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This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Greg Robert, standing by. We're going to be talking about the outdoor report here in just a moment. David is calling from the Bay Area. David, always a pleasure hearing from you. What's on your mind?

I guess this is your comment on President Trump post-China visit. He's headed home today. What's on your mind? Well, I was just watching C-SPAN a few minutes ago. He's doing a press conference in the air. He basically sold out Taiwan, and he said, oh, it's 9,000 miles away. We can't do a war 9,000 miles away. And so he's basically, you know, how conservatives say that competition is the best way to have capitalism, right?

Well, Indonesia, or not Indonesia, Taiwan is the competition to China, right? And so if we allow China to conquer Taiwan, then there's going to be less competition. Well, they'll certainly enjoy a major boost with HSBC, I think, is the company that is the founder of the major chipmaker in this world. it's still the majority. I know Intel, they're trying to boost Intel to do a better job of growing in the United States, but yeah, it's mostly coming from Taiwan right now. He said that we really couldn't afford a war 9,000 miles away. I think that's the quote that he actually issued. So is that a selling out of Taiwan or just admitting a reality of the situation? You know, because it's right next to China. China is not a tiny little power

at this point in time. How do you see it? Well, they're not a tiny power because the Republican party, all the way back to Richard Nixon, sold out American jobs, sent them to sweatshops in China, turn China not to a communist country, but China is a fake communist country. There's no way that China is communist if they have sweatshops. And if sweatshop China then decides to to conquer other countries, then you're going to end up with these huge monopolies and just make it worse. Okay, so let's just say that everything you said is true there, okay, and that it was a big sellout, Nixon goes to China, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, all right. Let's just set that a sign here.

The reality right now, does that change the reality that it wouldn't be wise to get in a war over Taiwan? I don't want war no matter what. And Trump went over there and sold America out. And there's just no way to look at it. He's, he is, you know, I've told you and a hundred other stations that Donald Trump is organized crime. He's not political. He's organized crime. He just snapped and grabbed. All right. Well, David, I appreciate the opinion. I don't know if I agree with you on that one. But, of course, I would almost say that politics is organized crime just at a higher level. It's normally the way I tend to look at it. Well, it's not funny.

Well, I'm not laughing at a ha-ha. It's kind of a little bit of irony there. But appreciate the call. All right. Thank you. David from the Bay Area. All right. We'll be back with Mr. Outdoors.

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Now more with Bill Meyer. Senior Outdoors, Mr. Outdoors, Greg Roberts at Rogueweather.com. Every Friday we do the outdoor. report. And that's sponsored by Oregon Truck and Autom Authority on Airway Drive in Medford. Greg, welcome back from rogue weather.com. So you were hanging out at the gubernatorial candidates meet and greet over the weekend. They had an interesting little talk and people asking questions, right? You're the one that actually clued me into the number one concern for at least people that were at that meeting the other weekend. It kind of had me scratching my head a little bit, but go ahead.

I'm sitting there, and the first thing they did in what we're talking about, Jackson County Republican Committee had five of the candidates for Republican for governor in the state that are squaring off in the primary coming up on the 19th. They had five of them, not the top two, by the way, not Chris Dudley, not Christine Drazen. Ed Deal was the highest rank of the candidates. who were there. Yeah, now the latest polling, oddly enough, though, has essentially a statistical dead heat, like 40% for Christine and 37% on dead deal. Chris Dudley having a little more trouble. He's going to be coming on the show a little later. We'll talk about that and see what his plan is. Yeah, but here's the interesting part. There's also a poll out today showing Dudley as the frontrunner over Kotech and over Drazen. Yeah, well, that is in a,

general election but we're not in the general election so everyone's going to talk their book right you know and so winning the um winning the primary doesn't necessarily win you the general and i'll understand that i understand that and so anyway um you know i knew about ed deal i knew about daniel and i just based her last name uh bethel thank you but there were three other candidates i had no idea were even in the race who showed up, Paul Romero, David Medina, and Wendell. And all of them were given time to talk about themselves, introduce themselves, talk about what they wanted to do. And, you know, it was a bunch of bromides and platitudes. And then the strange competition between the five of them about who's had it worse in their life, which,

Okay. Then they did a question for all the candidates based on questions from the Jackson County Republican Committee. And the very first one absolutely blew my mind and also disqualified all five. I wouldn't vote for any of the five because the question was, what are you going to do about Kim Trails and geoengineering? Any of the candidates spoke, I was like, you have got to be kidding me. This is the number one thing from the Jackson County Republican Committee? Yeah, who decided that? What's the most concerned about? Yeah, who decided that of all the issues out there, of all the issues? That's the number one. The state is burning down internally politically.

