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Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Morning news and talk on Pebble in your shoe Tuesday, Robert Tanenbaum pens new though-provoking JFK book THAT DAY IN DALLS, Bill Dagostino from Media Research Center Newsbusters digs into ABC reporter bias, more talk on JFK afterwards.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at ClouserDrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Delighted to have you here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, 10 minutes after 6. And of course, a lot of the news still coming from south of the border, south of the Oregon border, that is. Speaking of which, Governor Koteck coming out yesterday saying that

it would be illegal for President Trump to nationalize or force our National Guard to end up going and patrolling the streets of Oregon if there ended up being problems like this. But of course, she assured us though that no matter what, that she will be arresting lawbreakers. no matter what, that she will be arresting lawbreakers. That if people are doing violence, that she'd be arresting lawbreakers. Do you believe her? Yeah, I know. It's kind of laughable. It really is. But anyway, you can join in. 770-563-377-OKMD. Other news that ended up happening. There was a grass fire near Gold Hill.

Fortunately, though, in the median, it was like late yesterday afternoon, got knocked down pretty quickly. And that is good. I must tell you, every time there's a grass fire or something like that, we had the fire going into last week and over in the Phoenix area. Actually, I think it was Sunday in Phoenix, wasn't it? Yeah, Sunday is when they had a grass fire there.

And man, they just threw everything at that. And no one's taken any chances on this. They're throwing everything at it. On the bad side of things, Senate bill 1098 ended up passing. State Representative Dwayne Younger let me know that and he was talking about that yesterday a little bit and over the last few weeks too. This is actually giving the state of Oregon even more control over the school library books and the ability for our local school boards to be able to challenge the porno books that masquerade as LGBTQ agenda setting tomes, you know, that sort of thing.

It's gonna be a lot tougher. It's gonna be a lot tougher. And you know, I'm still going to insist that, hey, it's great if we can get good people on school boards, but the state legislature seems to be doing everything to cut the knees out beneath good school boards. And ultimately, if you want to save kids right now, encourage parents to get their kids out of their failing government school. There's just really no way about it. And you have people on the school boards to try to save the future generations. But if you're trying to save the current generation, I think you honestly have to

get them out of there if you're going to protect them. There are just certain things. Things that they put in schools, in fact, I've received copies of passages of many of these books, stuff I can't read on the air. I couldn't read it on the air without hitting the dump button again and again and again. And it's just stuff that not that many years ago would have had you arrested for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, I mean, in seriousness. And grooming the kids for pervertedverted activity it's just

totally inappropriate and Oregon has made it that much more difficult to challenge it of course they'll call it a book man Well librarians don't buy every book that comes out every you know anyway, there's it'd be impossible There's millions a year they end up getting published or hundreds of thousands Let's say or tens of thousands whatever but many books get published and they don't buy every single book that comes out. There's always a choice. And now the state of Oregon has refused or has made sure that it's difficult for the school board to refuse the choice of your woke librarian. And that's really the bottom line.

The librarian industry as a whole is incredibly woke and hard left real Prague type of a situation. So that was a rough one and of course like I would remind representative Younger everybody else and he knows it I'd be banging the same thing you're all there you're all there providing quorum they haven't passed all the budgets yet but you're still there providing quorum. They haven't passed all the budgets yet, but you're still there providing quorum. It's like some of the stuff could have been negotiated away, but I know that would take some real spine. Not a whole heck of a lot of fight, unfortunately, in the GOP against the hordes of Democrats

controlling things. Meanwhile, Oregon, 14 other states suing the Trump administration over its plan to allow the sale of forced reset triggers that make semi-automatic rifles fire more rapidly, and the return devices already seized to their owners, the lawsuit Monday arguing that it's not a violation of law, they had seized the trickers originally, and now since they've decided that they're not a violation of law, that they're returning their property to the people who they were seized from, and Oregon is suing over this. Okay, well it's just another another thing to get some gun control, some gun control credibility, I guess. I don't know how else to, you know, to explain this one. Riots spreading, of course, in Los Angeles. Marine battalions sent to Los Angeles to protect the

federal government and staff and assets. Around around 700 troops based out of 29 palms got their deployment orders. They're headed there. Newsom's non-cooperation with federal law enforcement putting Californians at risk. This is according to the Trump administration. Meanwhile, this is kind of a different wrinkle of trying to fight the federal government.

