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Episode Date: June 4, 2025

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The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clouser Drilling dot com. 12 minutes after eight, Kevin Starr of the Oregon Firearms Federation joins me this morning, Kevin. It is great to have you back. And we're probably going to hear you really good on Zoom. How are things this morning?

Things are great, Bill. How are you? I'm doing excellently. Other than the fact that when I read your alerts, I just want to go on vacation again. But, you know, doing my best, trying to struggle through it all. Hey, you should read them with a bottle of wine. Bottle of wine? Yeah, yeah. I just don't drink heavily enough, I think, until, you know, I take a look at your stuff. But you're just kind of explaining the reality of what we're looking at here in the in the state of Oregon when it comes to our legislature and the very small amount of fight

that I'm seeing here. And the reason I invited you on here is that I wanted to get to the bottom of why the last walkout failed because we all know that under Herman Barrett Shiger kept things together. He ended up walking out getting rid of tax and or yeah cap and trade and various other things a number of legislative sessions ago and I've been calling and you've been calling to to protect the people by denying quorum and walking out of the legislature in spite of measure 113, that bill. And the way I looked at this is that you don't come back in until you have negotiated terms of excused absences and then measure

113 doesn't apply at this point. And then people will write me and say, Bill, it's just not as easy as you say it is. And I would agree that it's not probably as easy as I say, but I never claimed it was easy. I just claimed that it was the hard thing that needed to be done, I guess. And what actually happened the last time we had this going wrong? Well, when they walked out the last time under Herman, I mean, there've been walk out, the walk out under Tim Kenope was engineered to fail.

That was the plan was to fail, to get rid of certain conservative legislators by getting them to walk out. And then after they had gotten the 10 unexcused absences, which meant that they couldn't run again, then Tim Kenope came back and gave the Democrats everything they wanted. you know, had gotten the 10 unexcused absences, which meant they couldn't run again. Then Kim Canope came back and gave the Democrats everything they wanted. So not only did the Democrats get the bills they wanted, but they got rid of, you know, they destroyed the political futures of

people like Dennis Lithicum and Kim Thatcher. The walkout under Herman completely controlled the agenda. They were able to completely dictate what was and was not going to happen. And I think I've told you this in the past, but after that walkout, prior to the next session, the Republican House members were caucusing, not far from my home in Aurora. And I met with one of them I met with

Dwayne Stark who of course as you know now lives in Texas in his third home and he said you know Kevin the Republicans felt like they weren't rewarded for walking out and I said well wait a minute every single one of you who walked out got re-ed. So how were you not rewarded? I mean, what did you want? Yeah, what kind of reward does a legislature or a legislator who stands up and does the right thing, what kind of reward can you give them? I don't know. You know, I really have no idea what more they wanted. But I think the essential problem here is that the people in the legislature, and maybe to a certain extent the party operatives, because I don't see them making any changes, is they just have a very different view of how bad things are than I think a lot of the people do. And when that last alert actually was, I did a, after that alert, and then I did a podcast recently with a guy from down in your area. And the response, the overwhelming responses were like, people were either leaving Oregon or desperately wanted to leave Oregon, couldn't figure out a way

to do it. And I think a lot of the people recognize that things are very, very bad. And it's well beyond just the firearms issue, which is pretty bad. I mean, if you're in the firearms business in Oregon now, you're essentially screwed. If you want to be a firearms owner, you will be screwed soon. But when you look at the mismanagement, where the money's gone with ODOT,

with Kotec giving her quote, wife power over mental health decisions when she in fact is mentally ill and an alcoholic and you know not to mention at least she's not a transgender turtle I suppose but the the money that's being squandered by the Democrats and then the response by the Democrats is go to the people and say, you just have to give us a whole lot more money while acknowledging that people really can't make ends meet anymore. And then complaining that we have a housing shortage and passing bills to make it very, very dangerous to build a house. controlled Oregon. But the point being though is, as you said here just a moment ago, the reason the last walkout or denial, and by the way it's not just walkout, it's denial of quorum. It is an actual constitutional power. Now I have no doubt that the Democrat majority is going to do their absolute best to get rid of it. And Senate Bill 113, many

