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Episode Date: June 4, 2025

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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. 61 degrees, just a beautiful morning once again, like the man says from NBC5. And how are you doing, Crazy Gene? Haven't talked to you for a few days. Crazy or otherwise? What's on your mind?

Oh, no, I'm dependably crazy. I won't change that. You know, it's good to be self-aware. It's on your mind. Oh, no, I'm dependably crazy You know, it's good to be self-aware There are so many people these days that just aren't really able to evaluate themselves And I think you've done a pretty good job so far so good for you Appreciate that. Oh yeah, well I spent years working on it. I'd be a failure if I wasn't as crazy as I am because hey, I'd get that kill to get that way. All right, so what's the craziness today? It's on your mind. Hey, I'd get that kill to get that way. All right.

So what's the craziness today? It's on your mind. Well, I was just going to... On YouTube, they've got all kinds of free energy devices you can make, and they have no moving parts. They're just a coil, a wire, and a magnet. And I was thinking maybe that would be a way of getting out of under the Pacific power and light that we're under right

now. I've never really gone and looked too deeply into these situations because once again if things are probably too good to be true and too cheap to be true, maybe they're not really true, I would have my doubt. And they all seem to kind of look at some form of a perpetual energy machine. I see these things all the time. I've seen them for years and I remember the people, well here's a pill, put it in your gas tank and fill it up with water too, right? Oh yeah, well, how do we know if you haven't tried it? It might work. And what's the trouble we have is that we don't have any belief in anything. We don't believe something will work, so we don't even check it. Well, yeah, that could be, but if you're advertising on YouTube, you're hoping that someone's going

to send you money, and so someone has to commit their money in order to do it. So some people must be buying it, I guess. My point being... Well, all I do is look. I don't send money. Well, that's why. Then how do you know? How do you know that it's not just another scam, Crazy Gene? Well, I know because they got the guy hooked it up with an electric light bulb and the light bulb comes on.

Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. I have my doubts. Now, I know that I've read enough about physicists who have discussed the the theory of zero-point energy in which there's a way to that we have not been able to find a way to do this but in theory that you could tap free energy from the universe kind of through the I don't want to get off into the weeds but but but actually calling it zero point that there's a way to do it.

Now, if someone does that, that's very cool. If we could figure out a way to do that. Now assuming that anybody that would invent something like this wasn't murdered or thrown off a bridge someplace because we need to keep certain secrets. That's all. Well, it's better than the doctor assisted suicide. Come on, do what you want to do. If you die doing it, good. It's good for you. You're going to a better place. By the way, speaking of doctor assisted suicide, did you read that the state of Oregon wants to make it easier

to take your own life here? I guess they want to cut the days from two weeks down to seven days from the request to getting your pills or whatever the case might be. Do you agree with something like that or not? Well, if you're going to kill yourself, why wait? Why wait? I guess my point is, do you really need the state of Oregon to help kill you? No, no, no. I've been able to do that and I've practiced doing it many, many times my whole life. All right. I think you're over sharing now, Gene. You're over sharing now, okay? All right. Thanks for the call, though. We appreciate that. Thank you. All right. Crazy Gene. Love it. It's 19 minutes after 7. By the way, it is open phone time here for a little bit. 7705633. Because, you know,

I've been gone for a few days. 7705633, because I've been gone for a few days. I'm happy to get with you and meld into where we're going. But yeah, I want to talk a bit more about that. Seriously, they do want to affect. I have the story. I saved it. Gosh, where is it?

Battle lines, big red, big, beautiful bill, DEI. Let's see what else we got. Rogue Valley economic overview, unemployment's going up. Oh yeah, here we go. Oregon bill would reduce administrative burden for patients seeking physician assisted death. Senate bill 1003 proposes to amend the Death with Dignity app.

Terminal yield people who want their doctor's help in dying could do so twice as quickly. Oregon one of 11 states. It would go down from 15 days to seven. Good plan or not? We could talk about that and other things on your mind too. 7705633. Price of gold this morning. I don't think they're looking at that. The big beautiful bill is being small enough to move the needle. $33.65. Of course, this also could be Kiev and Ukraine and war threats and everything else, but gold is quite happy to sit there and continue to preserve wealth.

