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Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Emails and a talk with the National Right To Work folks...union SEIU head seen at the riots and arrested. D62 quiz, open phones, Open for Business with Cheriesse at No Wires Nows, and more of your calls.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. This is Newstalk 1063 KMED and you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Three minutes after eight, I had a couple of emails coming in on some conversations we were having this morning and one of them from a DG racer saying really Bill greetings Bill I cannot let me see if I get that I just lost the email sorry Bill I cannot believe you actually described the upcoming military parade as Trump's birthday parade it's not

Trump's birthday parade this parade has been years in the making it is to celebrate the Army's 250th birthday well Well, the planning was started on this one. No one knew Trump would be president the year of the parade. Okay, fair enough. Eric Peters needs to cool his jets on the big truck only doing 46 in a 55 zone. Calm down, Eric. Take a blood pressure pill. Not if not all. Most if not all states have a minimum and a maximum speed limit. I know one state back east that has in some areas a minimum of 45 max speed. Just because it says 55, you don't have to go 55. Go below 45, you get a ticket.

Go above 45, you get a ticket. Randy, okay, I'm going to give you the clover of the day, all right? You get the clover. Randy, I know you'll be angry. I'm just teasing with you, but no, I'm sorry. I don't like... The thing is, you want to go below 55 and the conditions are fine, and you don't want to go 55, you want to pull over... Just let people pass. There's just so much of this passive aggression that I still see on the road right now

And I get it, you know, hey, I sometimes poke if I'm in the van again I'm certainly poking but I move over and make it easy for people to get around me. I think that's what Eric gets irritated about because a lot of what he's talking about is on some single lane roads and Limited ability to pass in many cases and some of those curvy Those curvy roads and we kind of have that too. Man I got to tell you there's nothing worse than being on highway 238 and being behind it's the the guy in the truck with the battleship hat kind of syndrome. I think it's safe to go 40 in a 55 and you can't get around me and then you get the conga line as Eric talks about behind you. 399 Divorce writes me this morning talking about John O'Connor who I had on says, that man is really good in

analyzing and discussing federal law in the application of law. You should have him on regularly. Yes I do 399, I do. I would save his quotes on how he detailed the judge's position continuing on this this email, by the way, and how Trump is using the federal forces justly, reasonably, and within the framework of the plain language of the law. I appreciate that coming from another law person who understands that stuff, which I just read a lot of it, and my eyes glaze over, but I don't understand it like you all do. Okay. Let me grab a quick call here.

Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hello? Hello, this is Tim. Hey, Jim, how are you? I'm doing well. I wondered if I could give a plug

for Experimental Aircraft Explosive, excuse me. Sure. 725 and Grant's Pass. What are you doing? We're having a Young Eagles event this Saturday Excuse me. Sure. 725 and Grants Pass. What are you doing? We're having a Young Eagles event this Saturday from 8 o'clock to 11 o'clock at Grants Pass Airport and that's where young people from the ages of 8 to 17 get a free ride, a 20 to 30 minute ride in an airplane from one of our chapter members.

Boy, that sounds like a lot of fun. That sounds like a lot of fun. Wow. And each participant will get a logbook and a certificate. It goes from 8 o'clock to 11 o'clock on Saturday, this Saturday, at Grants Pass Airport. That's the exit path, the regular Grants Pass, it's actually the Merlin exit and there's signs for the airport. It's very close there. It's a great time. Yeah and when is it running again on Saturday 8 a.m. to how long? 11 a.m. but if we have more passengers then pilots will keep flying. Alright, and it's free? It is free for children 8 to 11.

Very good. Or 8 to 17, excuse me. So I really appreciate the update. That sounds like great fun. It really does. Well thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. For people who want to look online, it's EAA725, if you type that into the browser, and EAA is the Experimental Aircraft Association. All right, very good. Thanks for the update. That would be fun for Father's Day weekend, no doubt, right? It would. All right, Bye-bye.

