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Always good conversation about cars in the open road. In his premier article today, we got to talk about this one. The ASS system, maybe on its last... Okay, now that's what we've always called it because that's the acronym, ASS, automated start-stop. Nobody asked for it, and every car manufacturer has it right now. You know you pull up to the to the stoplight in order to shave carbon, the car stops and then you let your foot off the gas and then it starts up again. Of course lots of wear. You know you know the part that I've never heard anybody

talk about though. I'm wondering what these start-stop cycles might do to engine life, ultimately. The oil pressure drops a little bit. I guess there must be oil film enough to do that. I'd love to hear from a mechanic on this that could actually say whether or not the automated start-stop causes more wear and causes more trouble than it fixes. But you know, this is the entire situation I think we're dealing with, with what is considered progress. I've been reading an interesting book the last few weeks.

I haven't completely finished it, but I've invited the author, Charles H. Smith, and he wrote a book called The End of Progress, and how so much of the, so many of the myths, the things that we think of as as progress just aren't so. And I think that, you know, I look at the automated, the automated start-stop system as a classic example of this. Charles Hugh Smith will join the show, I think it's going to be a week from tomorrow and he lives in Hawaii which means that even for an 830 interview, which is what I'm going to book him for next Thursday, he has to get up way, way, way, way early. It's like 530, 515 in the morning, stubble in and eat his Cheetos or his Cheerios or whatever it is and then get on the show with me. But I thought it was such an interesting situation that so many of the myths that we think of

what is progress, you know, what is progress. And he came up with a term that I absolutely love and I have been using it more and more. And it has to do with the landfill economy in which our economy is supposedly growing the more that we... pardon me, I have a little bit of phlegm there. Pardon me there. That the economy is growing the more stuff that we buy and then can throw away and shove into the landfill. And he's not an Enviro-nut, nothing like that, but you know there's a certain point about that that he's absolutely right that, okay, alright, it's progress that Windows 10, as an example, is going to be no longer supported at the end of this year, or a little bit later this year. I was reading some computer blog about this. This is progress,

right? Now, what this means is that there's a whole bunch of perfectly good computers out there that will needlessly, in my opinion, be shoved into the landfill. Well, not in Oregon because it's illegal to put e-waste in there, but recycled and even then not really recycled, just kind of ground up and, you know, that's it. And then it's progress! Because it'll be Windows 11. Now how long will it be before our Windows 11 things

don't have the trusted boot stuff in it and everything else? And oh, I'm sorry, you're gonna have to get rid of everything. Everything you get rid of, everything you have is, no, the apps won't run. Oh, it's not secure. You won't be safe. It's kind of a long way dancing around the automated stop technology, huh? It's all kind of a long way dancing around the automated stop technology, huh?

It's all kind of connected. This managerial state, this whole system that decides that you and I aren't smart enough and can't figure out anything, and there need to be the professional professionals. Yes, I'm a professional at being professional. Everything from your urban planners to your public health people to your legislators who take all the power of legislating, really, and put it into rulemaking of the agencies, which once again are filled with the professional professionals. What do you produce? Nothing. I produce rules, but I'm a professional at doing it.

It's like it's the entire system right now. And we wonder, no wonder why everyone's just going and doing all sorts of hissy fits when you have President Trump trying to kill agencies. The agencies are where the awoke-topus lives. That's it. All the agencies, all of them, even agencies with the best of intentions. We couldn't possibly have clean air without the agencies. We couldn't possibly feed ourselves. It just gets exhausting after a while, and I understand this.

And I would imagine President Trump must have pretty thick skin to be able to keep going after this. Keep going. Come on, President Trump, keep out there with your Klingon battle sword or whatever it is and keep swinging. Oh, useless parasites, we shall strike you down. No, I know not useless. You know, one person's uselessness is another person's full-time job in purrs, I suppose. But yeah, we're coming to the end of that. We really are coming to the end of that. Let me see. There was a story I had saved this morning that... All right, where was this? Oh yeah, here we go. Yeah, the whole idea of our system with our professional managers everywhere, enabled by our legislators and our city councilors and all the rest of it, is we end up getting

stories like this. Bill would prevent landlords from evicting low-income and pregnant Oregonians who fail to pay rent. Now I'm sure that the professional professionals running the system, I'm sure they graduate from college with degrees in professional professionalism, come up with stuff like this and then they feed it to the state legislators and then idiots like Senator Manning, you know the guy who I played some of his stuff yesterday, they go, well yeah, that sounds like the right thing to do.

