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Friday, May 16th,
News Talk one oh six three KMED.
You're waking up with the Bill Myers Show.
All right. Three minutes after seven.
I appreciate you wake it up here and and also appreciate you
putting up with me as I'm trying to understand
this prior authorization issue that I really wasn't quite as familiar with in the drug world
with Tim Keller from usdiabetescare.com. It's just like, okay, I'm thinking you have a prescription,
that's all that should matter. Oh, no, no, no, it's what the pharmacy benefit manager
and the insurance company will agree to also pay whether you should be permitted to get it. Okay, yeah, yeah, I get that. Now that part I understand and I've not had
to deal with it personally because I only have one pharmaceutical drug that I take and it was just a
touch of, oh I get a pre-beat thing. I've had something like that develop a number of years ago
and a little bit hereditary in my family a little bit. The pre-beat thing, I've had something like that develop a number of years ago and a little bit
hereditary in my family a little bit. The pre-beat thing, I forget exactly what it's called, PVECs or
something. And it's just, it's not arrhythmia, but it's a type of arrhythmia, right? So I get a little
bit and I take a tiny dose once a day of metroprolol. And metroprolol is dirt cheap. It's been out there since the late 1960s, you know, and that's it.
I take a little bit of that.
I feel very fortunate.
I haven't had to do much more than that.
But yeah, I don't have a big pharmaceutical presence in my life here.
And so I don't understand necessarily the way it is for other people who do have to
go out and buy lots of insulin and various
other drugs. Now there are drugs for my mother who does have some issues here
in her mid 80s and yeah I see some of that going on but it's it's different.
Okay so I well it's an educational process for me too sometimes. All right
let me grab a quick line here. Hi good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hi Bill this
is Tom here. Hey Tom how you doing? Oh good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hi Bill, this is Tom here.
Hey Tom, how you doing?
Oh, just fine.
As a natural practitioner, I divorced myself from all insurance companies about a dozen
years ago.
I see the whole insurance pharmaceutical BMS as just legalized racketeering. At one point I had a car accident. So just as kind
of a final experiment on my own part, I sent in a bill running about maybe 10-15% of the
normal charges and the insurance company sent back, well, we're
going to have to reduce this and this and this. And I could have easily, you
know, quadrupled many times over the bills legally. In other words,
what you're telling me, Tom, is that in the insurance mafia world, then practitioners have to practically over inflate their bill
in order to get it cut back to something reasonable.
Is that how that works?
Yeah, that's part of the whole gaming that's going on.
The other big part of it is what I call the coding war.
And if you send in certain bills under different numbers, you're going to have a different
payment schedule and so forth.
And the codes are constantly changing.
They come out every year with different codes.
They have codes that are different.
If you walked into a parking meter, that's one code.
If you walk into a telephone pole, that's another code.
I mean, it's that ridiculous. Wow. And if I understand correctly, those codes are owned by the American
Medical Association, aren't they? Yeah. I don't know. I just stopped the whole thing,
and you know, a dozen years ago. To me, it me, it's just, it's criminal what's going on.
A racket from top to bottom, a bottom from the sounds of it in your world.
Yeah, the whole healthcare system needs to be healed. And it's just rotten racketeering
at this point in time. You got, you know, I've seen it where at one point you got the doctors,
you got the patients, you got the lawyers, you got the insurance company, and they're all vying to be on top of the pile.
And I've seen through the years where the doctors were raping the insurance industry,
then insurance came up, and they're in charge and they're telling the doctors what to do.
Lawyers come in, the pharmacy, I mean, it is, it's like a no-man's land in terms of healthcare.
Thanks for sharing that issue there, Tom. Got to roll, but we'll have you back on.
Roll on ahead.
All right. Thank you. It is great. Catch up on town hall news here in just a moment.
Then I talk with a Gateway Pundit contributor about a Ukraine Trump assassination connection.
Yep, that is supposedly that's what he's claiming.
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Alright, operator error. Hey, it's Monday morning and sometimes the coffee doesn't quite kick in here.
Let me talk with Jason Sullivan. I'm proud to bring him on here.
He is a contributor at large for the Gateway Pundit.
He's the founder and publisher of Unleashed.News, which I was over at a little earlier.
And he's also the founder of Results Incorporated.com.
And he is the lead investigator specializing in open-source intelligence
and forensic investigations for Peter Tichtton, President Trump's lead Florida attorney
and that's over at the Tickton Law Group. Jason, you are one busy boy. Welcome to
the show. Good morning. Good morning, Bill. What a great pleasure to be on your show
this morning. Indeed. You have a piece up on Gateway Pundit which is stirring the
imagination and how we've
noted that all roads, especially when it comes to hinky and corruption, grift, graft, whatever,
seems to lead to Ukraine. And what you have brought to the Gateway Pundit recently is a piece
discussing a Ukraine connection with one of the Trump assassination attempts. I'd love to find out more about this. What got you into it?
Yes sir. Well what got me into this is I dipped my toe in the water and I've
never been able to turn back. That started back in 2014 and then I played a
small role behind the scenes to help President Trump get elected in 2016 and
it just you get immersed and more immersed and
then you realize how dark and depraved the opposition can be and it's hard to walk away.
So right now we've got a latest third attempt, assassination attempt against our president.
This one involves a very deranged 17 year old named Nikita Ksap.
