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Yeah, Town Hall News. Town Hall News, okay. Also a great look at the tech world. Kim Commando. Kim Commando, Digital Update, and then Dr. Dennis Powers, where past meets present. Today, we've been talking about, for several weeks now, about how our various towns were formed.

And today we're gonna take a look at Eagle Point, and then we're gonna dive down the Trump legal rabbit hole of everything else, although he did just announce here just a few minutes ago that he is not going to run for a third term. I think that the Constitution pretty much prohibited that, but you know you got to get everybody all excited about such matters. Today's also the day that student loan payments resume. And I find this interesting. I'm wondering what the economic impact is going to be on this because I know there's a lot of people that have not been paying a lot of student loan for a lot of time.

A lot of lot is there. And I have a credit repair guy, Paul Oster, who's going to join me tomorrow morning. I've talked to him before. He has a company on the East Coast. But we wanted to dig more into this. I'm going to have him on 635 tomorrow. I think it'll be an interesting talk. And my own daughter, four years, you know, I've told you about Sarah.

You know, Sarah went to Portland State University, got the great diverse equity and inclusiveness, hard left-wing indoctrination. Like I said, back in the day, and of course she works in the biology lab world kind of thing. She does a lot of work. She's still working for OHSU. But I asked her about this. I said, gosh, she went into all the student debt, even though there were some scholarships and grants that she got too.

But still, she took out some loans. And she wanted me to co-sign it. And, Lyndon, I said, no, especially, no, sorry, honey, not getting involved in this one, because we didn't think she was particularly doing the student loan thing wisely. And I said, you got to watch out out, you gotta watch out for this stuff. Even back then she was saying, no, we just assumed that this stuff is all going to be forgiven someday. Maybe I'll have to go to work for the government

or do something else. And I have a feeling that there were a lot of Sarahs that were looking at this and I said, honey, I don't know. I don't know about this. People who never went to college, and of course I did not go to college, may feel a little bit irritated that, you know, you took the money, then didn't want to pay. And I have a feeling a lot, a lot of Americans, I'm just kind of curious, I'm going to talk

to Paul, what he thinks the impact is going to be on gross domestic product, because money that would be going, in fact, if I recall, she said, I asked her not not too long ago how much she was going to have to pay. I think it was $900 a month. Well $900 a month is a pretty good chunk of either rent payment or you know maybe a new car and payment and insurance and there would have to be some impact on this. This would be taking some money out of the greater economy to go into FedGov to pay that back. But we'll see. We'll talk with Paul about that and where things are going because yeah, all the delays, all the COVID stuff, gone, done. So we'll have that coming up too. This is the Bill Meyer Show. Town Hall News next and then Dr.

Powers. If you really want to enjoy your open air space. May is Wildfire Awareness Month and a great time to For your free Samsung Galaxy with qualifying plan, pure talk, wireless by Americans for Americans. Hear KMED in Krantz Pass on 1059, K290AF Rogue River, in South Jackson County on 1067 K294 AS Ashland. 17 after 8 every Monday, Dr. Dennis Powers and I like to grab a couple coffee, maybe

a little more coffee on my side of the things. I don't know if I drink more than Dennis or not, but I'm happy to have you back. How are you doing this morning, Dennis? Welcome. Always a pleasure and I always have at least one cup of coffee with you when we're talking. Very good. What type of coffee do you like? What's your favorite?

Oh, it's the Keurig. And it's what you get at Costco. Oh, okay. It's not a special blend. My favorite is Mount Comfort. I was talking about that on Facebook over the weekend because I had noticed that the price of course... I don't think any of this has been,

been, I'm sorry, not tariffs. It wasn't tariff driven, I think, but I was looking at the online orders because I would always buy four bags of it at a time. And if I went back to 2021, I was paying $77 for, or $72 for four bags, for two and a half pound bags. And now that has steadily climbed over the years and now at $107, but it is shipped for free.

