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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Such an interesting time in Southern Oregon and over in Salem where you can't question the semi-porno or really explicit sexual sordid books being put in school libraries. You can't do that. And if you read those books in front of the state legislators in charge of doing this,

people get really upset. It is just astounding to me. Joining me right now is Representative Dwayne Younger. Dwayne, it's great to have you back on. We do find ourselves in interesting times in which anybody bringing up the corruption of our public school systems and book challenges and everything else, that they're the problem and not the smuttiness in the books themselves and the lack of the ability to do anything about it. Would that be a fair assessment where we find ourselves right now? Welcome back to the show. Yes, Bill. Thanks for having me on. Yes, it's like one of my speeches I've given so far this year,

clown world. You know, this is ridiculous. A place on the floor where you're supposed to have debate and speak, your constituents and your beliefs on the floor are now being challenged that I am causing a hostile work environment. Not only in the book though, also because I did a remonstrance for $5.6 million spent on tampons in boys bathrooms. I never even talked about anything.

I just said, you know, so that's the second part of the one. So yes, you're not allowed to have a difference of opinion on the state floor here. So vigorous debate until you go against the, well, apparently the people who own the state legislature, which must be the island of misfit humans as I've nicknamed them. I don't know. Yes, you know, free speech is only free for one side. Ah, okay. Well, this is interesting because, you know, I'm reading in the statesmen urinal and various other places and of course the headline scream, Oregon lawmaker accused of creating hostile work environment. What

were you doing? Were you grabbing people's bottoms or something like that and sexually harassing? Doing all sorts of things? It's just about reading this on the state floor. That's all this is about, talking about this in your remonstrances. Yeah, yeah. We've got to remember that I was stopped in the speech, and I brought my speech up to the speaker's desk, where all the little big wigs from both sides go

up there and they looked at the speech and they continued to allow me to read it. They'd allowed me to read it and then they were put order again by our own side saying this is not appropriate. And then they took a 15-minute break to call all the Democrats back to the floor to discuss this. And then come back and say, overruled, can you please continue, but please skip the rest of the book reading. You know, you can make the call. Okay, now what are the Democrats in Salem so afraid of with this book?

What's so wrong with this? Huh? They love this book apparently because they want to do everything to make sure that this book is in as many high schools and junior highs as possible, I guess. You can't make this up, Bill. This is the stuff that most parents are saying, well, it's not appropriate for children. We need to have it removed. It's not a, we don't need to, it's even hard for me to talk about it. I know. We don't need to... in the schools, this is inappropriate. This is more for...

we're not saying these books can't be banned in the United States. We're saying they shouldn't be in a school. Yeah, these are choices which are made to purchase using taxpayer money, and we can decide as adults that we don't think that the book The Haters as an example or some of the other ones with just like I said nasty sex scenes and such that we can't describe on the radio without getting in trouble and you but you there you are trying to bring attention to this and stop this and they want to stop you instead so it's this is it is clown work world it really is Now the question is though, where does the

hostile work environment come in? Because I know that the, and of course you know how much I love equity. You know the term legislative equity of course means that somebody else has way more power than they should. But there is a legislative equity group or something like that is now going to investigate. So what happens in this investigation? What's the story? Because to me it's like you have a First Amendment right to be able to bring to the floor the crap that the opposite party is embracing and wishes in the schools. And you wouldn't be representing your people if you didn't, if you weren't able to.

So please, help me understand this, this clown world you work in. Yeah, so I guess the complaint from the, you know, the document I'm giving was that this staffer, there's two different complaints from two different people. The first one was that this staffer had to sit on the floor and listen to this unwelcome, unsolicited stuff in the book and created a hostile work group because they could not leave. Okay? The second one... Okay, I mean, how tough are these legislative? What are they are they just like little jelly amoebas that are you know? They can't handle listening to the truthful aspect of what's being put in government school systems. What's going on here? Look Dwayne help me Again it proves my point that the book should not be in the library. That is the whole point and yes

the book should not be in the library. That is the whole point. And yes, I'm not disagreeing the book is not appropriate. It's not, and I warned everybody it wasn't appropriate before I read it, before I started to read the part. I can't explain why they would think, it proves my point that these type of books, parents should have the right to challenge them and be removed from the schools.

