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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. One question I wanted to toss out to you this morning here is a lot of conversation going on about the Iran-Israel conflict. And do you think we ought to be more involved in this directly? There is a conversation about this, or do you think we ought to just stay out of it in one form or the other? I think it's a... I'd love to just get your take on it one way or the other. Steve, the Marine is here. I think you may be here on a different topic, but good to have you here. What's on your mind there?
Starting point is 00:00:36 I was listening to a public radio or public... the news hour last night and they mentioned that the House of Representatives has ended the limits on silencers and this was passed up to the Senate right and they've added short-barreled rifles and shotguns to it. And in all of those cases, it not only allows people to have them, but eliminates regulations. Yeah, short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns, that sort of thing. As it is right now, just like the suppressor up to this point, you had to pay the $200 tax stamp and all this stuff came in the 1930s as you well know. You've talked with me about that
Starting point is 00:01:29 before. A $200 tax stamp at that point was a prohibitive for most people to get something like that. Yeah, yeah, now not a big deal. Now what I don't know, Steve, I think it's interesting if the Senate's adding getting rid of the short barrel rifle and shotgun tax, I'm curious if they're just going to deregulate it and let you have them or if you still have to jump through the hoops. Because as it is right now, you have to pay the tax, but you got to get fingerprinted, the sheriff has to approve you, you have to go through all sorts of stuff. It's still a rather arduous legal process. Do you know if they have gotten rid of that?
Starting point is 00:02:05 That's it. The Senate is eliminating regulations also, so I believe all of those problems are gone. What I don't know is if they're going to do anything on fully automatic weapons. Yeah, that was an actual law passed back in the 1980s, wasn't it? Late 80s, I think, that got rid of that. Fully automatics? I think they were banned in the 30s. You already mentioned that law. I can't remember the name of the law, but it was in response to guys like Dillinger and Bonnie and Clyde and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Well, actually, they weren't banned. Back then, you just had to pay the tax, but it was in the 1980s though. You just had to pay the tax. Yeah, there's a registry that no new automatic weapons are made for civilian consumption. Our government gods, of course, are able to get all the machine guns that they want. And naturally the drug cartels somehow are able to get all the machine guns they want. It's kind of funny how that is, but it was the late 80s that they stopped it and they call it the registry. I forget exactly the term of it.
Starting point is 00:03:08 I'm just spitballing with you. And yeah, and so you can still buy machine guns today, fully automatic machine guns, but they're old. They're all old and they're very expensive because of the rarity of them. But you can get them. They're not making any more of those for civilian use. No, not for civilian use at this point. But like I said, our government masters can. There's always an exception for them, isn't there Steve? Isn't there always an exception for the
Starting point is 00:03:33 government folks? Oh yes, yes, yes. It's a power, it's a matter of power. I think they're starting to lose on a lot of those areas. I appreciate the call and great hearing from you, Steve. The Marines simplify, okay? Right here at the meeting. So take it easy. All right, you too now. Sixteen minutes after seven, hand in the update and more coming up here and then we'll continue
Starting point is 00:03:56 with your calls, open phones. A question on my mind here. Iran and Israel, that the attack from Israel on to Iran to get rid of the nuclear capability, etc., was them. And now there seems to be some squishiness going, well now we're involved. How involved do you think we should be? We'll just kind of leave it there, okay? 7705633. Anything else that's on your mind too, we can talk about that. The soil around your home is a lot like a sponge. It expands when it's wet and contracts when it's
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Starting point is 00:04:58 Land in them doing a commercial for Garrison's Express. You sound bored. I mean... Listen to... That's HannityGold.com You're hearing the Bill Meyers show on Southern Oregon's home for conservative talk. Mornings on KMED at 99.3 KBXG. Call Bill at 770-5633. That's 770-KMED. Here's Bill Meyers. 20 minutes after 7, continuing the conversation with you, 7705633.