And this young man ends up getting caught up
into some of these chat groups,
encrypted online chat groups and whatnot,
and telegram groups in Nazi chat groups.
And some of these groups are actually definitely borderline,
if not completely,
toward tip towards, you know, satanic type of chat groups.
So these are very demanded type people, not stable.
They are breeding grounds for recruitment for terrorist type organizations that might
be looking for people that they can tip to do terrible things.
And in this particular case, Nikita Kasep, 17-year-old, young impressionable young man,
was chatting with people overseas.
Now, we have the way that we know this is there was a 26-page FBI affidavit which was
recently released.
I don't even think that it's registered or indexed yet in Pacer, but we were able to
find it.
That goes back to our open source intelligence searching and digging. And I'll get to that.
But basically anything and all things World Wide Web, if it's out there and it leaks,
we can find it, typically.
So we find this 26 page FBI affidavit regarding an investigation and a warrant into this young
man's cell phone.
So there has been a forensic investigation into his communications in the cell phone. Now, in this particular case, he's speaking with people overseas, and in the 26-page affidavit,
there is a phone number that we recognize.
Sometimes they forget to black something out.
This might be one of those cases.
So, there's a phone number that this young man was speaking with that was attached to
a Telegram account.
So, we took that number, we reversed it, and we were able to find out that the country
code 380 is Ukraine.
That's the country code for Ukraine.
And then the next two numbers in that cell phone are 50, which are an indication that
it is a cellular phone on the Vodafone network, which if'm not mistaken is the largest if not one of the largest cellular networks in Ukraine
so now we know that this young man is speaking to
individuals over in Ukraine or at least with a Ukrainian cell phone number and
It turns out that one of these individuals there was at least two of them
He was speaking with over in Ukraine that were acting as his handlers
Now when I say that I'm talking about actually plotting with him, plotting and giving guidance
to this young, impressionable, demented young man who ended up murdering his own parents,
murdered his own mother, murdered his stepfather, stole the stepfather's vehicle.
Yeah, $14,000 cash and he wanted to get a militarized drone to attack the president.
Yeah.
Yes, sir.
So, a very sick young man, but at the same time, he's impressionable, of course.
He's not stable.
He's dealing in these chat groups, which are breeding grounds for recruitment.
So you have a couple of handlers here giving him clear instructions on how to hide the bodies of his parents and how to evade detection of law enforcement by switching
out the tags on his stepfather's vehicle when he stole it. He stole $14,000, as you
said, and he was attempting to purchase a militarized, weaponized drone. Now, let me
tell you, weaponized drones are used every single day in war, especially over in Ukraine. And some of these drones are kamikaze
drones where they fly right into their targets including soldiers or
individuals or people. And some are a little larger with larger payloads that
can fly at kamikaze right into a tank, take out an entire tank. There are
other car-sized drones. You know. There are other car-sized drones.
You know, we heard about mysterious car-sized drones flying over New Jersey
not too long ago, but there are car-sized drones that have been flown
into high-rise buildings and they take out entire floors. So these are a
real threat and this young man is coordinating and plotting to purchase one
of these weaponized drones so that he could, his intention was to drop a bomb on our president and hopefully to take out our vice president
at the same time.
That is rather disturbing.
Is there any evidence or any way to determine here, by the way, I'm talking with Jason Sullivan, but he's a Gateway Pundit piece here.
Is there any way to determine if this cell phone number, which had the Ukraine country
code and on the Vodafone network, is there any way to connect this with a government
intelligence operation of any sort, whether it's Russia, Ukraine, some other member of the Five Eyes.
I mean, I don't discount anything in this world these days, Jason.
I would imagine you can't either as an investigator.
No longer these days.
You know, I would have to say that we're going to have to see
what our intelligence community comes back with.
Our president was informed about this immediately as soon as we picked this up.
And then a couple of days later, we went ahead with a story subsequent to that for security
reasons and published it in the Gateway Pundit.
Let me touch on that.
You've got other attempts here.
There's a lot of reoccurring themes here that are purely leading back to Ukraine for some
strange reason.
Now, that's the third assassination attempt.
What about the first one?
Okay, you've got Thomas Matthew Crooks.
We know hardly anything about that young man.
He's a 20 year old, impressionable young man that actually took shots at our president
and shot him in the head in a year.
And then the FBI was up on the roof washing the roof, you know, shortly thereafter.
And then they cremated him shortly thereafter without any congressional approval or the
Congress had to find out the hard way.
Yeah, nothing to see move along, right?
Yeah, that kind of thing.
Nothing to see move along, that kind of reaction, right?
Yes.
And here's the other thing.
The FBI did admit that Thomas Matthew Crooks was also communicating on encrypted networks.
And beyond that, that he was communicating on encrypted networks on servers located overseas.
But we don't know, the American people don't know which encrypted networks he was speaking
on because the FBI has not told us.
We don't know which foreign servers that he was communicating through because the FBI
has not told us.
However, in this third assassination attempt, we have a NASA David
that is under a new Department of Justice now, and it has actually disclosed which servers
and which communications networks he was communicating with and which handles and phone numbers he
was communicating with. So, it's night and day difference on the type of reporting that
we're getting now with this new Department of Justice. Now, we have, you know, reversed
that phone number as well. We actually have unmasked who that individual is.
We have found out that that phone number is still connected to a telegram account.
And in telegram accounts, there are security settings.
And you can fail to opt out to include additional personal information if you're not careful.
