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Episode Date: May 27, 2025

Some open phone topics start the hour, State Rep Dwayne Yunker wants to pull the wildfire repeal bill to the floor, Dems want to hold it hostange. Former State Senator Baertschiger weighs in on it all.

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Well, it's afternoon in Great Britain. You know, it's a universal time. Sure. That's a great story Britain. It's universal time. Sure. That's a great story. My relatives are from there. I can't. And that's a longer story. But as they say, we were doing gardening ourselves yesterday.

Yeah. And we got in the Eagle Point area, so we got to see the jets fly by. They actually almost flew by so close, it looked like they were doing waving at us. No kidding. And that. It was great. And then I was just watching on the other channel, like a channel 5 news, where Ron Wyden was sitting on the benches with the rest of the folks. But it looked like he had his eyes closed. Maybe he had a seasonal allergy or he was napping. I just wonder if any of the other smart guests here

are going to notice that, maybe close down. So thank you and have a pleasant day. All right. So Ron looked a little sleepy, you said, huh? Oh, he was on television there. On the camera, just passing by all the folks and his eyes were definitely closed. Okay. Well, it could be it's a hardworking Senator. Okay.

There we go. It's a good thing that we are. We are just great to see that whatever's coming back to America. All right, will do. Andy Murphy's coming back to America. Thanks, Gregory. All righty. Number here is 7705633. Do I have, did I lose my Diner 62 quiz? There was a Diner 62 quiz left for me and in my paperless office I have lost it within the paper.

Okay, maybe we are going to have to have that a little bit later. All right, we'll get that. How could I have lost my Diner 62 quiz? All right, hang on, we will do that. A little bit of open phone time will then continue and then we have State Senator Herman Bershiger who will be joining me here in the next few minutes. We'll continue for the final 30 days or so in the state legislative session. This is when all the danger really kicks into high gear. More and more listeners are saving real money

by calling Sky Park Insurance. Here's Cathie Com or 855-815-GOLD. You're hearing the Bill Meyers show on Southern Oregon's Home for Conservative Talk. Mornings on KMED at 99.3 KBXG. Call Bill at 770-5633 at 770-KMED. Here's Bill Meyers. After a long Memorial Day weekend of weeding, maybe solemn remembrances of war dead. I'm happy to turn the phones over to you here a little bit. 7705633, Dave's here.

Hello Dave, good to have you on. You were thinking about the... Well, I was thinking about some Vietnam vets that didn't die in combat. They died at a very old age, but you know they were still casualties of the Vietnam War and then of course my dad's ashes are buried there at the VA and I couldn't go there because I didn't have the gas to make it but and I would have been disappointing to see the third senator from Connecticut or wherever he's living at now. Yeah, where is Ron living these days, you know?

But anyway, so... By the way, what is it about that that we seem to... I mean, we laugh about this, right? We laugh about this, but this ability to claim a residency when you're really not a resident, although he is here quite often though, right? Isn't that odd that we kind of tolerate that? Well, you know, he's married to a very wealthy woman,

probably can afford the airplane tickets back here when he needs to come. But, you know, I also wanted to say that I got my pardon application file too. I did it Friday night. I resubmitted it because I made some corrections on Saturday night, on the last night or whatever. And so now I'm just going to have to wait two or three or four months to see what happens. All right, Dave.

Appreciate the call. Thank you. 770-5633. Let me go to, if John, hello, John. What's on your mind today, huh? Hey, Bill, I'm stuck down in Lake Shastina with a beautiful view of Mount Shasta working on one of my properties. It's a beautiful day. It's a nice time to be stuck there, I suppose.

