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Episode Date: May 29, 2025

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The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at ClauserDrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning and happy Conspiracy Theory Thursday, the final conspiracy theory Thursday of at least May 2025. Join the conversation at 770-5633-770KMED. We're going to talk about the Clean Car Coalition and how that, you know, in spite of the fact

that people have been kind of looking askance at the electric vehicles, the states are continuing if anything to double down. We'll have a little conversation about that coming up. And I also have a couple of guests who are going to be talking about artificial intelligence and raising some issues here and some of the people that are fighting back on this. And I have the CEO, a tech billionaire, well I shouldn't say he's not a tech billionaire, he's actually criticizing the tech billionaire, but the creator of a social media platform which is designed to try to bypass the censorship and the growing technocracy which we're finding in the current situation and it's a pickaxe and his

name is Jeff Dornak he's the founder and CEO of pickaxe also has an online show from what I understand and is kind of looking sideways at what has been going on with with social media and I'm always I'm always willing to talk to people who are almost creating that parallel society and the need for the parallel society to bypass the conventional and the so-called acceptable, too. And another individual that I've been looking forward to getting him on, except he lives in Hawaii.

So you try to interview anybody in Hawaii and you're a morning show on the West Coast, you can imagine that it's pretty darn early wake up for the guy. But Charles Hugh Smith, who I've been reading in Lew Rockwell and on his Substack, I've been reading him for many years and I've wanted to talk with him. I said he cuts against so many of the standard accepted myths in society, even about what is progress. And of course, this is also connected with the artificial intelligence kind of deal too.

And he agreed, Bill, I'll get up early, so I'm going to be talking to him at 8.30 a little bit. His latest book is The Mythology of progress, anti-progress, and a mythology for the 21st century. And the way he's looked at it is that all societies operate on certain myths, and we have certain myths too, in which no matter what happens, anything new, especially some of the mythologies that we believe in that Charles Hugh Smith writes about quite frequently, if you've ever read his work, and like I said, I've read it a lot, is that we have this myth that if it's coming out of high tech, it is progress.

Whatever it is, whatever is new is progress, and to question progress is to question essentially the meaning of life and we're looking at a lot of this right now when it comes to artificial intelligence and you can't help but notice that now even people within artificial intelligence are raising some alarm bells about what they see going on and we'll have a conversation with Charles about that. Charles is really big on criticizing what has been created in the United States of America. He calls it the landfill economy in which progress is, you know, the planned

obsolescence of everything that, well, you have to get the newest, the latest, the greatest, and that whatever you do have can't be repaired, has to go into the landfill and that the landfill economy is somehow progress. I was joking with him a couple of weeks ago as I was trying to get him on the show, and I said, what are you doing this weekend, Billy? He asked me. I said, well, I'm actually trying to clean my garage out a little bit here, Charles, so I could actually contribute to the landfill economy. And he laughed, he wrote back, he says, I'll come on, you know, because we were having this negotiation on whether he would come on.

And he says, okay, you have a little sense of humor and you read the book. I think it's really interesting. I think he's really interesting. And that he thinks that actually AI is going to, you know, could actually foment its own coup. That's one of his latest pieces in the AI world. But we'll talk about that and a whole bunch more. That'll be around 8.30. That's going to wrap up Conspiracy Theory Thursday. So if you wanted to join in and grab a Conspiracy Theory Thursday call right now would be a

good time, 770-5633. Also 7.10 would be a good time. You know, That's 7 o'clock, first half of the show, first half of that hour rather, and also 8 o'clock hour too. We're also going to have a Diner 62 Real American Quiz and a bunch more. I just appreciate you being here. I wanted to talk a bit about something that I was conversing a couple of weeks ago. Numerous people have been writing me, some have talked to me off air about Commissioner Chris Barnett in Josephine County. And it had to do with when Chris was on my show a couple

of weeks ago. And I'm just going to relate the situation as I know it and understand it, because I don't claim to be a lawyer. OK, I just want to make sure. But I talked with Chris and he was talking about that Osprey lawsuit, the lawsuit for the development that he and his wife own out on the coast, and how it ended up getting kicked up the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court ended up ruling for the plaintiffs, and they're asking for it to, of course, be reconsidered.

