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We have some interesting people popping in this morning here. Well, not in here, I should say, but you know, on phone. Lashay, it could be Lashay Lemish. I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, but he's with the Shen Yun Performing Arts Group. He's their MC, but he's been a big part of exposing Communist Party of China abuse and censorship, various other things. And the Epoch Times ended up putting out a pretty interesting story the other day that there is a lot of sudden death, just people, especially young people, just dropping dead in China. And there appears to be an effort to cover up a lot of this and I wanted to talk with Lashai about that a little bit later so he's going to be coming on the program. We're going to be

cutting against my sort of native environmental sense and I'm kind of in two directions when it comes to the world of plastics. I understand that plastics are just an amazing part of what is able to keep Western civilization, frankly the whole world civilization, going. I think about all the people who completely criticize, oh, it's made with plastic, it shouldn't be. Plastics will kill us. And then I think, okay, do you really want to go back to the day in which we're having to autoclave glass syringes and sharpen needles and to reuse them and all sorts of things that people used to have to do long time ago back in the day? There are amazing, especially in the medical world, I would think, some benefits of the plastics revolution such as everything turning into

the landfill economy. You look at what goes into the typical landfill, it seems like it's an awful lot of plastics. You look at the huge islands of plastic waste from Asia that are sitting over there in the Pacific Ocean floating around, that sort of thing. And then you start wondering, okay, and then people will say, it's made with fossil fuels. All right. And there are some real problems, I think, within the environment, especially when it comes to, what do they call them, endocrine disruptors, chemicals in some of the plastics which tend to upset our hormonal balances, things like that.

Like bisphenol A, bisphenol B, there are various other bisphenols. Bisphenol of course would make plastics more flexible and so it would be in a lot of stuff like Tupperware things and plastic drinking glasses. And then, you know, people get this into their system and then there's the whole controversy of microplastics too. So I see the good and I see the bad here too. And I haven't had many people come on the program that would actually just do a full-throated defense, a defense of plastics. And then one reached out to me, Dr. Chris DeArmit, and he is a material scientist. He invested 3,000 hours of research reading

thousands of scientific articles and studies about plastics, and he wrote a book. You can even download his book for free. Now, if you want to buy it, then you have to pay for it, but you can actually download it over at PlasticsParadox.com. And I'm going to talk with him about this after 7 o'clock and maybe get a balanced look at it, well maybe a balance when I say from the other side of things. So he's going to join me at 710. Hope we can learn something because I see good and I see some problems too. And I also think that some of the plastics issues that I have would involve, you know, the Teflon. Now would Teflon be a plastic? I'll ask him

about that. Now, you know, the polyfluorocarbons that tend to be part of the flame retardant materials, you know, the things they call the forever chemicals that people are concerned about once again endocrine disruptors and Microplastics just coursing the the blood veins of the blood of of Americans everywhere. You can't escape it You know that sort of thing. So we'll get to the bottom of that or at least to get Chris is dr Chris's point of view, about an hour from now or so. There's a couple of Trump stories, actually two or three Trump stories of note here. You know, they had their big, you know, once again, they go together,

they do their press conference there, the cabinet meeting. I don't really like the cabinet meetings with all the people because it sounds like it's more designed for TV, kind of like managing the narrative. It's just my opinion. I would prefer that they not have cameras on them so they can maybe tell the boss what he needs to hear rather than what the boss wants to hear for the TV cameras. That's my concern. But still, I think it's great that we ended up signing this I think it's great that we ended up signing this rare minerals deal with Ukraine. My only concern is will this end up being a trip wire for a war with Russia at some point? I don't know.

But after some rocky early efforts, the agreement is finally reached. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson hailing the deal as a step toward a negotiated end to the war in Ukraine. And I hope that is certainly the case. That is a good one. We have the Trump administration also asking the Supreme Court to allow their prohibition on troops with gender dysphoria. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing that should matter if someone is a troop,

a member of the military, are they available for war duty? Oh, you join the military and then all of a sudden you have to become a member of the island of misfit humans and get your gender reassignment surgery at taxpayer expense, and you're not available to work either. Yeah, that scam's been going on here a little bit. And the Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to allow the prohibition on troops with gender dysphoria. You have this? For most of human history, at least at the time we've been alive, gender dysphoria was considered a mental illness. And now it's just, oh, I was just born this way. Yeah, just like, yeah, I'm sure that the child perverts are thinking the same thing. Well, I was born this way.