And we're going to ask that. That's going to be the litmus test in the, okay. And we have so, even here in Jackson County, I can say, start thinking of some things right off the top of my head. Land use property issues, the wolf issue. Geoengineering, I am even surprised that is an issue for Republicans until I started talking about it. Oh my gosh, is there ever widespread belief in Kim Trails and geoengineering in Republicans in Jackson County? Well, and the problem is though, now hold on here. Hold on. I have to interject here. There's a reason for this too. Okay. One of the, one of the issues is that there are,

there is black box budgeting for geoengineering. We also have our wonderful globalist, set that are already openly talking about, you know, gee, we need to spray sulfur, dioxide in various other cooling chemicals into the air, Bill Gates as an example. And I have the money to do it. In fact, we're going to experiment with this right now. So, So there's evidence that, you know, what they're openly admitting right now has been going on for a while. But the challenge you run into, though, is that every time there's a freaking line in the sky around here, I get a call. They're spraying us today.

I said, no, that's United Airlines going from San Francisco to Seattle. And I just get, it just makes my teeth hurt sometimes, Greg. It really does. It does more than make my teeth hurt. And by the way, the line items and budgets, that's really. money. Where is that money going to? Funnel money out to whoever you're funneling it out to, and you put it into things that, oh, people are concerned about this. Nobody is going to question spending here. And instead of one dime of it going to what it says it's going to, it's going to

Bernie Sanders. If you're politician, we know this has been going on for decades now. I'll give you an Oregon example. Years ago, they suckered so many of us into buying the salmon plate stating they were going to put all of this money into salmon research and helping our salmon runs, and all of us anglers thought, man, that's a great thing. It was Sal Esquivel who busted it. Over $9 million raised and only $60,000 went to anything even remotely close. Yeah, I know, but... And that was a website. Yeah, but that's not related to geoengineering in black box government, in black box federal government military budgets, okay?

It's the out there that, oh, everybody's going to care about and everybody's going to want to fund, but there's no guarantee they're actually going to spend the money there. Yeah. Okay. I don't want to go to, you know, I don't have time to be able to just go and do a whole flesh out here. but I have tired of for some reason that that is going to be the number one choice of Republican Party members. That is not true. It's absolutely flabbergasted me because you're not even passing first grade level science if you believe the Kim Trail. In the sky, people are going, look, they're spraying today.

And, you know, and we have much more jet traffic than we ever had back when we were kids. Way more. I'm going to one up you. Yesterday, not one single continent. Trail appeared in the sky in spite of the overflights of the Medford area. Well, you have to understand it's because they weren't spraying that day. No, it's because the conducive for it. And I agree with you, by the way.

Thank you. I'm being sarcastic when I say, they weren't spraying, Greg. They weren't spraying. It's just, like I said, makes my teeth hurt. Really does. I'm not saying that there's not weather experimentation in geoengineering, but every time you see the line in sky, it's not a spray. Stop it. People.

And then they talk about how, and then all of a sudden this came out of nowhere and the spray overspouts form. Heat coming from the surface, transporting water vapor up. That's why yesterday we were getting the cloud cover first showing up and the clouds that were showing up over terrain because it was the natural process. There was not one single bit of artificial process because in the atmosphere where the jets are flying, it was dry, stable air. Everything that would happen to create a cloud was coming underneath it. This morning, we've got low clouds all over Jackson and Josephine counties. Jets are overflying us. I haven't really taken a look, but I don't see a single contrail yet this morning in the sky.

