have an appellate court, a middle level appellate court issue a decision,
                                         
                                         and then you have the appeal, the ultimate endgame is you have the Supreme Court hear
                                         
    
                                         the case. Well, the Supreme Court hijacked all that process and set aside all of its
                                         
                                         normal processes, all of it that it follows, and just decided it was going to issue this
                                         
                                         order, and it was going to certify this class of individuals too. It's going to loop all those TDA members into one certifiable
                                         
                                         class. Well, the Supreme Court doesn't do that. And under our procedural, under the
                                         
                                         regular orders of procedure here, it's incumbent upon a district court to have a factual hearing
                                         
                                         to determine whether the elements of class certification are met. And again, these are
                                         
                                         all procedural safeguards that are put in place to ensure the due process of law.
                                         
                                         The bottom line here is what happened with Supreme Court over the, over the, over late And again, these are all procedural safeguards that are put in place to ensure the due process of law.
                                         
    
                                         The bottom line here is what happened with Supreme Court over the late at night issued
                                         
                                         this opinion that really hijacked it.
                                         
                                         Very disappointing from my perspective, particularly since it was a 7-2 opinion.
                                         
                                         I encourage all your listeners to take on and read Justice Alito's dissent in this,
                                         
                                         where he really lays out a lot of the problems with this.
                                         
                                         Justice Alito is a clear voice of reason here, who really kind of burns through all of the noise that's
                                         
                                         going on and really gets right to the heart of it. And so would it be fair to
                                         
                                         say that probably joining him was Clarence Thomas? Exactly. Okay, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Alright. Alright. What was disappointing was the fact that there were a couple
                                         
                                         other justices who've so far been generally okay from my perspective,
                                         
                                         who were part of this opinion, namely Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh I wish it but just as a leader did issue this forceful dissent
                                         
                                         for what good that is but it certainly does that highlight a lot of the problems here
                                         
                                         but this is from a bigger perspective what's problematic about this is that we're in this
                                         
                                         new era here where it just seems this unceasing lawfare is continuing to be to be waged and
                                         
                                         we're all having to wrestle with all these jurisdictional, procedural matters, and a lot of,
                                         
                                         you're setting aside a lot of the normal order of business
                                         
    
                                         to somehow, someway protect these bad guys.
                                         
                                         And I think that's really unfortunate.
                                         
                                         Mike O'Neill from the Landmark Legal,
                                         
                                         from Landmark Legal once again,
                                         
                                         also Landmark Legal Foundation,
                                         
                                         the Ronald Reagan Law Center.
                                         
                                         I wanted to touch in, by the way,
                                         
                                         you can find out more and read up on this,
                                         
    
                                         LandmarkLegal.org, I wanna make sure and get that,
                                         
                                         even though I'm going to share it
                                         
                                         later this morning anyway on my blog.
                                         
                                         Where do we find when it comes to the deportation world?
                                         
                                         Because I wanna be clear here that all of these trendy
                                         
                                         Orwauga folks, these folks, were never authorized to be here.
                                         
                                         Is that true? Never, ever legally authorized to be in this country, correct?
                                         
                                         Yeah, yes, the individuals who are here, I mean, that's always your entry.
                                         
    
                                         And that's the initial point that needs to be making, that none of these people are here
                                         
                                         legally.
                                         
                                         And so, I know I talked about the Garcia case, for example, the guy who's in a different
                                         
                                         gang.
                                         
                                         This is an MS-13 member who is here illegally.
                                         
                                         And that needs to be established and that needs to be reported and repeated over and
                                         
                                         over again.
                                         
                                         And that's why it kind of boggles the minds for somebody watching this who's saying,
                                         
    
                                         wait a minute, these guys are here illegally anyway. They're getting sent back to either their country of origin in the case of the Garcia
                                         
                                         gentleman or a narco terrorist being imprisoned in El Salvador, because they're part of a
                                         
                                         narco terrorist organization and they can't be sent back to the Venezuelan government because
                                         
                                         they have connections with Venezuela. Needless to say, also Venezuela is an adversary of the United States.
                                         
                                         Now what I'm trying to understand here, and I'm hoping maybe you can help other people understand
                                         
                                         this too, if you are here illegally, you have never been authorized to be here, why does all of a
                                         
                                         sudden there is a magical demand for due process to return someone who never was supposed to be here
                                         
                                         in the first place? And the reason I bring this up is that if this kind of behavior stands in the
                                         
    
                                         judiciary and the, in the United States, larger,
                                         
                                         what they're essentially saying is that everyone who is here illegally will have
                                         
                                         to have a hearing, whether it's 10, 20, 30 million.
                                         
                                         That's essentially saying no one's going home. What do you believe here?
                                         
                                         What do you believe is going on here?
                                         
                                         I think that, I think now it's becoming clear that this was part of an organized effort by the saying, no one's going home. What do you believe here? What do you believe is going on here? Yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                         I think that, I think now it's becoming clear that this was part of an organized effort
                                         
                                         by the Biden administration, the previous, by the Biden administration to import hundreds
                                         
    
                                         of thousands of millions of individuals here illegally to break the system.
                                         
                                         That they know that there are laws on the books and there's, there's Supreme Court cases
                                         