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Netsuite.com slash Kim. Here KMED in Krantz Pass on 1059 K290 AF Rogue River in South Jackson County on 1067 K294 AS Ashland. Sixty minutes after eight, join me right now. We have Patrick Simmons who's the Vice President of the National Right to Work. We appreciate you being on this morning. What does National Right to Work mean once again, Patrick? What's the main mission there? I mean, we have a right to work, but what does right to work mean? It's actually a legal term, isn't it really? Yeah, right to work is a very simple, very popular principle, which is the idea that

union affiliation, the union membership and financial support should be voluntary. Workers can choose to join a union and pay unit they want but they cannot be forced and unfortunately in uh... dates without right to work laws uh... a worker can be fired solely for not paying money to the union doesn't matter if they don't want the union they never asked for the union they were voted for it they can be fired uh... and we believe that's wrong

polls consistently show eighty percent of americans agree that that's wrong uh... but unfortunately uh... there are twenty four states out there Polls consistently show 80% of Americans agree that that's wrong. But unfortunately There are 24 states out there that have forced union dues Alright now Patrick have you been kept apprised of what the unions have been trying to do in Oregon state government with is which is getting the Unemployment insurance for striking union workers So in other words, they want to argue with the taxpayers and go on strike and then have unemployment. Have you been apprised of that or kept up on that story? Yeah, well we've been seeing

that in a few states. You can probably pick some of the or guess some of the other ones. California, New York, other states where you've got outsized influence of special interest union bosses at the state capital. And yeah, it really it's a pretty outrageous power grab. I mean, the whole idea of a strike is you have a job, you're choosing not to go to it. Now that can be your legal right to do so. Oh yeah. But then turning around and saying to the taxpayers, oh and you have to subsidize me not going to the job that I have. That's outrageous. I mean, unions, part of the dues that are charged to people are for a strike

fund. And so, you know, if people pay into that, they're supposed to be getting a little bit back from the union if they go on strike for an extended period, which union bosses often do. So the idea that, I mean, this is literally a direct subsidy to the union. So they don't have to pay that strike pay money and instead they can just have taxpayers subsidize that. Well, you can use it to buy more politicians. See, that's what happens in Oregon.

The unions are very effective at electing mostly Democrats in the state legislature. Now that bill that I was just telling you about had a vote yesterday and it actually failed. It passed out a committee and then they were going to pass it on the Senate floor. And we had some Democrats actually flip on it because they were concerned that it was going to hurt government especially. And it would be true though. You think about this.

Here it is you have government services with unionized workers and then they go on strike fighting the government and getting paid from the unemployment fund so I guess they're going to rework it so I just wanted to make sure you knew about it. I didn't know if you had heard it just happened yesterday. Yeah I hadn't heard that last development I guess it's good although if they're just gonna to fix it and make it only apply to private sector workers or something, that's hardly a good conclusion. Well, the way I'm looking at it is if you're going to argue with your boss, you should not be asking the taxpayers to subsidize your ability to go fight with your boss. That's just the way I kind of tend to look at things. You want to do it, you do it on your own dime. Now, interesting, now SEIU, of course, would be

very much in favor of this unemployment plan, of course, but what I found interesting about all this conversation about what's been going on down in Los Angeles, the Los Angeles riots, that a lot of what seemed to kick some of this off was with the SEIU California President David Huerta, who was arrested in one of those raids. Can you explain what happened? Because I haven't heard a lot about that and maybe don't understand everything that's in play here right now. Sure.