Yeah. Well, with one exception, Bill. Liberal radio mass insanity. Oh yeah. What do you hear? The only station I can get is NPR and Jefferson Public Radio. Oh boy. Talk about the- I've never listened to those two channels and I'm working on my buildings here and painting and listening. Oh my God, Bill, I had no idea how liberal and what a liberal bias slant it has. It's incredible. From what you've heard, what is probably the most interesting take on an issue that you would say, you know, it just isn't so? Does anything come to mind? Just curious. Well, if you can look at it, you know what it would be like if you didn't watch TV

for a few years and then you turned it on? This is the shock that I see because I'm not subject to that I see because I'm not subject to the influence. There's definitely a liberal bias. There's definitely anti-men, and there's definitely lowest common denominator. I mean, it's a theme after listening to it for a few days, it's the theme of, oh yeah, you don't have to try. You don't have to do better. Whoever's the lowest common

denominator, that's who we're going to go with. And it's never their fault, right? And there's no accountability, it's never their fault. I mean, it's just, it's blatant, anti-men, anti-white men, you know, pro-color. I'm not a racist at all. I want all races to level up and do their best, right? But that's not the vibe that you get from National Public and Jefferson Public Radio. I've always found it interesting the tone that is taken on on public radio in NPR in general there almost seems to be a school I think that that extrudes them you know kind of like a Play-Doh fun factory thing in which you always keep your voice down in this particular level

and you never really get incredibly excited because that would be bad you know there's never anything really exciting except maybe to add that Trump... Oh, wait a minute, did I say that out loud? Okay. Then you can get excited. What you see, Bill, is there... if you can be objective to it, and I can be objective, and I can also glean some of the cool things that I'm listening, but if you listen to it constantly, you're gonna get, it's all about, and it's totally scripted, right? So it's all about generating feelings

is probably my biggest takeaway, to play on people's heartstrings, to feel, right, for a lower common denominator and not like the message Trump gives, pull yourself up and make it happen. Do something with your life. And this is not what you get from liberal radio hysteria. All right. I appreciate the opinion on that. Thank you very much. Good job, John, hearing from you rather. It's a 23 minutes after 7 and we will go to line 3 here. Good morning. This is Bill. Hi, who's this? Hi, who's this?

Good morning, Bill. It's Wild Seven. Hi, Steve. How are you? Hi, Steve. How are you? Well, I'm getting sort of tired. My wife has really been ill lately. Oh, I'm sorry. You tell me about that. I know many people, quite a few people who are struggling with some relatives in some real medical challenges. And your wife has been there for quite some time from what you've told me. Yes, she has. And look, you were talking about COVID. And it's, I volunteer for one of the hospitals is a ham radio operator. And the first thing they ask you is have you had a COVID shot?

Well, I don't know what that has to do with anything today because that's all been debunked, but they're still sticking to that. So those protocols are still hanging in in various institutions? Really? Yes, it is. And on the same subject of the hospital, my wife is a diabetic and she has an insulin pump. And the first thing they wanna do is to take that off because they say that they can handle it. And I argued with them and argued with them

and I said, okay, fine, but don't let her blood sugar go above 230. That's a critical point because if your blood sugar goes above 230, your body goes into a really scared like it's starving to death because you're not getting any glucose. Alright so they wanted the pump off of her and that they would handle it and monitor it themselves. Has that been happening? Yes and so the next thing 12 hours later her blood sugar was 300. And see, the insulin pump measured, well, it's not the insulin pump, there's two parts to it.

There's a glucose monitor, and then the insulin pump talked to each other. But it looks at her blood sugar every five minutes. The hospital was taking finger stick blood samples every four hours. Now, let me ask you here Steve, this is, and I'm not criticizing hospitals for needing to make money, okay, trying to find a way. This strikes me as if they have the insulin pump taking care of your wife's insulin problems and

monitoring blood sugar every five minutes, that removes a billable aspect to her stay and care. Could that be what's going on? That didn't even cross my mind. I'm just thinking of her health. And they kept hassling me about it. And this last time she was in there, they gave me this paper to sign that said if I was going to do her insulin, because I have to monitor it a little bit, and there's, you know, the infusion set and stuff you have to change, but they said I had to stay there 24 hours a day or they were going to take the insulin pump off. That makes no sense. I know. Well, you can't believe how frustrating I was.

Yeah, well, that strikes me that if they can't control it as well as the insulin pump, this kind of goes back into, this sounds like they're trying to do billable items here and you boost the bill because maybe just monitoring the insulin pump, which sounds like it does a better job because it's being monitored more often than the finger stick every four hours, would seem to be a better outcome. I would raise some stink over that one, Steve. Well, there's no place to raise the stink too because it's all into this giant, I don't know if you call it a maze or cabal or whatever. There's nobody to argue with. They won't listen to you. Which hospital? I don't want to say. She might have to go back.

