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The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. Then paying attention to a lot of the issues, the challenges that pharmacies have been having, I noticed that Rite Aid filing for bankruptcy again. I don't know if there's any connection with the 340B. It's not a scandal, but a problem that is being looked at. And it appears that a bill to fix prescription problems and pharmacy problems in

Oregon, House Bill 2385, the cure may be worse than the current disease that we have about this. I don't know if this is connected with what's happening with Rite Aid, but Rite Aid's been in trouble, but a lot of other pharmacies have been in trouble too. A lot of local pharmacies have been in trouble. And I wanted to talk more about this with Leah Vuchmer. She's a Senior Vice President of State Affairs at the National Taxpayers Union. It's NTU.org. Leah, it's great to have you back on. Welcome.

Thank you, Bill. Thanks for having me on, great to be back. This 340B pharmacy issue, and we talked about it for a little while a couple of weeks ago, this is a growing issue. The 340B pharmacy was supposed to be something that was created to help people in really rough, I shouldn't say rough, but maybe low- income communities, a lot of poor people. It was supposed to help them get their prescription medications at a reasonable cost.

Is that a fair way of describing what the intent was? Yes, and great intent, and it's a federal program, which is key here when we talk about this. And it was 1992 for exactly those purposes, low income, uninsured patients, giving them access to affordable medications. And of course, we all believe that there are certain roles for government. And this is one where I think we could all agree, a laudable goal.

And I am a nurse, besides having been a state lawmaker and now in my role at National Taxpayers Union, I have a confluence of experiences to have a perspective to draw from. And I worked with families that were part of this program. So I know how the program started and it was a good intention, but as things often happen with government programs, they morph either through unintended or intended consequences into something that is not what was the original idea of the bill. And in this case, the 340B federal drug program has morphed into a revenue generator for hospitals, large chain pharmacies, and pharmacy benefit managers. Okay. Now, and you were also telling me, because I have your testimony, you submitted to oppose the Oregon House Bill 2385. You're opposing this. And you had noted that these 340B, this 340B program seems to be going to a lot of pharmacies in very high rent neighborhoods or very

expensive or wealthier communities which it never was supposed to? Is that one of the side effects that's been going on? That's right. Instead of serving the most vulnerable, there's been a proliferation of these pharmacies in more affluent neighborhoods. And there's a great study that was done by the Pioneer Institute. And they went state by state and looked at where these pharmacies are. And what they found that half of the 340B Oregon pharmacies are actually, yeah, almost half,

are in affluent neighborhoods. Now, let me ask you, when I say affluent neighborhood, could it be something as even as simple as, let's say Costco pharmacy? Is Costco a 340B pharmacy? Do you happen to know by chance? I don't know the answer to that. But if it were, given the cost at Costco and the way it's working out, it's not usually

a poor person's place. You know what I'm getting at? See? Right. Right. And that's what I was wondering. Yeah. And the other thing that was noted in this report pertaining to Oregon is that 340B hospitals

in Oregon provide less charity care than the national average. And that was one of the other parts of the original legislation was that this is going to pharmacies or pharmaceutical manufacturers provide very deep discounts on medications to eligible providers and then those providers are supposed to pass the savings on to patients. But they're not passing the savings on to the patients isn't that right with these 340B programs? What's happening? Where's the money going? Well that's what we need to know. And those are the questions that state lawmakers should be asking. First of all, state lawmakers should not be trying to reform a federal program. There are

some constitutional issues related to that. And I am, for one, a big believer in federalism and states taking the bull by the horns. But in this case, meddling in a federal program could actually cement into your Oregon state statutes some of the worst aspects of a federal program and make it much harder down the road to fix it, consequently hurting the very people that the program was supposed to help in the first place. And that's what gets me so frustrated when I see lawmakers and, you know, this is Republicans and Democrats across the country.

These bills like this are popping up everywhere. And what is the House Bill 2385 designed to do? What does it do? What do you think is the dangerous part of it? Because we still have some influence. We can call up our state legislators, even on the Republican side, and say, hey, we don't want you supporting this. This is not a good deal.