No, you got a problem. Okay. Now, I'm not equating the gender dysphoria with being a pervert. I'm not saying that. But I was born this way. Yeah, a lot of us are born with various problems, but it doesn't have to become the military's problem. That's the way I would look at that. Now there is one

Trump story which irritates me and I'm asking for your help if you think that my irritation is warranted or not because it's not necessarily favorable toward Donald Trump. We're told time and time again that the tariffs are going to make us rich and that it might hurt a little bit. And it's true, and I get that, and I've been talking about guardily optimistic. Given how disruptive it has been, I certainly hope that the tariff schedule will help us out. But this story about the Amazon strong-arming Bezos over at Amazon, that bugs me. I don't know if you use strong-arm Bezos, probably just called Amazon up. But

this had to do because Amazon was going to put next to the prices on certain parts of the website the cost of the tariffs. So in other words, they would break that out. And the Trump administration ended up saying that this was a political or this was an aggressive and hostile act, a political act. And I looked at this differently. I looked at this as there is a retailer who is going to tell the truth about this. I looked at it as just being the truth. This is the cost. Here's how much of that cost increase we've had to do and a lot of price increases have been going on on many of

these websites. And here's how much of it is due to the 145% tariffs or the ending of the $800 exemption for packages. You know, there are all sorts of rules. And I don't want to get off into the weeds on this. And then the White House ends up calling up Amazon and complains about this. Yeah, the president actually did call Bezos. He called Bezos the founder of Amazon and twisted his arm.

And that bothers me. I want people to tell us the truth. I want Trump to tell us the truth. And if the tariffs are so good for us, we have a right to know what part of the cost of something is a tariff and which one is not? It's the same sort of thing as when the last administration, legislature rather, I should say the last legislature, ended up putting in the corporate activity tax. Remember that? One percent on all these big companies, whether they made money or whether they didn't make

money in the state of Oregon. And you had some car dealerships, they started putting that corporate activity tax on the invoice of the cars. When you would buy a car, they would put it in there to try to let you know the truth about where the price increase came from. I didn't hear the governor back at that time saying, well, you know, I'm going to go after you guys because this is a hostile and aggressive act, a political act there. I don't know, maybe she should have.

Maybe she should have. My point is that for good or bad, if the price is going up because of a government-imposed tariff, which is a tax, shouldn't we be able to know? And should companies be pressured to not let you know? Because to me, I just look at that as censorship and we're no better than the Communist Chinese. Any thoughts on that? Am I being unrealistic? 7705633.

That really irritated me. I mean, I was just sitting there grinding my teeth when I was reading it. I didn't talk about it yesterday. And I don't like bringing up something in which I disagree with the president. I don't like that. I don't like being that way. But I'm not going to be, you know, like most of the other conservative talk show hosts, they're going to sit around there and just say, winning on everything that gets done. I look at that as a bad

move. I think it's good that we know how much the tariff costs. Now, on the other hand, that kind of goes against the malarkey or the nonsense we were told that China is going to pay the tariff, the nonsense we were told that China is going to pay the tariff or that India is going to pay the tariff. Some of it could be that way. Ultimately, we pay it. Now if we paying more for it is going to eventually help us, I'm not aware of any country that's ever taxed its own citizens into prosperity, but this is where I disagree with the Trump administration and I don't like strong arming companies to not tell the truth about where the price increase comes from. I'd love to get your call on this

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24 minutes after 6 on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. I almost could have used this as a pebble in the shoe Tuesday topic, but I was irritated when the president and the administration ended up making Amazon knuckle down and not put the cost of the tariffs on some of the items that they were going to have on their website. I looked at this as trying to hide the truth, trying to control the narrative. And I looked at that as no different than something that Joe Biden would have done.

And I really don't like saying that. I don't like saying that about my own guy. I love what the president has been doing on the border. Border enforcement, as far as I'm concerned, 100% win. I look at the battle for security, engaging in lawfare against some of these more horrendous agendas, the gender affirming care, all the other nonsenses coming out there.