Well, you know, people probably have been following. The Trump administration obviously ran on enforcing immigration laws and that includes in California and in Los Angeles and they started doing that and you know what has been I think misconstrued as some sort of you know protest or something really what we're seeing is a union funded and backed attempt to stifle the enforcement of federal immigration laws. Now does SEIU look at illegal immigration as a big source of potential members? Is that or maybe they already

are members of SEIU? I don't know. Yeah I think they definitely are. I mean there's a you know many decades ago labor unions tended to be in favor of enforcing these laws. Now we're seeing them, we've seen over time, they see it as a way to recruit members. They basically can say, hey, we can protect you from immigration laws, and so you've got to turn to us and pay dues know, pay dues to us. And California obviously doesn't have a right to work law. That means people are forced to fund David Huerta's salary. They're going to be forced to fund probably the lawyers that are are going to contest his arrest and potential

prosecution. So it's, this is another example of the coercive power that unions have. They force workers to fund their agenda and then they use it to enact political and often very radical, sometimes blatantly illegal, political protests and other activities. And I think that's what's happening here. Okay, so that's why there's such an interest then in the ICE rates. I know that even here in Southern Oregon, SEIU was handing out the t-shirts and they were holding up the signs, Free David Huerta, but was he arrested for actually being violent? Do you know? I mean, what was the actual charge? I don't know if you got that much into the story or not.

if you got that much into the story or not. Yeah, I mean, he was definitely directly impeding the ability and physically obstructing ICE agents as they were, I think, just conducting enforcement action. So yeah, I mean, this is the federal law, federal agents are going to enforce it, which is how it works. And he decided to physically obstruct them. You obviously, anyone would be probably be arrested for that. And, but

of course, because it's a union, politically connected union boss, you've got you've got forced dues paying for his, his lawyers pay paying for t shirts, paying for protest lawyers, paying for t-shirts, paying for protest signs, basically funding all this. All right. It shows this is not a grassroots type of thing. Yeah, more astroturf there from the left. Exactly. Now, I have no problem with people volunteering to join a union. I understand how there is a, in some cases, people would perceive a need for something

like this. I don't know if national right to work gets involved in a any higher philosophy with this and one thing which has concerned me Patrick is that when you look at at share of income from from people who work for wages versus let's say capital and and the companies companies, that sort of thing. There's been a real shift in power towards capital and corporate power for a long, long time. And I think unions have been looked at as sort of a balancing force. Is there any way that we can maybe balance that share of the national income, so to speak, a little bit?

Of course, I don't want to sound like a Marxist. I'm not. But what has driven union power and pushing for power in many cases has been a real issue with some people in the working world. Yeah, I mean that certainly that's a narrative we hear a lot from union officials. Yeah, I know. I get that. And our view is right to work. Right to work is the perfect balance here because, you know, look, there are some bad employers who probably are trying to take advantage of workers. And in those situations, workers will voluntarily join the union, and they'll voluntarily pay union

dues because they'll see value in it. And there's nothing wrong with that from our perspective. The issue is when you've got the government putting a heavy hand on the scale. And you join it or else, in other words, right? You join it in order to get the job. Now, Oregon is not a right-to-work state, correct? Correct. All right. So we do this right now. My issue with unions is how the unions have become essentially political powerhouses and tend to run the Oregon government. And to me that is just absolutely corrupt at its core. Yeah, I mean I think that's a big problem. That's a problem that the National Rights to Work Legal Defense Foundation assists workers when

unions are violating their rights, and that's one of the complaints they hear a lot. The attorneys there hear a lot from the workers they're assisting, is that I'm being forced to basically to fund this giant special interest political organization that purports to do a little bit of so-called representation on the side, but their focus isn't what's happening on the workplace floor, it's what's happening at the state house floor. And that's, you know, where union bosses increasingly get their power from. They don't get it from voluntary, bottom-up, workers wanting to be part of some sort of collective action. They get it by going to the state legislature, getting elected officials, many of whose elections they have funded, and getting them to grant them more power over workers.