And it's not about, this book has nothing to do with some protective class and that's what the other side always wants to talk about is protective class I don't think we care what who wrote the book who the author is if it's inappropriate it's inappropriate that's and if parents want to buy the haters for their kid they're certainly welcome to do so they can do this this is do you take taxpayer money and promote this and put this in the library for all the kids? We are adults. We're supposed to make proper choices for children. That's why they're children and we're supposedly adults, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. The other one, the other, let me just talk about the other one. The other one

talks about the book and also my comments towards LGBTQ, which I don't feel like I went into any detail. I just said that it's inappropriate to put tampons in a male's bathroom. That's inappropriate. God created man and women. That is my biblical beliefs. Am I not allowed to have biblical beliefs? Am I constituents not allowed to have biblical beliefs? Not in Oregon, apparently, from the looks of it, if the Legislative Equity Council has its way with you, I guess. Yeah, so now they, you know, they file these complaints under what's called a Rule 27. The Rule 27, which is then the Equity Officer opens an investigation and then they sent it to an investigator.

I sent a response talking about my First Amendment rights and my biblical beliefs and stuff like that that we've already talked about. Well, they will probably file another complaint because you brought up biblical beliefs and I'm sure someone is crawling on, just curled up in a field position on the floor. This is only half kidding, but still probably fucking their thumb I'm just really get down to it. Yeah ridiculous. This is so and as of Friday I got an email from that investigation company that we're spending tax dollars on which all this is video recording I remember this is all video recorded on the floor of the house. It's not hidden.

It's not like I did something he said, she said. It's all there. You don't need to talk to me about it. So I'm not gonna talk to them. They sent me an email actually this morning at five, asking me for our interview. Our interview about what? What am I gonna be interviewed about?

Yeah, because here's the video. I said it, it's out there, it's recorded. Anybody can watch it, right? If they wanted to. So what's there to investigate? This is public information. It's on the floor. It's recorded. It is not, you know, censored in any type of way. And whether you agree with it or not, Representative Youngcrime, because I know there may be some people people don't like your point of view on this one. That's okay. That's perfectly alright. They can dislike it and you can like it and other people can like or dislike it as they wish. This is a public process. This is what public debate is supposed to be about. This is what our government, this is what our country is supposed to be

about, vigorous debate on something. The founding fathers said, James Madison, all the founding fathers said, this is public debate. This is what makes the United States, what's supposed to make the United States so great is the freedom to have public debate and disagreements on subjects that might be uncomfortable, that we might disagree on, to have this debate. What other place am I supposed to have this debate within the Capitol on the House floor? That's what I'm supposed to have.

Especially when you have Democrats and Republicans arguing and voting on legislation which would strip the ability of local school boards to deal with any of these books. Isn't that right? Isn't that what happened? That's what they're trying to, they're trying to have a government top down, on the top, tells the schools what they should be doing, how to do it, how the school board should do it, that parents cannot fight back because of their disagreement. Now I'll agree with the book, this part of the book thing. They said the books should not be protested or pulled out there because of a protective class.

Well that's already a law. You can't go to the book and say, well this book was written by someone that's an LGBT or they're black. Yeah, it's written by LGBTQ, they're black, whatever it is, we don't like it, person of color, we hate it because they're person. No, they wanted out of the school because it's a smutty book. That's why they want it out, you know? Yeah. I don't care who the author is. I care if the material is appropriate, age-appropriate. That's all that matters. I don't care. I guarantee most

of us don't even know who the authors are in most books, you know, unless we're the favorite author or whatever. And some books have ghost writers and all kinds of those things. It's all going to be around the material is the material appropriate, they're just trying to hide this. And they don't want us to talk about it. And they're going to pass this. Actually, I think Wednesday, they're going to pass they already passed the other Senate, it's gone to the house. I talked about it on last Wednesday. So they're going to strip boards of the ability to

