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Episode Date: June 13, 2026

Jennifer Weber, a Manhattan Institute Fellow, responds to the results released this week from The Nation's Report Card on elementary school reading and mathematic performance, D62 quiz, open phones an...d more wrap the show.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klauserdrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. I wanted to veer off into a bit of education news here and see what's going on. I know that the school is out and school is out in many schools. I shouldn't say school is out for everyone, but there are many, many government schools are out. and people are staying in there longer.
Starting point is 00:00:33 You just never know. I just want to find out how things are looking as far as the nationwide report card, as it were. And here to help me out with that, Jennifer Weber, and she's a fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Jennifer, it's a pleasure having you on. Welcome. Thank you for having, Mike. Yeah. The nation's report card was released, and this has to do with elementary school reading and mathematics.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's just reading and arithmetic, right? You know, that kind of thing. we've gotten used to hearing bad news for a while. Is it still bad or improving or we're just kind of treading water? And you've taken a look at the report. What are you saying? It is still bad. The long-term trends assessment report that was released on Wednesday is showing that
Starting point is 00:01:19 students that were nine years old in reading did make a little bit of gains as well in math. 13-year-olds showed no gains. But the problem is that people are looking at it from just this post-COVID error. So the gains for 9-year-olds in reading and mass is representative of just COVID. But the bigger issue is that the peak really happened in 2012. And that's the question and the analysis that we really should be doing is looking at why have we seen such a decline since 2012 as a to just focusing on what's happened. Yeah, you're right, because everything has always been focused on COVID time, COVID time, bad. You know, schools closed. We're going to doing at-home learning, all the rest of it. And then there was none of that going on, no, our very little learning, I would guess. And then parents also discovered how politicized the government school classrooms were.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Wouldn't that be fair to say, too? Yes, very much so. Yeah, all right. So it's been more than a full K-12, a K-12 here, So, man, you think about that. An entire school generation, it paked a full generation ago, school generation ago. That's really what you're saying. That's kind of scary, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:02:38 It's very scary. And it really happens at a time when a waiver started to come in place for no child left behind. So no child left behind was not perfect. But what it did was it ensured accountability, especially for the kids that struggle the most. So when states started getting waivers under the Obama administration, that accountability disappeared. And people really stopped watching for those students that were economically disadvantaged and those students that were falling further and further behind. And essentially, I guess that people who are having trouble just got socially promoted, that kind of thing. You just got moved on to the next grade, moved on to the next grade, moved on to the next grade, moved on to the next grade.
Starting point is 00:03:23 and then you sue your government school after you graduate and then you don't know how to add or subtract. Exactly. Wow. So the reading, though, is the key. I was very fortunate here, Jennifer. I don't know what it was like for you, but I'm no doubt a few years older than you, but my mother taught me to read when I was three, maybe three and four. And so learned to read at a very young age, loved it, sounded it out with phonics.
Starting point is 00:03:50 That's what we did. You know, there was no science of reading at that time. It was kind of like whatever worked. And it helped me my entire life and still helps me today. And can you blame the reading deal on the focus on Whole Ward, which has been a lot of government school systems for a while over the last 20, 30 years or so? They're now starting to recover, but, you know, the kids are screwed over by that. You know, by that. How do you see it?