Is that what the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation is working to fight? I mean, so you'll actually deal with workers who are upset with their union and kind of go to bat. How does that work? Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously unions, forced dues funded, have a lot of lawyers and employers. You know, small businesses, it can be tough, but generally they kind of understand legal costs is part of doing business. But for an individual employee, they really don't have any place to turn. And so the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation is a nonprofit charitable organization

that gives free legal aid to employees, only employees. And we've got a team of 18 attorneys. They handle over 200 cases every year. They've had a dozen victories at the US Supreme Court. But a lot of those cases are much smaller, not to the individual involved, but in terms of the national legal impact. But we have a lot of cases where decertification is trying to enforce their right to decertify a union.

So a union is in power at their workplace. And they say, hey, a majority of the workers here don't actually want this union. Let's have a vote to get it out. Is that a growing trend, the decertifying of unions? Is that a growing trend? Yeah, we've seen four consecutive years of increased decertifications,

if you look at the National Labor Relations Board stats. So that's even under the Biden administration that made it really, really difficult to actually hold those elections. But the demand for them is going up. That must be why, though, the public employee unions are fighting so hard for the political control of their states for that reason, because this is almost like the last bastion. This is the final citadel, I guess, of union representation. Is that it? Yeah, I think that's right. I think if you look at polls of non-union workers, they overwhelmingly have no interest in

joining the union. And so rather than kind of change their product to try to attract more voluntary support, Union officials are turning to, you know, lawmakers to try and kind of rig the rules in their favor as a way of keeping the people who are already unionized unionized and then finding others who they can who can be put into union ranks and then forced to pay union dues or else be fired. Yeah, maybe I'd join the union if you weren't just a communist front group in Oregon, in other words, right? You're kind of taking it that point of view.

You know, it's interesting. I was talking with a nurse here at a Southern Oregon hospital system, and we had a big strike here a few months ago in the Providence system. And there was a nurse who confided with me that they are working to decertify the Oregon Nurses Association here and that supposedly are in operation with your group right now to try to do that. I thought it was quite interesting because some union members down here are upset that the Southern Oregon Oregon Nurses Association members were kind of thrown under the bus

in that last strike because the strike scheduling was done more or less to favor the bigger city union members. I don't know if you've heard anything about that or not but I I'm kind of in three. I don't know about that individual situation but I don't we've seen a real increase in health care workers and nurses especially when it comes to these cases all across the country and so it it's not a surprise it's happening there as well. I think a lot of there's been obviously, especially after COVID, there were a lot of changes and a lot of, and people realize,

hey, this union claims are there for me. And I've seen that they're really not, they're more focused on what's happening at state capitals than what's happening in the hospital. And that's been a big reason why we have seen nurses everywhere trying to exercise the right to vote out in common unions. National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, by the way, the website for that is nrtw.org. And what about the National Right to Work Committee? Where do you go to find out more about this, Patrick?

Yeah, the National Right to Work Committee is nrtwc.org. And you can learn all about the National Right to Work Act, you can learn about state right to work laws, and you can get involved in lobbying to try and make American workplaces more free so that workers can decide for themselves if they want to join or pay dues to a union instead of being forced. So, works for me, no pun intended. Okay. RTWC.org. Okay.

Works for me, no pun intended. All right, Patrick. Hey, appreciate the talk and thanks for stepping in this morning. Okay? Take care. Glad to do it. Thanks, Bill. 831 at KMED, 993 KBXG now

coming up here in just a moment Diner 62 real American quiz Diner 62 is a lot of fun we go over there and we had those diner 62 burgers we have those amazing omelets though which I always talk about the cinnamon rolls the size of your head the biscuits and gravies the salads salads, the avocado in the salads, and just the wonderful stuff. Come here and just answer a multiple question, a multiple choice question rather, and you get in. 770-563-3770 KMED. If you haven't won this in the last 60 days, give it a try next, okay? It's heating up outside. Hi, this is Lisa from Kelly's Automotive Service in Grants, PA. The Joe Pag Show, evening 6 to 8 on KMED. Diner 62, real American quiz. We'll get to that in just a minute. Betty writes me in a panic saying Bill,

because I was talking about the, we had a caller from the free experimental aircraft demonstrations and rides going on Saturday in Joe County says, Bill Pottsville this coming weekend. You haven't talked about it. You haven't said anything about it this coming weekend. Have they canceled it? No, I'm going there, Betty. I've been going in so many directions of late. Are you talking about it and going? I always go to Pottsville every Father's Day weekend. So it's kind of like the salmon returning to spawn. That's what I do. I go to spawn and watch, you know, the hit and miss engines and the tractors and everything else. I love that kind of stuff.