But we need to be able to say what's wrong with it. Could you help us? Sure. What the program is doing is expanding the number of entities that can take in these discounts. And it's proliferating a bad problem and meaning that there will be more and more of these 340-B entities that will now provide, receive these discounts and then not share it with the people

intended to get the discounts. And so what we really need is accountability, accountability, accountability. And if the state lawmakers want to do anything, that's what they ought to do. They ought to start asking questions. It's just mind boggling to me that a fiscal report was done on this bill by your number crunchers, the smart number crunchers,

and I've worked with them in my state of Wisconsin, and I know they're smart people, but they are saying in their fiscal report that this bill will have no fiscal impact. Well, if it's going to have no fiscal impact, isn't the purpose of this to have a fiscal impact or not? Well, meaning they're saying that it's not going to cost the state, but the problem is what happens is if your state employee health plans, it could have a huge effect. Let me just tell you, give you some examples that we've seen in other states. In Utah, the mandate was projected to cost the state nearly $2 million in lost drug rebates

in just one year. And in North Carolina, hospitals, 340B hospitals were charging cancer patients five times the cost of their medication, all the while billing state health plans. So here's where the cost comes in, billing them. And that's just unthinkable. And Minnesota, the data show that hospitals

netted over 630 million from the program. Is this more of a Medicaid program? And the reason I bring this up is that Medicaid, you know, when people hear that we have to remember it's called Oregon Health Plan here. And what I'm talking about is the extent of this program, it's effect on state employee health plans and everyone else's the Medicaid program runs through has their own system. So these are this is a separate issue. Separate. Okay. What we really need to get is accountability. And right now the bill just had a hearing yesterday in the Senate health care committee. So people can start making phone calls, letting their legislators

know the bill has bipartisan support. It's led by a Republican, but there is a Democrat who is also a sponsor of the bill. Okay. Who's the Republican leading it? Who's the Republican leading it? Do you know? Yes, I had it right here in front of me. If you could just hold on one second. Sure. Um, Representative Dial, or D-I-E-H-L. Oh, Ed Deal. Okay. Yep.

Oh. There's also Representative Gamba, Gomberg, Javadi, and Fahm. Okay. So... They're the main sponsors of the bill. John Berg, Javadi and FOM. Okay. So... They're the main sponsors of the bill. All right. So Representative Ed Diehl is the leader on this one. So you think this is actually going to make it worse, not better?

Now, my question is, is there a law that the state could pass for an example and say, hey, listen, if there's a discount given, it needs to be given to the patient, the end user, or not. Sure. What states could do is require that the 340B hospitals and entities report how much revenue they're earning from the program. Remember, they're getting these discounts from... They're getting the discount from the pharmacy company, from the pharmaceutical companies, right? Yeah. So they could ask, require that they report how that revenue is being spent. You could also require that the full 340B discount be passed to uninsured or cash paying patients.

Right now there's no requirement to share those savings, even though the drug makers are providing the discount. One study showed that only 1.4% of 340B claims use discount cards. Is there a possibility, Leah, that they're trying to use these 340B pharmaceutical company discounts almost as a backfill for the hospital systems? And I bring this up because... Bingo! Oh, okay! This was just a suspicion. This is the big issue, is that And I bring this up because- Bingo. Oh, okay. All right. All right. This was just a suspicion. This is the big issue is that why hospitals need to be held accountable.

All right. Okay. I'll tell you why here. And because last week, the state of Oregon reported that not even half of Oregon hospitals are profitable in making money because they're losing money on providing care and When you talk about this going to hospitals and then they don't want to know where the money goes in the hospital systems I think they're trying to look at not having to bail out the hospital systems Providence hospital system just got out of a nurse's strike that I was talking about and

They haven't been profitable for I think over four years and people say well you got all this money in this investment account but I said no but they're losing money on actually providing patient care right and most of them are and that's what's what's kind of scary and is the state trying to encode like a backdoor bailout for them which is not what the 340B is supposed to do it's supposed to be going to people that are poor and I don't believe that they're doing that knowingly. I will just say, and there are many hospitals and clinics that use the 340B funds responsibly and they should be supported because that was what the original tent of the legislation was. But it's being pushed as our rural hospitals need the money.