voters stupidly voted for it it not understanding that the only power that a minority party has is the beal is the ability to break things and more or less stop the process from moving forward when you have really bad stuff happening well there's a really lot of bad stuff happening right now and yeah and I'm not getting any impression out of many Republicans other than a handful that it's as bad as you and I and others are thinking that it is. No, and you if you look at if you look at the the press releases, the email blasts, everything they're putting out,

it's like here's a picture of me with my friend the Democrat. I'm so pleased to be working across the aisle, this passed in a bipartisan fashion. Now admittedly I take a more extreme view of this than a lot of people do, but I don't see the Democrats as people who simply have a different point of view with whom we need to deal and negotiate. I think that the the sheer magnitude of the destruction that they're causing, and every day the Republicans will say, oh they're crippling rural Oregonians, they're doing this to farmers, they're doing this to property owners. And the thing is,, oh, they're crippling rural Oregonians. They're doing this to farmers. They're doing this to property owners.

And the thing is, as long as they are there and providing quorum, the damage will continue to be done. And the other thing they'll say though, is they get in touch with the Democrats, except that the Democrats quite often are in agreement with these kind of procedural of these votes and where they want to take the country. And at least the country of Oregon I guess the state. When you look at what the left is willing to do to get their way okay so we had a pretty substantial vote for Donald Trump and for the policies that he said he wanted to implement and now

he's involved in hundreds of lawsuits that the left will do anything, you know, any means to stand in the way. And the Republicans position, at least in Oregon, is just like, well, they're in the majority, there's nothing we can do when in fact, the walkout is a tool that is constitutionally allowed, which the Democrats have used in the past in Oregon, and Democrats have used elsewhere, Democrats and liberals are willing to disrupt things, break things, burn things down. I mean, they're willing to physically hurt or kill people, set fires to things, and the Republicans' response is always, well, they're in the majority, there's nothing we can do. When in fact, yes, there is something we can do.

But for many of them, their position is, well, you know, we just have to be more persuasive. Well, you're not going to be persuasive, though, with people who are essentially pushing the destruction of your state. It's like all of a sudden, they've been sitting there and say, oh yeah, we do need transgender surgeries shoved in the schools. And all of a sudden, oh, you know, I listened to you enough, Emily, or whoever else you might be talking about, and I realized that you're right, and it really isn't a moral thing. I'm going to change my thought process around. This is the naivete, or maybe there is something worse with this though. Maybe it has to do with there's just money promised for

districts. Is it something that simple? there's just money promised for districts. Is it something that simple? Well, it's certainly that simple in some cases. I mean, even Drazen, you know, the Republican House leader who can't sell out fast enough, who can't vote with the Democrats frequently enough was expressing all this outrage when some of her House Republicans crawled into bed with the Democrats to pass more taxes and get involved in this carbon trade thing and everything, complaining that, oh, they they waived some money at them, which, of course, is exactly what they did with Dresden

and the Republicans a few years ago when they promised them each two million dollars. These people cannot sell out quickly enough. So that is certainly a factor. But the other problem is the Emily McIntyre's of the world who just who claim that, well, we're just good Christians and if we could just convince them and if they find out how nice we are and how what good ideas we have. And this this is the whole fundamental problem is believing that is idiotic. These are not people who are misguided, who are making bad policy decisions.

These are people who are determined to crush the state and turn it into their dystopian hellhole. I'm not sure what they hope to replace it with. Clearly something authoritarian where the parasites control and the producers are decimated. But you cannot reason with the unreasonable. I think, you know, what we learned we learned from that idiotic deal that Drazen made with Kotech some years ago, that Kotech then completely reneged on, pull the rug out from under Drazen, which any idiot would have known was going to happen. You cannot bargain with these people. And they have no reason to bargain with you anyway because you have no tools.

