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Episode Date: June 21, 2025

Morning news catch up and Tommy Aiello from the National Taxpayers Union analyzes the Big Beautiful Bill and talks about the changes, what could make it better.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clouser Drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning and welcome to Find Your Phone Friday 7705633. Although we're relatively guest heavy today because there's a lot going on, a lot going on and still things happening over in the state legislature. E. Warner Reshke wanted to come on.

And of course, he's a state rep from the Klamath Falls area. And he's going to well, he reached out to me last night. Says, Bill, like to talk about this amazing one point two something billion dollar tax increase the Democrats are wanting to voice on everybody. Yeah, it's all the transportation and so much more. And it is big and it's a huge thing. And of course, the one thing I'm going to ask E. Yeah, it's all the transportation and so much more and it is big and it's a huge thing and Of course the one thing I'm going to ask a Warner is going to be every other Republican I ever talked to it's like, okay

they're they're coming after you good and hard you have one tool and that is getting together and deny quorum and State Representative Dwayne Dwayne Younger is walking out as of tomorrow because as of tomorrow, tomorrow, apparently there's no way you're going to run afoul of the unexcused absences, not doing your job thing, from the stupidly voter-passed measure 113 voters who just couldn't look past their nose, I guess, and think of the bigger picture involved. I mean, denial of quorum is one of these last gasp, a Hail Mary sort of things when you have a terroristic majority party manhandling you

and just essentially servicing you like a bull services a cow, that kind of thing. And that's where we are in the state of Oregon. Okay, what are you all doing there? Why are you still there? Kevin Sterritt writes to me, he says, all the gun bills, they're moving today. All the gun bills moving today, maybe early next week, and they're going to try to get it all crammed in there and passed right away.

All you can do is stop the process. You're not going to send enough emails to Democrats to say, you know, like the Emily McIntyre deal. Emily McIntyre, well, if you just reach across the aisle and you show them what great people you are, they'll agree to stop passing their bad bills. No, no they won't. I wish they could. It's about power, folks. And the GOP at this point has not been able to unite and do power politics all that well. I'm sorry, I hate to say that. And I know that a lot of it is due to people like Javade out on the coast and Kevin Mannix. Kevin Mannix, I don't know, maybe he wants

to run for governor again. And so, you know, he's out there and voting for that HR3 for the dancing prancing black drag queens that were on the house floor the other day. Maybe you're thinking, well, if I'm going to run for governor again at some point, then, well, I have to bend the knee for Oregon's one true faith. That is the true faith. Well, there are actually two competing faiths in the state of Oregon. One of them would be climate change, human caused, destroy the economy, and then will save the earth.

That's one. And the other one is, well, whatever LGBTQ wants, LGBTQ gets it. Boy, you better not get in the way of that, of that getting. All right. And I think maybe that's what what Mannix is really all about. Really? You're wasting time on that kind of stuff. Just bizarre. So anyway, we'll talk with E. Warner, and I'm still gonna have to ask him,

E. Warner, why are you still there? Why are you still there? Buddy, love you, here. A little bit of, if I could put my telephone arm around him and say, why are you all still there? You can walk out now, and then you negotiate to come back in after they kill the worst of the bills, including the $1.2 billion tax increase they want to give everybody, and then throw the money at ODOT.

That will probably waste the money too. But you know, wash, rinse, and repeat. There we go. Okay, biggest national story as far as I'm concerned right now. Yeah, I know they're still talking about President Trump says he's going to take up to a couple of weeks to decide what to do about Iran. But I think more importantly though is what happened in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals because this is about the injunctivitis that has been going on in the United States ever

since President Trump ended up becoming president second time around. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has issued a ruling on the Trump administration's motion for a stay. And the court granted the motion, meaning that the National Guard will remain under federal control for the time being in California. And shortly after President Trump issued orders federalizing the Guard in response to the LA riots,

and Newsom ends up filing a suit in federal court to block the move. And he filed the suit in the northern district of California rather than in the central district which serves Los Angeles. And Judge Charles Breyer then issues the temporary restraining order, ordering the return of the control of the Guard to the state. And within hours of that ruling then, a three- at the ninth issued a temporary stay and so ninth circuit rules in favor of Trump on this one. I think that is very very good news. All right. All right there's another interesting I got a press release from the Oregon Nurses Association. Now of, I used to get a lot of email during the