And I wonder if we could use the same the same way of working this in Oregon against our state though I guess. CBS News reporting that California, oh I'm sorry wrong story, I had my wrong story here let me see if I can find it. Here it is, this is what he's doing. CBS News reporting that California Governor Gavin Newsom is floating a federal tax boycott. So this is how he's looking to fight the Trump administration, and that would be to pull the money. And this has to do with California being one of the donor states, one of the big donor states. There are many states that are net receivers of federal income tax money because they're small populations and probably large amounts of land. I would look at Montana is probably one of those. California though is a big donor. There's a 83 billion dollar gap between

the money that California shovels into the mall of the federal government and what it receives in services. And so they're talking about, hey, we're just a way to withhold it. In 2022, California residents and businesses provided $692 billion in tax money to the federal government in return. They got $609 billion in federal funding, leaving a gap of about $83 billion. And so what they're talking about is just withholding federal tax payments. In response to Newsom's post about boycotting federal tax payments, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who of course, as we know, is as serious as a heart attack, as I like to say.

He warned in a social media post the other day that the governor is threatening to commit criminal tax evasion. Now, as much as I find California a disgusting government state, a disgusting state government there, I mean, it really is. It's a miserable failure in many ways. I don't know if that works. There's a long history going back. In fact, I might have to call Steve Maureen and get him on the show tomorrow and talk about this. He's my constitutional... well, he's my constitutional friend, used to be in the

Marines, and he has a JD. Right? That's why we call him Steve the Marine, but he understands his stuff. And he's a psychiatrist, so he could psychoanalyze my problems too. We'll have all that going on. But I'm pretty sure that there's precedent or constitutional backing for California to do this. Not that I like them fighting the Trump administration over this, but this could be something. This could be actually an interesting battle. The clash of the behemoths, you know, that sort of thing.

And if California were to withhold some or all of it, the 700 billion or 800 billion or however much they owe, that could really make for some interesting times, couldn't it? Yeah, I think so. 18 minutes after 6 at Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, this is the Bill Meyers Show and you're on KMED 99.3 KBXG. 770-5633 if you wanted to join in. Whether you're building one house.

Hi, I'm Paul Strandberg with Valley View Nursery and I'm on KMED. I promise you we're going to have a look back here at the JFK assassination. I've read so many JFK assassination books over the years and of course the imagination stirred with the release of more JFK information from the federal government. I wanted to talk with Robert K. Tannenbaum. He is a former deputy chief counsel for the Congressional JFK and MLK committees and a brand new book which is out, very interesting, boy it is a deep dive. It's called That Day in Dallas, Oswald Did Not Kill JFK. And Robert, it's a pleasure having you on. Morning, sir.

Well, thank you. Pleasure to be with you. Thank you very much. So, back in the 1970s, you were doing the prosecution, so to speak, for the government's case. Is that a fair assessment of what you were doing back in those days? I remember it when I was a kid in high school. I spent my first 10 years in the trying murder cases, that is prosecuting murder cases, and I was in charge of the Homicide Bureau in the DA's office in Manhattan, and I was in charge of the Homicide Bureau and handled the murder cases that were there. So I had 10 years of the experience of actually trying cases to verdict, that is prosecuting those cases. And it helped immeasurably when I was asked to take over the investigation for the House Select Committee on the investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy.