And I asked him if he was personally exposed to this. In other words, could he be held personally liable for some of this stuff? Because I know that the development is under an LLC. LLC is, generally speaking, something something that if you're being sued about something the only thing you can sue for is just what's in the actual limited liability corporation the LLC. That's how I understand it. Okay once again I'm not a lawyer I just talked to lawyers so that makes me kind of a baby talks to lawyers you know kind of thing. But you can read. And so he said that he wasn't. That's what he said, that he wasn't exposed to this. And I've had several people write me, some seem to have significant legal knowledge that I don't have. I'm not trying to pretend that I do. I can read legal briefs, but

you know, I don't have a JD. But they're telling me, Bill, that's not true, that he is potentially exposed to this. And so I asked Chris about that yesterday. We had him on yesterday as a county commissioner and he was doing his talk about the update. It was just a brief update on some of the stuff going on in Josephine County. I didn't ask him on the air, but I did ask him off air about this. I said, did you want to do this? The more people in the legal know that I have talked to, and like I said, I'm just relating to how it's been related to me, that yes, there is potential that he could be hit personally on these issues. That if the plaintiffs end up, you know, wiping out the value of, let's say, the Osprey Resort, Limited Liability Corporation, you know, that

thing, the way it's been related to me, is that because of the elder abuse aspect, and I think it's a bad ruling from the state of Oregon, from the Oregon Supreme Court. That's just my opinion because I think elder abuse is very clear. At least most of us, when we think of elder abuse, it's like you have grandma and you're withholding food and water and you're stealing their stuff and everything else. I think we know what elder abuse is, but the court and the jury, they ended up affirming or ruling that not honoring the lifetime camping membership, as it has been talked about in various reports, was a form of elder abuse. And I don't buy that, but, you know, hey, that's what the court has said.

And so I asked Chris, I said, you know, Chris, did you tell me the truth? Did you, you know, you want to come on? I asked him if he wanted to come on the show and clarify that statement. That's what I did yesterday. And then he said, well, his attorney said that this is still an open issue right now, and so they're not going to comment any further on it at this time. All right. So that is the story.

Because like I said, it doesn't matter what I think, it's a matter of what the court thinks and what the jury ended up ruling. So I can have an opinion about that, but we don't know. So I'm just going to sit back and wait and see if the Supreme Court ends up reconsidering the case or not. But people in the know tell me that yeah, there's a strong possibility of personal exposure on that judgment. Okay? That's all I'm going to say about it and just kind of let it go at this point and we'll see. But yeah, Chris under advice of attorney doesn't want to talk about that. I understand, but you know, I think that he actually is. It appears I should say, I shouldn't

say I think, it appears that he potentially is, okay? It's 20 minutes after 6-7-7-0-5-6-3-3-7-7-0-K-M-E-D if you wanted to join in. You're waking up with a Bill Maier show and anything's on your mind because it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. We'll delve into some of the other headlines coming up. Steven Westfall Roofing Inc.

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Are you prepared for this? I don't know. We'll find out. I kind of doubt it, but I'll go ahead and go ahead. Alright. What's a good conspiracy or theory you've heard recently? I will be gentle as I can. Okay. Okay, I was watching YouTube and there's a guy, Darius J. Wright, that was on there, and he said since early life he could cross over to the other side and return.

