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Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Dr. Jane Orient MD, can RFK Jr really get the autism card out to us by September? State Sen. Noah Robinson talks HB3624...do we really want the state registering homeschool kids AND testing them?

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announced recently that the agency that he heads would know what caused the autism epidemic by September of this year. It seems like a tall order. I wanted to talk with Dr. Jane Orient, MD, who is the executive director of the Association of American Physicians and

Surgeons, aapsonline.org. And I am a kind of associate member of it. I love to go to that site. I find so much good information there on true health and true health freedom. Dr. Orient, it is a pleasure having you back on. Good morning. Great to talk to you, Bill. All right. Now, this is a pretty tight timeline, RFK Jr. saying, hey, we're going to find, we're going to have the cause of autism ready for American people to digest in September. Would you agree? Pretty tight or maybe because they're already on to it, that it won't be that hard. What do you think? Well, I think that he must think he already knows the cause and he just needs to reveal it to the American people by September. I mean this has been going on for decades and to say well now all of a sudden we're gonna wrap it up

in a couple of months is not plausible. Yeah, okay. I remember President Trump said we would have the Ukraine war over the first day too, and then it runs into reality a little bit. Now, does he have any theories that he has talked about before? I'm not a huge person. I don't go through everything that RFK Jr. talks about, so I figured you being in the medical world may have a better idea. I thought he said something about he's thinking that's environmental toxins. Is that true what he's thinking? Well, it can't be genetic because you can't have an epidemic from a genetic cause. That just doesn't happen. So if you have a huge increase in the incidence, then it has to be something besides genetics. But now people are saying, oh we're not

having an epidemic at all. They're just denying and say, well, we didn't recognize it before and we changed the diagnostic criteria. So not to worry, we have all these profoundly disabled kids who lose their ability to make eye contact or to talk and who engage in things like head banging.

Yeah. And that's not to worry. And when I was a kid, Dr. Orient, and I'm not as, I'm a little bit younger than you, but we're relatively speaking peers. And I never, ever heard of anyone with autism, back when I was a kid. That's in the 1970s.

I think it was back in those days, it was what, one in 10,000, I think was what they thought. That's what they thought and when I was in medical school in the 1970s autism took up about two sentences in the big fat pediatrics textbook. So it was not a thing then at all. It was not and we did not have huge efforts devoted to special education for children who absolutely could not be taught in a regular classroom. What do you think changed in your medical opinion after years and years of having observed not only different government policies but also different medical policies, different food policies? I don't know, any thoughts on this yourself? Well, the thing that really changed is the increase in the pediatric vaccine schedule.

When I was a kid, we got DTP and smallpox, which you no longer get, and that was all. But now, they keep adding vaccines to the schedule and more and more doses so kids maybe maybe getting seventy shots before they are allowed to go to school and it just so happened that there's been a collection point incident of autism the number of vaccines the children are required to get i also relationship well that's not proof but it is sort of suspicious of vaccines that children are required to get. I also...

It's a relationship, well that's not proof, but it is sort of suspicious. And if we look at the children who are not vaccinated, the incidence of all kinds of neurodevelopmental disorders, as well as things like food allergies and asthma, are lower. Unfortunately, we have done away with control group because there are not that many children who are not vaccinated these days. So it's really hard to be sure. But there are mechanisms by which this might occur that we really need to look into instead of just denying that there could be any relationship.

RFK Jr., the Secretary of Health, of course, is not, he's not an anti-vaccine guy, if I recall correctly. Do you agree? Well, that's right. That's what he says. He's not against vaccines. He's just in favor of good science to determine the safety of vaccines. I think we really should be looking for safer vaccines. But of course first not consider you if you use the word autism, but if you use the word brain damage or encephalopathy, you might be able to get compensation to help care for your very needy child. So do you think that we may have, since the vaccine court will not admit to autism, but it only admits to brain

damage, is there a way to go through those VAERS court, those vaccine court awards then and determine that okay a lot of what's called brain damage here is really autism? I think that that's what needs to be done but one thing that happened is that one of their expert witnesses that they relied on heavily he said something that suggested that that might be the case and they kicked him off their expert witness now. Oh, how interesting. This, once again, sounds like something we've

