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Episode Date: June 11, 2026

Catching up on the irritating morning news then Eric Peters from EP autos dot coms joins for his Wheels Up Segment, many listener calls, questions and comments....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. Good morning. It's 11 minutes after six wheels up Wednesday. I always love this day. We have a great time talking with Eric Peters. Eric Peters, the automotive journalist and genius from epiottos.com.
Starting point is 00:00:25 And we'll get the latest reviews. We'll talk about what's going on with his, his classic cars and more and where the intersection of politics in life out on the open road. And of course, he recalls an opinion too as all part of it. I'm also going to be kicking it around with Kevin Sterrett from Oregon Firearms Federation. Haven't talked to him for a few weeks. And I always enjoy some of the stuff. We were kicking it around yesterday because he ended up finding this story from, I think,
Starting point is 00:00:50 coin TV in Portland in which essentially, I mean, we think it's rough in most of Oregon, but most of the problem really is like Portland, Eugene, Salem. But still, in Portland, they are now getting ready to talk the dirtbags to death with the social worker-type response to crime. And he'll explain some of this. We're just kind of shaking our heads. Every time you don't think it can get a little bit crazier in Portland, it gets a little bit crazier in Portland.
Starting point is 00:01:20 We're also going to be talking about blood donation and actually a platelet donation. It's not normally something that I think a whole lot. Of course, it's really serious. It is needed. But the American Red Cross is going to be closing a part of their donation center here in 1st of July, I think is what it is. And a gentleman who donates platelets, I forget the exact name of the term, but he'll talk more about this. Ron Palkevala. He'll be joining me next hour.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And he's trying to get them to go to a different schedule and maybe save this part of the donation clinic. Okay, so we'll kick that around with him. Nils Gravilius. Yes, yes, the name of the James Bond villain. Yes, I'm Nils Grivilius, but actually he's an L.A. area private detective. He'll rejoin the show. We'll be talking about crime, the guilty verdict in the Carmelo Anthony murder trial. And I think that's actually really good.
Starting point is 00:02:18 That was a good thing. You know, it seemed obvious. This is the kid who ended up stabbing the other kid at the trap meet, and then was claiming self-defense, you know, as, you know, essentially it was this standard thing with urban crime of, of dirtbaggy, disrespecting me, you know, kind of stuff. And actually, I think it will be great when U.S. society returns to the way we used to think about it, that if somebody disrespected you or even just shoved you around a little bit at a school track meet, that you didn't get all stabby, all right? You don't get all stabby on that kind of stuff. But we'll talk about that with Nils. Also, Steve, Steve Yancey and Lynn Barton from Sky Park Insurance coming in here.
Starting point is 00:03:01 We're talking a little bit about what's going on with their business. And the possibility, if you have been getting turned down for insurance, for fire insurance, there are some different options opening up. You know, it's been going on ever since the map controversy and just because of higher wildfire ratings in general. and there have been some real issues tied around that. And Steve has a talk about that. It might be able to help you out. We'll dig more into that a little bit later in the program.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And so, yeah, kind of maybe more help available because there is the state program, but the state program does not really help all that much and pretty expensive. But there are some other options. Everything's going to be on. Hey, everything when it comes to the fire insurance right now, given the conditions on the land,
Starting point is 00:03:51 pretty expensive, but we'll talk about some other options that may be available. All right. Some of our top news from around the country in the world, Iran shoots down a U.S. Apache helicopter in the Strait of Hormuz. They did rescue the crew members using a drone boat. Didn't know they had those, but I guess now we do. And President Trump vowing retaliation, probably at the same time saying, yeah, a deal is happening at any moment. Now, he didn't say that yesterday.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But, you know, that's become kind of the running joke. And Iran is threatening retaliation. Soon, a heavy response will be given to the enemy's hostile actions. All right. Stay tuned. Meanwhile, inflation running hot. All right? That just came out.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I don't know what that's going to do with the markets today. Maybe market futures down because then they're going to say, oh, no, the Federal Reserve is not going to give us free money again. I don't know if that'll happen or no. We'll find out. We'll keep an eye on the markets for sure. Graham Platner, Nazi tattoo boy, ended up getting the Democrat nomination for Senate in Maine. So he'll be taking on Senator Susan Collins, the Republican this fall. Of course, she's been there what since the late 90s, I think.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Nazi tattoo boy, yeah. You know, it's interesting. People are going to just look at the hypocrisy of the Democrats. Like, you know, Graham Planter, you know, Nazi tattoo boy. And we on the right or the Republicans, we kind of get a strange sense of satisfaction by going out and pointing out the hypocrisy of the Democrats. Well, look at that. Graham Platner, the Nazi tattoo boy. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:05:31 They're the real racists. Or maybe I should just change the voice on that. Kind of like a dumb cartoon character, right? Because I know that they were, what were they doing? Oh, yeah, they were interviewing the clown from the Southern Poverty Law Center that left-wing, racket, right, that has been attacking the right for a long, long time. They were grilling him in Congress yesterday. And one of the people grilling him said, well, would you vote for, no, what about Graham Platner? What do you think about that? Grand Platner, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:00 the Nazi tattoo boy. You say you're against racism and Nazism and all this kind of stuff. What would you do? And then the clown from the SPLC says, well, I wouldn't vote for him. And then everybody points out, you know, from the right wing talk show hosts, we're like, look, Look, the Democrats, they're the real racist. They're the real racist. We got them now. We got, oh, stop it. It doesn't matter how many, how many bits of hypocrisy that you find out there are the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It doesn't matter. And when will Republicans start realizing this? The Democrat Party, that is the real party of racism. And then we cluck to ourselves and then go on to honor. lose in elections sometimes because, you know, we've got to understand. When it comes to the Democratic Party, democracy doesn't matter. It's just about getting and maintaining and using power. That's it.