I look at that as a big win. When it comes to the economics, I'm open on it. I hope it works out well, but I don't like arm-twisting from the White House to hide the truth of a cost to Americans. That's my opinion. I don't like my own guy trying to manage the narrative about the truth of a Trump policy. I don't like that. It gets me to my core. It's like the economic equivalent

of Joe Biden going up there and saying, safe and effective all the time. If you really believe that tariffs are a great boon to the American consumer and will ultimately make us rich, like you were saying in the talk about President Trump saying in the in the press conference yesterday, then you shouldn't have any problem with it being on the website in which you see how much it goes up because of a tariff, right? Shouldn't that be it in a free country? But Amazon took the political pressure, knuckled down and said, OK, we won't do that. That irritated me to my core.

It's about hiding the truth. I don't like that. Am I unrealistic or am I off base on that? I'm happy to take your call. I'm looking for your critique of me, I guess, really, maybe more so than a critique of President Trump. But I can't let that go. Hi, good morning.

This is Bill. Who's this? Hi, Bill. This is Vicki from the Applegate. Morning, Vicki. Good morning. Well, you know, I agree with you. I don't think Trump should be telling companies that they're not allowed to do it.

Well, he didn't say it was allowed. But remember, they called it a political and aggressive act is what they called it. Remember, that's what Caroline Levitt said. And the thing is putting a big tax increase on some businesses' product is also a political and aggressive act too. That's all I would just say. Now we can say we're doing it for a good purpose, but to arm twist on that, That bugs me greatly. In 2016 when he became president, there was a lot of terrorists and people were kind of freaking out back then. But we were all aware everything was going to be

a little tough until people started making deals and realizing it wasn't beneficial to them. So it wasn't a surprise when he started putting tariffs on stuff that stuff was going to go up. The only difference between 2016 and now is that they weren't telling you what the tax was, what the tariffs were when things went up back then. I would also say that it's significantly more when you're talking 145 percent, the increase in some cases, that's almost an embargo on a particular class on a country's imports. It's more of a statement. He's a businessman, not a politician. So you throw out a deal. If they don't like it,

they don't take it. Yeah, I'm not using that thing. He's a politician now after four years. Okay? Well, okay. He's a politician in the sense that he's president of the United States, but in his core, he's always been a businessman. Yeah. And that's been no secret. But I agree. I don't think he should stronghold businesses not to tell you if they want to tell you. I would just say we know we take the hurt we understand that but don't lie to me okay or don't try to hide the lie from me. I've had enough of that. I've had enough of that from federal government for a lot of years in my opinion. Amazon is putting that stuff out there is if you look at the other side of the coin

it's almost like they're trying to... like the Democrats, oh my god, look what's happening. This is how much you're paying. This is how terrible it is, you know, and we all knew it was going to be tough. Yeah. All right, all right, I get it. Hey, thanks for the call. I appreciate that. Let me go to next line here. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. It's Francine. Hi, Francine. Hi. Morning. Well, I want to congratulate you on not being a total fanboy and a Trump fanboy because there's a lot of things he does I don't care for, you know? I mean a lot. And it's not that I want Kamala in there. Don't get me wrong, all right? But it's just that...

Exactly. Exactly. I mean, you know, we have to step back a little bit and just look at things without our personal biases and stuff clouding our opinion or making us feel like, oh, is this, you know, am I overstepping with my opinion? No, we have the right to our opinions. And so do you. with my opinion? No, we have the right to our opinions and so do you. Well, I've always been concerned about the way talk radio is approaching it now. And it's just like, and I got to tell you, show after show after show is almost a total suck-up and that irritates me too, frankly. No, I know. I can't stand the suck-ups. I mean, it's like yesterday when I called and said that anybody

that is capable of driving a truck and can identify signs, whether they speak the language or not, I was not advocating for, yes, let's let all these illegal migrants come in and drive our trucks. That's not what I was talking about. I was simply making a statement that anyone with half a brain can learn to recognize symbols. That's all. Okay, fair enough. All right, I appreciate the call. Let me go to Dave here too. I want to make sure to get everybody's call in here, either berating me or saying it's okay before newsbreak. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Dave, you're on. Go ahead, give me your take. Yeah, I don't like Amazon. In fact, I won't even buy anything off Amazon. But that's the way I feel

about Amazon. But there's a store down here that breaks out all the taxes on the cash you buy. And I just think that that's a good thing to do. And by the way, a 10% to do. And by the way, a 10% sales in by wouldn't affect us at all because a lot of times they can absorb that. But that would bring in a lot of revenue. So we could get rid of income tax. So what Amazon's doing might be political, but it's all politics. You know, I think that I see that's just it. That's an interesting point but it's all politics. You know, I think that, see, that's just it. That's an interesting point. It's all political. It is all political, isn't it? Yes. And Amazon, of course, has certainly had its political biases showing. I'm not defending Amazon. Please don't take this as a