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Brenda? Welcome, good to have you on and you wanted to talk about death with dignity right? You know a bit about that? Yes I do. My mother had tongue cancer. She was a nonsmoker. She had two surgeries on her tongue. The third time it came, it was much more severe and further back. And she did not want to go through surgery and chemo and all of that. She decided to go when God's ready for her. And the family supported her in this. So I had told her about the death with dignity. We talked about it a lot.

There are a lot... She decided that she wanted to go through that route and, you know, find more information about it. And how does that actually work? And I'm sorry to be a little flat-footed on this but I've not really talked to many people who have gone through it. Well there are hoops you've got to jump through. The first thing you need to do is find a doctor. There is, as of six years ago when I went through this with my mother, there was no doctor in Medford

to do it or Ashland. We had to go to Grants Pass. But before you do that, we had to get signatures, you know, write out a statement that, um, mother, I typed it for my mother and take it to two of her friends who went ahead and signed, yes, they know my mother and they were willing to sign and to go along with it because of her situation when it got to that point. And it sounded like it was really serious with your mother. It did.

It was very serious, yes, extremely so. If she would have had the third surgery, she wouldn't be able to talk at all because they would have to remove her entire tongue and it goes further back than a lot of people think. It goes down your throat and she wouldn't be able to eat anything, just swallow. And she said, I'm not gonna live that way. That's not the life for me. So that's why she decided not to go through the surgery. Did she go through this ultimately? No, she didn't because once you get the documents from her friends, then you've got to find a doctor. The only one that we found was in Grant's

past. Okay, you had mentioned that then. And so what was the delay or did she pass before going through the death with dignity? She, by the time that we went through all the hoops and everything, she couldn't swallow the medicines. The medicines are not cheap. After you get a doctor's appointment, you see the doctor, the family goes to, and then she writes a prescription and it comes to you in the mail. And in fact, we never opened a box when it came in the mail, but it cost about $6,000 for the drugs.

Really? It's not cheap. It was close to $6,000, if I remember correctly. Wow. I had no idea. And here it was. I thought that the state was just, all right, here you go, a couple of weeks wait and boom and off we go. Okay. No, you've got to jump through hoops. I'm wondering if, did you ever look into, not that I want to give them a plug, I'm not doing this, but I questioned why there was any state involvement

in something like this. Do you, I mean, do you really need state involvement in something like this, especially given the hoops that you're talking about? Well, going through it this way, it was a guarantee it would not be painful. She would just fall asleep and her heart would stop the way I understood it. Like I said, we never even opened the box of the meds, so I don't know what was in it. But it's, when you mix the drugs all together,

it's like a slushie and it's a little thick. At that point, my mother was unable to swallow. So there's no alternative for someone who's not able to ingest anything then? Correct. I'm wondering if the Hemlock Society, this is what I was thinking about. Now the Hemlock Society has helped people do this for ages. I wonder if they had a different procedure, but I'm always reticent about anything that the state of Oregon is in charge of running.

It's not because I dislike the state of Oregon, it's just that it tends to be incompetent. Do you agree with making it easier or going from 14 to 7 days or 15 to 7 days which is what they're talking about with this latest bill? Do you have an opinion on that yet? Well, I don't see how anyone can do it in 14 days with all the hoops you have to go through because it all takes time. It takes time to to find a doctor. It takes time to get these papers signed by friends, not family. And it takes money to get the drugs too, from the sounds of it. I didn't know that.

Absolutely. I had no idea it was so expensive. None. Whatsoever. I know. It was kind of ridiculous, but this is what my mother wanted and we went along with it because we loved her. and we knew that it was a death sentence anyway. All right. I appreciate your call. Thanks for making that Brenda and I gosh it's thanks for sharing the story. I never knew. Wow. 7705633 770 KMED. Let me go to... Lucretia has promised to keep it at one topping. Lucretia, go ahead.

Don't spark on me, babe. Okay? Well, that's what it's all about, Bill. Like you're going on like a downed power line, sparking on the ground and flying around and trying to zap people. Well, that's what it's all about. Aren't we just frequency and vibration? Anyway, and ether.

