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Yes. So they call that an RUD, which is a rapid, unscheduled disassembly. I've never heard that term. A Rud, huh? Yeah. At RUD. Yeah. I can't wait to start using that in my life here.

Yeah, exactly. In other words, if a transmitter that I'll maintain goes bad, well, I'm sorry, it was a rapid, unintended disassembly, right? That's when I'm supposed to... Unscheduled. Oh, a rapid, unscheduled disassembly. Sorry, boss. Yeah.

That's what happened. Like when your engine throws a rod while you're driving down the road. A rapid, unintended, unscheduled, not, it's unscheduled. All right. On schedule. Write it down, Bill. Okay, I will. Now, honestly, Jeff, don't you kind of miss clear language, though?

Just language that means what it is and, you know, says what it is and means what it is. and, you know. I miss it every day because when you talk to some of the younger generation and normal language, they don't understand what you're saying. Could you give me an example of that? Now, there's always been some intergenerational problems with communication. Right. Well, I'm a person who does not text.

Mm-hmm. Right. So when I see, I get text, but I don't send text. But when you look at the younger generation and how they text, they probably can't spell the word. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, okay. So it's filled with so many abbreviations and emojis and various other things that it becomes almost like you're having to decipher a puzzle. Is that what you're getting at? Well, it's having an understanding of what the words actually mean.

Okay. Well, this is what happened. Well, we got rid of Christianity in the schools in the 1960s, and then we got rid of cursive. What? We got rid of cursive, what, 20 years ago, maybe, 20, 30 years ago. We got rid of failing grades. Oh, that's true. That's true.

And we get rid of failing grades because, well, every, Everybody has to have their participation trophy. There was this thing called vocabulary. Yeah, it's important. Thank you for bringing it up this morning, though. But the rapid unscheduled disassembly, I'll remember that anytime something blows up, huh? Butler Ford has X-Plan pricing. What is X-Plan pricing?

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Sunshine and warmth this afternoon, high of 76. We'll drop the 43 overnight, high temperature of 82 Thursday, 81, and partly cloudy Friday with a breezy wind. And then we're getting back into some rain chances through the weekend. This hour of the Bill Meyer show is sponsored by Glacier Heating and Air, making sense of the heating and air business. Now more. Bill Meyer. What a pleasure to bring back Dr. Carol Lieberman on the show. ZMD. MPAH, known worldwide as America's psychiatrist, the host of Dr. Carol's couch on

VoiceAmerica.com and the terrorist therapist podcast with a little registered bubble next to that too. So that's your trademark, isn't it, Doctor? Welcome back to the show. Yes, it is. Thank you. All right. Well, I'm glad that you are mentally healthy, but is it just me or does it seem that about half of America is back on old crazy these days and getting crazier as time goes on?

And it's more than just, well, the teacher of the month in Torrance, who ended up, you know, getting popped over the weekend, trying to shoot up the White House correspondence dinner there unsuccessfully, fortunately. But what do you think in the reaction after that? And where would you, if you were to put us all on the couch, what would you say, huh? Oh, man. I would say, well, on the one hand, I would say we should all get to a psychiatrist. Yeah. But these days, if you went to a psychiatrist, you'd probably just get pumped full of pills. So I don't know that that's a great idea.

But we have to start taking better care of our own mental health. Certainly we can all do that. There are lots of different ways to do that, you know, being involved in nature and so on. But getting back to Mr. Cole Thomas Allen, the man who disrupted the White House correspondence dinner. Yeah, who actually put his, you know, his manifesto into writing and put it out there. And, of course, it almost sounded like it was like MS now, like written by the folks over at MS now, when you say? Yes. Yeah.

You know, you probably saw the press conference that Trump had after the shooting incident. You know, afterwards he told everybody, well, he wanted to stay at the Hilton Hotel and continue with the dinner. But he was hungry. But he was also brave. to show that nothing like that, no people like that are going to stop, you know, what they're doing. But anyway. Yeah.

And he did himself well, by the way, in that, in that press conference, it was very, very calm, kind of a absolutely. Yeah, it was good. He showed everybody that it didn't scare him and that he was, he was talking about it very rationally, and he was great. And what he said was, this man, the shooter, was sick. and he absolutely was he had Trump derangement syndrome. And he might have had some other things as well,

but he certainly had a very bad case of Trump derangement syndrome. And that, you know, it shows he has an amazing, he had an amazing, amazing education, really good schools, two degrees. Yeah, yeah, Cole was a smart guy, you know, technically, or intellectually appear to be very intelligent, well-educated, and well-spoken in many ways. So what it proves is that intelligence doesn't protect you from Trump derangement syndrome. And clearly, you know, his manifesto, of course, he's filled with lies, you know, in the sense of what he says about Trump. But it's very interesting because it's very sort of calmly written.

