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Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Morning news and conversation and then into a great talk with Epoch Times investivative correspondent Joshua Phillipp. He catches us up on the L.A. riots, latest border news, who is winning in the trade war talks between U.S. and China.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at ClouserDrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning and welcome to the show. 7705633, 770KMED. My email is bill at BillMeyersShow.com. We have some open phones here to start off, plenty to discuss this morning.

And well, where should we start? Where should we start? Oh, our neighbors to the south. Why don't we? But that's okay. It was mostly peaceful protesting, right? Just a little... well, I mean, yeah, it was hot. They were burning things and burning down Waymo cars. And gosh, it was just astounding to see what was going on in Los Angeles. Of course, I'm talking about the protests against ICE. And what are your thoughts about that overall? President Trump has sent in the National Guard at least a couple

thousand troops from the National Guard and they started arriving in Los Angeles early Sunday on orders from President Trump in response to these clashes. California's National Guard were seen staging at the federal complex in downtown Los Angeles. Trump said he's deploying 2,000 California National Guard troops. I also understand that Pete Hegseth saying that Marines over at Camp Pendleton are standing by if the violence continues. And of course, who's objecting? Governor Gavin Newsom. First time in decades that a state's National Guard was activated without a request from its governor. He's really upset about this.

In fact, he said that President Trump deploying the National Guard against his will was actually inflammatory. And it seemed to me that the inflammation, the flames were actually on the streets of Los Angeles. Just incredible protesting, of course, immigration enforcement going on in there. And my first thought was just like, I'm thinking good for Trump. I'm thinking good for Trump. There's a part of me though that's wondering if it's going to be enough. And really what we're looking at here, I guess, is just the fact that we're looking at so much has, or I should say so

little has been done for so long, that this was a natural reaction, don't you think, that California pretty much thought, and especially all the Los Angeles illegal aliens, of which there are many, it's just an incredible amount of people there, are pretty much going to say, hell no, this is our country, Reconquista. A lot of this is just Mexican. They're flying the Mexican flag. And I'm looking at that. Were you as angry as I was when I saw it?

Both Linda and I are looking at that yesterday, and you're just wanting to spit. It's like, as Greta Thunberg would say, how dare you? Right? Remember, used to make fun of her. By the way, I guess she got detained by the Israelis over the weekend too, because she and some other Hollywood people were showing up trying to get past the Gaza blockade. And so that was another interesting little side story. But yeah, the story, of course, when it comes to nationwide, though, Trump ordering the National Guard there.

And it is, these riots have pretty much engulfed a lot of Los Angeles. Violent unrest, Of course, when it comes to nationwide, though, Trump ordering the National Guard there, and it is, these riots have pretty much engulfed a lot of Los Angeles. Violent unrest shut down the 101 at one point. Yeah, the 101 freeway through downtown LA completely shut down with the influx of protesters. And once again, fiery but mostly peaceful. You think that the country would be tolerant this year of fiery but peaceful protests? That's one question I would toss out to you this morning. 7705633770KMED.

Fiery but peaceful. Oh, by the way, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, she's also very upset about the National Guard being deployed here. We're really at the end of this tolerance phase, aren't we? You think we're finally going to get past the tolerance phase and that little bit of water? It would seem to me that even reasonable people want their neighborhoods not to be burned. You okay with that? 770-5633. Pardon me, I have a little bit of

allergy cough still hanging on over the weekend. Man, it was just scorching yesterday, about 100, 101 or so by the the end of the day. It's going to be another scorcher today, about 100 and maybe a few clouds this afternoon. Still a chance of a thunderstorm. That's the part that we're always looking out for, a chance of a thunderstorm and possible lightning strikes. We may see more of that. We might get cooled down to a little more of a normal temperature starting Wednesday, Thursday, but yeah, the next few days are going to be pretty hot. I don't know about you, but yesterday morning, knowing that this... I don't really have the time to do a lot of yard work

during the week. It just doesn't work for me because of the working schedule. You know, you get home at, gosh, you know, three, four o'clock in the afternoon and you don't really feel much like going out in the heat of the day and weed whacking. But boy, I did a quick mow of the front in the backyard. And the problem that I've had in my backyard especially was the growth of the wild grasses, or the wild grasses that just came in with all the rain. And I whacked it down once a few weeks ago. And it just continued coming back with a vengeance.

But I was kind of concerned about the fire, the fire risk of that, because the weeds right on the fire line and those... it's amazing how quickly the wild grasses have grown in this springtime here in southern Oregon. So I was out there whacking it, whacking it down, and I ended up putting dark tarps over it, so I'm gonna try to kill all that stuff off and then maybe lay down some landscape or cloth, but I just had so much of it where the former homeowners had kept gardens before and so we have all this fertile soil and we're not gonna do anything with it.