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah, I think it's a huge contributing factor. Everybody really jumped on the bandwagon across the nation for that Lucy Cawkins whole word. three-kewing kind of approach, but it didn't actually teach the kids how to read. I taught the kids more so how to guess. So I think that that is a contributing factor, and then you couple that with no sense of accountability for what the schools were doing for the students learning or not learning. It's the results that we're seeing today. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Is anything changing as far as you can tell from your view here at the Manhattan Institute? Institute? Well, I mean, what we do know right now is that there's obviously that strong push to bring education back to the states. But there's less conversation, I think, happening in what all of that will look like. So, you know, we are seeing a few states that are taking it into their own hands, that are focusing on bringing some accountability back. And those are the states that we're starting to see some progress. Which states are doing a better job because Oregon seems to be quite proud of being 47th or 48th in the nation as far as reading? I shouldn't say proud. They're upset about it too. But they have done very little about it so far. Which states are doing better jobs,
Starting point is 00:05:40 which ones are not? We know that Oregon is one of the not-so-goods. Yeah, we've seen Mississippi starting to really take the education side really seriously and they've added in a lot of accountability How so? Because you know what happens? The urban liberal elites in Oregon would just be sneering if you talk about Great Keynes in Mississippi. Mississippi? Those are southern people. Are they not? Ignoramas's down there. Well, they put in some regulations related to the science of reading. But I think the more important part of what they started to do is they started requiring that the schools had to answer. for the kids that were not learning. Really? So again, there you have the accountability part of it. Now, let me, now, what does accountability mean?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Because if you're a bad teacher, it would seem to me that maybe you should be fired. And does it rise to that level or not? Maybe I'm wrong about that. I don't know in that state if it's rising to that level, but you, of course, are correct that those bad teachers should be fired. But I think when you look at students' data, and it's very easy. to get students' data, you know very quickly if they're learning or not learning. And so those that aren't actually showing any progress, that's what they're making the schools
Starting point is 00:07:04 have to respond to. So essentially, there's consequences in place for when students are not actually learning. I think the first step they have to inform the families, then there's other types of measures being taken. And all of that, instead of all of that is critical. They also are retaining kids as well. So there's a lot of these different accountability measures that are in place. I haven't seen that in too many states, but as education starts to move going back to the states,
Starting point is 00:07:41 it's going to be so important for any progress to be made to be made for schools and for the states and schools to determine what accountability should be. look like. So we can guarantee that these kids are learning. Jennifer Weber is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and we're talking about the results released from the nation's report card. Just happened this week on elementary school and mathematics. And the basic takeaways that the scores for nine-year-olds, reading in math, went up a little bit, just a little bit, right? We had a little bit of a blip there. But the older students, we're not seeing anything happening, right? Nothing is getting better for them. No, they stayed exactly the same. And there was a lot of money, part of the COVID relief money, that was put into the schools, about $190 billion, I think. And so to not see any results in for the 13-year-olds is a huge problem.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah, one thing I don't see mentioned in this, and I don't know if the NAEP, you know, has looked at this or not. educational progress actually peaked in 2012. That's what you just mentioned. So the students were at their best performance in 2012, and in the last 14 years it's gone to Hack in a Hand Basket. Yes. Does anyone also consider the rise of the device screens? That is definitely conversations that are happening as well.
Starting point is 00:09:10 There are definitely some people, I know the president of, So AFT did put a lot of blame recently into the screens being the reason why students are learning are not learning, I mean, but that can't be the whole reason. Yeah, but you do realize that, you know, over the last 10 to 15 years or so, there's been a push that you can't learn with books and old-style stuff. You have to have a Chrome book or you have to have an iPad, you know, that kind of thing. and there was a big rise of that in the educational process. And school districts spent millions upon millions of dollars in getting the kids into electronic
Starting point is 00:09:54 classrooms, but yet it doesn't seem to have helped. And I just wonder if there's any evidence that it may have hurt. I mean, I think what we're seeing, too, is that there definitely should be evidence that it did hurt because there's been so many variations of educational technology. But that educational technology was really promoted by vendors. It was never evidence-based. It was never based on how children actually learned. Oh, I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:10:26 So it wasn't actually rising from the grassroots of we've done studies and kids learn better on this stuff. It's Bill Gates comes to you or the Google salesperson comes to you and says, hey, school system, buy these. Is that what happened? That is what happened. And so these vendors became very popular for the schools and influencing the schools to invest in this educational technology. But what it didn't do, it didn't account for actually like how children come to learn.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And so I think technology does have a role in education. So I don't want to say screens are fully to blame. I think the bigger issue is that the technology that's become. so popular was never based on how kids learn. That's interesting. Jennifer Weber once again from the Manhattan Institute talking about the nation's report card just out this week. What about the actual family structure? Is that discussed at all in any of your folks that dig into this? Because if parents enjoy reading and read a lot, many times the children will mimic that and behave much the same way. And I can't help but think that if we have a children,
Starting point is 00:11:45 American children, who are not reading so well and don't choose to read, that they could be the children of parents who don't read themselves. Any thoughts on that? That's definitely true. And in a survey that was done as part of the long-term trend assessments for NEP did show that over the years there's been a decrease in kids wanting to read for fun. I think there's definitely a combination. Kids are going to model what they see at home. So as you see more families on devices, you're going to, and less reading, that is what they're going to take away. And then I also think there's a problem that's discussed less is that after 2012, there was the transition to common core.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And a lot of the transition to common core, again, it wasn't created based on evidence on how children, learn, but it was created on these standards. And a lot of these standards ended up really encouraging more passage-based reading. So what you started to also see during this time is you started to see students really not reading books in school at all. They were reading short passages, learning to answer questions. So there are also some curriculum and standard issues as well that also discouraged the reading of box. Interesting. Jennifer Weber with me this morning from the Manhattan Institute.