So that's going on too. Don't worry. All right. Now then diner 62 real American quiz. Let me get to Mary. Hello, Mary, how you doing? Pretty good. How are you?

I'm doing great. Mary today in history was June 11th of 1776, Congress appoints a committee of five. Uh-oh, when we talk about committees in Oregon, it's usually where good ideas go to die. But in this particular case, the Continental Congress selected five men to draft the Declaration of Independence. It included Thomas Jefferson of Virginia, John Adams of Massachusetts, Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, we know Ben, and Roger Sherman of Connecticut. Now, knowing Jefferson's prowess with his pan-mary,

Adams urged him to write the first draft of the Declaration of Independence. It was then carefully revised by Adams and Franklin before being given to Congress for review on June 28th. They would come to be known as the Committee of Five. The question for the win, Mary, and the $20 gift certificate from Diner 62, who was the fifth member of this Committee of Five? Was it A. Robert Livingston, B. John Jay, C. Jay C Robert Morris D John Hancock and E Thomas Penn and let me know Mary because don't feel badly if you miss it because I had no idea I had to guess that I guessed wrong What do you think?

I'm gonna say number three. You gotta say number three Robert Morris. No, I'm sorry wasn't it? All right, so you guessed wrong too. We're all kind of guessing. Maybe someone's gonna know it off the top of their head. I don't know. Let's go to Robo. Hey Robo, what do you say? Hey, hey, what's up? Yeah, not too much. We're just doing the quiz here. Robert Livingston, John Jay, John Hancock, or Thomas Penn. Who was that fifth member?

I'm gonna go with Hancock or Thomas Penn who was that fifth member? I'm gonna go with Hancock. You're gonna go with John Hancock, big wheel, big signature. No, not this time Robo, I was pulling for you. So we're gonna scratch that out. So let me scratch it out. Hancock and Morris and let's go to Chuck. Hello Chuck, how you doing? Fine thanks. All right Robert Livingston, John Jay, or Thomas Penn. Who was that fifth member? Thomas Penn. Thomas Penn. No, it wasn't his either. Boy, we're getting down to the end here. Kevin's here. Hello, Kevin. Hey, how you doing, bro?

Doing great. Robert Livingston or John Jay, who was that fifth member? Let's go with Livingston. Livingston, good day. You're a winner! Yeah, you got it. Livingston's signature not on the Declaration of Independence because he was recalled by New York before the sighting, but he later became a big wheel in persuading New York to ratify the Constitution, served as the first Chancellor of New York, played a role in negotiating the Louisiana Purchase. Pretty big deal there. And the original Declaration of Independence was handwritten

by Timothy Matlack, an assistant to the Secretary of the Second Continental Congress, according to the National Archives. Matlack known for his exceptional penmanship. And let me tell you, Kevin, you wouldn't want me writing the Declaration of Independence and making it legible. What about you? You have good handwriting? No. Not at all. No. Me neither. Never have been. I can't draw, and I can't draw a decent signature either. But Kevin, we're going to send you to diner 62. Hang on. We'll get you all set up. A lot of fun. And we'll have another one of those either tomorrow or Friday.