the strike, the Providence strike there, and I had my issues with what was going on with with people arguing with their boss because I was concerned about, well, what's the health of Providence Health? The actual health system itself, is it going to be able to handle it? By the way, it's still not really making money. I don't think Asante is really making money either. I know they're nonprofit, but I mean, they're actually losing money on providing health care because of poor reimbursement from Oregon Health Plan and various other insurance. They're having difficulty getting paid. Medical, one of the few industries out there that's told, well, you know, we could just decide what we're going to pay you no matter what it actually costs to provide the service

and you just kind of got to lump it, that kind of thing. But the Oregon Nurses Association releases this about the Supreme Court decision we were talking about yesterday on Conspiracy Theory Thursday, United States v. Scrimetti. That's the one about the Tennessee transgender law, you know, the law that said that you're not supposed to, you're not allowed to perform transgender surgeries, these transitions on minors. And the Supreme Court said,

yep, we agree with Tennessee. This is perfectly okay. There's nothing unconstitutional about it. There is a state interest in not having minors and their idiot parents making decisions that they really can't comprehend the long-term impact of it. And also the fact that so often these kind of surgeries go wrong and you're just going to be a permanent medical patient trying to keep various orifices, well, I don't want to get scatological, keeping various artificial sex orifices open and functioning. Okay, we'll just kind of

leave it at that. Hopefully it didn't upset your breakfast. But this is what the Oregon Nurses Association said, the Oregon Nurses Association, ONA, is deeply disappointed by the US Supreme Court's decision to uphold Tennessee's ban on gender-referring care for minors. This ruling directly... Now, see, check this out. Listen carefully to their wording. This ruling directly contradicts the overwhelming medical consensus. You know what medical consensus is? That's a bunch of woke doctors and nurses getting together that have a political agenda, an axe to grind, and we agree that this is what needs to

be done. Medical consensus. It's a consensus. It's kind of like the consensus on climate change. Well, we can't prove it, but we have a consensus of various scientists that they agree that it's done this way. Well, the nurses are kind of down this rabbit hole too. The Supreme Court contradicts the overwhelming medical consensus and disregards decades of scientific research supporting this care as safe, effective, and life-saving. Those decades of scientific research are now being rolled back because the more recent research, in fact you have the European Union that says no to this, you have the Netherlands where a lot of this stuff started. Remember I talked to the

do no harm people yesterday? You know one of the senior fellows from that group, do no harm, they're always about trying to get the medical system unwoke. He says all of these other countries that started doing the transgender craze before we did are all going, oh man, this is bad. This is bad stuff for the kids. Don't do this. And so they're banning it. And the Oregon Nurses Association is going down the transgender for all kind of thing. But yeah, the overwhelming medical consensus, when you hear that, all this is, is a bunch of woke leftists in charge of the ONA and the medical procedures in the state of Oregon, you'll just all get it together, well, this is our political point of view.

Oregon Nurses Association are very disappointed at that release because you're just doubling down on the insanity. Of course, there's also a good possibility they just doubling down on the insanity. Of course, there's also a good possibility they're doubling down on the transgender insanity, you know, coming out there, oh, we hate the Supreme Court decision because so many nurses are probably getting their salary from mutilating the kids over at OHSU, right? Yeah, I think that could be it. 20 minutes after 6 on KMED and you're on the bill myers show steven westfall roofing is growing now proudly serve height

and paul's ramberg valedry nursery and i'm on k m e d twenty two minutes after six and a little around the headlines a just reading this uh... press release from the organ nurses association the disappointed in the transgender decision and doubling down. I mean, the nurses, even the nurses, even the nurses. Drag queens on the state, the House floor the other day. And you even have a couple of Republicans voting for that. I think it was Javade and Mannix. And then you have the Oregon Nurses Association. Oh, we're

so disappointed that you're not going for the gender-affirming care. It's like, you know, because all we nurses, you know, we're all together in our union there. We can't wait to get into those operating rooms and provide the gender-affirming care and destroying the next generation of kids. Oh, wow. So, Tom, you're calling about the asylum, too. How are you doing this morning? Welcome.