keep the smut out of the schools then? Is that what they're passing, what this bill does? Yeah, and all the protests are saying it's because of LGBTQ stuff. Honestly, then stop writing inappropriate stuff. I don't really care if... You know, I don't know what it is about being LGBTQ that decides they got to write smutty sex scenes involving kids in LGBTQ themes. What is it, you know, but you're not supposed to bring up the term groomer, right? You're never supposed to do that, right? They're trying to make this stuff that's like, it's normalizing this behavior. And people like myself and

people that have the same kind of values, I assume you and I do, they say, well, this is not normal behavior. This is something you would go down to the adult bookstore at the South exit. Well, I'll tell you what here, State Representative Duane Younger with me. What comes next if we decided that LGBTQ themed sex scenes need to be promoted and just available in the school libraries at taxpayer expense? What is next? Are we gonna have the Democrats trying to push

minor attracted persons? That's how they've termed perverts now and pedophiles. Is this just going to be something that is going to be normalized? And besides, kids need to read about this kind of stuff, after all. They need to understand. And they need to be able to know more, and taxpayers need to pay. I mean, I'm engaging in a bit of hyperbole, but I can't imagine them not agreeing to this kind of stuff.

What are you thinking? The slippery slope argument, so to speak. It's a very slippery slope. What they're doing, what they don't understand is, is someone's going to write a book, it's going to be biblical, and you're not going to be able to defend that. You're not going to be able to take it out of there because it's protected. You know what I'm saying? Maybe it's a way off shoot of some biblical belief, but you won't be able to challenge it because it's protected under their new law, their Senate Bill 1098. There could be the extreme the other way. This is a very slippery slope here when you start doing stuff like this. I think that our local school board is smart enough, and I believe in them even though

I don't sometimes have problems with them, they can figure out a process that's fair, you know what I'm saying, and go through these books. And I know this book is actually going through a process, you know, I don't agree with it, but in the Three River School District, I believe it was it, it was looked at by this panel and then it moves to the next panel and at some point the Three River School Board will make a decision on this book. I think that is what should happen. I don't think the state should be telling us everything we should be doing in Josephine

County or Jackson County or even, you know, Klamath County or whatever it is. I think we vote in smart people. We're going to have an election to put people on the school board to make good decisions. Yeah, what's the point of having school board elections if they have to do what essentially smutty people in Salem tell them to do? Exactly. Why do we have school boards? Why do we have, you know, city councils and commissioners? If the state's just going to tell them what to do, why are we having anybody that we want locally in charge and for us to debate those locally but no we're gonna have Salem, some bureaucrat in Salem make the decision. Now the bureaucrats not elected

it's appointed by the governor so the you know the governor will make the decision on what should be done for Josephine County or Jackson County or Klamath County. Yeah yes we'll decide what is smutty and nothing is smutty. So you better not ban anything, school board. All right, now here's the deal. You have the right enemies, Representative Younger. Is there anything we, the people, can do to support you and register complaints with the state complaining about what you're doing? I mean, this is certainly, it's almost like it's an internal slap suit of sorts, right? You know, it's a strategic lawsuit against public process because you're doing something to raise the issue with the public and anything.

You can talk about the quorum all you want, but you are not talking about this just for the fun of talking about smutty school books, you know, in there. You are bringing this up for a point, you know, to make a point on the public process. What can we do to defend you? Is there anything? At this point I don't think there's anything to defend me. I think, I think as a Republican caucus we know what's going on. We've had a discussion about this. You know, I brought it up to everybody. Not everybody knew about it till last week, even though I knew about it and some other people knew about it.