So you can imagine the number of cases running the criminal courts in charge of the criminal courts and the Homicide Bureau when I was in the DA's office. So for 10 years I, you know, tried at least, I would say conservatively, two cases a month. And those were cases diverted. These were cases with no less a plea kind of situations. And I found that the evidence in the case was overwhelming with respect to what the facts were. And one of the facts and one of the pieces of evidence that I was able to obtain was

a letter or a document from John McC, who was head of the CIA, he took over after President Kennedy fired Alan Dulles after the Bay of Pigs fiasco. And Alan Dulles was playing ball with all the people who believed that, believed fervently, that the Bay of Pigs was a very important operation, except that President Kennedy saw it as a complete, a complete shocking disappointment as a result of what happened. So he fired Alan Dulles and put in John McCone. And McCone on March 3rd, 64, wrote a note in response to James Rowley, who was then

Chief of the Secret Service. They were concerned that the American public would find out that Lee Harvey Oswald was a contract employee of the FBI and the CIA starting in 1957 and he was at a Sugi Air Force base then monitoring U-2 flights. So I guess what I'm asking you know what I was kind of wondering about this though is that does this mean that all this stuff about being a Russian agent and the defection, it was all kind of a government operation? Is that sort of what you're what you're getting to, Robert? That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Oswald was used by the government for many, many different reasons. And it turned out that McComb, in response to the notion that the American public

might find out that Oswald was a CIA operative and an FBI CIA operative, he said in this document of March 3rd, 64, this is the head of the CIA now, John McComb, and he said, while the person is involved in the assassination of President Kennedy, of the employee of this agency, the CIA, this is the head of the CIA making this admission. So you talk about evidence in the case, that's one, just one piece of it. The other major piece of it was these minute metallic fragments. They gave us the direction and point of entry into JFK, into the head of JFK. So it wasn't some cook running around saying, this is what we saw. In addition to which the government could not admit that somehow or other, if JFK was shot in the back,

that his head went back, notwithstanding watching it at frame 313. So what we see at the truth of that Deerley Plaza was there were not just three shots as the government argued and how can they keep arguing it when they claim that all three shots were fired from the back and one hit JFK in the head and in the back with a downward track. And how are they going to justify that? Because there were not three shots, there were five shots. And the shots took 8.3 seconds basically. I had all this new information because of handling

the immutable evidence in the case at the time and the scientific audio visual acoustics, which most people weren't privy to. And the truth in Dealey Plaza was that the five shots occurred, the witnesses said very quickly, well in fact it was 2.6 seconds. And then they said there was a pause,

and the pause was, I was able to determine it was 4.8 seconds. The reason for that is so important is JFK's head, his head, JFK's head, his head, JFK's head snapped violently back and to the left, leaving him immobile, bodily depressed, and slumped dead on his wife's right shoulder. Well, if that's the case, how could the government have any knowledge about the case that wasn't artificial

or contrived or predetermined if his head violently snapped back. You can't have a head snapping back if it's hit from the back. You know, Robert, what is it? There have been a lot of JFK books, and this one is pretty comprehensive, I've got to tell you. Why is it important that the Americans today get to the truth of this? Why does it still matter in your view? I'll let you have the final say on this. I'll tell you why, because the single most

important issue right now in our justice system is who killed our president at 1230 in the afternoon at Deerly Plaza and why did the government come out with all this false information? We need to know who killed our president. We need to know why and how it happened. And the evidence is out there. Everything that Richard A. Spray did, who was the chief counsel, who asked me in October of 1976 to go to Washington with him in January of 77 to start this investigation, we had no brief when we went down there. We didn't believe in one thing that we were going down there that was contrived in any way or predetermined conclusions. And the government said they wouldn't interfere, because we said, if you interfere in this,

we're going to leave. And they swore that they wouldn't interfere. It only took them four months to prove that that was not the case. They interfered substantially. I had information about the CIA itself participating in the assassination and whether or not it was a rogue operation or it was a CIA operation per se. And the head of the committee, the chair of the committee was Lou Stokes from Cleveland, Ohio. And Lou told me that they were no longer, the majority

of the committee no longer was going to accept what Richard A. Sprague and I, our investigation is revealing when that could have tell out to the American people. And that's when Sprague and I left. And no sooner did we leave than the person who took over and never tried a case in his life, never investigated a murder case. And in fact, hired immediately well-known CIA operators who took over the investigation. So that's why it's so important.

