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Episode Date: May 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:25 ClouserDrilling.com. Great people over there. Kevin Gill, keeping an eye on your water rights. Someone's got to keep an eye on the water rights because if it wasn't for people like Kevin Gill and others of his ilk, I'm sure that we would have meters on absolutely everything. And if you even thought about turning on the faucet, the state of Oregon would know about it
Starting point is 00:00:45 That's you know, just my opinion, but there we go 11 minutes after 6 mother's day weekend looks like it's gonna be a beautiful day today. We're gonna start seeing some changes I guess maybe some Cooler temps on Sunday and some rain coming late, but but that's rain coming late. I'm getting ready for Mother's Day weekend I am fortunate to still have my mother 85 years old 85 years old might be even listening right now got her a new set of headphones there, so she's listening this morning and She'll be coming over to our house tomorrow. We're gonna have Mother's Day tomorrow
Starting point is 00:01:18 So I had to go out get some cream cheese and zucchini. We're gonna make zucchini bread along with pot roast I essentially went out and sold a kidney and donated some plasma and bought a whole bunch of chuck steak. I can still remember a day when chuck steak was cheap. No. It's going to be great though. Yeah, we're going to, you know, make a, it's not a pot roast. We're going to do something. It's not a pot roast, kind of like a pot roast. But the thing is though, is that as expensive as it was, it is going to make sandwiches for days. So you'll be watching me eating these chuck steak sandwiches all nice and tender for a number of days. So yes, even though chuck steak, I could
Starting point is 00:02:01 find ads. 1960s papers, I have a box of papers underneath there, Chuck steak, 75 cents a pound. You see that advertised in shirms or food for less or something. But of course it was all relative, as contrasted with the pay. But yeah, I think it was was it nine bucks nine bucks a pound for chuck steak for something that you have to sit there and and And crock pot for hours and hours and hours to make edible, but oh well not complaining still be great mom Mom will be over. We'll have that enjoy it. I'll make either smashed potatoes or mashed potatoes. It'll be good and we'll have a potatoes or mashed potatoes, it'll be good. And we'll have a nice zucchini bread. Linda's going to bake that. So that's our plan. That's my plan for the weekend here. All right. Top world story, of course. We have an American pope, Cardinal Robert Prevost
Starting point is 00:02:59 of Chicago. So we get a Chicago Democrat as the first American pope. Hey, that's great. I know. I was raised a Catholic. I'm not in the Catholic faith any longer, so I feel like I have a little toe both in, but I pay attention to this and I've been really interested to see what was going on. And a lot of conservative Catholics that confide in me were hoping that the African bishop was going to be chosen. Truly a conservative, because let's just face it, the last pope was for all intents and purposes a hard left Marxist, open border. This pope, the American pope, Pope Leo XIV, is also an open borders guy.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yep, open border except for the Vatican. I always find that really interesting. And I don't want to dwell too much on this if you have an opinion one way or another, go right ahead. I know that Reverend David LaBarbera, who wrote me, was not real happy about this, and I also reached out to Dr. Robert, or Dr. John Zmirak. Remember Dr. John Zmirak? It's been a while since I've had a chance to talk with him. He is the editor of The Stream, which is a conservative news source, stream.org, and it does a lot of Catholic news, but they take it from a really conservative point of view. And I said, well, Dr. Zmirak, what do you think about the new pope? And this is what was being announced yesterday. And he said, no, I can't talk to you today, Bill. Friday morning is bad, but so is this guy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And that's what Dr. John Zmirak wrote to me. I said, I'm really sorry to hear that. Maybe we could talk about it at some point. What's going on here? And Dr. John Zmirak had this to say about the new pope. Lavender mafia, the lavender mafia, a pal of James Martin, the Jesuit LGBTQ activist. And I figure if anyone knows, a reporter and editor of the stream, Dr. John Zmirak, knows. So in essence, this is a slight lightening up, and maybe the idea is, you know, you kind of get it past American Catholics. Well, it's an American!