All right. And this is what we is okay to talk about. But like I said, to have that be the number one issue just just makes my, once again, makes my teeth hurt when we have all these other issues going on. Now then, we can argue about other stuff. Now then, I only have a few minutes. Chris Dudley standing by. We're going to talk about the gubernatorial race. He's here.

It's all kind of jawbone with him in just a few minutes. So what are we setting up here for the next few days? It's going to be a cooler weekend, cooler weekend. And then are we going to be having any rain possibilities? And also a listener wants to know, is there a specific and official meaning of the word drought? Or is it just a relative term based on recent weathering rather than climate? Yeah, fire season did begin at 12.01 a.m. this morning in Jackson and Josephine counties. And there are a lot of people asking why.

Well, the reason why you want to declare fire season before you're having a lot of problems. The other thing it does is like logging operations, firewatch. now is a part of that. You gradually want to start. You want to start with low fire danger. We have that. And you want to be able to ramp up your resources, which they're in the process of doing, meaning the firefighters, the engines, all of that, before everything is burning all at once and you don't have enough resource to handle it. escaped open burns, and there were two yesterday in the Illinois Valley, escaped open burns are the leading cause of fire starts at this time of the year in Oregon. And when you declare fire season, as you're starting to really see escaped open burns, you want to do that before these things are really taking off becoming major issues.

But you know, and yesterday in the Illinois Valley proved that. It also proved they had it exactly right. When they said on Tuesday, we're declaring the start of fire season on Friday. And then yesterday we had the dramatic proof as to why they're making the right call in the Illinois Valley. And, yeah, we're going to progressively get drier. Our fire danger levels are going to be increasing. but now at least we're shutting off the major cause of what triggers fires at this time of the year, and along with this, campfires.

So people going out and going camping, please make sure your fire is absolutely dead out, cold of the touch before you leave it and head home. All right. Fair enough. I appreciate that, Greg. And as far as fishing, best place to go for this weekend. Well, right now, I have been talking about because we. didn't get the winter we normally get. The water is warmer in the lakes. In the last few weeks,

I've been saying fishing is as great right now as it typically is in June. On Tuesday, I saw pictures of trout at Diamond Lake, beautiful trout, already. And Copepods show up in warmer water. And if they're showing up at Diamond Lake at this point in the year, they're going to be on trout in every lake that we have in the area. Okay. Now, what is the Copepa pod? Copa pot is a parasite and they feed on the tissue of the trout. Have they been documented killing trout? No, but they can make it tougher on the trout because not only do they eat away on their skin, they can get into their gills and they are officially known as gill lice.

Trout that have copepods on them are safe to eat. I always skin them when they have copepods, but the other side of it is, because of the the warm water and the copepods are a dead giveaway, you can get very spongy flesh trout that the quality of them on eating them isn't the greatest. So that may be a problem here, too, that if you want to enjoy fresh trout, you really better be fishing the rivers and the streams like Union Creek and Mill Creek, where ODF and W is now doing their weekly stockings, because that water will be cold enough and the quality of the fish will be great and no copepods. But in the lakes, yeah, it's looking like it's going to be a very tough summer.

And then also as you get warmer water, trout mortality will go up when people are catching them, even if they're doing catch and release. So I've already had people telling me I'm not even going to target trout this year. I'm going to be after bass, another panfish, and I would agree with that, actually. All right, very good. Greg, I appreciate the update, and be well. We'll talk next Friday, and just enjoy yourself wherever you're headed out to, all right? Yeah, well, mostly where I'm headed out to is the comfort of home,

because next weekend Memorial Day is a very big one, and I will definitely be spending time at Boutnik because of the Sebastian Bach concert and the plush concert, of which Rogue Weather is co-sponsor. Of course. If there's a hair band or a hair band like, you're always going to be there. You will do. Yeah, but on the other hand, I'm also a co-sponsor of Pure Prairie League. Well, that's all right, too. Sure. Yeah, but music in general and Pure Prairie League is a legendary group, and I was so happy you had Sandy on yesterday. Great guy. Use your gift as a tremendous organization, and I'm very proud now to be a part of that. All right, a delight. Thank you very much, Mr. Outdoors. Greg Roberts atrogweather.com. We'll catch you next Friday.