Senate Bill 992, but of course the way it's being portrayed here, it would protect low-income pregnant renters and renters with babies in the first year of life from being evicted. It would stop landlords from evicting many low-income and pregnant women. So once again, it's not about, the problem is not that there are low-income and pregnant people who can't afford to have pregnant women who can't afford to have babies. That's not the problem. The problem is the landlord. Isn't that essentially what the professional professionals have come up with?

The society of professional rule makers have come up with? Yeah, the problem is the landlord. So apparently it will be up to the landlords who have the unfortunate aspect of maybe renting to a poor person. It's up to them to protect them. Don't you find that fascinating? Could there be any downside to this latest plopping out of the professionalism's cloaca of how yet we're going to refashion society into utopia?

This is what we'll do. We'll take those poor schmoes that actually own the property and say, you can't charge her. If they can't pay the rent, that's just too bad. Oh, she's pregnant? Oh, man. She's got a golden ticket for the first year of life, baby. Daddy doesn't have to pay. State doesn't have to pay. The landlord has to pay. What could go wrong with such a professional, professional solution? Is there anybody listening this morning that could see the downside to making landlords responsible for protecting the poor people? Oh no, it couldn't be that you wouldn't have anybody want to be a landlord anymore, right? It couldn't be that. You wouldn't think about it.

Let's say that if you had a small apartment complex here in Medford and you wanted to be a landlord and then you see a bill like this that comes up that says, you know, if you have a pregnant woman in there and she can't pay, you can't kick her out you can't kick her out but I still have to pay for the apartment I have to pay for everything else shut up evil man evil woman you're the landlord who would want to do this who would actually want to do who would want to be a landlord in something like

this? Maybe this is what the point of Senate Bill 992 is all about. We want to make sure that all the housing for poor people and pregnant women then becomes turned over to, oh, Jackson County housing, which is filled with professional professionals. Professional professionals there to help bring in the Marxist utopia, the technocratic because you have to have the technocracy, the monitoring and the artificial intelligence to manage all the poor, stupid people. I'm not saying that poor people are stupid. I'm just saying that once again, if you're poor people, well, you need the artificial intelligence. We're going to sit there and monitor you every step of the way.

And oh, no one can evict you too. Could there be any downside to this? Like, nobody would ever want to build anything that would become a landlord any longer? I'll tell you, if I were a landlord right now with any kind of low-income housing, I would do whatever you could at this point in time to sell that stuff off as soon as possible. That's what I would do right now. Sell it off, turn it into not rental housing, sell it off, sell it off as condos, whatever the case might be, because it would appear the state of Oregon, once again, is wanting to balance the backs of the poor people on landlords. It's not the state's fault. It's never the state's fault.

Of course, you couldn't do something like actually be business-friendly and not act like Marxist. I had a really nasty word I was going to use. I can't do this. I forget. Sometimes I'm on broadcast. I've got to do that little edit thing. You know, the little Marxist individuals, you know, that are against a business that want to have corporate activity taxes and they hate landlords and they hate business people, but they want their tax money, you know, that sort of thing.

We couldn't lighten up on that and actually become a business-friendly state, could we? We couldn't lighten up on actually being able to develop something so that if we actually needed poor people, housing for poor people, it didn't take two, three years to do. And hundreds of thousands of dollars in permits and all this kind of stuff. And urban growth boundaries and all the rest because carbon and it... Sorry, I'm just being a little frustrated by this, but everything is about the managerial state. Absolutely everything. And the professional professionals, even with keeping landlords, maybe evicting the low income and pregnant because, well, I'm sure this is what the professionals figured would help make Oregon a just a wonderful place to live.

If you're a landlord, sell it. Sell it now. Sell it into private hands, because there may come a point that if you have anything which could almost be considered as low income housing, you are going to be screwed because the legislature is coming after you once again. What do we do about it? I don't know. I don't know. I'm sure the Republicans are fighting this, just like they're fighting the gun bills too. Yeah, tongue is right in my cheek there.

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Hello, Jason. You want to do a shout out to your doctor, huh? Your doctor? Yeah, Dr. Weekings. He's a lovely, lovely, lovely orthopedic surgeon and he even cut my leg off, but I still love him back in 2016. Okay, wait, he cut your leg off? You still love him?