The problem is this is going to go to the investigation. You're going to do a report, and then the report's going to go to the conduct committee. Now, the conduct committee has been up to two Republicans and two Democrats. I'm assuming you know where that's going to go. It's going to be a waste of time. We're spending money on a waste of investigation. I ask people this. please continue to support me. I'm going to continue on the floor and speak about very hard things that maybe others are

afraid to stand up and stay because they might get backlash or the Democrats are going to try to do things to them. Now I was, I have been probably objected, point of order, several times, even the last Thursday, about a speech on the floor. And that speech on the floor had nothing to do with, well, it does always have to do with somebody, but they object to me. They think I'm accusing people. Well, I think they're guilty of their own things.

So I just feel like, can you support me? I'm going people. Well, I think they're guilty of their own things. So I just feel like you can support me I'm gonna say things today. I'm gonna talk about more homeless stuff HB 315 on the floor that's what I'm gonna do the gatekeepers Tina Kotech and You know Pam Marsh that is in charge of these committees will now not allow Discussions to happen over situ. We want to deal with this homeless problem. We are tired of it. Look at Joseph McKenna, we're just having problems. But Democrats do not want us to even have a discussion.

Who pays the taxes? Not the NGOs, or going into paying the taxes. I will continue to bring up these issues. I will talk about the drugs. I will talk about the illegals If you listen to the Democrats, I put all these videos out there. They're defending Obreggo Garcia like he's a poor guy and now we know he's you know, he's a wife-beater He's a smuggler. That's what Democrats care about. Oh, no, no, no. He's a Maryland man a Maryland father care about. Oh no no no he's a Maryland man, a Maryland father. Come on. They get on the floor and talk about this poor guy and so then I have to turn around and point out their hypocrisy about

stupid they sound for defending you know a couple weeks ago was 4600 all nationals were arrested in Portland for selling fentanyl and stuff. and then two days later. There was two more guys I think they're MS 13 gangbangers from New York in Portland arrested So these are all illegal people that our state is harboring and protecting So I continue to speak about these things on the floor and point out just the stupidity of this state. You know that there was an article, do you ever read John Rappaport? I don't know if you have time to read many bloggers out there. No, I didn't read it. John Rappaport, I'll just let you know, and there's a bit of a

scatological term brought up in his latest post on Substack. He's a journalist of some interesting, you know, he has an interesting point of view. And he talks about how Trump could win the midterms in 2026 by a mile. And he shares a link to an article in a video, a father, and this is going right down to what you were talking about on the floor

of the house a few weeks ago. There's a link to an article in a video, a dad is telling a teacher to stop sharing a book with his child in class. And the book explains how to use a butt plug. Okay? All right? And the father and the teacher are having an argument. And what John Rappaport is mentioning,

perhaps a month or so before the 2026 midterms, have a team send out a message to every Democrat running for election in the House and Senate. And we can do this in the state of Oregon too, and ask them to reply to the question, do you support a teacher showing young students how to use a butt plug, yes or no? And refusing to answer means you do support the teacher. This is the world we are in right now, state representative Younger. I'm going to forward that on to you because something tells me that this is the earth, this is the hill that needs to be fought on at this point. It's obvious that the state

legislature is in the process of removing the ability to fight. Parents aren't going to handle this very well. I'm just going to assure you of that. Okay. Yes, I appreciate it. You know, I'm hoping, and I am getting more Republicans standing up on the floor and speaking about hard things. And I think since I've started talking, I've getting, I've gotten a lot more support by my caucus.

Not everybody, but you, but some people really have a hard time talking about some of the stuff. It's really hard for them. But I do have more people speaking up, and we need to expose them. If you really want to take back Oregon, you need to expose the fraud, the abuse, and everything that the Democrats are doing to people. And people just don't believe that it's going on in public schools. I think they don't want to believe because if they... It's everything. Because if they believe, then they just can't sit around and do nothing

about this here, Dwayne. And you are doing your best to do something about this by letting people know. It's like once you see what they're doing, you can't unsee this, okay? Yeah, and it's just not schools. It's everything in Oregon they're doing. It's everything from schools to colleges to spending money on having transgender surgery paid by Medicaid in Oregon on children. The policies continue to go and go and go. I wanted to ask you about this because from what I understand, the way it's been laid out to me is that Congressman Cliff Bantz has been talking with former Governor John

Kitzhaber and John Kitzhaber, former governor, of course, former, you know, doctor too, he does for his other failings though, he knows how to add and subtract, right? And there are big cuts coming on Oregon. There are cuts coming to Oregon Health Plan because there's just no choice. Isn't that really what we're going to be doing here in the next... I'm not talking about we Republicans, I'm talking about the legislature is going to have to deal with this. Would you agree or not? I definitely agree. Oregon is basically, I think, number, or one or two on the most use of Medicaid. They've expanded Medicaid for so many things.