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I'm Steve from Sky Park Insurance, and I'm on KMED. 736 at KMED. Friday the 15th, and we got a few days before they officially start counting the votes. What are the people wanting to be your GOP gubernatorial candidate of choice? Chris Dudley, Chris, welcome back. Thanks, Bill.

By the way, Chris, I appreciate you sitting down. I was joking with people that Chris is his tall sitting down. as I am when he's standing up. That's just the nature of having been a pro basketball player, 6, 7. And by the way, are you shrinking overtime? Well, I'm actually 610. Oh, you're 610. Yes, so even, so don't feel bad.

Okay. Now, I feel even worse now, sitting down. But in all seriousness, it's a, it's really interesting. It's the battle of the polls right now seems to be driving the GOP gubernatorial news cycle here. Yesterday there is a poll which came out, and I think this was talked about on KSLF with one of the error personalities there, that it's a neck-and-neck GOP race between Drezen and Ed Deal, 40 and 37 percent within the margin of error.

You have a poll out that shows, though, that you win the actual election or at least are competitive against Tina Kotech. Tell me what you're saying. Well, I think that first poll, you have to consider the source on that. It's just not a credible. That's not a real deal. Well, I talked with Ed yesterday. He says it's not from him.

Well, wherever it's from, it's an online. It says on the actual poll, it says, don't use, take this credibly because it's online. It's an opt-in. It's about, anyway, it's not a serious, it's not a serious. It's not a serious poll. Yes. Okay.

It's not a, it's not a, yeah, it's not a serious poll. But anyway, the, yeah, the big news was, yesterday or Tuesday the poll came out or Wednesday I'm getting my dad's mixed up that I'm beating Governor Kotech head to head which to me is what really really matters I mean obviously you have to get through the primary

but that I'm the only Republican candidate that beats her on a head to head and I'm up by four points and it's not to me it's nothing new we always felt that always knew that if if and we would talk about that that if you, as a Republican, if you want to make changes in the state, you have to win. And therefore, let's have a candidate that can win the general election. And I think, just going, you know, I've had the highest vote percentage of any Republican in the last, since 1982, when I ran in 2010,

came 20,000 votes from beating a very, somebody who was very popular, and this governor is not popular. So I did not find it surprising at all. And it's something we want to magnify and take advantage of. and let's hopefully able to earn everybody's vote in this primary and then go forward and do what really matters, which is to win in general election. I'm tired of the protest votes. I don't want another.

We need to win this election. How close did you come last time around? It was 20,000 votes. It was give the sports analogy that we lost in double overtime. That thought we had it won on Tuesday and lost on Thursday. And it was against somebody who ended up winning four elections. that we, it was incredibly close. And you have to have the ability to win in Oregon.

You have to have the ability to be able to resonate across party lines and resonate in the Tri-County area in Portland. And it's something I was able to do then and we'll be able to do now. Okay. Ed Deal, all right enough, just text me. I think his ears are burning. I guess. Okay.

And he says, what Dudley said is not true. It was not an opt-in poll. It is an independent scientific poll. He was, that you were talking about another survey that was done several weeks ago. Oh, well, I just whatever I got said. But take it for what it's worth. If you, if you, um, I mean, I

don't want to waste time on the polls, but, uh, well, obviously, this poll that you, that you're talking about, though, is one from today though, isn't it? Oh, yeah. That's one that you, yo, yeah. The one we did. Yes. Yes. You paid for this toll, this poll, though, right? Uh, yes, we did. It's, it's the same poll, Hoffman, which is

credible, which is, uh, had done the ones that the Oregonian hires. And so we wanted to get independent, somebody that it's the highest standard out there to do this poll, to show what we already knew. Yeah. Did this poll that you do, I don't have the results of the poll in front of me. Okay. So is this, did this also include other candidates other than you? Drozin.