And this is the ironic thing. And now there's discussion about limiting how many bills they can introduce. So over 3,000 bills have been introduced. Paul Evans has introduced over 300 of them. David Brock Smith is in second place with something close to that number. Now why are they introducing bills that will never ever get a hearing because they're being done by the GOP? Well, the reason that you introduce a lot of bills is that you can send out deceptive emails to your constituents saying, I've introduced legislation to deal with this with the expectation

that your constituents will actually think that that matters. And it doesn't matter. Do you think most people are fooled by that though when you get the emails from your state reps and senators? I think a lot of people really believe that the introduction of a bill or in some cases they're not even saying I introduced the bill they say we have an idea to do this or that which means even less but I do think that a lot of people believe that if a bill is introduced it at least has to be dealt with and of, it at least has to be dealt with. And of course, it doesn't have to be dealt with. You can get rid of a bill faster than you can press delete on a spam email. These bills rarely, I mean, most of the bills rarely get any kind of hearing.

They go immediately into the garbage. But if I can send out an email blast or a press release saying, yeah, and this is what this is what the Republicans are doing now. We have a plan to deal with the transportation crisis or we have a bill to deal with it. Who cares if you have a bill? It's utterly meaningless. In fact, recently, I guess it was last week, I saw a story about this whole concept of limiting the bills. And Drazen made a comment about I want to be able to introduce these bills, because that's what the people in my

district want. And then went on to admit that her bills almost never get heard because only Democrat bills get heard. In other words, this is the political theater that Republican listeners hear or people that vote for Republicans, this is the theater that we don't really want to face, I guess is what you're saying.

Right? Not only is it theater and meaningless, but it's also theater and meaningless that comes at enormous expense. When Brock Smith or Drazen asks that a bill be drafted, they know damn well that unless it's a bill that sucks up to the Democrats, it's going nowhere. If the Democrats don't agree with it, it's dead. And in some cases, it may be dead. If the Democrats don't agree with it, it's dead. And in some cases, it may be dead even if the Democrats do agree with it, because they've agreed that they've taken so much heat over this wildfire map that they have a bill to fix it, but now they've gone to the Republicans and said, you will do what we tell you, or we're not going to let this bill move. They hold these things hostage all the time. And beyond that, now they're openly

humiliating Republicans. Like twice now, Senator McLean has been essentially told to sit down and shut up by Floyd Prusansky in a very public embarrassing way. And they put up with it. You've got a Senate Republican leader, Dan Bonham, who should be walking into Wagner's office and saying, look, dude, if one of my members gets disrespected like that again, we're shutting this place down. But not only do they accept this humiliation, but then they go and do YouTube videos about admitting to it. I mean, it's absolutely embarrassing. And then to make it even worse than that, then you have Republicans getting up and complaining that they weren't given the opportunity to screw gun owners the way they wanted to. So we just passed a bill,

I think it's 243. Was it a 243? Thank you. That says if you're a good person who's gone through all the procedures to get a concealed handgun license, we're not going to ban you from a vast number of places where you've never caused a problem just because we want to and because some harridan in a red shirt claims she's uncomfortable with it. And then the other thing it does is ban all these quote rapid-fire activators which many of which are already federally illegal to begin with and only turn up in crimes with a bunch of hood rats in Portland, they're already illegal. The ones that aren't legal are not being used in crimes.

Now they're gimmicks. They're not the kind of thing I'd be interested in, but people buy them because they enjoy shooting them and they're not doing anything wrong with them. But that doesn't seem to be the point, right? No, you get Senator Nash and Senator McClain quote Republican pro-gun senators who both get up on the Senate floor and bemoan the fact that they didn't get the opportunity to just ban those devices that these other restrictions came along. So it's like Nash and McClain are saying well, we really wanted to screw law-abiding gun owners who've done nothing wrong just to make you people happy with a meaningless gesture.