I think we talked about this before on your show. And there is abuses happening. I spoke with, you know, Pam Bondi's group in Department of Justice, I think it was last Monday to Monday before, about the abuses of OHSU and stuff happening with Medicaid, the Medicaid dollars. So they are aware, we are giving them information. My office is helping with a lot of investigations of bringing information to, and I've sent some of those letters out as press releases, to the Trump administration.

I wish it would go faster, but we know that doesn't happen. We were continuing to, things happened in schools. We were sending to whatever department it is in the federal side, my office, with the help of some other Republicans, usually, you know, Representative Dill and some of the other ones are coming alongside me and we're working as a team to expose the abuses from the state. So when the Democrats get up and say, well, we're losing money a team to expose the abuses from the state. So when the Democrats get up and say, well, we're losing money, and I would say, well, stop breaking the law, the federal law, and then you'll probably get your federal grants.

But they don't care. They want to sell it that Trump is the bad guy. And I would say, well, stop discriminating. Stop doing DEI. Stop putting boys and girls sports. This is the stuff that I might not get a bill passed here with, you know, that's my bill started. Well, the only bills that can be passed in this, uh, in this legislature

are ones that Democrats like. Okay. Exactly. That's the reality. And so the people put me here to speak, I have a voice and I have a vote. And that's what I me here to speak. I have a voice and I have a vote and that's what I'm gonna do here. I'm gonna speak about it and I'm gonna vote against this stuff. That's the one thing, that's the two things they can't take away from me that well, they're trying to get my voice taken away,

but I'm gonna get to dispose them. The people of Josephine County put me here to work hard to protect them and that's what I'm trying to do is work hard to protect their rights on both sides. And so just to wrap up here, Representative Younger, there's nothing we can do at this point to influence this investigation. You're just going to have to go through the investigation, but then it ends up being decided by two Republicans and two Democrats. What could be punished? What kind of punish could be meted out to you? They can they can sanction me they can try to find me That's it really I honestly and have a hard time if anything's gonna happen now you gotta remember this They try to do the same thing last year to represent rescue

They try to silence him on a political view that he had on a podcast about his book Christian values Uh-huh. So this is their way of weaponizing rule 27. We've tried to get this changed, but the Democrats, of course, control all the cards. And so they're going to use it to silence Republicans. I don't think we'll wait to see when there is a conduct committee actual. at that point then people I guess could write in. Okay so we're going to hold fire for the time being here. Keep us in the room on this all right thank you. Okay thank you Bill. State Representative Dwayne Younger

736 at KMED. Now's the time to celebrate mom at Grange Co-op or Making Mother's Learn more at markpatrickseminars.com Hi I'm Matt Stone owner of Stone Heating and Air and I'm on 106.3 KMED. If Mark Patrick offered to stop drinking coffee I don't think I'd go I love my coffee. Nice and black Peruvian. Cost has been going up though but that's a different issue. It's an addiction I love. It's 18 before 8. Did we have Shane Jenkins? Hey Shane, how are you doing this morning? Welcome to the show. I'm doing well. Thank you for having me.

All right. Are you addicted to it? Yes, I am. I don't know if you are or not. Absolutely. Now you're the executive director of Stan in the Gap and you're a former J6er. I wanted to talk with you about some interesting developments here as of late. What is Stand in the Gap all about? Give me the website and tell me what you are doing now that you are out of Fed Gulag, Gulag Fed right now.