I'm not changing. I like the coffee and I'm gonna keep drinking it, but it's interesting to see when you look back at receipts of orders you've done for the exact same product, it's interesting to see what has gone on over the years through the Biden administration and even into the early Trump administration. It's interesting to see what has gone on over the years, through the Biden administration and even into the early Trump administration.

It's still there, isn't it? That is really interesting. You definitely are a connoisseur when it comes to coffee. And in terms of checking prices, we do it too in terms of just when I go ahead and do shopping for Judy at a Safeway or at Albertsons, I can tell, oh boy, that's really gone up. I used to meet, for example, presidents, actually SOU president spouses, as they were going

ahead and doing that as well. We were trained well by our moms. It's funny that, and I was thinking, all right, my coffee company is ripping me off, right? Yeah, I'm thinking they're ripping me off charging $26.75 for a two and a half pound bag. And then even in Costco and the grocery stores I was looking, you know, 11 bucks for a pound of coffee is not unusual these days. Now if you get the cheapy restaurant blend, which looks like sand, you know, coming out

of the bag, you know, maybe you could spend six bucks a pound, but yeah, it's real. It's real. There's no way getting around that. All right. That is very, very true. Hey, let us talk about the next town. We've been going through a series of how our various cities were founded here, and today it's going to be Eagle Point. How'd that all start? Let's go back, way back. This is really interesting to put it all together and seeing how all of these towns and cities came about. This goes back to 1852 if you can believe, 175 years ago, settlers were making their way towards the Willamette Valley over the

Upgate Trail Bill, and then they would stop in southern Oregon to start new lives. And with the Jacksonville gold rush going on at that time, these settlers said, we will go ahead, one of the things that you and I, my friend, have talked about, we're not going to go ahead and mine with all those aggressive, tough people. We'll sell flour to them. Well, you have talked about so many of our towns how the people who seem to do really well were not as much the gold miners. Now, there were some gold miners who got very successful, but the most successful people were the ones that said, we're gonna sell to the gold miners, right? They always get paid upfront. Everything

you do. That's right, and that's after Wyrika started this all off with the California gold rush, if you will, as they went up north. You had folks that started Ashland because the fact that they thought it made more sense to sell, you know, to the miners. And at the same time, Jacksonville, though, because of the status of its strike and continuing strikes, really was flourishing. But then the railroad missed it to set up Medford all about 30 years later. And so we have Medford on the plains that takes off and Jacksonville

is actually isolated. What was interesting, my friend, also, is that if we get to Eagle Point, it was an Englishman by the name of James J. Friar who in 1852 established a general store there and planted a fruit orchard. He's considered to be the father of Eagle Point. The Bute Creek Mill, which is really a modern-day situation, but started up basically in 1872, was constructed along the banks of the Little Butte Creek. Now was this also owned by James J. Fryer or someone else involved with that? It was set up by someone else but what was interesting though was the fact that

they had a four-story near 6,000 square foot structure then. Once it was completed, wagons billed lined the dirt road to the mill to have their grain ground in the flour. But to give you an idea is that these actually over one-half ton pound millstones were quarried just outside of Paris, came across some clipper ships around Cape Horn, went to Crescent City, wagon train, then brought them up to the Rogue Valley. That was a big, big shipment day in that world, wasn't it? I mean, just insane to think about this.

Lots of horses and wagons, and to just take it over the roads couldn't have been in very good condition by today's standards, right? Oh, and Bill, that's a real good observation because the wagon trail from Crescent City heading into southern Oregon was totally not the way it is now with a modern highway, and it would take weeks. And of course, during the summertime, it'd be dry as concrete, but then during the winter, you could be bogged down in horrible mud pools, if you will. And in any event, the town itself was named by John Matthews, it was now named Eagle Point. But what was interesting, Bill, is that it was after the Butte with

its eagles that when you're going up 62, you can get a quick gander at what it was, where there would have been eagles there, but in any event you had wagons lining the dirt road to the mill. Was the mill really the big commercial attraction to start with in the early days of Eagle Point? So you had agriculture there and you'd even have more because with the mill right there it was very it was easier than if you were in Medford or Sam's Valley to go ahead and bring your wagons there and so Eagle Point really was flourishing where Jacksonville was so isolated due to the fact of the railroad bypassing it to head right into Medford in the 1880s. To your knowledge, was Eagle Point the Butte Creek