                                         and precedent cases on the books that afford individuals who are subject to
                                         
                                         removal proceedings some element of due
                                         
                                         process. Now what does that mean? Does
                                         
                                         that mean a hearing notice and hearing
                                         
                                         before an administrative law judge? Does
                                         
                                         that mean a hearing where they're going
                                         
    
                                         to petition for...
                                         
                                         Now why isn't it just as simple as, okay,
                                         
                                         where is your green card or your visa?
                                         
                                         You don't have one, goodbye.
                                         
                                         Okay. Right, exactly. Exactly. But I think
                                         
                                         now that they've mired, again, the cabal of attorneys, cabal of interest groups, aided
                                         
                                         by the importation of tens of millions of illegal immigrants into this country, have
                                         
                                         really, with the goal, one of their outstanding goals is to say, okay, we know that they have
                                         
    
                                         laws on the books. We know we're going to be able to hold the administration's feet,
                                         
                                         the term administration's feet to the fire. We know we have sympathetic judges that have been played sympathetic judges who
                                         
                                         are going to bog down this process and we're going to break the system by simply overwhelming
                                         
                                         it. And I think that's important to know. This is why it's important here that the Supreme
                                         
                                         Court speak with one voice and say, okay, to the extent of which these individuals are
                                         
                                         entitled to any kind of due process, whatever that means, substantive due process or procedural
                                         
                                         due process, that means that due process or procedural due process
                                         
                                         that means that they should be entitled to what i notice in the hearing maybe in
                                         
    
                                         front of a l j
                                         
                                         uh... administrative law judge and you know all of the ministry what judges
                                         
                                         you properly quickly but this this this instance there's no way district courts
                                         
                                         can hear tens of thousands it's not billion hundreds of thousands of cases
                                         
                                         it's just an impossibility and your point is well-taken well we throw up our
                                         
                                         hands okay universal embassy because there's no way to deal with this. I think that certainly
                                         
                                         is an end game and it's important to talk about it and identify it as such.
                                         
                                         What else should we be paying attention to as far as the lawfare drama this week that
                                         
    
                                         you think is most important? By the way, Michael Neal is with us this morning.
                                         
                                         This is adjacent to this. This is what's going on with another, as I was talking about the
                                         
                                         Garcia case, the district court judge in Washington, D.C. This is what's going on with another, as I was talking about the Garcia
                                         
                                         case, the district court judge in Washington, D.C. This judge had had his case actually taken out of
                                         
                                         his case. This is where Supreme Court did the right thing and they said, if you're going to bring
                                         
                                         these petitions for these individuals who are being detained, you have to bring it in the venue
                                         
                                         where they're being detained. And that means you have to do it in either Texas or Louisiana,
                                         
                                         as I was saying. But this judge in Washington, D.C., another district court judge, decided he was going
                                         
    
                                         to revive this.
                                         
                                         Oh, this is the Boasberg fellow, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         In criminal contempt.
                                         
                                         And now criminal contempt, again, here is another extreme remedy that's rarely invoked,
                                         
                                         particularly by a district court judge.
                                         
                                         I don't think it's ever been invoked by a district court judge when the case has been
                                         
                                         already taken out of his jurisdiction, out of his courtroom.
                                         
    
                                         But he revived this issue and now is attempting to hold the Trump administration in criminal
                                         
                                         contempt for defying his order.
                                         
                                         In other words, this was the order he gave where he said, you have to turn the planes
                                         
                                         around.
                                         
                                         And of course, the Trump administration didn't have the capacity at the time to turn the
                                         
                                         planes around and halt the proceedings.
                                         
                                         They comply with the order to the extent that it was given, but they didn't comply with
                                         
                                         it, I guess, to the degree which he wanted it to.
                                         
    
                                         So this judge now is trying to find the Trump administration in criminal contempt.
                                         
                                         If there isn't a prosecutor that the administration designates to investigate this case, his opinion
                                         
                                         says, again, this judge says his opinion will, he will designate an individual to investigate
                                         
                                         the Trump administration.
                                         
                                         Now here we go.
                                         
                                         Are we going to have another special prosecutor online, Jack Smith investigating the administration. It's a big, look, it's a big mess.
                                         
                                         Let me just, let me just bottom line this for you. It's a big mess. And for anybody listening to me,
                                         
                                         I can understand why your head is spinning. Trust me. Us lawyers, our heads are spinning too,
                                         
    
                                         because this is really just, we're in an era right now where every day it seems like something new is
                                         
                                         happening. We're just trying to get our heads around this. But the procedurally speaking the DC district
                                         
                                         or the DC circuit has stayed that. So right now there's not a current investigation trying
                                         
                                         to find the Trump administration in criminal contempt, but that is on the docket and it
                                         
                                         is something that the administration has to contend with. Again, what's the bigger picture
                                         
                                         here is bog the administration down in this unceasing lawfare, stop the implementation of the agenda, slow it down, stop it, turn it around, have investigators
                                         
                                         bog down the system to prevent what? Ultimately, what the American people voted Donald Trump to do,
                                         
                                         and that was what? Get a hold of our immigration problem. So that's really the tragedy going away
                                         
    
                                         right now. Yeah, and get rid of the people who never had any legal permission to be
                                         
                                         here in the first place here. Do you find yourselves, would you go so far as to say
                                         
                                         that we are now in a period in the law where it's a narco-terrany in which, you know, it's
                                         
