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Episode Date: April 24, 2025

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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at ClouserDrilling.com. Diana Anderson is going to join me here in a few minutes after news of the Kim Commando digital update, and we're going to talk a little bit more about her next presentation. As I had mentioned on the promo was about eliminating or the continuing fight against the gang-raining, communistic takeover of Oregon,

and it's being done through land use planning, climate-friendly equitable communities, CFEC. Weren't you mentioning, Diana, it's what, the Vision 2040 process too, is also part of that, right? Oh, yes, yes. In fact, they give more of the details about what living in a technocracy would be. And that's what I wanted to do in the next presentation is show that there's a direct

connection with all this happening. And using mostly European testimony as to where they are, because we can follow the path of where Vision 2040 has taken us if we look at what's happening in other areas of the world that have started a lot earlier. Yeah, a lot earlier than Oregon for sure. I'll tell you, we'll have that coming up. It's going to be about 10 minutes, about 10 minutes before we get to you. Always have good conversation though.

Always appreciate that. And we'll talk about her next presentation and take your calls and various other things. I want to do some emails of the day too, before we get into news and emails of the day, sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson and Central Point Family Dentistry, centralpointfamilydentistry.com. If you need dental care

and you don't have dental insurance, they have a dental plan there, which works a lot like insurance, but it is much better benefit payout and pretty affordable too. Find out more centralpointfamilydentistry.com and they're on Freeman Way next door to the Mazatlan Mexican restaurant. Carlton writes me, we were talking yesterday about the Trump administration floating a $5,000 per, well, a baby bump. You almost call it like a baby bump bonus. You got a baby bump and we'll give you a $5,000 bonus to encourage you to get or to have another child, right?

Carlton says, hey Bill, the only way that I would see that $5,000 per child for a married couple would be workable. By the way, I'm finding out I didn't see anything about it being married couple if I was married couple, but married couple, that's so bourgeois, right? So we could have all sorts of more sainted single moms getting bonuses. I don't know. Like I said, this was just a work in progress, Carlton. But anyway, Carlton says,

the only way this could be workable is to incorporate it into the 1040 tax form. It would then have to be on a joint return as a deduction. Maybe so, all right? And, joint return as a deduction. Maybe so. All right? And Bob Shan, Bob Shan makes me laugh because yeah he's pointed but back on the baseball stadium for Medford which I guess would also be part of Vision 2040, you get a taxpayer funded baseball stadium but yeah kick that around. He uses this from a website, how to say no

to a new pony. In other words, when the kids ask for a new pony, you know, Dad, I want a pony or Mom, I want a pony. To say no for a new pony, you can one, use positive language and express gratitude, two, be direct and respectful, and three, provide alternatives or practical help moving forward. Bob that's very funny so that's what we need to do to the Medford City Council is that what you're implying here? No you can't have the pony you can't. Now Janet writes me this morning, Bill I read on an Ashland Facebook yesterday announcement that the Southern Oregon University cafeteria has an all-you-can-eat lunch for all for $11. Not necessarily students. Imagine a gift from all of us SOU district taxpayers. Janet, Jan, I did not realize that we were so generous with our money so everybody else could come and eat cheaply at SOU. Randy pops in here, Bill gangreening of Medford is an interesting phrase you use.

Gangreening is the disintegration of flesh caused by a lack of blood supply. Gangreening is the disintegration of economy caused by a lack of rational thinking, both capable of resulting in death. Gangreening of any city or state is economic suicide since it's based on abject falsehoods. We'll talk more about that with Diana here in just a bit here, Randy. Betty also writes me, Bill, I'm thinking about this idea for a $5,000 push payment. Who thinks this is a good idea? Not me.

First off, we must remember that welfare apparently is heredity. I personally knew three decades of people doing it that way. I was young. I could just see it now. Every woman on welfare will have the main job of being baby factories. Brain cells will be a non-issue. No reason for a $5,000 payment. People want kids. The people that want kids will have them. Yeah, that is one of the concerns about it, Betty. People have been saying that really this would end up paying people who were already thinking about going there. Jeff from Selma writes me, the privilege of habeas corpus, not a right.

