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Episode Date: June 20, 2025

Supreme Court Transgender decision - I talk about this with Dr. Jared Ross, Do No Harm Medicine Senior Fellow. Open phones, D62 quiz and more wrap Conspiracy Theory Thursday.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Big, big decision. What happened to my music? Where's my music? Where's my music? There we go.

Okay. You got to have the bumper music, otherwise, you know, the system's not working. And I collapsed. It's 17 minutes after eight. Big decision yesterday from the Supreme Court of upheld a Tennessee law banning sex changes for minors. And it had an interesting take on this one. I wanted to talk with the senior fellow at Do No Harm.

That's Dr. Jared Ross. Jared, it's a pleasure having you on. Welcome, sir. Bill, thanks so much for having me on the show. If you don't mind telling us a little bit about Do No Harm First. Do No Harm, I kind of like the sounds of this. Is this about the kids, once again? It is.

We're a medical watchdog organization protecting medical institutions from the influence of identity politics and restoring public trust in medicine. And our two main issue areas are DEI, keeping that out of medical education, medical research and clinical practice, and protecting children from the harms of radical gender ideology. And that's what we've been fighting here

with the Supreme Court since December of last year. And we are thrilled by the ruling that they issued. What did the ruling actually say? Was it a judgment on transgender surgery itself, or was it essentially a judgment about procedure or something like that? I was just wondering if you could help us understand the ins and outs of this. Yeah, Bill, great question. What the Supreme Court did in a 6-3 ruling was upheld Tennessee's common sense policies

that protect children from medical experimentation. So Tennessee, along with 25 other states, has various forms of restrictions in place to protect children from this butchery that's under the thinly veiled guise of healthcare. And the ACLU, along with the U.S. Department of Justice under the previous administration, had sued the state of Tennessee and the Tennessee Attorney General,irmetti to overturn this Tennessee law and the Supreme Court said that Tennessee is allowed to to regulate these procedures for children. And I think what the Biden administration was trying to do legally was was demanding that the courts say that that the

Tennessee law would have to face much stricter scrutiny, I think is the legal term. Am I right about that, doctor? You know, Bill, I'm a physician, not a lawyer, but my understanding here is a question of whether children who are confused in their gender are protected, and that's unfortunately some of the language that we see from the three justices that dissented, most notably in Justice Sotomayor's dissent. Yeah, she was having a hissy about that from the looks of it, reading that. Now Chief Justice John Roberts more or less ruling that the state of Tennessee does have a compelling interest in protecting... in other words, it's really about

protecting children from themselves, saying that, okay, you're 12 years old and you're a female and you think you're a boy, and that you should just automatically get everything chopped up or added in and slicing and dicing and give me the hormones and all the rest of it and that children just don't have the long-term understanding of what this might mean. That's kind of what I'm reading out of this. What about you? Yeah, it's protecting children from themselves and again we protect minors in this country from a lot of permanent decisions whether that be getting a

tattoo or going off to war. We don't let people drink alcohol until they're 21 years old. It's also protecting children from radical ideologues, whether those be teachers, guidance counselors in the schools, whether that be misguided physicians or mental health providers, and increasingly social media influencers, unfortunately, that are getting into our homes and impacting our children. Yeah. And you can't tell me that all of a sudden, just over the last five years,

everybody went trans. You know what I'm getting at? It just seems to be that there has to be a social contagion or a mania aspect of this too that I think someday we're going to look back at this doctor and go, what were we thinking? How do you see that? Yes, I think we're really going to look back on this like we look back on the lobotomy, that we are maiming and mutilating children because of a feigning mental confusion. And we know that most children will grow out of this if they're simply allowed to go through a normal puberty.