Yes, sir. Okay, well, apparently I hope he had no choice, right? He didn't even have a choice. He said, are you ready to do this or are you going to do that? Oh, okay. See, that's serious then. All right, that's fine. I didn't want to make fun of it. I just want to make sure you just don't show up and the doctor starts saying, hey, well, you're just going to cut your leg off, you know? No, no, he already worked on it. broken fractured and plateau fracture and kibbley-fibbley and everything else I've messed that leg up. Yeah the the knee joint connected to the thigh bone and it just wasn't working huh? There you go and he's really lovely I remember he's like

you know what I ain't supposed to do this but I'll he's like, you know what? I ain't supposed to do this, but I'll come pick you up You know, you got a real bad fracture, you know and then I Was like I just remembered how nice he was to me and how gracious he was. He's a big old guy He looks like a linebacker man. He's got a big old deep voice. Yeah., yeah. Don't argue with a doctor. Well, hey, thanks for the shout out. I'm glad you had a good experience there. And by the way, are you on a prosthesis leg at this point or what are you doing? Oh, yeah. I got a prosthetic leg. I mean, if I didn't, if I wear pants, you can't even tell. I walk perfectly. Good for you. Jason, it's good to wear pants too, okay?

Not like you. Jason, it's good to wear pants too, okay? You take care of yourself. Not like you! Well, you know, I could go pantless here in the studio as long as I just didn't stand away from the console all that much, alright? Thanks for the call. Good hearing from you. See, that's the way to start. That gets me out of my weird mood about everything is just like the professional professionals attacking and destroying everything beautiful and good in this country. But anyway, hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey Bill, John and Midford. Hello John. Yeah, I just heard your little blip there about the masters of government legislators

basically going after the landlords again. Yeah, once thing. Now, I also want to be fair that it's not completely just the landlords, but the whole idea is that if you are pregnant with child or whatever it is in the first year of life, doesn't matter what, you can't evict them is what this bill would do. And also if you are just low income in general. And the thing is they're talking about how it would put, they had this program they would have to put these people in your rental house, let's say, in the front for government money, all right? First in line for the government money

from the feds apparently. So there's still fed money coming, John. The point is though, there wouldn't be any need to tell landlords you can't evict these people for not paying if they're paying with the federal money. So you know what's really going on here. Can you imagine what's really going on, what they're planning on doing with this? I'm all ears, Bill. I'll bet it would be less than what you were charging them. In other words, you can evict them, but here is maybe it's 80% of what you were charging them.

You would take that landlord, right? You're not allowed to evict them, but will help make it a little less painful for you. It's still going to hurt. It's still going to hurt, but you have to give up your property for the common good. That kind of thing. What do you think? Well, I look at this as a kind of, you know, a top-down looking down on it all. And the phrase that comes to me when I heard you say this was, looking for love in all the wrong places.

Like, aren't we trying to grow up too soon? Basically, I mean, it doesn't take a lot of skill sets to squeeze out a child. It takes a lot of skill sets to raise that child. It takes a lot of skill sets to be in the grind for a guy, develop your skills, do what you need to do, start building something where you can support a girl. It doesn't take much just to squeeze out children.

And this is where I see Oregon going to, which basically just encourages more non-nuclear families. Yeah, that's a very good point because we're not going to have any judgment. We're not supposed to have any judgment. The professional professionals everywhere. You can't pass judgment on someone's behavior. You can't encourage someone to have better behavior. We have to take care of your behavior however bad that is. Well, we can't even call it bad. It just is. It's

part of your culture. Let's just say culture, right? And then we have money for you or we'll make the landlord take care of you, I guess. Yeah. All this, Phil, is like from the belly button down focused. It has nothing to do with the heart chakra, you know, all of your upper reason, ability, what goes on in your upper brain, your upper head. It's all about how do we feed the beast below the belly button and, you know... Oregon loves the beast below the belly button. In fact, I think that's all they concentrate, everything from transgender affirming care,

you know, all that kind of stuff. All that matters is what's below the belly. And I guess maybe on your chest, if you're, you know, female. And that is how they know they can control people by focusing below the belly button, Bill. Very good point. Appreciate the call there, John. Good hearing from you. And we resist focusing on just the belly button, Bill. Very good point. Appreciate the call there, John. Good hearing from you.

And we resist focusing on just the belly button, whether it's an any or an outie. Okay. 7705633. Speaking of, we were talking about medical here in the last few minutes, first thing, especially with Jason and his leg there. And this person wants to be known as anonymous and

saying, Bill, I came across something that I found interesting. A month ago, I went into Asante at Blacko because my wife used to work at Asante and it's our go-to place without clogging up the ER over something dumb. I'm figuring that it's like a Medicare or a mediate care facility, which until January it was. I don't have a primary care doctor because I don't go through enough to have one. So I went in for an ear infection. I talked to the doctor.