Yeah, there are some that were bringing this up here. They're saying if President Trump is going to be forced to have habeas corpus for 18.6 million people here illegally, never authorized to be here in the first place. Some are saying, well, why not suspend habeas corpus? Because actually it's in here. It says under section 9 of the Article 1, section 9, privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion, the public

safety may require it. Could we call this an invasion? I don't know. You know, it sure looks and acts and feels like an invasion sometime, alright? He also adds about Simon Hare, the Simon Hare controversy we were talking about. Bill, did anyone really expect anything else from Simon Hare? I mean, come on! The DUI coming from the strip club in 2015 shows me enough to keep him out of any governmental position. He was due for a good old-fashioned taurine feather back then and things aren't really any different now." Well, I don't know about that. He fell in his sword about that, Jeff.

I'm not defending him, but I'm saying, you know, he is a, when it comes to government policy, a relatively sober, no pun intended, fellow. Let me see what else is here. Oh, Tarian Wyricka, Bill. This whole Obrego Garcia thing is absolutely ridiculous. Here's my conspiracy. The Democrats are using the men. Those that have gone to Venezuela didn't go with the intention of bringing Garcia home. Much like BLM wasn't formed to help blacks, they know Venezuela is not going to release Garcia.

Actually, I think it's El Salvador. But they are well aware that El Salvador is going to keep Garcia and punish him for his crimes there. They went for political reasons only. If Venezuela or El Salvador handed Garcia over to any one of them, they would push him off on someone else as fast as possible. They want to be seen as a fighter for constitutional rights, not seen as a wife-beating gang member, best friend for life. What they really want is a backlog of court cases to slow down the removal. That's it. You're absolutely right about that, Terry. This is about cloward pivoting the court system.

And that's why they have some people who are talking openly about when it comes to immigration cases suspending the writ of habeas corpus. And the president does have that constitutional power. Boy, I'll tell you though, it does sound like the nuclear option for sure. Okay. Let me grab a quick call before news and then we will move along and Diana Anderson joining me here in a few on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hello caller, who's this? Hey it's John. John, what's on your mind? You know I just wanted to bring up, you know I can't

even recall now, I haven't had my coffee yet, what made me think of this but Oregon's Goal 11 and the real nefarious reason we have that in the state, you know, I think it warrants discussion frequently to keep the citizens aware of what it is. Okay, you said the goal what now? Goal 11 with Oregon on land development. Oh, goal 11 on land development. Okay. Yeah.

And what do you think that ultimate purpose is about? Well, you keep Oregon in power and keep Southern Oregon from growing. I mean, that's been stated by more than one state official. They don't want to continue a city from, you know, Brant's Pass all the way to Ashton. Essentially, then they want Southern Oregon poor. They want Southern Oregon poor and compacted, right?

Compact and poor, ultimately. Of course, and you know, I was discussing with my wife, maybe it'll be nice to see a turnaround Trump issue to the forest service that they're to increase lumber, timber production by 25% over the course of I believe four years. Don't quote me on that but it's a set number of years. Yeah, yeah he wants about half of the of the federal land reopened for proper logging. And regarding the layoffs with the BLM there were none here. They were able to keep their staff

for the most part. I mean of course I don't work for them. I can't state officially, but I've heard. So I will tell you, I think there's some promising things for Oregon, but the goal of Lemon is really something that constricts us and the citizens should be aware of that. Thank you very much. I appreciate the call. Yeah, the markets, a little mix today, up and down, that sort of thing. Gold soared to about 35.50, 35.60 the other day, then it kind of pulled back a little bit. And this morning we're at 33.25. Now, I'm not looking at the price of this and thinking that, oh, it's all figured out and they're going to get all the spending figured out and we're going to reduce spending and the dollar is going to get stronger. And no, I don't think it's fixed.

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Nice. Thank you. I do. It is, Who Made American Schools Marxist Training Centers? Well, they wouldn't be Marxist training centers if we just sent them more money. Yes. I'm kidding. And schools mean, in today's left language, means every environment, whether you're home, work, school, education has been expanded out to community education now. And in community education, you will be assimilated to borrow a Star Trek term.