But now we can't do it because you added these other elements. So really, what the hell do we need Republicans for? And that was the point which is our issue. I mean, yeah, we have issues with the Democrats in the state legislature. We do every day and we talk about it, but it is the response from the so-called opposition party, which has been so weak, so compromising, so... In other words, you only have one tool, and that is to break the system and stop it from moving forward. And there is so little reticence here to deny the quorum, and I understand that it is a hard thing. And yet, I would also add, Kevin, what is the point of being a state senator or a state

representative if all you're there is to be humiliated and you're worried, well, you know, hey, I've always wanted to be a senator or this is my job or my job is to represent the people. I mean, well, your people are getting screwed day in, day out here from Southern Oregon. So day in, day out here from Southern Oregon. So I'm just trying to understand why you would even let measure 113 be a fear, a way to go. You just say, hey, no, we're gonna stop this crap. You're not going to make fun of our senators or humiliate our people like this.

And you're not gonna be able to do this. If you wanna pass budgets, we'll come back in after you excuse all our absences. Other than that, we're shut down. And this is when we're down to the final few weeks of this. And I know it's not an easy thing to do because people will yell at you about your job, etc. But what is your real job when you're a state senator or a state rep? Right.

I mean, the question is, if we get a constant drumbeat from the Republicans, two things, how bad things are, how the Democrats are doing terrible things to the people. And they are. OK. How you as a voter are responsible for sending emails in, in spite of the fact that we've proven over and over again that 100 percent opposition to a bill is meaningless, doesn't make any difference. So that's just a bunch of crap. But the other thing is you have to ask yourself is what, how, if the Republicans think, oh, it's not that bad, so we're not going to walk out because we're continuing to stay. What would have to happen? What would the Democrats have to do? A child sacrifice on the Capitol steps before Bonham and McIntyre and Drazen and all those people would say enough. Would it be we gather up Southern Oregon gun owners and put them in the train, the boxcar to the FEMA camp or whatever? I'm going down the Alex Jones road. You know, that's not really an exaggeration because when you look at what they did with this bill, it bans quote, you know, like things like bump stocks. It makes you a felon for being in

possession of one of these things, but it gives you no avenue or no option. There's no grandfather clause, not that I would support it then, but there's no grandfather clause and there's no legal way to dispose of these things in spite of the lies that Przewanski said during the hearing. You know, Przewanski flat out lied about that. But all of a sudden, you have this group of people in the state who've done nothing wrong, who've harmed no one, what they were doing was illegal, become felons overnight and are categorized in the same way as people who sell child porn and people who kill other people. They're put in that same category. And you have Republican senators supporting this, saying, yes, we want to take these people who've done nothing wrong,

but we have this, we're going to do this theater, we're going to all be symbolic. And we're going to say, not that you can't buy new ones, not that you can't transfer them, but the simple fact that they're in your possession makes you a felon overnight. How that's insane. And that's the kind of crap that we have Republicans supporting, either openly by saying we wanted to vote for it, or tacitly by showing up and giving them the quorum they need to pass it. And this is the point. We know what the Democrats are doing here. We're largely Republicans here on this show. You're at least, you know, familiar and or sympathetic to it. And if you are allowing it to move forward, you are permitting it. Now I think it was Noah Robinson. I talked with Noah

Robinson. I think you talked with him too, Senator, and good guy. And I think he has his heart in the right place. A lot of them do. Dwayne, I'm sorry, Dwayne Younger and others feeling the same way. But it's like none of them are willing to just to go out on their own and do this. They need a group effort and I know to be effective they do. But it would be, I don't know, maybe it's because nobody has their back there. Maybe, is that what's going on? Maybe? You know, I certainly know his case, I think he made a calculation saying, well, if I walk out, it won't make any difference. And to some extent, that's true, meaning the outcome wouldn't change. But what would change is that he would not

have been part of this. And he and I discussed that. And I think he sees our position on this that by by being there, even people who totally disagree with it who have been good in the past, gave the appearance of being part of the collection of people who are selling out. Dwayne Yonker hasn't had an opportunity, well, I guess he's had an opportunity to walk out on other things, but you know, he's a different breed of cat and who knows what he'll do. I guess we'll see. But for many of them, they're just, and who knows what he'll do. Well, I guess we'll see. But for many of them, they're just, if they're taking the position that by walking out, it won't make any difference.