We're here with Susan, a Clouser drilling customer. Free day for lunch and dinner. It's the Bill Meyers show on KMED, Southern Oregon's place to talk. I'll tell you that smoked prime rib at Freddy's. That's money, man. It's 843. Lauren's here also at Eagle Point. How are you doing this morning

Lauren? There was a meeting with the City Council last night and what was that about you were going to report on? Well yeah first off I want to report I just finished my two and a half mile walk around my beautiful city of Eagle Point. Congratulations. It was good but yeah last night the City Council of Eagle Point approved a, can't see if we're not looking at the right papers this year, a $10 a month service fee for our police department. So 120 bucks for everybody that lives in the city to go to the cops, right? That's right.

And so it's the first one we've ever had, to my knowledge. We are the lowest, well next to lowest tax rate for all of Jackson County. The only one lower than us is Shady Cove and so I guess we're about half, almost half of what it is in Central Point. So yeah but I think your school taxes, yeah your actual city tax might be relatively low but I'll tell you, yeah boy the school taxes in Jackson County sometimes boil put you in the poorhouse with some of those districts I thought it was pretty high I'm on the school the budget committee too so and the city budget committee but anyway it was I I actually

spoke in favor of the motion partly because I wanted a chance to ask them maybe ought to reduce it down to five5 a month and see what we're going to really need and gave my reasoning. But we are short of police officers out here and we have a new police chief who is astounding, wonderful. He really does the job. And so I'm backing him 100%. But at the same time, we had two or three others that spoke against it and that's our privilege in our free America.

But yeah, we're going to show the rest, I think starting in July probably, we'll have a $10 month added on to our water bill. Yeah, and so it begins. It happens a lot in Medford and Jacksonville. Everybody gets hosed. But thanks for the update though, Lauren. Appreciate that. 7705633, Chris is here. Hello Chris, how are you this morning?

Oh fine, a beautiful day in Flits Creek. Great. Now you had to actually beg Governor Newsom, not for clemency, but for something. I mean what's going on here? This is interesting. I want to hear it. The clemency goes to the county of San Luis Obispo, California. But so I put in a two page pardon because they don't expunge in California for disturbing the peace. Oh, so you were busted for disturbing the peace a while ago, right? Yeah. 35 years ago in a college town.

So it's causing you problems on your criminal record today? Is that what's going on? Well, it doesn't cause problems for an organ, but it can cause problems. It may cause problems for getting suppressors. Oh, okay. So they call it a comparable charge in another state. It's not in Oregon, but like in Washington state boy. What a drag to have to beg, you know Newsom to You know, I don't want to bootlick someone I don't respect, you know, but that's what you got to do That's the best you got. Yeah, I can see your tongue out ready to lick right now. But what do you do or what happened? Well, is they I, I figured that Biden auto-pinned 1400 pardons that he would probably auto-pin mine and just get down to it and get it

done with. I would think that the time is right for old scumbags, new scums. So run it by him right now when he's busy with all the rioting, right? Yeah, because I hold him in high anathema and he's no one that does the right thing. I mean, even if you're not a Christian, everything in the Bible, don't kill, don't steal, don't do these things. The guy doesn't do anything right. All right. Well, what you got to do though is maybe you could send him a little gift, say, hey, Gavin, send him a really nice, luxurious hair gel.

He uses that stuff all the time. Okay? And I'll tell you what, you tell me what happens here, and I wish you best of luck in getting that since they don't expunge it. Maybe you can get them to pardon you, but don't call them a scumbag when you're writing this in. Just suggesting. All right, good.

Do not call the governor a scumbag when you're asking for a favor. Matt's here. Hello, Matt. Morning. Hey, Bill. Okay, so jobs Americans won't do. I always laugh whenever Geraldo Rivera... Hey, could you back off your phone a little bit there, buddy, so you try not to distort? Hey Bill, okay so jobs Americans won't do. I always laugh whenever Geraldo Rivera...