In all seriousness though Diana has been doing presentations and of course a lot of this sometime sometimes based on your book here Yes, that you and Gary Clark wrote wrote rather but also Getting us to look at what is being done here locally I had Nick Nick Hart on the show just a few days ago at for City Councilor did you yeah? you? Yeah, yeah, I did. And of course we were talking about the, you know, the baseball socialism, you know, that is well, you know, stadium socialism, you know what they want. And, and I couldn't help it. I'm up, but I'm you, your voice is always in my head ringing,

just like with you and Mr. X's Mr. X's voice rings in my head, your voice rings in my head. Thank you. About certain things that I see about these agendas being pushed. And Nick was talking about the frustration that he felt as a Medford City Councilor that everything that they're working with is about mandates cram downs from the state of Oregon. Right. Whether it's C-Fect, climate friendly equitable communities, whether it's the transportation plans, whether it is the, you know, essentially what I term the gang greening of Medford. Right. And we're going to just be in Grants Pass, Medford, Ashland, everywhere else. We're just going to, we're just going to lay down and usher in the technocracy and we'll call it

Vision 2040 or whatever the case might be. Right. And that's unless you're in the technocracy, but we'll call it Vision 2040 or whatever the case might be, right? And that's what you're doing this presentation on, right? Yes. And there's a misnomer in calling it Medford's Vision 2040. Medford was just the city that had more resources and the leadership or those who were willing to comply in order to bring about the changes they needed for all of southern Oregon. So any of the 85 actionable steps that they want to take, they apply to Grants Pass, they

apply to Ashland, doesn't matter, because they were introduced by metro regional government, Rogue Valley Council of Governments is one of their representative organizations here. They're the ones that actually put the maps on their climate-friendly area study guides that they gave to every city in southern Oregon. Okay, so they're not all just about transportation. Once they brought that climate friendly area ideology into the cities, then they had to look at those 85 steps and say, oh, this is about making sure that everyone has access within a walkable area to all their daily needs, day-to-day needs, whether it's public services, food, clothing, everything.

So essentially no real transportation needed, everything's just around you. Now, some of that sounds kind of appealing in some ways, right? Old-fashioned village-type living. Well, yeah. And I remember when I was growing up in my grandmother's, my grandmother Prozac's home in an old coal town, Logan's Ferry Heights, Pennsylvania. It's about 400 people on the top.

And the coal mill, the coal plant had closed down a number of years, but people were still living there. It had a neighborhood grocery store, kind of a little community center. We all walked to it because it was all within walkable, you know, distance at that time for a little kid. And you had houses, but you also had businesses within the houses. It sounded very European. So part of me kind of said, oh, I'm so bad. But something tells me though that they want to take it in a different direction though. Right. If you want to, as Douglas Farr and Associates wants to do, not only they believe, you know, what's the point of getting rid of all fuel-injected cars when we can just design cities

that don't need cars at all? So let's take, for example, someone who wants to look for a job and they have certain skills that they have been trained for and they paid good money maybe at a college or Occasional area for that job and let's say like in Europe where you have Just certain days and hours where you have to have a certain sticker on your car, which is a lifetime sticker Until you get rid of that car So now you have you're restricted on where you can go to apply for the jobs to use the skills that you're trained for. And this is how this kind of climate friendly, equitable community, sustainable development

model is essentially the open air prison that authoritarians desire, the technocrats, the technocracy. Now, yeah, that's what I want to do on the presentation is give people an idea and show them like there's a representative from the European Union and she's standing up to tell you what all the disadvantages of having a 15-minute city plan, which here in Portland they called it 20-minute neighborhoods and here they call them climate friendly. Let me hold off here just a second before you go into this because Diana is going to be doing this. And the thing is though, our real challenge right now is that we're not seeing a lot of resistance to this coming from the power structure. All right. And I don't know if

enough people can get interested in this, but I'm going to let you know where her presentation is, because sometimes a big tyranny can be knocked down with a committed minority of people. We know that's possible. The fire maps was a good demonstration of that. Get rid of it. Exactly. Exactly. A committed minority.