Well, yeah, I feel overwhelmed by the asylum and what it's bringing to us and so forth. You would think the nurses, of all people, would have basic common sense about anything, but it's all this, the vokery that is destroying Oregon, whether it's climate crisis change or LBGQXYZ. You know, I'm thinking though, is it generational though? Is it mostly the the young nurses coming up out of this? Because you know, maybe the older nurses, the ones with a bit more experience, may have a little more nuance when they think about such medical procedures there. But you know, what's been happening, I think, with the younger generations is that it

has been so put into their mother's milk from day one in the educational system and the medical schools, like the gentleman from Do No Harm Medical talked about yesterday, the medical schools are just completely all in on the gender delusion and insanity and ignoring the tragedies. This whole concept that a 10-year-old child can make permanent decisions that could be destroying their life and end up regretting it at the age of 20. And then everybody else says, oh well we have to go along with this Tom, we got to go along with this, oh this is horrible. If you don't. Yeah well said Bill, you described it exactly and it's so true on so many levels and you look at this insanity that we're being subject to and even the 1.2 billion or whatever but it seems like basic

or whatever, but it seems like basic common sense, the function of the mind, is gone here in Oregon, and it's all wokery, and it's all... I'm struggling to find out just where it comes from, because it seems like it's not just time going by and modern times and so forth. I think there's an agenda from higher up. Oh yeah, it's been a plan. I also think part of it though, Tom, you know how you've talked about it being the money? So many times you come on the show and you talk about the Federal Reserve. By the way, Federal Reserve, one of the people there did announce that we're going to cut interest rates in July. Of course, not that that makes the United States a better investment possibility, but I'll just

digress, right? But the thing is, all of that created money that you talked about has been able to... how do I put this without violating FCC rules? Good challenge. Okay. This printed up money over decades over decades pays for a lot of stupid effery. Let me put it this way, okay? Yeah, it does, like in World War III now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And when you've ended up surviving on the grant stream funding T for all these years, it pays for all sorts of stuff that would make no sense if you were actually having to do it on your own or actually generate a profit on it or you

know convince people to get the service. And the medical industrial complex is part of that too now. And this is the consensus, right? Yeah, it's like the big money has taken over our government and it's using it as a tool to bludgeon us into their new world order. And then you have social media and the news media all designed not to have any deep thinking, not to have any real debate. Very superficial. Superficial, keeping everybody distracted and wound up over nonsensical things. And when people don't have a sense of history, a sense of place, and even a sense of quiet sometimes to be able to think something through and you're just on to the next disaster being shoved on you and scream from the headlines and the sound bites on X and everything else.

It's a bit of almost and a sea of insanity. Can you see any way to switch this around? Because we're basically up against a gazillionaires. I'm thinking, well, if I could do something right now, where would I say Big Meteor 2025 and a few specific capitals where a lot of this comes out of. How about that? I'm having fun with you. Having fun, right?

Yeah. What's it going to take to bring sanity back to Oregon? But I swear, I feel like literally Oregon's become a wall-to-wall insane asylum and you got all these deranged people going around making deranged decisions and imposing them on us. It's just everywhere I look, turn around and see, I mean, you know, you see the people driving around town in their car with the mask on and so forth, and just, the world is going through people's minds? Maybe it's just a phase and it's a...

It wouldn't have to be a phase. ...and a societal phase that at some point burns itself out. I don't have an answer for that right now. I mean, you try to help your people, but we're kind of talking at each other and not really communicating and breaking through. But of course, it's like so many other things. The progressive insanity is kind of like a fentanyl addiction too, to an extent where you're probably not going to get out of it or get over the insanity until you decide

you're tired of being crazy. Maybe that's it. Well, that means that we have quite a ways to, well, maybe not that far to go, but yeah, you kind of wonder where the bottom is. Yeah, like a drug addict. Yeah, like a drug addict is what I was getting at. In fact, you know, you can talk about all the drug treatment centers out there and people have discussed this with the homeless crisis that has been going on too. And most of the people who have gotten off the drugs and gotten off the streets have said, well, I

finally had to get to the point where, you know, I would love being sane and love being not crazy and love being better more than I love the drug. And so maybe that's where we're in this process. Oh boy, well I just kind of wondered how far we have to go. There's an article on Lou Rockwell today about if civil war is looming for us and it'd be awful to have to get to that point where you know we've become so divided by the elitist that we're trying to kill one another. It's just, I don't know, I'm just feeling overwhelmed.