Starting point is 00:05:28 One question this morning, though, is how much involvement do you want with the United States and an attack on Iran? When there was the Israel attack on Iran, apparently Marco Rubio back at that point said the United States had nothing to do with it. I didn't quite believe it then. And you have President Trump yesterday was asked about this and he's alluding to the possibility of assassinating the Iranian president. But we won't do that right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And then he also talked about the nuclear issue, a reporter asking him about that. Mr. President, you've always said that you don't believe Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon. But how close do you personally think that they were to getting one? Because Tulsi Gabbard testified in March that the intelligence community said Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon. I don't care what she said. I think they were very close to happening. Oh, okay. So President Trump doesn't believe Tulsi, says thinks they're very close. Okay, so we appear to be moving forward. This has been raising some alarms over in Megaville and I was watching a quite interesting interview with Tucker Carlson. I don't watch Tucker Carlson very often. I just don't have the time. I'm doing other things and
Starting point is 00:06:44 getting ready for my own stuff. But I was watching he and Steve Bannon from the other day talking about it, and it was quite a talk. And they're expressing concerns that they're thinking like, okay, here it is. We're trying to get the economy tweaked around and getting production put back in here, getting the border closed down, and sending people back that shouldn't be here or who shouldn't be here. And then all of a sudden, what was going to be an attack now by Israel to take care of some problems that they were having with Iran is now turned into regime change talk. And they're thinking that the way that Steve Bannon and Tucker and others of, I guess,
Starting point is 00:07:25 of, you know, MAGA.com, if you want to call it that, they're concerned that this is all of a sudden going to suck us back into a greater Mideast war. And it's like, you try to stay out of it, is what Steve Bannon was talking about. It was interesting. It was interesting. I was watching this and he says, you try to stay out of it. President Trump ran on keeping us out of forever wars, especially keeping us out of the Middle East sandpit. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:07:54 all of a sudden it's like you're hearing the talk from the neocons. Once again, it's like the neocon talk from, from 2000, 2001, we're going to be greeted like liberators and we need to do this. It's a Nazi regime, you know, all these kind of things. And so I'm just going to toss it out at you. Where are you on that spectrum right now? Are you thinking that we ought to, if making America great means staying out of the Middle Eastern sandbox at this point, and if Israel wants to do something, hey,
Starting point is 00:08:25 Israel does it, but maybe, you know, we provide a little bit of support but we stay out of it. Or is it a little different? Now Tucker last night ended up talking with Ted Cruz. It didn't go so well. People living around by the way. I don't know the pop. Oh wait, let me start this again.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I saved the bite. I thought it was it was interesting How many people living around by the way, I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population You don't know the population the country you seek to topple How many people living around 92 million, okay Yeah, how could you not know that I? Don't sit around memorizing population tables. Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million? Why is that relevant? Well, because if you don't know anything about the country... I didn't say I don't know anything about the country. Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran? No. They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay, this is...
Starting point is 00:09:22 No, it's not even... You don't know anything about Iran. So actually the country- Okay, I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran who says- You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government and you don't know anything about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:09:38 No, I'm not saying that. Who can't figure out if it was a good idea to kill General Soleimani and you said it was bad. You don't believe they're trying to murder Trump? Yes, I do! Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe that... We're carrying out military strikes today.
Starting point is 00:09:51 You said Israel was. Right. With our help. I said we. Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, you're breaking news here because the US government last night denied, the National Security Council spokesman Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity at all. We're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them. You just said we were.
Starting point is 00:10:12 We are supporting Israel. It's high stakes. You're a senator. If you're saying the United States government is at war with Iran right now, people are listening. Yeah, and I thought that was a little unfair of Tucker to say, well, how many people are in Iran? Most people probably couldn't even find Iran on the map.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But that being said, but still, I do find it interesting. What is we? Right? What is we? And that's why when I heard President Trump yesterday talking about, you know, we know where he is, where the president of Iran is, and we're not going to kill him right now. I'm paraphrasing right now. But we could if we wanted to. And then the first thought that went through my head, now just silly me, was I
Starting point is 00:10:50 didn't realize that we had declared war on Iran at that point. But I guess these days, you know, we don't bother with such things. And President Trump is most likely under great pressure by the neoconservatives, because it looks by the neoconservatives, because it looks like the neoconservatives such as the Lindsey Grahams are rising once again. I can't help but feel that we're getting a little bit of rhyming going on. I think Tucker was unfair a bit there with Ted Cruz, don't you? But what is we? So should we be more involved?