                                         essentially anarchistic and the only time the law really applies is
                                         
                                         punitively to the people in some form or another.
                                         
                                         Is that where we find ourselves at the moment?
                                         
                                         Yeah, this is my worry here.
                                         
                                         This is one of my big concerns here is that the loss of faith in the integrity of the judiciary.
                                         
    
                                         The judiciary, the best thing it has going for it.
                                         
                                         Remember, the judiciary, the federal judiciary doesn't have any enforcement
                                         
                                         capacity on its own right they don't
                                         
                                         have armies they don't have so they don't have a police force they don't
                                         
                                         have any way to enforce their their their decisions it's just incumbent upon the
                                         
                                         full faith i i use the full faith in credit kind of because that's illustrative
                                         
                                         of it but it's important on the full faith of the american of the american
                                         
                                         people we all believe that these judges and these justices are doing what's
                                         
    
                                         right and so we trust them to do this. What I'm concerned about here
                                         
                                         is exactly what I was saying, is the fact that the American people overwhelmingly, and
                                         
                                         I'm going to say this, overwhelmingly voted in Donald, elected Donald Trump to implement
                                         
                                         an agenda. And one of the primary, one of his primary planks of running was to get a
                                         
                                         hold of the immigration process, is to address this crisis in our country of illegal immigration.
                                         
                                         And from the perspective of the American people, that process, his efforts to address that
                                         
                                         massive problem our country's facing is being hindered and hijacked by the judiciary.
                                         
                                         And it is a big problem that SCOTUS has to contend with.
                                         
    
                                         And I think it's a big problem that Congress is going to have to address.
                                         
                                         And I address this reluctantly. I wanted to see the judiciary fix this problem from its own perspective.
                                         
                                         It doesn't appear that it's willing to. So does this mean that Congress then has to go through
                                         
                                         and strip jurisdiction from courts on certain matters? Yeah, certainly. That's certainly
                                         
                                         something on the table. Also, there's other remedies. Again, I don't want to go down this
                                         
                                         road, but impeachment is certainly a remedy, that's a constitutional remedy, that's
                                         
                                         the constitution to address it. And again, I don't want to do that. I reluctantly come to this, but
                                         
                                         when you continue to see these opinions that are well outside the norm, and it's just, it's, it's
                                         
    
                                         just a heart, you know, it's just, I'll be as diplomatic about this as I can. It's very, very
                                         
                                         disappointing from my perspective as somebody who
                                         
                                         practices in this area. Very good. Mike O'Neill, Landmark Legal Center and Landmark Legal Foundation
                                         
                                         put all the information up and it's great to stay in touch with you and I appreciate you taking the
                                         
                                         time for the analysis this morning and thanks for spinning our heads around several times.
                                         
                                         But that's where we find ourselves. That's why I had you on all right thank you very much Mike be well take care
                                         
                                         you too 726 Wow this is the Bill Myers show hi this is Lisa from Kelly's
                                         
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                                         thing they wish more people would do to save themselves money over WP that's my computer career dot edu slash cwp it's
                                         
                                         the Bill Meyers show on KMED southern Oregon's place to talk you know I was so
                                         
                                         busy Saturday doing other things that I didn't go into downtown Medford or
                                         
                                         Grants Pass or Ashland did we end up having another day of rage in which
                                         
                                         Democrats came out there protesting Trump just Just let me know. I'm curious. I know that over the rest of the state there
                                         
                                         appear to be some. A thousand people according to a registered guard, they say
                                         
                                         a thousand people rallied in downtown Eugene. Did we have the same thing
                                         
                                         happen in in Medford or Brans Pass? I imagine maybe they did that at
                                         
    
                                         the courthouse in Josephine County right across there. Yeah, all the people that feel great love for everyone other than their actual fellow
                                         
                                         citizens, I think. We have to love everybody else more, right? That distorted and inverted
                                         
                                         order of love I was talking about on Friday. All right, all right, all right. So certainly
                                         
                                         add that. You know, there's something else which was going on that was kind of interesting.
                                         
                                         Yesterday, I took mom home after she was over for Easter dinner.
                                         
                                         It was great seeing her. We had her over to the house.
                                         
                                         Now, I see mom just about every day or so. I take her home.
                                         
                                         And so, I do the check and I'm going through the refrigerator.
                                         
    
                                         And, oh, she's almost out of milk. Okay, this is bad because she uses it to take the pills, the phalanx of pills and all these
                                         
                                         other things.
                                         
                                         Got to have milk, got to have yogurt, you know, all these various things.
                                         
                                         And she is a organic baby.
                                         
                                         This is what she wants.
                                         
                                         She only wants organic.
                                         
                                         So I pop over to Safeway and not that I normally shop at Safeway but it's very near where
                                         
                                         she lives out there you know Royal Avenue in that neighborhood over by
                                         
    
                                         Providence in Medford and so I pop over there because that's the closest one okay
                                         
                                         mom don't worry I'll go I'll get you the milk and the and the bananas and we'll
                                         
                                         get all this kind of stuff everything that you need okay the basics the
                                         
                                         basics until she does another food run,
                                         
                                         that kind of thing.
                                         
                                         And so I pop into Safeway and there was not one drop
                                         
                                         of any organic dairy product in the entire store.
                                         
                                         It was like completely empty.
                                         
    
                                         It was all gone.
                                         