Really? Yes. That's pretty darn cool if true, right? Yeah. He says it is. He gets this ability. He was filling you in. I was thinking, but I don't know if you'd want to have him for a guest or not because

it would take care of all the problems, he told you what it's like over there. Okay. What does he say it's like over there? Well, it's sort of what they say, heaven. I mean, you can manifest anything you want. You have a physical body which never ages and never dies. Wow. So I could, in essence, I say I would like a Diner 62 burger and then you just, boom,

it's right there. Well, you'd have to arrange for a lifetime. I mean, you don't want to have to have just one and then have another thousand years to go to get another one. Okay, so if you were... I'm actually really fascinated by this concept as someone who a number of years ago went through a near-death experience and I had... and I've talked about that before... and I had some impressions about what that is, you know, what that is waiting for us when we shuck the mortal coil. I think we all have a dog in this fight to an extent. Oh yeah. Now you can manifest

anything you want, but does he talk about when in spirit, if he's able to, if he's, I'm assuming that he's being legit, you know, about this. Yeah. That he crosses over and he's able, you're able just to manifest things that you want. Does it have the same aspect of spirit in body? Does it have the same feel? Because it would seem to me that one of the joys and pains of being in our earthly flesh existence is that pain and pleasure is probably much more intense. I'm just raising an issue.

Does he ever talk about something like that? I know we're getting off into some maybe weird woo-woo philosophical stuff. What he basically said is that we're a hundred percent healthy. We are sick here because in a way we want to be. Because we want the pity for others so we do it to ourselves in this place. We can't actually make ourselves physically sick by our own mind. And he said over there, I mean, it's 100% pure love. I mean, when you're over there, everybody, knowing what they know, they know everything. Once you get over there, you know everything. Well, that's really interesting if true. It really is. And that's really interesting if true. Really is.

And that's... Well, I can spell out his name for you if you want to try... Oh, go ahead. Go ahead, just for fun. All right? Okay. D-A-R-I-U-S. And then it's J for a middle initial.

And then write W-R-I-G-H-T. All right, thank you very much. And his website is Life After Life. Okay, that's okay. I don't want to do everything about Darius. I'll look him up and take a look, okay? At least the one thing I would say is that you concentrated on one guy in one thing. You know, sometimes, God love, I love Lucretia. Lucretia, I love you, you know, when you call. But when you get hit with about 40 different links and or doctors and or websites then, I'm just kind of a linear guy right now, one thing at a time, if I could. Why he says he's doing that, what he's doing coming back to this side is because he wants to let everybody know, do not fear death.

Oh, I don't think... I don't fear death. Is it fearing death or is it the process of dying that's not so much fun? Well, as long as you can keep the pain up. And it sounds to me like get right with it. Alright. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it, Crazy Gene. That's a good Crazy Gene Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Okay? We'll see you later. Bye-bye. That's a good Crazy Gene Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Okay, we'll see you later. Bye bye. All right, don't fear death. I'm good with that. Speaking of death, there's a lot of death

surrounding the situation with Danny Schofield. And she appeared in court yesterday. And this is the alleged drug diversion case. Rogue Valley Times ended up covering this, ended up having a preliminary hearing. It was a pre-trial conference, actually, before Court Judge Jeremy Markowitz in. And in her first court appearance,

they said, since her arrest and subsequent arraignment, Schofield appeared with four members of her legal counsel talking about a timeline for all the parties. And they're anticipating a six to eight week criminal trial, mid-2026. So we're talking maybe, maybe a year from now. Wow. The wheels of justice are grinding slowly in this particular case. And of course, you know, with Schofield, you have to, you know, you presume innocence unless it could be proven guilty. I, this is just me talking, once again, I am not an attorney, I'm not a law enforcement expert by any way, just a regular guy kind of looking and reading

on things like this. I'm kind of curious if there's ever going to be criminal justice dealt out in this trial. Do you ever have that feeling too? And not because that it... Well, once again, I'll just continue that it's one thing to, you know, talk with police and people who are involved in an investigation and people who have been involved in the medical community that have known a lot of this up close and personal. It's like it's one thing to say that you know what happened, it's quite another thing to can you prove it beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law? That's going to be the real question.

And that's going to be a tall order for the district attorney. Very complex. I've been on a jury one time in my life and I remember there were, times remember I was on a, a couple of years ago, I was on a court case that was a malpractice case. And I know that, you know, the doctor that was being sued for having done damage to a spine, it was a, you know, spinal surgery, this kind of thing, a neural, I think, was it a neural stimulator thing? Like I said, I'm getting a little light on it now. But we were all intently, all in the jury, we're treating this, you know, serious as a heart attack and going through, you know, lots of details, lots of scientific conversation. And I'll bet there's gonna be a lot of that in this one too.