Starting point is 00:11:24 Should we just go full in and provide the whole support and not just send the bucks to Israel and have them do it? Or should we be the other end of that? Now I know to not be totally involved in there then gets described by the neocons as the dangerous isolationism, which is kind of silly given that we have bases all over the world. I don't know how we can call ourselves isolationists, but don't necessarily try to get yourself in trouble. I understand where Bannon's coming from. He's concerned that if you don't, that these are deep state wars. And I would agree with him. I think that Bannon's right on this thing, that these are deep state wars. And I would agree with him. I think that Bannon's right on this thing, that these are deep state wars. And that if they get their way,
Starting point is 00:12:10 we're kind of right back to where we were before. And then it would end up derailing the Trump administration's goals. And I hope that's not the case. I hope he's wrong about that. But I'm just throwing it out to you. What do you think? Because I'm just a guy
Starting point is 00:12:26 just like you're just a guy or a woman we can discuss that and more but where do you fall on this more involvement less involvement kind of keeping where it's at this is the Bill Meyers show on 1063 KMED. Lucretia didn't get a chance to get in yesterday, so Lucretia, we were talking fluorescent lights and you're talking LED lights this morning. You want to give me a take on it? Go ahead. Well, you were talking about LED, I think, as well, as far as trying to switch all the lights over to LED, right?
Starting point is 00:13:09 They're trying to do that and not have their incandescent. Two different shows I listened to, one by a German doctor said these LEDs are going to cause about two billion people to get macular degeneration, go blind before they die. Really? What was the theory going on there? Now, at the point, just remember that the state of Oregon banned the sale of fluorescent lights. So there's no fluorescent lights, no fluorescent bulbs available for the most part. Very few. That happened at the first of the year. And I didn't even know that, really. But that's what's been driving this, Lucretia. What it does is it causes anything with warmth. Your body will put out the antioxidants to also rebuild because it's destroying the eye.
Starting point is 00:13:55 It's very bad on it. So it kills it. Is the LED spectrum for many of those lights, the spectrum of light, just too narrow? Is that what you're getting at? Yeah. It's just everything opposite of the sun, but that was another show I listened to that it's just really toxic stuff to the eye until people are going blind. And the other thing is Dr. Sulcer, who has over a million dollars
Starting point is 00:14:18 equipment to test lighting. I mean, when they, it's causing all sorts of other dirty electricity on the lines and it's doubling, doubling the need for the electricity, the electromagnetism as I like to call it. Well, the need for filtering. I can concur with you that the radio frequency output of the LED lights is quite intense at some points. And if you have a radio, if you were trying to listen to AM radio and you have an LED light bulb next to it, it's just filled with noise and hash. So you may have a point there, and I appreciate the call. But this is once again government interference, no incandescent bulbs, and then they came for the fluorescence and then I next and next it will not be LEDs allowed, Lucretia. It will be little you know semi-atomic there will be like
Starting point is 00:15:09 little atomic energy light bulbs. They'll be probably the next thing okay? All right. We need to get this out there. I mean they put all these safety equipment on. What about the safety of our eyes? Even the American Medical Association backs LEDs. Why? I thought they were trying to protect us. All right. Interesting question. Thanks for raising it. Lynn's here. Lynn, you wanted to weigh in on the whipsawing that I'm feeling here when I look at the Iran-Israel conflict and our involvement in it or not involvement in it, because I see a lot of people that I respect on both sides of it that, well, they whipsaw me. What can I say? What about you?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, same here. First, I want to endorse what Lucretia just said. I hate the LEDs. I still have a stash of incandescence, so we haven't had to go. Anyway, but on to world affairs, I'm super torn. I've been really disturbed by the rise of anti-Semitism around the world and in this country. And I'm not talking about you're not allowed to criticize Israel. Of course you are, but I think something much deeper is going on. Well, I don't know that you are because remember what the government
Starting point is 00:16:17 was been trying to pass, what Congress was trying to pass, is that criticism of Israel is conflated with anti-Semitism and I had an issue with that. I don't like that. I don't like that. But nevertheless, Jews are being attacked and even murdered now just for being Jewish. So the other thing, I listened to the Bannon interview and I really respect him and it's very sobering and I also respect Tucker. So I don't know who to believe, but people have
Starting point is 00:16:46 said, well, why does Israel have to do this now? You know, they're not there. They're at least a year away or whatever. Well, they've been at least a year away for 40 years, you know? Right. But why now? Because October 7th changed everything. It changed the political calculus for Israel and around the world. And in the last year, Israel has taken out Hezbollah, they've taken out Hamas, and of course the world hates them for all of that. But the various proxies that would potentially support Iran, Russia are either greatly weakened or busy with other wars. Yeah, because Russia would normally, I think, have backed up Iran. They've been pretty quiet in this one so far.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And I think it's because they're still stuck in the Ukraine wicket at this time. Yeah, they've lost a million people. It's horrible. Anyway, so I do not know who to believe, but when this whole thing happened, the first thought that came to me is, Israel doesn't have bunker busting bombs.