somehow, I love, you know, Bezos and the globalist tentacles everywhere. All I'm saying that... No, I feel the same way. You can choose not to buy from Amazon. Yeah, but the government is the only company you have no choice but to do business with. And I don't like it when they do strong arming to not, well, in other words, to curry political favor. I don't like that, any business. I appreciate your call. Thanks for that Dave. Let me grab a few more calls. I'm going to roll through them here before news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey Bill, am I on? This is Patrick.

Hey Patrick, go ahead. Fire away. Marvel, Patrick. I appreciate, I'll be real quick. I appreciate Francine's comments. Yes, people can recognize road signs even if they don't speak English. Here's the problem. I don't want anybody get out of a traffic stop by saying, no speaking. Go into a truck inspection at an inspection station. Oh, no speaking. And then they get out of it. That's not that doesn't work for me at all. Do you think that happens? I know you drive truck for a living. Well, you know that they try to get out of all kinds of things pretending not to speak English. And how do you know if they do or don't?

I'm with Trump on this one. Me too, absolutely. And frankly, he didn't even change the rule when it came to the commercial driver's license. He's just saying we're going to enforce it, which the last administration was not. So I'm glad. I think this is a very good move. Okay? I'm with you. I wish Trump were perfect, but we've got to be selective and honest about these things. So I'll get it going. Thank you. All right. Appreciate the call. Let me go to the next line. Hi, good morning, this is Bill. Who's this?

Brother Louie, the next one. Hey, Brother Louie, how you doing? Hey, I just wanted to stick really quickly. Yeah, you're right to do that. Francine was right. Everybody you've called since then has had really good comments and I'm appreciative. Yeah, we must be more transparent.

We need to know what's going on. Yeah, I especially feel that way about the banking system, by the way. If we knew where the money for loans really came from, we would know why all these guys are getting rich. But there'd probably be a revolution by the end of the day, I think, Brother Louis, if we really do that part. Well, yeah. Better people than me have said that.

Indeed. So you just did. I appreciate you so much. Thank you very much for the call there, Brother Louis. Let me grab one more and then we'll go back to some calls in a little bit here, okay? Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hello? I think your phone is giving you a little trouble. It might be me. Oh, it is you. Hi, good morning. It is me. Roger, how's that?

Hey, Gary and Sam. Hi, Gary. How is it any different than the little nine on the end of the 459 for fuel? That means nine-tenths of a gallon. They don't tell us what the taxes are state and federal. Well actually it is right on the, you know, it is right on the pump per gallon is what it says there. It's right in the open. What for taxes? Oh yeah. Yeah, take a look at it. You'll see that includes like 45 cents, da da da da da, split this way, yada yada yada. Now it's not included in this. Now remember, this is Amazon

on their website, in their business, having to raise prices because of the tariff imposed by the government. Not imposed by anybody else, imposed by government. And so they're raising the price and they're saying why. And I understand that just like I understood the local car dealers that would add on Kate Brown's corporate activity tax when the Democrats passed that a few years ago. That 1% tax that was being put on top of it. A lot of car dealers did that. I had no problem with telling the truth about where the price increase comes from do you yeah Kate Brown talk about taxation without representation there you go yeah

damn right Gary appreciate the call hi good morning this is Bill who's this this is Ed Bill hello Ed and I have a quick comment that I you know it's the comparison between the tariffs and the corporate activities comment that I, you know, it's the comparison between the tariffs and the corporate activities tax that I think is where we have to adjust our way of thinking because the corporate activity tax was a substitute for a sales tax basically. It was a direct attack against the left-standing businesses that we have. Okay? Now, the tariff is meant to increase the number of businesses that we have onshore.