Six to eight week trial, boy, that's to be a long time, long time to be sitting on the jury. I know that we were all sympathetic as an example to the plaintiff, to the person who was damaged in this malpractice case. We were really sympathetic. I found out that we all felt this way. We felt horrible about what happened to this guy. And sometimes even when everything is done right,

things just go sideways. You can do everything right in the hospital in a surgery or whatever, and mistakes could be made. And so according to the law, we ended up a ruling for the doctor. And we felt horrible about it. In our perfect world, we would love to be able to say, hey, here's a million or two and get your life fixed up.

OK, we get that, but we couldn't do that. We couldn't do that. And I would imagine that in the jury, even with all the sympathetic and real damage which has been going on in there, is there enough dead-bang evidence that would connect Danny Schofield directly? And that's just it. Is it about directly being tied directly to it? How much is there? I guess we'll

find out. But I have a feeling that's also why it's taking so long to take it to trial because it is so complex. So hopefully justice is done. I mean real justice, not what I think might happen, not what you think might happen. What's the evidence says? And of course if she didn't allegedly do it, then the question then comes, who did? Right? You know, we can debate those kind of conversations too. We'll catch up on the rest of the news coming up here. Bill London has a story about a weird pervert, alleged pervert,

having sex over at the library. He'll tell you over, well, not at the library, but over near it. He was outside, but he'll have details on that coming up. And then we're going to talk about, hey boy, West Coast states cannot give up that addiction to writing hot checks to very wealthy electric car buyers in order to save the planet. We'll talk more about that too. When it's time for a new roof, think beyond shingles. Metal roofing from Pressure Point Roofing offers unmatched durability, longevity, and protection.

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Jason Isaac joins me. He's the CEO and founder of the American Energy Institute. And we want to talk about especially the West Coast governors because anyway, Jason, welcome to the show. Great to have you on this morning. Welcome. It's great to be back on. Thanks for having me.

Tell me a bit about the American Energy Institute. Are you being funded by those mean, rascally fossil fuels that we all know and love and actually live by? Yeah, that we depend on for a thing in our life that actually works. Yeah, we're a free market trade organization that represents American energy companies, primarily oil, gas, coal, and nuclear, things that work when we need them most. We're anti-subsidies, we're anti-political agendas, so we are truly an unabashedly free market organization

representing American energy companies and the consumers that love their products and depend on them for their daily lives. In other words, if you are for free markets though in the United States right now, doesn't that make you a rather lonely person? You just kind of have to ask. It really is. You look at some of the majors that are out there and I love it when people tell me, oh, you're just funded by big oil and that's absolutely not

the case at all because even big oil has embraced some of these political agendas like ESG. They all align with the Paris climate accords with the exception of one company in Houston named Apache. Every single one of those companies, again with the exception of Apache, have embraced the Paris Climate Accords, something that President Trump has called a scam and rightfully so. It does nothing to mitigate a changing climate. It just increases the cost of everything and really shifts the burdens and punishes America

over every other country in the world. I would also add that there is absolutely no scientific evidence that anything that they're doing right now will actually change climate. I mean, I'm not aware of this. I know there have been claims and we have scientists agree or many scientists say that this will happen. But there's no evidence of this, is there? If so, why hasn't it been produced other than the fact that we either do this or we die? It's essentially what we've been told. Yeah you're absolutely right and the left has been demonizing CO2 this gas it's a trace gas in the atmosphere it's necessary for life on earth and that's what this whole movement is about it's it's decarbonization and you look there's been several research papers that

have come out over the last year that talks about the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be strong enough to cause systematic changes in the temperature fluctuations over the last 200 years. And paleoclimatologists now believe that CO2 doesn't drive temperature, but vice versa. So the planet is warming, primarily caused by the sun, and that's increasing CO2 emissions, it's not the other way around. We've been going about this wrong for the last several decades. It's about control. It's not about anything to mitigate a