talked about here before in which the pharmaceutical companies, many of them who create vaccines that are given an exemption from lawsuits by the federal government. It sounds like more of a circling of the wagons kind of behavior here. Fair enough? Well, I think so. I mean, where else do you have a product that's completely free of liability? I can't think of anything. Every product has to have some level of this. Now how do you think RFK Jr. could go about though actually getting to the bottom unless that he just waves a magic wand and says that all these kids that were declared brain damaged are actually autistic and that we think there's a cause here

in the in the vaccine world? I'm not sure how he's going to go about that. He's certainly going to run into a lot of opposition from people who have been denying all along that this is even a problem. And if it is a problem, well, it can't be vaccines. We don't know what it is, but we know what it is not. It couldn't be vaccines and all these vaccines that have aluminum adjuvants, which may be the culprit, that accumulates in the body and that stirs up the immune system and causes inflammation possibly at a time when the brain is very vulnerable that is going through a lot of rapid

development and if you interfere with that process you may cause severe damage. Now I have a couple of relatives who have suffered vaccine damage. One of them was from the COVID vaccine, an adult who ended up having to take COVID vaccines in order to keep his job and ended up developing Meniere's disease through this and has just a whole bunch of neurological problems. And his two doctors both admit that it actually came from that. Do you think we're getting to the point where there is going to be more truth about what's actually going on with these medications?

Well, maybe so, but there's certainly a lot of pushback and there were doctors who say, well, many years disease occurs anyway, you would have gotten it anyway, we've got these to back it up that are published. And if the doctor says otherwise, he may be fired from his job, he may lose his board certification. He might even face trouble with a licensure board because we can't have people developing vaccine hesitancy. So we're still experiencing the crushing of dissent even now, many years after the COVID vaccine problems that we had? Oh, absolutely. They still are. Wow, that hasn't changed much.

No. Is there anything that RFK Jr. can do about that? Because you know, you can't get to the truth. You can't even have real science if you crush all dissent and dissenting views on something that may be speaking about an uncomfortable truth. Well, exactly. And when the government is making threats against media platforms or others who do not know what they call misinformation, unless they have been in trouble with the government, then it's very, very difficult to get the truth out.

And of course, it leads to a lot of distrust of agencies that we really need trust like the CDC and the FDA, like academic medical departments, like your public health department, or like your doctor. I mean, how can you trust your doctor when you know that he is virtually gagged by the government? You were talking in this note that you sent me the other day about J.B. Handley and you were discussing this man. He is the father of a profoundly autistic non-speaking son and with his son he ended up inventing the spell to communicate method of communication.

Right, it was quite amazing and I found out that his son is not mentally retarded, that he really is aware. The mechanism in his brain to connect to his speaking apparatus don't work. But he could learn to communicate quite well when he learned to spell. And I mean, this is a thing now for a lot of autistic children, so they are no longer in a prison of silence. But he is the one who's looked into the vaccine court cases in some very great detail, such as Hannah Poling and a couple of other damaged children. I have a grandson who is not really in my life. He's with a different set of grandparents, but I had warned my daughter back at the time here, doctor, about the MMR vaccine because I had read that Japan had banned the MMR vaccine for children

because they were having difficulties with reactions from that. And my grandson's descent into an autistic brain damaged system, so I guess that is a dog in my fight, if you want to call it that way, happened in that situation here. And he was being cared for by doctors within the public health system up in the Portland area. And they said, well, it's because he had Fragile X Syndrome. There was a genetic problem.

This is why his problem. But we couldn't help, but at least I couldn't help but notice that it happened after MMR was given to him. A lot of parents have noticed that. Let me just say that it is not necessarily untreatable or incurable. Ed Yazbek, the late Edward Yazbek, he was a pediatrician, a very busy pediatrician, had a grandson who became autistic after a vaccine. So he really looked into this and brought a lot of attention to the possible connection. But his grandson's mother left no stone unturned to try to find ways to help the child who

is now doing very well. So it's not something to be hopeless about or to give up about. But we do need to stop this from happening if we can. Do you think that we, in your medical opinion, we still should be pro-mandating MMR for people? I don't think vaccines should be mandated. I mean, I think we need informed consent for all kinds of medical interventions and each patient or his parents should weigh the benefits and the risks. You know, if there's a measles outbreak, you may want to consider getting the vaccine,

but we might want to give it a later age, maybe age three when a lot of the neurodevelopment has already occurred, we might want to give the antigen separately. We might want to look for a different vaccine altogether. But right now we're just locked into MMR. That's the only vaccine that Merck allows to be available. And so that's what we're going to do. I'm glad you brought that up because measles, of course, there's been a big talk of the