Mill, was that the only mill we had or were there other ones around here in Southern Oregon? There were other ones. They had a mill in Ashland, but on the other hand, when your mode of transportation really is by wagon, the proximity and the seasons would make a real... This was a hard life then, as opposed to the easy life where Democrats can go ahead and live with their mom and dad and go out and demonstrate against the rest of us who are working for a living. No opinion there, all right. Oh yeah, because of the fact that when we, you know Bill, when we think about how we

grew up, not having credit cards, not having student loans, not having these things where we had to work to get our education, just gave us the values that the easy life is not giving to these kids now unless you have good parenting that's coming in. And so these changes are part of the things that we're fighting against now in terms of Trump versus the far left. But you know in terms of Eagle Point, my friend, you know you had Camp White that really gave it a shot in the arm. You had the Robert Trent Jones golf course that was designed in Eagle Point. It's about 9,800 people now, which is much bigger than some of the other towns we've

talked about but the Bute Creek Mill was burned completely down on this morning in Maverett well I did too and then I knew that it had been completed because you know I know that some of your listeners had gone ahead were involved in the fundraising and they were able to form the Butte Creek Mill Foundation and it took them seven years and so the the mill was reopened in 2022. 826 and we'll post everything about about Butte Creek and of course Eagle Point your latest posting we'll do that on KMED.com doctor and It's like a winner. Yeah, somebody may have a question or comment on that. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? You're with Dr. Powers Hey guys, it's Steve

Yes, Dave, did you want to comment on the Eagle Point situation we were going through? Well the whole economic system of the Rogue Valley I was born right after the war. I had a grandmother that was very close to me and she was born in 1895 and something she shared with me was it took 10 acres of dry land hay to feed a horse. So that's in order to have that horse to pull your plow, to pull your wagon, you had to have a team horse. So it took 20 acres of dry land hay to just feed your plow.

Just to feed the plow. And so what a difference though it must have been with the bringing in of gasoline and diesel and coal. bringing in of gasoline and diesel? She remembered that, guys. She remembered that when she said in like 1906 or 7 somebody had a wagon with a motor on it in Central Point and they had several people out there pushing the thing to get it to go and it'd go about 20 feet and then stall and And she said there were people laughing and falling down. It was so hard to how stupid this wagon was. And in 1911 or 12, they, they, the Model T started coming in.

Yeah. And they were clamoring for their, they were clamoring for their own wagon that was motorized. Right? Yes. And then horses were, I think they slaughtered horses because nobody wanted to go to all the work to feed horses. So horses became obsolete. Yeah, it became a luxury of sorts. Hey, Steve, I appreciate the look back through your mom's eyes. Okay. Appreciate that.

Yeah. And the railroads really softened the blow because you even had the early 1900s when the Pacific and Eastern Railroad arrived to Eagle Point. And this whole thing about transportation and how it changed is a really intriguing area to look into at some other time. All right. Well, Doc, we're going to make this post and then I'll tell you what, let's dive down the Trump legal rabbit hole. What do you say? Okay? You being a retired professor of business law, we got to do it. And there's a lot of Trumpy news this morning.

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And there was a bunch of it over the weekend here, Dr. Powers, where past meets present. We're going back to the present here right now. One of the most interesting legal decisions that I saw, actually went in Trump's favor on Saturday, US appeals court had ended up halting the order and allowing or ordering Voice of America employees back to work. And I thought that was really interesting. In fact, a majority of the judges on the court of appeals

in the DC, they wrote that the lower court judges lacked the jurisdiction to order the employees to return to work. Gee, you think here, doctor? It's almost some of the first judicial sense that I had seen. It's like whether the DC court is thinking that they don't like what President Trump was doing with his executive order. The fact that the court thought that they could order Voice of America and everything else to reopen and hire everybody back, it's like, where is that in the Constitution?