                                         And it had a notice on the door that said that due to a nationwide shortage, we're
                                         
                                         having difficulties sourcing organic dairy.
                                         
                                         A nationwide shortage.
                                         
                                         Now I knew we've had some issues with eggs.
                                         
                                         We've talked about that.
                                         
                                         Are you familiar with a nationwide shortage of organic?
                                         
                                         I remember there was a little bit of reporting on that back in February, January, February.
                                         
    
                                         People were kind of concerned about maybe some rising prices.
                                         
                                         But this is the first time I actually saw it.
                                         
                                         It was just empty.
                                         
                                         And Safeway Albertsons, big chain, right?
                                         
                                         But there was none.
                                         
                                         It was all gone.
                                         
                                         It was empty.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         Well, normally I would tend to shop at Sherm's, Food for Less, and so I just headed down to
                                         
                                         Biddle and they were loaded. They had no problem. In fact, I had no problem. So I'm
                                         
                                         wondering is there a nationwide shortage or only a nationwide shortage for
                                         
                                         certain firms? I don't know. But are you seeing something like that popping up in
                                         
                                         your neighborhood grocery store? Just let me know. 7705633. Just something
                                         
                                         that kind of struck me as odd.
                                         
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                                         By the way, we had a operator error
                                         
                                         of your lovely host this morning.
                                         
                                         For some reason in my mind, Nick Card was coming in today
                                         
                                         to talk about the baseball thing. It's going to be tomorrow at 8 o'clock. I said, Hey Nick,
                                         
                                         where are you? I said, No, he agreed on Tuesday. He's like, Okay, sorry about that. But yes,
                                         
                                         yes. Of course, my wife is going to love this. Oh, so you made a mistake. I thought you were
                                         
                                         the infallible one. Yes, I will fall on my sword. So Nick Card will talk, we'll talk that tomorrow.
                                         
                                         Thank you, counselor. All right.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, geez. 7705633. Let me go to Michael. Michael, how are you doing this morning?
                                         
                                         Glad you found your phone. What's on your mind?
                                         
                                         Oh, pretty good. Yeah, I was wondering if you, have you ever heard of floric ulcerativeiferol? Yeah, that's vitamin D3, right?
                                         
                                         Actually, it's rat poison, according to the internet.
                                         
                                         What, calciferol?
                                         
                                         Fluorocalciferol is used in rat poison.
                                         
                                         Oh, that's fluoro. You added a fluoro to it. That's quite a big difference.
                                         
                                         No, chlorocalciferrol, vitamin D3.
                                         
    
                                         Well, if that's the case, I've been taking capsules of rat poison for years and years and years.
                                         
                                         So anyway, I can't figure out if it's the natural form of vitamin D that they're putting in the milk,
                                         
                                         which is from plants and stuff, or the synthetic one that they're using for the same thing they use for rat poison?
                                         
                                         Something tells me it is probably a different version.
                                         
                                         I don't think that the system has descended to the point where they're feeding us rat poison yet.
                                         
                                         Now, there is the rat poison used for a...
                                         
                                         Now, there is a drug, though, which is Warfarin. Warfarin, I forget the name of it.
                                         
                                         It's not Warfarin, but they call it something different.
                                         
    
                                         But that is used as a blood thinner.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they use it for blood thinner.
                                         
                                         That's got to be safe.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and they have to be, and they do this very carefully.
                                         
                                         They have to have you come in and do all sorts of blood testing to make sure that they don't
                                         
                                         overdo it. I'm not making any statements. I'm asking. Anybody can tell me because I cannot
                                         
                                         figure out because nobody knows. Nobody knows. Okay. Let me see. Let me go to the
                                         
                                         vitamin D3 name. What is the actual name? So I'm gonna look at this right now.
                                         
    
                                         I'm looking at my vitamins right here. Chal Calciferol, Vitamin D3.
                                         
                                         Okay. Yeah, no, it's Cola Calciferol. Yeah, a form of Vitamin D that is produced to
                                         
                                         the skin when exposed to sunlight. And it's, of course, that may be when it's
                                         
                                         converted to. And so the CalCy is the prior. And then it gets converted, I
                                         
                                         think, in the liver, maybe. All right, so anyway, you've got me on the tail of some great conspiracy, Michael.
                                         
                                         Thank you for the call, okay?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Let me go to Wild Salmon.
                                         
    
                                         Hey, Wild Salmon, how are you doing this Monday?
                                         
                                         Good to have you on.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm upright and kicking on coffee, so that's a good thing.
                                         
                                         Good for you.
                                         
                                         I don't think you had as much coffee as Mike O'Neill from Landmark.
                                         
                                         Man, I got to tell you, I had a couple of times when I was in the office, I was in the
                                         
                                         office, and I was like, I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office,
                                         
                                         and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to
                                         
    
                                         the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going
                                         
                                         to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office,
                                         
                                         and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to
                                         
                                         go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going to go to the office, and I'm going and taking on coffee. Good for you. I don't think you had as much coffee as Mike O'Neill from Landmark.
                                         
                                         Man, I got to tell you, I had the fellow who was out in Josephine County had Jeff ended
                                         
                                         up writing me saying, man, I want some of the coffee that he has.
                                         
                                         I agree.
                                         
                                         I'll tell you, wake you up.
                                         