What do you think? Yes sir. Stand in the Gap, we'll go to standinthegap.foundation is the website. But what we're doing, we have a two-pronged attack right now. The pending event right now is we're helping January 6thers because just like me, I was released from prison 1 a.m. January 21st. We've all been given our freedom. Some people had their senses commuted, but we're all out of prison or jail.

And so, you know, like me, 46 and a half months prior to that, I was kidnapped by the FBI and thrown in prison. And you don't get a chance to close your bank account. You don't get a chance to pay off your credit card balance. So a lot of us defaulted mortgages, car notes, credit cards, whatever it was, bank accounts. And so we're working on it. In essence, everything is destroyed under the guise of the insurrection. Right, absolutely.

You guys trying to overthrow the government with pepper spray and sticks or whatever, you know? So we're working on credit repair for the guys and then we're also working because the medical treatment and dental treatment is absolutely horrible in the DC jail and in the federal prison system. So we're working on providing health care for January 6thers. So credit repair, health care.

And then the third thing is we're doing a thing called Mission Memory Maker, which is a three-to-five-day vacation. We're starting with the guys who did the most time, like a thousand days or more, in jail. And we're fully funding a three-to-five-day vacation for them and their families, whether it's Uber, airfare, resorts, meals, just so there's no financial burden on them and so they can get away with their wives and children or husbands and children, whatever the case may be, and just reestablish those familial bonds because they've been

separated for so long. And it is, Jan Sixer or non-Jan Sixer, it is difficult to transition from prison back into society and get back into those roles and relationships and with your children and loved ones and so we want them to have no burden and so on, raise some money to fund those vacations. All right, I wanted to ask Shane, are you aware of how many, I don't know if you have a number or not, how many marriages were lost maybe? I don't know if you know, over the J6 years in which people get thrown in and then the

families kind of desert them. Is that something common or did families in some ways get together and tighten up and say, hey, this is unjust? What do you think? The sad thing was that there was probably about the guys that I know of, and I did about 30 months in the DC jail. I know about three men who went through divorces while we were in the DC jail, but since we've been released, I know about six to seven men who are currently going through a divorce. And so it has been, you know, some of the

wives waited and stood by them as long as they could, but it was, you know, the government came to crush us and it came in many different forms and in separation and been taking us. I'm from Houston, Texas. They took me to DC Jail. It's a thousand miles away from home for my kids and everybody that cares about me. So yeah, so much for getting visited in other words, right? Oh, well, and not to mention the fact that the DC Jail us visits for two years while we were in the DC jail. So there was multiple facets of the tyranny that was going on in relation to the situation that we found

ourselves in. It was very difficult and it's trying and it's sad and it breaks my heart to see these men and women going through this hardship. That's why I'm passionate about fighting for them and getting their lives back together. Is there any legal remedy for what would appear to be, at least from my reading of the Constitution and due process, that visitation should have never been denied? I mean, is there any way to go after this legally, or is it all just kind of like shut up go away take your pardon and and move along what do you think I believe the remedy is called a federal tort claim and so we we are I have our ever tamed Mark McCloskey and

Peter Tickton and Sidney Powell and there's many many January 6ers are getting these tort claims because not only did they deny us visits for two years we we were denied haircuts for a year, fingernail clippers for a year, we were denied religious services for two years. Meanwhile, because we're Christians, meanwhile the Muslims were able to go to the mosque and able to use a religious exemption to deny the vaccines, which they denied the Christians in the January 6 pod were not allowed to say we had a religious exemption for the vaccine. So they used the vaccine really to keep us from doing anything because we wouldn't take the vaccine. And so yeah, I mean, you have to remedy it. It's on the DC Jail, the federal marshals, the DOJ,

the FBI, like everybody involved that played a role in what they did to us is going to be held accountable. I pray. All right. Shane Jenkins keeps in the room on this one. Shane Jenkins is the executive director of Stand in the Gap. I wanted to bring up and delve into a story. I didn't know a whole bunch about Robbie Starbuck, but Robbie Starbuck apparently has been fighting to restore some good name here. And maybe you tell me a little bit about his experience, if you could. I never talked to him. But apparently, one of the goals right now is to get the system, if you want to call

it artificial intelligence or search engines, to be more truthful of what's going on. Because so much is being done with artificial intelligence. And I guess that what happens is that Robbie went after Metta, which are the Facebook folks, and the Metta artificial intelligence. Could you tell us a bit about what happened with Robbie? Now, I'm not exactly familiar with this. I've heard bits and pieces of it.