By the same token, by staying there, by, because it doesn't make any difference, why be there? You know, staying there doesn't make any difference. So, you know, what is the point of being there? At least, you know, you can make a statement saying that this I don't want to be part of this charade. The day after day after day, there's fewer and fewer rights that Oregonians have. There's fewer and fewer opportunities to maintain their property or their safety. The state's becoming extremely dangerous. And they're being told that as it becomes more dangerous, you have fewer and fewer ways to keep yourself and others safe.

So now we're saying, okay, you're a CHL holder, you've never caused any problems, nobody's ever shot up a city council meeting. Yeah, you're too close to the school ground and hence you're a felon, or you try to walk into a city council meeting and there you are, you're popped and you're a felon. Yeah, it's not only banning you from these places and these events where you might actually be able to

do something to protect people, but now you're disarmed going to and from the event and if you have a firearm that you leave in a car under many circumstances, that's a crime too. And it's funny, you know, Broadman, this senator from the Bend area, who's really pushing this, made a couple of comments that, hey, the police don't want CHL holders help, you know, leave this to the professionals. That very day is a story from Seattle about a CHL holder who stopped a mass shooting in Seattle. Yeah.

That was the, wasn't that one of the homeless guys, I think? Someone got, got sporty, from what what I recall, is that what happened? I don't know who the perp was or who the shooter was, but there was two people were shot. He intervened and stopped the shooter. This stuff happens all the time. You know, I don't know of any cop who's ever said, I don't want to see HL holders help. You know, but the fact is, is that CHL holders are in places where the cops aren't there. And what this does is say, you as a good person can't be there, but we will do nothing to keep

bad people out. You know, we don't have cops in these locations. We don't have metal detectors on these locations. And the number of locations is so broad and so vast. You know, water boards, cemetery boards, these could be in people's homes. It's insane. But the problem is, obviously, that not only, as we've said, not only are the Republicans tacitly going along with it by showing up, but now they're vocally supporting this stuff. And it's not just that. I mean, you've got Senator Anderson protecting child porn in school libraries

and a whole bunch of other things. Why? Well, who the hell knows? But it really is clear that the Republicans as a group are essentially worthless and the party has done nothing to rein them in. You know, the party... And yeah, and the challenge is that we know what the Democrats are going to do. What, you know, there's no point. We have to control what we can try to control. And there seems to be very little voter control of the fight in the in the current Republican caucuses. And that's the tool you have.

And that is a tool that they have. And if people want to propagandize it or use it against them, well, guess what? When you become an elected official, people are going to use stuff against you. And that's happens all the time. There will be organized efforts against you and that's happens all the time. There will be organized efforts against you That's part of the game. It is then your responsibility to explain that no, I didn't walk off my job I did my job because if I stayed there, here's the things that you would lose and Yes, it's not always easy. And yes, sir

There are voters who are ignorant but look there are voters who are ignorant and they need to have Forceful spokespeople and look, when they passed this ballot measure, the Republicans didn't oppose it. There was no opposition to the ballot measure that was only going to screw their people. Which makes me wonder if there is a if you want to say the rhino types, which do populate a good portion of the Republican Party in Oregon, if that was part of the whole deal, it's like, oh wonderful, we can get rid of conservatives and people with a conscience. We can get rid of them. What

better way, right? Not only that, not only that, but then you know, I mean the thing passed in places, after that passed, counties that supported it still voted in the people who walked out. But there's two things here. First, yeah, it's a good way to get rid of the true believers and the conservatives, but also it's a great way to create an excuse to say, oh, I'm not, I can't walk out. Yeah, we walked out in the past, but now I can't walk out. And because I'll lose my job. But the next thing they'll be telling us is that, well, look, now what will happen is the Democrats will just change the record the quorum requirement, but guess what they're gonna do that whether you walk out or not if you've got a tool that you think you can't use five

