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Dr. Carole Lieberman, Americas Psychiatrist, talks her take on the Iran attacks. Are we looking at a sleeper cell type thing happening soon? Your calls and opinion follow.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clauser Drilling dot com. Here's Bill Meyer. Tom Hallman talking about the border issue yesterday, and I think it's a germane to our conversation coming up. So we have a secure border. So that was President Trump's big win on securing this nation.

So we're not releasing people in this country. Special interests aliens aren't crossing that border undetected. But under Joe Biden, we had over 10 million people cross that border. But my biggest concern from day one, beyond the fat and all, beyond the sex trafficking women and children, were the two man known gotaways. Over two million people crossed that border. We don't know who they are, where they came from, because they got away, because border control is so overwhelmed with the humanitarian crisis that Biden created that over two million

people crossed the border and got away. That is my biggest concern and that's what created the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen. Okay, what's next is the question that I think a lot of people are asking this morning. Joining as dr. Carol Lieberman MD known worldwide as America's psychiatrist and Hey, just in time here. Dr. The terrorist therapist. How you doing this morning? Welcome back to the show Fine. Thank you. Yeah, I think that no matter where you come down I'm one of these guys that would have preferred more congressional involvement in something like this But we can disagree we can agree to disagree about these sort of things. One way or the other, I think the fallout that we are likely going to experience, and this has to go back to what

Tom Homan was talking about, is that we don't know these people who are here, we really don't. And I think this would be an interesting time to maybe avoid crowds. What are you thinking about this moving forward, at least for the near future? Well, first of all, yes, I guess I can agree to disagree because I think that that was very courageous of Trump to do it when he did it. And I think, you know, people who are saying we don't have proof, blah, blah, blah, really, Israel

has been embedded in Iran and spies, Assad, and all of that for years. And they have been clearly watching, carefully watching Iran gradually increase their ability to have nuclear weapons. And I think if they chose to go in at this time, you know, they didn't want to poke the bear, but if they thought at the time that now was necessary, then I believe them. You know, I think they're the ones who would know the best. Now, as far as what this means for us, you know, in terms of retaliation, I know there's some talk about maybe they're going to retaliate against our ships over there or close the waterway or whatever.

Yeah, there is talk about closing the Strait of Hormuz today. I know that the Iranian parliament, I think it's the parliament there, voted to accomplish that. I think they voted for that shortly after the bunker busters came in. Right. So, okay. But in terms of what people in America on the homeland have to worry about, you know, I think we need to, first of all, get our heads out of the sand, because a lot of Americans, most Americans are in denial of just how, how, before anything happens with Iran just this past week, how much danger we are in, in terms of terrorists. There are basically terrorists in our streets and there have been since October 7th.

You know, these, a lot of the people who are protesting either at the college campuses or off the college campuses really are terrorists. And so now with Iran being unhappy, a lot of these people, you know, some of whom are paid of course, not all of them are paid, but it is really, you know, there is a danger as far as, I mean, people shouldn't worry as much about a danger of nuclear war, Iran sending or Russia sending nuclear missiles to America, you know, because they're angry about what happened and so on. I don't think we should worry about that, at least not yet. But I...

That seems to have been taken off the table from what happened over the weekend. But that does not stop the, well, like what we saw in California when you had a couple of people here wanting to shoot up an area and some other people over here wanted to shoot up an area and put a bomb in there. What happened over in Boston, as we remember, wasn't that many years ago that what happened in those days, right? So really, it could, and there are, it's beside the two million getaways,

including them and the 80,000 Afghans who were moved here, flown here after Biden surrendered in Afghanistan. And there are enough people who have terrorist inclinations, let's put it that way, who could well decide that they are angry about what happened in Iran and could start, I mean, it is likely that there are going to be some attacks. I would be surprised if there weren't, frankly.