Starting point is 00:05:14 It's an American pope! But for the most part, Dr. John Zmirak says no. Not a particularly conservative guy, not particularly orthodox. Yeah, he's okay with protecting life, and that's pretty good, but still open borders, and big, big, big involvement with the island of misfit humans, as if the Catholic Church has not had enough problems with that in the past there. But, you know, everyone's just saying, it's an American pope! A little bit of
Starting point is 00:05:47 misdirection, I think, is how a lot of the conservative Catholics are referring to it as the way my interpretation of it, at least. Okay? But, anyway, that's what the conservative Catholics are thinking, and the conservative Catholics are not thinking it is all that big of a deal. An interesting report came out last night, and it had to do with the local collapse of the North Medford High School gym. I saw that came in late last night, about 8 o'clock, and it was quite interesting. The engineering consultant ended up putting out a final report here, and I haven't had a chance to completely read it. Remember there was all the snow? This was back in February, and now they're having to spend tons and tons of money to replace
Starting point is 00:06:39 the gym. The whole gym was a total loss now now there was no way they were going to be able to rebuild anything that was there but the consulting engineers from KPFF consulting engineers they put out this report I'm going to share a little bit from from one of these pages here they're talking about the allowable stress design of glulam you're gonna hear this term a lot glulam which is glued laminate. Those were the type of beams that they had. And I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff, but that glue laminate essentially taking layers of, well, it's like very, very high strength super duper, super duper, super duty plywood. It's not really plywood but multiple beams. They glue it all together.
Starting point is 00:07:27 They glue the wood beams together. And they talked about what led to the collapse here. And essentially this is kind of what Brad Bennington and I were talking about a number of months ago when this story first broke out here. In the consulting engineers' professional opinion, the beams over, I'm just going to read and dance around some of their report here just so you know, the beams on the North Medford High School supported the required roof dead, live, and snow loads for a sixty year service life.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Now I think what a dead low would be would be just what the roof weighs just sitting there under normal conditions nothing stressing it right? So it worked for 60 years for a 60-year service life. The original design for the glulam beams placed the beams stress limits at about 90% of its capacity which is a common stress limit for those types of building elements. That's the original design. Now, the original design was back in the mid-1960s. The engineer's report continues, however, since the original design, significant knowledge has been gained about deep glulam
Starting point is 00:08:45 members which has led to changes in woodcoats. These code changes led to a significantly reduced factor of safety in the glulam roof beams. Remember the glued laminate roof beams from the original design. That's kind of what Brad was talking about, remember? Mid-1960s there was a certain code, we knew a certain amount about what these roofs and what these beams were capable of doing. And then, once there was more experience, then they found out that, eh, boy, you can't stress them and bend them quite so much, and they end up probably... And by the way, the report, and if you want a copy of the report, just email me,
Starting point is 00:09:27 I'll send it to you, you know, it's out there in the public domain, but they show the pictures of the cracked beams and everything and, you know, if you're kind of geeking out on construction stuff, which I'm a little bit, you know, in that, it makes for interesting reading. But it said that these code changes, these code changes led to a significantly reduced factor of safety in the glulam roof beams from the original design. In other words, what looked really good in 1965 when they were putting the engineers' pen to paper back then wasn't safe by the time we got to 2025 and especially with the snow load.
Starting point is 00:10:02 The report reads here, when comparing the original design loads of the roof and using the current code requirements, including the reduced design values described in section D, the roof beam members would be about 10 percent overstressed under only dead loads. So under the new standards, the beams that were used in the North Medford High School gym in 1965, just sitting there under normal conditions, were 10% overstressed as it sat, or as it stood,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I guess I should say there. So for 60 years, there was that roof there, North Medford High School, and it was always overstressed. Now, the factor that made it come down in 2025, this year though, back in February, with that big, wet, gloppy snow, it was 10% overstressed under normal loads, just dead loads, just sitting there standing, and 46% overstressed under the dead weight plus 20 PSF snow load. I don't know what PSF stands, but that must have been the amount of PSF, PSF. Well, the load. The wet, gloppy snow is just, yeah, it was too much. and it's interesting to read that things have gotten much better in other words the standards have become much more strict since that time as they learned more about the beam so it really wasn't
Starting point is 00:11:35 as much as you know negligent or someone wasn't paying attention or whatever it is as the roof stood there normally North Medford High School's roof was 10% overstressed under today's standards. But in 1965, everybody thought, hey, it looked great. And in some ways, it stood 60 years and nobody thought anything about it. But I thought you'd like to know about that. If you want a copy of that report, just send me an email and I'll pop it back to you. Bill at BillMeyersShow.com.