Starting point is 00:17:43 They're not going to be able to take out the nuclear capacity unless they bomb that mountain. And I think that's what's going to drag us into it, and I'm very concerned. And yet, well, I'm concerned also in a different respect though, that every single intelligent agency, and this is the one that DNI director Tulsi Gabbard said, saying that no, they don't have it. Yeah, but they're getting there. You only need 4% enriched. I'm no expert, but this is what I heard in somebody talking about this with knowledge that you only need 4%
Starting point is 00:18:16 enrichment for peaceful use of uranium, and they're up to 60%, and when they get to 90% they can make a bomb. Yeah. And they've sworn to destroy Israel. We know that as soon as they get a bomb they're gonna nuke Israel. And that is going to create a nuclear holocaust. Okay, so you really believe that, okay? Because you know that they nuke Israel and then Iran is instantly vaporized too, unless you think it doesn't matter. Yeah, but they don't care. They're run by religious bellets who believe this is what Allah wants and that if they are wiped out they go immediately to paradise and get all the virgins and whatever.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So these are not rational people. You know Russia is rational, even the Soviet Union was rational. The people running Iran are not rational people and. And I learned this from Dr. Phil, when people show you who they are, believe them, and they've been very clear about their intentions toward Israel. So I'm not inclined to criticize Israel for doing it now, but I am really worried. Should we be involved with it though? How deeply should we be involved? That's the question though. Right. Well, no boots on the ground for sure, but apparently for the bunker busting bombs and we need to use our pilots, I don't know how it all works, but you know, and that's, how
Starting point is 00:19:33 do you stop? Yeah, because the stealth bombers are the ones that actually drop those bunker busters, so they would need that. Okay. Yeah. All right. Lynn, thank you for the opinion. Really appreciate it. Okay, thanks. All right. We, thank you for the opinion. Really appreciate it. Okay, thanks.
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Starting point is 00:21:06 here's what's going on i'm mark with oregon truck and auto authority and i'm on KMED it's called the biggest tax increase ever on oregonians and yeah they're talking about payrolls and gas tax hikes and all the rest of it. Is there any fight? Are they going to get it done this time? I don't know. I wanted to talk with Nick Stark, who's the executive director of the Oregon Freedom Coalition. Nick, how are you doing this morning?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Welcome to the show. I'm doing good, Bill. How about you, Starr? I'm great. Tell me a little bit about the Oregon Freedom Coalition first. What are you all about and what are you pushing to do when it comes to this huge taxing crates which is being floated? That's okay.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It's just for wildfire. It's for climate. It's for bicycle lanes. It's for everything. It's just everything. It's huge. Huge, huge, huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So Oregon Freedom Coalition is... We founded in December and our whole goal is let's build out the conservative movement in Oregon. Let's create a you know a basic infrastructure in the state and let's reclaim our state you know there's a lot of there's a lot of conservative folks out there we think we've got the numbers to beat you know the left and we just we got to get everybody activated so that's that's kind of what we're doing we're're trying to activate your average citizens to eventually to vote when elections roll around, but to get involved in battles such as this tax increase that they're trying to do. Trying to get them to email their senators and their
Starting point is 00:22:40 representatives, that sort of thing. Yeah. what is the status then of House Bill 2025? This is the, now they always put a nice little name on it, transportation reinvushment package, which means that they take money that you would like to invest in something else and put it into something that Salem wants. But what is this all about? What's the status? Yeah, well, and it's, you know, the acronym they're using for this package is TRIP,
Starting point is 00:23:03 which I think is just so fitting that they don't realize that they're tripping up the average Orgonian, you know, tripping their own constituents. But the status of the bill currently is going through the House. So what is odd about this is they're trying to just ram it down your throat right at the last minute, which is, you know, typical. The last day of session is next week, next Friday, and it's got a working session today. So basically what that means is that they're gonna vote on it in committee today. There's a floor vote
Starting point is 00:23:35 as early as next week and that's when we'll know, okay, is it passed the House or not? If it's passed the House, we're in trouble. But our goal is we're trying to kill it in the House. And we think we trouble. But our goal is we're trying to kill it in the house. And we think we can do it. We think we can do it with No Tax OR. No Tax OR, what is that? Yeah, so that's our part of our, it's one of our biggest projects that we're doing right now. It's No Tax Oregon and notaxor.com is where you can go to find out all sorts of details on how this impacts you know your listeners how it impacts the average working-class Argonian in this state and what you can do on that website is it's not just an