But what this would be, this presentation is going to be Monday, the 28th, and this is going to be the last presentation you're doing for a while, apparently. Right? Yes, I didn't do one in March. Okay all right so you can check this out it's Monday the 28th at Central Point Library starting at 530 and I'm happy to let people know about this because you are spreading knowledge seeds about this right and trying to see if anybody can care or if people are just going to abandon Medford and Grants Pass and Ashland is abandon it and go because they don't want to be in their

15 minute prison city. I like to give them the facts, the primary resources and then if they don't care for my opinion or my conclusions about it, they can go home and do their own research, which I put on a handout for them. And then they can make up their own mind what they want to do with it, are they content, are they unhappy, you know, that kind of thing. All right, let's take it back then to what some of what we'll be discussing. And this is Europe because Europe is already ahead of the United States in embracing the technocracy.

And there's a part of me that wonders if even the Trump administration unwittingly is in the process of clearing the economic and and other restrictions that might get in the way of bringing in a technocracy in the United States. It's kind of a work in progress and I don't know yet. I don't know yet but I have my concerns. Yeah the lead organization that evaluates how far people have come with sustainable development especially in the cities they already have a list online of 15-minute cities in the United States. Some of their favorites are Orlando, Florida, and Seattle, places like that. And others have already talked about within the Trump

administration about the promotion of freedom cities. Freedom cities. You know that term? Right. Freedom cities. And it's like, oh my gosh, it's like there are people even within the Trump administration that may not realize what they're promoting Well, ultimately when when Oregon's Department of Land Conservation Development Commission put out their definition of climate friendly areas They wanted to make sure that mmm, you're not forced. That was the word they used so you won't be forced to drive your car So you'll have freedom away from it. Yeah, you have the freedom. You are free because you are no longer forced to drive, which of course is ultimately because they don't want you driving, period. But it sounds bad to force you out of your cars. But if we say, oh, you're free from having the car. Isn't

that wonderful? Oh, yeah. Okay. I love that. All right. Dodo. All right. I'm sorry. Being sarcastic. Well, I also wanted to... We throw the word around a technocracy quite a bit. And people say, well, you know, that's not a... Is it a democracy? Is it a republic? What is a technocracy? And it goes beyond any political term. Well, a lot of this was described to me back when I used to, who's the guy that runs technocracy.news? Gentlemen, he's written a lot. Patrick Wood. Patrick Wood is a great presenter.

Yeah, and I haven't talked to him for a while because he suffered a stroke and has been having difficulty communicating ever since. But at the heart of it, it is a societal scientific dictatorship in which the tyranny of your experts, whether it is your planner who has been working for the city of Medford for four years and, I like riding my bike to work here, who came out of the left-wing planning organizations, whether it's that, or someone is saying, oh, I'd like to have sustainable agriculture in my downtown apartment. It's all connected in a way, isn't it? Yeah, it's like a scientific operation. It's a mechanism to distribute goods and services

to everybody equally. The whole utopian idea was put forth by Friedrich Ingels, who was Marx's colleague. So that is Marxism. When Harold Loeb put out a book called Living in a Technocracy, and that was back in the 30s, he even talked about professors and philosophers like Veblen and them, and always referring back to Marx. So when I call my series of presentations Karl Marx in the classroom, I mean, this is a classroom where I'm sitting right now. You're learning as we are speaking, hopefully, and because it all connects back to collectivism, whether it's from Nazi Germany or from Soviet Russia or worse, from China right now, collectivism is the main goal of technocracy.

Collectivize all the people into a smaller units, intentional communities is what Marx called them, smaller intentional communities. And so this has been building now for 150 years but more technically from the technocracy from Columbia University in the 1930s. And there's- It's not a new idea. Oh no, it's not a new idea. And that's what makes it kind of overwhelming

because how can we get rid of something that's been going on that long, it's being implemented? And now it's being mandated by the state. And like Mr. Ward said, you know, and imparted his concerns now too about all these changes that are so foreign to American lifestyles and livelihoods. We have the representative from the European Union, Christine Anderson,

and for those who won't be able to make it, I use her a lot because she's out there risking her career and her options for the future by speaking out. She says it's going to be a world of scarcity. She says that word scarcity. So the new economic plan for your neighborhood, yeah, it sounds great to be living in the village lifestyle. But in those days, people went back to the old make your own goods and services and sell them. And in fact, in this situation, we have what they call community wealth building where personal wealth building is just not the way to go anymore. Maybe that's why they want to give all that money to those newspaper organizations that don't work very well because you know even though that was the excuse. We need to prop up provdas. Yes.