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Starting point is 00:14:03 Lose weight or stop smoking with hypnosis, guaranteed. Sign up at markpatrickseminars.com. Hi, I'm Lisa with Pacific Survey Supply and I'm on KMED. Twenty-five minutes after six. By the way, thank you to Jude for text messaging me. I was going through this engineering report, the KPFF deal on the North Medford High School collapse which was released late last night and we find out this morning that by today's standards the roof was overstressed so for 60 something years that laminated that glued laminate wood beam that was holding up the roof was overstressed 10%
Starting point is 00:14:41 just as it stood there for all those years by today's standards because they ended up increasing the standards over time and that makes sense. That makes sense. And then when you added the 20 PSF snow load, I didn't know what the PSF snow load was and then Jude says, oh Bill that's pounds per square feet. Okay, so you had an additional 20 pounds per square foot of snow load. That's a heavy load. So you already took a 10% overstressed beam and then you added 20 pounds per square feet of snow load on top of it. And in that situation, there was a good chance of that coming down.
Starting point is 00:15:19 So there we go. 26 minutes after 6, if you have any comment on that, happy to talk to you. But of course I'm just happy to talk to you because it's Find Your Phone Friday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hi Bill, this is Vicki. Hey Vicki, what's going on this morning for you?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Oh, I just woke up. I actually slept in a little bit late. You're not allowed to do that. Not allowed to do that. Got to be up by at least 5.30. So we're ready and we're up and bright at 6. Yeah, well I'm 60 so. got one eye out that's bright. Hey I'm 63! What does that say? Come on you could do it. You could do it soldier! But anyway what's going on this
Starting point is 00:15:55 morning for you huh? So my husband's a contractor and he does roofing and decks and all kinds of stuff and I know know that a lot of the roofs at the schools are flat. And so I know it's more expensive because it still has went up. But why don't they just, if they're going to invest in rebuilding it, why don't they do it with a pitched metal roof with metal beams? And then they don't have to worry about it. Yeah, I don't know why they don't. Maybe it has to do, maybe it's a lot easier to have a flat one when you're talking about lots of HVAC units on top rather
Starting point is 00:16:36 than putting them on pitched roofs. I don't know, there must be some practical reason. Well, I know that back in the nineteen sixties I remember reading and another engineer has told me a lot of times that you know back then we just had so little snow snow issue doesn't tend to be an issue most of the time in southern oregon with very
Starting point is 00:16:57 rare exception. I mean even when it comes to rain we only get nineteen inches a year on average in the valley. That kind of thing. So I think that's why. Yeah, and that's true because a friend of mine has lived here all her life up in the Applegate and she said winters used to be very harsh and they've actually really mellowed out. So even since 1980, I really don't remember too many times when I lived in town that there was snow on the ground and I forgot about all the units that they put
Starting point is 00:17:29 up there. I wonder if they could like put them on the ground instead. I suppose they could but you know it's much easier I would imagine to put it up on the roof and that way you get the equipment out of the way of potential, what do we call, vandalism. Right. Well, they could still use, you know, metal beams inside and then just, you know, do the flat roof on the top. Well, wood isn't wood anymore. Like, I worked at a mill and they have layers and layers like the particle board stuff. And it just isn't the quality that it used to be. Back in the 60s, obviously, they had better wood.