It's just, anyway, I wanted to comment on Brilliant Genes topic. I was watching an interview with Matt Rourke on electroculture. He's gone back to 1841 and before, but where they used copper wires to just really capture that static energy and put it into the ground and they're getting double, triple, I mean, 48 pound watermelons, huge beets, six pounds, just super healthy.

And you just take a copper coil and wrap it around a stick and put it in the ground by the plant. It's just amazing in the ground by the plant. It's just amazing, the growth, the health, it's just huge. With wrapping a coil, a copper coil around the plant, right? You know, you wrap it around a stick. Oh, around a stick. And put that stick in the ground with the copper coil going into the air. So it's, you know, maybe if you're going to do a tree, you might do it about four or five feet long or something smaller.

It sounds like taking the copper bracelet thing that a lot of people were into for a while and pushing it over toward the plant world. Working with a static field. And that's the next thing I'm going to talk about, which is Nathan B. Stubblefield. Stubbenbeinfeld was his name. Have you heard of him? No. He created, not Maconi or Tesla, the original radio and telephone and many other devices. And he couldn't afford the telephone himself, so he, what he did is he placed the copper coil into the

ground and then a lot of people back then had huge balloons way up in the sky above their house. And remember I was telling you, they know that for every meter you go up, you get another hundred watts of electricity. So they powered a lot of their house. But what he would also do with that telephone, that copper coil that he put into the ground, he put the other end up in the air. And then he could talk to his friends who also had this through the ground. He says the worst thing in the world is those transmitters that are on the cell towers. Those are the most disgusting, just ridiculous waste of technology. So it sounds like what Stubblefield was using then is a

version of using the static charge to... And it sounds like it's inductively coupled through the earth. There is a good theory about that. How far was he able to go with that though? I don't know. The book is coming out this next month. I definitely plan to buy it because it just sounds phenomenal. But he does a lot of the research and how the people used to have free energy. All right.

Well, I'll tell you what. You get the book and maybe let me read it when you're done. How about that? All right. Okay. All right. Thanks, Lucretia. 770-5633 on The Bill Maier Show. Plus, I'll lower your internet and cell phone bills. And those offers in the mail from Dish, you can go through NoWiresNow for those. Call me at 541-680-5875. Call Cherise like I did or visit their showroom off Biddle Road in Metford.

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It's the Bill Meyer show on KMED Southern, Oregon's place to talk Hello Rick you had some help for the gentleman looking for the help on Eric Peters talk with the Ford F-350 diesel from I think it was 2002 that he was talking about. What do you say or what do you say rather? Well I had a somewhat similar problem with my General Motors product last year. I had a transmission control module go out. GM had none in stock. They were ramping up production to produce more of them and And I was about 5,000 back on the back order list to get one. Boy, that was rough. How did you end up getting it fixed?

Well, I contacted a company called Circuit Board Medics. They're back in North Carolina or South Carolina. I sent mine out there. They fixed it. It's been running fine ever since. So that might be an option for that gentleman with the F-350 to contact circuit board medics. And I'm sorry I don't have a phone number here, but he can go online and find them there readily. Well, you can find them. Yeah. So they would go through that computer module and quite possibly have a way to repair that and get them back on the road then at hopefully a more reasonable cost. That's really interesting.

Circuit Board Medic, I'm going to look that up and thank you very much, Rick. I appreciate your help. You bet. Okay. Take care. You take care too. By the way, I had Ron White who popped me a message to, Bill, have the man looking for that gem module look up a company called upfix.com.

Upfix.com. And by the way, if that caller needs to get in touch with me, just email Bill at BillMeyerShow.com and I'll share the information that we do know. Let me go to Brenda, no, pardon me, Yvonne. Hello, Yvonne. It's a pleasure. What's on your mind? Yes, I was asking if you had new information on luggage for children that are moved around in the middle of the night with protective services. My experience is in the past before COVID, our local AAA collected gently used or new luggage for this program.

And I was in there just within the past few months and they said that program had been canceled, that there was some, I don't know if it was a federal intervention or what, that there was going to be something else set up. And curious if anybody has any information on that, I have some very nice luggage that I would like to see go to a good program like that. Yeah, I'm looking at this. The last that I have been able to find was information from April, so it's a little less than two months ago back when we were talking about that first. And this is the bill sponsor, Senate Bill 1016. I would have to look up the status of that bill. I don't know if it has been moved out of committee or not.