Yeah hey could you back off your phone a little bit there buddy? I want to so you try not to distort okay? You know your phone, you still need to buy a phone. You do okay? Hey I actually started looking yesterday believe it or not. Yay good. So Geraldo Rivera used to go on and on all the time about jobs Americans won't do and of course that's what the left does. Oh these are jobs. Even that funny one from last week where the woman came out and said, who's going to wipe our rear end? So I like irony, Bill. Here's the irony. We are super short workers in the trade. A lot of the jobs that apparently Americans won't do, that illegal aliens do, is they

go work in construction. That's right. Here's the irony. Those are going to be the only jobs left because all any of your listeners would have to do is type in, for instance, Google layoffs, Amazon layoffs, Microsoft layoffs, Meta layoffs. There are articles after article for all of these companies laying off people. The one that came up yesterday morning was from Google. And they're laying people off in their knowledge and information unit

that houses Google's Search Ads and Commerce Division. And they also have AI that is writing computer code. So learning the code is no protection any longer. You know, computers are writing computer code, essentially. This is the bottom line. These buyouts Google is offering, they're saying, hey, if you find, you know, you don't feel like you're meeting expectations, you're not excited about your work, you know, it'd be a good idea for you to take these way out.

But if you are excited and you're on board with the new game plan and direction we're going, then please, please don't take the plan, stay with us. So the jobs are not gonna be there. Even Kim Commando, who I really like, she does some great stuff. Her radio spots mention these kids over the last 10 years who have graduated with programming and computer science degrees and lots of college debt.

Forget about it. You're going to be unemployed. Yeah, forget about it. You know what's going to change this around here? And I don't want to sound sexist when I say this, all right? I'm not meaning it. One of the biggest challenges for getting men into the trades has been that women, especially liberal educated women, have not been a fan of getting together with guys who actually know how to do stuff in the trades.

Not that it's only just guys in the trades, but it's predominantly that way, even now, right? it's only just guys in the trades but it's predominantly that way even now right something tells me that getting the desire for a mate to change there it would be quite helpful what do you say I'll give you the final word are you saying that women don't want men who can build things with their hands well liberal white women as a rule have not they're looking for someone with they're looking for up they want someone who is just as indoctrinated as they are. And that's been a problem.

You hear them complain about the lack of marriageable, marryable men. Okay? I'm talking about the real world. In their unreal world, but still that is the, and that's driven a lot of what has happened why people have looked down their noses at the trades That's absolutely unfair and it's ridiculous because the person with the trade and the construction company is more likely doing better than the You know than the environmental scientist a graduate. Let's say okay So what I think I hear you saying is that less become awful

I've heard that term a fluent white women whatever it stands for but so what you're telling me is that less become offals. I've heard that term, affluent white women, whatever it stands for. But so what you're telling me is that men aren't anything more than an adornment on a liberal woman's hood for BMW. They would rather be married to an unemployed computer programmer than a rich plumber. Is that what I hear you saying?

Because if they tell their friends they're married to a plumber, their friends will look down their nose at them. Yeah, pretty much. That's how it's worked out there in the urban dating world. I'm just telling you the way it is. I'm not saying it's good, but the culture will be changing that,

I would imagine, over the near future. Matt, always appreciate your call. Good one. Thoughtful. Still get that phone. Speaking of phones, I'm going to talk with Cherise now, Open for Business over at Nowire. Cherise, how the heck are you doing? Welcome back. Good morning. Hey, I have a cousin and he's a plumber and he's a millionaire. I know. I know. People who can do things and who, these are things that can't necessarily be done by artificial intelligence, I know people who can do things and who, these are things that can't necessarily be done by artificial intelligence. Those kind of things, that's the future, man.

You got to be looking at that right now. My son just graduated from high school. He has no idea what he wants to do and he's really smart. He thinks he's going to do computer stuff. I go, first of all, you don't want to sit on your butt all day and be in front of a screen. I really want him to get into welding. We need welders and they make really good money.

So I'm trying to get them into that. Oh, that's good. Now over at NoWiresNow, by the way, this is a Sharice's business. I want to make sure that, get this in. Her number, you can call or text her at 541-680-5875. Now my friend Matt has a crappy cell phone, as you heard. He does.