Starting point is 00:06:56 By any means necessary. It doesn't matter. Now, maybe Plattener will have problems, Nazi tattoo boy. Maybe he won't. Maybe he won't get elected. Maybe he won't beat Susan Collins. But it may matter more to the idiots. in Maine that there's one fewer Republican to help out President Trump.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And they haven't been willing to help them out all that much anyway, even at this point. That's all that will matter. And yet, I know that we Republicans as a group will tend to go, look, they're the real racist. It doesn't matter. Look what they're doing. Me too. And then they're going out and getting all rapy and hansy. They're even worse.
Starting point is 00:07:44 They're the real racist or the real sexist. It doesn't matter. When will we get that through our fat head sometimes? It just doesn't matter. Oh, okay, so we caught Democrats at another hypocrisy of saying one thing and doing another. It doesn't matter. So go ahead and make a note, but don't think that it's, you know, that it really will move the needle that much where, oh, we own them now. Oh, look, it's a cell phone.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Doesn't matter. It's about power and by any means necessary. And I think we'd be a lot healthier emotionally if we would start realizing that rather than, gosh, we're exposing all the hypocrisy and then the Democrats still get elected. Like in Oregon, for example. Yeah, it doesn't matter how crappy it gets in Portland or whatever it is. And people know that it's Tina Kotech's policies. And then you ask them, well, what are you going to, are you going to vote for maybe Christine Drazen? Oh, no, I'm voting for Theta Kotech.
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Starting point is 00:10:30 Wheels up Wednesday, 21 minutes after 67770-5-633-770 KMED. A little closer to home, Joel Caswell. Remember that guy? Former Jacksonville contractor used to own the Portland Nitros ultimate frisbee team. Boy, that is a sport that I would pay to watch. Said no Bill Meyer ever. But I guess there are people into this. I know, I know. Sports ball. Anything to distract the rooms.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Okay? I know. I know. I know. Now, if you're playing it, that's fine. It's good, good exercise. But I just don't get the focus on sports. in the American culture. But be that as it may. Caswell, he'll be sentenced in October. Joel Caswell, remember he had just tons and tons of pandemic-era fraud charges, defrauding federal programs, you know, keeping the money, you know, all that kind of stuff, all the COVID stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:26 And now he also was alleged to have been involved in that drive-by shooting out of Northeast Medford. And I guess those charges were dropped. They ended up dropping that one. So he's had his issues. So he's been Jackson County jail for a while. And he is going to go to jail. Officially he could face up to 30 years in prison for all of it. But the plea deal that he copped yesterday in federal court in town,
Starting point is 00:11:54 it's going to be more along the lines of 42, 42 months. And he'll have to pay $1.2 million, just a little bit under $1.2 million in restitution. I guess he does have a family trust or something. so maybe there are some assets that can do that. So he's not getting out of jail anytime soon, all right? The story that really got me going here as I was reading it last night. And I put it in the news today from the Grants Pass Daily Courier. Oregon Health and Science University Hospital is being sued for $17 million by the parents of a 13-year-old grants pass girl.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And what happened? And by the way, is the daughter of Stephen and Lori Stokes. and so it was last year that they're claiming that OHSU Hospital accidentally put a heart valve upside down in the chest. Her daughter was having open heart surgery there and put the valve upside down in her heart. It was an accident. It almost killed her because they tried to restart her heart after this, after it, and then the heart wouldn't restart. Then they had to put her back on the heart-lunged machine or whatever they do.
Starting point is 00:13:01 They had a cardiac bypass. I think they had to do that. and then there was a lot of touch and go. This poor girl was in big trouble there for a while. And they told the parents that they thought it was because of the shock of the surgery. Well, then a Seattle hospital ended up on taking over the case, and they poked around and found the heart valve in the wrong place. And so, needless to say, the lawyers involved.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So it could be $17 million, but that lawsuit was filed this week. What else is going on with the health world? Oregon Health Authority To revisit new pool rule requiring adults accompanying kids under the age of 14. Huh. I didn't realize that Oregon Health Authority covered in regulated pools, but apparently our biggest agency in the entire state of Oregon, well, there's nothing that they can't see.
Starting point is 00:13:58 along with our LGBT elder people being abused and beaten. You know those kind of Department of Health and Human Services, but anyway, OHA, revisiting a new pool rule and they're going to require kids younger than 14 to be accompanied by adults
Starting point is 00:14:14 at general use public swimming pools during open swim periods. They're going to adopt this temporary rule, so all public pools will have to post to sign with the message that OHA recommends children under 14, be accompanied by an adult. And yes, if it wasn't for OHA requiring pulls to put up a sign suggesting that anyone under
Starting point is 00:14:38 the ages of 14 be accompanied by an adult, you know, we would just be putting our kids into mortal danger at all times. But I don't know. Maybe parents in the state of Oregon are stupid. So anyway, they were saying that after hearing from parents and caregivers of older elementary and early middle school age kids, the food, pool, and lodging health and safety program is proposing additional discussions with the community and regulated partners to gather more input, ensure equitable access to public pools, and continue to keep kids safe.
Starting point is 00:15:13 This according to Gabriella Goldfarb, manager of OHA's Environmental Public Health Section. So just imagine how many people are in that, in just that little teeny section of Oregon Health Authority, Just that little teeny part of the Oregon State bureaucracy. And you wonder why the taxes never go down. Okay. So they're going to be notifying pool operators of the signage. You better get the sign up. Get the sign up or else.