It has passed the Senate and apparently there this was a bipartisan bill passed the Senate. I don't know if it's hit the House yet. I will try to find out and it's one of those things kind of got lost in the shuffle at this point, but I don't have any new news about it at the moment. Okay? I was so pleased with the way it worked and I thought perhaps it was a local program. When the LAAA told me that it had been taken over and that it was going to be a government program, I kind of lost confidence in it. So I would be very interested in any information you might impart. It sounded like such a well-run

program in the past and it's something my prior experience with Children's Services is it's something that's badly needed. Right, very good. Any information, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I sure will, Yvonne. Thank you for listening and asking back. And yeah, I did not need to figure out what happened to Senate Bill 1016 in the House. And there's a lot of stuff that still may be bottled up in committee over there.

And there are just hundreds of bills still, even at this point. Line 2, good morning. Hi, who's this? This is Minor Dave. I have to answer the question to Lucretia. You know, it can be quite dangerous because when you go up to 100 feet, like transmission line off the ground, that's static filled. You don't have to have any power hook to a transmission line.

That thing is hot enough to kill you. It's like getting hit with lightning. And so I wouldn't just let anybody experiment with coils in the ground and putting something that high in the ground because it would become a lightning rod. Well, most radio towers are already set up that way. Most of the towers are grounded quite thoroughly. And so there's obviously a potential there. You know, the static field, it's unmeasurable. It's so much electricity. Well, so much voltage. So much voltage is what you're talking about. But it doesn't necessarily mean there's a lot of power to be tapped there. That's where I...

I don't think so. Okay. It could be quite dangerous. All right. Thank you for your opinion, Dave. Let me grab one more call before news and run them out. And Commissioner Ron Smith, Joe County, is going to check in in just a minute. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. minute. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. One, two, three. Going once, going twice. Is this me, Bill? Oh, is this you, Ron? Oh, yeah. I didn't hear the white noise. Oh, okay. No, it's not just me. Okay. Why don't you hang on, Commissioner, and we'll talk a bit about those coins that seems to be stirring the emotions in Joe County. We'll get an update here with Josephine County Commissioner Smith. That'll be coming up.

The Metric Rogues. Hi, this is Lisa, the Hughes Lumber Girl, and I'm on 106.7 KMED. By the way, thank you to listener Cliff who informs me that Senate Bill 1016, that was the one about stopping the foster kids from carrying around garbage bags, they're going from home to home and requiring that luggage would be provided. But yes, SB 1016 was signed by Governor Kotec. So that is now the law. That is the latest theory.

And for some reason it didn't pop up when I was first doing the search on that. A lot of things happen. Can't keep track of them all, okay? Now then, Josephine County Commission is finding itself in... I don't know what it is. This time has to do with the challenge coins. I was talking with Commissioner Chris Barnett about that a couple of weeks ago, maybe a little more than a week ago, about that a couple of weeks ago, maybe a little more than a week ago, and it had to do with these coins. Who knew about it when, who's paying for it. I'm seeing and hearing all sorts of different claims on this one. Commissioner Ron Smith, you ended up putting out a statement on this. Welcome from Josephine County. How are you doing? Well, thank you Bill. Thank you Bill for having me on the show. Yeah, we

need to set the record straight. Okay, so what are you saying then this morning? Because the question is who knew what when, where's the money for it? Now we're hearing that supposedly Commissioner Barnett is paying for the coins himself maybe, along with Andres Black. I don't know. So I'm hearing contradictory statements all around. What do you say? Let me start with the truth, okay? I first learned about these coins a little over two weeks ago when I saw one sitting on the secretary's desk. Curiously, I asked what they were and where they came from. I was told that one of the commissioners had ordered them. So naturally I asked for the documentation, including the receipts payment record, to

understand who authorized the purchase and how it was paid for. So that's when I first learned about these coins. When I saw one sitting on a staff member's desk, I had no prior knowledge. Let me be perfectly clear. I had absolutely no prior knowledge of these coins, nor would I ever support spending taxpayers' money on something so frivolous. I would never vote in favor of such a purchase. I believe strongly in physical responsibility and transparency,

and this is not how I believe public funds should be used. All right. So you knew about it a couple of weeks ago. Right. And when you did, other sources saying that you were asked if you wanted your name on them, and what was that timeline? When did that happen? I was never asked about having my name on them. They were already done before I seen them. I knew nothing about the purchase prior to seeing a coin on the staff's desk. They were already in the office before I found them. Let's be perfectly clear.