That's the big push. That's the big mantra that's bringing Republicans and Democrats to the table to support this. But if they really understood that those people in the rural areas are not actually getting the benefit, then perhaps they would scrap this bill and instead ask for more accountability. Ask the questions that need to be asked and say, how much is this going to cost the state of Oregon and our state health care plan and what effect is this going to have on our taxpayers? Because those are the questions that should be asked instead of passing this off. And I'll be honest with you, you know, a lot of times lawmakers will see that there's a bill

that is being opposed by pharma companies and they'll say, oh, well, you know, then we must be, you know, we have to- Yeah, you will need jerk in reaction to that and say no, if Big Pharma wants it, no. But they're already offering the discounts, right? We just want to be clear. Yes, they are offering the discounts.

They're cutting the deals. They're cutting the deals for the hospitals and the 340B organizations. But it's what do they do with it? Because it's supposed to be benefiting the end user and especially people who are poor. And I would imagine also maybe cash payments, people who don't have insurance, right? Would that be fair also? Part of it? That's right. It's also for those who are uninsured. Although I thought we weren't supposed to have any uninsured with Obamacare, right, though?

No, I know. Boy, that's an irritation for another day. That's another hour. Okay. All right. Leah, I appreciate this. Do you mind if I share your testimony? I'll put it on my blog today so people can read it.

That's fine. And they can also go to NTU.org, National Taxpayers Union, to get more information about this issue and many other issues. We're out there supporting taxpayers. We support the little guys. We're the taxpayer lobbyists. And I love what I do. It's a great organization and we're happy to help anywhere.

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Is there a double standard of the way the City Council is dealing with U-Turn for Christ versus the way they dealt with mint? Okay, so that person is posing a lot of questions. You could ask the city council about that. But no Winnie, this is not the same kind of stuff the, you know, the helicopter fuel diesel gas. That's not what we're talking about with PFAS. I don't think that is something which would be subject to it. But PFAS of course, Now, well, you know, I do take that back if there was contamination with firefighting foam. I hadn't thought about that until it just crossed me. If we had Ericsson industrial

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I've learned more from you over the years, just of what is going on around here. MyAdvancedAir, advancedair.com. So what is the latest here in the HVAC world as people are ready to transition to summer cooling season? Unless you're- Good morning, Bill. Yeah, unless your compressor explodes

and then you're calling Randall for a repair, I suppose. But what's up? Yeah, no kidding. Hey, we've had a beautiful setup to summer. We haven't had a fast spike in temperature. It's just slowly and gradually been moving up, which is very good and a lot easier on equipment. So we like to see that.

But guess what? Summer is coming. It's going to be over 100 degrees and it probably will be in the next few weeks. So be prepared for that. Now is a great time to have your system serviced and maintained. If you haven't done so already, you can give us a call 541-772-6866 to schedule routine maintenance and that can certainly save you for later in the summer when things get hot and everything is breaking and it's hard to get an HVAC contractor out. Yeah and you know you've come been out to my house you know several times here over the years and what do you do as part of this when you know you send the crew out there? Yeah sure we're doing all sorts of stuff usually we start at the

thermostat we check filters beyond that we make sure everything is on and communicating, make sure that the filters are clean, and then we go into the equipment itself. If it's the outdoor, oftentimes it's the outdoor equipment in the summer and the spring visits, and we're making sure that it's clear of debris, making sure that everything is lubed and ready to go and that there is proper temperature splits and pressures on the equipment and making sure that you're meeting the factory specifications for that equipment. You can actually see as the years go by on a unit there as you're looking at the gauges and such you can

actually tell you can actually see the wear that goes on because of the temperatures and things right you're able to calculate that right?, you can actually tell, you can actually see the wear that goes on because of the temperatures and things, right? You're able to calculate that, right? Yeah, you can. And, you know, for like heat pumps, there's TXV valves. So you're checking the valves and making sure that those are opening properly and that the exchange is happening between refrigerant and gas, that all of that phase process is happening correctly because what ultimately can happen is if a valve fails

and stays shut, it can cause an equipment failure. So we're looking at all of those things as well. All right, very good. So get in touch. You can read that from the pressures. Indeed, 772-6866, you can get your appointment through Randall and myadvancedair.com. Now, there's a challenge here. I would imagine in the current economic inflation, especially there's been a lot of inflation.