I'm just curious. Yeah, that's true. What all of us have found out is that it is so important as to whom you elect or appoint as a judge. And part of the problem is that 95% of all the decisions that have been adverse to the administration have been by Obama and Biden appointed far-left judges. And I can say that because I'm not practicing and I have retired because you couldn't say that if you are going to where you might be coming across a judge in the courtroom that is a Democrat or is left of a Republican.

The other thing is that there's so much going on that this decision, of course, will be appealed to the Supreme Court. Oh, so this one about Voice of America? To the Supreme Court again? Yes. Wow. And this is really unfortunate because the far left has figured out that the only way they can get their power back and get back into the socialistic path is by going ahead and clogging up all of the

paths that Trump is trying to do. Because my friend, they have really, if you're a good fundraiser for a party and you're an attorney and you want to go ahead and be appointed as a judge, that can be very helpful. In other words, the Norm Isons of the world, would that be a fair assessment of what's going on here? You know, the Norm Isons of the world? I had a neighbor of mine that I grew up with that went to Harvard Law School and she actually became a judge in Michigan. I kept up with her and we would have debates, friendly ones, all the way along as to what the law should be and where it would go

and this and that. She passed away a few years ago, but she was a good fundraiser. And so in any event, we have all these things due process is one of those ones that's being abused, really abused. And let me ask you about that here, doctor, because the concerns that I've had and of course due process, we're being told that there doesn't have to be any due process or vetting of millions of people being let in under past administrations. But now we're told that there has to be tons of due process in order to vet anybody for removal. And it seems like it's a one way kind of direction about this. And is not due process when it comes to immigration issues. Isn't that almost turning the Constitution into,

I'm sorry to bring up this term, I forget who came up with it. But the Constitution ends up being a, well, it's not supposed to be a suicide pact almost. How do you defend your country when there's no vetting coming in and then you have to vet them as they leave under the guise of due process? What do you think about this in the legal world, in the legal term? Well, that's what really puts it into a murky area. For example, due process. By the fifth applies to the federal government, the 14th to the state government. There's two aspects, procedural and substantive. It makes no difference. It's still due process. Procedural is right

to a fair hearing. Substantive is the laws must be reasonable. For example, there's more. And then when you go into citizen versus non-citizen and you go into immigration, there is a difference. Citizens will have more protections. Non-citizens won't. All right, could it go as simple? Would due process be satisfied? If you have have a hearing you have the writ of habeas corpus the body is produced which is what that is right you produce the body so the body is is brought in the court alive hopefully you know that kind of thing and so you have the illegal immigrant who is there is it as simple as then saying do you have a visa or authorization to be in the United States?

Is that, does that satisfy the due process? Because that would seem to me to be the simplest way of looking. Are you authorized to be here or not? If you are not, thank you very much. And then we move along. Yeah. Now, first of all, you know, many of these cases are heard in the immigration court, it's confusing also because there's a 1996 law that was passed that states that if you've been in the country for less than

two years and within a hundred miles of the border when you're apprehended, you can deport it immediately without a hearing. Okay. And unless you're an asylum seeker, an asylum seeker, and then the majority of cases there's little defense and most confess they cross illegally. Well, when you go through the law, I just said to myself, big deal. And the reason is, is the fact that what the far left wants is to have hearings for these millions of illegal immigrants, whether they're criminals or not, because they're vote carriers. And also, effectively, they'll never get anyone out, or at least the vast majority will always

be staying, if you're going to do that, right? Exactly. And it is an incestuous, insidious thing. You know, I had a debate with a very good friend of mine who has never voted for a Republican and never would, but we're friends. We play bridge together. And I went through the legal things. And after we talked about it, he said, well, I'm really conflicted because I know the law