changing climate. It so irritates me when I would see people talk about, it's getting warmer, it's getting warmer. Yeah, and frankly we've been coming out of an ice age for a long, long time, and we have seen warming. I'm not going to deny that. Really warming in some cases could cause problems in certain geographical sections of the world, but the world as a whole generally lives better with warmer rather than colder. It astounds me that we have people that are actually almost calling for bringing on the cold because that's when humanity dies. And that's what gets me, Jason, to thinking that really this is just some, this is really

just that anti-population growth or anti-people kind of agenda. And is that the real underpinning of it all or is it just the control of the population that's part of the agenda? What do you say? Ding, ding, ding, ding. It is both of those. It is a very controlled, oriented movement and it is very Malthusian at the same time. These people have been saying for over a hundred years that there are too many humans on the face of the earth. I mean you've got Jane Goodall, the spokesman for the World Economic Forum, the lady that loves the apes, just not

the human apes, that says that we need to get back to a population of what we had about 500 years ago for our planet to be sustainable. Mind you, that's a 95% reduction in population. I'm not lining up to be CES. Me first, and neither are the people in the left. They don't want to do that. But what's happened over the last 100 years with the advent and the use of affordable and reliable energy primarily from hydrocarbons, we've had a 99% reduction in climate severe weather related events over the last hundred years.

Our population has quadrupled in that time. And it's so funny to see Gavin Newsom standing in front of a picture talking about the GOP is making America smoggy again is just laughable. Well, I mean, when it comes right down to it though, the really heavy lift, and I will admit, I don't know how old you are Jason, but I'm 63 and I remember growing up in Southern California, I remember smoggy skies there. Of course, it's smoggy skies because it's a basin, okay?

And it's always been this way. In fact, the Indians always refer to it as, this is the Smoggy Place, you know, even before people were there. It's always been this way. Now, I will say when it came to the late 1960s, early 70s, when I was a kid and the Cuyahoga River caught on fire, not once, but twice,

and I think the mayor set his hair on fire once or twice too, if I recall, you know, back at that time. But it is a situation where there was a pollution problem in the transportation sector back in those days. I remember the smell of raw gas coming out of the exhaust pipes. And everything that's happened ever since that time, I would say 95% of the heavy lifting was done long ago. But it's not enough, is what I'm told, right? Well, it's not enough to the left, but it is absolutely enough. And we've actually become world leaders in clean air. You've got me by about a decade. And over the five decades that I've been alive, we've reduced pollution nearly 80%. We've become world leaders in clean air. And in fact, during the COVID lockdowns, I heard an electric vehicle lobbyist

telling people that the air quality improved so much in the US over the COVID lockdowns, because half the cars were off the road. And I thought, gosh, that, you know, what about all these people that lost their lives, they lost their jobs, lost their businesses, their homes? But that's irrelevant. But you see, that's irrelevant to the argument, to them. Well, it absolutely is.

And the thing is, the fact of the matter is, the air quality didn't improve in the United States. In some cities, it got worse. We're at a natural state when it comes to air quality here in the US. We've become number one when it comes to access to clean and safe drinking water, something that millions of women around the world would love to have access to that'll spend 200 million hours walking to collect today

because they don't have access to it. That's what the climate alarmist movement is. It's detrimental to women around the world and that's absolutely appalling to me. There's just so many things we take for granted on a daily basis here that are powered by affordable and reliable energy and it's primarily from hydrocarbons. But can you tell me what a woman is though? I don't even want to go there, okay. Jason Isaac, CEO and founder of the American Energy Institute. Let's talk about those California governors including Governor Tina Kotec and Governor Gavin Newsom. There was recently formed the Affordable Clean Cars Coalition. Can you tell us more about that, what happened,

and what they're hoping to drive forward here? No pun intended. Yeah, I say quite surprisingly because it's not common that Congress gets things done, but they're getting some things done. And one of them was they repealed the EPA's waiver for the California clean air requirements, which mandates electric vehicles by 2035. And when California says we're no longer going to sell gasoline vehicles after 2035, what happens automatically is because other states in the District of Columbia had participated in this clean air, this requirement. So 17 states in the District of Columbia had to follow suit.