measles outbreak near the border in southern Texas, places like that. And of course, you always hear the same thing and this happens because of lack of a vaccine. And yet I remember it just being a childhood disease that we all just got in and kind of went through it okay, is what's happening down in Texas worse than what we used to experience back in the bad old days of the 60s and 70s prior to big, big MMR push? Well, measles can be a bad disease and can cause brain damage and even death. It is worse when you're a baby or when you're older and this is happening more often now that we don't have widespread natural immunity so that mothers can immunize their babies passively and the kids get it when they're school-aged when it's no big deal instead

of when they're teenagers when it's worse. So you know everything has trade-offs. So the vaccine prevented a lot of childhood measles, but perhaps it made the problem worse in the long run. Anyway, we're stuck with what we have now, and I think we should be looking into more treatments for viral diseases, as well as saying that everything has to be vaccinated only. All right. What is your overall take on RFK Jr.'s fight for autism? Do you think it

is a realistic timeline in September or would you look for that to be taking a little bit longer than he thinks? Well I think it's probably going to take longer and he needs to get all his ducks lined up and all his evidence lined up and I'm afraid he's getting diverted to other things like what they're petroleum based food dyes may be bad for you but they're not the cause of autism and they're not a big quantitative problem and we're not all going to become healthier just because we have different food dyes or no food dyes in our M&Ms. Okay. One final question I had for you here, doctor. This is a little bit out of the out of the vaccine and medication sort of situation. There is a lot of controversy about

the seed oils used in the American food supply and how it is very difficult to get away from the canolas and the rapeseeds and the processed highly processed corn oils and various other aspects. It's kind of a staple of the American diet and do you think there's something to that in chronic disease? I know that's something else that that RFK jr. is looking like. What about your own experience within the world? Well it's claimed that heart disease and things got a lot worse when we started going to so-called vegetable oils, which are seed oils. These used to be the healthy things instead of lard or beef tallow. We should be using vegetable oils. There's nothing poisonous should be using vegetable oils. You know, there's nothing poisonous about vegetable oils. It's just that they have a higher incidence of linoleic acid, which is one. It is an essential

fatty acid. It's just that the amount of it is much higher than in other things. And so probably having too much of it is not But remember, it's not poison. It's something that may be a little higher risk factor and maybe would be better off and maybe the french fries would taste better if you fried them in beef towel. But the evidence for it is really not terrific. Not terrific, yeah. I was reading that you're talking about the linoleic acid and the issue with that is that it is required, but we have a big, big overabundance of the linoleic acid in our diet as versus omega-6 acid and which is also a necessary, you know, acid and that the linoleic prevails and because of it being way over prevailing

that might be dealing with or causing some of the inflammation that we're dealing with in today's chronic illnesses? Yeah, that is certainly a possibility. All right, very good. I look forward to talking with you about this and many other things I can have you on for hours. You know how it goes, Doctor, but just for a few minutes this time. Appreciate the take on it. I will certainly spread the note that you popped me the other day on this issue with RFK Jr. We'll be keeping an eye on it. I know you'll keep us in the loop on this. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And once again, Dr. Jane Orient, MD. She's the Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, aapsonline.org. Wonderful

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Go ahead. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for having her on. I agree with 99% of what she said. But I wanted to talk about J.B. Handley because he's sort of an unsung hero in all of this and she brought him up. He is a Stanford MBA.

He's brilliant. He made a whole bunch of money as an investment banker. He lives in Portland and he started one of the first autism groups called Generation Rescue with Jenny McCarthy decades ago. And they were on the Doctors TV show many years ago and you can still watch the clip on YouTube and he and Jenny were talking about the association of vaccines with autism and one of the doctors just like blew a gasket and started screaming because he didn't have anything else to, he couldn't respond so he just basically shut the discussion

down by yelling. And anyway, J.B.'s written a lot of books, but one of the producers on that show who'd won Emmys is Del Bigtree, and Del Bigtree was like, wow, I got to find out about this. So he started researching, and it wasn't allowed to cover it on the doctors. So he started his own organization called The Highwire. Yeah, I'm aware of that.