Yeah, everyone's feeling overwhelmed. It's not just you. And every morning I look at the news headlines coming out of the media sources that are coming in here, and I'm just looking at this and I'm shaking my head. And every time you think you can't get more insane, it does. Especially in our West Coast states. The West Coast states are always like, hold my beer, right? The rest of the country. Thanks, Tom. Let me grab another call before we do this here.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is Jane, and I have a couple of points I'd like to make. Go ahead, Jane. Good to hear from you. What's up? Watching that jumping around yesterday was not doing their job.

Nine more days and they can't run again. Well, the thing is, I think it's tomorrow. Dwayne Younger is walking out of the state legislature. I don't know if he's walking out today. I think he said after Saturday he wasn't going to be in there, and he let me know that because there's no point in us being there just to enable the Democratic legislation by voting no. I'm hoping that the rest of the Republicans would walk out with him but it doesn't appear that way so far. Anyway what was

your other point? Go ahead. Okay after that mutilating kids, I think that it should be the law that if you're going to mutilate a kid or you talk about mutilating a kid, you should be mutilated first for at least three years and that includes the nurses association. Well, yeah, well the point is to be mutilated if you want to be, right? That's just it. But you know what I would, what I think would be really interesting is if every medical professional who is involved in any way on performing tranny surgeries on minors, all right, on kids, would have to post a, I don't know, you know, a million dollar bond or whatever it is in case that later on their gender affirming

care ends up going wrong. Now I know that what I'm talking about is most likely not legally possible, but I'm thinking in an ideal world because we're having a whole bunch of adults, Gene, that went through this surgery that are now regretting it, and there is all sorts of money and insurance and various other things to get the transgender stuff done, but very little to fix what was broken. Appreciate the call. 733 at KMED.

Almost like, okay, you really want to go transgender? Okay, fine, there has to be the ability to take it back too. I don't know. 633 we'll catch up on the rest of the news here in just a moment and then we're gonna talk about Trump's big beautiful bill. How is it faring in the Senate? What changes have been done to it? What changes should be going on? And it could be an interesting talk here. Gonna talk with... Available on wine and champagne only. Drink responsibly. B-21. It's the Bill Meyers show on KMED. Southern to talk with you and Jerry the Bull is here 7705633 I was talking with Tom a few minutes ago about what the real agenda is given that there is such

a distraction agenda keeping us all hot and bothered we can't really focus and and think deeply about a subject maybe even debate many subjects these days what are you thinking this morning Jerry the Bull? Morning. Bill, I was talking to someone just the other day and I said, you know, all this, I believe that the people who propagate all the BS that we consider BS, gender transitioning and all this stuff, I think they know it's a lie. I think they know it's absolutely false. So why do they do it? They do it because they have an agenda and they want us to believe their BS. That's my opinion.

That's my opinion. Who are they? Do you think they don't mind? Well, I believe part of it is the CIA. They run, according to a lady who served during the Reagan administration, she was in the room and heard the comment from William Casey to Reagan about what their real agenda was. And that's exactly what he said, that everything that you see or believe is a lie. Yeah.