There's only one name on a certain batch of these coins, and that name is Chris Barnett. The rest of them were blanks, and I did take them, and I took what I could get. I didn't get any with Mr. Barnett's name on them, but I took what there was, and I locked them up in a different office until we could figure out how to get these things paid for without taxpayer funds. How were they paid for originally? Because there had to be some... somebody had to say that we're going to do this. So where did the money come from to start with? It came off an employee's debit card. It came off an employee's debit card. An employee's debit card?

Correct. Okay. Is that kind of like just an expense that ends up being reimbursed? I mean, I'll put things on my credit card for the company. I don't know the game plan there. All I know is when I asked for receipts, I got receipts of how they were paid for. One did not define. There was a bill in two different receipts, okay, of how they were paid for. One did not define, they were billed in two different

receipts, okay, about $1,210 on each receipt. And only one of them had a notation on it about requested by Commissioner Barnett. Okay, was this something which was brought up for a vote in some form or another within the county? No, no. Neither I nor Commissioner Black knew anything about these coins. Commissioner Black knew nothing about the coins until I, after I saw one on the staff member's desk, I took a coin to him and said, what in the world is this? He had no prior knowledge of these purchase either.

Okay, but you first heard about it a couple of weeks ago, right? Yeah, a couple of weeks ago. All right. And what is the current status? Because now, supposedly, this is being paid for by Black and Barnett, I guess. This is the other stories I'm reading. This is how that transpired. I strongly suggested to Commissioner Barnett that he should pay for these coins, not the taxpayers. Apparently, he went to Commissioner Black and they agreed to split the cost of the coins. Now, I've got to tell you, that's just out of the goodness of Commissioner Black's heart because he had no knowledge of these coins either. He's like me. I want this thing to

be put to rest with the truth so that we can move on to more important issues for the county. One thing I have a problem with what Mr. Barnett said on 528 was this notion that we approve big ticket items that are nonsense. That's just untrue Things like new patrol cars for the sheriff software to protect the 500 computers that run the county. That stuff's essential We don't we don't we don't approve nonsensical things like challenge coins Okay, so there's definitely a difference of opinion about this. So I just want to be clear,

you did lock them in an office at some point once you got some, or you got some for what purpose? What did you get some for? I never got any. I took what was left and locked them up so they wouldn't go out to the public because I was disgusted and frustrated with the whole process. So I locked up what was done and I proceeded to try to get these things paid for not using taxpayer money. Okay, so anything else you want to add before we take off? I'm just going to take it from you. I'm sure Commissioner Barnett will probably have a different take on it too. Well, you sure he will because his name is on the coins. Let me

make it perfectly clear, neither I, nor Commissioner Black, had any prior knowledge to those coins before they showed up in our office on the staff members' desks. So this never came up for a vote? So this is on a debit card? Never came up for a vote. No knowledge by Commissioner Black or myself about the coins until they ended up in our office. Okay, when I saw one in the office, I said, what in the world is this thing? And so I was told, and then I asked for receipts.

I have the receipts. All right, so there's a little bit of strain and stress on this one still, at this point. Well, I was talking with Chris last week, it didn't make sense to me. I didn't quite understand where this is, It kind of seemed to pop out of nowhere. Well, it didn't pop out of nowhere. He started handing the coins out and I guess the courier got wind of it. So they issued a story. So I had to make a public statement. I gave them

my public statement about this. It's the same one that I sent to you. Okay, all right. And so there's, you know, what's the old saying? What webs we weave when we first plan to deceive? I'm sorry that my suggestion was just to go say, I made a mistake, go out there and apologize, pay for the coins and be done with this thing. That's what I wanted to happen. Apparently, that's not happening because somebody doesn't want to admit to making a mistake. So what is happening right now, Commissioner Smith? They're gonna they're gonna be paid for by Commissioner Black, Commissioner Barnett.