Maybe I should just plant grass and be done with it, actual grass, but I didn't really want to have any more lawn so I haven't figured out quite what I'm going to do. 20 bags of two cubic feet of mulch. Maybe I'll start throwing that down once I get some stuff down. But I needed to kill the vegetation first. So that's kind of what I was doing over the weekend. And by the time it was noon, it was like 90 something. And I just do not work the heat well. I can handle a lot of things. It can be as cold as it gets. And I don't know if it's my Midwest and Eastern bringing up with always being cold in the winter. I love the cold. I'm not a big fan of 90, 95, 100, you know. By the time I was 100, it's like

yeah I just want to sit inside and play Yahtzee and watch Netflix. That's where I was. Stuck a fork in me a little bit later that day for sure. Top local story, homicide, Wilson Elementary School body was found there yesterday morning around 630. Bedford police they end up going to the parking lot of Wilson Elementary School dead man discovered. Still an investigation, they're not giving a whole lot of details. They're looking over surveillance photos and various other things. They are saying that there is not a threat to the community, which I thought was interesting,

but I think that when you hear not a threat to the community, most likely... Now, I know I'm jumping to conclusions, but drug deal gone bad, some kind of robbery, something like that. What would you think? If you know something, let me know. 770-5633. But when you see something like that, dead body you think if you know something let me know 7705633 but when you see something like that dead body in the school yard and they're saying that there's nothing to worry about it seems to be they're kind of figuring out that this is yet another dirt bag encounter dirt bag with another dirt bag maybe like I said I could be getting ahead of myself 7705633 770 KMED Let me go to the phones here this morning.

The LA situation, front and center. How are you doing this morning? I think this is Tom, isn't it, Tom? You, Tom? Yes. Good morning, Bill. Yeah, what a sad situation. You know, I think of your priorities of love and I'm still engaged in the feudal attempt to understand the liberal leftist mindset of how why invaders are are have a greater Priority than the citizens here in this country and it's kind of scary You know if you're a die-hard Democrat or a die-hard Republican, you're not seeing the blind spots and limitations.

I see both political parties as having mind control, if you will, and you have a limited view of what's going on. Well, both sides, you are right about that, they have relatively narrow overton windows. I'll give you that. Okay, I think that's a reasonable thing. I could even see a lot of my own biases, which you know, I have to go, yeah, I'm going to need jerk in one direction automatically on certain issues. I get that. I think we all do, to an extent. Yeah, and I've had knockdown drag out arguments with Jacob Horbinger of the Libertarian Mind, said that many libertarians don't believe in the border.

And I think if you don't believe in the border, you don't really believe in government, you don't believe in a country. And there's a lot of momentum. I mean, you see it all over the place where people say, you know, governments are all bad and so forth, which I think there's a lot to that. But governments have their place because there's bad people in the world and you need to protect things. I mean these tin pot dictators all over the country love to lob a bomb in our direction and because of all the terrible things our government's done to them.

Well, you know, when I first came to talk radio or even just as an older adult, started aging into things and started getting a little more politically aware, it's funny that I went through my pure libertarianism phase. I think everybody, I think many people do at some point. Yeah, me too. Yeah, and then you realize that there is a lot to admire in libertarianism, but it's one of those things, unfortunately, where the libertarian ideal works really great if everybody else is the libertarian ideal and relatively peaceful, orderly people.

That would be really, really nice, don't get me wrong, you know, to sit here and you volunteer to pay for the services you want rather than being forcibly extracted at the barrel of a gun. You know, I get that part is really, really great. There is a challenge though that humanity just, most of humanity doesn't really want the libertarian society. They're not mature enough for it. It does take a certain level of maturity and responsibility that most people, yeah you're right, a lot of people are not really there, unfortunately. Yeah, it really is. So, you know, so the situation down there, I mean, gosh, you know, I was born down in California and lived a good portion of my life down there and just watched it go downhill. I mean, just even when I was in high school, it was having a lot of tensions coming

from, you know, the migration, if you will. The older Mexican people, when they came over and they were working, they were so grateful. They were beautiful people of the earth and so forth, open hearts and so forth, and they were so happy to have a car, have a place to live. It was, you know, really paradise in a certain way, but their children whom I went to school with were angry and resentful. Why do the whiteys have so much more, the bigger cars and so forth and so on? It's a generation thing that I worked alongside of some of the older picking

strawberries, picking apples, working in the nursery and so forth. I worked alongside them and I was able at that kind of window in time to see a really difference in attitude and generations and so forth. But now we're looking down there and you see all the anger in the streets and the people are just as just angry as all get up. Well you have to understand also Tom that what we're looking at here is a significant, not all, significant portion of the illegal alien population in Southern California. It's not about, hey I'm just here for a job I'm going to try to better my hand in life, that sort of thing.