He does, I think it's at least a weekly, sometimes more often show, right? Every Thursday. It's online now, so you can watch it anytime you want to. And great show. You learn a lot about all kinds of topics. But also part of this organization is it's fully donor supported

and they have engaged Aaron Seary to sue. And they have won so many lawsuits against the federal government and they got the CDC to admit that they have no studies showing that vaccines don't cause autism. The ones that are given between birth and six months, they don't have a single study showing that they don't cause autism. So that's just one of the most important things that they have sued. They sued on all kinds of things, but arguably the most effective medical freedom organization in the country and also very well-sourced. He's a journalist, and so I

trust his experts. They're just fantastic. Sounds like you got to get in touch with his JB fellow, too. Yeah. I don't know if he'd be willing to come on. He's a little bit grumpy after all these years. He loves to talk about spellers, which is amazing. And a lot of the autism community is resisting the idea of spellers, and I don't quite understand that. Okay, resisting what now? They are criticizing and rejecting the spellers. Oh, the speller thing that he invented, right?

Why would they reject that? I don't know. I don't understand it. But he's put out a documentary. You can watch his kid doing it. And his kid went to school now. And he used to like, I don like, not violent is the right word, but he would get very angry and agitated to the special ed programs he was sent to just because he could not communicate. And now he's a completely different person and he has very wise things to say. And it's amazing what these kids know.

They just can't share it. You have many, so many of these children that we put in special ed are actually imprisoned and unable to communicate rather than being mentally or mentally handicapped as the case might be like. They don't have a high level of thought process. Many of them are brilliant, but their brains have been damaged and destroyed, well destroyed is too strong a word, but very badly damaged by the vaccines that they got. Boy, what a hell, what a living hell to be in prison that way too.

Yeah. And I just, on Bobby, I don't know what he's going to do. I think he was planning on releasing the vaccine safety data link, which was a government database of HMOs from various large HMOs all around the country. And it clearly showed that vaccines cause all kinds of harms, including autism. And the CDC had locked it up and not let anyone to see it. And he was going to, but they destroyed the data. They sent it all back. So I don't know if it can be recovered or what, but they know, they know what they've done and he'll find a way. All right. I hope you're right. Really quick.

She's saying that the guys aren't the big issue, which she doesn't point, realize he's building public trust on these less controversial issues. He can't just come right out and say what he knows because the media will say, see, we knew he was a nut and that'll be the end of Bobby Kennedy. Yeah. So you go after the guy that dies in fruit loops first, you know, and work a little something and you get people used to taking a more jaundiced view at some of the food items there. By the way, have you changed your cooking oils? I'm just curious. I've been looking a lot at this and the only oils we have at home now are olive oil for

not frying and then avocado for frying is what we're doing at this point in time. I've read avocado oil is problematic also, but who knows? Yeah, I've read that it's problematic if it's not cold pressed because, and there's almost evidence here that I'm starting to look at, Epic Times had a great long article about the seed oil and the cooking oil controversies, which I would highly recommend everybody find that, just look it up. It's a long read though, but it's a lot of back and forth. You know, this is what some people are saying, other people, I thought it was very evenly handled. And what they ended up mentioning is that what could be

causing more problems in the cooking oils they were having may not even be the seed or fruit oil side of it, but whether or not it's processed. Because the chemicals that they use to, like hexane as an example, you dissolve the oil into hexane, a solvent, and then you bleach it, then you dye it, and you deodorize it, and you get the tastes out of it and everything else, and that it could be the process, and what's left over from the process that could be causing just as much trouble as the oils themselves, which I thought it was interesting. Yeah, 100%.

And I think what we should all do is eat food the way God made it, as close as we can get it. That's the safest. Anything processed is going to have problematic side effects. And for convenience sake, you might do it once in a while, but generally we should eat food as close to the way it came out of nature as we possibly can. Whole milk, not 2%. Organic, whenever we can get it. Unpasteurized milk, if we can get it. You have to go to the farm in Oregon to get that. Yeah, exactly. All right. Hey, Lynn, I always appreciate the call. Thanks for checking in, okay? Be well.

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This is something that you have been focusing on. I think you're ready to make a little bit of noise on this. But is this a bill which passed out of the House and is now over in the Senate chamber? What is its current status? And then we'll talk about what it does, which seems a little flaky. Yes. It is passed out of the House and it's now on its way over here. It hasn't been in committee here yet, but it's on its way to the Education Committee. All right, and I'm looking at the sponsorship of it. It was sponsored by Representative Owens, Representative Harbick, and Representative McIntyre.