And a matter of fact, when President Trump said in his first term that he was going to release the JFK records, he didn't do it. And people said, why didn't you do it? He said, because if you saw so many things that are alleged in that in that report, you wouldn't have released it either. That's exactly what we need to know. The American public needs to know the truth. It's not just some people who are blessed with gold in their veins perhaps, but they're not the only ones who need to know the truth. The American public needs to know the truth so that God knows this thing never happens again. Robert Tannenbaum, he's the former deputy chief counsel for the Congressional JFK and MLK committees and author of That Day in Dallas.

Oswald did not kill JFK. Robert, I appreciate your take on it this morning and that's why it's still important. I know a lot of people are wondering, what? Still talking about JFK's assassination? Yep. And I wish I had a little more time with you. Maybe we can get you on separately. This is the Bill Meyers Show. Bill London, KMED. 632. It is Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, Diggin' in the Dirt. We're Diggin' in the Dirt with Robert Tannenbaum. Interesting book.

That day in Dallas, Oswald did not kill JFK, and it's different stuff. And it also appears that definitely Parkland doctors were intimidated on the autopsy reports too. There's a lot of evidence in there it's worthy of talking about. Vicki, you wanted to weigh in on this too because I asked him why is it still important to look into this case? Long time ago. First of all, if Trump said that he was going to release the paperwork, the evidence or

whatever that they had on the murder, basically, of JFK. I think he should. It doesn't matter how bad it is. Well, he did. Now, they did release some. Remember, they did release, you know, a tranche of those reports here recently. I don't think that everything, absolutely everything, has come out yet. Just to be fair. Well, no. The only reason I can see that he wouldn't release all of it is because maybe it has something to do with the Republicans and he doesn't want the public to turn on the Republicans. But I think it's very important that everybody, well, Bill, you know, every president that has ever tried to be for the people, they've either tried to kill or run out of office. So that right there in itself tells you that it was a conspiracy to get him out one way

or the other. I think we deserve the truth. I think it's been decades and decades. I'm not going to tell you my age, but I do remember you know. Let me put it this way, were you able to remember that as a school child? No. No, okay. No, I was a little younger than that but I just remember the controversy and all the theories that were going around and just that they wouldn't, you just couldn't get the facts. And I think decades later, I mean,

it's so important for transparency. And if Trump is a transparency president, I think he should release. He may think it's so bad, but you know what? We deserve to know. He was our president. A horrible, horrible thing happened. and by the way they try to Look at how many people try to take out Trump this time around to actually yeah

All right, Vicki appreciate the call there seven seven oh five six three three here. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Hey Bill, it's well salmon. Hey Steve good hearing from you. How are you this pebble in your shoe Tuesday's beautiful start to the day? That's for sure. Well, I am as good as I can be given everything that's going on. A little change of subject, but the Pennsylvania attempt on President Trump, there's the same sort of stuff going on there. The guy that supposedly shot Crooks shot him within five seconds of the time that Crooks fired his gun. And there's no way that a person could acquire the target and fire in five seconds. So that guy had to have his aim set to be able to do that.

So you're still suspicious that even with candidate Trump's assassination attempt, you're thinking that there was still more than what we're being told right now? Oh yeah, I mean, how could that be? I do some long range shooting and just to set up for, don't know they said the two guys that shot from the roof that were like 230 or 130 yards away they both dang they fell off the roof if you remember seeing the footage of the two snipers on the roof one was prone at the peak and another guy had a tripod set up and both of them almost got knocked off the roof by firing their weapons.

They said that those two missed. It was another operator that was farther away, substantially farther away, that took him out. You think it's still important that we get to the bottom of the JFK deal? It was so many years ago. Oh yeah, absolutely. You know, I was in high school when that happened and there's too many things that don't make sense about that. The whole deal of they just keep telling you stuff until you believe it. You're past that, huh? All right.

Thanks, Steve. All right, so let me go. It's the Early Riser's Club here on the Bill Meyers Show. Hi, good morning. I think this is Francine. How are you doing, Francine? Hi, Bill. Yes, it is I.