Yeah. Right. We have to prop the, because the provdas are failing in the marketplace right now, but we need to prop up provdas locally. Yes. Because of that local 15-minute climate friendly. We need that. There needs to be the mouthpiece, the trusted mouthpiece of the journalist student, right?

Right. Oh, yeah. Okay. A little sarcastic. Sorry. Yeah, when we go to the digital world where everything is digital, you won't be getting your eagle in the mail. Because that's not sustainable, right? Yes. Yes. By the way, I'm going to talk with Richard a little bit. He agreed to come on. No, that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, in Klaus Schwab, who they just kicked out, Easter Sunday, I guess they had a meeting up there at World Economic Forum. He'll probably rise in three days though. I'm kidding. Yeah. Well, someone is going to rise and take his place. If not one, maybe 11 different disciples will get up there and dictate to

the world. But a lot of things that they espouse in their book, The Great Reset, we've already witnessed it. We're witnessing it right now, and especially on the economic side. I'm just praying that the Trump administration's reset, which you can arguably say is going on right now, whether it's tariffs and reshoring, manufacturing, and this and that, and the other. I'm hoping that he is taking care to not go down the road that so many of those tech bros that he was standing up on stage with the other day, who are very much in favor of the technocracy. Yes they are. Because they would be the ones essentially in charge of that. Well, there's four cities that carry the maps

for digital technocracy to World Economic Forum. And one of those cities was Silicon Valley, Menlo Park. And the representatives of those, of that, Menlo Park, and the representatives of those, of that, the technical institutes that we have there. And there is some good work that goes on there too, you know, connecting technology with healthcare, with people who have disabilities, especially in the realm of being able to move their limbs and that kind of thing. I don't see, I don't believe Trump is the miracle worker. We can approve a lot of things that he's done to correct all the ills that have been put upon us by this man. He's also just one man. But yes, he's just one man.

Yeah. And we cannot sit on his laurels and not do anything and not say anything and not get up and look around us and find out what needs to be preserved in our American democracy and what needs to be eliminated as far as a technocracy coming in climate friendly areas is the worst it is an open prison yeah yes anyway but also but but it may have a ball stadium the whole ball stadium well you know one of those 85 actionable steps they want to take, they did specify recreation. Oh yeah.

Okay. And so, in fact, they talk about Rogue X, you know, so that was one of them. So there's baseball, whatever it might be, they want to make sure that all different forms of games and sports is on the board. Well, you have to have breads and circuses. Bread and circuses available to keep people satisfied in their climate-friendly, equitable community. I'll tell you what, we don't want to give it all away, but you can kind of see where Diana is going on with this. So it's going

to be Monday, Central Point Library at 530. And this is going to be one of the last presentations. You will have handouts for a while. At least until the fall. But you are still welcome because we're going to continue to discuss this. Thank you. And spread the word to thousands, hopefully, and maybe if enough people are willing to stand up because it does take people willing to see the danger of where climate friendly, climate friendly, equitable community, you know, it just sounds so good. The cities themselves complain that they're crammed downs, but yet I see no resistance coming out of the cities either because they probably tie it to funding and development. Correct, right.

There's a lot of people in the valley in the world in this state that really are witnessing what's happening. And the bells are going off, the red flags are going up. They're everywhere. They're everywhere. And it's causing division too, because some people, even family members, there's division. My family, there's division about it. Really?

Yeah. So there are some people who believe in a globalist type vision, something above, you know, just our selfish local needs and wants, that kind of thing. Oh, okay. So they were kind of like siding with our late globalist pope. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. You don't want to worry about your own people.

You don't want to worry about your own community. You kind of think globally and put on the hair shirt for yourself. Get ready for your life of scarcity. Scarcity. Yeah, that's what she says. But you'll be happy. But you'll be happy. Okay.

Diana, I always appreciate you coming in. You are always welcome. Thank you for having me. All right. And once again, Monday night, 530 Central Point Library and go out there and get educated, handouts, take it around, try to spread a few seeds. Yes, please come. All right.