Starting point is 00:24:16 informational thing you can there's a little box that if you go there and you fill it out it'll send an automatically generated letter to your representative saying, do not raise my taxes. Don't punish me for the shortcomings of the Oregon legislature when it comes to ODOT. Is there any way that you can have it sent to someone who is not your rep? Because I would give you an example at this point. My particular House Rep is Kim Wallin, who I don't think is a supporter of HB 2025, and I have no doubt she'd be a solid no vote, but she's outnumbered. Now, you end up having, you know, State Representative Pam Marsh is an example, probably all over this.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Oh my goodness, it'll raise taxes on transportation. We'll have bike lanes and bike lanes and more bike lanes, I guess, and all these other sort of things. We'll raise payroll taxes, buses and bike lanes everywhere. And yet she would probably be the one we really have to talk to because they're in the majority, you know, the Democrats. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. So the short answer is you can't send it to someone that's not your rep. You can forward the link to people who live in their districts. That's what I'd recommend. Got it. Okay. The other portion is there's a little donate link up in that right hand corner of that. And if you go there, donate. That money goes specifically towards this project so we can do things like run ads, digital ads, in districts of people that we think are vulnerable and could potentially vote no on this. Oh, so you want to target the most likely, probably it's going to be mostly Democrat
Starting point is 00:25:53 squishes, right? Exactly. Okay. Someone like Representative Marsh, we'll see. I think she's a true believer in this agenda, most likely. But there are some other ones that you think are persuadable. Is that kind of what you're getting at? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:26:11 So it's making sure that they get the pressure from folks in their districts. And the money that we're spending on this is going towards making sure that they hear from those folks. So people that are business minded, there's actually, believe it or not, people on the left that are business minded, that own their own businesses. Yeah, people who actually have businesses. And you look at the insane,
Starting point is 00:26:32 aren't they proposing taking that transportation payroll tax right now, which is 1 1% right now, and tripling it or quadrupling it, I think it was a really, really high increase on that. Yes, it's a significant increase. So that's the, that's a big one. The one that I really don't like in this package is the fuel tax going up.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And that's, that's the most, you know, day to day, the one that Oregonians will feel it's going to, it's going to go up 15 cents per gallon. But the terrible thing about it is that they're going to index it to inflation, which means that when inflation goes up by, let's say, just 10% in the next five years or so, that means your taxes are going to go up 10% on gas without anybody taking a vote on it. Okay. well, your fuel tax will go up, not the price of gas necessarily. You know, Nick, though, and I understand not wanting to pay more gas tax, I really do, but isn't it irresponsible to expect a fixed amount of money going in to, you know, to help repair roads to keep up, given the fact that everything about repairing a road will go up. And I at least looked at the fuel tax as, hey, it's anonymous, etc. It's not chipping the car,
Starting point is 00:27:55 you know, all these other sort of things. And, you know, to keep the gas tax just at the same tax for, you know, a long, long time doesn't necessarily happen because it's a per gallon thing. It's not based on the price of the gasoline itself, though. So are we barking up the wrong tree there? You know, I think one of the better ways to fix that is through a mileage tax. But that's the chip. But you see, that's chipping the car. That's what I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:28:19 That's the transponder, and that gives the pan-marshes of the world then the ability to give us congestion-based pricing or the city of Medford says we don't like you driving into downtown Medford at 8 in the morning because of climate, climate change, you know that sort of thing. We'll charge you a dollar per mile instead of two cents per mile let's say or whatever they might think about. There's a lot of social engineering that could be done by that, wouldn't you say? Yeah, I think I'm a fan of, you know, as little intrusive as you can do it. So basically, you just kind of do it with your
Starting point is 00:28:51 income taxes every year. You just say, hey, here's how much my car drove over the last year. I think that's probably a simpler way. I'm a big fan of broad-based low rates when it comes to taxes in general. And when it comes to the ODOT budget ODOT is so poorly managed that they still have not finished projects from the 2017 tax increases that they they said they would do in no time with you know loads more money Okay, so what's the point of a two billion dollar increase into something else? They can't even fix what's been Assigned to them before okay boy. Yeah, yeah, they're doing all sorts of projects. You know, it's just another Oregon agency that's gotten mission creeped. And I don't think that
Starting point is 00:29:32 the solution to their budget gap is to raise taxes, even if it seems reasonable or sensible. I think the issue is let's get them back on track. Let's get them focused again. So fix ODOT first, then maybe talk about the money that might be in there and not in this legislative session. So you're trying to kill this bill right now, right? Yeah, exactly. All right, so you go to notaxor.com and you can certainly click then to send it
Starting point is 00:29:58 to your state rep. And this is just on the House side that we're worried about right now, not the Senate, right? Just the House, right? Yes, and I believe that we've set it up, or we were in the process of setting it up to where it would send a letter to your Senator as well. Oh, okay. But, yeah, right now we're trying to kill it in the House to make sure that it doesn't even move out of there.