And she was tied and we were up four. You're up four? Okay. All right. Yeah. And we were the only ones that showed that, uh, uh, uh, that we could win in general election. Chris, a major criticism of your campaign that has come in, I don't know if it's fair

or not, that's what I wanted to ask you, you're here, and so now's the time, that you've been trying to have it both sides, both ways on the pro-life or pro-choice issue here. And it's a big deal in the Republican primary, especially. And there are challenges, of course, when you're running statewide. So what is the truth? Because the story is that last year, Willamette Week, you had an interview in which you had talked about Well, I can tell you, so this is,

I don't know why this has become a story. Well, I do know why. It's the, the ugly side of politics where people are, well, send out things. And so my, Chris,

it's a litmus chat. No, but my position's been, my position's been clear since, uh, going back to 2010. And which is that personally,

I'm pro life. Uh, but I don't think government should make those decisions. I think family should. And that's the way I've, I've been. Just like I don't think government should mandate. vaccines. I want those decisions made by those personal decisions made by families. I am opposed to

a term abortion and I've been consistent in this forever and it shouldn't be, to me, this is such a personal decision for people. It's, and by the way, all the governor, all the candidates have said that as governor, they won't make any changes. So what's the, that's kind of where we are, because as governor, you can't make changes, unilaterally. And so I've been 100% consistent on this topic throughout. What is your plan if you are elected and then you do become governor, if you do become governor, how do you work change through what will be most likely an openly hostile legislature?

It may not be a super majority. We don't know how things are going to go this fall. But as it is right now, even with the Republicans in the minority, they've had a lot of difficulty getting anything other than, you know, breaking a few things and blocking some legislation. Yeah, no, exactly. Well, great question. And first of all, we got to get Brad Hicks elected down here, and we have to change, get out of that super, uh, super minority. And that's something that I think is Republican, and this is why we need change. This is why we need somebody from the outside coming in. I think coming in from the outside and having a governor that has a

business background, we haven't had that in over 40 years. And I believe that shows. But by, as governor, I will have come in with a mandate in that I'll be very clear on what the issues are I'm running on with education, the economy, safety, those core issues. And then you come in and you have the power of the patent and says, I'm going to veto anything that I don't agree with. And so that immediately starts the dialogue of having to work together. And then, you know, I'll go in there and I'll say, I dare you to fight for the status quo to my opponents, where we're ranked 50th for fourth grade education on a demographic basis. We're were ranked 47th in job creation, where we're number one in addiction and number one in mental

illness. Portland's ranked 80th out of 81 city. You can't make these numbers up. And so I think there's going to be a, and there's such a need. To me, Oregon is at a tipping point. We have to have people who come to the table and say, we have to have serious solutions for these serious problems. We are at a point where we can't keep going with the same status quo. We can't, Salem's problems will not be solved by somebody from Salem. We need somebody with the outside perspective who can bring people together to address these serious issues. How long have you been back in Oregon? 29, well, and I would argue not completely never left. We've had a house here the entire time. I had a foundation here for 30 years in business in Beaverton had my financial services business,

so it was back and forth. My family and I went down to, I followed after the 2010 election, my wife and I made the decision that I would not run again until the kids were out of high school. It can be tough on a family. And then my wife had a job opportunity. It was my turn to follow her lead. She had followed me throughout my sports career and business and running for governor. And so we'd always had a house in central Oregon and came back permanently. And I don't know if it was 2019, 2020, some of my life.

And so what makes it different other than the fact that your kids are out of school? What makes this race different and winnable in your view? Well, I think, and I didn't do this because I was trying to pick which race to go, it was really about just the idea. And I'd been involved in Oregon with Portland, with the Blazers, with different things going on, and just saw where we were. And my kids are six-generation Oregonians, and we're eventually going to have seventh-generation Oregonians and the idea of what are we leaving the next generation. And it really pains me when you

talk about where we are in education, where you're in the 50th or fourth grade, where we are in the economy. The whole idea of, to me, so many of, and what's happening in Portland, where it's literally on an economic doom loop right now, it's, to me, that's such self-inflicted wounds that We have such a great state here that we need to turn it around. And I felt like we needed somebody from the outside. I don't see anybody, frankly, on either side of the aisle who are running for office, running for the governor's race, who can bring people together. And that's what we need right now.