Yeah, yeah, well you use it while you have it if nothing else use it because then at that point boy, okay Yeah, they changed the quorum requirements. I guess I get it, but right now they're not changed. So for crying out loud, if you're not gonna use it now, when are you going to use it, I guess? Precisely, you know, if the state is circling, the state is circling the drain, there's no if about it. The state is circling the drain. Five years from now or two years from now,

you deal with that then, but right now we're hemorrhaging. And if there's not a tourniquet applied, which it doesn't appear there will be, and you know, who knows, I could be wrong. But if the tourniquet doesn't get applied, then the patient dies, period. And there's not going to be any going back when the farmers close and the businesses are closed and the landlords are screwed. And people trying to build new houses or remodel old houses are told, we're going to sue you if somebody doesn't pay an illegal alien who was working for the contractor. It's thing after thing after thing.

And it's death by a million cuts. And a lot of people, they don't feel it immediately. But ultimately, as your tax bill skyrocket and your energy bill skyrocket and your kids are going to schools where they're open communists in charge of the teachers union and it just isn't safe anymore, then more and more people say, I just got to get out of here. Yeah. And I would prefer to stay.

Kevin, I appreciate the explanation and what happened with the last walkout, the denial of quorum and why that was not successful. And I think you once again have explained this as it was designed to fail. So when people say, it didn't work last time because it was designed not to work. So we have to demand denial of quorum and you make sure that it works this time is how I would say. But this is the reason that I wanted to get your explanation about it. And I think you've done a pretty good job. Well, I'll get back, but you know, our issue is our own Republican leadership that conservatives are fighting here in the state of Oregon and maybe that's the, this is the fight that needs to be had. Do you agree?

I do, completely. That leadership, Republican leadership at this point is kind of an oxymoron. You know, the Oregon Republican Party just elected a new vice chair, Dave Brown, who is probably one of the most principal ethical people I've ever met, a strong leader. But look what he's going to be up against trying to turn around a ship that has so many people who are determined to make sure that progress is never made. All right. Kevin, stare at Oregon Firearms Federation, OregonFirearms.org. Thanks for the explanation. In other words, going through the history that needed to be gone through.

Okay? Thanks again. Thank you, Bill. Be well, my friend. 20 before 9 at KMED and 99.3 KBXG. This hour of The Bill Meyers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit FontanaRoofingServices.com. Hi, it's Megan McPherson, your local farmers insurance agent. My office has become one of

the fastest growing commercial agencies in Southern California. Started at KMED.com. Click the Advertise Marketing tab. News Talk 1063, KMED. You're waking up with the Bill Myers show. Open for business the first Wednesday of the month. We always end up checking in with HVAC land. We have Randall over at Advanced Air. All right, are things blowing up left and right here yet at this point? How you doing Randall?

Welcome back. Hey, I'm doing well Bill, thanks for having me. Yeah, you know, we've had a really slow move up to these higher temperatures and it's been a really nice approach to summer because people have turned on their air conditioners early move up to these higher temperatures. It's been a really nice approach to summer because people have turned on their air conditioners early rather than waiting for extreme heat. That's a good opportunity to check and make sure that everything is running

correctly before sometimes when we have those blasts of hot air where maybe in May we have a week of 95-degree heat and everybody's turning on their air conditioner for the first time and it's all failing, it's all bad. That's not what we have this year, so it's been a pretty nice move. Well, you know the one thing I'm finding out is that your suggestion to keep your fan on all the time, especially, it seems to work better for us in the summertime than it does in the wintertime. Yeah.