So in other words, we're leveling the playing field, okay, so that they don't have an unfair advantage to produce a product, ship it overseas, and create a market that is actually a false market, because there's no way that we can compete with what they're doing, with their labor force, with everything else, until we level that playing field. And if we... But why would you try to hide that if this is so good? Oh, I don't think it should be hidden. That's where I agree, that it shouldn't be hidden, it should be explained. It should be explained in that way. And the truth be told, as we look at this, it affects everything. You mentioned

earlier a thing about plastics and pollution and all of these things. And people have to understand we don't basically recycle plastics here. We collect them. But the state of Oregon, the wonder of all of this recycling program is that they were loading our plastics recycling on the ships and those ships would transport it to China. Now we have people wandering the streets, needing employment, basic employment. We have all of these things economically that need to go on, but yet we're shipping everything,

including our trash, overseas. Because it's uneconomical to recycle it here. Well, then what do we have to do? We have to become competitive and make it economical. Well, raising the price on China doesn't make us competitive. Well, what I'm saying is that... You see, what I'm getting at is that our systemic...our problems with regulation, high wages, inflated currency, I think has a lot to do with some of this, too.

It absolutely does, Bill. But until we recognize the small deviations in reality that they have imposed upon us with these things, the concepts of recycling has to be a monetary disbursement that is acceptable on every level. It has to be not over cost or anything. But the reality is to hide it, to say, well, we don't want to see the recycling process. We want to ship it somewhere else. And say we have a clean environment is an absolute absurdity. We have to start looking at this at a reality-based thing. And I will agree with you there. Hey, Ed, we'll have to pick this up. All right? I just ran over

I'm glad you checked in though 639 And we're gonna be talking about China here in just a minute And the story is that China has had it has big problems big big big problems And that they're censoring that and keeping the truth from us on that too. More on that coming up The Montana Ruby marketing department is always looking for new ideas, but they're not always good. What's up? Well, I keep...

Season at the historic courthouse in downtown Jacksonville, and check us out on Facebook and Instagram. This is News Talk 1063 KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Myers show. Big problems being reported in China, most recently in Epic Times. A lot of people have been reading that. I read it and was kind of shocked at what I was looking at. And I wanted to talk with someone who has studied Communist China for many, many years, and he is the MC of the Shen Yun Performing Arts. He joined them back in 2006.

Long storied history here. Li Shai Lemish. Li Shai, it's a pleasure having you on. Good morning. Good morning. How are you? I'm doing great. Could you tell us what Shen Yun is for those who don't know at this point? It's a very famous performing arts company. It's been performing all around the world. I don't think you've been performing in Beijing recently, from what I understand. That's right. That's the one place you can't perform is China. for what I understand. That's right. That's the one place you can't perform is China.

Yeah. So, Shen Yun is based in the United States. It's the performance of classical Chinese dance and music. It's very beautiful. It's great entertainment. But beyond that, there is a mission that the company has, which is to revive traditional Chinese culture, to bring back China before communism, 5,000 years of civilization that was really brought to the brink of extinction by the Chinese Communist

Party with all its political campaigns to wipe it out. And so here is Shen Yun saying, let's bring back these traditions, let's show the stories and the legends, and more importantly, the virtues that are behind them. And those are universal, loyalty, integrity, compassion, faith. And so the performance really resonates with people wherever we go, and it's beautiful. And like you said, Beijing, the Chinese Communist Party really doesn't like it. It doesn't like that it doesn't have a monopoly on Chinese culture.

It doesn't like that we're bringing back the heritage that it works so hard to destroy. And it doesn't like that we talk about atrocities happening in China today as part of the performance, the persecution of Falun Gong and the courage of the resistance to the persecution. So for those reasons the CCP has been trying to stop us this entire time. Very interesting. I know that Epic Times writes about you, about your performing arts group quite often, and I've read a lot of great reviews on this too. I'd like to find out more. What I'm kind of curious about

though, it does appear that Epic Times is virulently, and I'm saying this admirably though, it's virulently anti-communist and they've made a big deal about this I think ever since the founding of this and so I can understand why you would all find common cause, you know, in this. But here is what I'm kind of curious about. When they report the other day that there seems to be a whole lot of sudden young death going on in China and there's a lot of censorship going on, what do you know? What can you be, have you been able to find out or ferret out maybe from contacts you still have there?