And in this particular case, we think that's what may have happened. So this particular case with this phone number 380502595318, this is public
information. We're not doxing anybody here. This was in a 26 page FBI
affidavit which is publicly available. If you go search it, you can't find it. I
highly recommend you come into the Gateway Pundit and find my article. Just
type in third would be assassin and you'll find the article and you'll see the affidavit
for yourself. Don't believe what I'm telling you? Go research this on your own. But when
you find out, you'll see that this phone number actually is tied to a telegram account
that is attached to a person named Roman Viktorovich, okay, which is Krillik and it's Ukrainian.
Okay. Now let's go back to the second assassination attempts. What about Ryan Wesley Roth?
Remember him the blonde guy that was out of the Carolina's? Yeah. Yeah the older guy the older guy that one. Yes, sir
Okay. Yeah, very good again unstable individual
very unstable individual
Was indigent lived in a bedroom out of Hawaii at the time, and
somehow found the wherewithal or the means to globetrot and go back and forth to Ukraine.
And we don't know how many times he was in Ukraine, but we do know for a fact that he
was in Ukraine because we have him in videos, we have him in images, we have him documented
that he was interviewed by several individuals. We actually even have him in a propaganda video that he was seen in. The internet went abuzz trying to say
that it was a BlackRock video because Thomas Matthew Cux, the first assassination attempt,
was seen in a BlackRock video. However, the video that Ryan Wesley Roth was seen in, he
investigated it and found out the origin of its initial being
published. And that actually goes back to a production propaganda arm of the Azov Battalion.
So Ryan Leslie Roth was seen in the propaganda video that was produced by the Azov Battalion.
Now the Azov Battalion, those are the Nazis in Ukraine, right?
Yes. They are the Nazis at the tip of the spear that have been fighting against the
Russian separatists, quote unquote, since day one. And this all goes back to 2014 to a little
thing called the Euro-Made Revolution. So there's a lot of very interesting connections here that I
think that your audience is going to be very interested in to look into. Now, Ryan Wesley Roth, he's seen over in Ukraine recruiting
militias to fight in the war against Russia. This indigent individual that has a very expensive
rap sheet for small crimes, drugs, guns, weapons, he's indigent, somehow over in Ukraine recruiting
militias to fight in it. in Ukraine, recruiting militias to fight
in it.
Who are you recruiting militias for?
Who was he working with?
And then we see that he's actually in this Azov battalion, you know, promotional propaganda
video.
And then he shows up in West Palm Beach to assassinate our president.
Now, let me ask you the key question here.
How did he know that our president was going to play golf that day?
Well, probably someone on the inside leaking it.
Well, here's the other thing. And I do have a couple of connections here and there. I could
be wrong. However, my information tells me that the president's decision to play golf that day was
a last minute decision. And if that's the case, and Ryan Wesley lost with waiting and late,
and laying in wait for him on the fifth hole at the golf course
How did he know he's going to be there that would mean as you say that there's somebody on the inside that gave that information
There's no other way and so we've got a lot of eerie connections here and
Something that's even more eerie this Nikita K. Step the third assassination attempt
He's communicating with these handlers over in Ukraine and he even asked at one point, he says, what about the other 10? Are they
like me or are they different? What other 10?
What the other 10 Manchurian candidates? Is that what we're looking at here, you think?
Yeah. So you can bet your bottom dollar when there's recruitment camps and there are recruitment
camps, terrorist type of organization and actions okay we've got Minnesota's actually the
number one state-grown home stateside recruitment camp for ISIS okay that
that started a long time ago so they are recruitment camps and they do work
inside these chat groups to recruit unstable individuals so that's that's
that's a real thing so you can bet your bottom dollar that they're recruiting
more than one unstable individual okay so when he says there's 10 others, who are they?
And so I hope and pray that our intelligence community and the cash fatalities have heard
of these interviews and that he's actually looking into this directly because the FBI
in this Nikita Kassab case actually has looked into a cell phone. So we need to be talking
to the individual, Roman Viktorovich, whoovich who belongs to and hopefully that's already been
well underway. Now you've got one more last connection here. Do I have a minute?
Sure. Okay. Now you have this other individual. If everybody remembers the
Tesla bomber in Las Vegas. Yes. Okay. The Tesla bomber in Las Vegas. Yes. Okay the Tesla bomber in Las Vegas his name is Matt
Leibelsberger. Matt Leibelsberger is former military. Guess what? He was a drone
specialist. Interesting. Okay and we find him in open source through social media.
We find him in a picture with his girlfriend or fiance. He's wearing a
t-shirt with an interesting emblem on it and we zoom in on this particular emblem, and you can find this at the gateway planet as
well and verify it for yourselves.
But Matt Leibelsberger, who detonated a Tesla, suicided himself at the front door of the
Trump Tower with all sorts of weird stories going on about how he was some type of Trump
supporter sending
a message.
That's crazy.
This man was wearing a t-shirt with an emblem on it.
We blew it up.
We cleaned up the image forensically and it was in a foreign language.
So we transcribed it and the message on his t-shirt that he's wearing with his fiancee
says glory to Ukraine.
Wow. Everything to Ukraine. Wow.
Everything is Ukraine.
And do you think this is actually being, I'm just asking for some speculation on your part
here and I know Jason that's hard when you're doing investigative reporting, but is this
Ukraine running this or someone that wants to pin it on Ukraine in your particular view. I think back to how closely or how quickly that, um,
Volodymyr Zelensky ended up getting together with the Biden administration and
really getting buddy buddy at first.