But keeping the fan on so that it's not just turning on and off with the heat pump and the HVAC, that seems to work really well. It is amazing how it keeps the stuffiness down and also the ability to keep it a degree or two cooler than we might otherwise do. So, makes a lot of sense to us. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely, just moving air can make it feel about five degrees cooler in an indoor space than it actually is. So Stagnant Air is the enemy. Just simple air movement, continuous fan on your thermostat control, can turn on your equipment and get that fan blown and move in the air and distributing that air nicely throughout and evenly throughout the space, making it feel cooler. We're going to be getting close to 100 degrees here over the next week and doing some things, opening your house up early in the day and cooling it down rather than waiting until you get home from work to turn on a heat pump in particular, heat pump or AC, it's harder to recover when you're trying to get the temperature down 10 degrees

rather than if you leave it on all day and have a more manageable set point, say 75, it's easier to achieve that than getting home at 5 o'clock in the evening and finding out your house is you know 85 degrees and then trying to cool it down from there. I know it really is counterintuitive for most people you're thinking ah well you know I'll let it go as hot as I want and then we'll just catch up. Yeah. The systems really aren't sized for this and you've made this really clear in your past talks about this and a lot of times if you wait till four or five o'clock to start the

cooling it you're just not going to have the soup and you're you have too late yeah and you're gonna be sweating yeah well and I think the fear too is that it's gonna cost more in utility usage to have it running all day which isn't the case at all it actually is harder on the equipment and is costlier to turn it on and try to satisfy immediate needs. So keeping your system running, keeping the fan going, moving the air, it's much easier to treat it, to filter it, to cool it, than it is to recover after extreme weather. Eddie, have any great deals going on right now?

I know it's going to be moving into the peak of the cooling season, but maybe there's some rebates that we don't know about. By the way, this is Randall once again from Advanced Air. MyAdvancedAir.com is number 772-6866. So write that down. He's your friend there. Okay? Yeah, we've got a great deal an in-house rebate up to a thousand dollars on qualifying qualifying Bryant Duckless and crossover systems. So that's a unique offering from Advanced Air The Bryant factory rebates are still in effect to the end of the month. So on on

Qualifying high efficiency equipment there. There's some savings on qualifying high efficiency equipment there. There's some savings. ETO, Energy Trust of Oregon, has some amazing rebates. Some are income specific and some are efficiency qualifying. So there's some due diligence there, which our sales guys are incredible at educating people on. But you can save, especially on the income qualifying rebates, savings within reach. I mean, there's like up to $4,000 in rebates available for qualifying systems. So there's some huge savings. If you have a rental property, there's Energy Trust of Oregon has some rebates for that.

There's a number of incentives available there. The Inflation Reduction Act has some rebates nested in it. So that hasn't been all clawed back by the Trump administration at this point in time? No, not yet. But what happens is it's released in certain amounts at certain times. And then as soon as that money is released it

evaporates like immediately like within 24 hours it's gone. So I think there's a lot of developers that have maybe in-time tracks on some of that and they and they're set up for as soon as it goes live to capture some of those funds that are available but they are really hard to hit. But, but, but it can occur. A lot of, a lot of multi-unit residential housing projects seem to be first in line for, for those, uh, incentives. I appreciate you coming on here, uh, Randall. Something else I wanted to mention.

Can we overemphasize the importance of changing filters? And I know you may laugh, but you know what my warning when we're getting to the point where the filters need to be changed, there's a whistle that comes out of my air ducts that I hear this and I know that it's straining a little bit. It's not so funny. And I was telling Linda about this. You hear that whistle? That means it's straining a little bit. It's not so funny. And I was telling Linda about this. You hear that whistle? That means it's time. You know, and it's always just at the point where it's just getting dirty enough that it's starting

to restrict. Pretty easy really. Yeah, if you hear the filter being sucked up into the cabinet, up into the grill, it's plugged. There's debris in it and it needs to be changed. And what's happening is your system is trying to suck air basically out of a plugged straw. And so it can have a very damaging effect on the equipment. The best thing you can do, the best maintenance you can provide for your equipment and for your investment is just simply change the filters. We sell filters, you know, a Merv 7, Merv 8 is a great level of efficiency and filtration to go with. Now is it worth it to go? I have a Merv 13 in both of them right now. I have two filters in my system. So what the Merv rating indicates is the higher the

MIRV rating basically the tighter the weave on the pleat and so it's catching more particulate as the air passes through that filter which is good. However that can also restrict air and needs to be maintained even more frequently and changed even more frequently because what happens with the tighter weave, if that filter gets dirty, it can be an impediment to the airflow more rapidly. Yeah, I have to change it more often. I have to change it more often, but it just shows me though how much dust, pollen, and in my household, cat hair, things like that, it's amazing how much that stuff floats around.