But what was it? They were accusing him of being a gen? Was he accused of January 6th or? Yeah. Yeah, apparently. And, uh, well even he's, he's collateral damage for what we actually endured and you get these algorithms like in, for instance, I used to use chat GPT while I was inside. I had my assistant on the outside creating content and things of that nature. And whenever you would enter anything in

related to January six, it would basically say that you're insurrectionist and this that or the other. And it was something that was it has a inherent bias and it's all up to who programs these programs and whether they're going to what whether they see January six as an insurrection or a feds erection. And so I'm sure he fell victim to the outcome. Yeah, well, here's the story. And actually, it's not about J6 as much as here it is. What happened is that Mark Zuckerberg, this was reported in The Hill recently.

And it's one of those stories I hadn't paid much attention to. I didn't know if you had either. But something tells me if it can happen to Robbie Starbuck, happen to anyone. Meta executive apologizes to Robbie Starbuck, happen to anyone. Meta executive apologizes to Robbie Starbuck, a lobbyist, on behalf of the company's artificial intelligence group because it was spreading false information about this conservative activist. And he observed, he opposed diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts here. And Joel Kaplan, Metta's chief global affairs officer, wrote in a Tuesday post on X that we're working with our product. But anyway,

Starbucks said that Metta AI falsely reported that he was present at January 6. So they were reporting him and inaccurately stated that he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct for his actions and so Facebook, where the meta people had to come back and apologize for it because you know I guess it's even you know even the AI lies about people. Does it not sound very Orwellian or 1984ish that you you speak out against DEI and then the machine attacks you, right, and promotes this propaganda and then slanders you and smears your name and

then you get this company that says, this is our artificial intelligence, nobody was actually responsible for it, our algorithm did it on accident. We're sorry about that. Well, to be fair though, Meta did fall on its sword over that one. I don't know where it's going to go on this, but I'm just kind of curious. Since you are so involved with the J6ers trying to reintegrate them and help them get over some of these incredible usurpations of Liberty over the years here, Shane, and how many of them of the J-6ers who have been released in or pardoned it seemed to be doing okay in your view and how many are really really still suffering it on a daily basis would you give me a

guess on that I would say a lot of the guys are I would say intact right and I say this because honestly, Mr. Meyer, it has been challenging emotionally and mentally because for me personally, I did my last year in solitary confinement. Ooh boy. Those conditions are less than ideal and it's very difficult.

So you, and in prison, it's very dog eat dog world in prison. And so typically what you do as an inmate is you put away the love for your wife and for your children and you hide that and you stuff that down in there. You really focus on not feeling, and you kind of shut down emotionally because that makes you very vulnerable in there. So now you've had somebody that's been locked up for four years who's shut down emotionally to protect themselves and not that they don't love their family, but you can't focus it. Because imagine if you're in jail away

from your family and all you thought about all day was like, how much I love and miss my family. How miserable would you be, right? And so now you... So you had to go cold, in other words. You had to cool that down and then put it in a deep freeze. Wow. Well, and then you're thrown back out into society and then imagine trying to turn all that back on and it is very difficult and you don't feel normal. Like I've said that many days, I don't like feeling abnormal like I am. I want to be myself again and it is a challenge. And so we all struggle to an extent to put our lives back on track. A lot of men are going back to work. Some are saying, you know what, maybe my life is never gonna be normal again, and I'm staying in this fight because we've been fighting this whole four years. Some of us were

fighting before January 6th, and we're like, we're uniquely equipped, and God chose us for this fight, and we're gonna fight against this machine, whether it's DEI, open borders, the transgender ideology, the perverse books in children's schools, whatever it is, we're going to continue to fight. I feel like the deep state establishment, whatever you want to call them, made a really, really big mistake when they picked on these veterans, blue collar, law enforcement, prison guards, whatever they were, because they made a mistake when they went after the people.