Many of those children may go up to be gay or lesbian or bisexual, but they will grow up with intact bodies and intact endocrine systems. And instead, we are sentencing them to be lifelong patients. Yeah. Dr. Jared Ross once again is a senior fellow at the Do No Harm group. Do No Harm. I appreciate your work there. Now, the state of Oregon is taking a dim view of this decision, as you can imagine, and

the progressive controlling factors here more or less come out. And they're talking about doubling down. Is that uncommon, you think, over in the blue states, especially in the hive mines out here on the West Coast and maybe the East Coast? Bill, it's unfortunate, but I think we're going to see a lot of this. There's 14 states plus the District of Columbia that have shield laws in place that actually shockingly say that minors have a right to have their bodies mutilated.

Many of these states use taxpayer dollars to pay for it. Many of these states even get involved into custody issues, taking children who run away to that state, to the state, and protecting them, allegedly, from their own parents, keeping them in the state and providing these medical and surgical procedures to them. I've had the opportunity to speak with a child, actually, who was trafficked in Oregon, actually, into this and had his testicles removed. And he has come to deeply regret this. Oh boy.

And once you do that, there's no coming back, right? You know, once you do that. And there's a part of this agenda that I can't help but think of. It just reminds me of every and I know this is a this is a conspiracy theory Thursday theory I'm going to throw at you doctor I know that you're probably not into the into the theories but it feels as almost like this is part of that whole clout Schwab sort of agenda in which we need to reduce the population and it's like, you know, you reduce the ability of

a certain percentage of the population to breed and breed naturally after a while. You ever think that might have some bearing in the behind the scenes push for this kind of a deal, you know, getting people not able to reproduce any longer? I think there's unfortunately a lot of ideological motivation behind this, people wanting to destroy reproduction, destroy the nuclear family, just defy reality. There's this idea that we define our own reality and that people want to, you know, divorce themselves from actual reality. And so you've got a lot of, unfortunately, sick minds who are pushing this agenda onto our children for various different ideological

and financial reasons. But at the end of the day, it's really about protecting the children. What is the saddest story that you've come across in all the years of running over at Do No Harm? Because what the progressives in Oregon will say is that if you don't have this gender affirming care, they'll kill themselves because they're mentally ill and they're going to kill themselves because their outer body doesn't match what their inner identity says. So this is how I think that they, I think this is also how they convince parents, well, if your kid says this, if you're going to be a good parent, you got to do this.

So they're going to get you into Oregon Health and Science University where they make millions a year doing these kind of stories and these kind of surgeries and making artificial genitalia, coming up with ways to do this. I mean this is big, big business over at OHSU I would imagine. And you said you talked with one. We have a database, our Stop the Harm database that's available to your listeners at StoptheHarmdatabase.com. And yes, OHSU is unfortunately up on that list. This suicide myth has been widely dispelled. Chloe Cole, one of the detransitioners who works closely with us at Do No Harm, has spoken

about this. And what's even more atrocious than the fact that this is just a lie and has been disproven by the CAS review, by a Swedish study, by research here in the US, is that we don't in medicine do anything under the threat of suicide. If people are threatening suicide, we make sure we protect them, keep them safe, and address these very serious underlying mental health issues. We don't provide any sort of medical care under the threat of suicide. What would be next that we would start giving ozempic to anorexic girls if they threatened suicide? You know, that's a very interesting point. Or if my son, when he was a little kid, you know, he wanted

to be a dinosaur, right? I want to be a dinosaur. Well, you better turn me into a dinosaur and start implanting some plates in the back or I'm going to kill myself dead, right? And of course, the system would say this is nonsense. You're mentally ill. But there's been a strange exception made for gender dysphoria, isn't there? Very odd. It has been an incredible exception where we require medicine to cater a buffet to the whims and desires, the ever-changing whims and desires of children, right? We don't let children pick their own bedtime. But we let them pick from a buffet of puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and different surgical procedures to mutilate their body, knowing that their brain is still

developing and that most children will grow out of it. Is there any study of adults who have gone through the so-called transition, Dr Dr. Ross in which it seems to work pretty well for them. I mean, I still look at Caitlyn Jenner and he she looks like the most unhappy individual on the planet still every time I see this individual. And I can't help but wonder if, you know, there's always this attempt that, hey, I'm going to match what my inner self thinks it is and it doesn't seem to fix it, but I don't want to throw that completely under the bus because when you're doing it as an adult,

you're not doing it to kids, you're doing it as an adult yourself. Any evidence of that? Anything you can comment with that? Well, Bill, what I will say is we know from the research that the children who are struggling with gender confusion are suffering from mental illness, whether that be depression, anxiety, eating disorders.