We've talked about a lot of inflation. And I would imagine we're also talking about some tariffing also affecting the price. Yeah, especially in our industry. In your industry, sure. And I would imagine people are very price conscious but we wanted to put out a warning here about always accepting the lowest bid or the danger of always going in the lower bid because you've been involved here in which you'll be there against one another four

or five six people because people are shopping multiple bids because of the spikes that have been going on what's's the warning you have for people, huh? Yeah, in our industry, it's extraordinarily competitive. There's about 200 HVAC contractors between Ashland and Grants Pass, serving about 300,000 people. And it's not uncommon at all for us to be up against, you know, three or four or five other bids and and we win a high percentage of those bids. When you're looking at selecting a contractor you want to look at somebody who's accredited by a manufacturer for sure because then you know that they have distributor and dealer support

factory support. Is that also about making sure that you have proper parts because there's a lot of stuff you can buy online and I've been burned by some of that stuff. Yeah absolutely there's that but you know a lot of this stuff you know especially since COVID our marquee brand is Bryant Equipment, but by virtue of being a service provider, we work on all manner of equipment. And there has been a degradation in quality on some of these, through some of these supply chain issues and manufacturing issues.

You know, there's all that staffing problems and supply chain problems and, you know, there's some equipment problems out there and you want a factory and a distributor that stands behind their product. And a lot of these competitors don't have that. With Bryant, we are a factory authorized Bryant dealer, which is the highest level of accreditation that that dealer provides, that that distributor provides. And so we have a satisfaction guarantee on all new Bryant residential equipment that distributor provides. And so we have a satisfaction guarantee on all new Bryant residential equipment that we install.

They will warranty equipment. And so you want that support when you're making a 10, 15, $20,000 investment for sure. You know something, Randall, it's not all that different from the challenges in the supply chain that we've had in automobile repair. When you say it's been very similar, same sort of situation, but you know, I'll give you just one personal example I had, you know, the capacitors that go in HVACs and heat pumps, right? And it's like you get a

bunch of them that come from Mexico, very poor quality, but they're really cheap on Amazon, you know, that sort of thing. And then there are other ones that You get a bunch of them that come from Mexico, very poor quality, but they're really cheap on Amazon, that sort of thing. And then there are other ones that you can buy from American manufacturers that might be $40, $45, but they'll last 10 years. Seriously. Yeah, some of the US-made capacitors we prefer. We offer both.

The US-branded and manufactured capacitors. Cost a little bit more, but we don't have them fail nearly as frequently as some of the offshore capacitors. Yeah, and I took one of them apart, one of the Mexican failed ones that happened one time, just to see what they were like inside. And it was just,

it almost looked like they used olive oil. That's the dielectric, but I don't want to get off in the weeds, but still. Well, a capacitor has a great point, though. Capacitors are usually one of the first things that fail in the summertime. Capacitors store energy and help your equipment start. And when you're starting up your air conditioner for the first few times in the summer, it's drawing really hard on the capacitor. And when you hear that buzz and it doesn't start, it's kind of like, okay, yeah, it's

blown. You know what happened. You know that sound. You know it. Yeah. And that's another thing that we do on maintenance is we measure the microfarads of a capacitor and if it's plus or minus 6% of the manufacturer specs, then we'll recommend replacing it because that's what the manufacturer suggests. Sometimes they're already blown. The challenge with a blown capacitor is you can lose, subsequently you can lose a fan motor or you can lose a compressor. And so when you're dealing with the power,