I mean, he wrote it before, at some point before, well, he wrote part of it, I think, significantly before, and then he broke the other part after. And by the way, I must say here, interject here, Dr. Lieberman, that the part of the manifesto, the only part that I agreed with was when he was talking about the security. And he was, and he was sneering at that. And I thought that that was valid, and I'm sure the director of the Secret Service is on the hot seat over this, I'm sure. Yes. Well, I mean, that was what I was referring to. The part that he wrote at some point before, before he got there, got to the hotel, he simply reserved a room at the hotel, you know, which is one of the examples of what, you know, why that hotel is not a good idea. I mean, President Reagan, there was an attempt on Reagan's life at that hotel. I don't know why they keep going back to that hotel, but there's obviously very poor security there. So the first part of his manifesto is apologizing to people, you know, his parents and students and people like he's saying, you're going to be surprised. By now you will have heard of what I did and you will be surprised, et cetera, et cetera.

And I'm sorry for like lying about where I said I was going and all that. You know, he told his parents and the students different things for why he was going to be absent. And then he goes into talking about these objections. like people anticipating what people are going to say for why this was not a good idea and answering those objections. But then the second part, which he had to have written after he got to the hotel, was that all the security laxes, you know, including he took a train from Los Angeles to Chicago to D.C., which is very interesting because he must have met some people, in my opinion, that could have been just because that was a cheaper ticket to go, you know, not go direct or something or to, or that that's the way you have to go.

But I think he may have bet somebody in Chicago who has the same idea. But anyhow, he was talking about all the security lapses, which, yes, you know, it's unfortunately he's so far. He isn't talking, you know, isn't talking to, he's in jail. Yeah, well, he's lawyered up and not cooperating at this point. Right. But, you know, he obviously can tell us a lot of interesting things about where the security lapses were from the train. He mentioned us, you know, the train that he got, he traveled all this way with his weapons. And nobody stopped him.

And then, of course, the hotel itself. So, but, you know, the bad part about the manifesto is things that he calls Trump, which are totally lies. And, yeah, you mean, all the petto, all the petto talk nonsense that just seems to be. be and I have to, but I want to tell you this is nothing unusual. I will give you an example. This is from a close member of my family, right, who called me, who called me up one time doctor. And what she said, is that I'm so disappointed in you, Bill. And I said, well, why? And I said, because you voted for a man who was not only a pedophile rapist, but he is trying to kill my children. He's going to kill, he wants to kill my children. And I said, what are you talking about?

This is utter nonsense. And, She literally believes. And, of course, this relative has conducted her life, three children out of wedlock, okay? And each and every one of them are either on the autism spectrum or supposed autism spectrum or LGBTQ plus plus plus two spirit, something, something, something other and wanting to go trans, that kind of thing. That's what we're talking about here, right? And so she looks at the Trump administration, says she's trying to kill my kids or he's trying to kill my kids. I don't think this is unusual. I think every family has at least one or maybe more members.

Yes, kind of like this. That is true. And to get back to what you were saying before, a lot of it has to do with the mainstream media that is spreading these lies. And yes, so it makes people really believe them. I mean, hey, if it's on television, it must be true, right? It's very, very unfortunate. You know, and all these things get exaggerated. And then, of course, now there's this whole conspiracy theory that this shooter, this alleged, this assassin, almost would be assassin, you know, is all fake.

And it was set up by Trump. Oh, yeah, that it was a setup. And I know I'm seeing people that I would otherwise think were reasonably well-educated, well-thought-out people talking about, oh, yeah, setting up an assassination every time, like three times the attempted assassination, right? This is when people were saying, well, gee, you know, Obama served for eight years, and this racist country didn't once try to take a pot shot at him, right? Which is unfortunate. I know I shouldn't say that. But Obama was the worst president we ever had.