    
                                         Well, yeah, kind of like the president
                                         
                                         spokesperson, man, that lady can talk faster than you can think. You got that right. What's
                                         
                                         on your mind today though, huh? Okay, well you were talking about milk and my wife
                                         
                                         went to the doctor, her primary, on Friday and they go through and ask you
                                         
                                         questions. Have you been out of the country?
                                         
                                         Do you have any flu symptoms or cold symptoms?
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         The last question they asked was,
                                         
    
                                         have you drank any whole milk products recently?
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Now I don't know what that's all about,
                                         
                                         but that was the last question
                                         
                                         that when they were checking us in
                                         
                                         and we hadn't drank any whole milk products. We drink, you know
                                         
                                         One percent or something, but I just thought it was interesting that they asked that question
                                         
                                         I I've never had them ask that before. Yeah, what would it be about whole milk that they would find?
                                         
    
                                         Worthy of a talk or a question in a medical system.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         There must be something going on.
                                         
                                         Now, I heard very quickly a story of a couple cows dying and I've not been able to find
                                         
                                         it anymore.
                                         
                                         I did a search this morning for it.
                                         
                                         What was that disease that the cattle had that their brains were wasting and they were
                                         
                                         dying?
                                         
    
                                         Oh, what is it?
                                         
                                         Crutz-Jek...
                                         
                                         Gosh, it's CJB or CJD, I think is what it is.
                                         
                                         The name of an individual, it's a prion disease, I think is what they're talking about.
                                         
                                         They would go into the brain.
                                         
                                         I saw an article about that somewhere.
                                         
                                         It's kind of one of those pop-up things that you look at and you go, oh jeez.
                                         
                                         And then I could never find it again.
                                         
    
                                         They had a couple cows die of something and they were researching what happened to them.
                                         
                                         They were unexpected.
                                         
                                         But I don't know what else is going on.
                                         
                                         All I know is they asked us about that and it was Providence Medical.
                                         
                                         And do they ask you if you're
                                         
                                         feeling depressed and if you felt like killing yourself, things like that, or harming? Yeah,
                                         
                                         that's the dumbest thing in the world. If you feel like killing yourself, you're not going to put it
                                         
                                         down. Yeah, chances are, yeah, I felt like killing myself last weekend. What about it? And then,
                                         
    
                                         because then you could just come back with, you know, talk to the Providence person and say,
                                         
                                         hey, listen, listen, this is the state
                                         
                                         that practically wants to give you a license,
                                         
                                         you know, a license to die,
                                         
                                         as long as you do it through the medical system, right?
                                         
                                         You just go and get that done.
                                         
                                         But in all seriousness, I want to see-
                                         
                                         You're making me feel guilty,
                                         
    
                                         because we did, both of us took the first COVID shots,
                                         
                                         the first round, because we're old and... No, a lot of people did. No, a lot of people did. Now I
                                         
                                         know when I was talking with with Dr. Thorpe last hour and and of course he
                                         
                                         focused it like he mentioned though he focused on a very narrow part of
                                         
                                         medicine and this has to do high risk pregnancies. And high risk pregnancies of course,
                                         
                                         and of course the fetal development of course
                                         
                                         seemed to have been really horribly affected
                                         
                                         with the COVID shots because you know,
                                         
    
                                         we'd cross the placenta barrier causing all sorts
                                         
                                         of bleeding problems according to him.
                                         
                                         So yeah, I get, and yet they were pushing it
                                         
                                         on pregnant women.
                                         
                                         It's like, oh my gosh, no wonder. I wonder if there are any tests for
                                         
                                         ongoing problems of the result of the spike protein. I think there are. I'm not
                                         
                                         a doctor so I'm just kind of spitballing with you. I know that if there is a, if
                                         
                                         you're having a problem with unusual clotting, there is a test, I think
                                         
    
                                         they call it the D-dimer test to see if you have...
                                         
                                         Yeah, I remember one of the doctors from Canada was talking about that.
                                         
                                         But I've had all of a sudden, well, all of a sudden, the last three or four years, I
                                         
                                         have high blood calcium and they've done all kinds of tests and can't figure out why and I've kind of
                                         
                                         decided I didn't care and now they want me to go to the hematology oncology
                                         
                                         clinic and I'm kind of not wanting to do that. Steve, I want to ask you and once
                                         
                                         again this is just stuff I've read, okay? I'm not a doctor, but I will at least ask you,
                                         
                                         do you take vitamin D3?
                                         
    
                                         I do, we both do.
                                         
                                         Do you take vitamin D3 with vitamin K2?
                                         
                                         My wife does, I don't take the K2.
                                         
                                         All right, the reason I bring this up
                                         
                                         is that they're starting to combine,
                                         
                                         and once again, I'm not a medical doctor, I'm just a guy who reads a lot of stuff for, and once again I'm not a medical doctor, I'm just
                                         
                                         a guy who reads a lot of stuff from medical doctors, so I'm not giving medical advice, but
                                         
                                         the reason they're now starting to include vitamin K2 in many vitamin D3 formulations
                                         
    
                                         is because vitamin K2 helps moderate blood calcium level, and the point of that is to keep the blood
                                         
                                         calcium from being deposited on the arterial or on your blood vessel walls
                                         
                                         and they're trying to keep that from happening. So that might be something to
                                         
                                         look into, talk to your doctor about it, but they say it's usually best if you're taking a D3 to take K2 with it for that reason.
                                         