Starting point is 00:13:13 We may have a question or comment on this particular deal. Hello, caller. You're on with Jennifer. Who's this? Good morning, Bill. Yeah, David, did you have a question or comment for this guest here about? I do. I do.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Please. Go ahead. Thank you for being there. Thanks, Jennifer. How do you feel besides just the parents? I mean, just the schools, that a lot of homes are so disorganized that it's amazing the kids even make it to school at all. And the home, there's no organization, it seems like, and the kids couldn't do any homework at home.
Starting point is 00:13:51 I've tried to help people, and we've got to do something in the home. We can't put it all on the schools. How do you feel about that? Thank you for the call, David. Yes, thank you for the call on the question. I do agree with that. And what I've definitely seen over the last several years is that there's a lot more of a disconnect between what's going on at home and what's going on at school to the point of even
Starting point is 00:14:14 that families are a lot less involved in their kids' education. And schools, they shouldn't be okay with it, but somehow that's become accepted for even families not to show up to conferences or if something. is happening at school, the family is not even always brought into it or required to participate and problem solve it. I'm going to theorize a little bit about this, that shall we say, politically active government school teachers with an agenda may have some role to play on this. It's just a theory of mine, Jennifer, because more often than not, you know, you'll hear
Starting point is 00:14:58 from some of them. It's just like, hey, listen, they may be your kids, but they're really our kids. There's kind of that attitude. And this is where we end up getting the pushback against parents that don't want the transgender stuff or the ultra-sex pushed on everything and the abortions handed out to the school health system, you know, that kind of thing. Isn't there a real disconnect, I guess, between what teachers think kids need and what parents might even think their kids need? I completely agree with that. And that disconnect does really hurt the kids that really do need that support and the families that need that support to make sure that there's that structure going on at home. Final question I would have for you besides where to get this report here is, is this mostly focused on public school or is it a combination of public and private school, parochial school, things like that, do you know?
Starting point is 00:15:53 So the long-term trend assessment was primarily on the public schools. Okay. That's what I was thinking. All right. There was another assessment that was released in 2025 that does have more of a breakdown between charter schools and public schools and private as well. But this report that was released on Wednesday is just public. I really appreciate you having come on and talked about this.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And where can we go to find out more do you have it on the main Manhattan Institute website? just give us the high points here. Well, right now you can see all of the data for yourself on the nations report card.gov. Okay, the nations report card.com. And Manhattan Institute website, because you've got a lot of other issues in play over there. Good people. Absolutely. And that is at Manhattan Institute.org, I think.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Just want to make sure. Did I get that? Yes. Okay, good. All right. You were thinking about it too, weren't you? I knew it. I wanted to get that right.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Jennifer, a pleasure talking with you, and thanks for sharing some insight on this Nation's report card, okay? You take care. Thank you. Thank you. It is 830 at KMED and 993KBXG. We're live from the Army Navy Marine Store Studio, like I had mentioned here before. And we're going to be giving away some good stuff there from the Army Navy Marine Store here in the next few minutes before I shut down for the weekend, okay? So very, very good stuff.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 Find your phone Friday in Wild Salmon. Steve is here. Hello, Steve. Welcome back. Hey, Bill. The great segment on education. One thing I'd like to add to that, I have two things. I'm going to be like a creature or something. But about education is before they passed the law that stopped kids from being able to work until they're 18, I started working when I was 13 or 14. And I learned a lot from working, you know, having your hands on things makes you understand a lot better than reading something off of a Chromebook,
Starting point is 00:20:41 which is like a second of derivative. away from having your hands on it. I would agree with you. And it's, you know, actually getting in touch with the real world. And the other thing about working as a teenager, and I worked as a teen, neat teenager here, Steve, I want to say, well, even before I was a teenager, I was, you know, doing the delivery of grit newspaper back when I was a real little kid. And then I delivered papers, did all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:10 But then I ended up working in ham radio stores and did that kind of stuff. I was pretty fortunate about that, but I had some electronic knowledge. The thing is, though, you learn how to deal with people, you learn how to deal with the real 3D world at that point, and you also learn to do things like show up on time. There's another aspect to it, and that is that agriculture and other small businesses get to hire people fairly inexpensively while they're training them at the same time, you know? There's a double-edged coin there, and so we're missing that. Do people or do young people work in the summer any longer, or is that pretty much all gone? You can't.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Really? No. How old do you really have to be? I've not really looked into this deeply. I'm sorry. 18? Yes. Nobody?