Well, the FHT has a strong and long history of reporting on these kinds of things. You go back to stars in 2003 in China and Hong Kong. That was when the FHT really first made its name internationally reporting on something, a pandemic that was not being reported around the world and the extent of the cover-up and in fact during was not being reported around the world and the extent of the cover-up and in fact during What we now call COVID which we know is what the CCP wanted us to call us call it and made the WHO made us Use that term The Epoch Times was really the first to talk about the scale of what was happening in China and many of its journalists got the platform Because of it for things that we now know our facts for what had happened And so what we're seeing coming out of China now, and it's all anecdotal because the CCP

has always been covering up the extent of the pandemics and various atrocities and disasters, is that first of all, there are entire towns that are empty. These ghost cities, and there's nobody on the street. There's a bunch of videos on YouTube in Chinese, but some in English too saying, where did everybody go? And there are big cities that were bustling before, just a couple years ago. And then now there are reports of people in their 50s, but also 40s and 30s just suddenly dying,

going to sleep and just that's it. And often they think that it may have to do with the Chinese vaccines that everyone was made to take. The COVID vaccine was made in China. They were not allowed to use the international ones. And it's very strange. And they're saying the funeral homes and the crematoriums, everything is backed up. You got to wait for a long time even to get in. And it seems to be coming from all over China. So we really don't know to this day, how many people actually died from COVID in China. They were, they

had a lockdown for almost three years there. And then when they let people out, they just took everybody out. And of course, we know that they sent people from Wuhan all over the world at the time. And so there's estimates well into the millions, many, many millions. We still don't know how many. We'll know eventually, I'm assuming, but right now they're covering it up. Yeah, I wonder how long it'll take before we know the truth. Interesting. So in China, if I recall correctly, they had what was called Sinovacs, isn't that what

they received? Yep. Okay. That's right. Yeah. And of course, there's all kinds of corruption issues and we don't know what exactly they were? Okay. That's right. Yeah. And of course, there's all kinds of corruption issues, and we don't know what exactly they were being given. And it's just, this is what happens when you have a regime that controls everything, including the information about everything,

and does not allow international access, does not allow free information or freedom of any significant kind, as through the challenges the Chinese Communist Party. That's what we're experiencing with Shen Yun. That's what we're seeing with transnational repression is how a lot of this stuff is being called now, which is really the CCP exporting its repression to the United States. And we're seeing this not just through the major issues like fentanyl and of course the pandemic, but also with things like spies, R&D, theft of intellectual property. And we're seeing this with Shen Yun with people trying to sabotage our vehicles,

trying to pressure theaters to cancel our shows, insular trading media, trying to manipulate social media influencers, getting death threats and on and on and on. I documented about 150 of these cases, and those are just the ones that I know about. We're kind of like a test case because, you know, if they can try to stop Shen Yun, an American performing arts company, with American citizens based in New York, a registered non-profit organization that represents in many ways American values, if they can try to take us down, they could

go after anybody in America, any political entity, any individual, any organization, any group. Leeshai, whatever happened to the stories we were reading about it? It kind of fell between the cracks after it kind of like was reported and then went away about Chinese agents essentially functioning as policemen in the United States, I recall in New York. It appeared to be about keeping the dissidents in check in the United States, I recall in New York, and it appeared to be about keeping the dissidents in check in the United States. In other words, you behave yourself here, otherwise maybe your family's in real big

trouble over in China. Whatever happened to that? Yeah, the audacity of a foreign regime to install police stations and operate its own so-called law enforcement in another country, which is, of course, never been a legal system. Yeah, so this is part of what was called the Fox Hunt campaign, which was basically the CCP's attempt to silence any sort of dissent, including what we might not even consider dissent in America.

We just consider it pre-expression. And what they would do is they would get the Chinese Americans, sometimes citizens even, and they would say, listen, you have family back in China. You wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them. Would you? We know what you're doing. Come on back with us to China.

We don't want you out here. And a lot of people were expatriated. Some of, most of them probably voluntarily, so to speak, under pressure, and some not. And so they had these police stations. I read there were over a hundred of them throughout the country country and they have a ton of agents doing these things. We had two agents that were arrested in a sting operation by the FBI trying, what they were trying to do is trying to revoke our nonprofit status. They were trying to bribe an individual that they thought was an IRS official, but turned

out was an FBI undercover and they were arrested. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. We don't know how many spies there are. And also like the concept of a Chinese, a CCP spy is not kind of this James Bond, you know, kind of, you know, super trained individual. They just, they're very good at activating anybody with ties back to China with a variety of characteristics. And that's what where it becomes really problematic because you have a lot of law abiding and