Starting point is 00:30:18 All right, I think that is a reasonable goal right now. And let's see if we can maybe kill it this week. It would be great if we could kill it this week. It would be really great if just the House Reps and House Senators would just walk out on the Republican side. Because you know Saturday, we're at the point where they could all walk out for the rest of the session, at least up until the day before, and they wouldn't pay a penalty. You're aware of that, aren't you, Nick? I am, am yeah, and I heard rumor of some talks, but I'm not gonna give too much away There's
Starting point is 00:30:49 This is definitely something that we think we can we can kill if it goes to the floor so With this package in particular a walk isn't we don't think is necessary There are other things that are you know pretty scary that are coming down that I think they're discussing some strategy on how to go about negotiating to kill this stuff. I hope you're right about that, Nick. Nick Stark is the executive director of the Oregon Freedom Coalition. OregonFreedom.com is their website. no tax or dot com and get those those cards and letters kids sent out to your state reps and forward this along to essentially democratically controlled state reps to so people that you know because we need to really get them you know off of this because there's probably not universal support for something like this right that's kind of what you're telling me okay Nick
Starting point is 00:31:44 appreciate the call and thanks for stepping it up there and it's notaxor.com. Thank you. We'll talk to you again. Thank you. Yep. Move it. 751 at KMED 993 KBXG. Open phone time again here on the Bill Meyers Show at 770-563-3770 KMED.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Harper, what should we highlight in our Gearsons Home commercial? Milk coming out of my nose. How's that? News Talk 1063 KMED. This is the Bill Meyers Show. Alright, back to your calls at 7705633. Do you have an opinion on how deeply involved you think that the United States should be? Because apparently we are.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Everybody's talking in Washington D.C. about we. We are involved. We were told before, oh no, it was just Israel doing this, but no, it's we now. Are you okay with we? How big should we be? We can talk about that or anything else on your mind here too. 770KMED, let me go to Jeff. Jeff, you're disappointed in a call from Lucretia. Why is that? I'm so disappointed. And Lucretia, I know you're listening, but I am disappointed in you that you didn't mention that LED light can be used as a carrier signal for audio. Because if you put a microphone connected into an LED that you can broadcast, well, within line of sight, if you can see the bulb, then you can pick up what's going on in someone's house.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yes, you can modulate the light with your voice, right? Now, is that just epi-amplitude modulation, right? And then you have the audio signal. So it does not say that it's FCC compliant. You were talking about the radio interference. Yes. Everything else in the world is, you know, FCC compliant for radio interference, but not LED bulb. The FCC has fallen down on that for a long, long time. In fact, they didn't even really... they should have been enforcing the rules against the switching power supplies, the wall warts, everything which has proliferated as the cheap Chinese electronics ended up flooding our markets. They could have done something about that a long, long time ago, but as you know well, flooding our markets. They could have done something about that a long, long time ago, but as you know well, if you have an AM radio, this is one of the
Starting point is 00:34:07 things which was killing AM radio too, is the fact that everything in your house now is putting out RF hash. I either work with light on in my shop and listen, or work with listening to the radio in my shop. I can't do both. That's right. All over my FM radio. I can't listen to you, Bill. Oh, so it even affects FM to a certain extent. It's usually a lesser extent. Yeah, well a lesser extent, but I mean I've got 12 shop lights in my shop and
Starting point is 00:34:37 the radio's fairly close to the switch. So you're turning it on and it gets kind of aggravating. I get it. Well, I appreciate the update. We feel for you. What's that? We feel for you and Selma. Thank you, Joe. All right, 770KMED.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Hi, good morning. Who is this? Welcome. Hello. Bill? Yes. Oh, good. This is Monica.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Hi, Monica. And I'm calling regarding Lynne's remarks about Iran and Israel and stuff. But I kind of feel like I understand what she's trying to really say is, let's get rid of them, bomb the hell out of them, get rid of all the stuff. Just go for it. I'm for that. But what's going to happen here in our country when that happens? We already have Hamas all over the place, the colleges, everything. They're organized here.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Plus we don't know who else was let in the last four years. So that's my concern is, is the government fully aware of what might happen here in our country if we do take out the Iran and the nuclear? You know what was interesting? You know something, Monica, it's interesting you bring this up. You're talking about second-order thinking, right? Right. And I was reading a fascinating blog, The Z-Man, and I don't know if you've ever read the Z-Man blog online. And I don't know him, he just calls himself the Z-Man. I don't know what his real name is, but it's still important. He wrote a piece the other day