Right. And I'm just saying that because Iran's government, as far as affecting U.S. policy, has been relatively impotent, as we can tell what happened here. And generally speaking, that's when you end up awaking a sleeper cell or two, because the idea is to make the population want to stop doing anything. Would that be a fair assessment? Right. Yes. Yes. And it's relatively cheap to do, you know? Yes. Absolutely. And yes, it's a way of getting Americans to be against any kind of further incursion on Iran or any other territories.

or any other territories. But so unlike with 9-11, where we were all kind of just standing there with our jaws agape, we need to sort of wake up and realize that this could happen and why it's going to happen. And one of the things we need to do, I don't know about duct tape, I don't think that it's time for duct tape yet, and not that that did much anyway. Well, you know, we tend to live in a well in in southern Oregon here, doctor, unlike you in Los Angeles, we are, according to Joel Skousen, a pretty good place to write out a nuclear holocaust, if that were the case. But yeah.

But what we do need to start doing at and parents need and teachers need to realize that kids are more aware of what's going on than we give them credit for. And it is time to talk to them about terrorism and the truth about terrorism, not, you know, some, well, depending upon their age, but even, you know, in gradual pieces if they are young. But obviously, this is what I wrote my book for in 2017 yet. By the way, what's that book about? Because it's very appropriate for this time. Yes. It's called Lions and Tigers and Terrorists, oh my, How to Protect Your Child in a Time

of Terror. And it's both a book, half of the book is for parents and teachers, how to protect your child in his time of terror and it's both of a book half of the book is for parents and teachers You know how to talk to kids about it how to recognize or having some psychological reaction to what they know about it and also how to answer the most frequently asked questions by kids and then My favorite part is the part for kids. It's a picture book What is a terrorist? Why do terrorists want to kill us? You know a terrorist is like a bully on the playground how to how to get children to How to express their pages like draw a terrorist and then of course I show them Osama bin Laden

I mean it goes into the whole thing not really scary, but it's for kids five and up because five is when they start going to school. And they will have heard about this in school, if not from you as a parent. They certainly will be hearing about it in school because kids have older siblings or they have televisions on or the computer on in their house and they will be hearing something. So you can't just let, you can't just think that you're not going to talk about it because they don't have to know about it. You know, you don't want to scare them. Well, they're going to be a lot more scared, you know, when they hear about these things that they don't

understand. That is a lot scarier than you explaining to them what it really is all about. You know, if you were a betting woman, I don't know if you are, Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, once again here with me. If you were a betting woman, do you see a potential US terror attack as a reprisal to what happened in Iran? Let's just say, like I said, I would be very surprised to see nothing occur, all right? I would be very surprised, all right? I would too. All right, do you think that it would be more of a general attack on homeland in our United States, a football game, whatever, you know, just to pick up some big kind

of gathering, or would you look at this as more targeted to Jewish centers and such, again, how would you see this playing? Well, of course Jewish centers are the most in danger, but... Yeah, it's always on the market, right? You know, in this kind of thing. Yes. I mean, you know, my synagogue has security whenever we have some kind of... either just Friday night services or some holiday or whatever. And you're wise to have that. You are. Yes. I think about that church in Michigan over the weekend that had a shooter.

I was so, yes. I'm glad nobody, I don't remember now. I looked at it, but... Yeah, there was one person, one member of the congregation that was hurt, but the shooter ended up being killed by security. Yes, yes. So, you know, in a way, I'm sorry for the person who was hurt, but I'm glad that that happened at a church, because people need to realize that this is not just about Jews. Yes, Allah, according to the Quran and all of that, Israel must go first, must be destroyed first, and

the Jews. But it's not just them. They are the canaries in the coal mine. It is people, anybody who is a non-believer in radical Islam, anybody who, you know, a non-believer, an unbeliever. So yes, they're against the Christian people too. So that kind of, you know, I'm glad we, if he had to do it anywhere, I'm glad he did it in a church to get people to recognize that. It's just non-believers. So yes, we are, you know, I think that something or things are going to

happen. You know, I was saying this and we might have talked about this, I think we might have on New Year's, about the New Year's attacks. Remember there was that attack in New Orleans and I was saying then that 2025 was going to be the year that we were going to start seeing attacks again in, you know, regular old terror attacks at football games or concerts or, you know, places where there are people or, well, that was a ramming attack, which is the typical terrorist attack, the easiest kind of terror attack. You just get in the car or a truck and you, you know, go down the street. So yes, you know, it's, it's been building up. We had a reprieve because of COVID, because there weren't many people going to places

where there were crowds. But that doesn't mean that the terrorists have forgotten how to do it or forgotten that that is how they're supposed to please Allah. And so yeah, I think we're gonna be seeing more. So yes, what should people do? Well, the first thing is talk to the children. The second thing is, you know, I don't want to say...