Oh, she's not in there right now? Okay. No, she's actually in a skilled nursing facility. They put you on a list like they did the government when you didn't take the shot the hospital I'm afraid you won't get care you know yeah I'm I'm really that's that that's sad you know to hear that this stuff is still going on here that they're still that they're still down that protocol all these years after we know better Steve. Yes well and the insulin thing they they do four finger sticks every four hours and then I say they have this

sliding scale and when my wife's blood sugar got to 300 I said okay what are you gonna do to fix it well they said we're gonna give her four units of insulin well I know how much insulin it takes to drop her blood sugar and four units of insulin would drop it from 300 to 295. Yeah, I would find some way to fight on that insulin pump thing. If the insulin pump controls it better, I would find a way if I were you, Steve.

I know you've got a lot of burden there. Even the American Diabetes Association says all that stuff. But the hospital has got their protocols. Wait, you say protocols are choices. Protocols are choices. Yeah, protocols are not law. Protocol is the choice that they're making.

That's kind of what I'm getting at. Well, you know, it's my protocol that you're going to pay me to stick your wife every four hours instead of monitoring the insulin pump, which works better. Which works better? You're preaching to the choir, but the hospitals are like the police department. They have some kind of immunity or something. Yeah, yeah, and a certificate of need if you actually wanted to compete with them. All right. Steve, I'm sorry to be frustrated with you on your behalf there, but I get it. Okay?

Thanks for the call. I got gotta go. Man, you know, anytime you're talking about these kind of medical things, it's like the lack of logic and completion, it's like, okay, we can't monitor and keep her blood sugar under 300. The insulin pump can, but well, we can't do the... we can't monitor the insulin pump, but we can bill you every four hours for for Sticks, and I'm sure the stick probably I'm sure the stick in the monitoring probably cost What two hundred bucks each time that they have to stick the the stick in his?

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as he's headed north towards the Marble Nut House. All right, Duane, we got a few days left here and all sorts of things being held hostage. What's top of your mind this morning, huh? The fire bill, BAP, to the bill 83. I would like to pull it to the floor out of the rules today, but I have a caucus, so I pushed that out there, but we'll you know I I don't want to play by the democratic rules I want to play by my own rules so how does it work because I know you tried to what was the the bill you tried to pull to the floor

the other day to try to get a vote on that I just forgot off the top my head we were talking about last week and now it's you know the holiday the holiday has make me forgetful okay welcome too much hard labor for you bill yeah I know I was house bill 2432 that was the repeal HP 315 oh the homeless yeah the homeless bill thank you thank you for for refreshing my having worked too hard over the weekend kind of thing here. Now, how does that actually work when you try to pull a bill to the floor here? So now you're going to try to pull the fire map repeal bill, which by the way was voted for and approved by the Senate. So, you know, it just... Yeah. So what it does is you just,

during the beginning of the, when you're on the floor, they have a place called Propositions and Motions. And that's when you would go up and you'd hit the button to speak and then I moved to pull whatever bill it is to the floor. You're pulling it right out of the committee. So when you make

a bill, so like say I have a bill, that's my bill, it gets assigned to a committee. Now that committee chair does not have to have a hearing on your bill or anything. It can go there to the committee to die essentially, right? Exactly. It can go to die. You can set bills or rules to die, or ways and means to die, because they don't ever get a hearing. So, I could just do a motion to pull it to the floor for a vote. I brought this up yesterday to some of our caucus people. There's some that say yes,, a lot of silent unknowns, and I figure they want something from the Democrats.

That's why they're not speaking. Oh, see, that's what's causing these problems. There are Republicans who want something from Democrats, and this is why you were talking about how Kevin Mannix and... Is it Javidi? Is that how you pronounce the name? They ended up you know voting for the tolling bill, right? Javidi, yeah. Javidi, okay. I can only assume that you're wanting something or something passed from the Democrats because that's the only way to

leverage you know, well I'll give you my vote. Yeah, but you give them tolling. Gosh, unbelievable. Unbelievable. Which I don't understand why they would vote against, why they would vote for tolling. Neither one of them are in the Portland area, and they allow Portland Democrats to vote no on polling. So it doesn't make sense. I mean, I know there's some bills that are kind of iffy is you're like, OK, I can vote for that. Not me, but you know, some people are in these purple areas. But people don't like taxes. They don't want to be taxed.