Starting point is 00:18:14 And so... Well, you're dealing with a lot more or older growth, I would imagine. But they've done amazing stuff with that glued laminate. But even then, they said the standards of the 1960s were just weaker than they should have. Well, in other words, we just know more. We've had more experience with the glued laminate beams since that time and realizing that they can't quite take as much bending. It's really the bending was the capacity issue and then you end up starting getting the fractures going on and the cracks in it. And so that's why they reduced the capacity issue and then you end up starting getting the fractures, you know, going on
Starting point is 00:18:45 and the cracks in it. And so that's why they reduced the capacity. So you'd have to have a bigger beam to do the same thing that the North Medford High School roof had at that time. And I'm not surprised about it. I guess in some ways we were lucky that there was not a problem for 60 years. But boy, when the problem came, it came big time didn't it? Well not only that but in order to get bigger beams like real wood you have to cut down like you said old growth and a lot of people have
Starting point is 00:19:14 issues with that nowadays. There was a story my mom told me at Christmas time about a Christmas tree and there was a giant pine and then there was a baby pine that was next to it and the baby pine wanted to grow up and be a Christmas tree and the big pine said, you don't want to be a Christmas tree because at the end of the season they throw you in the gutter and you get taken away and burned. Well the little tree decided that he didn't want to be a Christmas tree and he grew up and built someone's house and the big tree said if you do that you'll live on for a long time. Well it's a nice little bit of
Starting point is 00:19:55 timber lore right from our collective childhood here. So I feel privileged to be able to look and just see timber every day. So I love wood and I think if they are going to rebuild it with wood, they really need to use wood. All right. Appreciate the opinion, Vicki. Thank you for that. It is 631. Actually, I don't know what they're using. I don't know what their spec is. I haven't paid much attention to the actual nuts and bolts of that one. I'll take a look at it. Is it going to be wood, metal, roof? I don't know. As they rebuild the gym. I just know they're going to start.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It's 631 at KMED. Other news this morning here. Daily Courier reporting that Josephine County Library District, or Community Library District, rather, is asking for the county to renew the $1 a year lease at the downtown one. So, irresistible force meets immovable object, I think is what we see being set up here. And the county needs money, and a dollar a year doesn't really cut it. And of course, naturally, the library district wants as good a deal as it can have. And they're saying, well, you know, the charter says that the county is supposed to be supporting the library, even though the library is not a function of the county government specifically
Starting point is 00:21:23 anymore. It has its particular taxing district. Hopefully they can get this one figured out. Chris Barnett's the point person on this one. We'll see. But a buck a year, come on, come on, library. You can kick in a little bit. Maybe we can put away some of those books that the parents are complaining about already, maybe buy a few fewer of those. No, I guess you can't do that. I don't want to get in that argument. All right, let's check the rest of the news coming up here. And then we have this situation, which has been breaking out in Virginia, in which a trans boy, I guess you would call it, in other words a female, biological female, claiming to be a male, has been in the locker rooms of the boys, and the boys there have been upset about it,
Starting point is 00:22:16 and the girl has also been videotaping inside there. And now they're really getting upset. We'll have a parental advocate on to talk about that here in just a minute. Just weirdness, stuff that you never thought you'd hear about going on in government school. It's amazing. Hi, this is Bill Meyer and I'm with Charisse
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Starting point is 00:23:44 The alleged shooter, 38-year-old William Triplett of Medford. He was captured 15 minutes after the shooting by police near Tinseltown and the Medford Center based on witness descriptions. Police say triplet of the victim who know each other had a verbal dispute that turned into a fight and ended with the shooting. A southern Oregon structure fire led to the discovery of an illegal pot grow. The Josephine County Marijuana Enforcement Team seized over 1,300 marijuana plants. They say the fire started in the electrical wiring, which bypassed the meter to illegally supply power to the grow operation.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Oregonians registered to vote should have received their ballot by now for the May 20th election. If you haven't received your ballot in the mail, you're asked to contact your local county elections office. The ballots have to be postmarked by May 20th and arrive by May 27th. Bill London, KMED. 635 Keiths and Cave Junction. Keith, you went on the way in on the the beam conversation we were talking about that engineering report now out on the North Medford High School collapse. What were you thinking? that engineering report now out on the North Medford High School collapse. What were you thinking? Well my comment is regarding to beams that were used in Central Point at Scenic, in middle school, Scenic Junior High, in
Starting point is 00:24:57 this late 60s. They built that middle school using monstrously large laminated beams in the gymnasium and I'm not sure about elsewhere. I'm just wondering if that equipment, those beams have been inspected? And they possibly be inspected properly? Yeah, I don't know.'t know. I would imagine though, out of an abundance of caution, that practically every school district using any kind of those of these glue laminated beams, especially the 1960s when the standards were quite a bit lower than now, today's standards, I'd be willing to bet you, Keith, that the facilities managers are looking at it for sure okay? Hopefully I've stirred the pot. Alright, thanks Keith.