You're looking at a large number of people that have been part of a not-so-subtle Reconquista movement. This is our land, we are going to take it back from the gringo, from the United States of America, Great Satan, and all the rest of it, really. On that note, basically all this land belonged to the Indians, and the Spanish came and showed up, and they stole it from the Indians. We stole it from the Spanish, from Mexico. I think Mexico owned California for a total of, what was it, 18 years or something like that. Isn't our bottom line really that, you know, with all this talk about stolen land and you have the progressives with their stolen land,

oh, we're sitting here on Southern Oregon University. I was at a performance Tutankov's piano deal a few months ago, right? And they're doing a stolen land thing there, even at SOU, and I'm just shaking my head because every piece of land in one form or another is stolen from one person or group to another at some point in history. And you know what your property right is ultimately, Tom, and this is once again going back to the animalistic side of human nature is that it's your property if you are able to defend it from invaders and people taking it from you. Then it's your property, essentially, is what happens. The biggest invader that all of us are dealing with is the government itself, our own

government, quite an invader. I mean the idea that unless you're paying money to the state you cannot own your property. That's where the libertarian mindset I agree with. I mean, you have to be very careful with your own government. And you know, there's a balance between having enough government and too much government. I think we're way, way on the other side of too much government that's not doing the things that should do and then doing things that should not. Well certainly, would you agree though that the number one form of government is to prevent the kind of wanton, violent,

peaceful burning of your downtown areas? That would be like job number one. And maybe... The peaceful burnings and murder and so forth. Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, this is... It has its place. Yeah, we can't be tolerant of this. Tom, I always appreciate your thoughtfulness, thoughtfulness rather, take on it. Thoughtfulism, yeah. Is that a word? Maybe we just invented that. Thoughtfulism on a Monday morning. Thanks so much. Alright, you be well. 27 after 67705633 if you wanted to join in here.

The burning of Los Angeles this morning, or at least a good portion of it, a good chunk of it, and what else is on your mind today. This is the Bill Meyer Show. Homeowners are discovering what lawn care professionals have known for over 30 years. A little bit of open phone time, noodle around on the headlines too for this matter. Of course, major headline here in southern Oregon, of course, a homicide investigation body found yesterday, Wilson Elementary. and we don't know the whole story there but when the police are saying that everything's probably okay I thinking what drug dealer drug deal gone bad maybe something else like

that you not that you want to think about that kind of crime here in southern Oregon is being okay it's just another dirtbag drug dealer that that ran into the wrong person but maybe something something else. I don't know. Dave's here. Hello, Dave. What's on your mind here this early Monday? Well, I wanted to say is with the occupation force that's in LA, and they try to say it's mostly peaceful, well, then I could say it's mostly violent. And, you know, the mayor of LA and Governor Newsom remind me of V.C. France. Yeah, these aren't the Nazis that you think they are, right? That kind of thing. Right. Michael Schellenberger had an interesting post on one of his substacks. I don't know if you read him or not, but I was I was reading a piece. In fact, Kevin Sterritt forwarded it along to me. He says, the part that you

have to understand is that what we talk about as radical, they absolutely despise and hate normal people. And it's something that, frankly, Republicans in Salem need to understand, too. There is no reasoning with people. These are people who are anti-civilization. They are not civilization. They are not for the rule of law. And by the way, there's a lot of evidence that is suggesting that what's happening down in Los Angeles has been pushed by a lot of NGOs and non-profit groups that have been pushing for this kind of radical point of view. So I wouldn't be surprised about that. It's early in that investigation though. Yeah, but you know, the way you deal with rioters is... I know they've been using CS is the rioters is I know they've been using CS and you know and flash bangs but you know maybe they need to have some snipers up there and they take out

the ringleaders. Could be. I don't know. Could be, yeah. Appreciate the call Dave. Hope you're well, okay? I'm well. All right. Epic Times Chief Investigative Reporter Josh Phillip is going to join me here in just a few minutes. And we're going to shift away from Los Angeles. Maybe he does have something to say about that. I'll ask him at least. But we wanted to talk about the recent call between China, President Xi and of course,

the United States President Donald Trump. Who has the upper hand on that? We'll kick that around and more all along the way on KMED. From the KMED News Center, here's what's going on around there. The Bill Meyers Show is on. News Talk 1063 KMED. 6.35. Epic Times Chief Investigative Correspondent Josh Phillips with me, or Josh Philip. No S on the end of the Philip, is that right Josh? Welcome to the show. Good having you on. Hey, real pleasure being here. Thank you so much. All right, well one of the top stories of course that you being the

investigative correspondent, I imagine you spent some time down in Los Angeles in border, seems to be pretty hot zone at the moment. What do we know here so far? Anything that jumping out at you after you were down there? Yeah, so I was there pretty late last night, actually. I had a long night. I ran into some very kind of shocking things. So the main area downtown, around the federal building, around the police station, they had the whole thing locked down. From what I assumed, what I heard was about 10 p.m. Onward I got there shortly after because I wanted to see overnight You had helicopters flying over you had police blockades blocking off access to those areas