Now, being an outsider has its appeals. It also has its challenges, I think, too. So how do you end up grabbing the mechanism of the state administrators, the administrative state of Oregon, as an example? you'd be the superintendent of public instruction essentially is what you would be. Yes. But you've never worked within that structure at all. And how do you approach this?

It's like, well, think of President Trump first term, you know, in which had not done this before. And I think it showed in some ways. Yeah, well, and I think it's in, to me, I think it's advantage coming in. I think when you have, at this point, we need an executive leadership, not another legislator. And I think what you've seen with the partisan politics on both sides, it's not effective. And yes, we've had people there who've had years and years of experience. And yet we're 50. And 50.

Dead last in the nation. So you cannot argue that what having all this experience has been good. In fact, you would argue the counter. And I think coming in and being able to bring people in from the outside is actually an advantage coming in. with fresh eyes and having a business experience, understanding how things run, having executive leadership being the ability to bring people together to me as a real advantage that's needed right now, not another partisan career politician. All right.

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Well, I just wanted to thank Mr. Dudley here for his candid answer about the pro-life question. You know, I believe it was T.J. For guys don't know, that's Thomas Jefferson that first said. One of the main purposes and foundations of government is to protect our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So I just wanted to thank you that you made it very clear that that's not the stance you'll take for the lives of the unborn. It is what it is, but I want to make sure people heard what you said that it shouldn't be the government's choice to protect the unborn lives of children, that they're being sacrificed and murdered throughout our state at a multiple rate.

Okay, I will let, I will let, you want to respond to Logan's concern there? Yeah, Logan, and as I've said, personally, I am pro-life personally, and I believe strongly in that. I've just said as government, that's not the role I'm looking for. And frankly, all the other candidates have said the exact same thing, that they're not going to change it as governor. And they can't. And it's going to be a vote on the people. So, no, I appreciate your concern.

And as a man of faith, that's, I understand where you're coming from. And, but, yeah, I've been pretty clear on that from day one. All right. Holly, you are on with Chris Dudley. Go ahead. First of all, polls are driving me crazy because they're speaking all over the place, and it's hard to tell anything from those polls because the samples are small, they're individually paid for their, you know, and people tend to be a little fuzzy on how they describe what their polls are. But on the pro-life issue, I really have a concern of that, because it's not just the moral implication, which I think, you know, we all understand the moral implication, particularly those who are conservative. But in our state, we allow people to come from other states, come to our state and get an abortion which we pay for.

And so it's also a fiscal problem in addition to the moral problem. How do you suggest that we're going to handle that? Because we should not be a tourist destination for the abortion industry. If, you know, certainly I'm pro-life, and I don't agree with having it at all. but how would we handle that from the fiscal standpoint? Well, I think that's, you're right, and we should not be a tourist state for abortion, and I agree with you, and I would work to not have that be the case. And again, it's something that I want to promote adoption.

I want to promote life. I don't want to do everything we can to promote the culture, but promote families, and I don't think we do enough of that in our state, and it's something that's going to be critically important going forward as governor. All right. What about the, essentially, we are also a transgender surgery destination resort, if you want to call it that. And as governor, is that anything which is on your mind? Well, and I believe in parental notification.

I believe for the parents to make decisions. I believe that we, you know, I've had a, I've been pretty clear about this. I've had a commercial that's aired talking about this, where, I don't think biological males should play in women's sports. And that's something I've been very outspoken about. And I do think we've gotten to a place where it just doesn't, a lot of what we're doing, it doesn't make sense. And that's why I've been so outspoken about it and talking about that in sports,

you want women just to be able to play women's sports and not allow biological males to do so. otherwise doesn't, and to me it's a matter of fairness and frankly of safety. And that's one thing, but what role should the state of Oregon's either it's a Oregon Health Agency, the Oregon Health Authority rather, or just the Oregon Department of Education, what should their role be as far as counseling and or conditioning? Because that has been a concern of many listeners. Amy, it's one thing to have, you know, the dude in the dress playing against the girls.