Starting point is 00:15:44 We're now suggesting, of just suggesting, I'm just thinking about, how do they learn how to swim? Okay, dad took me and threw me into the family pool. That was about it. I think I was four. Hmm. There was no there was no well Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:16:00 Department of Public Health signs saying you know your parents really need to accompany you there and I don't know but the amount of bureaucracy in this state is just absolutely insane. What was the other one? There was something else I saw with OHA. I think it had to do with
Starting point is 00:16:18 OHA celebrates Pride Month or something. Oh no it's not that oh no it's a different it's a different monstrosity. Paid leave Oregon celebrates pride. Pride month. Supports families of every kind. Now, paid leave Oregon. Paid leave Oregon is the racket,
Starting point is 00:16:38 which we're forced to pay into if you work, and supposedly they'll grant you paid leave. And remember, we had the situation going on with Danny Jordan yesterday talking about how we're getting to the point where paid leave Oregon encourages public employees never to go back to work. Maybe not never, but it's just amazing. It was a fabulous talk Monday when he was out of the chamber talking about this. But yes, in recognition of Pride Month, paid leave Oregon is reminding Oregonians that paid leave is for families of every kind, including LGBTQ plus families, chosen families, blended families, and other caregiving relationships.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yes, this is down the same sort of thing that, oh, yeah, I'm sure that, you know, someone who's two-spirited or whatever it is, a member of the island of misfit humans, would say, you know, I would like to sign up for paid leave because I need pay. paid leave for whatever reason. And, you know, I'm kind of concerned that they won't give it to me because, well, I'm a member of the island of misfit humans. Makes your teeth hurt, doesn't it? Just a little bit. Just a little bit. All right. It's 28 minutes after six. I don't even know if I want to take a phone call or I'll take a phone call. Maybe there'll be a pallet cleanser, or maybe it could be a crazy person. Maybe it's a crazy person. It could be both. Hi, K. Well, it's minor day. Oh, it's a crazy person. Great. See, you're always the, you're the earliest riser among the early morning commenter club. You know that. Well, yeah, because I have to get up and
Starting point is 00:18:04 do my business in the morning. But anyways... Too much information, Dave. We have an anniversary date coming up on Sunday. It's called June 14th Flag Day, and it's the 249th anniversary of the adoption of the American flag by the Continental Congress. It's also my birthday, and it's also President Trump's birthday. So I wish everybody, happy Flag Day, birthday. You know, with you sharing President Trump's birthday, you know, I'm in the middle of writing your recommendation letter because I want you to get that pardon. Okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 All right. I'm just going to say, now remember, Minor Dave is also, shares the birthday with President Trump. Give him a break. Okay? Can I do that? Yeah. All right. But anyways, I think the most important is Flag Day, is being the 249 anniversary in 740.000.
Starting point is 00:18:58 1976, the Continental Congress adopted our flag. Good. Well, it's a good day, and I guess we're going to be having, well, I guess we're not going to have ultimate fighting. Are we going to have ultimate fighting that day? I don't know the White House. I thought they were going to do that. Do you know, Dave? Well, you know, I think what they should do is invite all the congressmen and senators to the White House so they can box each other.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Now, I just like to see Talib and AOC in like a, you know, a mud wrestling match or something like that. That'd be great. Wouldn't that be cool? That'd be great. Yeah, yeah. You know, she is kind of cute. Well, I think Taleb would take her, though. I think that would be a, that would be a rough one.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Could she see her going up against Collins? Okay. I think Collins might have a few. She doesn't exactly, Collins may be a good senator, I guess, for Maine at least, but I don't think she could take, I don't think she could take Taleb. Talib's kind of meaty, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:50 No, but I think it'd be fun to watch. Well, that, of course it would be. You know, the heck with these congressional softball tournaments and things. It's 630 at KMED. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here in just a bit. And then wheels up Wednesday, Eric Peters. We're going to get that rolling here in just a minute. Lots of good stuff to talk about.
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Starting point is 00:21:26 in prison, but according to the RV Times, the plea agreement is more along the lines of 42 months in prison. Caswell also agrees to pay almost $1.2 million in restitution. Most of the crimes were related to defrauding federal relief programs during the COVID era. Caswell will be sentenced in October. A family in Grants Pass is suing the Oregon Health and Science University Hospital for $17 million. According to the Daily Courier, the parents, Stephen and Lori Stokes claimed the hospital almost killed their 13-year-old daughter after hospital staff accidentally placed a valve upside down into the girl's heart. Originally, the hospital claimed the daughter's heart wouldn't restart after surgery because of the shock of the operation, but
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Starting point is 00:25:58 Yep. It was a beautiful thing. You know, we take the wind, small as they may be where they are. You know, Eric, I don't want to get too much into the politics. We've got lots of stuff going on with cars. But the part that just gets me sometimes is how we'll have a national talk show hosts that are saying kind of the equivalent of what, well, you look at Graham Platner as an example. Pam Platner is the Nazi tattoo boy. You know him, right?
Starting point is 00:26:21 You had that. And now he claims that it was post-traumatic stress that gave him his racism and the texting and the handsiness and, you know, all the other things. It's like fine. And then right-wing talk show hosts nationally especially, well, I'm saying, we've got them into hypocrisy. Hypocrity. Look, look. Hypocrisy. We got them.