I got my $10 ear drops, and then I left. Well, today I got a call about financial aid. I have insurance, I pay my bills, so I opted out immediately. Before I hung up I wanted to know what the bill was and she replied was, your bill is $600. I said what? All I did was talk to a doctor. I talked to a doctor and so she replied with, well you can answer two questions to see if you are eligible for financial aid. I talked to a doctor and so she replied with, well you can answer two questions to see if you are eligible for financial aid. I thought to myself, well I'm lucky to hurt. So I replied to her, I make too much money and I pay my bills but fine. The two questions were, one, how many people in your household, two, how

much do you make a year? I answered and she replied, You qualify. Your debt is forgiven. I asked what it takes to not qualify and she said, if you make under $96,000 a year it's forgiven. Really? This is going to blow me away. I've got to try to find out more about this. But the anonymous writer also says, I also might add that I didn't have to show proof of who was in my house or how much I make a year. Anyway, I just found that interesting and can foresee where our future is headed.

If you find it worthy to talk about this on air, if possible, could you keep my name out of it, please? I don't like the spotlight. Ha ha. Okay. So under 96,000 means you don't have to pay your own bill, huh? Up to 96,000. Wow. Gosh, maybe we're getting single pay or care, whether we realize it or not. You know, Obamacare has taken over everything and that's just it. Nobody has to pay for anything anymore. Everything's free. Morning, hi, who's this? Good morning, Bill. This is Francine with a pretty

Thursday conspiracy for you. Okay, fire away. Okay, so what they're doing with this housing thing, you don't have to pay rent if you're pregnant, of course, it's going to encourage the, you know, the welfare mentality of people to keep popping them kids out and get more welfare money. Plus then they can pop and keep popping them out and get more money and not have to even pay any rent. Woohoo! But the reason, one of the reasons that they're doing this is because they're starting to

lose traction with the immigrants, the illegal immigrants who they're starting to lose traction with the with the immigrants, the illegal immigrants, who they're going to get all to be all their Democrat voters. Oh they have to rebuild the the Oregon underclass, the native Oregon underclass. Yeah, Oregon is like they try everything first in Oregon. Once that catches on it's gonna go all over the country. Yeah next thing Tina Koteck will be out there in Josephine County, let's say, handing out free methamphetamine and free, what is it, fentanyl. So this way, and also give you the programs for, we don't want you to be treated in drugs, we want you to be despair and popping out kids. We need to create more of that lower class, right? Yeah.

Got it. Got it. See, you're thinking. So you could be hired in as a Democratic political strategist. Good for you. Could be an interesting... Oh, Lord, help me. Thanks, Francine. Oh, boy. It's 635 KMED. Eric Peters joins me Wheels Up Wednesday. The end of automated start stop. Could it be? It'd be some good news this morning. I'll take that.

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Going off the road on a crazy drain for sure here it's EP autos Eric Peters on wheels up Wednesday and if you wanted to talk with him about some part that you've been looking at or something in the political transportation Nexus 7705633 to join in Eric it's great to have you back and I was mentioning early when I first came on that you had the premier article this morning on EP autos From Lee Zeldin the start-stop technology the ass button automated start-stop button Which has been on many new cars over the last decade or so or maybe the last five years How long has that been out there? Yeah, but it goes back about ten years

But it's become pretty much standard in everything for about the past five years and it is one of the most irritating pretty much standard in everything for about the past five years. And it is one of the most irritating quote unquote scary air quote feature that has come in the newer vehicles, the ASS, okay? We hate those things. Everybody hates them. Nobody wanted them. How did we get them? Lee Zeldin is talking about wanting to fix this and I'm intrigued. Well, I am too. It sounds good at the problem is that the premises faulty he implies that the car manufacturers just out of the blue decided that everybody wants ass and installed it in their cars kind of contemptuously forcing it on people

in fact the reason the cars have this system is because of compliance pressure uh... two reasons specifically cafe the corporate average fuel economy standards uh... and also this business about carbon dioxide being a pollutant and we have to have less of that so what does the astute shots off the engine and so you get a slight fuel economy benefit that meant that is not at all to the individual vehicle owner because it's about one mile per gallon maybe

uh... and if you're perplexed and wondering well why would they go to those links to just save people a mile per gallon? And it's not because of that. It's because the factoring out of that over, say, 100,000 vehicles that are made in a year becomes relevant in terms of calculating their corporate average fuel economy number. And it has to do with compliance, right? It's all about the compliance once again. Now, is Zeldin talking, striking at the root? I guess