really good citizens who are ethnic Chinese, but the CCP is constantly trying to manipulate them to do things. And so I think what we try to do with Shen Yun is, because this can get into a very slippery slope of race profiling and things like that. What we do is, where most of our performers are ethnic Chinese and they're mostly Americans, but from all over the world, is we show China before communism. And so there's a clear separation between the concept of the Chinese Communist Party and China, whereas Chinese culture, Chinese people,

and these are two different concepts and the CCP is constantly trying to conflict them and make people confused about it. But if you criticize the Chinese Communist Party, they're anti-Chinese and even racist. Alicia, I'm wondering if your message falls on more deaf ears out on the West Coast. And I'll bring this up why. I recall even people who I respected of politicians, many politicians, some of them who are no longer with us any longer, were making such a huge deal about getting Oregon trade, the state of Oregon trading with Communist China back then. And everyone was going on junkets, they still talk about this, oh, we're going to get the deal, they're going to buy our pears, they're going to buy our fruits, they're going to buy this, and then we're going to trade, and everybody's going to be happy.

And I always, it was really, it didn't feel right. Something felt off, you know, about all of it. And were we all being sold to build the goods back then, when you were in the process, especially over the last 15 to 20 years, I'd say? Gosh, I remember when I was back in college, it was over two decades ago out in California. That was the narrative at the time. This was, you know, trying to enter the WTO and it was before the Beijing Olympics. And they were saying, if we just have more interaction and just trade more, they will want to have the freedom that

we have and the openness of all just get along. And that doesn't seem to be the case. The CCP is very good at manipulating and co-opting. And some of these people from all over the world who went to China on these junkets were trapped. They were honey trapped. Some of them talked about being drugged and being put in compromising positions with a prostitute and being videoed. And then they have something on them. They go back to the United States with their families and their careers, and they have to do with the CCP won.

Others were just flat out bribes, and others were just given these Potemkin village kind of scores, and we're so impressed by the prospect of making money there. And so we've seen over time, especially since Xi Jinping came to power, is that this dream is really not gonna happen. China has not opened up and not become a peaceful and helpful international partner.

And that's because of the CCP. It's not because of the Chinese people. The Chinese people have a long history of being peace-loving people, but then the CCP comes along and kills 80 million of them, and now it's trying to export its oppression to the world. So I think certainly, I think the world is waking up more, to answer your question. I think there's still people who are still holding on

to this illusion and some of them may have been co-opted in one way or another, but since what happened with COVID, since what happened with Hong Kong, we know what's happening to the Uyghurs, we've heard of what's happening to Falun Gong practitioners for 25 years and we see all the spies and all the news. I think there's even going back a couple of administrations to that period around 2019, 2020, there's much more clarity on what the level of threat that the CCP presents to the world.

Is the, now I know you may not necessarily promote yourself as a trade expert, but I think you may know what really happens. President Trump, of course, is really, I think what's really the tariff, the tariffing has been about, is trying to put China under great pressure. Could this really be what's going on? Maybe putting pressure on the regime to the point where they could crack? I mean, is that even a possibility? I'm reading about how 45% fewer ships coming out of China, factories closing, and people are getting pretty upset pretty quickly, is what I've been reading in other sources. Yeah, I mean, there are a lot of cracks in the system there already.

First of all, Xi Jinping has really gutted the upper echelon of the Communist Party so there's no threat to him, but then there's also no way to succeed. At the same time, you know, you have a major demographics issue of an aging population, again, thanks to the CCP's one child policy and economic factors. And there's big economic questions and environmental issues. And it's really not clear, but I'll tell you that my Chinese friends that I've talked to about this, who follow this even more than I do, they say they're very optimistic long

term. They believe China is going to move in a better direction after the Chinese Communist Party is gone. How long that takes, you know, hopefully we see it in our lifetime. I think a lot of it is going to be a cultural shift with people realizing that this is something parasitical that latched on, that it's actually a Soviet Union export and not really something native to Chinese culture. And when they realize that, you actually have a movement already of hundreds of millions of people who've declared online and in various platforms that they want to quit the CCP. That is, they renounce their affiliation with the Chinese Communist Party, be it the party

itself as party members or their youth organizations, like the Young Pioneers know these kinds of groups that they have to sign into in school. And so they're already taking this major stance of publicly saying, often with the real name, we're quitting this. We don't want to go down in history but the Chinese Communist Party, we know it's going to go down. And you have a lot of top officials hiding their money internationally, getting passports, sending their kids to get to study abroad and get citizenship. They know it's a sinking ship. The question is how long and how messy is it going to be? That's a fascinating statement to hear from you. I'm wondering, Gatshku, we'd be on the verge of another 1989-style situation, but hey, we'll have to find out. Thank you so much for sharing some thoughts about this. I know the reporting in the epic times about the