Starting point is 00:26:41 They're the real racist and things. I just see, don't you guys get it? This is about power. It's about power and getting power by. any means necessary. It doesn't matter. Or am I looking at this wrong? I don't think I am. No, I think you're looking at it exactly right. And I think part of the reason a lot of people, me included, are getting kind of demoralized and frustrated, is that, you know, we thought that perhaps we are going to hue back to principles with the election of Trump, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:04 for example, that the government shouldn't be involved in strong arming information dissemination. And then Trump comes along and does exactly the same thing, basically, that Biden was doing. You know, like, I'm just citing an example. The thing. with Kimmel and Colbert. I don't like those guys. I don't listen to them. But they've got every right to be on, you know, they've got every right to be on the show. And if people want to listen to them, that's the market.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And I will agree with you. I think the weaponization of the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission in this case, is to do it under Trump is just the same and not, and just as bad as it was when President Biden was talking about bringing back the fairness doctrine, which would essentially kill right-wing talk radio. It's just like, just let people talk. Okay, I don't care what Stephen Colbert does. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And another example, you know, this interview that Trump had the other day with the Meet the Presswoman, and he brought out his usual schick about fake news. And I call it a schick because it was legitimate at one time to point out that, you know, generally speaking, the so-called mainstream media is biased toward the left. Everybody understood that. And so it got traction for Trump. But when the reporter, who's a leftist, pointed out, Trump had serially promised, no more wars. I'm not going to get us involved in these Middle East debacles, just pointing out what
Starting point is 00:28:20 he actually said. And he just went into his terror about fake news, fake news. It just brings hollow. Yep, it does. But you know how it goes? We're all in our tribes. And then, you know, if you're in the one tribe, you're going to think it was great what he did, walking out. And if you're in the other tribe, oh, isn't this horrible? Wash. Rins. Tribalism is bad news. America was not supposed to be about this tribalistic type of organization of society. It was supposed to be about thinking, people come into conclusions based on facts and reason. Well, it's easier to choose Coke and Pepsi, Eric. Okay?
Starting point is 00:28:53 I guess so. All right. I guess so. So let us set that aside here for the time being, all right? We've got a lot of stuff going on. You know, I've been reading a lot lately about, I've been going to various blogs and people that have been putting out stuff because I've been wondering, okay, are there ways to bypass the tracking, the tracking that goes on in the world, the telematics?
Starting point is 00:29:14 And you and I have talked about this for a long time because I've ultimately thought that restoring freedom on the road means breaking the newer cars away from all of these computers that are plugged into the Internet. And even if they anonymize your information are feeding data to the insurance companies and the car companies end up selling your data this and that and the other. And you wrote something which is kind of along that line. But I don't know, maybe it's you say one computer is a. enough. And I was talking about trying to find the computers that actually do the spying, but what are you thinking about in this? Go ahead and break that down. Well, this is a two-parter. Of course, we have the option to opt out by not buying it. You don't have to buy into this stuff. You know, in a few months, the 2027 models are going to be rolling out. And per federal
Starting point is 00:30:02 dictat, they are all going to have that so-called drowsy, distracted driver eye movement monitor system. So you're going to be steering at a camera while you drive. A camera's going to be staring at you, I should say. You don't have to buy a new car. And I hate to be the guy that says this. I love cars. I love the car industry. I've been working in the car industry for all my adult life, 30 years. And I hate to be the guy to say, don't buy it. Just tell them, too. You know, I've been a customer of yours for many years. I love your vehicles, but I absolutely will not abide having a camera embedded in my dash that watches me as I drive. I'm going to just buy an older car that does not have that sort of technology. But that's the first part of this.
Starting point is 00:30:39 The second part of it is that you don't have to have all these computers to have a modern car. You know, if you go back to say the early 2000s, I've got an O2 Nissan pickup. And it runs and drives just as well in many ways better than something that's brand new, a 26 model year car. It has a computer, but the computer only controls the fuel injection system. The windows, the locks, all the other systems in the car are controlled in the old school way with simple electrical switches, not computers, not body control modules. We don't need all that stuff to have a modern car. People are under this sort of erroneous, fallacious impression that, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:19 not to have all this stuff means you're going to be driving a Model T Ford and having to, you know, learn how to synchronize gear shifts and all its nonsense. You know, cars have been, quote, unquote, modern for decades. You don't have to have all this electronical. What's happened, I think, is that the car manufacturers have looked upon Apple and Microsoft often love their business model of constantly continuously adding apps and new features to their software. Well, to your point, look at what happened with how Tesla, how we've talked about how Tesla,
Starting point is 00:31:51 wishes to charge you to use the electric seats that are already built into your Tesla. You have to buy a subscription in order to have that, right? Yeah, and it's not just Tesla. It's the whole thing. It's about electronizing everything. And it doesn't provide, as far as I can tell, you know, you correct me, any meaningful advantage to the vehicle owner. My, you know, 25-year-old truck, I get in it, turn the ignition. It starts immediately.