                                         Why is it that those things that they say are good for you
                                         
                                         are so dang expensive?
                                         
                                         Because they're worth it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I suppose.
                                         
    
                                         OK, well, thank you, Bill.
                                         
                                         All right, hey, you take care.
                                         
                                         Good hearing from you, Steve.
                                         
                                         7705633, 770KMED.
                                         
                                         Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this?
                                         
                                         This is Kristen Medford.
                                         
                                         Hello, Kristen Medford. Good to hear from you.
                                         
                                         What is on your mind? It's beautiful.
                                         
    
                                         I got to tell you the day. It's just so beautiful.
                                         
                                         It's going to be beautiful all this week, really.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's going to be gorgeous.
                                         
                                         I actually know the reason why they ask if you have had whole milk products.
                                         
                                         Sure, why is that?
                                         
                                         It is because of bird flu.
                                         
                                         Because cows can catch bird flu and it is killed in the pasteurization process.
                                         
                                         Oh, okay.
                                         
    
                                         So it doesn't kill the cows, but the cows can carry it.
                                         
                                         It's killed in the pasteurization process.
                                         
                                         So if you drink milk
                                         
                                         that has not been pasteurized, then you could potentially get bird flu. So when they talk about
                                         
                                         the whole milk products, they're maybe looking for, are you doing a raw milk product? Would it
                                         
                                         be a more concern? Exactly, raw milk products. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's been one person die of it in the United States this year.
                                         
                                         So I think we're pretty safe.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Now, I had Jude, who text messaged,
                                         
    
                                         had my phone and said they're also concerned about bovine,
                                         
                                         spongiform encephalitis.
                                         
                                         I guess that's another thing that they're kind of concerned about.
                                         
                                         So maybe that's why they're looking. All right.
                                         
                                         Now, let me ask
                                         
                                         you Chris. Now Chris, I talked about my experience at Safeway yesterday when
                                         
                                         I went there and they said there's a nationwide shortage of organic dairy
                                         
                                         products. So they had not a drop of organic milk, cream, nothing like that. It
                                         
    
                                         was all gone. Everything. Nothing at all. Now I found that over at the Shurm's
                                         
                                         just fine. Are you aware of any other stores that have this nationwide shortage kind of thing going
                                         
                                         on?
                                         
                                         Do you know?
                                         
                                         I am not aware, but I don't.
                                         
                                         Organic milk is probably the only organic thing I would buy just because it does taste
                                         
                                         better.
                                         
                                         But no, I'm not, I haven't heard anything about that though.
                                         
    
                                         I mean, I haven't had a glass of milk
                                         
                                         for probably 30, 40 years.
                                         
                                         I just don't drink milk, but I have half and half in cream.
                                         
                                         I'll do that now and then.
                                         
                                         Right.
                                         
                                         But yeah, but with milk, I'm thinking, yeah,
                                         
                                         that's the first time I've seen a sign like that.
                                         
                                         I've seen things about the eggs for a long, long time. That's finally starting to get a little bit better.
                                         
    
                                         It's just expensive but you can get them now. Right. But yeah, that was
                                         
                                         something that I had, I don't know, I watched the news so nobody else has to.
                                         
                                         You know that's so funny. That's what I tell the media research center people
                                         
                                         when they come on they watch the news so we don't have to. Right. That's me. That's how many hours of news I watch.
                                         
                                         Alright Chris I appreciate the call thanks for that it's open phones this
                                         
                                         morning here before Dr. Powers pops in here a little bit after 8 o'clock 770
                                         
                                         5633 770 KMED we We will be talking about the ball team situation
                                         
                                         tomorrow at eight o'clock with Nick Card.
                                         
    
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                                         I got a foam on my sword over that one.
                                         
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                                         And you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show.
                                         
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                                         And of course Francine is coming here from the sprawling metropolis of very liberal talent.
                                         
                                         How are you doing this morning, Francine? Welcome back.
                                         
                                         Hi Bill. I'm surviving talent, basically by not going to town.
                                         
                                         You are living there. You are within it, but not of it. You're kind of riding above the
                                         
                                         liberal froth. Anyway, what's on your mind?
                                         
                                         So listen, I wanted to talk about the dairy thing and also about the miscarriage thing with the COVID shot.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and just so people catch up, I was at the Safeway over the weekend and they had no
                                         
                                         organic whatsoever in the dairy section. They put a big sign up there that says,
                                         
    
                                         hey, it's due to a nationwide shortage of organic dairy. I was not aware of that until now. Now,
                                         
                                         I was able to find some for mom over at the Sherms. They didn't seem to, they didn't put a sign up there
                                         
                                         so I don't know what's going on. But go ahead. Yeah, don't you know, Bill, that
                                         
                                         remember they were talking about the cows were going to be getting bird flu?
                                         
                                         Do you remember? Yeah and then Alex Jones says the frogs are turning
                                         
                                         gay too, but I digress, all right?
                                         
                                         Frogs have always been, you know, they can go either way. Isn't that an amphibian thing? It could be.
                                         
                                         They can actually change their gender. I believe that's an amphibian trait.
                                         
    
                                         I don't want to go down the Alex Jones rabbit hole at the moment though. Please forgive me.
                                         
                                         No, it's not Alex Jones. This is actual science.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah, that part about it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I know there's a little bit of that.
                                         