Starting point is 00:36:23 that I thought was so pressing about this because he says it's called Remembering What Comes Next. And he was connecting what's happened with our political process now. He says, 30 years ago when Bill Clinton was caught chasing interns around the Oval Office, many assumed it was the end of him. Instead, he wiggled free of it, but actually seemed to be stronger because Bill Clinton, he said, was an extremely clever man. Not necessarily a smart man, but a clever man. And because of what has happened between that and the media and social media especially, is
Starting point is 00:36:56 that Bill Clinton was the kickoff. Ronald Reagan to a lesser extent, but politics is now selecting for clever people over smart people. And because of this we're not deliberating anything. Everything's an instant hot take and it's a world that favors the clever over smart. And I was just nodding and agreeing with him on this thing. And what Clinton did was merge entertainment and politics, so that public policy is sold to us as political entertainment to a certain extent. And, you know, we saw this with Obama, we saw this with Biden to a lesser extent,
Starting point is 00:37:36 and frankly we probably see it with President Trump too. Donald Trump, yeah. Yeah. And he wrote, and I thought this was a great piece, he says, you see this with the crisis in the Middle East. The people who caused the crisis quickly moved to the next bit when their first scheme failed. There's been no discussion of what they did or even why they did it beyond the emotive gibberish which is intended to set up the next bit. The people who were wrong about the decapitation strike and wrong about the response are now
Starting point is 00:38:04 dancing around on the stage promising more good vibes with their next performance. In other words, we have nobody in charge right now, and I mean nobody in Washington, DC, or very few I should say, that think about, okay, we do this, what happens next? Right? Right. Lindsey Graham, every time he comes on, I just turn him off because I can't stand him because he's a warmonger and he doesn't think of what comes next. He just wants to do war and he doesn't care what happens. He really doesn't. Yeah. And I hope we can get away from this performative because it is about, you know, who gets the hit on Fox News? Who's on the talk radio show? Who's able to get the million followers on X? Who gets it, you know, rather than this?
Starting point is 00:38:47 When these are serious things that we should be deliberating instead of, hey, what's your... I really do think Trump is deliberate. I think this is really, really tough on him. I think he's smart enough to know that there's problems here because I know he's listened to his people. But yet he says that Tulsi... I wish we had a moussad here. Well, he said Tulsi Gabbard's wrong though. Yeah. Maybe, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah, I know. That's just it. But I think it's right. But this is starting to rhyme a little bit like 9-11 and 2003, you know, the lead up to invading Iraq. And it's like, oh, there's going to be the mushroom cloud, that there's weapons of mass destruction, yada, yada, yada. And it just feels spun up. And I just don't want to see President Trump, after having noisily and often campaigned on being the peace president, getting sucked into the sandbox again. I'm just concerned about that. Right. I think that's one of the reasons why he's... I just take a look at him and he... I can tell he's really, really troubled because he does not want to do this. And I think he's being whipsawed a bit too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Within the system. And there's immense pressure being brought to him right now. I know. Well, I appreciate your opinion on it. I appreciate both sides of the opinion here. Really I do. Let me go to another call. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Morning. Who's this? This is Mark. Mark, take it away. What's on your mind? Well, I had a question for you. Scratch my memory because it's terrible. Malcolm X, how long ago was that? I want to say late 1960s. I think it was assassinated in the late 1960s. Let me just look it up here while you're talking. But go ahead. Well, I have a quote on my work trailer and it's from Malcolm X and it says the worst thing for America
Starting point is 00:40:46 and for the black man is the white liberal. Now why would Malcolm X say that? Because he knew. And by the way, I just looked it up. Actually, he died earlier than I thought. It was 1965 that he was assassinated. Okay. Yeah. So that far back, he called it. All right. Thank you, Mark. Appreciate the call. 770-KMED. Let me grab another one.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Hi, good morning. Who's this? Yeah. This is Christian Dave from the Grands Pass. Hello. Hello, Christian Dave from GP. What's on your mind? Well, I ran in the Israel theater. You asked opinions, and I have an opinion.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Sure. I've been a Christian for about 45 years, and I often tell my son and friends that I know I'm a Christian because my enemies are still alive. So... That's an interesting way of putting it. Sure. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, about Israel and Iran, they both believe in the Old Testament and not the New, and that means eye for eye, tooth for tooth instead of the New, which teaches that we're supposed to turn the other cheek, love our neighbors as ourselves, and an abidance
Starting point is 00:42:01 is mine, unless said Lord." So, my suggestion to end the, hopefully end the theater, the war, is to send the bombers over with Jesus tracks and have them bomb out both countries with a bunch of Jesus tracks so they can get to the New Testament where we can have peace and civilization. That's an interesting take on it. It's an interesting take. I appreciate the call. Do you think that our government would be willing to bomb them with tracts though? That's a good question. Yeah, I know. But yeah, in an ideal world, everyone's heart would be changed. That's for sure. Okay?