What's up? I've been looking into this JFK assassination conspiracy for many, many years. Me too. I have read so many of these books over the years. I can't tell you some that I found really good. Others have been quite lacking. But you know, but it just never seems to stop stirring the imagination. Of course, this guy who was involved in the congressional, remember the congressional hearings in the mid-1970s, Tanenbaum, he was the

one leading that or part of that. And so that was when they declared that, yeah, it was a conspiracy and that Oswald wasn't the guy. There was something else going on there. Yeah, your guest this morning was right on. I looked into it. I've seen all kinds of videos. I wish I could remember the name. A couple of them were, they inserted all these cartoony things

to kind of help illustrate it. But it was, you know, it talked about, they even believe that the coffins were switched and all kinds of stuff, but it all makes really good. And so many weird stories about this over the years. I know it's weird but but but really I mean who I can't word that one but there's others that I totally believe like

one of the there was a shooter station in the in the sewer. Yeah. In the sewer where there, you know. Yeah. The angle of trajectory trajectory would have been really good, really good. And, and also what a great place to, to be able to hide too. Nobody sees you really. No, I know it was, it was, it was a really well-planned, nasty, horrible

thing that they did, you know. I think what was my, was my opening of my mind about it was when I read about the gun, the Carcano, the Carcano Italian rifle that was supposedly the assassination weapon. And I saw that they had some ballistic experts try to fire that thing. It wouldn't hit the broad side of a barn because the sites were loose and they were not zeroed in. It was just ridiculous. You would have thought that they would have done a better job of planting a proper weapon,

but that's just me. No, I know. But listen, there's another video that's still around, and if I can find it, I'll send you a link to it. Alright, you do that. Thanks, Francine. The early morning JFK conspiracy deal. But yeah, he was offered to me. I thought, hey, we'll talk to him for a few minutes. He's probably forgotten more about that assassination than I will ever know, that is for sure. 20 before 7 there's talks and a call to fire Terry Moran from ABC News over the meltdown that he had over the weekend we might get to that in just a moment. Get your tickets now and get ready to rock the

night away. Boy that is serious. News talk 1063 KMED this is the Bill Meyer show. That's serious heavy metal at the Jackson County Fair this year. Maybe they'll keep the superheat away. I don't know. It's a 18 before 7. It is really interesting what's been going on over at ABC News. They ended up suspending Terry Moran the other day over a meltdown that he had over President Trump. And I wanted to talk with Bill D'Agostino about this at the Media Research Center. Bill, it's great to have you on. Morning, sir. What happened? What happened with Terry, huh? Yeah, it's good to be on with you. Well, unfortunately, Terry

went out and started saying things that I think that most of us suspected he always believed, certainly after that Project Beretov video came out a few years ago where he was admitting he was an about socialist. And I mean, look, everybody's familiar with ABC's coverage. Everybody's familiar with the kinds of things that Terry Moran says on air, right? But he just, I think that he gave the game away a little bit. He revealed his hand. He was referring to Trump and Stephen Miller as basically moral monsters. I believe the exact phrase was that they eat hate or live off of hate. Yeah, let me redefine

that. In other words, I politically disagree with him, but you know you have to... Right. Right. Well that's always how it is, right? People of his political bent, basically they have to assume that anybody who disagrees with them on a fundamental level is either colossally stupid or colossally evil or both. And Stephen Miller seems to have a special place in Terry Moran's heart as just the single most awful human that's ever existed. I mean, if you read this, it's very unhinged. Some people were speculating that maybe he'd been drinking based on just like the timing of it and how bizarrely honest it was. Yeah, drunk social media posts are not a good idea.

Ever. Ever. Yeah. Even worse than drunk ex-date calls or something like that. You know, just, oh, tip your back. Right. Yeah. So...

I can't confirm that, though, to be fair. Okay. You know, nobody has any evidence of that other than the Fact that well the timing and how preposterous it was so you know draw your own conclusion All right, so the call from MRC though is to actually have him fired and why is that why is that? Well, he should have been fired years ago Well, he should have been fired years ago. Terry Moran is basically only suspended now because he made the mistake of telling the truth about what he has always believed and what nothing will ever change him from believing. And this is not some deep-seated bias that he has that he really fights hard to push

down inside himself and then go do his job as an objective journalist. These are the exact kinds of thoughts that inform his reporting and that inform the way he goes about his job at ABC. And so, I mean, what is the suspension going to do is how I would counter with that, right? Like, will a few days off work make him suddenly, miraculously not believe any of these things that he just said. And frankly, the only reason that Terry's in trouble is because he happened to share these opinions in public, but the vast majority of ABC staff appear to have the same opinion based on the way they cover things.