And it's been a much cooler relationship between Zelensky and Trump.
Any thoughts on that?
There's no question about that.
If you really want to get to the crux and the genesis of the entire thing, look back
to 2014, called the Euro-Made Revolution, where the Obama administration, without question,
was heavily involved, heavy-handed, involved with having influence on a coup that took
place in Ukraine in 2014.
This is all documented. You've got Victoria
Nuland that's caught on a hot wire where her phones were tapped within a
State Department talking about, you know, screw the EU. We're gonna pick who the
next president of Ukraine is going to be, type of thing. That was out there, okay?
We had John McCain that was over there on Ukrainian soil speaking to
hundreds of thousands of protesters, encouraging
them to overthrow their own government on their own soil.
This took place.
This is all well documented.
You've got Lindsey Graham over there talking with the Azov Battalion folks about how they're
going to provide them all the support that they need and all the weapons that they need. And then, surely enough, there was a riot, eerily similar
to a January 6th, and there were instigators mixed into the crowd, pushing people into
police officers, instigating things. Snipers even began shooting indiscriminately into
both protesters and police officers. You have to think about that one. Okay? Why would snipers shoot into
both protesters and police officers? And the only reason for that is to amplify it, amplify
the situation. So you had an overthrow of a government there with Victoria, I mean,
Victor Yanukovych was the president. It was duly elected. The United States even acknowledged
that that was a fair election. And then he gets overthrown and a puppet gets installed, Petro Poroshenko, another oligarch,
because they love the oligarch so much.
And Petro Poroshenko is known as the Chocolate King.
He was a puppet and he was installed by the Obama administration State Department.
And that's a fact.
Everybody can look that up and once petropoulsenko went in there he was going to be pro you
would pro u.s. not not uh... neutral like i get a couple to want to remain you
want to remain neutral between russia and the united states you want to be
caught in the middle of tug of war
so uh... public it's installed he's a hundred percent pro you pro u.s. and pro
u.s. and pro proxy war.
And now a proxy war is where the game is.
That's where the never ending money laundering schemes
continue.
Under the Trump administration,
the first Trump administration,
he gave $1 billion to Ukraine to help them
with missiles to fight off tanks.
Under the Biden administration,
they gave them $350 billion to fight in this endless
war and they wanted to keep it going.
So when you find out that President Trump, first off in 2016, inadvertently he wins the
election.
Now, this proxy war was set, the stage was set for a proxy war and in comes President
Trump and he interrupts this plan, essentially.
So that's where the whole Russia Russia Russia narrative began.
That's when they started trying to frame President Trump for colluding with Russia so they can
beat him and get him out of the way and get back to their proxy war, which is exactly
what they did after they stole the election in 2020.
Okay, and there is evidence of that, by the way.
There's plenty of evidence of that.
The Gateway Pundit broke one of the largest stories stories which Dan Bongino is looking into as we speak.
And there was a 27th state fraudulent voter registration operation called GBI Strategies
which was being paid by the DNC and by Biden for President Camp millions of dollars for
quote unquote voter outreach.
And basically they registered fraudulent voter registration forms and they got the applications for the unquote voter outreach. And basically they registered fraudulent voter
registration forms and they got the applications for the mail-in ballot. So there was reason
to believe that there was significant fraud that took place in 2020. And so after they
can impeach President Trump, then perhaps they steal the election. And then we have
a nail in the coffin event like a January 6th where it is
a setup and they did carefully roll up the plastic fencing and roll it away and get rid
of the signage that says no, no trespassing past his point. And then that takes place
an hour before President Trump even finishes speaking at the ellipsis. And then when he
finishes speaking, then his followers march down as scheduled for peaceful protest up
to the Capitol and
there's no fencing and there's no signage.
So what do they do?
They walk straight up into the trap, back to the Capitol.
Okay.
So you've got a lot of, oh, and by the way, on January 6th, we found a Ukrainian military
videographer who works with the Azov Battalion on the ground on January 6th. His name is Sergio Dabinian
and we found video coverage of him walking in and out of our capital and he's he's video recording
specific aspects of the event and he's
Broadcasting back to Ukraine. Ukraine is broadcasting on their national television one plus one One, owned by Igor Kulmoisky, who funded the Azov Battalion in the first place.
And he's broadcasting back in Ukraine that Russians are heard speaking on January 6th,
so pushing the narrative that perhaps Trump is colluding with Russians to overthrow his
own government.
All right.
Let me, if you don't mind me interjecting here, if you don't mind me interjecting, Jason,
is there any evidence that our own intelligence
agencies may have been running these operations in Ukraine against their own president?
Any evidence of that?
Well, you did have CIA members sitting at the table with Victoria Newland over in Ukraine
when they were interviewed in discussions taking place regarding this whole new government
that would take over in Ukraine. So, you know, there's some level of evidence where you have
What was that? And what was his name? Cicero or he was the whistleblower against President Trump regarding his phone call for Ukraine
Now you're not speaking though about no evidence of
US intelligence involved in these latest events that you're documenting on Gateway Pundit or not? No, no. I'm not insinuating
that the intelligence needs are involved, but however we do know we have some
serious questions, obviously. Again, how did Ryan Wesley Roth know that the
president was going to play golf that day? Who gave him that information?