We know that a large proportion of these children are on the autism spectrum. And we know that the roots of this experimentation with children started in the Netherlands. This started with Dutch researchers seeing that these adults were unhappy and that they weren't able to live their lives as the opposite sex. And they said, well, maybe if we start doing this on children before they've gone through puberty, maybe we can make these people happy. Yeah, you get better results. That was the claim then, or at least the theory.

And they started a very rigorous protocol with extensive mental health screening and family screening that was then adopted across the world and here in the US, but all those guardrails were subsequently taken down as so-called medical gatekeeping. And even what we've seen with the Dutch protocol is the Dutch have reversed course on it. They've said, no, this doesn't work. We can't accurately identify these people. And even when we do, it doesn't seem to make them any happier. And I think the reason behind that goes back to basic biology, that no matter what you do to mutilate your body, you will never be a member of the opposite sex.

You will simply have some body parts that mimic members of the opposite sex. Yeah, I remember reading some stories about some adults who have done the transition, and then it's like you'll have a trans woman, which of course means a woman who is a man, talking about how upset they were because Regular biological men did not necessarily have all that much interest And it's just like it's almost like you're bigoted if you don't believe me, right? Isn't that a kind of a kind of a strange? Strange way to approach this and then very upset very upset about it Yes, there's you know this ideology requires a buy-in And very upset, very upset about it.

Yes, there's, you know, this ideology requires a buy-in, right? It requires that we all buy into this confusion, this delusion of children who are confused about their sex and that we call them by a different name and use different pronouns, that we essentially are being forced to lie to them to make them feel better. And at the end of the day, it doesn't seem to matter whether or not we play into these fantasies, they still struggle mentally and physically and many of these children come to deeply regret these irreversible medications and surgeries.

Dr. Jared Ross, once again, he's a senior fellow at Do No Harm. Doctor, I wanted to go back to the Oregon Health and Sciences University take because a big part of your work over at Do No Harm is to reform the medical schools. This is something that you've been talking about, this ideology which infects it. And I bring this up because the Medford City Council is in the process of negotiating some sort of a deal with Oregon Health and Sciences University to actually have a medical school built in Medford.

And of course, that sounds really pleasing, you know, given when you think about the physician shortage, but then I couldn't help but remember that Oregon Health and Sciences University has not just doubled down and tripled down, but quadrupled down on this kind of surgery and doing it with children. And is that culture ultimately going to infect what is brought into Medford if the city council says, all right, let's do this to a medical school. Are we just gonna have another bad medical school

with woke doctors coming out of it? Bill, it's really a challenge in the medical schools. A lot of our effort is focused there because that's where our future doctors are initially indoctrinated. And it's not just the gender ideology for children, but we also work on the DEI aspect, combating these illegal policies that put skin color and sexual orientation above merit and discriminate against Asians, whites, and Jews. And on the Jewish front, we're also seeing a huge amount of antisemitism in medicine as well, that doctors are overrepresented among antissemites. Is the entire medical system at this point under this ideology or is it only,

let's say, the American Medical Association style of medical school? And I don't know if there are different ones. Could you comment on that? Yeah, Bill, it's the vast majority of medical schools across the country. I think there are some exceptions, some schools and state legislatures that have worked very hard to rid their schools of this ideology, but it is really infected our medical ideology and it doesn't represent the average physician. I think that's important to keep in mind. The American Medical Association only represents 10 to 15 percent of physicians. They love speaking on behalf of... Yeah, but they set the rules. It seems like they set the rules