                                         But yeah, birth control hormones and everything in the water turning the frogs gay, apparently.
                                         
                                         Well, see, he's just a little confused, but Alex has been like that for a while.
                                         
                                         I mean, anyways.
                                         
                                         The other thing is, I remember, the COVID shots were being pushed
                                         
    
                                         on us and I'm very anti-vax.
                                         
                                         And I did a lot, a lot of research.
                                         
                                         And there were reports coming from other countries, you know, Germany and the UK and stuff about
                                         
                                         all the women having miscarriages and who had been given the shot.
                                         
                                         So I know this is not a story. This is not something that people
                                         
                                         are just coming up with. This is well known, well documented. Well, Dr. Thorpe, you know,
                                         
                                         he brings the receipts too in that book, Sacrifice. And he's actually looking at this as if the
                                         
                                         government or nefarious forces there essentially sacrificed the generation, a generation or two.
                                         
    
                                         He's absolutely correct in my opinion. I'm sorry, but he is. And it's really sad that
                                         
                                         this is what's happening. But there's no doubt in my mind.
                                         
                                         Appreciate the call there. Thank you, Francine. 770-5633. Dave's here. Hello, Dave. Go ahead.
                                         
                                         You're back on Dr. Thorpe's talk last hour. Go ahead.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Yeah. My doctor, actually two doctors,
                                         
                                         told me not to take the COVID shot. Why? Because they were worried about, you know, blood clotting.
                                         
                                         And, you know, something else that's really weird is I've been reading reports that a billion people
                                         
                                         have died in China and they don't have the replacements.
                                         
    
                                         They're looking at somewhere between three and four hundred million is all they got left.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         In fact, it's interesting you brought this up.
                                         
                                         One of the sources that I read a similar story to, and this was from Epic Times.
                                         
                                         Now, Epic Times, of course, is virulently, or vehemently,
                                         
                                         rather, I think is the term I really want to say, anti-communist China. They are Chinese,
                                         
                                         but they are non-communist Chinese, okay? Right. A lot of them, that's the way Taiwan is, is they're
                                         
                                         capitalist, and they're probably some of the true capitalists.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, well, let me go and just share some of what you might have been reading.
                                         
                                         This is an epic times came out just a few days ago and I had saved it.
                                         
                                         Residents report overcrowded crematoriums and empty neighborhoods in China.
                                         
                                         This was reported by Alex Wu in the epic times.
                                         
                                         And what they are writing here, Chinese residents around the country continue to reveal on social
                                         
                                         media and to the epic times that amid ongoing respiratory infections and overcrowding at
                                         
                                         local hospitals and crematoriums, China's villages, towns, and even streets in the big
                                         
                                         cities are looking eerily empty.
                                         
    
                                         And since the outbreak of COVID-19 in China's Wuhan, a wave of mass respiratory
                                         
                                         infections has appeared across China almost every year. And because of the regime's record
                                         
                                         of publishing unreliable data, including its under-reporting of COVID-19 infections in
                                         
                                         early 2020, analysts in the public often rely on anecdotal stories and evidence. And they
                                         
                                         have numerous anecdotal stories that are saying that there are a lot of people missing in China right now which I find
                                         
                                         interesting. I've seen on YouTube this Chinese lady that's an American citizen
                                         
                                         during a breakdown of Chinese population from statistically from public
                                         
                                         information that is reliable that she's
                                         
    
                                         got and she's saying that they've lost a billion people that they're down to 400
                                         
                                         million and that that sounds a little sketchy when you think well they're
                                         
                                         from scientific reports and their only only estimates because, you know, of course,
                                         
                                         China lies.
                                         
                                         And, you know, with the 245% tariffs on China...
                                         
                                         Boy, maybe this is Trump tying to tip them over.
                                         
                                         You ever think about that?
                                         
                                         Thanks for the call, Dave.
                                         
    
                                         Let me go to line three.
                                         
                                         Hi, good morning. Who's this Let me go to line three. Hi,
                                         
                                         good morning. Who's this? Hello, hello. Hi, who's this? Who's this? Hi. This is
                                         
                                         Cherry. Hi Cherry, how are you? You gonna palate cleanse us this morning or
                                         
                                         something different? Yes, yes I am. I can't believe how great Dark Winds is.
                                         
                                         Oh, you watched that after I told you about it? Is that it?
                                         
                                         Oh my God. We are now in the second season already. It is so authentic about the Navajo and all that.
                                         
                                         But I had people write me that said that there's a lot of BS in the Navajo and the Dine stuff that they were talking about there. It's very authentic. They took great pains to have it be that way and
                                         
    
                                         have it be the proper language. By the way, I'm into the third season because I
                                         
                                         was able to get it on demand over at AMC. They've got it first, right, before it
                                         
                                         will go to Netflix. I gotta tell you you know
                                         
                                         I'm looking at this Dark Winds series this little mini series or
                                         
                                         limited series as like and of course many of the people that were in Longmire
                                         
                                         are back in there remember the guy that was the tribal chief he's the lead or
                                         
                                         the tribal police chief he's you know he's playing tribal police in this one. And the guy that was
                                         
                                         the county sheriff, I think, is whatever it was, he was the casino owner in Longmire. Remember
                                         
    
                                         the Indian casino owner? Remember that story? I don't think so on that one. But...
                                         