That kind of surprises me, here from Southern Oregon. Yes, and we have Rushkey and Wright, Harvick, sponsored by some conservatives. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Now, the way I'm reading it, I took a brief look at it this morning because I had heard from you, kind of in a roundabout way, about what House Bill 3624 would essentially require the registration of all children in homeschooling, right? Well, there's existing laws about that already. There are, okay. Yes, there are. They're not always followed, and homeschoolers do so much better.

It's fine. What 3624, and now to be clear, the introduced bill, and I don't know the politics that went on in the House over there, but the introduced bill simply required, because they had required state testing every few years for homeschool students, which is intermittently followed. And so the original bill just required the state to cover the fee involved, which I don't think we need, but that's what they were doing. However, after going through committee, it now includes language that they will test homeschoolers three times a year and that the Education Service Directorate shall decide what the examinations will be. And of course, now we're not just talking

about how educated the children are, we're talking about the indoctrination as well. There's another bill on its way over. On 3365, we'll be required for schools to teach climate change education to all the students. By the way, not just climate change, I think it's actually you have to teach human anthropogenic global warming. That's exactly right. A wonderful theory which has absolutely no proof. It is just a left, well, a climate cult accepted theory of life, is it not?

That's exactly right. And I studied the science very carefully on this. We've been involved, as you know, we were involved in a petition project. 31,000 scientists signed up saying this was not a problem. You look at the science of this, it's not an issue, but it's a political issue. And there is no question that they are going to be teaching that humans are destroying the planet in these courses. And so, if you have then homeschooled children who are doing their best to escape such rank indoctrination from the public school

system, they would be expected then to test using state tests and then they better come up with the right answers, at least according to the state indoctrination. Is that not what we're looking at? That's exactly what could happen and is likely to happen. So I would say that homeschoolers, homeschool students learn well, most of them do very well, the average is way better, and the idea that the state who can't get education right is going to insist on tests for homeschoolers to make sure that they are teaching their children correctly is absurd. The state can't do it right, the homeschoolers can, and so

then the state is going to come in and say, hey, we want to check you. Uh-huh. You know, it would seem to me that if the only thing that the state should be doing to check in on the homeschoolers is try to figure out why the homeschoolers seem to do so well, most of the time, and then replicate that within the government classrooms. Do you think that might be where the reason they want to have a nice tight leash on them? That's what I've been telling the senators up here. Oh, yeah? in the government classrooms. Do you think that might be the reason they want to have a nice tight leash on them?

That's what I've been telling the senators up here. Oh yeah? And advocate for this. Well, I keep pointing out that we're spending $17,000 a student at the state level. Homeschoolers for practically nothing, a few hundred dollars a year can give a good education to a child. And we're talking about mothers, in many cases, have never been involved in education before, have never taught a child before, and they just... You get a phonics program, it's an instruction. You teach your child phonics, then you teach them the other subject.

There's lots of programs out there. Homeschoolers can figure it out with no experience, but the state can't get it right. And it's astonishing to me. I just... I keep mentioning this, I keep talking about it, you know. Why don't we go look at what actually works? What actually works is thought, what actually works is actually studying and learning something rather than this current system, which doesn't work very well. They have a new thing they call the science of

reading. Yes, I was talking about that a few weeks ago. And my mother did not go through the science of reading course. She just taught me to read when I was a young boy, three, four years old. She loved to read and she helped me sound it out. She basically did phonics with me as a young boy. Yeah, but you know what the science of reading is? What? Supposedly phonics. What's happened is they went away from phonics for decades. They had all this look-say, procedures that didn't work. And so the... and I have not looked at the science of reading programs, but it's basically a way of trying to come back to phonics and pretend we

discovered something new. Oh, is that what that is? Okay. Yeah. Hey, I wanted to ask you about the science of math too, all right? Since all you kids in the Robinson family were homeschooled, you all got PhDs and doctorates and highfalutin degrees here because you're a bunch of underachievers. You know, I get that. All right? But in all seriousness, what is going on with mathematics that the way children are being taught mathematics right now, their parents who pass school and college can't even help them with it. Do you know what's going on with that? What kind of weird theories

are coming out of the current system? I have heard rumors about all sorts of odd ways of teaching math and I'm not familiar with exactly the ones you're referring to. Math itself, when we started to homesc... and you know my mother died when I was 10 and we fell into a self-teaching method where we learned to learn on our own, which worked out very well. My father was very sharp about this. He said you should do math first. And the reason is because math, and it's not just because you're going to do, you're