for everybody. It's kind of like the American Bar Association, which is also a very woke snake pit of DEI activity. Yes, it is absolutely a vocal minority that has a lot of control here and that's leading this charge. And that can be the AMA, the American Medical Association. We see this with the American Psychiatric Association as well, American Academy of Pediatrics. We've seen all of these organizations come out yesterday and today speaking out against this Supreme Court victory. Yeah, which makes me wonder then if OHSU is going to be involved in running a medical school down here, are we going to get just more of the same at this point in your

opinion? I don't know if you can comment on that or not, but that is something that just stuck out to me like a sore thumb right now. Although OHSU being a research hospital has, you know, an amazing, you know, has some amazing cancer treatments going on up there and various other things, but they also do, you know, gender changing too, you know, that kind of thing. So I think you get the bad with the good, unfortunately. Yes, and we've got our work cut out for us to continue this fight in states like Oregon and eventually get these procedures banned nationwide. That's the goal. That's really what you're working to do then.

Absolutely. And Europe has done it. South America has done it. We are lagging behind here. I hesitate to say that the US should follow Europe's lead, but this is a situation where that's clearly the case. Well, the interesting part about it is that this came out of Europe to start with, as you're talking about. And then they went down the rabbit hole and found out that it wasn't good for the kids, and it caused more problems than it solved, apparently, and they wised up.

And I guess out here in the West Coast we have yet to wise up. I'm speaking with Dr. Jared Ross from Do No Harm. He's a senior fellow there. Caller, I haven't had a chance to talk to you first. Did you have a question for the doctor about this topic? Good morning. Hello? Bill, good morning. Yes, do you have a question with Dr. Ross about this? I do. You know, this isn't something that you've been talking about directly, but you know, Bill, you know that recently we had six highly trained marathon runners that less than 36 years old dropped dead in just the last two weeks. Yeah. So, is

there, I mean, is there a place for discussion about the ongoing damage for possible vaccine injury? Marathon runners are some of the most highly trained athletes on the planet to run 26.2 miles competitively. We just had six of them drop dead in less than two weeks. What's going on? Oh, doctor, I don't know if you get into that, but it's kind of going down the same sort of consensus-based medical opinion everywhere, a lot of that driven by the American Medical Association. Is that something you felt comfortable about or do you stay away from that at the moment? Bill, I'm not aware of this marathon issue. It's, I'd say, outside my area of expertise. Okay, fair enough. I had a feeling that was going to be the case. Sorry about that, Brad. Maybe we'll

talk about that later. All right, where can people find out more about this? And I hope that you are successful in getting more people to reconsider. The rest of the world is starting to look at the United States as saying, what are we nuts? Maybe we are continuing to double down. Maybe this Supreme Court decision will be the beginning of a change. But do no harm. Where do you go? Find out more. Bill, I invite your listeners to visit our website. It's do no harm medicine dot org. Do no harm medicine dot org. And membership is free. We welcome medical professionals, parents, teachers, policymakers, and

concerned citizens. There's absolutely no cost to join us. I really appreciate your time and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Be well. Thank you, Bill. Take care, Dr. Ross. It is 839 at KMED, 770-5633. growing now proudly serving Brookings, Gold Beach and the entire southern Oregon coast. They specialize in the best of the best. Last long get yours before they're gone. Sponsored by KTVL channel 10 skillet July 18. Get your tickets now and get ready to rock the night away. You're here in the Bill Meyers show on one oh six three KMED.

By the way, if you missed this earlier when I first played it, Six O'Clock Hour, these were the Black Divas. Black drag queens that were dancing on the floor of the state legislature. That's what they were doing yesterday to try to get an HR3 did pass. I think there was even one Republican vote that I'm aware of. And Kevin Mannix, Kevin, once again, what are you thinking? But, uh, Tra, one of the state reps that was actually pushing this was speaking about the need for HR 3, you know, in other words, honoring black drag queen

activity here. And of course, Oregon is now being talked about nationwide for this. And deep gratitude and recognition to the incredible drag performers who joined us this morning. Aqua Flora and Isaiah Esquire is joining us on the House floor today. In addition to all of the LGBTQ plus folks in the building, your presence, artistry. OK, wait a minute. In the building. Your presence, artistry-

Okay, wait a minute. In the building? All right. Is that like pushing the button? Your presence, artistry, and courage are a powerful reminder of the joy, resilience, and cultural impact of drag in Oregon and beyond.