Yeah, yeah, that's rather disturbing here too.
Wow, I think we're just going to have to send people to the Gateway Pundit to take a look at this story.
And we'll certainly do that. Could you tell me a bit about Unleashed.News?
How much does it cost to subscribe to your site there? And what are you doing there?
Sure, thank you. Well, you know, I'm an open source intelligence investigator. I work with
Peter Tickton, who is a lifetime friend of President Trump. He is one of his lead attorneys
and he helped spearhead the January 6th apparel investigation of January 6. He was truly engaged
by Peter Tickton to help lead that investigation in January 6. That's where a lot of these
heuricas came from. So Unleashed.News is a digital news network that we've launched in partnership with the
Gateway Pundit.
And people can come there and they can subscribe and get access to open source intelligence
directly from me as well.
I think subscriptions started $14.99 type of thing, but there are some discounts through
the Gateway Pundit.
And we also have a major event coming up in Las Vegas, August 9th and 10th that we'll be
announcing over the next couple of days as well.
But in the meantime, if you'd like to find me or my articles or my investigations, please
come on to the Gateway Pundit, type in my name, you'll be able to find them.
And also, please support us on leach.news.
Jason Sullivan, interesting talk, very thought provoking.
Love you back.
Thanks again for sharing.
Okay, be well.
Thank you very much. God bless.
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Boy, after talk of Ukrainian Nazis
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wow, what a story there from Jason Sullivan, huh?
But we're gonna clean the pallet a a little bit talk about the Klamath
Basin and wild horses and also by the way Captain William A Simpson here from the wild horse fire brigade
Captain you were down in what Napa?
Getting together with all the rich hoity-toity folks there in talking about documentaries and things. How did they go for you? Welcome back
All right. Good morning, Bill. No, it went really well. We had a screen of three movies, a couple
of eight-minute movies, Fuel, Fire, Wild Horses, the movie from the insurance
industry, AMBEST, called Rewilding Horses for Fire-Fuel Reduction, and then the new
movie, Horse of Nature, which is 40 minutes, is out there winning a bunch of awards.
So enthusiastically received and quite an interesting crowd, a cross section of people
there, people from the state and the county and the vineyards and homeowners and everybody's
really sick of fire and smoke.
And you know, and I've interviewed some Cal Fire people I won't name names but they said that they're also tired of this avoidance
of the grass and brush problem that could be managed with an herbivore. They
agree. These guys, these were you know uniformed firefighters saying that hey
we need to get the herbivory going. We can't handle these fires. We get worse every year. So anyway, very successful and so we're real happy. People are
catching on and people want to do pilot programs. I noticed that even right at
the corner of I-5 and Copacabana Road here, Exit 789, just a little bit
maybe 100 yards to the east of the Chevron station.
There's a little fire brigade going on there. They have six horses in there taking down that tall grass that was in there.
Now, I wanted to ask you here, Cap, I don't think I've ever seen, since I've lived here in southern Oregon in the early 90s. I don't know if it was just the extra wet winter.
I don't think I've ever seen the level of grasses on a lot of the open land right now.
Of course, I'm talking about how I'm struggling trying to get the grasses down at my home.
You were talking about a specific type of cheatgrass which seems to be really invasive up out here on the
West Coast called cheatgrass. Is that the stuff that has the really thick stalks
and then and then looks like wheat at the top that sort of thing because I'm
just just filled with that in my yard. Is that the type of grass you're talking
about which has been such a danger for wildfire fuels? Well it's one of the it's
one of the fuels and yeah you're sounds like you're describing cheatgrass to me so yeah
that's one of them and but you know the native fuels we have a lot of native
grasses and bush and plants that these fires just absolutely love once it gets
dry two-thirds of all these wildfires are grass and brush fires, not forest fires. And 90% of the deaths and economic
impacts are from grass and brush fires, not forest fires. So, and I've verified
all that data with Grok. I bought an advanced account, you know, you got to
shell out some real money. But I've been asking it a lot of hard questions.
Now, Grok is the
artificial intelligence connected with X right? Yeah it's well no that's the cheat
you can there's a lot of different levels of Grok you can buy you can buy
the basic the free Grok which most people can access then there's a an
introductory level of Grok and I think it's a hunter box but I have super Grok 3 which is the most expensive system.
That allows you deep reasoning logic, you know real analytical stuff. I had to dig into stuff last night
I was burning up the server down there in Louisiana, but on that supercomputer Colossus
but it ran 10 minutes doing this analysis for me and
losses, but it ran 10 minutes doing this analysis for me. But I'm finding out a lot of very interesting things, you know, like for instance, Grok
accused the BLM of perpetuating misinformation about wild horses, that they are in fact native,
that they are not an invasive, that they're not feraleral those are just human descriptors that have been attached to people for political economic and social trends that that
they are you know the he the grok just goes on and on about all the
nativeness of these horses and and then also talks about fire fuels and I've
asked a lot of questions and then I also thought touch base with grok on the Klamath dam and here's okay so you use your super duper grok
subscription what do you get when you dig into reasoning on the Klamath dam
here I can't wait to hear this one please oh my god you know I well it just
I just asked it could you please list the toxins
in Kapco Lake and Iron Gate Lake sediment and and basically it gave me a real
abbreviated list and and I and I kind of scratched my head and it said and then
there was a special note it says the exact concentrations and full lists of
contaminants may require access to the company's CDM Smith
report which is referenced but not fully detailed in the provided sources.