I mean, certainly if you could get Mary Bruce under the limelight and give her some truth serum, she'd be right there alongside him. George Stephanopoulos, it's most of the network. You have a bunch of information up on newsbusters, including what, Moran calling Trump a furor, accusing him of stirring racist fears, neo-Nazi ways. Boy, there's a real focus, a real single-viewed focus on this one. So, yeah, I guess I kind of see your point, but some of the stuff that you've come up with is kind of laughable. I forgot about this one,

about Terry Moran saying back in 2009 that Barack Obama was the first president since George Washington to be taking a step down into the Oval Office. Oh my god, I completely forgot about that one. Oh yeah, no, I watched that at least once a year, that clip. That's my favorite Harry Moran quote of all time. It's incredible. I mean, yeah, the level of political indoctrination that you have to go through to not just think, but then proudly declare something like that on national television or in this case, in that case on a podcast, I believe. But the

point is, this is who Terry Moran is and it's who he's been for, you know, a decade and a half now at the very least and probably much longer than that, right? And so he is, he should never be anywhere even close to a newsroom, right? He should not see the inside of a newsroom. Well, if anything though, he shouldn't be a news guy. He should be an opinion guy, I guess is what you would probably say, right? Wouldn't that be the, you know? Sure.

Yeah. Turn him into an off-ed guy, but get him off the reporting track. Any accolade or title that he has that at all implies that he is some kind of objective truth for somebody whose job it is to inform the American populace as opposed to share his opinions on things, yeah, no, that should be taken away from him because he has proven

time and again, he has a long crack record of proving that he is not up to that job. He's incapable of wielding that degree of power and authority responsibly. And so he doesn't deserve it back. And frankly, a suspension is the bare minimum of what ABC could do, which is why that's what they've done. The only reason that ABC acted at all is because they understand that this hurts their credibility more than it's already hurting. What credibility do they have left at this point? It's already flagging and so they can't take any more hits to it.

So they decide to punish him in the mildest way possible, but still punish him, right? So that people can say, see, look, they're doing the right thing. They're not doing the right thing. If ABC wants to do the right thing, Terry Moran will no longer be a reporter. What does it look like in the modern media landscape? I know everybody talks about the influence of cable news, but even today, isn't it true that the major networks still hold the largest share of audience at this point in time? Where is that ending?

Oh, no, by far. And the gap has only actually grown in the past half decade or so. So if you're talking prime time cable, unless it's like the top top MSNBC or Fox show, most of these shows are going to top out at a million or a million five in terms of viewers. And daytime and outside of prime time it's... What was that Bill? I lost you there for just a second. So daytime, what happened to daytime? Go ahead. Oh daytime and outside of prime time and evening. It's well below that. Whereas for broadcast networks, the evening newscasts, so just those 30 minute broadcasts on ABC, CBS and NBC, nightly get a combined total of about 20 million, 19 to 20 million per night.

That's across those three networks. So you can, so Fox and Newsmax and all the other ones, they can talk about, hey, look at our big ratings where we have two and a half million or three and a half million, maybe with Jesse Waters. It's a fraction then. This is why Americans are so stupid or ill-informed even today. That's part of it, wouldn't you say? I mean, ultimately. Yeah, absolutely it is because it's a terrible format for news and yet it's the most watched news show and beyond that they don't do any, they don't put in any work to actually make the format as informative as possible, right? It's a rapid fire. It's often said 90 seconds

is like a lifetime in broadcast news world. And so these little bite-sized packages are not a good means to consume meaningful information. It's at the very best the cliff note. And often it's not even the cliff notes because they are intentionally leaving out as many things as they see as hurting their narrative. I have to ask you here, by the way, Bill D'Agostino here, MRC senior research analyst, it's MRC News Busters. And by the way, are they reporting?