Not even Democrats want to be taxed on the road, right? Exactly. So these are winning issues for Republicans. Why would you give Democrats cover under bipartisanship? Yeah. What do you, how do you think, now you're there, if you try to pull this wildfire bill map repeal, you know, the one that the Senate worked and hey, they sent it over to the House and it's now, you know, sitting there being held hostage. That's a Hail Mary, but it could happen, right? It'd be a high lift, but there may be enough people that don't necessarily want the wildfire repeal held hostage to stealing the kicker, or would I be wrong on that? So I think you're right. I had a conversation with the actual chair of that committee,

because that happened on Thursday, last Thursday they got voted. And I'm pretty sure he was told he will send it to rules with my conversation. He just told me, you know, I had to do what I had to do. So that means that he was told that you must set it to rules so the speaker and the governor and all of them can leverage it for getting money for the, you know, wildfire, you know. Yeah. Yeah, they don't want to pay. I'm with Noah though when he says that wildfire fighting, that sort of thing, is something which is just a normal part of state government activity and shouldn't need a particularly onerous extra tax to fight. Something that they've

been doing for decades, for a long time here. There's no need to... The main purpose though is to increase the amount of money coming in so they can spend it on the other stuff like, well, buying porno books in the schools, which of course you've been fighting. I know that. Yeah, I don't want to leave the governor any money in her coffer and the general fund to spin it her way. That is bad. That is bad for us. You know what I'm saying? All right. Well, throw that Hail Mary, Representative. Okay. All right, well throw that Hail Mary, Representative, okay? I'm open to do that. I've got to have support.

But you know what, I might just do it no matter what. All right, all the best to you, Dwayne. I appreciate you willing to not fight using Democrat rules, okay? We appreciate that. I appreciate it, Bill. Thanks again. State Representative Dwayne Young, he's on the road. I want to let him get back to concentrating on the road but he'll keep us in the room I'm sure.

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Visit MontanaRoofingServices.com. Hi, I'm Mark with Oregon Truck and Auto Authority, and I'm on KMED. Everything's about catching up and opining on where we're headed here in the state legislature this morning because we're into the final days, the next 30 days or so before signing a language can come soon enough. Former state senator Herman Barachiger here. And Herman, always great to have you back. And you're probably looking at the news and thinking, oh, those poor sons of guns, you

know, having to go back up to Portland or up to Salem, right? Well, first, let's start with Wyden, our worthless senator that doesn't represent all the state of Oregon, just his supporters in Portland. And I looked at his statements on his town hall meetings, and all he talked about is spend, spend, spend. This guy is perfectly comfortable saddling our children and our grandchildren and now our great grandchildren with all of this debt so he can live comfortably in New York, collect a check from the federal government, and stop by the state of Oregon at his convenience,

the people that he's supposed to represent. Now there's something I've been wondering about here, Herman, and that is why is it that he is allowed to for, I mean everybody knows that the real, that the real residents is outside of the state of Oregon. Are there special rules that allow senators to kind of live wherever they want? Is it like for a certain amount of time of the year? Or if you have an apartment in or a condo in Oregon that counts or what do they do it goes it goes back to the horse and buggy days you know where it took a big effort to

get to Washington DC so and and the Senate has never changed that so that So, he's not breaking the law. But this isn't 1878, this is 2025. And most people that have some morals, obviously he's not one of those, would reside in the state and spend their free time in the state talking to the constituents. He does these 15 minute or let's say hour town hall meetings. He runs around, he does two a day. He says, oh I visited all the counties this year and boom I'm good to go and back to my hotel or my apartment in New York with my wealthy wife. I find it fascinating.

One of the things he complained about in the big, beautiful bill, he doesn't like the big, beautiful bill. I'm going to talk with Cliff about this at 8.30 when he comes in, you know, Congressman Cliff Pants. And one of the things he's upset about is getting rid of the tax stamp on suppressors. Of course, I would have loved to have heard him pronounce suppressor, but... Out of all the things in the world in that bill, I don't like getting rid of the tax, $200 tax stamp on the suppressor. On the suppressor.