                                         Oh, I assure you, he's the same guy. He's just older. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
                                         
                                         The same guy that ran the tribal casino that they were always having trouble with, he's just older, right? Yeah, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, the same guy that ran the tribal casino
                                         
                                         that they were always having trouble with,
                                         
                                         with Longmire, Sheriff Longmire.
                                         
                                         But I love it, I just love the show,
                                         
                                         and like I said, it may not be everybody's cup of tea,
                                         
                                         but I sure like it.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, I think it's so good, I just couldn't,
                                         
                                         I was shocked and just, oh my gosh,
                                         
                                         I mean, it is, if you want a good Western,
                                         
                                         they've brought it back. Well, I mean it is, if you want a good western, you know, they've brought it back.
                                         
                                         Well, the thing being though is what I find most, just most beautiful about what's going on with
                                         
                                         dark winds is that I love the landscapes. I love the high desert like that where they
                                         
                                         where they find themselves. Just one of my favorite favorite kind of looks this is why I love going I mean I enjoy our hills that we have around here
                                         
                                         cherry I really do but there is nothing that makes me feel better a lot of times
                                         
    
                                         when I want to get out and well like a lot of times when I would head over to
                                         
                                         Northeastern California go to the hot springs haven't been there for a few
                                         
                                         years but you get out there past Lakeview in those areas, those high desert vistas
                                         
                                         where the sky just seems to go forever. I just love that feel. Something about it
                                         
                                         just speaks to me. It's my favorite. Isn't it wonderful? But the only thing is I don't think
                                         
                                         I'm going to ever go there because it looks dangerous with all the, you know,
                                         
                                         weird hiding out criminals. Oh I know and you know you have the poor Mormon family in the station wagon, right?
                                         
                                         You know, getting thrown into the pit of despair.
                                         
    
                                         And after season one, I think, is where that was, right?
                                         
                                         Did they survive?
                                         
                                         Because I know it was obvious that they might have survived.
                                         
                                         But I wonder if they actually did.
                                         
                                         I mean, it didn't, it sort of dropped that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, they did drop that out. It looks
                                         
                                         like the rest of the family probably survived, but I don't know, Dad, because remember Dad,
                                         
                                         he ended up getting in a car wreck trying to escape. Get out of there, right? Well,
                                         
    
                                         they got him out of there. They took him to the hospital, but I just, you know, but anyway,
                                         
                                         it was, oh, and Rainn Wilson. Oh my god, what a funny cat that is.
                                         
                                         They all are.
                                         
                                         I appreciate your call, Jerry.
                                         
                                         Thanks for the palate cleanser, okay?
                                         
                                         7705633, she's our official, I guess, reviewer and talker of audio media.
                                         
                                         Hi, good morning.
                                         
                                         Who's this?
                                         
    
                                         Audio visual medium.
                                         
                                         Good morning.
                                         
                                         Good morning, Bill. Brad with SLM. Brad, what's on your mind? Hey, um, because you're the
                                         
                                         keeper of all local knowledge. I haven't heard any updates on the casino
                                         
                                         situation in Memphis. Do you know where we stand? Well, last time I heard is just
                                         
                                         probably what you heard, that they were going to move,
                                         
                                         I think they were just going to move forward with that, weren't they?
                                         
                                         Gosh, that kind of slipped. That kind of slipped our gears here, didn't it?
                                         
    
                                         Kind of was up in the news here.
                                         
                                         Let me just do a quick search on this one.
                                         
                                         I imagine there are going to be people,
                                         
                                         gaming machines open and planned,
                                         
                                         meant for casino location, Coquill's uncertain future.
                                         
                                         Well, Coquill got the green light and I haven't seen much.
                                         
                                         They issued a final approval in January 12th, but yeah,
                                         
                                         I guess they're going to do something or maybe they have done something.
                                         
    
                                         I hate to say this, this one just kind of snuck up on me there.
                                         
                                         Okay?
                                         
                                         Well, the good news in that is there's our funding vehicle for the new jail.
                                         
                                         Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
                                         
                                         We have to use that as the funding vehicle for the baseball stadium.
                                         
                                         Oh, what was I thinking?
                                         
                                         You're absolutely right.
                                         
                                         Now, we need a jail, but you know remember
                                         
    
                                         government is not here to give us what we need, Brad. The government is here to
                                         
                                         give us entertainment and we need the breads and circuses, okay? That's what we need.
                                         
                                         Yeah, just because I am now older, I'm 70 and I'm getting retired. Well, kind of in that age group anyway.
                                         
                                         Thanks for taking care of your mom.
                                         
                                         Enjoy hearing you say that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Got to keep mom in the upright locked position.
                                         
                                         85.
                                         
    
                                         I don't know if I'll make it to 85, but we'll see.
                                         
                                         Okay?
                                         
                                         Good night, brother.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         Catch you later.
                                         
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                                         Boy, we got an interesting where past meets present because the past of Phoenix, Oregon,
                                         
                                         is interesting, but the present is really kind of odd.
                                         
                                         You know how we've been talking about how liberals are just in love with all the wrong people?
                                         
                                         They don't really love people who really belong here.
                                         
                                         They love everybody who is usually aberrant. That tends to
                                         
                                         be where they want to place their love. And even the city of Phoenix has been afflicted with this
                                         
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