For precise data, you may need to obtain the report directly from Klamath River Renewal
Corporation.
Now, that is not available apparently on the web, right, for scraping by Grok.
Well, they have their, you know, these people spend tons of money with these big organizations to
scrub the web and do other things. You can't find it on the web I mean it
just disappeared and oh by the way it's not their proprietary research product.
Pacific Power, Warren Buffett paid for these things, and then they just, after they did
them, they just disappeared. I mean, as soon as that damn approval came through, these
three reports just disappeared. Well, what I did then, okay, is then, see, I got it.
I actually have both reports. So I gave Brock the report, and I said, now can you list the toxins?
And oh boy, here comes the list.
Dioxin, furin, dioxin like PCB, contingers, DDT, PCBs, PAH, Chlordane, Iron Gate Reservoir,
heavy metals, aluminum, arsenic, chromium, copper, lead, nickel, organic toxins, dioxins, purines, dioxins like PCB conningers, DDT, PCBs, PAH,
chloridase, you know, and see it was these guys put a lid on all of the stuff
that would make people take a moment and say hold up let's think about this
before we blow the dam. This is what you and I and others have been talking about
for years in the lead-up and so after the dam is blown up what you and I and others have been talking about for years
in the lead-up and so after the dam is blown up this is let go. Now the fact
that you have given that report then to Grok, will this end up helping more of
the truth of what was actually blown out into the river to come to the surface?
Well Grok concludes this report by saying, and I sent you that my first
email, my new article that I just wrote, a conversation with Groc about the
Klamath Dam. The end statement was we need to do some mitigation immediately
because Groc believes the toxins and sediment going down the river are going
to have a long-term effect on the recovery of that river. So and it's just what everybody
said beforehand we said look we can't and that's what these CDM Smith said.
We can't let these toxins go down the river. We got to you know dredge
the lake before we pop the dam. But pushing them down the river is
exactly what happened Captain Simpson, right?
That's what happened.
And is there any testing that you're aware of going on after the fact here?
Because most of the reporting that I see on the Klamath Dam removal is usually happy,
happy, directed, hey, look at our magic fish, you know, kind of stories and oh here is the,
you know, here's the look of the helicopter spreading the seeds onto the, you know, the
stuff that was left over, etc., etc.
Is any testing still being done or is it just kind of like out of sight, out of mind?
What do you think?
No, no testing and interestingly I talked to a biologist that was up here in the area, and we had about
a two-hour conversation, and I talked about the fact that the plants that are growing
in the sediment now are taking up these toxins.
Different plants take up the toxins at different rates, but nevertheless, now the toxins are
arguably in the plants.
There's a lot of science that says that.
And now the animals, or the various animals including the deer and the other
herbivore, will be eating that grass, correct? Well, yeah, that's
glossing over quite a bit, Bill. It's worse than that. You've got all kinds of
herbaceous insects that concentrate the toxins into their bodies, and insects
aren't quite as vulnerable as some of the mammals
are, but the bioaccumulation begins and then the insects are eaten by birds and other things.
Mice eat the rodents, eat the grass.
The mice, a snake eats the mouse, gets the super dose because the mouse will accumulate
it to a very high level in small incremental doses.
And then when an eagle or a snake or some other animal, a rabbit, gets eaten, the next
animal up the food chain gets a super dose and can die immediately.
And this guy agreed with me.
He was concerned, oh, by the way, our eagle population here is virtually almost zero. There's very
few eagles now. They used to be all over the place. Bald eagles, golden eagles, very, very
few. The osprey nest, if you drive up Copco Road, every osprey nest, they used to fight over the
nest. There's so many birds of prey here, ospreys, wanting to nest in these nests that were built on
top of telephone poles and things,
they're virtually all empty.
Okay, those guys are all gone.
And the bat population has collapsed here.
There's no bats anymore because, oh, the insect,
the huge insect hatch that occurred on the lakes is gone.
So, I mean that the-
So, and now, Ed, I wanted to just interject here,
Captain Bill, because the reason is
you have brought up these issues here for years prior to this.
We would bring this information up in comments.
In fact, you had an article by Recall in SisQ.News a number of years ago that you talked about
the incredible ecosystem which was set up by the Klamath.
Now you can talk about restoring it
to its original all you want,
but there was a new ecosystem that also had lots,
just tons of life in there and it was thrown overboard
for the hope of getting back, you know,
what a Klamath River that was encased in amber, I guess.
Right, well, and I think RES and KRRC
are trying to punish me for outing them on all of their baloney that they put out there, all their propaganda to the public, and by not the river I should say, it got fence only. The other side didn't.
Okay, the south side of the Klamath River did not get fence. And guess what? The other
day I filmed 20 head of cattle down there eating all their precious, revegetative stuff.
Oh, by the way, oops, what toxins are going into those beef animals, right? So there was 20 head, I filmed them, I took pictures, but on our
side, our horses, our heritage horses that have been here at least documented since 1580,
they can't get to the river for historic water. They've been going down there for thousands
of years, it's horse falls. They've been going down there at the river and then when there
was dams and they went to the lake to get their water, these guys, REF and KRRC, promised in their EA and EIS
that they were going to defense the footprint of the lake.
They didn't do that.
They fenced the way up from the footprint of the lake towards the road, and they were
going to provide alternative water, and that's been said over and over again.