Their earlier legislators and the city council in DC had binded them to this agreement. Well, the Congress pulled the waiver, they rescinded it, and so now that doesn't apply anymore. And now you've got these other 10 states that have now gotten together and said, wait a second, we want to continue with this coercion, so we're going to force automobiles to make electric vehicles and sell them if they want to sell vehicles in our state at all. So they're really just creating this cartel to collude against American, really all automobile manufacturers to the detriment of American

automobile manufacturers. Is that something which is legal for them to do because it sounds like an interstate compact and don't those usually have to be approved by Congress? Yeah, you hit the nail on the head and this is going to be one of those things that's going to get tied up in courts and lawyers are going to get rich and they love this kind of stuff that drives me crazy, that just drives at the cost of everything, but this is clearly a violation of the commerce clause. They're going to try to influence automobile manufacturers to appease these left states and hopefully the automobile manufacturers push back and say, no thanks, then fine, we won't sell cars in your state. And the only thing you're going to be able to buy is a Chinese electric vehicle

with huge tariffs on it in those states, which is really unfortunate. I don't think that... well, I don't know. This is a sticky wicket because what has bothered me about the whole electric car agenda, and by the way, I have no axe to grind against the electric car agenda. What I do have an axe to grind against is when we're forced to write hot checks out of the government treasury to people who are generally better off. You don't see a lot of people from the ghetto, let's say, going out and buying electric cars. Would you agree with me and concede my point on that?

Yeah, you're absolutely right. And it's part of this affordable, this coalition they've put together. They're calling it the Affordable Clean Cars Coalition. There's nothing affordable about an electric vehicle. If they're really talking about affordable clean cars, they'd be talking about hybrid vehicles. But they're not. You look at, and I published research on this, it's at AmericanEnergyInstitute.com about the hidden costs and subsidies for electric vehicles. Every electric vehicle sold through 2023 will receive nearly $100,000 in subsidies and benefits.

So they just pulled the $7,500 tax credit out of the one big beautiful bill. That means that's going to go away and that's a good thing, but that's a drop in the bucket. States are contributing another $10,000 in subsidies. Some states are higher, some are lower, but on average it's about $10,000 in subsidies. Some states are higher, some are lower, but on average it's about $10,000 in subsidies. So you're right, the least among us are paying for wealthy individuals to drive an additional car. I refer to them as fancy golf carts.

They're fun, they're nice technology, they're really neat. I've gotten to drive a couple of them before, but it's just not ideal for me. And the last thing is I wanna be having other people pay for my car. And so, and that's what's happening with EVs. Other people are paying for wealthy individuals to have a fancy golf cart. And the point being here though, is like I said, there's nothing, you know, the electric

vehicle has its role in the transportation matrix. I don't have any problem with this. And what concerns me is that the push has been to have electric vehicle instead of not in addition to because I can see how, especially if I was in an urban environment and I was only doing a few miles a day of commuting and returning to the same place, if I were a company, let's say, doing local deliveries in town, I could see how you could make an electric vehicle pencil for those kind of things. You come back to the truck hive, you know, at nighttime, and you plug into the chargers and that's fine. But

this agenda is all about eliminating the ability to be able to travel long distances because they have not been able to...that's the one thing they've not been really able to do affordably, is long distance, affordable travel, and also quick refueling during those trips. They have not... As far as I know, they have not really crossed that Rubicon yet, have they? No, they really haven't. And even if they do get there, it's going to be extremely, extremely heavy. And so the wear and tear...

That's why the only electric trucks, these class eight vehicles with trailers in California are Frito Lay right now. They're hauling potato chips, an extremely light product. They're not hauling Pepsi products in those trucks because it would put them overweight in a heartbeat. So they're extremely heavy to do that. But you are right. We are driven down this road. It is to replace the internal combustion engine. I don't wanna get too wonky on the corporate average fuel economy requirements through the Department of Transportation. But there's essentially things that are in rule.