Starting point is 00:32:16 It doesn't stall. It doesn't buck. Runs and drives magnificently, just like a modern car. If you didn't know, you're the only way you know is if you open your eyes and look, oh, my gosh, it doesn't have a gigantic pop-tart LCD screen popping out of the dashboard. Now, I understand that in luxury vehicles, they're now getting away from the LCD or LCDC. or LED, pardon me, touchscreen, aren't they? Not that I've seen. Now, in the very, very high-end stuff, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Bugatti had a concept vehicle. I can't, was it the Chiron? I can't remember what the name of it was, but it displayed a beautiful chronograph style, you know, in other words, emulating a high-end watch, you know, the kind of watches that cost $30,000 and more that have that, you know, wonderful mechanical movement
Starting point is 00:33:00 that's all visible. You can watch the wheels and gears and all of that. And they, you know, they had the revelation that, yeah, you know what, people who have a lot of money to spend want something that not everybody else has. And this LCD display stuff, yeah, you know, 10 years ago when Mercedes and Audi and Lexus began putting their stuff in the cars, sure, it was, wow, look razzle, look at that. That guy in the Hyundai, he's having to just look at a needle and a dial. I have a big touchscreen. Well, you know, now the $22,000 Hyundai has pretty much the same thing that a $100,000 Mercedes has. just a few years ago. I actually kind of like needles, though. What about you? Oh, I do too. I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:38 maybe it's because of my generation and having grown up that way, but I can read it. I think I believe that objectively speaking, it's just more intuitive to see the dial, the needle, and to immediately your brain makes the connection and the information that's important is conveyed. And I think, you know, that's an important point. You know, the stuff that they're putting on these displays now is mostly extraneous. And it's just designed to razzle-dazzle people in the showroom. of, oh, look, there's a speedometer attack and a fuel gauge. Look, you can call up your altitude and you can call up the weather and you can do this and you can do that.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And that's fine, I suppose. But, you know, it just, it seems to me kind of like a bird pecking at a French fry by the side of the road. Well, maybe the reason they did that is just for that reason because even the least expensive cars are incredibly competent by yesterday standards, wouldn't you say? Oh, yeah, absolutely. This is kind of the dilemma, the corner that the industry has backed itself. into it. You know, everything really has kind of been democratized. And the features that you and I,
Starting point is 00:34:37 when we were young, were considered luxurious air conditioning, power windows, power locks, cruise control. Or in the case of the 1971 Pinto we had at AM radio, that was extra, you know. Yeah, I mean, literally a $22,000 Hyundai has all of the things that would have been considered top of the line luxurious features in a Cadillac not that long ago. And the other aspect of this, which you also write about frequently on EP autos is our concept of speed, how it's just like, you know, even the slower family car, so to speak, today is way faster than a muscle car of the 1970s. And yet we're still being told that, gosh, if you're not doing zero to 60 in 3.5 seconds that somehow you're at a disadvantage out there as the speed camera, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:22 it's a weird thing. I don't think there's a single new vehicle that you can buy that takes longer than about nine seconds to get to 60. Even the current Prius is kind of snappy. It gets there in about six seconds, if you can believe it. So that's quicker than probably a 289 hypo v8 Mustang from the 60s. The thing is, though, most people, most of the time, they're just driving. They're not running the quarter mile. They're not, you know, trying to see how fast it goes zero to 60. As long as you've got enough power to comfortably keep up with traffic, and when you need to merge, you know, you pull out from a side road and you push down on the gas hospital, sure, you want the thing to respond. Any vehicle that can get to 60, seven,
Starting point is 00:36:00 or eight seconds has absolutely got enough power to do that. Yeah, and one computer is enough the way you're looking at it, though. What I'm wondering, though, is that have you thought about maybe digging more into how to get rid of the spy tracking out of the current vehicle so you can buy a new? I don't think it's possible as a practical matter, because they are connected. That's the term. And if you disconnect it, the vehicle will no longer be in communication with the hive mind and if the vehicle's under warranty they'll use that as an excuse to void your warranty because you're not getting the necessary updates you bring the vehicle in for service they're going to hook it up and they're going to know and then they'll disallow anything that you know might
Starting point is 00:36:39 might need to be fixed on account of that and a lot of these systems are dependent on software updates you know so if you don't get the update all of a sudden the thing stops working correctly there really is no way to get out of this except by opting out of it some of the manufacturers i believe Honda is one of them, though, make it a little easier to disconnect some of them. On the other ones, they just build it into the main computer and there's nothing you could do. There's just no way. Well, you know, depending on the manufacturer, you'll typically be able to either dial down some of the obnoxiousness.
Starting point is 00:37:09 You know, there'll be like typically two to three settings, you know, that they'll allow you to do that. But increasingly, there's no off button, no permanent off button at any rate. You know, each time you start the car, you have to go through the rigmarole, looking through the screen to find where the lane keep assist, find where the park assist is, all that stuff and go bump, bump, bump, bump, and disable all of it. And, you know, systematically, eventually, they are just going to make it impossible for you to fully disable it. It's kind of like in 1984 where, you know, the senior party member invites the Winston Smith character
Starting point is 00:37:38 into his office and he's able to turn off the telescreen, whereas, you know, Winston and all the outer party people are only allowed to turn it down. Oh, okay. Yeah, so the elite will be able to turn them off. Yeah, it could be. We'll be. We'll be right back with Eric Peters. You have a question or comment on this or anything else about the open road, your cars, your vehicles, something you're looking at, or whatever. Let me know. 7705-633-770 KMED. Eric Peters with EP Autos, right back with him. Hellgate Jetboat Excursions is throwing it back every Thursday. Book one quick and scenic excursion at regular price and get the second ticket for only 1959 every Thursday. Glide inches above the river. See the native wildlife and experience the majestic views of the legendary Hellgate Canyon. Don't
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Starting point is 00:40:15 That's 720 KMED. Wheels up Wednesday with Eric. Peter's. Eric is back. Boy, Eric, we've got a lot of people want to talk, comment, ask questions and two. Let's go to Ron. Ron's over in Lake Creek. Hello, Ron, you're on with Eric Peters. Morning. Hey, hey, hey, gentlemen. How are you doing? Doing great. Doing great. All right, then. Basically, just calling to get cheap advice. My dad sold me a Nissan X-E King Cab, 1997. It's a four-wheel drive. It's a four-banger. $1,700. It's got $162,000 miles on it. Okay. I'm wondering if that was a good purchase, Eric.
Starting point is 00:41:03 It was a fantastic purchase. I own your truck. I owned another truck just like it. The only thing you have to worry about with that little Nissan truck is the guide for the cam chain tensioner, which eventually needs to be replaced. just typically around, depending on how the truck is driven around 175, 200,000 miles or so. Okay, okay. So are you willing to do a little work underneath the timing chain to keep it on the road? Yeah, I would imagine. So, I mean, the only issue I have right now is where the exhaust manifold hooks to the actual moupler. I don't know a lot about exhaust at all. But those are very interesting, the angle that the studs are.