Thank you. Thank you, Bill. Who Made American Schools Marxist Training Centers? That's the book that you wrote too, which is available. You just go to Amazon, the usual suspects. Okay. Thank you. All right.

Thanks, Diana. It is 836 at KMED, 99.3 KBXG. Hi, this is Bill Meyer and I'm with KMED 993 KBXG. Hi, this is Bill Meier and I'm with KMED. The Bill Meier show is on. News Talk 1063 KMED. It's 839. Appreciate you being here. Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Brad, you wanted to talk about the Greenway, all our Greenways. Is there a revisioning plan going on right now? Oh yeah. And I'm so grateful when you have Diane on because you know this stuff, but a lot of people don't. And what you two are talking about is absolutely true.

When it comes to this kind of policy stuff, what a lot of people don't understand is, is visualize in your mind a maze that has any number of indoors, only one exit door and no matter which door you go in on the on the intake side you will come out the exit door where you're supposed to and that's that's the way these darn things work Bill. Could you give me an example how this relates to our local planning you of course have been involved in this in a long time for a long time in planning. Yeah, yeah. So one thing that we all know,

Almeida Fire September 8th, 2020, lots of money flying around. One of the grants that got issued was for what was called the Revisioning Plan for the Bear Creek Greenway. Now this work was done by an outside contractor. I actually emailed you a link to it. You can look at it at your convenience. But this thing's been bopping along since 2022.

And then last Thursday, the project coordinators made a presentation to the Jackson County Planning Commission. And what was interesting was how much information was there that really nobody knew a lot about about how this is going to work. And one of the most interesting things is is how much of this is really almost done when it comes to the communities that are most affected, which is Phoenix and Talent. The Jackson County part of it doesn't have that much because Jackson County doesn't actually own that much of where this this plan has has most of its focus. Hey you know something Brad I'm looking at this right now the Bear Creek Greenway corridor

revisioning plan and could I just book you on the show given you're on the Planning Commission still correct? Yes. Okay could you come on the show Monday? Maybe to flush this out a little bit more? I would be happy to. Okay. I'll get in touch with you because I think this deserves more than a quick minute or two call. Seriously. Yeah. Well, right. And this thing, this whole thing is, you know, Bill, you keep track of all the stuff. And I bet you haven't even heard of this until this morning, have you? I have never heard of this until this morning. You are absolutely right. So this is why we were so concerned that, you know, this whole plan about, oh, the climate-friendly,

equitable community, it's all interconnected, is it not? Honestly, at the core? It's all connected? Yeah. So I would ask your question this way, is when you look at a state with 4.2 million people in it and you look at the people that have their hands on the levers of planning control, it boils down to a very, very small group of people that have their hands in most of this stuff. That's the best answer I can give you to your question. All right, all we can do is then expose this. I'll call you off here and we'll get this set up, okay? Okay, Bill. All we can do is expose this. I'll call you off here and we'll get this set up. Okay? Okay, we'll go.

Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time, Brad, and sharing this information. It is 842. Richard Emmons said that he would be available. I'm going to call him over at the Oregon Eagle. Last hour, Starr was talking about the Senate bill, which was going to give taxpayer money or money, I guess, from the Googles of the world and give it to failing newspapers in our area apparently I imagine they're probably in favor of it what

does the Oregon Eagle publisher think about it I'll talk to him next access your stored items safe and show always happy to do a quick chat here with Richard Emmons who is the publisher of the Oregon Eagle now you're also the editor there too are you not sir? Welcome. Yes I am. I'm also the ad salesman in case anybody's interested. Okay so in other words you are a one horse well the cook and bottle washer the chef and everything else you're doing them all huh? Well just well a lot. I do have help with a 20 plus year experienced copy editor. It checks all the articles. My wife's a fabulous graphic designer and lays out the paper. So I don't even have an intern now. So yeah, but when it comes to the

editorials and so forth, article selection, people can blame me or praise me, but the buck stops with me. So yeah. All right, very good. I was going to ask you then, Brian, do you want to hit my Blame me or praise me, but the buck stops with me. So, yeah. All right, very good. I was going to ask you then, Brian, you hit my mailbox the other day. What's sort of the features, if you want to talk about a feature or two,

just give you a little blast on that. And then we'll ask about this Senate bill that Kevin Sterritt was talking about to shovel money in failing newspapers. Yeah, we've, articles in there. We're talking about, you know, Trump's tariffs. I mean, they're really controversial. I think they fit into a bigger plan.