They did have a dispersal order. So I mean again, they weren't letting people pass that checkpoint Beyond there there was a helicopter flying you could hear hear loud booms going off. I did see fireworks going off at ground level. So I assume protesters were throwing fireworks. Also, you had groups that were setting fires to cars outside the perimeter. From what I understand, talking to individuals on the ground, I understand that what the protesters were doing, or some of them, they were setting fire to police cars, not police cars, any car, including police cars, outside the main perimeter. One area I was very close to it, actually, before the police got there, there was what

looked like a van on fire. Police came in, huge line of them. You know, riot police jumped out, they made a perimeter real quickly. But I saw something very strange actually that I'm probably going to raise more of an alarm on. I was dressed normally. I didn't have like a suit on or anything like that. I was standing by a bridge and I was just kind of recording some stuff on my phone. A man came up next to me, a protester, and he you know was holding in

his hand a pair of, a lot of them are using these like painting, painting breathers. I noticed a lot of the protesters had the same exact ones. I noticed this guy talking to himself. I look over and he had a radio in his backpack. Like you could, it looked, I mean I and he had a radio in his backpack. Like, like you could, it looked, I mean I don't know my radio that well, but it looked like an expensive one. He's talking on his radio, plainclothes guy, looked like a protester. He radioed something and he was looking across the freeway. Shortly after that somebody set up, somebody set another car on fire across the freeway.

And I noticed there was a small group of protesters with him who were moving to that location right after that. So my assumption is that you had the main area where the protests were taking place, but you had groups going around and they were setting fires and it was causing the police to have to redeploy to different areas outside the perimeter. That was my main experience last night. Now Josh, what's really interesting about that, the way you described this, is that there appears to be a sophistication and an organization involved in this. And there are some reports that I've been reading that are suggesting that we are looking

at not grassroots, just, hey, this is just some organic kind of protest, but that there are perhaps some shadowy NGOs and others involved in something like that. Have you had any evidence that, especially when you talk about people showing up with the same kind of breathers and communicating on radios, that's not just a standard, this is just an organic, we're really upset that ICE is here, we want to make our voice heard. It's not that usually, is it? Well, so this is the way these protests, so first off on your question, are there NGOs

involved? I can't remember the names of them off the top of my head, but I have confirmed there are several activist organizations that are involved with this. And you know, they tend to be your professional protesters. You're going to find them at most of the protests. And you know, people think, oh, you know, the pro-Gaza protesters, the pro-Latino protesters, the Black Lives Matter protesters. Not all of them are part of this, but you do have networks and

official organizations. They do the signages. They have, you know, common signs. They have the names of their organizations on them sometimes. They're known, but oftentimes those ones, and they're like, they're communist and socialist groups often tied in with the same, like, umbrella networks. They're the ones who tend to cause most of the problems. And so I think what people are seeing is in LA you have the normal groups out there protesting. I mean I guarantee you Los Angeles you probably have a lot of people who normally just oppose you know deportations, plenty of them. But you also have groups that are definitely agitating. There are without a doubt groups out there agitating and I don't

fully know if the ones I saw were part of those organizations, but they do look very organized and very professional. Josh, one of the names of a group that I heard being mentioned is CHRLA, the Coalition for Human Immigration Rights, and I don't know, do you see any signs that had any that kind of logo on it? Just curious. I did not see that one in particular. I'm aware of a second organization that's tied in with, tied in directly with the network. Again, you know, here's the thing. So you have parent networks and they often register and create sub-networks or individual movements. And so, you know, the names sometimes, they're useful because you can check the

organizational ties, but they'll oftentimes create new ones for specific movements. Do you think that National Guard has it or has a lid on it at this point in time or not? So from what I saw, I only saw National Guard present at one of the areas and that was right by the the courthouse or sorry right by the jail. From what I read online, I mean afterwards, basically what's happening is there are 300 National Guard deployed and they're mostly just guarding federal buildings. The police were out in force and where I saw the National Guard, they were embedded with