But, yes, now we know that it's not a fake. One way that we know it's not a fake is by looking at Melania's face when this happened. Because the look of horror on her face could not, even if she could not, even if she could, was, you know, the greatest actress in the world could not be duplicated. I mean, she really was horrified. So it was not a fake. I mean, it was not a fake. Yes, it was not a fake. Certainly, she believes that it was not a fake. And if it had been a fake, Trump would have told her. So that's, you know, why this idea is ridiculous. You know about the whole Jimmy Kimmel scandal? Well, he doesn't think it's a scandal, but, you know. You know, I watched that. And my thing

is that, yeah, it's a bad joke, and it was a bad tasteless joke before, but he's a bad tasteless comedian, okay? I didn't, I didn't look at that, and I also don't look at the seashells as a good case either. Am I wrong, in your opinion? You know, the seashells with Comey? Well, yeah, you are wrong with the seashells. She said, see-sou-seals, sea-sels by the seashells. Yeah. He said, he absolutely knew what he was doing. You know, he tried to make that, oh, I was going on this walk, and look what I happened to bind on the beach. I mean, really? So, yes, I think he does deserve to be indicted. Really? Okay. Yeah. I mean, I guess you and I may, to me, I think that there are stronger

cases to go out there and, okay, well, we'll agree to disagree, you know, on that so far. Okay. Well, he's in my severe category of my Trump derangement syndrome, diagnostic classification, Comey is, because, yes, because, you know, because that kind of thing, 86, 47, that is one of the things that could spur people on to try to assassinate the president. Now, you know, Trump has so many different people trying to assassinate him. I mean, we have the people who are sick with Trump's derangement syndrome. We have Iran. Not only is there a fatwa out on him, a religious edict, which would cause anyone who assassinated him to get praised in heaven.

Allah would give him more than the 72 virgins. But also, Iranian state television played because they're just trying in general. You know, aside from the fatwa, they're trying to get people to assassinate Trump. And they played the butler would be assassination. And they, you know, with the idea that they would be motivating people or stimulating people, telling people to finish the job. So he has people all over for all different reasons who want to assassinate him. And the fact that he keeps working his little push off or maybe not so little.

Yeah, not so little, but say he's working. It speaks well to him. Let me ask you, though, as a, you know, being the psychiatrist here, you know, by profession, what is it in the president, in president? What is it in President Trump's personality here, Dr. Lieberman, that tends to bring out the derangement in so many people. Is there something specific about his particular personality that does it or not? I mean, on the one hand, you know, he is a bit of a bull in a China shop, but if he wasn't like that, he couldn't get all these things done that he's been getting done. But it's also because,

you know, the people who are most vulnerable to getting Trump's derangement syndrome, it's men, it's men who have low self-esteem. It's men who feel they compare themselves to Trump, and they, you know, they don't have as much money. They don't have as beautiful a wife. They don't have as much power. And they feel less than, and they don't like that. But for men who feel like, you know, happy in their life and feel like they're accomplishing things, sure, maybe they may not be president, but they're happy with what they have accomplished.

And, you know, they don't have this kind of problem. But for people who really are not happy with their lives or with their wives or, you know, want to be like Trump, which they were had what Trump had, then they are, they blame everything on Trump. They blame the fact that they don't have the perfect life on Trump. And then for women, the women who are most vulnerable to. Yeah, because I hear more from women who are just absolutely incensed and deranged over Trump. So what is it in many female personalities that find him just intolerable? Can't stand it? Well, yes, you know, the highest group, the group that has, I mean, according to studies,

I didn't do this study, but, you know, from what I have read, the people who have the most TDS are white women with college education. And really it has to do with women who have, it started with the person. he has. And it's women who have problems with men. And Trump, for some of them, are the reason why they have, I mean, well, not the reason reason, but in other words, a man like Trump would be some man that they don't want to be with. Is this, well, to cut to the chase here, is it a daddy issue sort of thing? Well, it's always a daddy issue, yes. Okay. Well, you know, it starts with men and women. It's, it's, It does start with having authority issues, having issues with your parents because they are the first authority figures who you have.

And then you may go on to have problems with other authority figures. And, you know, certainly Trump would be an authority figure. So, yes, it's all, you know, for different people, it's a different combination of factors. But people with TBS have Chardon Freud. In other words, they are happy at any kind of downfall that Trump has. They are happy at his, you know, like, well, some of them actually have admitted it. Oh, I wish he had gotten into the ballroom, you know, that kind of thing. Yikes.

Okay. Dr. Carol Lieberman, since you do the terrorist therapist podcast and given the fact that we have people that actually wish to go out and do terrorism or political terrorism as the case might be, how do you think we ought to respond to this? Because I think being squishy is not necessarily going to help. And you can't put half the country. you know, in lockup, you know, for thinking this way. Where do you go? Well, I do think that we need to have more punishments at lower levels so people don't get to the higher levels. I mean, like, for example, the students, when there were the student protests or, you know, I'm sure they're not completely over,

they should have been punished more than they were. Most of them got nothing, you know, not even a slap on the wrist. So we have to start at lower levels to get people to realize, that this is not okay behavior. So once again, it's just bringing accountability back to the system, and there's not a lot of accountability right now, is there? That's right. That's right. All right.