Thank you for sharing your light with us this morning. It's an honor to have you here. Happy Pride Month. Now, you know, if you want to dress up as a guy, dress up like a woman and go out and do your thing, all right, it's a free country. But the idea that the state legislature needs to honor this and put some juice behind it, isn't that a little odd? Do you have any issue with that? You know, it was a long tradition of drag, period, but on the floor, on the floor, doing the dance and dancing around with the pride flag, it was quite the spectacle.

I have it on my Facebook page yesterday, and it was a state representative, Dwayne Younger. And Kevin Sterrett, you know, he, he, um, text messaged me from Oregon Firearms. He says, Oh my gosh, we got drag queens. They're dancing on the state floor. In the capital. I said, I know, I know, Kevin. I knew this was coming up. HR three. So, uh, that has been done very, very interesting times here.

Interesting times. But once again, the Republicans are still there! There were still enough Republicans present there to provide quorum! I'll tell you what, let's set that aside here at the moment. Let's talk about some American history back in a day in which men were men, women were women, and there was very little confusion about such matters. And children did not come to their parents and say, Daddy, I feel like a girl and I want to become a girl. At that point, Dad usually said, shut up, son, and dealt with it.

And it's a phase that you'll get over. But it's going to be a time going all the way back to, gosh, what was it? The War of 1812. That's what we're going back to right now in the Diner 62 Real American Quiz. 770-5633-770KMED. Over at Diner 62, you know it's amazing food if you've ever been there. And if you haven't gone there yet, well then you don't know what amazing diner food is. Go over there. Diner 62, just south of White City. All right? If you haven't won this

in the last 60 days, you could win it next. Multiple choice, and we'll get you on in just a moment. Attention property owners and pro-landscapers. Zoll's lawn and garden equipment. moment. The Diner 62 real American quiz. You know at Diner 62, remember Clam Chowder Friday is tomorrow? So good you'll think you're on the Oregon coast. Right? Couple of pork chops and eggs or eight ounce New York steak and eggs on

special right now on the weekends and they have that half ham special still on 11-15 Monday through Friday during the morning morning show six to nine over diner 62 Troy is here hello Troy you want to take a stab at this this morning Troy it might help if i hit the right button i thought i hit it good morning Troy hello all right hey Troy war of 1812 begins and it was yesterday June June 18th, 1812, even though today is Juneteenth, all right? Now, the day after the Senate followed the House of Representatives in voting to declare war against Great Britain, President James Madison signs the declaration and the war of 1812 is on. It was opposed by

pretty big minority in Congress had been called in response to the British economic blockade of France, the induction of American seamen into the British Royal Navy against their will, and the British supporting the Indian tribes along the Great Lakes frontier that were making life miserable for us. But in the months after President Madison proclaimed the state of war to be in effect, American forces launched a three-point invasion of Canada. It wasn't successful, unfortunately. In 1814, with Napoleon Bonaparte's French Empire collapsing, the British were able

to allocate more military to that American war, and DC fell to the British in August. Now in Washington, British troops burned the White House, the Capitol, and other buildings in retaliation for the earlier burning of government buildings in Canada by US soldiers. So for the win here Troy, a particular naval battle turned the tide of war for the United States. It wasn't going well for us up to that point, but where did that tide turning take place? Was it A, the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of America, if you want to call it that. Was it B. Lake Ontario? C. Boston Harbor?

D. Lake Champlain? Or was it E. The Battle in Lake Erie? What do you think? It's one of those five. Gulf of America. You're thinking of the Gulf of America would be appropriate. Not this time. I'm sorry, Troy. So it's not Gulf of America or Mexico. Let me go to Chris. Hello, Chris. How are you? I'm sorry Troy. So it's not Gulf of America or Mexico. Let me go to Chris.