In other words, the job has been accomplished when everything the typical American believes. I think there's a famous quote about that. Yeah, yeah. And the other thing is, Bill, I believe, as I forget the man's name, Joel Skalson, I guess. Yes. You know, part of it, I think too, why they do it, they want to discourage us. We're out of touch, you know, with modern times, Bill,

if we believe certain things. Yeah, if you believe certain things like boys are boys and girls are girls and they shouldn't have surgery performed on them. Alright, point well taken. Thank you for that, Jerry. Alright. Hey, we got a hold of him. I'm glad we have Thomas Aiello here. I was looking forward to talking with him this morning. He's the senior director of government affairs for the National Taxpayers Union because he wants us to, well, know more about what's going on with that big

beautiful bill. Thomas, welcome to the show. Good to have you on. Hey, good morning. Thanks for having me. All right. The big beautiful bill. I'm glad we're able to get these phone issues figured out then, but hey, electronics, what can we say? Now, where are we right now with the Trump legislation in the Senate right now? Is it being sliced and diced and improved or sliced and diced and compromised? Could you kind of give us a 50,000 foot view of this? Sure. So as your viewers probably already know, the House passed their version of the Trump

tax cuts last month. The Senate's working on their own. And earlier this week, one of the big Senate committees that deals with taxes and healthcare, they released their version of it. Now, the White House says they want this bill on the floor next week. It's a very, very ambitious timeline. And of course, they want this to work as soon as possible so that the House and Senate can combine their bills and get a final version on the president's desk by July 4th. So, that is happening right now. There's negotiations

happening between the Senate leaders and Senate leaders themselves. And then there's also this more wonky process where the Senate parliamentarian can determine what is allowed to be in a reconciliation bill and what is not allowed. So it's a dual track at the moment where you have the more wonky process and then you have the more political process. So both those tracks are working and we're hopeful that a bill will be on the Senate floor next week. All right. Are we talking about improvements? What things do you like about it so far? Maybe

some changes that have been done. What about the state and local taxes? I know there was talk about shaving down what the House had passed. The House had been looking at what a $40,000 limit on state and local tax deductions. That would be like our property taxes and Oregon's very high state income tax. And has that been chopped down? Do we know? So yes, it's been chopped down. What the House did was, as you said, it was a $40,000 cap. That's a quadrupling of the current cap that the President instituted back in 2017.

And this salt deduction, the state and local tax deduction, is really only used by taxpayers in very blue states. And these are very blue states that have very high taxes at the state level, but in very high property taxes too. And the thinking there is they can keep raising these taxes higher and higher and higher because their taxpayers can just write it off. And it's a very expensive deduction. It costs hundreds of billions of dollars in lost tax revenue. So what the House did is they quadrupled it to 40,000 that passed. The Senate, what they said is that's extremely generous.

It's going to cost about, I think, $370 billion. So it's very expensive. The Senate said, we're not going to go along with that. We think what President Trump did and the congressional Republicans did in 2017 is we were right to have it at $10,000. So they're keeping it there. We're hopeful that the final products will be closer to the $10,000. And that way we can use whatever tax revenue that would go towards the $40,000 cap, we can use that money, that $370 billion to either lower the cost of the overall tax bill, or perhaps lower rates even further and increase the standard deduction, or find other ways to give

all taxpayers more money in their pockets rather than just the select few in blue states. Thomas Aiello, senior director of government affairs for National Taxpayers Union. Thomas, what about the other ones that people were kind of getting all excited about? There was the no tax on Social Security. I guess they couldn't actually do no tax, but they were able to put in a deduction in the House version, it had to have been touched, and then there is no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. Is there anything being done with this? Is it still all right or not?

Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, our guiding principle is we just want a tax code that is as low as possible, as simple as possible, and, you know, one of your previous guests said you can't always believe what you see or what you hear, rather. I think we can all believe that taxes are too high and the tax code is too convoluted. And what the House did is with the President's campaign

promises on no tax on tips and no tax on overtime, it was uncapped, which means it could potentially be gamed. The definitions could be gamed where it could help big city lawyers with bonuses. There was potential for it to go to people that might not really deserve it. We want it to go to the legalities and the hospital. Is this what you're talking about in the analysis of advocating for guardrails on some of this? Because I was wondering how that would be. If all of a sudden I could ask my boss for, you know, instead of a pay raise, could you just give me a $20,000 bonus and we'll call it a tip, that kind of thing?