So I talk about that in my editorial and that that's something that people need to get up to speed on because it's part of an overall change in the, you know, from globalism to whatever it's becoming, which could be nationalism, America first, more localism. Yeah, onshoreism, onshoreism, whatever you want to call it. It's interesting that the state of Oregon is very much against this. I know that Dan Rayfield, attorney general, I talked about this earlier this morning, has joined and is actually spearheading a 12 multi-state or 12

state attack on the tariff plan and Oregon is one of them. The thing is though, Richard, I don't know if you heard that, but they may have a legal leg to stand on because of the way tariffs were designed. They were supposed to really be going through Congress. Do you think about that? What do you think about that? You know, I've read a lot on this stuff. And we know how slow Congress is. It's designed to be slow and inefficient. And tariffs were set up so that if a country does something against the United States, that the executive branch, i.e. the president, can take immediate action. I mean, if he had to wait for you to have it go through all the congressional committees and get through to land on his desk and sign a bill by that time any affected businesses they'd be out of business.

Yeah, I mean it could be I'm just saying though that constitutionally Rayfield may have a point. I'm not saying he's right. I'm just saying he may have a constitutional underpinning to what's on the lawsuit. I don't say that happily. I'm just trying to be honest about what I read. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. And I think in the greater picture, I think every government program, and it does tie into what, you know, about getting taxpayer money for newspapers and so forth, is that you've got to, they're trying to balance the budget. We can't go on spending, you know, basically $6 for every four dollars it comes in in taxes and borrowing the other two bucks

because now it's two trillion. And- we have to wait every spending program. Against. You know is it worth. You know spending it borrowing the money to pay for it we have to look at every dollar that's being spent. And you know back at you

know last couple of congresses, there's been a bill at the federal level to subsidize newspapers. And in fact, Congressman Cliff Benz asked me my opinion on that, and I told him clearly I was against it for multiple reasons. I mean, you know. Okay, now this Senate bill that Kevin Sterrett was talking about, we were shooting the breeze on it,

he talks about it as just basically saving failing newspapers. Would you agree with that evaluation of it overall or is there something else going on, you think? Well, it's getting newspapers in on some of the griff. I mean, it's getting them taxpayer money. You know, it's getting them taxpayer money. You know, it's any agency that gets money from the, or any industry that's heavily subsidized by the taxpayers, they don't have to be as responsive to their actual customers, either

subscribers or advertisers. It's a very tough business. I mean, I've been doing it in my fifth year now, and it's a very tough business. I mean, I've been doing it in my fifth year now and it's a very tough business, but there's competition and they still have, you know, a lot of advantages that other businesses don't have. I mean, you know, the first postmaster general was Benjamin Franklin and he had a newspaper.

He was a printer and they get subsidized postal rates that I'm very thankful for. The printing press, the paper, they pay for the ink and all that, but postage is a big factor. And I can mail a 24-page newspaper for about the size of an oversized postcard. I mean, it's more than that, but it's not, you know, it's kind of shocking. So in your opinion, then, there's already plenty of subsidy on existing, on existing newspapers. But the point being, though, is that many of these newspapers really don't

print newspapers any longer, do they? Or at least many that I'm aware of don't print newspapers any longer do they or at least many that I'm aware of don't. It's definitely changing I mean it's definitely changing marketplace but as far as you know people like let's say 50 and over they there's a preference for newspapers people still buy more printed books than they buy ebooks that it doesn't feel that way but here's another big subsidy from the state of Oregon already and and this may shock some people, but we're all concerned about child labor. We have all these child labor laws, but newspapers are specifically exempted from all Oregon child labor laws so that the 12-year-olds can do their paper routes.

Because when you think about that- Do any 12-year year olds deliver papers? I haven't seen one for a long time. I'm speaking more historically. But the idea that people that deliver newspapers, they're generally 1099 employees. They have to do their own benefits. They have to do everything.