Hello Chris. How are you? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm doing great. So let me scratch off Gulf of America or Mexico. So this tide turning in the war of 1812. Lake Ontario, Boston Harbor, Lake Champlain or was it Lake Erie? Boston Harbor, Lake Champlain, or was it Lake Erie? Lake Champlain. Lake Champlain. You psychic? You think that's what it is? Yeah.

You're a winner! You got it, Chris. It was Lake Champlain. Yeah. In September, the tide of the war changed when the American naval forces won a decisive victory at the Battle of Plattsburgh Bay on Lake Champagne, the British Army forced a retreat back into Canada to lick their wounds. And by the way, British Army sailing the Gulf Coast were not informed of the treaty in time,

and on January 8th of 1815, U.S. forces under Andrew Jackson got the greatest American victory at the Battle of New Orleans. The American public heard of Jackson's victory in the Treaty of Ghent at about the same time. And we had, yeah, we were feeling our oats at that point. So 1814 took a little trip, you know, like the song read, okay? So I'll tell you what, Chris, we're going to send you to diner 62. That'll put a... Wonderful.

Now, Chris, will that wash the image of drag queens dancing on the floors of the State Capitol though the other day Never ever it won't wash that away. I Was trying to know I was trying to help you. I was thinking that way Yeah, it it just doesn't know you can't make that stuff up about Oregon Can you it is conspiracy theory Thursday 7705633. This hour of the- Get started at KMED.com. Click the Advertise Marketing tab. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Meyers

Show. Darren, it's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. You wanted to comment on the amazing performance of the Black Drag Queens on the floor of the Oregon State Legislature, and the rest of the country is just... okay they're kind of laughing at us okay all right I was gonna say yeah they're praising us but what are you thinking about that huh? Well Bill I'm I'm very troubled and I'm troubled just to hear like the tone of the way that was addressed on the floor of the legislature. And that couldn't help but think of the verse in the Bible,

Proverbs, I think it's 1434 that says, righteousness exalts a nation, and sin is a reproach to any people. And so what I find is I think we're kind of exalting sin, and I'm afraid we're going to suffer reproach as a result. You think so, huh? Yeah. I think we're there already. Yeah. And what is, well, what concerned me most too, and also Darren, is that this is the same group, and this is the, you know, House Democrats that have been holding the wildfire map repeal bill.

You're familiar with that? Remember Jeff Goldin ended up falling on his sword negotiating to get rid of that wildfire map? Remember that? Remember that story? Yep. All right. It's been bottled up in the House right now because the whole thing about the House is that they want to steal the kicker in order to get rid of the wildfire map. And it's like, oh wait wait a minute. Okay. So you guys hurt us at first with Senate Bill 762. You hurt us, you damage us, and then you want to damage us more in order to do the fix. And I gotta tell you, I'm surprised that there aren't more torches and pitch

forks, I think, being brought forth to bear over at the state legislature right now. But I guess we got plenty of drag queens right now. Yeah, well I'm glad you mentioned that because I've recently got an email on that. I don't know if the listeners have looked into it. I encourage them to look into it. But the whole thing about the kicker, the people that make more money pay more tax, and the way they they've got a sliding scale that's inverted on that, that the more you make the less you get back in the kicker.

And basically it's a redistribution of wealth or in other words legalized theft. And again I think it goes back to prove my point, what I was talking about, with that verse. Darren, I appreciate your comment, and thanks for making it, alright? Be well. You're welcome. 857. from the most luxurious patios and gazebos to restaurant seating areas to warehouses. These custom made motorized screens and vinyl panels are a permanent solution to keep best wind and rain out so you can

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Instead of having Black Queens drag queens dance, how about having some success stories? You know, black men and women that become doctors and nurses and teachers, you know, children that are excelling in school, you know, something like that. Yeah, it does seem to be a strange subset of the black population to be having to recognize and honor it. I'm with you on that one, Carolyn. My email is bill of Bill Meyers show.com. You have great Conspiracy Theory Thursday. We'll talk tomorrow.

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