that's the important question here because striking at the root would be striking at the regulatory state that encouraged the automobile manufacturers to do this ridiculous ass-button in the first place. Yeah, I see this as another one of the Trump administration's ham-fisted, clumsy attempts to fix a problem like the tariff thing. You know. How's that going to make vehicles more affordable by increasing the cost of vehicles? So in this case they're not talking about getting rid of the federal regulations that effectively force the car manufacturers to come up with things like ass. So what are they going to do? They're going to

issue some sort of executive order or fatwa ordering the car companies to cease putting the ass in their car. Well that's fine, but then they're going to have to resort to some other form of Rube Goldberg-esque expensive annoying technology to achieve the same compliance. So it's not really a win for us, is it, in that scenario? Yeah. So the whole idea is that you need to strike at the root of this. Now the thing is though, is that the EPA and the National Transportation Safety Board and all the other various apparatchiks that do this kind of stuff, they came up with the regulations in the first place and my

question is if they came up and then said hey we would like to do this and the regulations were then put in place in the Federal Register, why can they not be unmade? Do you know? Of course, they absolutely could be, but they won't be, because implicit in that is that the regulations weren't necessary, and no bureaucracy has ever publicly come out and said, yep, mission accomplished, everything's done, we don't need to do anymore, we need to go find productive work elsewhere. They're never going to do that. That's why they redefined emissions, which most people when they hear

that word they think of things that cause air pollution, to include carbon dioxide, which of course has nothing at all to do with air pollution. Exactly. All right. So Lee Zeldin though controls the EPA. Does he not? He does. All right. Nominally, yeah. All right. Could he not then order the agency to rewrite some of these FATWAS that have been going on? Well, he could, but will he?

You know, Trump a couple of weeks ago said something to the effect of he wants to get back to the standards that were in effect in 2020. Well, that's not going to solve the problem. The reason that we have asked is because of the standards that were in effect in 2020. So abating things slightly isn't going to change anything meaningfully.

And it doesn't appear to me that the administration is particularly interested in saying it's time to close the EPA, at least with regard to things like vehicle exhaust emissions, nor getting rid of these federal requirements that your vehicle must achieve a certain miles per gallon, instead of leaving that between you between you the car buyer and the car manufacturer. So are we potentially being sold to build the goods when Lee Zeldin says okay I want to get rid of this button okay you get rid of the button but the underlying fatwas are still there and so what do we want? Well call me cynical but I put it in the same category as the promises that the people on the Epstein list were going to be arrested. I haven't seen any evidence of that happening. I'm becoming very cynical about what the Trump

administration says relative to what the Trump administration does. Are there rules though that would prevent them from rolling it back? In other words, are the regulations more or less like, well, let's use a Chinese term, right? You know the Chinese finger puzzles that you stick your finger in, you can always stick them in further, but you can't pull them out? No, you know, the federal bureaucracy and the federal government writ large, in my opinion, is sort of like the toothless man in deliverance when he said, if we want your money, we'll take your money. They do whatever they want. They can talk about all these legalisms and, oh, we're not allowed to do that by statute.

But the fact is that if there's a will, there's a way. And if they want to do something, they'll do it. And if they don't want to do something, they won't do it. Is there a possibility that maybe they don't really want to strike at the root of this because of the political, Republicans are out there, they want dirty air? It's going to be something like that. That simple. I think that's part of it.

And I think it's important to remember that Trump is not a libertarian or even really a limited government conservative. If you look at what he talks about and what he actually does, he's more kind of like a 60s era Democrat. Well, he was a Democrat back in the 60s. So it could be. But you know, a Democrat in the 60s is much preferable to a Democrat for today, though, if that's the case. Well, I agree. I agree. But you know, it's frustrating, you know, hear them talking about things like making government more efficient. I want less government, not more efficient government. You know, I want the end of Obamacare. I don't want Mend-It and bring back some new system that they consider to be better than the previous one. And so this is the tension that you can see then between President Trump and the Republican Orthodoxy and even let's say the Thomas Masses and the Rand Pauls of the party too that are saying, hey listen

we don't want to just remove the ass button we want to you know actually. To be fair to Trump I think that this is a man who himself has said he doesn't drive he gets driven I don't think he understands very much about cars at all I don't think he ever personally has pushed the ass button you know I don't think he really understands anything about cafe at all i don't think you ever personally has pushed the ass button you know i don't think you really understand anything about cafe at all i'm giving him the benefit of the doubt i think if he did i wish i could get ten minutes with the guy to talk to him about it and try to make the case look

this is something the federal government ought not to be involved in because it's just not legitimate it's not legitimate constitutionally and it's not legitimate in any other sense this idea that we wouldn't have access to uh... fuel-efficient vehicles if it weren't for the federal government is absolutely preposterous because people wouldn't want that and the manufacturers would supply it. It's just that they wouldn't supply nothing other than expensive so-called fuel-efficient vehicles. Yeah, I have a couple of buddies over in DC Swamp. Would you try to get an audience with a