That's a moron. On the suppressor. Well, the thing is that it's, it astounds me that that whole thing about the NFA classification on suppressors was all done back in the 1930s, supposedly to fight the mobsters. You go overseas, suppressors, which by the way don't make a gun silence. Hollywood has done more to fool people like Senator Wyden or maybe Senator Wyden just likes to be fooled about this, he knows better. But you know, suppressors don't make a gun silent at all. It just reduces the hearing damage if you were to have the suppressor on. It brings it down from insanely loud to just really loud is what it does.

That's all it does. Yeah, it's not a silencer. It's a suppressor. Yeah. It's a muffler just like a muffler doesn't make a car silent. You can still hear the car, right? You know, it's that same kind of thing. But people like Ron Wyden would not know which end of the gun the bullet goes in, you know?

So he doesn't understand any of that and he doesn't want to. I had a friend that used to work for him as a staffer when I think he was a congressman first, wasn't he, a number of years ago think he was he was a congressman first wasn't he number of years ago no he was in the legislature or legislation oh it must have been when he was in the state legislature that that Ron didn't know how to put oil in a car when they did a stop one time and he probably doesn't know how to plug in his Tesla either yeah could, could be, could be. Probably has a staffer do that. But the guy is wise enough to know that all he has to do is please that voting base in Multnomah, Washington, and Clackamas County, and he's elected. That's all that matters. That's what everything is done to

placate, I suppose. All right, well, I don't know what we do about Ron for right now here and Merkley. Merkley's not much better, really. The one thing I will give Ron Wyden one point, though, there is one thing that I think he's been pretty good on. And even if I didn't necessarily like his point on the thing, he was pretty good on, well, at least he used to be pretty good on civil rights issues, I guess, until you're wanting to put a silencer or a suppressor rather on your firearm then he doesn't like civil rights. Like I say he just placates to his base up in Portland. But you know if you look at Portland, I was just having a discussion over boat leaklick weekend down at the park with some folks.

And they're saying, how do we change this? I said, you're not going to. I said, I've given up. I've looked at those people in Multnomah County. And I can't connect with them. I don't understand them. They have the highest taxes between the state of Oregon, Multnomah County, and the city of Portland. The property values have declined. The livability is really declined in Portland. And people are moving out because of the issues there. And the real estate in downtown Portland, in some cases, is down almost 60%.

And yet these people keep voting for these idiots. Now, is it a... do they connect it with the decline or not? They must not. I don't... I... I don't know. And until that changes, you know, it's just... they have more numbers, Bill. All right. Herman, of course, you're an old hand, of course, having been a former state senator. You led a couple of walkouts and you were quite successful here.

And the stuff that you led the walkout for all those years ago is back. And now they're openly talking about cap and trade. And do you believe that they are serious because these not even Democrats what a lot of those fuel costs rising you know don't be so surprised don't be surprised okay don't be so surprised yeah well no bad idea ever goes away from that capital let me tell you that's the first let's start there and and now that you you know, I see, you know, Kotech wants to steal the kicker. The Democrats don't have enough courage to do that on their own.

So now let's go, let's put some threats out there. Let's put the threat for, and that's what is going on, Bill. So let's put the threat of cap and trade. Let's hold the wildfire map, Bill, hostage. And so maybe if we do that, we can get some Republicans to vote to take back the kicker, some Republicans like Anderson, Senator Anderson over on the coast, and some of these people in the swing districts and help because the Democrats will not carry all the water on taking back the kicker.

They have to have some Republican votes. Even if it's only one in the Senate and one in the House, that'll do it. It'll be bipartisan. As long as they can say bipartisan, you peel away one squish. That's all it takes. One or two squishes aside. And so how you do that is with all this other stuff. So, oh, you know, Senator, so and so, you're, you know, you're a hero. You saved our wildfire map repeal and you killed, you killed a cap and pray. Yeah, well, guess what? You also killed our kicker.