Starting point is 00:22:08 There has to be some allowance for kids working. There has to be something like that. Well, there probably are, but it's so. complicated that employers, you know, it goes to minimum wage and a whole bunch of other things, but the jobs just aren't there that used to be, you know, smudging or picking berries or... Well, but ultimately, you also have to consider that minimum wage, especially when you're talking about a minimum wage at $15, $16, $17 an hour, a teenager is not worth that in many cases. They're not productive enough.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That's what I'm saying. Employers got low-cost labor, but it cost the employer training and dealing with some of the other stuff. So I think the employers would hire more than what they needed and know that some of them weren't going to show up and whatever. I fend peaches and I just did lots of stuff. Yeah, but of course that was a country that seemed to be okay with physical work. And the culture has changed quite a bit there, Wild Salmon. Point well taken. 770 KMED, 836. Hi, KMED, good morning.
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Starting point is 00:23:28 As an old Oregon guy, you know, back in the day when all the school districts ran themselves, the thing that drove education in Oregon back then, Bill, was parents wanted the kids with a high school diploma to be able to go to right out of high school. You didn't have to, but that was the goal. And that was our curriculum, our curriculum, and all of our educational experiences were designed so that when we got our graduation diploma, right, you know, in 12th grade. Well, yeah, you were functional. You were functional. Yeah, and Bill, that's what we've lost. We've lost the ability for kids to go right out of high school and go to work. I don't know how we fix it, but that's the problem. Good point, Dad. Thanks for that, Brad. 770 KMED. Hi, KMED.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Good morning. Hey, Bill, I know I'm double-diffing. Hey, this is Scotty Walter. Yeah, okay. Go ahead. What's your point there, Scott? I actually work for my father. When you work for your family business, either on a ranch or we had a plastics business,
Starting point is 00:24:28 I was throwing plastics in an oven at six years old. And I did retire into 18 from one thing. Yeah. Well, I would imagine today, what, would your parents be written up by OSHA and Child Protective Services? Oh, I did not with your son or your daughter. No way. You can work for your family business when we do out here in the country. Well, what I was saying, though, and you're talking about doing plastics molding, that could be considered a hazardous job, though. You know what I'm getting that?
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's acrylic, mostly acrylic. It comes from grinding up roots. Oh, okay. All right, fair enough. You know, acrylic's a resin. But what are the rules on teen employment these days? You know? Well, with bully, which is the Bureau of Labor and Industries, it's pretty strict. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So Steve was right about that next to impossible. And then if you have to pay a high minimum wage, the kid's not worth it. And then the kid doesn't get the experience and doesn't get the, well, the dignity of working and also learning how to deal with people. Oh, dealing with people is the hardest part of business. It is. And the soft skills that they always talk about over at RCC, they're having to retrain the kids. Okay. All right, Scott.
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Starting point is 00:31:53 Tara's theme. It's from the soundtrack of Gone with the Win. It was actually two days ago, June 10th, 1939, one of the most famous scenes in movie history filmed, and that's going to be our question this morning.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Tim, how you doing this morning? Well, good morning. Good morning, Tim. So anyway, the most famous scene in movie history is filmed as far as I'm concerned. You have Rhett Butler, Scarlett O'Hara, parting. The director, Victor Fleming also shot the scene using the alternate
Starting point is 00:32:25 line. Frankly, my dear, I just don't care. But in case the film censors objected to the word damn, right, you know, I don't give a damn, that sort of thing. Well, it was an epic. Took two and a half years, elaxing between when the producer purchased the rights to Margaret Mitchell's novel
Starting point is 00:32:41 and the novel and the movie's debut, rather, in Atlanta in 1939. As everyone knows, though, The alternate line was used, and the producer, David Selsnick, was fined by the censors. So for the win this morning, Tim, how much did the producer of Gone with the Win pay because of Dam being in the movie? Okay? Wow, that's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Was it $5? $50? C, $500, D, $5,000, or E, $50,000? for frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn and gone with the wind. What is it, $5? $5? Yeah, $5. You're going to go with $5? No, I am sorry, Tim.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Let me go to Dan. Well, we know that it was a fine, but it was more expensive than $5. How you doing, Dan? Good. How are you? 1939. We're talking about fining the motion picture. $50, $500, $500,000, $5,000 or $50,000.
Starting point is 00:33:50 How much did they fine? the producer. $50? $50. Was it 50 bucks? It may have been a cheap fine, but not that cheap. Thank you. Peggy's here.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Hello, Peggy. Hey, Bill. All right. So we have $500, $500 or $50,000. How much did the producer pay because, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. If I've watched that movie once I've watched it. Of course. Of course you have.