going to need it in life, some people use it more than others, but because it trains your brain, it teaches you how to think. Having a good grasp of math, working math problems, that's what you need in order to be able to think. It's very important for brain development. So math and then the sciences that follow, but primarily math, algebra, calculus, that's involved in learning to think quantitatively, which unfortunately we have a problem with today because a lot of people haven't had an opportunity to learn it. Yeah, and there's a real problem with the numeracy, the difficulty of conceptualizing large numbers that also plagues us,

especially when you talk about government spending. Yikes. Yeah, that's right. And that's a fundamental problem, and it's worse if you have no education. My dad's thesis advisor, who discovered carbon-14, a very famous scientist, used to comment that even scientists could only think over so many orders of magnitude. You either existed in a very small world where you're thinking about atoms, or you're thinking about very large things, large quantities of atoms, or atmospheric things, or astronomers think about very large things. But it's hard to comprehend

large differences in orders of magnitude. So you're used to dealing with money in small amounts, five or ten dollars means something, a hundred dollars means something. When you talk about a trillion dollars, people are lost. It's just a big number. Yeah. Well, the reason I was bringing up the math issue here, and I don't know if there's something, I know you're very busy during the session, but given the brain power that you've been able to bring to legislative action here,

maybe it'd be worth looking at because the way it appeared to me is that there's been a war against rote learning of, you know, when I was a young child, it was, you know, you'd learn the times tables in addition and the division and subtraction and the squaring and the cubing, you know, all of that, you know, kind of stuff. And you would memorize it at first and then, of course, it just became an innate part of your personality. You knew what three cubed was. It was not a big deal. And it seems like now the whole idea is to slow people down from actually just knowing what something is and then you've got to show your work on absolutely everything in some bizarre fashion that doesn't seem

to make logical sense to anybody that learned math in a different way. And you know it almost seems like it's designed to make sure that parents can't help their children with mathematics problems assigned by the government school. That's what I was getting at here. Well that might be right and yes I'll be happy to look into it more. The memorizing your your basic multiplication tables and addition tables and so forth is very important because it allows you to compute things very quickly. If you have to work it out each one even if your brain gets very fast that it will slow you down. So memorizing those things

like you say is very important and if you're going to force everyone to multiply it out every time that makes no sense. I don't know what's going on. It's of course important. So back to House Bill 3624, you know, the whole reason we're talking about this though is that they want to go after the home school kids and they want them signed up within the government. And now I'm kind of curious, is there a government school incentive like money coming from the state that they get for signing up and tracking these kids? Do you know?

In House Bill 3624? I don't see it in the bill itself. I don't know all the laws surrounding it, and I don't know whether there's money transfers involved. There's of course might be an interest in future transfers. They're always thinking about ways to get more money to the one way or another. But the biggest concern about this is getting the government fingers more into the homeschoolers. And it's not just basic arithmetic and reading.

It can easily be indoctrination of various kinds, and we might not just be on the global warming issue. What other things do you not want the government teaching your children? Well, what about pronouns? Could we have the state of Oregon mandating, you know, the Island of Misfit Humans dictionary of pronouns there? That's exactly right. Many homeschoolers, I would say the majority of them, started homeschooling simply because they didn't want their children indoctrinated in the public schools. It's extremely common. And then it turns out

that they do better as well. Well it certainly happened in your family, right? Yes, it worked out extremely well for us and I wouldn't have done anything else. Now are you aware of a big problem with homeschoolers that don't really educate their children and it's just a whole deal about keeping them home and keeping them out of society in general because it almost seems like that's what House Bill 3624 is fearing or is working in reaction to a fear of that. It happens yes but it happens more in the public school. Really? The absence rate is they're claiming the absence rate in the public school is something like 33% now.

And a lot of children don't come to school reliably. So yes, it does happen everywhere, but you just have to look at the averages, and most homeschoolers do extremely well. HOUSE BELL 3624, it passed the House then, so it's in the Senate. What are you trying to do with it right now, and is there anything that we can do as the people to influence its either modification or maybe just trouncing it? Do we need it first off in your view? I don't think we need it. And I think that the introducers probably felt they were doing something nice for the homeschoolers by just covering the fees if they had to take a test. And then I don't know what happened in committee, and I haven't had a chance actually to talk to everyone on that committee, even ones on our side, so I don't know the details of it. But as it stands, I think it's a very bad thing.