Starting point is 00:42:47 Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. And let me grab another one. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hi, Cherry.
Starting point is 00:42:55 What's on your mind? It's about time for some good movies to see. You know, I don't really have time for the movie thing right now. Can we do that another time? Is that okay? Sure. Yeah, I'm just running a little bit behind it. I'd love to, you know, after 830 news I'd be able to do
Starting point is 00:43:06 that, no problem. Then we can have a palate cleanser. How about that? Do you have a take on the Israel-Iran situation? How deeply we should be involved or are you just talking about an entertainment right now? I'm going to talk about entertainment but no, we should have peace. Get the heck out of there. Forget it. Stop it. All right. Hey, we'll talk then the entertain a little bit later. I promise we'll get you on. Let me grab another one. Hi, Kamedi.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Who's this? No Jerry, go ahead. Hey, two things that concern me about Trump, but at least two recently that I've heard. One, he calls Tucker Carlson kooky, and in response to Tulsi Gabbard saying that they don't have a nuke, he said, I don't care what she said. So you know what, if I were Tulsi Gabbard, I'd just hand in my resignation right now.
Starting point is 00:44:04 You know, that's interesting that you brought that up. I was surprised about this too, because he chose her for a reason and I was kind of taken aback by that. Yeah. Anyway, I'll tell you what, our foreign policy is so out of whack. It's a good day for America to focus on America, in my opinion. All right. Thank you for the call.
Starting point is 00:44:31 770-KMED. I'll take two more, then we'll break for news. We'll have some more open phone time coming up after 8.30 news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is Minor Dave again. All right, Dave.
Starting point is 00:44:43 You want my opinion on Israel has the right to defend itself, and they can do that, and we should just stay out of it other than maybe peace negotiations. Well, the thing is though, Israel is rather dependent on us to supply munitions and money. Well, as long as they can pay in cash, sell them the weapons. But we don't have to send one soldier back to the Middle East for a war that's been going on for 6,000 years. All right, Dave, thanks for the call. I'll grab one more and then we'll wrap this segment.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? Hey, Bill. Hi. Steve and Sonny. Hi, Steve. What is your take on it? I'd just like to maybe point
Starting point is 00:45:27 to JD Vance's comment on the subject where he said if you listen to the entire Tulsi Gabbard interview, she said that they don't have it now but they have enriched uranium beyond what is necessary. For peaceful purposes. So they will have it. And he also pointed out that Trump has been very consistent that Iran could never have a nuclear weapon for the last 30 years, he's been saying that. So I think that's- Well, one of the reasons that Jimmy Carter reportedly deposed the Shah back in the late 70s was because if I recall correctly I think Thierry Meissen has a piece on Lou Rockwell about that, that even
Starting point is 00:46:13 the Shah at that point was grabbing I think from France there was a nuclear weapon he was trying to get from France because they were looking for Iranian hegemony at that time. But then we ended up getting something even worse than with the Islamic Revolution. But it seems like, but one of the challenges though is that every time we stick our finger in here we seem to get bitten more and I'm hoping that's not the case this time. We'll see. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I just think that JD Vance's ex-post was excellent in pointing out that there is, that Trump is listening to all of what Tulsi said.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Just the news is cherry picking and emphasizing what she said. All right, point well taken. I appreciate your call, Steve. Thanks for that. And we'll pick it up again here in just a little bit. This is KMED, KMED, HT1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. I've been running my business over 30 years.

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