I was gonna say, Matt, call me. I'll hook you up. I'll give you a free phone. OK, 541-680-5875. All right. What offers do you have going on there right now? Because you're saving money on television, on internet. And I ended up doing the two phones on spectrum wireless.

I love it. It has worked out so well. Both Linda and I are on it. $30 a month is all we're paying for the first year. I love it. It was great. Yeah, and it's Verizon. It works in, um, you know, Costco's. It works everywhere pretty much. It works at your work. It's got the best, you know, the most towers, the best connection and the cheapest price. No taxes, no hidden fees. You get one line free. Second line, third line, just 30 bucks a line, unlimited talk, text and

data. Yeah, and I got free phones too. I just got a bunch of new Android. So if you need a new phone, I can hook you up. All right, please send one to Matt right away. Okay? Yeah, I will. Matt, you know I love you, babe.

Okay. He has to come get it. Yeah. What other deals do you have going on right now? We want to make sure offers on Dish and all the others. We want to make sure just hit the high points if you don't mind and then we'll send people to you. Okay? Yeah, Suzy and her husband came in. They've been listeners on your show forever. He said he's heard me for years. He had the

spectrum cable TV bill $320 and he didn't even use the home phone. Ouch. I'm gonna cancel the whole thing. I'm going to get him the one gig internet for 70 bucks, the fastest, and then I'm going to get him the free cell phone service and then I'm getting him Dish. And he's getting three months of free cell phone or three months of free Dish TV service. So that's the promotion with Dish right now. It's awesome. All right. And now of course just get in touch with Charisse over at NoWiresNow, and there could be some restrictions and offer restrictions, that kind of thing. But just find out if it would work for you. Okay. Yeah. So I got their bill from $3.30 to $1.70.

That is astounding. That's just, wow. And then their phone bill with US Cellular was $2.20, and I got that to $60. So I'm saving them like $300 a month. Okay, well the thing is though people have to become your client, right, in order for you to do this. And plus you take back equipment, you take care of all the arguing. Even if you can't take one of those offers, you could actually negotiate their bill down and that's for a small fee, isn't that right? You know, I'm getting kind of picky with that. If you can be my customer and you're not going to do it, then I'm not going to do it.

So it's like, it just depends on the person's situation. But yeah, I'm here to help people. That's my biggest goal, to help people save money. And I'm a local. I've been in the same spot 15 years. So I'm legit. And I'm right there the same spot 15 years, so I'm legit and you know I'm right there off of Biddle Road. So come see me. I'm there 10 to 4 Monday through Friday. And that's on Biddle Road and it's next door to the cigar cave and there's a People's Bank right around the corner,

all that in that area. Very, very, very, very important. If you know that spectrum is coming up your road and you don't have it, don't call the 1-800 number just like with Dish, don't call 1-800 number, you've got to call me to get that extra treatment, get you know the free installations, get all that kind of good stuff, you're gonna get better service from me than any 1-800. And you do that by calling or texting 541-680-5875, 541-680-5875. Nowiresnow.com. Cherise, thanks for being on Open for Business. Be well.

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Real quick, dad's story. Yeah. A buddy of mine is in the country. He forgets his watch. He's getting gas. It's right near a dairy farm. He asks the gas station guy, what time is it? I don't know.

He walks over to a cow, gets underneath it, lifts up another, comes back, it's 2.30. Comes back the next day. Hey, I need to know what time it is. Hey, no problem. Walks over a different cow, lifts up the udder. Hey, it's four o'clock. Then it comes back and my buddy says, how the heck do you know what time it is? So when you walk up to the cows, you lift up the udder, I can see the clock tower across the street. I heard a variation on it, but I love it.

You told the clean one. There you go, brother. Thanks, buddy. Caller 5 and 6, we send you to the Medford Rogues. We'll give you a pair of admission tickets for that right now. Go play ball this weekend, okay? 770-5633.