And so I think that the people are going to have this grassroots movement and continue to fight on and rise on. I look forward to this fight, but it's like, back to the question. But there's emotional damage here, would you tell me? Absolutely, absolutely. Are most of the J6ers men? I would say yes. I would say probably 98% probably men.

I would say at least maybe 99. The reason I bring this up is that there are differences between men and women, and women tend to have a better social support, emotional support structure just kind of built in to them. And I admire women for that. When men go through this kind of stuff, we tend to just get weird and broken because we don't have that that support structure around that is that kind of what you're dealing with and I'm not saying that if you were a woman in

in in the gulag the last two three years that it didn't hurt you I'm not saying that but I'm saying that women seem to be better at healing on that stuff with you would you agree or not you know it I think man I think and I think you could probably relate to that. I think men tend to carry their burdens in silence, right? And we, you know, we're like, we tell, I remember telling myself, don't be a weenie, you know, like just gut it out, you know, put one foot in front of the other. And that's kind of what it is.

And I've kind of found that as we do that, we don't realize you look around you and you don't realize like, Bill, you've got a burden that you're carrying. And if I'm saying, man, I'm having a really rough day, I'm feeling disconnected from my family or my church or my community or whatever. When I open up and show that vulnerability to you and you can say, man, you know what? The other day I was feeling the same way or whatever. And so I believe as a community, especially amongst January sixers, being vulnerable because a lot of us are family

now and friends. And so being vulnerable and being transparent and being open has promoted me in our community. And so then you know what? I saw some things in prison and I had to do some things in prison that I'm not proud of and I want to talk about it. And it's really eaten me up inside. And so it's created these conversations that are promoting health in the community. But I agree, I think men tend to suffer and isolate and be alone when they do that and carry that in

silence. Yeah. I've always wanted to ask people there were in J6 and did you have to join gangs to be able to survive or were you left alone in that respect? Well so that's why I spent my last year in solitary confinement. In federal prison, they have a thing called CARS, which is basically a gang, but basically it's either located along racial lines or geographical lines. So like they'll have the Texas car where I'm from Texas, and so there's a lot of people from Texas in prison. So when you get to a prison, you're in the Texas car. And as a, and as a result, like you're, you're required to what they call put in work or beat people,

smash people off the art or do whatever it is to have people or whatever. And so I refuse to comply. I'm not going to compromise my Christian morals for anybody. And then, so as a result, that put my life in danger. So I had to go to the shoe, the solitary confinement, because I refused to participate in their shenanigans. But I saw two people die in a 90-day period, one from a fentanyl overdose and another one got beat to death and choked by his celly to death. And you know what they did at the prison, they locked us in our cell for a couple hours and then let us out later on like nothing had happened.

Okay, just go ahead and sweep the body into the dustbin and off we go. Yeah. Okay. All right. Hey, Shane, thanks for sharing a bit of your story, your experience there. And one more time on your website, your foundation, because you're working to get these people restored to an extent. Yeah, if your audience, man, if they feel led, please go to standinthegap.foundation. If you want to throw us a few dollars, we would love it. If you want to send us an encouraging email or say a prayer, by all means, please pray for us. Please pray for our community. And if you have, you know, we're also accepting vehicle donations that people have

a vehicle that they're not using or grandson didn't need or whatever. Somebody went off to college, we're taking vehicles because guys are trying to get back to work, women too, and we could use any help that you guys have. So thank you all and God bless you all. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Shane. Good talk this morning. Good to have you on.

You're welcome back anytime. It's 758. Shane Jenkins once again, the executive director of Stand in the Gap. Standinthegap.Foundation.