Trump person? Absolutely. Okay, I'll work on that. I'll get back to you, okay? This may take time, as you as you well know. You people I know have gone to work for it. So, all right, we'll set that aside right now. Let's hope that at least the automated start stop. You know, something I wanted to ask you though, have you ever talked with any mechanics that we can or can detect rather more wear on the

vehicles that have the automated start-stop because it is a start-stop cycle and so you have oil pressure that goes down you know while your vehicle and so it's another restart now granted there's probably a nice thin layer of oil on everything still but I would imagine it is still more wear than just letting it run and keeping the oil pressure up. Well there actually is, particularly with regard to some brands. One of my readers actually posted something about this, which I thought about adding to the article, but it didn't seem to fit in anywhere. But the

point is that pressurized oil forces its way in between bearings, for example. Right. And if that doesn't happen and the tolerances are very tight, you do get increased wear. Now it may not show up until after the warranty is over, and then you're the one that's holding the bag. And you're absolutely going to be left holding the bag for the shorter service life of the 12-volt starter battery, which is not going to last as long due to all of this start, stopping, and cycling. And the same is probably true for the alternator, which is going to be working harder to try

to reinstall charge in the battery. And of course the starter, unless the starter has been specifically designed to be able to deal with many fold times more start-stop cycles than would ordinarily be the case, that's probably going to croak out on you too sooner rather than later. And all of these things have costs. And again, what's the benefit to you, the buyer? There is not. No, there's never been any benefit for the buyer on any of this for sure.

Isn't it to think that all of the stuff that's appearing in these cars, as far as I can tell, nobody asked for it. It's just there. You're not given the choice of, hey, yeah, that sounds like a great idea to me. I'm happy to pay a couple hundred extra bucks to have that in my car. But we're kind of conditioned that the stuff that now gets required, it's like, oh, this is really neat. I have a rear backup camera now. Well well you know the reason why you need a rear backup camera now because of another regulation that came in that that made all the cars have huge behinds right you can't and small windows small windows was the other thing right you don't have windows country is so PTSD and in shell-shocked

by authoritarianism that it's grateful when it just is dialed back a little bit. Oh, thank you, Massa. I appreciate you giving me another spoon of hominy in my bowl. Oh, my goodness. Eric Peters with me, epautos.com. Let me grab a call here. And you here to talk with Eric? Morning.

Yes, sir. I am. Go ahead. A buddy of mine had purchased a fairly new, larger SUV, and we were talking about it. And I asked him, I don't know how the subject came up, but something about this, it had that start-stop deal. And I said, well, where's the starter on it? He said, it doesn't have a starter.

It has a motor generator. Yep. Yep. Okay. So I said, well, where is it? a starter, it has a motor generator. Yep. Yep. That's one of the ways they're trying to cope with it. The initial systems were really crude in that they used the conventional starter motor that all vehicles have had since the Kettering self-starter came around in the 20s. But people didn't like it very much because it was very obvious when the engine would

shut off and then kind of chug back to life. And they dealt with that by developing these belt starter systems, or generator starter systems which use a very high torque system to almost instantly spin the motor up. But that requires typically 48 volt electrical architecture and an additional lithium ion battery in addition to the 12 volt starter battery. So you can see where we're going down that road. Yeah. So you can see where we're going down that road. Yeah, so more expense and a 40. Do you have to replace the 48 volt battery from time to time too? Oh sure, of course you do. All batteries, doesn't matter what kind of battery, all batteries inevitably lose their capacity to retain a charge. So inevitably they will have to be replaced.

All right, there you go Steve. Thanks for the call. There's 7705633 talking with Eric Peters, ePiotto's.com. So we'll set aside the the ASS button here for a little bit. The next one here that you have on, I was reading it yesterday, ACC2, Advanced Clean Cars 2, coming to a dealership lot near you. Now, when I see anything talking about advanced clean cars, it's like, oh my gosh, what have the world improvers fashioned for us now? Yeah, you got to start with the verbiage, which of course is totally dishonest. It's not about clean cars. What it is is about pushing battery-powered electric cars, which in the regulatory argot are considered zero emissions because their emissions aren't created or emanating from the tailpipe. They just emanate from elsewhere at the electrical power plant. Anyhow, this is

another one of the pincers. You know, initially they tried at the federal level to force the manufacturers to build as many EVs as possible. Now they're doing it on the other end. They're essentially saying dealers at state and at states can only stock a certain percentage of vehicles that aren't battery-powered on an ever escalating basis to the point where by 2030 or 2035 States can only stock a certain percentage of vehicles that aren't battery powered on an ever escalating basis to the point where by 2030 or 2035, they'll only be allowed to sell battery powered electric vehicles. Oh, so they're just going to dial back the ability for a dealer to carry them.