Is that what you're getting at? Yeah, that's exactly right. And the House, they tried to offer a definition, but it is, it's pretty vague. Now, what the Senate did is they said, you know, the definition is fine, but let's just cap how much you're eligible to receive. So I think on the numbers for overtime and tips, it's capped at $25,000. So, you know, when you take that into account plus the higher standard deduction, plus the lower rates across the board from the tax cuts, you know, you could have a sizable number of people in the hospitality space having zero tax liability,

which is what we want at the end of the day. And it actually protects the integrity of the tax code. But you're not going to have a hedge fund manager in New York City getting a big bonus and considering that a tax, or a tip rather, for tax purposes. I was wondering if there was any limitation on that because I could see all possibilities. You're thinking that you're protecting someone getting taxes at Red Robin, right? And then you... Yeah, and those are the people we want to protect. We can't give no tax on tips to hedge funds and big lawyers and then give them a $40,000 standard

assault deduction. That's really the definition of gaming the system. Yeah, by the way, what is the standard deduction going to be? Have you heard about this? Because I know that was a big change in the initial tax bill that Trump passed. It got passed a number of years ago and this was going to... is it going to actually go up? Is the current plan to actually take the standard deduction still and make it higher or not? Do you know? Yes, so the I would just preface this by saying in 2017, we doubled the standard deduction, no Democrats voted for it. And at the end of the year, it's going to be cut in half if the House and Senate and the president don't sign a bill. Okay everyone will be hit with a tax liability at the end of the year. Now, I think what the House and Senate do is they both increase it by about a thousand dollars. So

it's a small but significant increase for people. And then I believe the Senate bill, they index it to inflation. So it's very well might go up every year. Yeah. That's the situation that was always irritating when you okay you get a certain amount of deductibility on this but then you would see the inflation inflating inflating things out of existence over time and yet the deduction would remain the same. All right now do you have any idea how the Senate might be able to improve what's already been done after this point? Where you think the Senate bill should be going? So we were really happy to see a lot of the pro-growth tax provisions that the House included. They were

included on a temporary basis. We think they should be made permanent and we were happy to see that the Senate does that. They make it permanent. So that gives small businesses and other businesses the certainty they need to invest in America. And the changes made by the Senate actually, it doubles the estimated economic growth output of the entire bill. So even these very small changes have a huge impact on our economy. So we're continuing to advocate to have those permanent.

We're hoping it looks closer to the Senate bill than the House bill and then you know even further Improvements we want to make sure we keep that salt deduction as close to the current cap as possible And then just continuing to find ways to save money. I mean the bill saves about 1.5 trillion dollars over 10 years It's a really strong start, but we think there's more improvements that could be made to some of the Medicaid Provisions and you know general spending provisions that might be left on the table. So it's, you know, it's a strong step in the right direction in terms of savings. But I think at the end of the day, we need to continue to look at the rescissions that the White House will send over, make sure we get those enacted into law, and then take

a more holistic approach to our federal budget. That way we can continue to get to pre-COVID levels in terms of spending. Thomas, there was a big squeak about the House really wanting to phase out those green energy tax credits, you know, the giveaways to the big, well, the Green New Deal, et cetera. And I hear a

rumor that the Senate is balking at that and wanting to keep some of that grift going. What's the status of that? So the House bill, they completely phased it out, I believe, after 2027. That's a really, really important point. The Senate bill phases it out over a longer time period. So the credits will still be removed over time. It's just a longer runway compared to the House. And to your point, I think we just want fairness across the tax code and we want fairness across all the energy, all the individual energy sectors. So I think hopefully the final bill will be closer to the House bill that remains to be

seen. There's a lot of different viewpoints in the Republican conference and the Senate as it relates to it. But yeah, that's a significant sticking point at the moment. But I think at the end of the day, there'll be some movement to repeal the green energy, the green New Deal scam. But that remains to be seen as one of the big question marks that are looming at the moment. Is that an example of something which would really need a rescission rather than just the big beautiful bill kind of approach? No, that's a great question. I think it has to go through the reconciliation process, but you know these are expensive tax credits. They're going to cost I think it has to go through the reconciliation process.

But you know, these are expensive tax credits. They're gonna cost trillions of dollars over the next couple of decades. So the sooner that we can remove them and clamp down on them, the more money we'll save over the next few years. So that's why it's extremely important to remove them from our tax code as quickly as possible.