the police. And we're not talking about general order, we're talking about just protecting federal property and courthouses for the most part? Well, and that's what the public statement was. The public statement was they were sending National Guard to protect federal buildings and to help protect police. But the police, the police, from what I saw, were very, very efficient. They were very organized. I don't know if LAPD fully has it under control because I have some mixed reports on that

and I know that there are officers in other nearby areas on standby if they need them. From what I saw of them last night though, they were very organized and that they did seem to have things relatively under control, although I don't think they did earlier in the day. Were the police tolerant of the... The groups. Are the police tolerant of the reasons for the protests? I mean, it's kind of curious

because you see the LA County Sheriff and the LAPD Chief both kind of putting out press releases that seem to be very, well, milk toast, I think would be the way to describe it. But maybe there's a difference between the way the rank and file are treating it in the way the bosses of the departments are. Any thoughts on that? From what I know, I don't know the LA police as well. I do know that generally speaking when they do public statements they have to be a little more, they have to be a little more mil-toast than they would be behind behind closed doors. But I can say normally the rank and file have a very different perception.

I do think it's going to change a bit though in LA just because you have such a large Latino population and you know a lot of people say their mother-in-laws or like their moms might, you know, might be illegal immigrants. So you know it's a little complicated in LA so I don't know you know, might be illegal immigrants. So, you know, it's a little complicated in LA. So I don't know what the general consensus is. Josh fell up with me once again, and he's with the Epic Times. He's their chief investigative correspondent. Thanks for the release that report down on the Los Angeles from this morning. Now you were at the border too. What's the latest on that? Anything happens before we shift over to China here for a little bit?

Yeah, so last year I actually did a full investigation. I went down to Panama, I went down to Mexico, I went to the US-Mexico border, and I was investigating, I wanted to find out what was actually running the operations. What I uncovered was there's an international agreement the United States is part of called the Global Compact for Migration. It's an agreement with the United

Nations and that agreement is what provides the funding and the organization for you know what we saw is the migrant crisis, the caravans, the NGOs, the funding and then we get to when they get to the US the processing facilities. Basically people would turn themselves in, they'd go to what they call processing facilities, and then they would register them for temporary protection status or other forms of like, on the list for amnesty, and then release them into the country. They'd give them bus tickets and plane tickets. And so I got the whole thing on video. I did a mini-documentary on it last year.

On Friday, I went down and linked up with one of my contacts who was a, you know, he's a current serving Border Patrol agent. He's also with the Border Patrol Union. And he took me to some of these areas. The processing facilities are gone. So they've completely dismantled them. He told me they offered them to the military because the military does have a presence now. They didn't want it, so the processing facilities are totally gone. The military presence, at least in the San Diego sector, what they've done is they put up barbed wires. So they have two layers of fences. There's the primary fence and the secondary fence, the primary one being closer to Mexico.

They have barbed wire on both sides internally of them. And it's thick. It's like, you know, military grade. I understand they have a more humanitarian type up there, so it's not as dangerous. But from what I'm told, it does work as a very strong deterrent. And so they're seeing from a thousand people a day to like, you know, double digits, maybe 60 people a day. So there is a massive change in the border security, at least in that particular area, from one administration to the other now. Okay.

Oh, massive. Absolutely massive. When I was out here last year, I actually got access to some of these back roads, and it was group after group after group of illegal immigrants. And a lot of the ones I saw actually were Chinese, where I was. It was Chinese, and there was a lot of... And then when I was in Derry, and it was a lot of Hondurans, and a lot of Hondurans mostly, actually. Josh, speaking of Chinese, let's talk about that call last week because this is something you've been reporting on Epic Times. Once again, Josh Phillip is the Epic Times chief investigative correspondent. And about the phone call, that excellent phone call supposedly between the president and President Xi from China, and any details?

That's something which kind of got lost in all the drama we've had over the last few days. You'd agree pretty much on that, huh? I do agree. So President Donald Trump did have a meeting with CCP leader Xi Jinping about a potential trade deal. And I do have my concerns about it. I've been investigating Chinese eschianage actually in the United States since about it. I've been investigating Chinese espionage actually in the United States since about 2008. And so I'm very much aware of how they operate. I'm very much aware of how they try to infiltrate different circles. And I'm very much aware that if they do sign a deal with the US, they might agree to even a very bad deal for China. But the way they operate is they'll just violate it right away. With Trump in

office, they might wait three years. But three years, my biggest concern is that ahead of COVID, during COVID, because of the economic lockdowns and other things, a lot of factories left China. A lot of companies, they call it de-risking because they don't want to get stuck in lockdowns or crazy regulations. So a lot of people pulled their factories out. If a trade deal is made that brings the factories back to China, they will sign anything. They will sign the worst trade deal in the world, and it'll look fantastic for the US. But what will be the result is our factories will move back to China. And in four years, eight years, we're going to be in the same boat we're in now.