Even Mosserman, the county
attorney here wrote a letter and said, hey, you guys need to be putting up this alternative
water you promised.
And of course, last summer they didn't even put up the fence when they were supposed to
so all the deer ended up in the mud and dead and a lot of other animals.
These guys have been complete failures, they've complete cover up, misrepresenting, lying
at every turn about this project.
The reason why I'm still drilling down on this is because they still haven't lived up
to what they promised in writing, what they promised in their EIS, all of the things that
they promised.
No, they did not comply.
There's almost no compliance.
But they showboat.
They got the helicopters.
They planted a whole bunch of poppies up here.
Well, poppies, you never saw poppies along the river up here.
But it looks great for the camera.
All these yellow flowers all over.
Oh, look, it's wonderful.
It's all showboating for money.
And the ecosystem here, Bill, is collapsed. The last little bit of the ecosystem are these
precious spirit horses we have. Now, how long do you think it will take to recover the greater
ecology in your view? Oh my god, it's going to take many, many decades. I mean, you know,
it took a long time for instance, you think in terms of the crayfish in the
river, or crawdads as we all call them, you know, a lot of us ate them growing up as kids,
you know, camping, you know, crawdads, and you know, like mini lobsters.
Well, billions with a bee died when that sediment went down the river.
Billions.
It was, the river was so toxic and so low on oxygen that they all crawled out onto the
bank because they were all suffocating because of the clay in their gills, the microscopic
sedimentary particles, and no oxygen. They climbed up on the bank in the sun and died
by the billions all the way down the river. and they were a basic food source for everything, eight products, the birds, the raccoons, the fish, the trout, the salmon. You know, they can
talk all they want about trying to restore this river, but they killed off millions of
fish, native fish, not the warm water fish. They killed out millions of those too. And
I filmed that. But they killed off millions of native fish,
trout, salmon, seal heads, and we filmed that.
There was dead turtles, dead frogs, dead beavers.
They don't want to talk about any of that.
Now, let me ask, what role is Siskiyou County playing in this?
Because it's all taking place within this.
Their silence is deafening.
Their position I think now is that look, we could challenge this, we could put a report,
but oh well, it's water under the bridge, we got our $20 million to just shut up and
go away.
They gave them some sort of damages but you know the loss you know
people floating down the river on the inner tube and by the way there's pieces
of concrete or rebar sticking out of it so when somebody gets one of those up
their backside we'll be seeing some interesting lawsuits from that but
nobody wants to talk about the fact that the river is about 24 inches deep in
most places it's full of mud, nothing's spawning in it.
Maybe way down by the mouth, there might be a little bit of action down there because
as the sediment goes down, it's not quite as deep.
But up here, you look at the Kapka Lake and where Kapka Lake and Iron Good Lake was, you
can tell the water is just a couple of feet in some places even less above the sediment.
And it's not gravel.
We're talking about mud.
It's brown, it's muddy, it's nasty.
And that's why there's no birds of prey that eat fish here.
There's nothing in the river.
You know, they try to tell you, oh, there's fish in the river.
There's not.
There might be one or two here or there.
And what they did is they planted the tributaries.
I saw trucks with spawners and oxygen tanks.
That means they came a long way.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in.
And they were trying to get the fish to come in. And they were trying to get the fish to come in. And they were trying to get the fish to come in. And they were trying to get the fish to come in. And they they did is they planted the tributaries. I saw trucks
with spawners and oxygen tanks. That means they came a long way. Coming up the road,
and all of a sudden there's spawning salmon in Jenny Creek. Well, you had to have something for
the TV cameras, right? Yeah. Yeah. And everybody was there with cameras and taking pictures, but the question is how did they get there?
Well, California Fish and Wildlife is the silent side of them on that subject is deafening.
They won't say they've been swimming up the river.
They won't say that.
And they won't say that they brought them up and dumped them into tributaries, so then
they went out in the tributary after they swam in the river. They're not saying any of that stuff. They're just quiet about how it's all happening.
But you know, when I fly over the river with my drone, I can't even see down in the water.
I mean, and then people say, well, we're taking pictures of the fish in the river. Well, how did
you do it? You know, I got a Hasselblad camera on my drone and I can't see down in that water and I'm you know six feet above the river. That is all right. Captain Bill where is your article?
Do you have that hosted on SisQ News at this point because I'll just post this.
I've just got to do it. People got to read this. I don't know. I sent it over to Jay and he just hasn't gotten it up for one reason.
Well why don't I just I'll just post it okay. Let me do that. Yeah you can do that.
That would be great. All right. And, you know, people need to read it. But now that we've got this
super-intelligent AI that has reasoning, it has logic, it's not just a chat box, chat bot search
engine. The Grok 3 is a reasoning. It's like data from Star Trek. I mean, this thing talks to you
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like you can't believe. And you know my hats off to Elon Musk for this because it's not
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about anything. It finds the data unless it's been sequestered like this, the CDM
Smith reports. Yeah, now that you put the CDM Smith report out there, hopefully
that will then, you know... Well, I actually had the reports early on,
and I put them on my articles at SysCue News. Oh, but it must not have been scraped for whatever
reason, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, see, that's the other thing, because SysCue News and J. Martin
were publishing the truth for a long time there. They got this ratcheted way down by Google.
They got this ratcheted way down by Google. You can't find a SISQ News article on Google.