Thomas Aiello, senior director of Government Affairs for National Taxpayers Union. How can people read your analysis on this? Because you've got a good report on that. Best place to go get it? Sure. You can go to our website at NTU.org. That's National Taxpayers Union NTU. Or follow us on social media. We're on Facebook and X. All right, very good. Thomas, appreciate the talk. Thanks for the analysis, okay? Be well. Thank you. 652, this is KMED 993KBXG, Waking Up with the Bill Meyers Show. Good having you here.

This is News Talk 1063, KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers Show. Join the conversation at 770-5633 if you want it. Mr. Outdoors will join me here in just a little while. We'll talk the outdoor report. Boy, what a different feel in the weather this morning, right? What a difference a day makes. Yeah, it's going to be quite cool, showery a little bit later on going into, I think tomorrow is where most of the shower activity, but Greg will keep us up on that.

That's good news on actually putting out what's left of that upper Applegate fire, and the progress of the fire ended up being held so it doesn't appear to be expanding anymore. Greg will also give us the latest on that too. All right. At 6.54, let's do some emails of the day, which are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson and Central Point Family Dentistry, centralpointfamilydentistry.com. And if you need special dental equipment, let's say like a water pick, I bought one from Dr. Steve not too long ago, love it, and it's helping me save my teeth. I have one tooth in the back, it's got a really deep pocket, you know, like he says, Bill, you got to get that clean. So I've been working that. If you need specialized mouth washes or special toothbrushes and various other

things, you can get that equipment at his cost over at Central Point Family Dentistry. It's right next to the Mazelon Mexican Restaurant, Freeman Way in Central Point. OK, good people. I'm going to give an email today to Hans Albuquerque. Hans, I don't know who you are, but I always enjoy getting your emails and I love the gnome to plume. But it says, Bill, Social Security trustees say today we have nine years to go until the tank goes to 80 percent. Waste, fraud, and abuse stings a little harder now than half of the U.S. population will get a Medicare slash Social Security financial haircut pretty darn soon. But will that cold hard statistic change Congress's mind this month as they teeter on the brink

of dredging up five trillion dollars more debt via their pending big ugly bill? And what do you want to bet that government pensions don't get trimmed in nine years? Only we private sector knuckle-draggers. You think that's how they think of us, Hans? Private sector knuckle-draggers. You think that's how they think of us Hans? Private sector knuckle-draggers. You could be right. But anyway this is what Hans says. This is what we should do. Number one, remove former politicians from lifetime pension plans. I would agree. It should not be a career. Okay. Number two, retired government workers, not politicians, get either 80% of their pension or 80% social security.

Not both. They may argue that private sector retirees get both, but hey, genius, that's because the private sector actually produces the economy that breastfed you. And besides, does the public, quote, servant, unquote, get more than the master? He also adds, he or she, I don't know if it's a he or she, but anyway, Iran is a world threat bill but those fifth century throwbacks have fought the Hebrew nation since Abraham and always will. I support more isolationist fiscal policy regarding this war involvement. If peace through

strength is so awesome, then practice what we preach and just stick with saber-rattling. We don't need to bake a new big ugly spending bill cake nor Iran strength is so awesome, then practice what we preach and just stick with saber rattling. We don't need to bake a new big ugly spending bill cake nor Iran war frosting on the top of it. Can we just intensely focus on the public sector versus all the shiny objects to prevent a Medicare, Social Security disaster? Hans Albuquerque, Hans I appreciate your thinking on this one. Butch writes me about the Applegate fire.

I says, hey Bill, it's really interesting. I get emails from the Applegate folks yesterday. The message was to protest the Bureau of Land Management timber sale. The sale, of course, is intended to remove dead and dying trees. And of course, all the California transplants don't like that. And then I saw the fire over there. And yesterday morning I hear Greg talking with you about all the fuel that's over there. We complain about the BLM and the U.S. Forest Services for not doing their job, and then the folks protest them when they do. Butch from Gold Hill.

Appreciate your take on that too, Butch. Carlton says, Bill, I'm just laughter. I just had to send this paragraph to you. I think it came always about the KKRC. The quote, in addition to having cultural significance to the Yurok tribe, the Klamath River is crucial to the survival of commercially beneficial fish species like salmon, imperiled by rising global temperatures and human activities along the river, like the construction of dams. And then Carlton says, Bill, what global warming? I was warmer in San Francisco when stationed there. Two, only activity along the river now is tribal. And number three, commercial beneficial trucked in trout.