should be if you came here know the law should be, if you came here illegally, you should be deported immediately. The problem is that these attorneys and sources funding and these communist approaches, seriously, it's being used by people now. They finally can see what this is about, is the fact that you come in there and and you just say deserves a hearing because he wanted asylum and what the asylum is now is they're going ahead and saying oh well he does want to go to El Salvador why because he might be killed by a rival gang that was a silent well that I'm sorry you remember again that means that you know the words

you contributed to your problem too bad you know You know, it's not, that's, why is that the United States problem, I guess is what I would ask. Oh, and I would totally agree with you legally and totally agree with all the points, but because this is a horrid civil constitutional crisis, that what's happening is, is the far left ones, they their power back and they don't like private enterprise. Do you see the time coming though that the president might just under just declare an emergency and say rid of habeas corpus not applicable in immigration? Well that's being attacked right now in

the courts and when the Supreme Court is adjourned, which is really unfortunate, is that Roberts has been sitting back letting all this play out because he wants to have some good, ripe cases to look into. Now, is he dragging his feet in your opinion? Is Roberts dragging his feet? Waiting? Yes. But you know Bill, the other thing is he's also waiting for Congress to go ahead and come across with some changes which they have the power to do procedurally where a district court judge does not have the

power to go entirely to the 50 states from a state where the parties are really litigating an issue that is just in that state. And Oregon is very, very big on joining those lawsuits too. Absolutely. I've seen the changes that have happened here even in Southern Oregon University because of the problem of the state saying, if you want funding from us and our governor, you will need to do this in terms of students. Yeah, my concern will be, my concern, Dr. Powers, is that what's going to end up happening is that there will be death, the death of the Trump agenda by a million cuts, and they won't be reasonable cuts.

It's just going to be so tied down. Do you think that's a reasonable concern at this point in time? And if you look to Congress, hey, it'd be nice to look at Congress doing something, but I think that even since they've been back in power in session, they've only passed five laws this entire time. Some of it was pretty small ball stuff. Yes I have a slightly different optimistic take even though legally I really am very I'm pleasantly surprised as what's happening to the way the law is being distorted in terms of these issues and that that's the fact that Trump is so bright with this administration

when I heard about the fact that he was going to set up Alcatraz. I laughed when I read this. Okay, all right, I love this idea about Alcatraz. Here's the deal. It's about time that he opened up or reopened Alcatraz because Hillary Clinton needs a place to stay, wouldn't you say? Well, in terms of what they did to Trump versus the way that Biden's Department of Justice was the Department of Injustice, let her destroy her server and also 30,000 emails that was private is unbelievable to me and you see part of the problem that that Trump is is is running into Biden with his fraudulent approaches to things that is all

fibers what a president does as you know so well, or the leader, is it sets the value for the rest of that corporation or the rest of that entity. Isn't the real issue here at the heart of it though? Is that the left completely, with rare exception, owns the judiciary and owns the legal system? Is that too harsh of a judgment or not? I don't think it does. You don't? And the reasons are in these areas, Bill. One is, is that the far left

has been able to do forum shopping and they have gone right into judges that were appointed by Biden and or Obama. And if you look at the history of these judges they are as left as one could be and they are trained to figure out some way to where they can stand out. Yeah but even judges that Trump appointed have been ruling against him too so I don't know that's necessarily a you know a solid analysis. Am I wrong? Well, that's very true, except I'm going on percentages, Bill, because I've come across two Bush appointees that have run into the same thing.

But it also depends in terms of sometimes oppositions are so smart that they'll bring in something they know they're going to lose on, or they know it's iffy, and they'll take that one into the best judge for it, which is why I wasn't surprised that a couple of Bush appointees went ahead and went for the administration, but then didn't. The important thing that I'm seeing is, too, why I have an optimism here. Right now, the whole Congress has got to get Trump's big, beautiful, one bill through on taxes. Otherwise, the Republican Party and independents are toast in 2026. So you think that's the key at this point.