Starting point is 00:41:54 All I can say is that that's going to be a project. In other words, Ron, it's making you contort like crazy to get to it. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Into impossible positions to where I wish my hands weren't as big and, you know, I would somehow gumby. But I've had that problem, too. Do you have access to a lift?
Starting point is 00:42:14 I do, actually. Okay. So if you got that, are you talking about? the bolts at the collector at the bottom that the exhaust system plums into. Yeah, that's hard and steel. That's hard and steel and that's difficult to do. I've been there and done that. It's not that it's impossible. It's just going to be a tough job. But it does sound though, Ron, like you got yourself a good vehicle, but, you know, just change those timing chain guides when you get the chance and, you know, keep things from blowing up. And gosh, what is that a quarter of a million? Is that a quarter of a
Starting point is 00:42:44 million or 250,000 mile engine? Eric, what do you think about that? That and more. And if you know, if you drive the thing gently, you may not have to ever deal with that cam chain tensioner. And, you know, it's front engine, four cylinder. There's tons of room. It's not like it's very difficult to get at that stuff. Now, the V6, on the other hand, that's a little bit of a tighter package. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:04 All right. Very good. Hey, Ron. Okay. Okay. So I'm just, I'm just saying my dad did me a solid. Yes. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:43:13 All right. Thanks, Ron. Good luck on that. Let me go to Kirk. I think we got Kurt. here. Hello, Kirk. How are you doing this morning? On with Eric Peters. I'm doing well. Great. I had a quick question. I think in the last week or two, Eric, you were talking about some farm equipment where they're making it so you have to have all this equipment to
Starting point is 00:43:35 check it out. And, you know, so a farmer can't work on his own piece of equipment. I was wondering if they're doing that sort of thing on regular type cars. I've got a Toyota, Highland, or newer one. And I had a maintenance light come on. Well, it was time for my tire rotation. But they said, oh, we've got a recall going on. And I just wasn't paying attention. I said, okay, what is it? They said, well, your screen, not your side screen, but the one right in front of your wheel,
Starting point is 00:44:07 your steering wheel will probably go out on you, just go black. Well, pretty much everything you want to know is on that screen. So I took it in. once I got in there I found out it was a software update and when I got it back figured they just you know fix whatever it was now the screen's different different all sorts of different stuff and
Starting point is 00:44:32 the center screen which was kind of important is just blank now and to see if you're you know have cruise control this or that on now it's just a little tiny thing about the size of a nickel that you have to look at so I was just curious of the things they did make it so I couldn't take it to an independent mechanic. Well, yeah, there are aspects of it that are proprietary,
Starting point is 00:44:59 but I think the core issue here that kind of gets my backup is here's your vehicle, and they kind of slyly tell you there's a warranty issue or something that needs to be fixed, and then they alter your vehicle without your consent. They didn't come to you and say, hey, look, we'd like to change the way your screen displays and make it do this or not do that. And then you have the option to say, yeah, that sounds. fine. No, leave it that alone. I liked it the way it was. Instead, it just alter your vehicle. Yeah. Eric, do you think, Eric, is there any way that you can roll back and update on these vehicles?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Are you aware of that? Maybe that's a... I'm sure it's possible, but I doubt that the owner can do it. You know, it's something that the dealer may have the ability to do because, again, proprietary equipment, they have access to the hive mine and assuming the manufacturer permits the dealer to do that. But the end user, you and me and the caller, I don't think so. All right. Okay. I appreciate the call, Kirk. Best of luck on that. Let me go to James and Selma.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Hello, James. Morning. It's got that year, they took out the wind wing. And in the summertime, a wind wing, I guess they're obsolete now, but boy, you engine and cools you down, you don't need an air conditioner. But I guess that's a thing of the past. And then I know with the electric vehicles, air conditioner, drink without wearing down the battery.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And then I'm also wondering how much does the air conditioner take in a normal car affect your fuel efficiency, running an air conditioner, or does it bother at all? Well, let's take each of the questions. First, with regard to your wing vents, you know, if the doors on your truck are the same doors, they didn't change that design. You could always get doors from another car or even just adapt the wing vent windows if you wanted to. That might be something that you could upgrade, so to speak, your truck, too, if you wanted to. Yeah, of course, the air conditioning draws power in an electric vehicle. Absolutely. Everything in an electric car that's powered is electrically powered.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Some of the latest ones use a heat pump type system that's similar to what you have in your house. And naturally, it draws power. The catch is, of course, that that's also the power that operates or propels the vehicle. So when you're using electrically powered hydropower power accessories like AC, that's going to negatively affect your range. as far as AC and gas engine vehicles. Today, it's not that big a deal. Compressors are so much more efficient than they were. It's a negligible difference.