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Starting point is 00:28:05 Terry, tell us a little bit about the American Principles Project first, okay? Well, I'm really blessed. I run American Principles Project, and we're like the NRA, but we don't do guns. We do parental rights and the innocence of children. So we run campaign ads and elections to help elect good pro-family guys.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And then we also legislate and help lobby members of Congress to make sure that our families are at the forefront of our policy discussions. Yeah. Seems like families get shuttered aside or shuffled aside now and then, especially in public schools. Is it just me or public schools seem to be especially where family interest in what parents actually want seems to be, I don't know, second or third rate. No, that's right.
Starting point is 00:28:49 There's been a real shift in, I would say, about the last 16, 17 years where the schools are now kind of weaponized against parents. They think that they're above parents and that they have to keep parents in line and that it's, you know, Terry McAuliffe, a guy that lost the to keep parents in line. And that, you know, Terry McAuliffe, a guy that lost the governor's race in 2021 in Virginia, he got, you know, he lost because he said, I don't think parents should be telling schools what to teach. You know, it's a big departure from when I was growing up. When I was growing up, my parents and our teachers had a partnership. You know, they worked together and they had
Starting point is 00:29:22 to work really, really hard together in order to keep kids like me in line because I was kind of a bad kid. But they were teamed up and they were cooperative. But at the end of the day, they knew that the kids belonged to the parents and that they were helping the parents teach the kids. It's just not the same as what it used to be. Yeah. Well, there was also more trust and I think it's because there was less insanity out of the academy in those days. And I remember a lot of the teachers that I ended up going to school with at this point, just good solid citizenry. And I would also add that a lot of them were Korean War or World War II veterans too, if they were male teachers too. So there
Starting point is 00:30:05 was an interesting balance and a lot of that has been lost since those days and I don't want to be one of those guys that says you know back in the 60s and 70s it was so much better because I had to tell you the rot was coming into the system even back then Terry. It really was. We just didn't recognize it at the time. No that's right and these things the time. No, that's right. And these things tend to build off of each other, right? You take one wrong step and now you're even further off course. And you can take even more wrong steps trying to get back on track. And I think America is just, I think our real problem is we've taken a series of wrong turns and we've built an economy where
Starting point is 00:30:43 both parents have to work now. Right? So they have less energy, they have less time to really pay attention to what's going on in the schools. You know, I know there's this feminist narrative that women were second-class citizens for all of American history, until they entered the workforce. But the reality is moms ran the show in our local communities. They kept all of our libraries and our schools running.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I mean, they were really calling so many of our shots. And as American women went into the workforce, there's really been no one watching out for our kids in schools. And it's really fallen behind. And since those days now, we've almost been conditioned to completely turn everything over about our children over to the professional, so-called professional educators class. And there's been an issue. They all have a thumb on the idea, on a left-wing ideology. It's not been real helpful. Now, not all. There are some. I'm not
Starting point is 00:31:36 tar on the whole thing, but majority, especially what's coming out of the teaching schools these days. Now, I wanted to focus on this story coming out of the Loudoun County Public Schools system. Could you tell me a bit about what's going on here? Because we know that there's craziness in Oregon public schools. In fact, we have a state representative, Dwayne Younger, who was reading passages from school books in the school library and she and he was more or less shouted down as now being investigated because he was reading these these smutty book deals on the floor of the state legislature and it was considered so improper there but it's okay to take packed taxpayer dollars and buy the books and force them to be there and you're not supposed to question that. So those are
Starting point is 00:32:27 the kind of battles we're facing here. Now Loudoun public or Loudoun County public schools in Virginia, this is a big deal. This is with a teenage girl but what identifying as a male, is this the deal? Yes sir and what makes this case unique, especially in Loudoun County, so Loudoun County has had a series of sexual assaults in the school bathrooms, but these have been perpetrated by young men who claim to be women in the women's locker room. This case in Loudoun County is interesting because it's three boys who have complained to the school because there's a girl who says she's a boy that's changing in front of them and is around them while they're changing and while they're vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You know, we don't often see the boys speaking up and the boys saying how uncomfortable they are. But where this gets really sick and twisted is rather than hearing these boys out and their concerns about feeling safe and comfortable, they've actually filed a Title IX complaint against the boys, which is a sexual harassment claim, because they were the ones complaining about feeling uncomfortable. So they're essentially treating these normal boys and girls in these schools who are upset about the opposite sex, people changing in their locker rooms and in showers, they're the bad guys. They're, they're essentially using civil rights law, which was, you know, created to get rid of systemic racism from our country. So they're trying to turn these
Starting point is 00:33:55 guys into like the Ku Klux Klan type. We know for a fact though, that these are normal people, they're very good, their concerns are valid, and that these new gender identities are just, they're personalities, and sometimes they're mental disorders, and that's okay. We gotta get people the right help and be compassionate and loving towards them, but the whole system's on its head right now. This is totally backwards.