Sorry, that just sounds better. Okay, so commercially beneficial trucked in trout. Oh yeah, you're talking about the magic fish that made it up through all the soup, the soupy mess last year, right, Carlton? Always appreciate that. Dennis writes, Bill, about the Democrat Oregon House members celebrate black drag performers as nearly all Republicans boycott, not all of them, Dennis. You once again had Kevin Mannix and Jovadi, is it Jovadi? Yeah, I think Javadi. Cyrus Javadi.

But anyway, Dennis says, Bill, isn't it great to live in a state where the leaders are foolish fanatics following their most outrageous fantasies? Bob Shan from Medford writes this morning, Hi Bill, I'm going to do a cherry-cherry and recommend a movie that I watched last night, Spectral. The film focuses on a research scientist working on experimental tech for the military when he's summoned to help a group of special ops soldiers in Moldova. Climatic ending where it's a novel way of ending the threat. So you think that's a good one? And where did you get that? Oh, Netflix. Okay, I still have Netflix. So I was going to cancel it and maybe I'll watch that.

I'll get back to you on that one. Lynn writes in about a conversation that she and I had the other day and then some people responding to that conversation. Bill, your caller, after she was on, said that I was all for bombing Iran. She's putting words in my mouth. I said I was torn. She implied that I wasn't thinking what happens next. In a short phone call, I can't talk about everything. Let me ask opponents of Israel, what if Israel is telling the truth that Iran is near

getting a bomb? What happens if they use it? Do we really think we will escape horrific consequences of a nuclear exchange in the Middle East? How naive. Then we have Leaf who is writing about that sort of situation and has a different take on it and Leaf writes, China, China, China, like falling asleep. Synopsis, a rogue nation that stole nuclear materials, technology, and devices from the United States to build its arsenal of nuclear weapons in open defiance of the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty has now attacked another neighboring nation that has no nuclear weapons. open defiance of the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty has now attacked another neighboring nation that has no nuclear weapons.

And this Divine Lady is acting as if Trump has any other options except to cover for and obey his boss, King Netanyahu. See for yourself. Then he gives me a bunch of links here. Betty Martin writes me. Betty, I always appreciate your emails too. Medical school in Medford. This was, you know, we were talking about that the other day. I'm kind of intrigued by this. It would actually be a medical school you can train doctors but

she writes, boy howdy what a crazy idea. Now there is a place in Central Point that is Pacific healthcare. This sounds like a great place and most people could afford it. It would be a great head start for bigger and better things. Yeah, that's for... it's not training to be a doctor though, Betty. That's where you can go and become a phoblotomist and various medical technicians. Pacific Healthcare training, I think it's what you're talking about, right? But what she writes about, gave me pause, she said, OSU is nowadays a horrible place. Their website brags about cutting up young people. Yeah, the gender-affirming care.

That's what I was getting at the other day, Betty, when the city council is going lick-spittle for, hey, let's have OHSU partner and run a medical school. What? So we could do more transgender surgeries. Is that because they're still all in on that. Oregon Nurses Association, like I was mentioning earlier this hour or last hour actually, is saying we're so disappointed that you know they're not going with the medical consensus being the Supreme Court, right? Betty continues, if they put a school for doctors in Medford, you have to deal with

a huge piece of property for the buildings and infrastructure, upgrade the water and sewage, massive new housing to hold students and instructors, massive new road upgrades, plus new schools that both the instructors and students kids would want to be educated, and they would bring their family with them as they come in from out of town. My bottom line is insane idea right along with a baseball stadium. But you know, Betty, I have a feeling that the council or maybe the city fathers would look at all of these kids needing educated and everything else. And we go, hey, you know, that's it's kind of like if you can't get enough tourism for the for the balls for the ball stadium scheme, you'll have medical tourism. I don't know.

Betty, appreciate you writing the email bill at Bill Meyers show.com KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KPXG, Grants Pass.