I haven't watched ABC News. I'm going to have to watch this to see how they're covering this stuff. I normally don't watch this stuff, so you do, so I don't have to. But what I'm kind of curious, are they covering the LA riots? Is it the peaceful protest or mostly peaceful protest or is the narrative like we're mostly here just to watch the cars burn and have a good time? I'm just curious if you've been noticing any particular bet.

The insane messaging that you were referencing there, the mostly peaceful stuff, just watch cars burn, have fun, quote. That's all predominantly cable. Okay. On the broadcast networks, what you're seeing instead is a, not a huge amount of interest. They're certainly covering it and they feel a duty to cover it, which is good. But it's a bit of this both side thing, right? And they'll play clips from Newsom or Karen Bass or whatever, you know, because it's a complicated political issue when one side is running around burning cars and the other side is supporting law enforcement, right? So, you know, they got to show both sides of that debate.

All right. So the call for Terry Moran to be fired. I'll be curious to see if this happens. David Boazel ended up putting that out there from, you know, your MRC president saying time to fire this. You have a great montage up on, now it's just newsbusters.org, where would you go to see that montage again, Bill? Yeah, come check us out at newsbusters.org and also follow the News Busters page on Axe. Alright. Just add News Busters.

But the one that gets me though is still the first president since George Washington to take a step down into the Oval Office. In other words, it was beneath him. Gosh. I know, I know. A community organizer and freshman senator. Who knew? Who knew that that was a higher station of the presidency? When you're anointed by God, which is what Terry thought Obama was.

Yeah. Anything to step down from that, right? Terry Moran kind of reminds me of, I don't know how old you are, Bill, but when I was a kid, I used to watch Roadrunner cartoons on Looney Tunes, and it was like, Wile E. Coyote, super genius was one that I recall recall and that is it. Thank you my friend. Good having you on, okay? Be well. Thanks a bunch. Take care. Bill Degostino, senior research analyst at the MRC. It is 653 at KMED 99.3 KBXG. Hope you are well. 7705633. It's Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. You had a pebble or two? Let me know about it. The popularity of Fontana Rubin's metal. Welcome to the Bill Meyers show on 1063 KMED. Give Bill a call at 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. Early morning risers time for open phones. 770-5633. 770KMED. We were talking JFK a little bit earlier. We have

Gavin Newsom who wants to impound federal tax money and go to battle with President Trump. In other words, we're just going to cut some of the money off. And constitutionally, I believe it is. Dave, you were yelling at me saying it's impossible for them to do that, right? Isn't that what you were saying? Well, what I'm trying to say is, is because the IRS has their own collection office, if you own a house, they'll just come and take it from you, regardless of what Nielsen does. So I think it'd be a good idea if you have property that you should pay your property taxes so they don't come and seize it. Well, it's not about property taxes.

It's about the... It would actually be about the state impounding the internal revenue payments coming from California to the internal... to the federal government. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, if you own anything like stock or bonds or real estate, the IRS can impound that. Well, that would be... I think we're kind of talking

past each other on this one. This is about, in other words, now see, remember the states end up collecting the income taxes. Remember that? In the withholding, in the withholding, you know, the state ends up, I have a feeling they may have the ability to do it. It wouldn't be very hard. I'm just saying that it could be done. It could be done, withholding. withholding but anyway was that why you called I don't I don't know but I just remember you were yelling me a little earlier about that yeah well it's because it's stupidity the feds can just start coming in and seizing state property but another story I was two years old when JFK was killed, murdered, and I remember the sadness as a two-year-old of all the adults, and they were having a hard time explaining it to children.