Starting point is 00:34:20 From what I understand, could you correct me if I'm wrong, this teenage girl who identifies as a boy in the boy's locker room, she was videotaping them in the locker room, wasn't she? Yes, sir. And that's part of the complaint. It's absolutely insane. America is actively developing this two-tiered justice system where the perpetrators are being viewed as the victims and where the victims are viewed as the perpetrators. Well you know what they call that it's a Mr. Marxist revolution and this is the where's the counter-revolution I guess is what I'm asking at this point Terry maybe that's
Starting point is 00:34:58 where we need to be focused. Well I do think that that's very much coming here very soon. These lawsuits especially especially these Title IX complaints, they're totally new. And we have a new sheriff in town. I think there's a lot of hope and optimism because President Trump is the first president we've ever had that's fought back against these guys. And he's actually been the first president that's withholding federal dollars from states like Maine, who are putting men and girls sports, men and women's prisons, men and women's lockrooms and showers. So we have an advocate in the White House.
Starting point is 00:35:34 President Trump and his administration run the Civil Rights Division of Title IX at the Department of Education. So I think we'll get a good ruling here. We have to come down on these people, though. The whole point of the federal government, of why you have a government in the first place, is to secure our rights. And the federal government is there to secure our rights when the local governments become corrupted and tyrannical. These local governments do not have full control. They do not have the right to terrorize our young boys and girls in our schools. The federal government needs to make sure that these local governments
Starting point is 00:36:08 and these local schools are protecting our kids. They don't have a right to abuse them. You know it's interesting Terry, by the way Terry Schilling is with me. He's the president of the American Principles Project, americanprinciplesproject.org. There was a part of me that was kind of hoping that President Trump would be able to ride herd on the Oregon Department of Education because really what ends up happening is that we have local school boards, but so much of the local school board power has been leaked away by legislation over the years and most of the time the school board ends up seeming to be you're elected then to rubber stamp and implement state policy. And of course
Starting point is 00:36:50 state policy is gender affirming care, transgender this, LGBTQ that, and open borders this, and climate change, you know, climate change, human problems, you know, we got to be inculcated into this. That's kind of where it comes. My question for you, because from what I understand, you pulled your own kids out of the public school system there. I think you had quite a few, right? Didn't you?