All right. So don't worry about the other stuff for now. All right. He's trying to get his judges in now. All right. He's going to have to wait. All right. Final question then.

Who would you put first in Alcatraz, given your choice? Who should have the primary suite? Who do you think? I like that one. I would say the one, although it's not going to happen, would be Letitia. The AG of New York. Who already is using taxpayer funds to defend herself for her fraudulent activity in saying that her father was her husband in buying a four-unit place and all the lies that she had done she'd be...

Got it. All right, we're losing your phone there, Doc. I'll tell you what, we'll talk next Monday. So four hots and a cotton alcatraz for Letitia, right? Oh, I think we lost him. We'll leave it. See, that's when the system finally shut him up when he was trying to talk about Letitia James. No, no, not three hats of the cut. You know, she did more. Four hats of the cut. It is 847. 770-5633. All right. Who would you first put in Alcatraz if you were given your choice, given the fact that the Trump administration wishes to open it up? Let me know. This hour of the Bill Meyer show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit FontanaRoofingServices.com. Your smile is the key to your health and confidence. Do you know

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The Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. The Bill Meyers Show on 1063 KMED. I appreciate you being here. We can have a little fun this morning and if Trump does reopen Alcatraz as he has proposed, who should be the first honorary inmate? I like the idea of Hillary for that matter. Jan writes me this morning, hey Bill, I think Democrats would be the best audience for those those Mark Patrick seminars What what easily persuadable? Yeah, you think so? Oh, I don't know. I know he does a great job on those Does great business on a lot of people seem to have done pretty well. I've known people who have Jen Appreciate the call and I know they're not Democrats. I know that I'm gonna go to Jack. Hello, Jack. How are you this morning? What's on your mind? Doing good, Jack. Hey, first of all, Soros is the first one needs to go to Alcatraz. He's the

financier of all this, all the figureheads that do his bidding. So I vote for Soros. Okay, fine. The other thing is, I want to bring up is you talk about immigration and controls and with Dr. Powers. First of all, we've led a bunch of people in here that have never had any health certificates, any vaccinations, and here we see an increase in rise in the measles. So I think that's directly contributed to the population of increased measles into the population. Thirdly, this whole thing with the immigration, they've sent these people to certain places.

I think one, increase the population and to change redistricting for the votes. I think the votes is one thing, but I think the redistricting in the population of the counties and the states is their primary interest. I've always thought that the big error in the census is that the census just counts people in the area. And if you're going to use just counting people in the area and you have an area with a large illegal immigrant population, there's no way that you're not giving them more power and more representation through congress, is what

happens, usually. And yet they shouldn't be counted, in my opinion. Good point. Let me just go back to it. Just have a little fun on Monday. First bed in Alcatraz. I don't know. We can talk about that and other things on your mind. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Morning. This is Carol. I hate to say it, but Fauci came to mind right away. Fauci came to mind? Hmm. Interesting. Yeah, right away. You know, he killed millions of people.

What? You would imprison the science? Absolutely, if you want to call it science. There we go. We got a little, you know, he's a little guy, little gnome in there. He would need to join an Alcatraz gang. Otherwise, he'd be in big trouble. Well, he'd have a nice view. He'd have a nice view. Come on. Okay. Yeah, it cracks me up. Sorry. Hey, if we can't have fun on a Monday, what can we do, right? Let me go another call. Hi, good morning, who's this? Welcome.

This is Minor Dave. Hello, Dave. I don't have one, I have a list. You do? Dr. Fauci on the top. Fauci, all right. Nancy Pelosi and her husband. Okay, all right.

Trish, yeah, what's her name from New York. Oh, Letitia. Letitia James. And Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Crockett. Okay, so you have a four-banger or five-banger, I guess, in this particular case. More of a gang. All right.