Starting point is 00:47:45 But you might remember, I'm sure Bill and I do back in the day. Like my Trans Am has this gigantic, huge Harrison AC compressor. And even though I've got a humongous 455 cubic inch V8 under the hood with lots of power, you turn that compressor on and you can feel the engine load. It goes, whoa. Oh, yeah. But on the other hand, you could also hang meat inside the Transam, right? Yes, but you know, that penalty.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I mean, running the AC did noticeably reduce the gas mileage. I have not noticed any appreciable difference, you know, just, you know, off the cuff. I would test drive new cars all the time in modern vehicles with modern high-efficiency compressors. All right. Appreciate the call there. Thank you, James. And you have another one, line four. Hello, line four.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You're on with Eric Peters. Yes, good morning, gentlemen. It's Francine. Hi, Francine. Hi. I kind of just want to make a comment here. I understand what you're referring to when you're saying there's just no way out of all of this. However, technically there is, unfortunately, I don't think people will ever make that happen,
Starting point is 00:48:48 which that involves just not buying these cars and keep buying and recycling older cars. And if enough people did it and they weren't selling like what happened with the Ford Lightning, If that kind of thing keeps happening, maybe they'd stop. But, you know, I don't know. What do you think? I agree completely. And I believe that there is going to be, there is a tremendous business opportunity in its infancy right now for people who have the ability to do this, to take older
Starting point is 00:49:18 vehicles that are structurally sound, you know, that don't have a lot of rust, and repair them to, you know, bring them back to mechanically sound condition so that people who would like to have a mechanically sound car that's modern in every way, if you don't have. injected and all of that, but without all this stuff that they're force-feeding us, would love to buy a vehicle like that. I think that this is a huge potential business opportunity. Yeah, good. I'm glad to hear that. I hope somebody takes it up because I don't, I will not own a car that, you know, I will not own a rolling computer. All right. Appreciate the call there, Francie. You know, speaking of what you were, we started this off with a talk of a number of computers
Starting point is 00:49:57 in a car. And now my PT cruiser the last year that we had it made here, Eric, it has one. It has one computer, just the main one, controls the ignition and the airbag. And I guess what else, well, anti-log brakes, I guess what also, it's all controlled by that. And also, what else is it controlled? But it doesn't have the telematics. It's not sitting there spying on me from what I understand. Transmission. To get a handle on how unnecessary a lot of the stuff is, if I wanted to, don't want to, but if I wanted to, I could buy a standalone, broad-body, electronic fuel injection system for my Trans Am, a 50-year-old car, and replace the mechanical fuel delivery system, the carburetor with a throttle-body fuel injection system and a standalone computer that would run the fuel
Starting point is 00:50:43 injection system. And believe me, the car would operate in every way, just about the same as any brand-new vehicle. All right. We're continuing to take the calls here. Eric Peters, EP Autos. Hello, on? You're wrong with Eric. Hey, Eric. Hey, Bill's Matt. Oh, Matt, good to have you on. I promise this isn't a trick question. I'm not trying to test your knowledge, but I can't get a straight answer on this. In my 82 GMC, I've got a smallback 350.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's not modified in any way. Stock manifold. How many RPMs can you run on that thing? Like, what's ideal if you were going on a long trip? Well, ideal in what sense? Like in terms of mileage or where and tear? No, no, no, no. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I should have been more specific. I'm driving down the highway, and I'm doing 65 miles an hour. What kind of RPMs is that motor comfortable running on for 10 hours or eight hours? Well, generally speaking, if it were me, I'd want it to be turning somewhere between 22 and 27. You know, that's in the zone where it's not working too hard. It's not making too much noise, and it's not guzzling gas too much. And really, it all comes down to what the final drive ratio is, you know, which you're, we're accessing. ratio is in my Trans Am before I converted it to a four speed manual, I had a four speed
Starting point is 00:52:02 automatic with a .67 overdrive. And even with the 390 gears that I have in the car in the rear axle, I could cruise along all day at 6570 to just over 2,000 RPM in that car. Now with the four speed manual and no overdrive, it's spinning 2,500 RPMs at about 55. You know, it's significantly more RPM at lower road speed. Do you know what your RPMs are right now at highway speed, Matt? Well, I don't, and as Eric might know, that a lot of those cars, even though mine was like a higher-end model, did not come. They put a giant fuel gauge in there instead of a tachometer.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So I actually was going to go down to O'Reilly and pick up a tack today and go ahead and install it just so I can get an idea. I'm not sure what it runs. I used to just drive the car around, but I was thinking, hey, you know what? It might be fun to take it, you know, for Longer Drive because it runs great. The motors only got 60,000 miles on it. It doesn't leak oil. You know, it was a brand new crate motor on what I bought.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Interesting. You know, your car, it's like yours was built during that transitional era when a lot of new cars still had three speed automatics without overdrive. And GM began to start going to the four speed automatic a little bit later in the 80s. You may have an overdrive automatic, but based on everything you said, I'm assuming you feel like the engine is spinning a little bit fast. you probably have a three-speed automatic and you probably have a fairly steep final drive ratio, something like a 323 maybe, because trucks tended to have that for the torque coming off the line. And it might be worth looking into, if that's the case, to putting in a more modern automatic direct bolt-in for those vehicles that has that overdrive gear to cut the RPMs on the highway. You're making all the right assumptions here.
Starting point is 00:53:48 It originally came with a 700 R4-4 speed. It was my wife's truck before I met her. and her dad had the mechanic put in a turbo 350, so that's what it's got in there. And I don't really drive it much faster than, you know, 65. And it seems to run fine, but I thought, you know, maybe I should throw a tack on here just to get a better sense of, you know, where it is running at freeway speeds. Yeah, I bet it's running a lot faster than probably, you know, it would have with the factory 700 transmission and the overdrive. And you might be happy just going back to what it came with or, you know, there's a number of available transmissions that will bowl. right up to that 350. You don't have to do any, you know, elaborate modifications to put it in there and make it work.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Oh, you're, okay, I've got a pencil. What other transmission besides the 700R4 bolts right up to that, that small block 350? I am pretty sure that the 204R will bolt up or you can use an adapter to get that to go in there. That's the transmission I used in my, in my Trans Am, which did have a Pontiac engine, but it's got the universal pattern. so it can be made to fit. And then there's the, I forgot what the designation of it is. It's the modern version of the turbo 400 with the overdrive that they began to put into production sometime in the 90s. And Bill, do you remember the nomenclature? It's like the 4L60E or something like that.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Yeah, I'm not as familiar with the transmission types as I'm with the engines themselves. But, yeah, I'd have to look that up, I'd have to look that up, Eric, off air. The good news is there's lots of compatibility here. your truck is very modular. There are a number of options that you've got. It's just, you know, a little bit of research will tell you what we'll bolt in. If it were me, you know, I'd want one that has one 12-volt hookup for the lockup torque converter. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I wouldn't want to have any more elaborate electronics than that. All right, very good. Hey, I appreciate your call, Matt. Always a good hearing from you, 770K, MED. Let's see if we can grab another call or two before Eric and I turn into a pumpkin in this segment, at least. Hi, who's this? Morning. Hello.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yeah, hi. Yes, it's you. Hi. I'm calling about an 05 Subaru that a couple years ago I went in for emissions test and it would not pass because like the computer that you plug into. It would bring up the register, the VIN number and it brought up everything except one number. and this is the first time it's ever happened. I've had like 15 years, and the guy said, sorry, I can't pass. I can't run it through the test. And so I said, okay, went over to Subaru and the long and short of it.