Starting point is 00:37:15 Yeah, we have seven children. We pulled them all out of public school. You've been busy. Okay. Yeah, we get that. I guess my state senator, well, a state senator, I should say, Noah Robinson, I was just talking with him about this yesterday, and he's on the Education Committee. He's sitting there trying to work the problem, and he says, we're trying to
Starting point is 00:37:37 find a way to fix this, but the only practical solution at this point is to pull them out, though, isn't it? Unfortunately, for all this we can talk about the you know the the girls in the boys bathrooms and the boys in the girls bathrooms and everything else, but it's still a public school problem isn't it? Just it's like systemic, a systemic illness at the moment. What do you think? No I think that's right you know our kids are not guinea pigs right? We have to protect our pearls. We cannot cast them amongst wine. So we've got to protect our pearls. We cannot cast them amongst wine. So we've got to get our kids out of these schools, and we've got to look at alternatives.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And I do think that, especially Christians, and really anyone that loves their country, if you love America, we should be building up our own infrastructure, right? But we can't give up on the public schools, for the longest time we will be having the most amount of kids going to public schools. If you go to the states that have done universal school choice, which I fully support, they have a very low participation rate from parents. It goes back to that problem that I highlighted earlier, which is parents are just too darn busy. But you've got to start focusing on your kids. But if you love your kids, if you're a practicing Christian, you have to get your kids out because
Starting point is 00:38:49 they're being taught by different authorities, authorities that hate you and want to turn against you. But there are alternatives, there are co-ops, there are homeschooling networks, and there are also, you know, good private schools that you can send your kids to. But we can't give up. We have to clean up these public schools and get out the rot. Because look, even if you've got a majority of kids going to private and good schools, you still are going to have to deal with all these people that are being indoctrinated and abused mentally and even physically in these cases. Well, I would also add ill-educated Oregon, unfortunately, is in the mid-40s,
Starting point is 00:39:27 depending on who you're looking at, for educational achievement. And I can't help but think that perhaps focus on ideology has a contributory factor in this. I don't know for sure at this point, but it would be interesting if they could get to the bottom of that. Well, I don't think there's a coincidence
Starting point is 00:39:44 that only a third of American children can read or do math at grade level if they could get to the bottom of that. Well, I don't think there's a coincidence that, you know, only a third of American children can read or do math at grade level, according to the official National Assessment for Educational Progress. That's our nation's report card. These things tend to replace the critical subject matters that we send our kids to school. So if you're going to teach kids that men can have babies
Starting point is 00:40:03 and all this crazy stuff. And by the way, boys men straight too. And so you need tampons in the boys room, which they do in Oregon. It's absolutely insane. But these things, you know, you only have kids for so long in school, right? And you got to, you're taking out a math class, you're taking out an English class, you're taking out books, like, you're taking out books like classical literature.
Starting point is 00:40:26 We have all of these amazing books that have been written throughout history that have stood the test of time. And we're taking out those books and we're putting in books like Tammy Has Two Mommies. Do you think here, Terry, do you think though that this issue here, this issue with boys wanting to be women that are in the girls' locker room, girls that want to be boys that are in the boys' locker room, is this the first step to restoring some sanity? Is this the hill that you just have to defend upon all others? I think that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:41:04 This whole transgender insanity in our kids' schools, this is the easiest battle we're gonna get, right? It only gets more difficult if we let this fight go, but this is obviously against reality, it's obviously against truth, and it's obviously causing harm to these kids. If we can't win against the people that say that men can
Starting point is 00:41:25 have babies, I don't know what battle we can win. You know what I mean? Yeah, you would think that this one, getting the girls out of the boys room and getting the boys out of the girls room, you think that would be the easiest thing of all. And it's surprisingly, I guess the system is surprisingly resistant to actually listen to parents on this particular one. It's not that it's resistant, it's actually that the toughest battle here is not that we're up against the smartest most powerful people. I mean we are up against very wealthy and powerful people with tons of money. The real
Starting point is 00:41:58 problem has been it's been tough to get people to stand up, but I'll tell you that stuff's changing. President Trump is on the front lines. He's talking about this issue every single day. He, and by the way, I had a chance to meet him last summer and I got to show him some of the polling and the vote impact. He knows that this is a winning issue and he used them in the campaign. So these politicians just need to understand, if you want to win your election, if you want to get reelected, you got to start fighting on this stuff. This is how you win. This is how you show your voters that these Democrats are absolutely nuts.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah. Terry Schilling with me once again, President of the American Principles Project, AmericanPrinciplesProject.org. Hey, before we take off here, Terry, I'll send people over to your website, see what they're, what you're thinking and everything else that's going on. I noticed that you are a devout Catholic. You must have an opinion of the new Pope, or maybe you don't, I don't know. Conservative Catholics that I've written to or written and asked them about, they're not real pleased at the moment. Do you have an opinion yet? I'm very hopeful and optimistic. I've seen, look, he's had some tweets
Starting point is 00:43:02 where he's talking about having compassionate policies on immigration and migrants, but he also has very conservative beliefs on abortion and protecting the unborn and protecting children from gender ideology. And I also think, look, you can tell a lot about these popes by the name that they choose, right? Because this is a tradition, it kind of gives you a look into the flavor that they're going for and who they're going to emulate. Pope Leo XIV comes after Pope Leo XIII, who introduced the St. Michael's Prayer, which is all about asking St. Michael and God to protect us from the devil. It's a very hardcore Catholic prayer. But on top of that, Pope Leo XIII produced an encyclical called
Starting point is 00:43:46 Rerum Navarum. He was the first pope to actively criticize communism. He also criticized the negative aspects of capitalism, but Rerum Navarum really went hard against communism, and so I think it's really timely. I love the name. I'm very hopeful and optimistic. I think people need to wait and see before making too many judgments. Okay. Terry, that's why I wanted to ask you. You being a Catholic, I thought you'd be the one rather than me. Okay? But you be well. Good talking with you and we'll have you back. Take care. Thank you. 655. This is KMED in 99.3 KBXG. If you're searching for a property with a well, don't make a decision without a well flow test
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Starting point is 00:47:00 It's called the STIF payroll tax. Democrats want to increase it fivefold. So Democrats want to take the transit tax, which I think we've been paying for, what, the last six, seven, eight years, something like that. They want to quintuple it. Yeah. Oregon lawmakers debating a sweeping transportation funding package, a key question is to how much should go to public transit?