Dr. Carol Lieberman, M.D. M.P.H., America's Psychiatrist. Where can everybody find out everything about you? Everything, Dr. Carol Lieberman. Where you go? Oh, man. Terrorist Therapist.com or expert witness forensic psychiatrist.com or just X. I rant on X. All right.

I always appreciate your ranting, but they're mentally healthy rants, right? Just want to be clear about this. Mentally healthy rants, right? Yes, yes. Okay. Not loony rants. We have enough loony rants on X, okay? Can you read anything on that?

I point out things that people need to beware of. Thanks, doctor. Always good talk. Appreciate that. All right, thank you. 732 at KMED, KBXG. This is the Bill Meyer show. Your smile is the,

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I'm good. Thank you very much, man. All right. How are you? Tell me, I'm doing well. Doing well. And so you are all about Seoul. You always have been into jazz. Tell us a little bit about your background here.

And then we'll dig into some of the people you've talked to over the years, you know, being big part of Columbia Records back in the day when it really mattered, I think. Well, I was born in Philly and I grew up there in and around Philly. We moved out to the suburbs. But, you know, I was always in. My father worked in Philly and West Philly first and just up in Huntington Park on Broad Street. So, and then once I started into, you know, I played sports and I was, once basketball became my primary sport and, you know, Philadelphia was a word.

The games were like just as the playground runs, which I, you know, found out, you know, about a guy on the team took me and said, you got to, you can be better. You can, you know, you need to play here. So then, and then the games that the bluster, the college games then, just incredible. Villanova, but, you know, the energy part of, you know, like the radio, which is what I discovered, you know, really drew me in Philadelphia was a great radio town when I was growing up in the 60s, and it had just these personalities that were, I just looked at them as larger than life, you know. They all had a very distinct personality, the vocabularies. You know, it was just, that had its own magic for me.

And then they, you know, they had the keys to the music. And, you know, just that was pouring out. And just, I don't know, at a certain point, you know, it just took me over. And it took you over, but how did you end up making it then finally into, like, one of the biggest record companies in the entire world, Columbia, and, you know, hanging out and working with the bigs? Now, A&R, that's artist and repertoire. So you were in charge of what, finding talent and getting them on the records and on the radio?

weren't you? Well, yeah, it's either you find a talent, you sign people, or you're given, you know, artists to work with who are the existing artists on the label, which is really what I did when I first started primarily. But, you know, I was a writer before I was in the record business, a journalist. And, you know, the book is really about that period of my life. and the music that I like, even when I wrote what I write afterward, but I write about, it ends with me getting hired at Columbia. It's a passion project, the labor of love, and it was also a vanity project to some extent.

But I wanted to memorialize these artists that allowed me into their life to watch them, to talk to them. Can you tell you about some of the highlights in there? Give us a little taste of it, a little taste of the tasty cakes, if you don't mind. Well, the interview with Michael Jackson, and just the time I spent around him, you know, when he was

filming the Wiz back in 1977, the Jackson's were kind of at a somewhat lower, low ebb at that point, and Michael was 19. So, and I'm just, he was, he was a much more

approachable person. I think he was old enough to want to be able to talk and verbalize, on his own. But, you know, as was going on in front of me, he wasn't allowed to go out by himself, which he wanted to do

to go to a party in, you know, Granite Village, New York. Yeah, father was very controlling, even as a 19-year-old, right? Isn't that the deal? Yeah, just, you know, he had, his publicist was around, and then there was a bodyguard, but basically, you know, at that point,

you know, he, You know, to me it was just like he was a kid, you know, and he's 19, and I was a kid, you know, it was about 26 and 27. But, you know, I just really, once we got, we were just alone in this bedroom where there. Latoya was there to kind of be a minder for the family. And, you know, I just really liked them. I felt, you know, a lot of different feelings about them. Yeah, did you see any of the, what became alleged weirdness, you know, over time? Or was that something that developed after you know him in that?

I mean, no, not at all. You know, I mean, what it was apparent because we talked a lot about it was how he grew up. And he, you know, he told me his stories about being in the basement with his brothers and fathers when he was five years old, rehearsing all the time every day. And he's looking out the basement window and, like, there's a little field next to where they lived and the kids were out there playing, and he never was out there playing. And then doing shows at night,

like in and around Gary, Indiana, nightclubs. I mean, here's this little kid, you know. In other words, not a normal childhood, Joe. It's really what you're getting down to. And, you know, people gave him money. You know, he was going into school with like $100 in his pocket, or, you know, loose bill.