One gang to another gang. Just having a little fun here. All right. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning. This is Tracy from up in Mount Vernon, Washington. Tracy in Mount Vernon, good to hear from you in Washington. Let's hear it. Yeah, well, at least Nancy Pelosi could look over her old district, but it's preposterous

just because the cost to rehabilitate the facility, there's probably a lot of asbestos and toxic waste up there. You know, I didn't think about that, but I believe that Alcatraz closed because of the high cost of running that. Wasn't that the case? If I remember my history? Yeah. I mean, let's face it, you're going to have to pay prison guards on metro Bay Area wages down there in San Francisco, Oakland, and that's not cheap. And there's a lot of better places out in the middle of the desert and say Colorado or you know where some of the max prisons are or if you really want to get smart send them off to Johnston Island, US territory out south west of

Hawaii. Alright. Where there's 1200 miles away from anything. Okay, so if you swim away there's no place to go, right? Yeah, but that Alcatraz is just a very good spot to be. Yeah, so do you think this whole thing of reopening Alcatraz is a serious deal or just got kind of throwing something so we talk about it? What do you think? It's still the latter, you know, throw something, some mud against the wall and hopefully it'll stick and get the debate going to have more federal prisons in more cost-effective areas and that's what needs to happen. Fair enough. Tracy, I appreciate your opinion. 770-5633. Having a little fun here this Monday.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, it's Lucretia. Hi Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, it's Lucretia. Hi, Lucretia. What's up? I think we should put everybody that runs Vanguard and BlackRock. Oh, so Larry Fink should go to Alcatraz. Alcatraz is one of them.

They're behind the whole transhumanism agenda. They're told 15-minute cities, everything. They all need to go. All right. I sent you the email, what is Jennifer Bilek? Yeah. Amazing research. I mean even a guy that said... Yeah, let me read it and I had to get back to you. I can't talk about it right now because I have like two minutes left and then I turn into a pumpkin. Okay? All right. Yeah, I can't talk about it right now because I have like two minutes left and then I turn into a pumpkin. Okay? Alright. Yeah, I don't want to turn into a pumpkin too much. Alright, let me help you out. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is Tim from Merlin. Can you hear me okay? I sure can. Go ahead. Yeah, I think it

shouldn't be three hot and a cold. I think it should be three colds and a rock. Three colds and a rock. Alright,s in a rock to sleep on. All right, point well taken. Thank you for that. Let me go to the next line. Hi, good morning. A little bit of fun as we wrap up the show Monday. Who's this? For the attorney general of New York, I can only call her Letitius James. That's the only thing I like to come up with. Do you think there should be a cot with her name on it at Alcatraz? No, I don't care. No, I think Donald Trump's going to charge admission to the rock.

So he's got a plan here. I think he could turn it into, put it in the black. Oh, he's going to make prisons great again. You put your worst criminals in there and then they sell it. And then all of the liberal people who are crying about the horrible justice system can come and visit their pets, right? It's in the Gulf of MAGA. Don't give him the idea.

He'll print it out. Okay, thank you. Now, the San Francisco Bay of MAGA. Oh, could you imagine him doing that in executive order? It is now no longer the San Francisco Bay. Okay, I don't know. I'm just having fun. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello? This is Janet. Hey Janet, give me a quick one here before we take off. My orcas. My orcas for the open

border of the US and for the lost children and a female money going to illegals. Okay. To go to prison. Okay, so okay. I guess I'm missing you there. Did you want to put a particular individual in there or something else? My orcas. Oh, my orcas. Oh, okay, I missed that part. Your phone was a little distorting. All right. Gotcha. Big crimes that man committed. All right. Got it. My orcas. First one in. Go ahead and write me on that one if you want. People come up with a list tomorrow just for fun. The email bill at Bill Myers show.com. I appreciate your listenership today. Podcasts will go up in just a little bit and tomorrow we'll be digging into Pebble in your shoe Tuesday and we'll catch you then. Okay see you then. These shutters protect storefronts, windows, retail counters, product cases, whatever needs instant protection against burglary, vandalism, and severe weather.

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