They're not subject to minimum wage laws and things like that. That's just how it was set up. So that's something that was probably put in a hundred years ago and it's still there. And but I, you know, there's an old saying that, you know, he who pays the piper calls the tomb. And if the taxpayers through their representatives, are subsidizing newspapers, then they're not going to be able to push back on the powers that be. Yeah, that Senate bill should be rejected for that reason alone, I would think.

But I can't help but think that the Oregon legislature would look at this as, in essence, subsidizing Pravda, various smaller and local versions of Pravda. Is that fair or not? Yeah and I haven't read this bill because you know out of thousands of bills that are going through but I know the one in Congress and they had certain things where you had to have full-time reporters which you know lots of weeklies and others you know don't have full- reporters, which lots of weeklies and others don't have full time reporters so they wouldn't qualify.

And it's just one of those things. I mean, all we have to do is look at television ads and newspapers that are heavily subsidized by the pharmaceutical industry. I mean, they're over half the advertising dollars by pharmacy companies and that skews the reporting on COVID-19 and the vaccines and everything. Oh yeah, nobody in the mainstream ever really fought against that for that very reason. So it's a good point. Whoever's paying the subsidies, you're going to give a little encouragement to or maybe not attack it quite so much. All right, so you're not in favor of this. Alright, good. I appreciate you coming on

here Richard and thank you so much and glad. OregonEagle.com website, is that the main one? What do you say? Alright, OregonEagle.com. Richard Edmonds, the publisher and editor. This is the Bill Myers show at 853 KMED at 993 KBXG. One of each K4, VIN 01651, MSRP 24, Highway in Medford. Lithium, Body and Paint. This is Randall with Advanced Air and I'm on KMED. I appreciate you listening on KMED and 993 KBXG. Jukebox of course, the music coming up at 9.03 this morning.

Barclay Van Camp and Robinson 9.06. Earlier this morning, I first Van Camp and Robinson 906. Earlier this morning, I first talked about the Simon Hare letter and the drama going on with the Josephine County Commission, and I've made this clear that I don't know what's going on there. All I can do is just share with you what people who are involved on both sides and questions. I've heard from some of the county commissioners involved in this, and I've heard of other people.

I've heard from Simon Hare as an example, who ended up talking about he believes that there's hinky going on. I'm taking a wait and see kind of approach to this one because we haven't even hit a hundred days yet and there's there are calls for recalls you know already and I would hope that we would be a little more patient but maybe I'm wrong I don't have a dog a personal dog in this fight I just want to be clear about this I'm just letting you know it

just feels very premature but I did have former Commissioner John West, who wrote me this morning, and I wanted to share his email. And John West ended up sharing the, you know, the budget documents that Simon here apparently sent. And Simon sent that to me too. Now Commissioner Ron Smith says that this is not official. This is a placeholder. That's what he talked about. And that there's no $388,000 a year going to Michael Sellers right now. That's the claim and that nothing has changed. Now what former Commissioner West says, says, Bill, it's not true. Andrea signed the PR for his wage and Michael is already receiving the pay. I have verified that. I was told there was

a contract being drawn up by outside counsel with a buyout in it. I was told this last Friday by the person who was having it created. They have been caught. It makes me sick the lies. And Holly, better be careful. I will not let the taxpayers be cheated. The budget documents just verify the salaries all getting paid. Now a Supreme Court justice only gets $180,000 a year. Marco Rubio only gets $250,000 a year. Michael is not qualified to run these departments point-blank. The lies deception is much. Simon's letter was 100% true. Sandy's letter is true. These four have put themselves before the citizens and the party. I will take them down if I have to and protect Josephine County as I always did.

All right, Commissioner West, or former Commissioner West, I appreciate your writing. I guess I'm taking a little more weight and see. But thank you for writing. All right, I can see the lawsuits and the drama continuing. Wow. Thank you, John. It is 8.58 and change. By the way, if you want to email me on this or any other issue of local concern, the email is billatbillemiershow.com and I'll talk to anybody that's involved in any of this and

we discuss it more tomorrow if we wish. Thanks. Thanks, Jan. I'm out here on-