But hey, I consider it as expensive as they are, it's cheap insurance here. Is there still some time to maybe get some cooling systems checked out here before the peak of it right now, or are you pretty much on an emergency repair basis? Yeah, so we are still scheduling maintenances, but demand service takes priority during, especially our clients, our comfort club members, they get priority during these extreme temperatures. So usually we're doing maintenance as time allows over probably the next six to eight weeks. How do you become a member of the comfort club and what's the benefit?

Yeah, you call 541-772-6866 which is advanced air and we can get you set up on a routine maintenance program and the wonderful thing about that is we have documentation of all of the equipment, all of our clients, their systems and we can track what's happening with that equipment. So a lot of times we can, as we do our routine maintenance, we can see if there's problems that are trending. And when our guys go out, when our technicians go out on service, you know, they're checking amp draws,

they're checking filtration, they're checking belts, they're doing all these, they're checking pressures of refrigerant, making sure that all of these things are within tolerable allowance, and then if they're not, we mark, we identify that. Yeah, you got a warning, okay, hey we're seeing more of an after all on your compressor, could be some problems here reaching the end of its life just giving you a heads up and that's what this is all about, right? Rather than like, oh my gosh, Randall, it blew up. Come help me. Gosh, it's a two-week wait. Really

sorry. Love you. But you know, take care of it beforehand. But anyway, 772-6866. Become a Comfort Club member today and find out what other deals here and you're looking for some help. Definitely Randall and the crew at MyAdvancedAir, which is AdvancedAir rather, MyAdvancedAir.com, the website where you can find out more. Got some good deals and still out there to help you. And I appreciate you on open for business here Randall, okay? Be well. Thank you Bill.

Take care. And change those filters. Get in with Randall if you need some help on that, 853. This hour of the Bill Meyers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit FontanaRoofingServices.com. You're hearing the Bill Meyers show on 1063 KMED. Now Bill wants to hear from you.

541-770-5633. It's 857. Tracy here from north of the border. How are you doing this morning Tracy? Talking about the local media news.57. Tracy here from North of the border. How you doing this morning Tracy? Talking about the local media news. Welcome. I'm doing wonderful and yes that last segment is very important. Those 100 degree plus week-long streaks you guys have down in Medford are just... I don't know how you tolerate it. Okay well you know it just comes with the territory as it were. Hey, you were talking about the news about

local media, what, Alan Media Group is going to be sold pretty soon, huh? Yes, the entire chain or conglomeration of Alan Media Group's TV channels, which includes Channel 12 in Medford, KDRV I believe it is, and Channel 9 up in Eugene, and also down in Channel 12's Relay in Clannad Falls, all up for sale. While back there was a big concern about, well, we're going to lose local weather reporting. Well, maybe just the tip of the iceberg, depending on how the sales go. Yeah, well, there's also the possibility that whoever buys it might take a different way of looking at it than the Byron Allen Media Group.

Now, Byron Allen, of course, says that they need to sell it to pay down debt, so apparently there's been some financial challenges. In legacy media, this has been pretty much standard operating procedure that everyone's been having to do more with less for a long, long time. But I'll be curious to see which companies end up purchasing it. I'll bet you will too. I hope for the best for the Salem, for the Medford and Grants Pass viewers down there, and for Oregon media in general and local media.

I think that if somebody regionally or locally could get in on it, I think we'd all be in a better shape. Yeah, I hope so too. You never know. Hey Tracy, thanks for the wrap up and we'll talk to you on Conspiracy Theory Thursday no doubt, okay? Thanks a lot. Alright. Alright. By the way, my email is Bill at BillMeyerShow.com and yep, Conspiracy Theory Thursday tomorrow. Thanks for listening.