Starting point is 00:34:21 $50,000 or $50,000? $5,000? $5,000. Was it $5,000? No. Yeah. Oh, it was great. Maybe you got it through osmosis because of this, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Censors approved the movie, but they find the producer $5,000 for including the curse word. All right. So there you go. Peggy. Great. You know, so often I say, I'm sorry, Peggy, you didn't get it, but you got it this time. All right. Hang on.
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Starting point is 00:37:16 All right. We do have some open phones here for the rest of the show, 770563. By the way, another number I want you to know is Steve Yancey's number at Sky Park because we were talking earlier this week about what's going to be. on here that there are some, well, there's movement going on if you have been turned down for insurance, especially in your rural home because of wildfire risks. We know what that's been going. Call Steve, get a quote, because there are some new lines of business that have been, you know,
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Starting point is 00:38:24 Live without a net. This is Bill, and who are you? It's not crazy, Gene, this time. I just wanted to mention the Ham Radio Field Day is coming up on the 27th of June. This year we're having it at the Veterans Facility that used to be the Dom, and I don't even know what they call it now, but it's going to be in the baseball field area. And people are welcome to stop by and check it out. That's great.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Now, this is Field Day when it goes on for 24 hours or is it more than 24 hours? Yeah, it starts at 11 o'clock on Saturday. Saturday and shuts off at 11 o'clock on Sunday. People will be out there setting up stuff, putting up antennas and getting things organized. So two weeks from tomorrow's when that's happening, Steve. Hey, let me just touch and you ask you a question. How much interest is being showed in the new digital emissions or the digital ways of communicating on amateur radio? And I'm wondering if that is something which has really exploded in popularity or not.
Starting point is 00:39:23 It's going on. The more techie people are more into that. You know, it's crazy. They've got like name tags that flash their call sign and stuff that confounds me. But, you know, there is a lot of digital applications. I mean, the email version of Ham Radio called Winlink is digital. You know, it's kind of just like how a fax machine works, you load up an email into Winlink and connect to another radio station and send it that way, you know, it's a digital transmission. Yeah. There's also, you can download satellite pictures.
Starting point is 00:40:05 You can get data from satellites on ham radio. There's just a lot of stuff as far as that goes. I'm glad to know that. Glad to know that. All right. Because the last time I took part in a field day, I was literally, I was a kid, you know, and I just have been busier on the weekends like that. I'm just glad that the hams are still doing stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I really am. Well, it's easy this year. It's going to be there at the old Dom on the baseball field. You know, go in the second gate. The gate closes to Eagle Point, not the main gate. And anybody's welcome to come. We don't charge. You can even get on the air if you want to.
Starting point is 00:40:47 We'll have a station there where we use third-party rules whereby anybody can be on the air if there is a ham licensed operator. Excellent. And, well, make sure and check back with me a couple of weeks when we're beginning that weekend, but you're just telling people to put it on the calendar for right now. All right, Steve, I appreciate that. 770563. Let me go to next line.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Hi, KMED. Morning, who's this? Hello. Hello. Oh, hey, Jean. How you doing? I'm doing okay. I've got three things.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Okay, well, light them out here. I'm running out of time. So, go ahead. The mother that is yelling because her son's going to prison for murder, what would they be yelling if the colors were reversed? Nothing. They would be yelling nothing. They'd just be sad that their kid did bad stuff. Okay, number two, what's that?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Okay. Okay. One thing that wasn't brought up in the speakier this morning, the parent is being blamed for not reading. Did they ever think of the fact that the mother reads, the sibling read, but one of the siblings happened to be dyslexic and has trouble trying to read? Yeah, well, yeah, you can always say I have an exception there, but all I was getting at is that generally speaking, if parents read the children will model after that. Now, if the parent's dyslexic, yeah, that can be an issue. Of course, I have, you know, I'm married to a person who is dyslexic and reads really well. But, you know, back when she was having to learn how to read, nobody was making an excuse for being dyslexic. So, and that's about it.
Starting point is 00:42:43 And what was the third one? I mean, I got to go. Okay. Okay. They're talking about greenhouse gas. Who is the supplying the cork, and are they the one that's going to cork them for the gas for blowing? You know, I was just reading, oddly enough, Gene, it's so funny you brought that up. Thanks with the call.
Starting point is 00:43:04 But I got pitched by somebody that says that, you know, greenhouse gases, they're actually talking about flatulents to, flatulence detecting underwear, Gene, I kid you not. I might have to interview that person just because it is so bizarre and so much fun. Okay, all right. Let's have a little more fun right now, okay? You know how this is the Army Navy Marine Store Studio? We have another great prize to give you right now. It is a Camp Chef 10-inch Heritage cast iron skillet.
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