And personally, that's my biggest concern. In other words, they'll cheat. They will and they have. Even under Trump, Trump is saying they're already violating some of the deals. But it would be clear to say that I would say that the tariff war here has actually caused some pain to the Chinese. Could you affirm that? Oh, absolutely.

The tariffs are detrimental to them. So even before the current tariff wars, China was facing a real estate crisis, they were facing a banking crisis, a debt crisis, that was even without anything else, was potentially going to destroy their economy. And then if you add to that a lot of factories leaving China, I mean, you're talking roughly 60% of their economy just evaporated through that. I mean, just between those two things alone. What you're having now is you're also having a protest movement in China called the Live Flat Movement.

So younger Chinese people, they're not getting jobs, they're not taking care of elders. It's almost like a, I don't know if it's them being lazy or if they're doing like a Gandhi type thing, like non-violent protesting. It kind of reminds me a little bit. They're crushing the economy. It reminds me a little bit... They're crushing the economy. It reminds me a little bit of how some younger generations in the United States have said,

well, I don't live to work, I work to live. In other words, is this kind of a more emphatic approach to we're not just going to be a cog over at a Foxconn factory for Apple iPhones or something like that. I don't know, is that kind of the way that the youth in China are looking at this now? Partially. I mean, I do think it probably differs person to person. You do have some who are just lazy, you know, I think without a doubt, but you also have some who are doing it in open opposition to the Chinese Communist Party. But you also have some who are doing it in open opposition to the Chinese Communist Party. And so the lie flat movement, it's don't work, don't go to school, don't even take care of your parents, which is kind of the extreme one, because in Chinese culture it's like, you know, they take care of their parents.

Boy, that's a rough one. It almost sounds like it's almost a withdrawal from society and creating a parallel society of sorts, really. Well, yeah. withdrawal from society and creating a parallel society of sorts, really? Well yeah, and the biggest problem China has is because they had the one child policy in place for so long. They don't have young workers and the working population is, I mean at this point, nearing or far beyond retirement age. In other words, got a lot of fat and happy and just

people sitting around. I don't know though, this is a stupid question. Maybe it's a stupid question here, Josh. How do they eat? How do you eat without the, without, you know, is there aid available like that? I don't know how that works there. They're living off their parents is how they're eating. But that's a temporary solution. Yeah, okay. But in addition, you also have open protests on the streets. I mean, it's getting to that point also. Boy, everybody's unhappy everywhere from the sounds of it, even in China, for sure. All right. Ultimately, though, the takeaway from the meeting between

President Xi and President Trump, though, is that China will most likely sign... I just want to reiterate, though, you're is that China will most likely sign, I just want to reiterate though, you're saying that China will most likely sign what would appear to be a really really bad bill or trade agreement for them but they'll just ignore it after a year or two or more, right? Is that it? The bottom line? Give it two years. I mean my concern is this could be a repeat of you know basically the same thing Richard Nixon and then Bill Clinton later on signed, where our factories left for China and then didn't come back. It can be good for us in the short term, but I am very concerned about

the long-term effects. Josh Phillips is the economics, pardon me, the Epic Times, rather, chief investigative correspondent. Where can people find out more about you? Do you have your own writers page over on Epic Times? How do people find your stuff? Yeah, so I do a show called Crossroads. Crossroads Joshua Philipp. You can find it on epictv.com or on YouTube. All right, very good. Josh, great talk. Thank you for bringing us up on a lot of these hot stories right now. You be well and you must be tired as all get out. So maybe get some sleep, okay? Thanks. Appreciate it. Thank you. 653, this is KMED 993, KBXG. Getting ready to refinance or sell your property? Learn more about wildfire prevention at keeporegongreen.org. News Talk 1063, KMED. You're waking up with the Bill Meyers show. Appreciate you being here.

We have some open phone time for the next half hour or so. We can noodle around on just about anything you want to talk about. Could be the LA riots, could be the trade war, could be what I think is a really, really interesting story here. Gosh, I just lost it. Let me see if I can find that here in just a minute. But it has to do with...oh, wait a minute. I think I just found it. Let me just...a second. Here it is. Got the story. This is a story which broke on Friday and kind of got lost in the LA riot conversation over the weekend and all the irritation about that.