So that's what's going on, Bill. That is a team of co-tech operation, if I've ever seen one. Do you believe, though, that the fire repeal bill will be just effectively killed in this situation by tying it to taking the Kipker for firefighting? Yeah, it's repealed. They know that means a lot. And you know, it just goes to show you they're they're willing to throw the senator golden under the bus, too So I mean that thing flew out of the Senate unanimously right just flew

Now it's in rules in the house. Oh Come on So give me a read on the politics of this They're willing to hurt Jeff golden because Jeff Golden, Jeff Golden spent a lot of political capital I would imagine doing this, right? Getting this passed. Yep. Yep. And they probably thought, you know, maybe you don't know what the conversations behind the scenes. Maybe Golden's not going to win or win. Run again. Oh, okay. Okay. So maybe maybe Senator Golden said, Hey, I'm not going to run again. This

is behind the scenes. So they you know, they're going to push Pam Marsh into that position. Oh boy, here we go. And so so they already know, hey, we don't mind throwing Golden under the bus because he's never going to get back on the bus. And we got Pam Marsh is going to take that slot. And Pam's fingerprints won't be on it. It won't be the failure. So they don't care. What you're telling me then is that they're dangling out the taking of the kicker because

they know, they realize that is just too that is too far gone there'd be too much resistance to this or do you think they'll get the kicker on this i think they i think there's a very good possibility that cotech gets the kicker boy yeah and who knows what other stuff is in the hopper that they're trying to trade? Who knows what they're going to offer these people in these swing districts? Hey, you know, you vote for this and you'll save the day, you'll save the fire map repeal, and we'll give you a new aquarium in Seaside. So, it's big money. And whatever it is though, whatever it is you see in the headlines,

that's not the real deal though, is it? That's kind of what you're telling me. It's behind, it's what's not being talked about. It's most likely throwing Jeff under the bus, etc., etc., and moving forward. Oh, it's 35 chess moves going on, Bill. And, you know, I'm not up there, so I don't know all of them. I just know what's going on. Okay. And that's, Tina does that. She, or Governor Kotek, she does that. That is what she has always done. And hey, you want this? This is what you got to do. So look for more of the kicker. The kicker will be given away,

and the wildfire repeal will happen or not? If you're a betting man, what are the odds? If they keep the kicker money, the wildfire map will be repealed. Okay, but does anything really change because 762 is not getting repealed, just the aspect of the wildfire map? So... Yeah, there's some things, but getting rid of the map affects a lot of other pieces in that bill. So you're actually getting rid of other stuff, not all of it. And you know, Bill, I'll be honest, there's some stuff in that bill that is okay, you

know. But at the end of the day, though, oh, I hate that at the end of the day. These people in Salem do not understand throwing more money at wildfire protection and resources and stuff is not going to change the dynamics of wildfire in Oregon. The only thing that'll change wildfire dynamics in Oregon or California or seven western states is fuel reduction. So we either do fuel reduction or Mother Nature is going to do fuel reduction. Period. And there still really isn't the will to do fuel reduction, right? Oh no, we might have to cut a tree. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you can have a hundred billion dollars of resources for wildfire suppression and you get a 20 mile an hour wind,

they're all going to sit and watch. Cap and trade, how serious by the way, you think? Oh, they would love it. I don't think it has a chance, but it's a big threat. Okay. They would love it because it is so much money. They will drown in money if they get cap and trade, because it is basically, to simplify it, a tax on carbon. And a tax on carbon is a tax on life and activity is all that is. Exactly, you got it.

So I try, you know, they use cap and trade, oh, and it sounds, but it's basically a tax on carbon. Anything that produces carbon gets taxed. And if they ever get it in Oregon, the Democrats will literally drown on money and you'll probably see twice as many homeless. Yeah, and the people will be poor, of course. All right, former Senator Herman Barachuk,

we always appreciate you coming in. Thanks for checking in, all right? Really appreciate that. All right, Bill, you take care. And by the way, how was Boatnik? I was so busy with my own yard, I didn't hit up this time. What's up? Oh, it was fabulous.

The weather was great. You know, I set the reef. This is like my 30th year doing that. Had a great, great guy, Captain Kirby Smith, veteran from Vietnam. Gosh, that guy was incredible. Had a long conversation. You know, that's one thing I really enjoy.