Starting point is 00:56:35 And I think I called you guys about this a while ago, and they said, you know, you need to replace that, you know, a little computer. Yeah, you replace the module. Yeah. two or three grand. They wanted two or three grand, really? Yeah. Wow. That's egregious, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:55 A car, it makes you question it. And then I just took it in, just the other day, it had a problem, something with the accelerator, where I've never heard of this, where these two electronic points don't jive. And so my daughter, she said you'd push on the gas and it just would kind of wouldn't work right. and I don't know what that anyway. The point of my question is whether or not that motherboard, whatever it is, if that has the potential to, I mean, to basically ruin, should I be selling the car quickly is what I'm really sure?
Starting point is 00:57:35 You might want to consider it. You know, if the cost, if it's not economically feasible, or realistic for you to replace that computer, you might be able to find a decent one from a salvager somewhere that could work. But, I mean, I, you know, you're in a tough. position. Who wants to put a large sum of money into a car that's not worth a lot of money. Now, I want to get one thought out, though. I think it's pretty obnoxious that the Subaru dealership can't look at your car and say, hey, okay, we know that the VIN is correct. You know,
Starting point is 00:58:00 this vehicle did pass. The emissions, in other words, it's actual emissions and all of that are clean. This is just a pedantic thing that the computer doesn't recognize the one, two, three, or the ABC and the VIN, but we can confirm it. Now, we can confirm that this is legitimately your car. and they have the, you know, most dealerships have the ability to perform the state emissions and the safety inspection. They ought to handle that without trying to hit you. Well, now, for a year it was basically on blocks. So now I can drive it legally, but I couldn't drive it last year because it wasn't 20 years old. Yeah, see, now you don't have to worry about the smog.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Now, I was just looking up online that there are, I'm looking at engine control models. Even from Subaru, the OEM part is $738. That's from Subaru itself. You can find them in the wrecking yards here. I'm looking at a 2005 Subaru Legacy Engine Control Model module on eBay, 125. And there are also companies out there that will rebuild these. And most of these are not that difficult to swap in and out. Isn't that the case, Eric?
Starting point is 00:59:09 Most of the time, I'm not exactly sure. A lot of times they're up underneath the kick panel. And if you're a little bit mechanically adventurous and have some tools, you can probably do this yourself. And if you can't, find yourself an honest independent mechanic who will absolutely be able to do it for you for a whole lot less than what the Subaru stores wanting. Yeah, and best of luck to you on that. We feel your pain on these things. And we'll take one more call, and then we're going to have to take off until next week here. Hello, you're on with Eric Peters.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Good morning. Who's this? This is Bob. Hi, Bob. In regards to economy, it's been a while, but I rented a U-Haul box truck. And it had the Econo gauge on it, which was basically just a vacuum gauge that showed efficiency. You know, when you're going uphill, of course, the drops, you're not as efficient. And on the flats, it goes back up into the green.
Starting point is 00:59:56 So I'm just stating the simplicity and efficiency of a vacuum gauge to give you an indication of how economically you're driving your motor. Yeah, sure, absolutely. You know, it's a way to sort of correlate the input of your right foot with, you know, how quickly the gas gauge needle is going to be going down. darn straight. Good job. And thank you so much, Bob. Eric, what is your review for the week that people need to check out on EP Autos. Did we talk about the Jetta?
Starting point is 01:00:26 You know, I remember you were on vacation, I think, during the week that I had the VW Jetta. Yeah, we did talk about that last week. We did mention that. Yeah. You have a new one coming? Okay. Yeah, well, it's the GMC terrain, you know, which is a vehicle that not many. people are familiar with because it's one of a gazillion crossovers out there, right?
Starting point is 01:00:44 And it's interesting because it's essentially the same thing as a Chevy Equinox, but it's rebranded and sold under the GMC nameplate for a little bit more money, but it's substantially nicer. You know, if you're familiar with the GM brand structure and hierarchy, you know, Chevy's sort of at the bottom there and you move up to the GMC. It's kind of like when you buy Tahoe, Tahoe is a fine rig, but, you know, if you move up into, say, a Yukon, it's a little bit nicer. So, you know, that's essentially what you're getting here. The only detraction from this vehicle is that, unfortunately, it comes only with a little 1.5-liter engine paired with a CVT.
Starting point is 01:01:18 And it's a comparatively heavy little thing. You know, even though it's a compact crossover, it weighs about 3,400 pounds empty. So, you know, with two people in it, you're pushing two tons. And it's a lot to ask of a 1.5-liter engine to, you know, to move two tons of vehicle down the road with any kind of ease. All right. Well, that'll be coming up on the site here pretty soon then. Yes. All right. Read up on it. And thanks so much. A lot of good calls this morning, a lot of good questions.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And we love that part about it. Let's do it again next Wednesday. Okay. Thank you. Sounds great, Bill. Thank you. Eric Peters once again, E.P.O.O.com on KMED and KMEDHD.E.HD. Eagle Point, Medford, KVXG, grants pass.

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