And I would oppose it and either try to amend it to something else. We'll see. It's going to be an education committee, or maybe it'd be better just to drop this one and do something else. All right. Should we be, as people doing something about this with senators at this point? Now, Senator Golden at some point would get a chance to vote on this, right? If it gets to the floor. If it gets to the floor. If it gets to the floor, which I hope it does. So who are the members of the committee here in the Senate on this? So it's me. I'm on the Education Committee. Fredericks is the chair. We also have Senator Solman and Senator Gelser Blum is a Democrat and then Senator Weber is the other Republican. Would pressure, I would pardon me here Senator, would pressure be appropriate to be placed on the

committee members just to, hey we don't really need this. What do you think? Yes, I would highly recommend it. All right, very good. I'll tell you what, Noah, it is a pleasure having you on. Thanks for letting me know because, you know, anytime it is like, here we're the public school system, we're here to help you, the homeschoolers, I would be very, very afraid. Okay, that's exactly all I'm getting at. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. House Bill 3624 does appear to be a potential wolf in kind of sheepy clothing. I'd be sheepish kind of introducing this or even sponsoring it, but that's just me. It's a 758 KMED and 993 KBXG. You're worried because your home has been on market with no success. An expired listing can be frustrating, but it doesn't have to be the end of your journey.

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and you're waking up with the Bill Meyer show. Every now and then as I go through the Oregonian, oh, by the way, this is KMED and KMED HD1 Eagle Point Medford, KBXG Grants Pass, the legal ID is required by Federal Communications Standards. All right. I go through the Dear Abby thing. Dear Abby, this one caught my eye and I'm just thinking how do you deal with this one? You actually have to try to explain this. Dear Abby, I have a set of Chippendale-style dining chairs that are more than 100 years old. They are of sentimental value to me because I grew up with them.

Recently, at considerable expense, I had them repaired, repainted, and reupholstered. Repainted? You had Chippendale-style dining chairs repainted? Really? Okay, there goes the value, there goes the patina, right? But anyway, so anyway, I had these Chippendale-style dining chairs, in other words, they're very light, sticky kind of dining chairs. She says, and then she says, my husband's son-in-law, Isaac, whom I love very much, weighs between 450 and 500 pounds. That is a big boy.

And when the family is dining, he uses one of the chairs. They're not intended to hold such weight. And imagine so, 450 to 500 pounds. My husband and I agree that we should buy a heavy-duty chair that can accommodate Isaac's weight. However, I don't know how to convey to Isaac that the new chair is for him without causing offense or hurt feelings. Do you have a suggestion? Treading Lightly. This is what this is in Dear Abby over the weekend. I'm reading this and it says, Dear Treading, your husband should explain the potential problem to his daughter

So she can point out to her husband that a special dining room chair has been acquired for him to use at family dinners Hmm, I don't think that I don't think that works I think if you're talking about if you're talking about a family that is That is that worried about stepping around the 450 to 500 pound Isaac, who Isaac knows that he's 450 to 500 pounds, probably a millennial, right? Could be a millennial kid, right? Something like that who is now an adult. And what was everything about the millennials we were told? Safety. The safety cult was imposed on them, right? So what you do is that you go to Isaac and you say, listen, Isaac, we're looking out for your safety because these chairs, these Chippendale chairs were just not built, they're

not very safe for people of modern size and such. So it's just not going to work. It would not be safe for you to sit on that chair. Don't make it about the chairs splintering and losing their value. Although if you've repaired and repainted them, you've already destroyed their value, you dim ball. But that being said, what do you think? Would you just tell Isaac, the big fat guy, that it'd be unsafe? It's safety? And then he's been hearing about safety all his entire life, right? Isaac would probably be fine with it. What do you think? I don't know. Let's keep it there. I think that works. I think that works better than saying, we have a special chair for you. Oh, well you think I need

a special chair? What are you commenting on? Well, you know, you have a 72-inch waist. I don't know. I think Isaac knows that Chipmadill chair probably is not for him. Anyway, news is coming up. Dr. Dennis Powers will be joining me. We'll talk about the the renegade lawyers and the renegade judges and the renegade everything else in the legal system too. You know what I like about Freddie's Diner?