I think whenever... I don't want to say don't go to any kind of a thing that is a crowd because, you know, part of what terrorists want is to stop us from enjoying life. So I don't think we should just give into that. However, we need to always be very careful and sit in a place, check out where we sit, check out the quickest way to an exit, check out, just look around us. Of course it's hard to tell because you don't know who's wearing a suicide vest underneath the clothes. Yeah, great. You know where I tend to draw the line here is that if I'm prohibited, I'm a concealed carry,

handgun license holder here in the state of Oregon, right? If you are required to disarm yourself in order to go into a particular festival or event, I kind of think twice about it because they usually don't have the level of security to really take out people that could show up and do bad things on something like that. To me, it's almost like you're making a shooting gallery for bad people. That's just my opinion. But... Well, you mean if people who have a permit are... But if they have people at the door checking you, I mean granted there's checking and there's checking. Some checking is a lot more thorough than others, and certainly people could get in with knives or explosives or something.

Well, to me, people that are going to attack an open air festival or something like that are not going to go through the check-in process. That's all I'm getting at. Well, yes, if it's open air. Yeah, well, that's kind of what I mean. We have festivals, we have open air concerts. Oh, no, no, no. You people with concealed handgun license people are the people to worry about.

We're the ones that... That kind of thing. I tend to steer clear of it for that reason. But to me, it's like making a nice big victim area. That's kind of the way I've tended to look at this. But quite well taken. And you're going to have a lot to talk about on your terrorist therapist podcast. When does it come out, doctor? You do that on a weekly basis or how often? Well, I'm going to probably be doing one today, you know, given the circumstances. Sure. And you can find it either on my website, which is terroristtherapist.com. You can find, I always love to direct people to my website because not only can you buy my book there as

well as on Amazon, but I want people to see the music videos that I created for the anniversary of 9-11 and the first anniversary of 10-7. That tells the whole story about what these terrorists are all about. And it's just on my home page, on my website. And then the podcast is there too, but wherever podcasts are found. All right, terroristtherapist.com. We'll put that up there too. Doctor, I guess now we can forget about the California wildfires for right now, right? It kind of recedes to the background now, doesn't it? Sort of. Well, you know, it's like there's so much coming down. Same thing with, you know, these people in our streets who have been protesting about all different things, people protesting, the past pro-Palestinian, pro-Gaza, and now anti-ice. I mean, people are

angry and they're out there. So the terrorists, you know, the new terrorists that are coming out there, you know, have competition. Indeed. Doctor, always a pleasure talking with you. Thanks for joining the show. Okay, be well. Thank you. Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, known as America's psychiatrist and terrorist therapist.com. 726. Changing weather norms means changes to water quality. Be sure your drinking water is safe. The highs and lows of water levels, increasing cases of contamination, and land use changes can all impact your water quality. The only way to know if your water is safe is to have it tested. Call on Grants Pass Water Lab for fast service, help understanding your results and affordable

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I don't know, if I were an Iranian, or anybody else really for that matter, when missiles come in from Iran to Israel, could I comfort myself saying, well, Iran didn't necessarily declare war on us right then. No, I know this is different. It's not the exact same thing. But to me, B-2s and Bunker Buster bombs and things like that, it's a little bit more than just a CIA assassination squad goes out and takes an individual person out. You've got to remember, Charles III and his brother, both of their... the third and third.

Okay, I'm kind of losing...trying to make your point again here, Dave, we're losing your cell phone out there in the Iron Gate. Go ahead. The point I got is... Okay. I'm sorry, we're losing you, Dave. I'm sorry. Gosh darn it.

Gosh darn it, Ted. And I know that we're told to put everything into the cell phone network until it doesn't work like that. Dave, maybe call back, find a better place, you know, point it towards a different cell. I don't know. I will let you know though what some of the people are thinking around here this morning and some emails of the day, emails of the day are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson at Central Point Family Dentistry, centralpointfamilydentistry.com. And while you weigh crowns available, good people there. Dr. Steve, he's my dentist and I've had a really good experience.