the electrical parts of a system, the system failure can be significant and the cost can be significant. Yeah, well, this is why though you deal with Randall and myadvancedair.com, Advanced Air, because you've got a good manufacturer, great backup on this one, access to proper parts. You're not just going to Amazon to find the cheapest thing, not that there's

nothing wrong with getting some cheap things on Amazon now and then, but there are costs to it. People have to understand. And especially when you have to go fix stuff that other people have messed up. You've got to do that a lot of times, I know. Yeah, consumer, hey, all of us, we're very price conscious right now and we get a lot of phone calls of people you know purchasing parts or equipment online, Facebook marketplace, on eBay and they're like hey will you come install this and we as a policy do not. We have no idea where that has been and like I said at the beginning of the call we don't have any factory or distributor support.

Everything that we bring to a job, we have factory and distributor support behind us, and that's really powerful and really valuable. All right, now tell us about some of the deals we have going on right now here. Yeah, yeah, Advanced Air has an in-house $1,000, up to $1,000 rebate, instant rebate, on qualifying residential Bryant crossover

systems. And so those are heat pumps and they're very efficient. They have a ductless outdoor unit with a conventional fan coil indoors. So it's more of a, inside it's more of a conventional heat pump, outside it's more of a ductless unit. So those are very efficient. They meet a lot of the new standards that people are, that we're required to meet. And so we have an additional rebate on those.

There is still some spring factory rebates from Bryant that are available. Energy Trust of Oregon has several rebates. There's an income savings within reach program where it's an income-based rebate and it can be up to like $4,000. There's rental property rebates, manufactured home rebates on HVAC equipment. That's good.

And so when you're talking to an HVAC dealer, you want to talk to somebody who is educated in the programs out there because some of these programs represent thousands of dollars in savings. I know it's also, Don, you've talked about this fact that you do the paperwork too, which is really helpful. It's not like you just solving, okay, here's the receipts and go at it, client. Yeah, no, we actually offer the rebate on the proposal and then the rebate is done through advanced error. So we help with all of the application and everything, but it all is pretty seamless. All right, well get in touch with them today.

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Anything else I missed here before we take off? That's it, Bill thank you. Alright, open for business. Thanks Randall. See you next time. 853, this is KMED. The following preview has been rated immature for all audiences except metal roof enthusiasts and small children. In the not too distant sun-baked future, in a world where leafy debris and pine needles collect on unsuspecting homeowners' roofs, where just one seemingly harmless airborne ember could cause a catastrophic fire, two unassuming technicians... He's talking about us! ...embarque on an epic journey to fabricate and install fire-resistant metal roofs on

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names that no one cares about and fewer knew about. We must not have anything else in Oregon to fix. Wouldn't it be nice to have the Democrats doing good things for us instead? All right, thank you, Butch. Yeah, Dave writes me. Dave writes me about the prescription drug issue. We were talking about that a lot. You know, for a couple of weeks Bill had been having problems while urinating, had to go every hour, and I've been getting little sleep. But let's just say a woman I know told me to pick up AZO at either a drug store or grocery store.

She said it's her favorite drug. The active ingredient is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, which is kind of an analgesic for the urinary tract. Most women know about this stuff. I started taking it and despite the fact that it turns everything bright orange, I started getting relief. The doctor's office called me today and said that they were prescribing this same drug with another.

I had picked up 24 tablets for $5.99. It was $11.99 for 24. But yesterday, the prescription at the doctor's office that the doctor gave me for 30 tablets was 45.26. That was my copay. Needless to say, I stuck with the over-the-counter version. How could there be that much difference in the price or better yet why doesn't the doctor say, hey, here's a prescription for one drug but you can get the other, the exact same drug as the pharmacist said, over-the-counter, much cheaper? Could it be because they are screwing us? Could it be? Dave, do I even have to answer that? Yeah, boy, I'll tell you we

really have to be really informed people on these kind of things. Boy, what a huge deal. Yeah, if you can get it over-the-counter much much and gosh just the the copay was more. Maybe we talk more about that tomorrow but thanks for emailing Dave. Appreciate it. See you Thursday.