They just went in there and tweaked it so that that does not come up
unless you specifically put SISQ News,
if you put SISQ News William Simpson, you'll find my article.
Yeah, in other words, the lie by omission, right?
That's how we find ourselves.
They put a barrier on it, and they don't want the truth out there.
This is America, okay?
PRRC should be penalized.
They should be punished with fines for violating their EIS, for manipulating the news to cover
up what's going on here. They still
haven't provided alternative water. I have to try to run around now. Our
organization is not rich. We have to run around and buy props for people who
will fill them with well water along the up-gold side of the fence,
where the horses can't get to the river now, and a lot of other animals can't either, by the way.
And we have to give people troughs and ask them to fill it with their well water.
And so these animals who deserve to have water, they've had it for thousands of years, now they
don't. That's wrong. You were talking about your side of the river being fenced now and keeping the horses from
drinking but given the way you've described what's happening with the Klamath Dam, isn't
it better to keep the horses away from that foliage being grown and the water?
It is but they promised to provide the alternative water source, you know, which would be probably
well water.
Now there's a well right there at Camp Creek at the park that Pacific Corp dug. I went to Dave
Kaufman, who's the head honcho that came up here from Texas for Resource
Environmental Solutions, and he promised they were going to put alternative
water to me face-to-face, eye- eye to eye. So much for Texas, right?
You talk to a guy from Texas eye to eye, it doesn't mean anything apparently.
But he comes up here and he puts on a cowboy hat, suddenly he's a cowboy.
So anyway, he said they were going to do that.
Well, they never did it.
I told them where it would be easy to do, right?
They're a camp free.
Because they tap that well, you own the land now, tap the well, put up a stock tank there, problem solved. Would he do it?
No. You know, these guys are unbelievable. When you provide the truth to the public,
they want to punish you. They want to punish you if you provide the truth.
Well, truth tellers throughout history have not tended to always be welcome here, Captain Bill.
We pay our elected officials to do the right thing for us. Yeah, and they're kind of sitting on their hands right now too from the sounds of it.
I'm sorry to hear that, but I appreciate the update here.
I'm just out of time at this point, but I appreciate it.
I'm going to put your article up there in which your conversations on the Klamath,
along with the various information and charts that you put up there, okay? And yeah, we'll have you back, but thank you
for the update, okay? Really appreciate that.
Thanks Bill, thanks for having me.
Captain William E. Simpson from the Wild Horse Fire Brigade.
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pasta in the United States and you get fat, you eat pasta in Italy and you lose weight.
And yet you're thinking what is wheat?
Wheat.
And Jeff from Selma says, Bill, modern US wheat has been hybridized for decades before
GMO and Roundup Ready strains.
In every instance, the intent is to increase bushel per acre yields in the case of Roundup Ready to be able to
grow in the presence of an herbicide. As a result, the end product is very
different in nutritional value and also contains herbicides. Europe, on the other
hand, which is what I was talking about in Italy, mostly grows ancient grains. The
foremost of these available here in the US is Einkorn or Einkorn rather
This is a grain that has not been modified from its ancient form and can be consumed by people who cannot tolerate
American sourced wheat projects and then he gives me a website for this group. Thank you very much, Jeff
That's very interesting. I like to keep people informed on that stuff
I might have to put that on my list today too. Hello Steve, you want to weigh in on a matter of concern. Go ahead.
Well, I really appreciate your guy on diabetes because my wife is dealing with the complications from that. And the simplest thing I can tell people is the small things that you have today that
are in irritation, as you get older, become life threatening.
Pay attention and work soon, not later.
It's just amazing.
As you approach eight decades, everything becomes critical.
Yeah, then, well, heck, eight decades, even a cold can kill you, right?
I can guarantee you that a urinary tract infection can.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Depending on how that spreads, that is for sure.
By the way, the...
I only spend a week in the hospital and
four days in a coma. By the way, wow I'm glad you made it. Now, a lot of people have been writing
me asking for that website again from that alternative clinic. It's usdiabetescare.com.
usdiabetescare.com is that website. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Let me grab, I think this is Francine. Hey Francine, how you doing? Go ahead.
I'm good Bill. Good morning. Morning. Well, just before I get into what I had
called, a real quick comment regarding the wheat and the heritage
wheat that's grown. I don't know if there's anything left in this country, no
matter how hard people try, that has not
been contaminated by the winds and things like that from the pollens from the GMO and
other altered crops.
In fact, you might recall, I forget, maybe 15 or more years ago, where they were suing
farmers and making them destroy all the seeds that their family
has hung onto for generations because there was crop contamination from Monsanto's GMO
crops and they blamed that the farmers can't have their seeds anymore because they've stolen
their...
Yeah, I remember that story.
Yeah, so the Roundup seeds got, or the Roundup Ready or the GMO corn, I think, especially
is what you were speaking of, got contaminated their fields and so they have to stop and
they're violating copyright law or trademark law.
You know, that kind of thing.
Interesting.
Yeah, I do remember that.
I do remember that.
I think it's about time to talk to Joel Salenton again, don't you?
You know Joel Salenton?
I think we lost her.
All right.
Well, okay, I'll tell you what.
We will get back to such subjects, maybe another day here this week.
Okay, we can't do it right now.
Hold the calls here for a little bit.
Dr. Dennis Powers will be joining me here in just a little bit and we're going to be
talking about some local history.
We got to get some lawfare update too, and a bit more all coming up.