Okay, we get that. That's one thing. but the fact that it seems to be so much part of the educational mother's milk. What would you do or what could you do as governor? Well, I've been very outspoken about education, that it's a top area that we have to get back to teaching the fundamentals and get away from the other areas. I don't like we have to focus. I don't like what's happening in our schools in many areas. I was just talking with someone in central Oregon about this.

where 11-year-olds are being taught about different ways of having sex. There's no reason an 11-year-old should be being taught that in schools. What power would you as governor have to affect that? Well, as the superintendent of schools, you have the power to set the agenda. And as much as possible to say, and obviously it gets into local versus statewide, but from the top, say, we have to focus, we have to have what is age-appropriate, and we have to, more importantly, get even more focused on the core fundamentals of teaching, reading, writing. You know, get back to those basics.

I don't like it when you hear that when Oregon kids from Oregon high schools graduate and go to community college, 40% of them need remedial classes when they're going to community college right now. We're not getting done what we should be done in the schools, and we need to focus on the core issues is, I don't want to send my parents, my kids to school and have the teacher undo what I'm teaching them at home. I want them to be able to teach them to read. I want them to be able to teach them to do math. Those are, that is what I want. Chris, we saw the situation, you know, the encounter with Ed Deal at Dorchester.

What happened with that? Ed says that Ed claims that, you know, you said that you're going to kick his ass over the, I think that's the quote over the, the abortion talk. No, no. It's and that's what, it's just unfortunate. I mean, obviously, campaign should expose character, but, I mean, you were sitting there, you were not letting them go.

Oh, I gave my hard hands. What was going on? I gave him a hard handshake, and I told them I didn't appreciate some things. But, you know, that's, you know, I came a hard handshake. That's, you know. What were you talking about? Maybe I'm old school. That's not,

that's not a big deal in, uh, Chris, what did you say? I don't even matter. I think I may have called them in ASS, but, you know, and I'm not alone in that. I think, you know, a number of the other candidates feel the same way. But, you know, so be it. You know, it's, that's wife. And a hard handshake isn't that big a deal. All right. We don't have much time left with Ed Deal. I'm sorry with Chris Dudley. We're just talking about that deal. Pardon me. Yeah. But hi, you're on caller. You're on with Chris Dudley. Go ahead. Morning. Hi, yeah. I have a question for Mr. Dudley. I'm actually wondering about wild fires. I feel like ever since, gosh, all the way back to like maybe the biscuit fire, there was like a major presence, like the grayback started and everything. But like just recently, the fire that was started was started by the back burning or whatever got out of control.

And I'm just wondering like our taxpayers going to be paying for that. And I feel like these fires are for profit. And are you going to make any changes with that? Like maybe introduce more logging rather than misburning by young adults that maybe aren't knowing what they're doing. And who's financially responsible? Are these companies getting double paid by being, you know, I don't know. Let's see what he has to say. Thank you very much for the call.

Yeah, no, and I do feel like right now with timber and with logging, our states in a lose, who's whooos, where we've really gotten rid of so many jobs. We've lost revenues for the counties, and I would say environmentally, the catastrophic wildfires are bad environmentally as well. And so I want us to better manage our forests and increase that production. And obviously, you have to figure out liability when fires start where they've come from. But I do think it's pretty clear that we need to do a better job of managing our forest than we are today. Chris, you are in town, obviously, since you're here. And are you at any events that people can go see you or meet you.

So we're at lunch. What's the dog? There's a fundraiser tonight that I'm going to. I was at the event last night for the Oregon Historical Society, which was very interesting, talking about the Revolutionary War. We're doing a lunch today. I can get you the information. Give you good.

Yeah, I'll give you the information where it is. Have your people get in touch with my people, which is me. Yeah, exactly. I'll get you the exact details. And we were here yesterday. We're here all day to day. And it's important to be here, and I really appreciate you having me on. Chris Dudley, we appreciate you. Thank for coming. Thanks for coming. And best luck. We'll see what happens on Tuesday. Thank you. I appreciate it. We'll see what the voters say. Yes, absolutely. Let's go win.