I remember that too. I was about two and a half at the funeral, the funeral time, and I remember that too. I was about two and a half at the funeral time. And I remember that sitting in front of the television and everybody was sad. We were all watching it. And I didn't really understand the reason for it at that point. But I do recall it even at that age. Yeah, I'm with you on that. 7705633. Hopefully we get to the bottom of that. Tom, I know that you have called and

you think that the JFK assassination thing is still important because of the way it has corroded our government even up until this day. It almost set the pattern in place. Is that pretty much where you were coming from before? I know you've talked about this a lot over the years. Yeah, I see it as the day that the deep state just really took over the country 100% for sure. And the reason why it continues to be buried is they don't want the average person out there to realize that America is a deep fascist police state that's actually being run by the deep state and not the real government. In other words, all this talk of Trump is going to be the threat to democracy and bring us into fascism,

in your opinion, we're already there? Yes, correct. And look at even this Ukrainian bombing that Trump was not allowed to be a party to or understand or know about. And so we have in the United States basically a crypto-fascist deep state and the big money. Now, what does it mean when people say crypto, like crypto-fascist, what do you mean by that? I mean hidden. You know, I call our government a fascist police state covered by a thin veneer of democracy that people think, oh their voting still works and we're all free and we can say things and do things. So we can still vote for our dictator governor in Oregon as an example. If you get too close to the deep state, they will come back at you. I want people to look up

maybrussell.com. She has revealed all the assassinations that occurred around the Kennedy assassination, all the witnesses and so forth, until she herself was murdered years after exposing all of this. Now was she JFK's mistress or was she LBJ's mistress? No, no. Mae Brussel was a research ordinary housewife who just got captivated by the whole murder and she had a dozen filing cabinets. She goes into really deep, deep analysis and information that's no longer really available, but she goes into the big party they had at the D.Morin Child's party and LBJ coming out and telling his mistress that, well, we're not going to have to worry about the Kennedy brothers anymore.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, first of a coup. You know, the thing that I will say that is good about the internet today, now it's a good and a bad thing. It is great that a lot of that information, which was known, but back in the days of just mailing something to someone or using a courier, or just using a telephone, you'd never really get that dispersed very well, or you'd get it distributed, just wouldn't. Certainly no mainstream publishers would have touched a lot of that stuff back in the early

1960s. And, of course, the bad side then is that a whole bunch of faked up garbage can be spread too pretty easily. Yeah, you know, but you know, when I look back at it, it was really the cover-up that I saw all over the place. It was pretty obvious. There's a huge cover-up going off the way the information was blocked. And that convinced me at the time of 1970 or so that I realized what was really going on.

I have never trusted or respected our federal government since that time. All right. Thank you, Tom. 7705633, this is all keying off of talking with Robert Tannenbaum this morning because he was one of the people in the JFK retrial in the federal government in the mid-1970s when they came up to a completely different conclusion from the Warren Commission. Let me grab a quick more call before news here. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Welcome. Gene, and I've got a few points to bring up on Kennedy's murder. Okay. Give me a good couple here. I'm just burning daylight. Okay? Okay. The witnesses in the park said that a shot came from behind them.

Also, with Oswald, he was going to talk. He's surrounded by cops. How come they let Rudy get in there to murder him? Yeah, yeah, I know. That was a big one. Big open hole. Well, that was something that bugged me the whole time is what they said and what the governor was coming up with.

Also, the vice president, I think, Linden Johnson. Well, anyway. Yeah, detestable individual. Okay. With the Justice of the Peace to swear him in as President when Kennedy hadn't even been declared dead yet. I'm not familiar with that part, but all I remember is the picture with Jacqueline with the blood still on her there next to LBJ being sworn in on the I think that was on Air Force One at the time. Appreciate the call there Gene. It is KMED KMED HD1 Eagle Point Mefford KBXG

Grants Pass. Last week I had a conversation with Dr. Jane Orient MD and she ended up coming out to kind of hard against the Medicare Advantage plans. Lynn from Sky Park said she wanted to come on and kind of explain why the Medicare Advantage plan could be good for some people and kind of fill in the gaps where she disagreed with Dr. Jane Orient. And of course, we all love Dr. Jane Orient. I think she's a great fighter for medical freedom. But we'll have Lynn on here in just a moment. Kevin Gill from Clouser Drilling coming on. They're looking for comment here,

trying to get this well-grabbing legislation stopped. We'll have that coming up. Herman's joining me, and he was talking to me last night, saying the cap and trade's already here, and I didn't realize it. It kind of got slid under the door. Really? Yeah.

We'll talk more about that and more coming up.