He started to know that, And when he went to the bathroom, a lot of times he'd come out without any money. Yeah. And, you know, it just, you know, I felt sorry for him in a lot of respect. Yeah. I also really liked them in another way. You know, your passion project here, which again is Tasty Cake, Soul Songs, and Shining Stars. A lot of artist profiles in people that you have known over the years that I found quite interesting reading.

And you had mentioned that one of them was Paul Simon. and I would I've always been interested in Simon and Garfunkel. Even when I was a little kid, I was all over there music and I enjoyed it all these years. But I always figured that Paul Simon must be a difficult personality. What was your experience with him, if any at all, at Columbia? Well, my intersection with him was during the Cape Man Project, which was a Broadway play that he had written about a specific incident. It was a different, a more realized version, a real version of that happened of a fight between a Latin gang and some Irish kids in Hell's Kitchen.

And one of the Irish kids got stabbed. And when Paul was young, this was probably in the late 50s younger, you know, that was a big New York story because the kid had a cape on. So anyway, he wrote this play musical. And he needed someone to bounce stuff off of. And at that time, Warner's was in a lot of tumult. Mo, Austin, and Lenny Warniger, who were the architects of the great Warner Brothers. And he had been there when I was there, had left. And the corporation was really in turmoil in the music section.

So tag your it? Tag your it? Was that it? Well, just into, you know, Ball's manager, publicist, brought me to meet him. And, you know, Paul, he went to his house and, you know, big apartment. I was, he had his little, you know, the elevator went right to his, like, music room for himself. You know, and he asked me, like, you know, who are you?

What do you do? Are you a producer? No, I'm an A&R guy, man. I'm here to, you know, if you want to bounce stuff off me, you know. So gradually, you know, he let me in more and more. He says, why don't you come to a rehearsal? You know, why don't you, you know, just, you know. Overall, though, was it tough?

I only got a few seconds left with you. I just want to find out because he always struck me, you know, dark brooding kind of personality. I mean, how was that? Well, he was a real perfectionist. And he could be very tough on the band. And he was, you know, he knew what he wanted. And I've had that experience, like writing,

I saw Alan Toussaint, the producer like that. Burk Backerach was like that. But Paul just, you know, and it was no nonsense, you know, he could be hard on the musicians. You know, he knew what he wanted. He had great sense of pitch and rhythm. He was really good with Latin rhythms, like issue of different rhythms. Well, I love the stories that you brought in there. I mean, I really enjoyed, I mean, honestly, he was very smart everything about this project.

Well, you're bringing up a lot of stories from that golden age as far as I'm. concerned of some of the best music ever made there. And it's called Tasty Cakes. I appreciate you coming on. I know you have a few minutes. You got to go with some other people. So we'll let you go. But it is Tasty Cakes, Soul Songs and Shining Stars. And this is by Joe McEwen. And I've been leafing through it. And I think it's a pretty good job on that. Thank you, Joe. Great getting a chance to have a few minutes, okay? Be well. All right, man. Thank you very much. You bet. And, you know, learning a bit about what was happening during some of the biggest music camera made, whether it's Paul Simon, the Nick Lowe's, the Frank Sinatra catalog,

there's all sorts of things we didn't even get a chance to touch on because you got eight minutes with him, Bill, you know, that's about it. And by the way, that's also why I was a little bit ragged getting in there. He was late. So I was like, ah! You know, all right, all right, it's time, time, pooh, just made it. But anyway, there we go. That's my palate cleanser here, a little music talk there. Now then, back to the, okay, now that we've cleared the palate, we'll turn it over to you now between the craziness of the news or anything else that happens to be on your mind here too. 752 at KMED, 7705633. What's on your mind today? And I'd like to take it a little bit, at least this is just my personal interest this morning, of going back to the Trump derangement

syndrome conversation with Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD. I would love to hear from you. And If you have endured various other relatives that just, like I said, I have a relative that I've talked about before, but I brought it up with Dr. Carroll, then Bill, I'm disappointed in you. You voted for a man who is a pedophile rapist and is trying to kill my children. It's one of my relatives within my family. And I did not bring it up. I don't even start talking politics with this relative. But there it goes. And it's the way it goes every time.

and it's interesting that Dr. Carroll did talk about it being kind of a daddy issue, but what about yours? Are you dealing with? How do you work through such familial conflict, if at all? Maybe you just isolate yourself, you just cut out, or do you find a way to engage? I'd love to talk with you about that this morning because there seems to be not less, but more, TDS. Not more, not less. TDS. There we go.

There's more, not less, but more TDS. There we go. This is the Bill Myers Show. Along with Pleasant.