Starting point is 00:47:28 Now, of course, the challenge, as we now know, when you actually talk to the transit districts, is that people are riding it less, but they're also running out of money. Some Democrats are backing a proposal to gradually raise the Statewide Transportation Improvement Fund, the STIF payroll tax, to keep buses running and expand service. But a competing House Republican proposal would eliminate transit funding entirely and redirect the tax revenue to roads and bridges. Well, we wouldn't want to do that, Republicans, right? Roads and bridges, I mean, that just makes sense. As it is right now, Oregon has a 0.1 percent, so one-tenth of one percent payroll tax. So if you pay somebody, what is it, $100,000 a year, let's say nice payroll, you have to pay what,
Starting point is 00:48:18 $100 bucks? Yeah, $100 bucks for that employee, you have to do this. Yeah, a hundred bucks for that employee. You have to do this. OPB says Oregon's 0.1% payroll tax for public transit hasn't increased. It hasn't increased since it was enacted in 2017. The tax hasn't increased in eight years. What? Wait a minute. How are you supposed to function without the tax rate increasing? Oh no! Sorry I'm being sarcastic, but I just love the bias, the way that story is told right
Starting point is 00:48:55 from the beginning. The public, the payroll tax has increased since it was enacted. In addition, pandemic era federal grants for transit ending. Yeah, we know about that. All the COVID funny money, all the ARPA stuff that's going away. It was all borrowed into existence anyway. But we have Senator ConFauM from Portland, a Democrat, sponsoring legislation that would phase in an increase to reach a half of percent. A half of percent. So what the Democrats plan to backfill public transit, which fewer people are writing, you look at the ridership, I still don't think
Starting point is 00:49:35 we're at ridership, which is above where it was prior to COVID. I don't believe so. I'll have to check those RVTD stats here because I used to be able to get all those rider stats pretty quickly, but I don't believe that they have increased. And I still think that there are fewer people riding the bus now than they are than they were riding now, but they need more money, ever more money, because we must. And by the way, there is necessity for this. Public transit does fulfill the role. But what they want to do, what the Democrats want to do is five times, make the tax five times as big. So essentially what they want to do, and I did the math on this, they want to take about one and a half, maybe two days salary from every employer, every employee that they have, they're going
Starting point is 00:50:26 to take two days of their pay and send it to the transit districts. Does that make sense to you? That's really what they want to do. That's what the Democrats want to do, make it five times bigger. So we can take it from people who aren't necessarily riding transit, take one and a half days pay, maybe up to two days pay over time, and send it to the state of Oregon for the transit districts. Perfect sense, right? Sure. It doesn't matter if people aren't riding the bus, we're going to make you pay for it good and hard, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That's the way they're looking at it. But maybe what's what they're thinking about long term is that, that's all right, you'll be in your little stack and pack, cloud-swap, climate-friendly, equitable community. You won't need a car. Then you won't mind the transit tax, right? Maybe that's what they're thinking. You know, those Democrats, they're really good at quintupling your taxes. This is the Bill Maier Show.

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