Is every year I get to spend a couple hours with these veterans that, that helps set the reef and you really hear their stories. This guy had two bronze stars, a silver star, all kinds, and he very well decorated purple heart and everything. And it just, it just makes you sit back in your chair and appreciate the sacrifice that these people do it's just it's just the breath it's just unbelievable but anyway Boatnik was great hey we had a rookie Houston Eli. He come in and won the boat race, or Eli, I mean, Eli, Eli. His dad raced, his granddad raced. It was great. Oh, it was just great weekend.

Glad to hear it was a good one. Grant's past needed a good weekend after all that arguing about homeless and such. And I guess there's going to be more of that yet to come, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. All right. Stand by. Thanks, Armin. We Oh yeah. Stand by. Thanks, Harvind. We'll see you next week. Bye. A couple minutes before eight. This is KMED, KMED HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass.

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And we have a really interesting story. Today in history, May 27th, 1943, U.S. Olympian Louis Zamparini's plane goes down in the Pacific. He was the subject of that book Unbroken. Did you ever see that movie? I have not seen that movie yet. You have? Yes. All right.

Well, he was born in 1917 to Italian immigrants, grew up in Torrance, frequently in trouble with the law, and as a teenager he channeled his energy into athletics, became a champion distance runner. And at the age of 19, he competed at the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin, ran the 5,000 meter race, finished in eighth place. However, his final lap caught the attention of Adolf Hitler who later asked to shake Zamparini's hand. After the Olympics he was a record-setting standout at the University of Southern California's track team. Well Cathy, in the fall of 1941 Zamparini enlists in the US Army Air Corps, eventually stationed in Hawaii. In May 1943, he was bombardier on a B-24, searching for a missing plane when his own aircraft

developed mechanical problems and went down in the Pacific. Scary time, right? Of the 11 people on board, only Zamparini, along with the pilot and the tail gunner, survived the initial crash. The question for us this morning, for the win here, Kathy, is how long were the men adrift in the Pacific before they were picked up by the Japanese? So we have five choices, all right?

One of them is 17 days, B, 32 days, C, 47 days, D D 62 days, or E 77. What do you say? I'm thinking 32 days. 32. I'm sorry, Kathy. Okay. Wasn't that. But I'll go to Jenny here next.

Hello, Jenny. How are you? I'm doing great. All right, Jenny, we're talking about Zamparini here. How many days were they adrift before they were picked up by the Japanese? Seventeen days, forty-seven days, sixty-two days, or seventy-seven days. What do you think? Forty-seven.

You're going to say forty-seven. Good day for you. You're a winner! Yeah. The three men stayed alive by drinking rainwater, eating sea birds and fish, and facing strafing from Japanese bombers. And of course, 47th day, Zamparini and fellow survivor Russell Alan Phillips having drifted 2,000 miles.

They were picked up by Japanese sailors. Now, the story, did you ever see the movie like Cathy did or not? No, I didn't. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet and I want to go see it. People tell me it's just incredible. But for more than two years, the two men were held in a series of prison camps where they were repeatedly beaten and starved. Boy, really rough.

And as an ex-Olympian, Zamparini was considered a propaganda tool by the Japanese, saved from execution at the same time, however, he was singled out for vicious forms of torture, and the defiant American managed to survive, was released after the war ended in 1945. But after getting back home to California, he became a heavy drinker, haunted by the experiences in prison, and then after being inspired by Billy Graham to convert to Christianity, he went on to become an inspirational speaker. He forgave his captors and he published an autobiography, Devil at My Heels, and a wider audience learned about his life with the publication of Unbroken and, of course, the movie that came later. So,

Jenny, we're going to send you to Diner 62. It's an inspirational story. But I don't know if most people could even understand maybe one or two days at sea rather than even 47 or much less 47. That is just insane. I guess he was saved for a higher purpose for sure. And Jenny, hang on. We'll get your address and send that off to you okay catch up on town hall news here in just a moment and more of your calls here in a little bit here we haven't really got to pay you are for those people in your shoe tuesday we believe while we had a lot of couples in the state legislature i guess that's where most of its been