This could be changed with executive orders and rulemaking process. You don't have to go through an act of Congress to get this stuff done. But it's right now saying that your vehicles have gotta get to 50 miles per gallon. And in several years it's going to be up to 90 miles per gallon. Which effectively says that the only thing you can drive is an electric vehicle, really,

because if you're going to say 90 miles per gallon because it doesn't exist otherwise. That's exactly right. And then there's this illegal multiplier that they give to EVs. They rate a pure plug-in electric vehicle at just over 100 miles per gallon equivalent. But if it is that pure plug-in hybrid or electric vehicle, not a hybrid, they multiply it times 6.67.

So you're getting over 700 miles per gallon credit for every EV you make. This is where Tesla is profitable. They sell these credits to other automobile manufacturers, which increases the cost of gasoline and diesel vehicles a little over $2,000 per vehicle sold. Yeah, the ones that people actually want to buy, can afford to buy, even then, you know, they're still... all cars are expensive right now. There are no cheap, cheap cars. We know that. But that being said, to buy

an internal combustion vehicle, you have to buy credits from Tesla and various other electric manufacturers, right? That's it. You have to do it. You have to pay the penalty, I guess, for getting what you want. That's absolutely right. It's the only way that you can meet the government's requirements of a certain fuel economy, fuel economy that is unattainable by gasoline or diesel vehicles.

That corporate average fuel economy requirement needs to go away. The illegal multiplier needs to go away. So the Department of Transportation, EPA, Department of Energy, they've got some work to do to stop the EV mandate. You just can't put out an executive order that says stop the EV mandate because there really is one and it does. It needs to go away because it's increasing the cost of all vehicles. Is Congress willing to get involved in this fight, Jason? I really, I think so. I mean, the House has signaled that with the passage of one big, beautiful bill by getting

rid of the EV charging, the billions of dollars that were built, you know, handed out to build six or seven stations around the country that we saw last year. Now we're finding out about billions of dollars, uh, just in the waning days between the election and president Trump being sworn in. I think it was over $70 billion that the DOE doled out to loans. Some of those employees have now gone to work for those companies. They worked for them before they went into the DOE to hand out these billions of dollars. And now surprisingly, they're going back to work to these companies.

It's really criminal. I hope more of this stuff gets exposed. I hope Congress investigates this, but yes, Congress has signaled that they're willing to pull some of this back. Would you agree that this push to electrify and only have electric cars in some ways hurts electric cars, at least the affordability aspect of it? Because then you're forced to try to, well, every electric car has to have 400 miles of range in order to compete with what people

are used to having a vehicle to do. And yet, I could see how if there wasn't a mandate that there would be more of a market than for a truly affordable smaller commuter car for like the urban areas, which I could see being a perfectly reasonable way of working in those kind of areas, rather than everybody has to have something which weighs 8,000 pounds and 4,000 pounds of batteries. See what I'm getting at here? It kind of gets in the way of being effective and affordable even though they're calling this the

Affordable Clean Cars Coalition. Yeah because people want to drive SUVs. They want their families. They want to be able to haul their families around. So you're right. The companies that make electric vehicles are being forced to build these electric vehicles that will actually sell that consumers want instead of these smaller electric vehicles that could be used for this city driving that you're talking about. So yes, and there's only a limited supply of materials available to make these. There's not an unlimited supply.