Trump administration challenging Oregon over the voter rolls in a lawsuit. And this ended up happening, reported by OPB and others. But Friday, US Department of Justice announcing it would file a statement of interest in an ongoing lawsuit between a number of conservative plaintiffs and the Oregon Secretary of State's office. U.S. DOJ says it's watching the case closely for signs that Oregon violated a federal law, the National Voter Registration Act. Now some of what's here though, it says that, part of the suit, accurate voter registration and rolls are critical to ensure that elections in Oregon are conducted fairly, accurately, and without fraud, U.S. Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dhillon said in a

statement. States have specific obligations under the List Maintenance Provisions. This is what we're talking about, the cleaning of the roles. I think it's how that translates, though. The maintenance provisions of the NVRA and the Department of Justice will vigorously enforce these requirements. Now meanwhile, you have the Secretary of State of Oregon, Tobias Reid, not commenting on the Friday litigation, and he says, what I can say is that we take our responsibility to maintain secure,

accurate voter rolls seriously," he read in a statement, or, Ghanians want and deserve fair and free elections, and we must do everything in our power to deliver. Yep, so fair, so free, so transparent, you can't even take a look at the ballots after an election to do any kind of audit, not unless you have a million or two, and that's because of the Tobias Reid rules. Actually, they're not his rules. They were put in place in past legislation and also later Secretary of State folks. So we have that. It'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to watch that. But Harmeet K. Dillon is not... Now, she's kind of serious as a heart attack on these voter rolls, I guess, and cleaning them up. Hi, good morning, who's this? Welcome. Hey Bill, it's Wild

Sam. Hey Steve, what's on your mind this morning, this Monday? It's a beautiful, what's a beautiful start to Monday that boys are gonna get hot? Yeah, cook your eggs on the sidewalk. Darn right, what's up? I heard your guy from the Epic Times saying that there are organized people using radios. And, you know, I'm a ham radio operator and I know a little bit about the federal government and they could, they have equipment that they could pick those guys out in a heartbeat. Oh, no doubt. No doubt about that. If you are, probably if you're

coming up there with signal intelligence type people more so than just standard troops ready to enforce some order there, protect the property. Yeah, why wouldn't they? You know, that would be an easy, you know, maybe they're using a frequency that's out of handbands using those Chinese radios or whatever, but they're very vulnerable and I think that would be really cool if they just went and rounded up all those people. Of course, which also says that if you're trying to do something as if the government ever turns on us big, big time, then that means that that's not real helpful for that sort of stuff. Well, you know, they got a lot of technology we don't have. And so, yeah, I don't think using ham radio or any kind of radios to be in organization, it's gonna be helpful to you.

Yeah, not in light. Now, there are ways I've read that you can do things with just, you know, click codes on radio, all sorts of other things that you can do without actually saying something, but still, whatever. You know? Yeah, it's, you know, with the technology that the government has,

they can track any of that stuff. You know, I run into people every now and then that have bought ham radios, those Chinese radios, and use them in their four-wheelers or whatever, and they just use the frequency the radios come with. And when you tell them there's a $250,000 fine for operating a ham radio without a license, it kind of widens their eyeballs. Yeah, you're absolutely right about that. It's something where just understand the rules, look up the rules.

Of course, the best thing to do is just go get yourself, if you don't want to be a ham operator, get yourself a GMRS license and get those repeaters and everything else in there. Life's good. It'll be fine. Yeah, that will at least get you connected, but you're not going to be able to use those to do some nefarious thing very effectively. I'm just surprised that they haven't. Well, maybe they're trying to find who's running that stuff. I don't

know. I could see them doing that in which you have people coming in from the military, they're monitoring the signal intelligence going back and forth between the various actors, and then you're able to get a pattern and then work up a possible warrant or some other...or maybe it's also about following it back to find out who else they're associated with, that kind of thing? Absolutely. Where's their base station? Where are they operating from? Because they're all kind of shadowy creatures wearing painters breathing apparatus.

Yeah, they all have the exact same model of painters apparatus. But that's not organized or anything, right? Nothing like that, right? And they're talking on the radio. That's just all die that that those a little bit about how things were talking so you know that this the thing i would throw out there this month eight it's not too day but i have a that rock in my shoe tuesday okay what's that my wife has contributed to a few things and as she is now not able to do anything.

And so I've been cleaning up, going through stuff she's saved. People send you thank you letters and stuff and with these little tags that you can put on an envelope with your name and address and stuff on it. Those things are useless and Nobody sends letters anymore. And you don't put them in the garbage because they've got everything. And I get hundreds of them. Well, you say you get hundreds of them, but you say nobody sends letters to each other. Well, people send out letters for you to contribute to things. Oh, to contribute. Oh, to contribute.

Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, see, they'll send you back no matter who it is. And, you know, it's a lot of the big name charity type things. They send you a thank you letter and these little sticker things. What do you do with those dang things? I don't want to put them in the garbage because I shred them, but that's a mess. Oh, yeah, the adhesives don't want to put them in the garbage because I shred them, but that's a mess.

Oh yeah, the adhesives don't shred too well, from what I can tell. Yeah, leave them stuck on their thing and shred them that way, and it does work, but it kind of gums up your shredder after a while. Maybe save it for a fire starter in the winter. Well, that would work, but they probably got a lot of chemicals. I burned some in a bucket one time, but that's just a pain. And so I just read them now.

But you know, that's not endearing to send somebody those stickers because nobody sends mail anywhere to stick stickers on. And then what do you do with them? Yeah, we have some of those stickers that we got from some group. And I think we're still on the same packet 10 years later. Well, yeah, and she contributed to some of the veterans things and sewing things and judicial watch. Judicial watch, I think they're a great group, but man, if you ever send them any money, you will get bomb...

I get two things a day sometimes from them. Well, you know what goes on? They'll probably sell your name too to the list. Alright, point well taken even though you're a little early on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, alright? Oh, okay. Well, I just wanted to get that out there since we're on the phone. Thank you, Bill. Alright, you're quite welcome. 7705633. And it's Open Phone's here. And good morning. Hi. Good morning Bill, it's Francine. Francine, by the way, I got that email from you over the weekend about the watermelon. Were you calling about that? I said that this morning actually. Yeah, you know, I thought that because one of the worst crap shoots out there in the grocery store these days is to try to pick

a melon that's actually okay. You got it. You sent me something which is interesting. By the way, I might just have to share that photo a little bit later, okay? I think I'll do that. Yeah, I was going through some of my old archive emails and I found that and I'm like, oh, I better send that out today. All right. So the thing is, is that you you look at the at the watermelon and you look at the ground spot, the part that's been sitting on the ground. And if it's white, it's a it's a tasteless one. If it's orange, it's a delicious watermelon. And then you look and then you look at the webbing.

The smaller webbing is a bland watermelon. The log, the larger webbing by the by the little spot is is a bland watermelon. The larger webbing by the little spot is a sweeter variety. And I did not realize that watermelons had gender. And apparently they don't. I know, that cracked me up. Yeah. So the male is more of an elongated watermelon. Those are more watery.

The females are more circular, a little larger and sweet, right? They're the yummy ones, yes. Okay. If it's a green stem... As long as it's not a trans melon, because then you have no idea what you're getting. Oh my gosh, a trans melon, you could bite into it and think you're gonna get a sweet one, it's just a bunch of watery goo, right? And any time that happens, that's when you can blame it on now. But the other thing is that by the stem tail, the green stem is a green watermelon. If it's a dry one, that means it could be riper. All right. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. All right. I never knew so much about watermelons. What about the actual

cantaloupes though? Isn't there something about thumping them or like the the webbing spot has to be a... I don't know. A lot of times when I'm in the store, I'll just go up to the produce, one of the produce guys, and say, come here, can you pick me up? You know what I will confess to is that sometimes before I buy the grapes, I will try one just to see because I can't tell you how many bad grapes that I've bought over the years. Absolutely. Yeah. I think they kind of expect that. I hope so because it's like, you know, they look good, they look nice and bright and green or red or whatever they might be. And then you're sitting there and you're paying three, four bucks a pound for it, it ends up just being a bunch of sour garbage. Yeah. You know, it's not good. It's sour grapes.

You know, that's the whole thing. Exactly. All right. Now, is that why you called? Because I may have just taken you off on a tangent, right? No. No, no, no, no. What's that? I called to talk about, well, Steve called in and mentioned that the government could track these people with their radios. I know, I'm sure he's absolutely correct about that. However, I don't think that's in the plans at all, because I think all these people with the identical radios, et cetera, et cetera, are part of factions of the government. They are agent provocateurs. That's an interesting theory. That's an interesting theory down in LA.

How do you think they pushed all the madness on January 6th? Remember the World Trade thing that happened in Seattle many, many years back? That's when I first became aware of agent provocateurs, people that went in there and got the violence going. All right. So you're thinking what ended up getting things lit in Los Angeles is actually a government faction, really? Absolutely. Not per se government, but they're in league. You know what I mean? We. I mean, we have all these, you know, the George Soros organizations. I don't know exactly who's who, but it's related to that. I'll guarantee it. All right. Fair enough. Hey, if you're on hold, I'll get right to your call. Open phones

here for the next half hour or so. We're also going to catch up on the carnage in Salem with State Representative Duane Yunker. I haven't talked to him for a couple of weeks. News this hour from Townhall.com. I'm Rich Thomason. A tumultuous weekend in Los Angeles.