Oh, they don't ban them, right? They don't technically, hold on, they don't technically ban them, Eric, right? Correct. They apply a $20,000 per car fine if you exceed your allotment. So let's say they say you have to have, this is where it starts, 35% of the vehicles on your lot have to be EVs. And if you have one car more than that, then that car gets $20,000 surcharge added to it in order to discourage people from buying it.

And this, by the way, comes to us not from the federal government, but from the California government, and not even from the California government, but from that regulatory bureaucracy called CARB, the California Air Resources Board, which set this forth for the state of California. And then a majority of the other states in the United States, if you can imagine this, decided, well, we'll do exactly the same thing. And they mirrored what CARB has ordered. So in pretty much all the populous states in this country, the same things are beginning to go effect starting in 2026. Now the Advanced Clean CAR 2, is this in Oregon? Do you know? I think it is because I'm pretty sure that Oregon mirrored CARB andose that requirement. Basically the same thing that

carb has imposed. All right, boy talk about the sliding something under the doormat in the dark of night, right? I don't think anybody made a big deal talking about this. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely ingenious. You know, they just eliminate, what they're doing is progressively eliminating all of the alternatives. First, the new car level. You know, you'll go down to your store to look at a car and the only thing there will be EVs. And the next step, I'm convinced, if this isn't stopped somehow, will be that they'll eliminate the alternative that we still have of keeping and driving the cars that we already have.

They'll do something like hit you with a $5,000 annual registration fee because you're driving a polluting car. Okay, well what happens next when we in Southern Oregon decide to go all Mel Gibson, road warrior, and just go up to Salem and just cut the heads off of everybody that's part of the regulatory state. How about that? I wouldn't necessarily go that far, but I do think that mass disobedience is the solution, just as it would have been during the pandemic if people and mosques had just said, no, I'm not wearing the stupid mask. You can't arrest everybody. Yeah, all right. Eric Peters with me this morning. That's what's coming.

Let me grab another one. Hi, good morning. You're with Eric Peters. Who is this? Yes, Chris, grass grass. Chris, fire away. Hey Bill, I sell heavy duty trucks. Okay, the state of Oregon has adapted

California Air Resource Board regulations. Okay, January 1st to 2026 is when we're starting to be built. You have to purchase one electric vehicle in order to get 13 internal combustion engines, which is limited to the Detroit DD-30s. And this is for heavy trucks. So you have to sell one electric truck, big electric truck, in order to buy enough engines for the other ones, right?

In order to get credits to sell 13 internal combustion engines. OK. The electric trucks don't have the capacity to even go to Southern California. They have to be trucked on a trailer because there's no infrastructure from here to California or wherever they're going. Okay.

Here's the thing. Oregon mandated this January 1st. We cannot sell a 2026 internal combustion engine. Okay. California has announced their incentives back in 2024. Oregon and Washington have not announced their incentives. So nobody is buying electric trucks in Oregon and Washington because they're $500,000 and the government has not announced their incentive program. So the trucking companies are basically SOL and so are we, selling trucks.

Well it's not just you guys who are selling them either. It's also North-South on the I-5 corridor? What was your name again, caller, from Grants Pass? Chris. I work in Medford, but I live in Grants Pass. I'm used to Medford right now. All right, so we have these rules already, just like what Eric was talking about. It just kind of got... Correct.

January 1st we've went five months with the inability to sell new trucks in this state unless they're 2025 the 2026s were dead thank you Tina Kotech thank you for letting us know about this uh know more about that it's because I remember the deal about the 2025 trucks and I thought they got that figured out I did not realize that it was just for this year. All right. Chris, thanks. A lot of states that jumped in on the carb opt-in have opted out since Trump came into office. But Oregon and Washington are sticking to their guns. Oh yeah, we're true believers. I should say Tina Kotech, true believers.