All right, so there is no taxpayer funding that is... Well, I haven't seen the follow-through. All right. The other question though, is there a procedure though to prevent something like this from occurring in the future, in which a commissioner just says, okay, go out and get some challenge coins and we'll reimburse you out of the debit cards. Now, I know that I'm able to, I will do certain expenses for the radio station as part of my engineering. able to, I will do certain expenses for the radio station, you know, as part of my engineering. I've talked about this before, but I tell the boss about it and I, you know, have to go in and get it approved and everything else, you know, to

do something like this. I just can't do it on my own. Is there a budget that commissioners can do stuff like this on their own that I'm unaware of? This is not beyond the limit of a debit card. That's probably why it was billed on two different receipts. But this should have never happened. If he wanted these coins so badly with his name on them, he should have approached the two other commissioners on the board, a commissioner of three, and said, what do you think about this idea? I'm pretty sure it would have been thrown in the garbage can. All right. Commissioner Ron Smith, appreciate the take and thanks for having joined the show briefly. Well, thank you for having me on Bill. I appreciate your show. Thank you. 756 at KMED and 993 KBX Chief.

The french fries are so crispy and delicious, the ketchup is lonely and the burgers are just fine. This is News Talk 1063 KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show. Couple minutes before eight at KMED, at KMED HD1, Eagle Point Medford, KBXG Grants Pass. Kathy is here, Kathy. Heard, you know, there's plenty of drama stills spoiling around, there is spilling around

the Josephine County Commission having to do with the morale coins is what Chris Barnett called it other people calling them challenge coins like Commissioner Smith and who knew what and when and it sounds like it according to Commissioner Smith that it's going to be Andreas black and Chris Barnett to commissioners they will end up paying for this the $2,400 expense here, so not taxpayers, but what is your take on that? Well, I don't know what the heck is wrong with Josephine County.

And maybe it's Chris Barnett's military background, but those coins are a big deal in the military. They're just given out by commanders and stuff for doing a good job. Yeah, and that's what he had talked about them for, kind of a morale booster. I guess, you know, hey, you did a good thing here. Here's a morale coin or challenge coin, whatever it is. Yeah, and I was not in the military, but I had the restaurant up at Pohakaloa on the Big Island. And I still remember the day the colonel gave me my challenge coin.

And I just wanted to say say they should start a fund. Maybe they should do a GoFundMe and then I will contribute or I'll just send a check to Chris Barnett, but hopefully he'll put it in the right place and not get dinged. But God, there's so much infighting going on there. It makes me sad for county government. Yeah, there are some challenges. There are some challenges. Of course, you know, you have to be careful though, especially in any governmental position that things are brought up and debated and done out there. I think what it is, it sounds like the the coin just all of a sudden showed up and debated and done out there. I think what it is, it sounds like the

the coin's just all of a sudden showed up and then you know, all right well what do we say about this? Right, but how about if Ron had just gone to Chris and talked about it instead of airing it publicly? I mean it just it just seems ridiculous. But the other thing is this has been a bone in my throat or whatever you call it. When they were talking about the baseball, the Rogues, or whoever they are coming here... Oh yeah, it's Eugene Emeralds, not the Rogues, the Rogues are already here at this point, but this is the proposal that Eugene Emeralds would then come to Southern Oregon to Medford. And the gentleman you were talking to said, well it's not really a big deal because it's only $30,000 to $60,000 to do the study.

And I, about my, my job fell open. Sure, it's easy when it's not your money. But, you know, but I'm thinking I would, I'm not even a Josephine County person. I would donate to a fund to give out those challenge coins because I know the people that get them, or most of them, would really appreciate a you-go girl. You see the value of it but it wasn't gone about in the proper procedure I guess? Well, apparently, but they're rectifying that by paying for it themselves. Okay. But they're

going to have to order more and maybe they should start a fund. All right, maybe so. Yeah, so that's just me. Kathy, I appreciate your call and opinion. Thank you for that. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, $2,400 may not be the largest expenditure, but it's still an expenditure when you're doing buyouts and trying to right-size things because you're looking at a lot of grant stream funding going away and things are tight and under challenge, people are going to have a sore spot I guess about this. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello? Hey Bill, is this me? Is this me Bill? It is you. Go ahead.