Great increase in death. It's not being reported that Certainly has given me pause and a lot of other people and thanks for sharing us some of your thoughts about this Where can people go to find out more about your group Shen Yun? Absolutely. Well, thank you for having me the the website is Shen Yun comm shdnyun.com We have about two weeks of tour left, and then we have a new tour starting in December. All right. Li Shai, thank you so much.

Great talking with you this morning. Thank you. Be well. Bye-bye. Li Shai Lemish from the Shen Yun Performing Arts. He's the MC there. It is 6.58 at KMED, 99.3 KPXG. The Outdoor Report is every Friday morning

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The Bill Myers Show is on. News Talk 1063 KMED. KMED at KMED HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Dr. Chris DeGarment is going to join me in about 10 minutes or so. And he's the other side he has a book out you can actually download it for free shattering the plastics illusion and there's a lot of people that are a lot of stuff on the mind always talking about the problems with plastics I think there are some and we'll talk about this honestly with the good doctor he's a material a materials specialist so that's his his line science. But we'll talk with him about that in a few minutes. Wild Sam and Steve is here. He, of course, was in the material of lumber back in the day, along with a lot of lulled into acquiescence, I guess, maybe is the right word, by the strategy of the Communist Party.

They will take over whatever they want to take over by manipulating the margins that a business in this country has. And they do it with their currencies, partially. They do other things also. Yeah, they have a peg to the US dollar, but they have a different dollar that they use for internal or a different currency for internal trade. That's absolutely the deal. How can you compete with a 10% difference in hard costs? And that's how they do it with their currencies, because the internal currency, the yuan, and the... Well, I forget which way it goes, but the yen and the yuan, if you're in China, you're

competing in an economy that deals in that currency. And then the Chinese government takes 10% off of whatever goes out of the country. And if it comes into the country, it amounts to 20%. They just make the margins impossible. And what Trump is trying to do, if there's a shortage of something, we need people to say, hey, there's an opportunity here. The real cost, including the tariffs, is what the cost would be without the Chinese government manipulating. Yeah. My concern is that for some industries here, we have disrupted supply chains, but we

don't have anything to replace it with. and it will take years to replace that. That's all. Well, possibly. There are things that we can do now that we could never do before, like 3D printing, and the possibility with manufacturing going to CNC manufacturing and 3D printing and that sort of thing means that we can put things back on better online pretty quickly. It is going to take some time and if you were going to look for a place to invest it would be in in building things because we're going to build a bunch of plants and

we're talking hundreds of different plants that construction business is going to go wild and the transition period between when we can find either alternative sources throughout the world or get US stuff going is going to be a tough period of time but I don't think it's going to be the three or four or five years that people are talking about. All right, well we'll find out. I hope you're right about that. Steve, thank you for the call. And since it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, the Palette Cleanser is Crazy Gene. Hello Gene. Hey, I'm here back again.

Yes, you are. Yeah, Johnson wanted to talk about something I've been watching on YouTube. What's that? And it's some kind of a talent show or a magic show. And there are tens of thousands of people there in the audience. I see them. And they're seeing this stuff. But these guys put elephants, lions, tigers.

I mean, every kind of an animal you can take up on the screen, they have 15-foot tall women walking around. And I mean, it looked pretty real. And I wondered, how do they do this? I thought it was with holograms at first, but it's not, it's some kind of mass hypnosis. Well, you think it couldn't be something that's just literally created by AI? I mean, that's the kind of world that we're entering now, Gene, in which a

video or a picture doesn't mean anything to an extent unless you're there in front of the person. Like they say, they have a large audience watching the same thing I watch on TV. It can't be that because there's real people there in the audience seeing this. I don't have an answer for it. Send me a link to that if you could. All right email bill at Bill Myers show.com Thanks, Jean and stay crazy my friend. It's five minutes after seven now We say crazy in a you know, not a literal thing. We say this affectionately anytime we have a nickname It's it's an affectionate nickname. All right. All right Coming up town hall news. We will catch up on a few things.

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