Chris, thanks for checking. Wow, I I didn't realize I mean that is as serious as a heart attack what Chris is talking about. It's going to have national implications it's an anvil hanging over all of our heads that's being held above our heads by a hair. It is going to have unbelievable ramifications and most people have no idea that this is coming. They'll know when the when the shelves are empty at some point. Well they'll know when whatever they're looking to buy you think it's expensive now wait and see how much it's going to cost in about two years from now. Especially when Chris is talking about you there's no

infrastructure to support the electric trucks and so you have to flat bed the truck across the border before you. They're truly useless you know most of the carrying capacity is taken up by the weight of the motors, or the batteries I should say, so it can't even carry much to begin with. And then it can't go very far. And then in order to charge the thing, you have to have essentially a facility that could power a small town. And this is what happens when you have a situation, a government situation, of people who are, well, the professional professionals, as I would turn them, including the politicians. Yeah, you know, that's one of the things that aggravates to me so much

because people like Kotech and Pritzker in Illinois and all these people you know they're multi millionaires if not billionaires and they're completely insulated from the consequences of the things that they're going to impose on us deplorables. All right thanks for keeping us up on this deal and it's called advanced clean cars too it's more guys it sounds like it's more than just the trucks like what Chris was talking about here too. Yep. Hey before we take off, 2025 Buick Envision and I know that you know you you always kind of your eyes glaze over with the crossover SUV because it's like

the only thing being made these days but what did you think about the Buick huh? Tell me. Well first of all there is still Buick which is interesting and the reason that there is a Buick and no longer a Pontiac and an Oldsmobile is because for whatever reason, Buicks are hugely popular in China. And that's where this Buick is made. They make it over there and they ship it over here. And the reason that that's relevant is that it's a very inexpensive, near luxury brand vehicle. It costs about $36,000 to start. Anything that's comparable to it, something like a BMW X3, let's say, or an Acura RDX, those things cost 10 grand more to start. This is a real bargain if you're not uneasy about participating in the

offshoring of manufacturing to China. They're made in China, but I see a lot of them on the road around here. Is the tariff affecting that, even though I guess they're made in China, but I see a lot of them on the road around here. Is the tariff affecting that, even though I guess they're being kind of rolled back temporarily? Not yet. You know, all of this stuff is like here today, gone tomorrow, maybe coming back next week. Nobody really knows. It hasn't yet, as far as I can tell, caused any dramatic spike in the published MSRP's of these vehicles. But the thing's worth a look. I mean, among other things, and I'm ambivalent about this because I personally am not a huge fan of it, but a lot of people like these big LCD touchscreens.

This thing comes with a gigantic 30 inch single sheet LCD touch screen. 30 inch touch screen? Yeah, the whole thing. One thing I do like, you can get it with a massaging seat. And that's still a relatively uncommon feature in vehicles that are priced under $50,000. Well, you can massage, well, you have a massaging seat, and that's still a relatively uncommon feature in vehicles that are priced under $50,000. Well, you have a massaging seat, rather, so that it could massage away the stress of you

worrying about what happens if this LCD screen breaks. I know. I know. The really interesting thing, too, is if you look at all these vehicles, whether it's a Buick, whether it's a BMW, whether it's an Acura, whether it's a Mercedes, they all have the same 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine. Isn't that interesting? Hey, at least it's a fourick, whether it's a BMW, whether it's an Acura, whether it's a Mercedes, they all have the same 2.0 liter four-cylinder engine. Isn't that interesting? Hey, at least it's a four-cylinder. Some of them they've been putting threes in like you've been talking. Three cylinders. Yeah, sure. Well, you know,

this is what defines a near luxury vehicle now. You get two liters and four cylinders instead of 1.5 and three. All right, it looks like we're getting ever closer to that red barchetta rush song as we've always talked about. I'm glad I got the orange barchetta parked in my garage. Exactly. That's right, the big orange barchetta. What do you have for next week, you know? Yeah, looking like a GMC Canyon, which is, again, it'll be interesting in that this thing used to be a compact sized truck, and now it's grown to nearly the proportions of an early 2000s full-sized truck. No kidding.

Yeah, and they all come lifted now. If you can imagine that, that trend has gotten to be so popular that you can't buy an unlifted iteration of that truck. Now, the most important question is, it's lifted, but does it have reams? Of course it does. They all do. They all do. Reams are inescapable.

You can't find a vehicle today, I don't think that has wheels that are smaller than 16-inch Reams the dumbest trend that we've ever had. Yep. Okay. All right another time Eric But thanks so much great stuff over on EP autos comm and thanks for hey Thanks for letting me know more about this truck situation and for listener Chris calling in too I had yeah, no idea more people that know about this the better the chance there is that we might be able to kick this back somehow. Good stuff. Thank you very much. We'll see you next week. Thank you, Bill.