Steve in Sunny Valley. Hi Steve. Yeah, I just think this is another tempest in a teapot. This is the Democrats going at our weak spot, which is fiscal responsibility, just like they went after Trump with the COVID because he's a germaphobe. And they're finding ways to divide us and make us argue about dumb stuff. All right. It's opposition tactics. That's what it is. They can't win in the ballot box because they're a minority, but they're going to

sow dissension. They're going to recall our elected officials. They're going to put out vague statements saying that our commissioners are of poor ethical repute. And if we buy into it, we're just turning into Liz Cheney. We're just not doing us any favors. I appreciate the opinion though. Is it a good idea, should we just pay off the $1,200 or $2,400, have them pay it off and then just forget about it and move on? Is it kind of where you are at this point? You know, I think Andreas Bleck can suck that up. Not a problem. When I was a scout leader, we gave out challenge coins. When I worked at American Airlines, we got challenge coins. These are not new things, and they're not expensive things. But you can understand, given the financial issues that Josephine County has been talking about,

it's a small symbol, but it's a symbol nonetheless. It's a four-hour overtime shift of a sheriff. It's tiny. It's not worth getting our panties in a wad over. All right. Well, apparently the panties are wadded as we speak, okay? Just saying. All right. Thanks, Steve. Let me go to another one. 7705633. You know, some of the people who wrote about this the other week, I don't know if I read these these emails. Here it is. Oh, here it is. Yeah yeah Dan that wrote me about the morale coin says Bill forget moral morale coins I want a participation trophy for being a taxpayer in Oregon for 30 years you want that from Tina Kotak is that what you want Dan let me get you a real American salute and and

Mark writes me Bill about the more the morale coins rather, government's way of pissing on your back and telling you that is a warm gentle rain. So some people support it, other people don't, but yeah it's it has stirred the imagination for sure. Hi, good morning. Who's this? We'll give you a quick bite of this before news. Who's this? This is Logan, Bill. Hello, Logan. Go ahead. Hey, I hear a lot of you know squabbling coming out about Josephine County about a measly $2,400. Yet in Medford, we've had this metal detector system put in about a month ago. I have yet to find how we're funding this.

There was two nice security guards who work at there. There's usually a man or a younger lady, very nice people. And I'm sure they love having the job. But you know, my wife works at a hospital where they get a bunch of crazies in there in the emergency room. You know, she doesn't always feel safe at work. But I don't see us putting in metal detectors at the taxpayers expense. I just don't understand why Medford leadership and administration thinks that they are so special that they can have these tax funded, or I don't even know how they're funded, metal detectors set up.

Now, is this at Medford City Hall? That's correct. Yeah, because I haven't been down to City Hall there for quite some time. I would imagine that there is probably a grant in there someplace, Logan. Well, can't we spend that money elsewhere? Well, the grant doesn't get spent on something other than what the grant is specifying, probably for security. I don't know. So you don't like the idea of the metal detectors and guards at the city of Medford

No, well, it makes us seem more like a prison system down there, which you know I don't know they're taxing us like it is it is what it is I don't I just don't I don't understand where there's outrage over $2,400 you have somebody manning that those those metal detectors got to cost us at least $2,400 in less than a week to run. Oh, I imagine so. But remember, repeat after me, safety. No, no, no, no, no. Safety.

Why don't we put those in the schools for the kids? Their safety. Why is that? Because people don't want a prison system in the schools either. Okay, I guess. Yeah, well, talk to the districts about that if you really want metal detectors there. Thanks for the call there, Logan. Got to roll. Kevin Starr is going to join me.

We want to do a little bit of history on, we're told that you can't do anything to get rid of the bad bills because there's no point in walking out. The last walkout failed. to get rid of the bad bills because there's no point in walking out the last walkout failed well I want to talk with Kevin about how it really failed or did it really fail that'll be all coming up young music talent is everywhere but opportunity isn't