I mean, the four-year-olds in the Congo can only work so much every single day to pull the cobalt out of the ground to make the batteries that go into these electric vehicles. There's only so many of those kids to go around, which is absolutely appalling that's happening. I'm grateful that Arkansas, I think one of the first states in the country to pass a bill and the governor actually sign it that says that they've got to certify that their vehicles are not made with child or slave labor, so the state can't purchase vehicles that are made with those. So that's a great step in the right direction because it's important some of the

working conditions these people are going through to make our EVs. But ultimately, transportation freedom is up to Congress at this point. That's it, right? There's no way President Trump is just going to wave the executive magic wand, because once he's gone, whoever comes next could just reverse that, right? Yeah, that's correct. And I'm hopeful with the Chevron doctrine ruling late last year because it's not explicit in Congress in statute that says there has to be an EV mandate. So maybe you change some of these rules within the administration and they stick. So I think there is some things that the Department of Transportation, Sean Duffy, can do there and the President can do to put us on the right track that would be harder for our next

administration to reverse. All right, very good. Jason Isaac, the CEO and founder of the American Energy Institute. Where can people find out more about you and check out what you're up to? You can check us out at the AmericanEnergyInstitute.com. You can find me on X at Isaac for energy. Alright, Isaac. Good talk. I appreciate it. Be well. And I hope that we get more to your common sense approach to all this. Okay, thank you.

Thank you, appreciate it. Five before seven, this is KMED, KMED HD1. News talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Meyers Show. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday and it's going to be open phones for this next half hour or so. We're going to be talking a bit about AI and a high tech CEO wants to come on and talk about his new social media platform

which is supposed to bypass the censorship, the encroaching technocracy. So I'm looking forward to that. It's a social media site called Pickaxe. I'm not familiar with it, but we'll talk with him about that. And Charles Hugh Smith is also going to be joining me. We'll talk about the United States, not just the United States, but the Western world and

its landfill economy. He has a really thought-provoking book out, The Mythology of Progress, Anti-Progress, and A Mythology for the 21st Century. You know, the question I wanted to pose to you this morning on Conspiracy Theory Thursday? It's about tipping. We're at the point now where there is a tip jar just about everywhere you go. In fact, my wife and I were donating to Bronson Pickett's GoFundMe campaign. Remember I talked with Bronson a week ago? And he is one of the victims of the alleged drug diversion theft over that case over at Asante, the nurse's case that I was talking about

just a little bit earlier, had one of their pre-trial conferences yesterday. But anyway, even donating to GoFundMe, and they already take fees out of it and yet it automatically pops up here that 17 and a half percent tip for GoFundMe and I thought that was mandatory and I stupidly paid it anyway and I found out Linda says no you could eliminate that I said really? Oh gosh I feel like such a moron you know and I'm thinking about the big beautiful bill with President Trump and what's in there right now is no tax on tips. That is, that has made it to the so-called big beautiful bill.

Question I have for you. First off, what is the most irritating trend in tipping that you've seen? Of course, that's one example that I certainly gave. I love it when I go into a store and I have to walk up to the store to order the sandwich, let's say, and then I have to go back up and pick up the sandwich and then go get my own drink and my own condiments if I do something like that. And then you have the tip jar out, or put the mandatory tip on it. Now, believe me, if someone delivers a pizza to me,

I am thrilled to tip. I appreciate them doing that kind of stuff. But think about it now. What's the most outrageous version of tipping that you've seen? It's something I want to talk about. It's one of many topics I could go on to, but this is something which is sort of just

tickling my brain this morning, okay? If tips do become truly tax-free, which they're not right now, but if they do become tax-free under the Trump plan, and assuming that the big beautiful bill doesn't get messed with at least that part of it by by the Senate Will you change your tipping habits and if so how Because at this point in time, you know that at least according to the law whether they declare it or not they're supposed to pay income tax on that and Then they wouldn't be. So it'd be essentially just a freebie gift. Would you still do? And I've noticed that they've graduated from 15% to 17.5%

being like the starting point. And I'm thinking, what the hell? It's the part that goes through my head. Listen, I'm all for people trying to get the most amount of money they can, but this, I think the tip has gone really weird. Don't you? So would you change your behavior knowing that it is absolutely tax-free? Would you change that and say maybe you wouldn't go 15, maybe you'd go 10? I mean, what would you say is the right amount? What's a good amount? and how would you change that? I think that's one

topic I'd like to talk about that and and many other things too. 7705633770KMED. We'll have town hall news coming up, hand in the update, then your calls. Conspiracy Theory Thursday have at it. Ready to upgrade your roof to a day?