It's on Freeman Way next to the Mazatlan Mexican restaurant, centralpointfamilydentistry.com. Brent Way is in here. Bill, I agree with Trump on taking out their facilities and not informing Congress. I think it's as simple as this. You have to be realistic and understand that we have too many people in Congress such as Elon Omar whose loyalties are questionable at best. Going to Congress in my mind could have put our air crews at risk. So based on that alone I feel they had no choice but to leave Congress in the dark. What does, however, concern me is that we really know nothing about past presidents' relationships with Iran post-Shah from both sides of the aisle, how easily we forget about

Iran-contra, and what can only be called payments to Iran from two Democratic presidents in recent history. Neither Obama nor Biden were ever pushed on this topic. An acceptable explanation to the American people has never been given for those actions." All right, Brent, I appreciate that. As far as Congress, listen, if the president can say, hey, I'm going to make up my mind within the next couple of weeks, this is where I disagree with the people, you can't get Congress involved in something like this. To me, if the president can say on truth social, for crying out loud, and go out there and

say, well, you know, I'm going to make up my mind within the next couple of weeks what I'm going to do, all right? That is pretty simple. You go to Congress and you say, all right, in the next two to three weeks I'd like to possibly do something with Iran or possibly not do something with Iran. You're okay with this? Is Congress behind me on this one? Now I'd be willing to bet you on something that simple. It'd be a yes or no. Just a yes or no vote. This resolution. The challenge I think we run into is that we're running out of

ability for we the people to have much influence on this whatsoever. And I understand existential threats. I understand the difference. But could be, want to, is not the same as has. No one has talked about blowing up any ICBMs with nuclear warheads on them. Have you noticed that? Just saying. That's me though. We can talk about anything else on your mind too. 770-5633. Let me grab another phone call here rather before news. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Yeah, this is Dave from Red Fast. Dave, take it away. How you doing? Okay, yeah, fine. Yeah, my opinion is I'm not gonna judge whether the attack was wrong or right. But what I don't like is the fact that we have a situation where the tail is wagging the dog here, meaning

that Trump confided in Nathan Nahoo about what to do instead of the Congress. And that's, I don't like that. That's a very interesting perspective there. Well, that's kind of going down a little bit to what Thomas Massey was talking about. He says that the AIPAC has great influence on the American Congress anyway. So I mean, Congress probably would have approved it even if they had gone to him, wouldn't you say? Well, he should have, because talking over

with another country and getting his arm twisted by someone else besides talking over with Congress is not right. I don't like that. It's scary. All right. Dave, I appreciate your call. Thanks for checking in.

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DiCaprio movie. And I think this is one of the ones that Jerry was talking about body of lies It was getting ready to leave Netflix and I hadn't seen this one but Involvement in in Jordan in the Middle East conflict, you know back then During the Iraq war and everything it was going on. It was really good. It's gonna kind of remind myself about About that time Let me go to gosh. I forgot your name. Oh, it's. Todd, Todd Central Point, right? Central Point, Todd, how you doing? Yes sir, yes very good. At least he's not trying to occupy Iraq and Afghanistan like Bush and Obama and others have done. And I know that Trump's instincts are not to do this, are not to do that, you know, that's it, that's pretty

clear. He knows it would be very unpopular, but I'm just going to give you a little background. I had an acquaintance who worked out of the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City back in the 90s during the Clinton administration. And I was very young and naive then. And they told me that Iranian operatives way back then were operating across the US border and they you know really bad actors and they were involved in some really bad stuff he couldn't go into detail and I said naively well of course you're passing this information on to the Clinton administration right he said oh yeah we have and then they started yelling at us because they didn't want to be on notice

as having received that information because they didn't want to be on notice as having received that information because they didn't want to do anything about it. Senator, once we're on record, then we're liable for it or blameable, right? They wanted plausible deniability. We don't want to hear it. Interesting. Right. So, you know, those guys have been bad actors since, you know, they took our embassy staff, they blew up the Marine barracks in Lebanon, and all their other stuff. I mean, when Ray, the director of the FBI, Ray, found out during the Biden administration that the Iranian government had put out an assassination plot against Mike Pompeo and

Donald Trump and some, I believe, some Israeli people here in the United States. I mean, that's kind of an act of war right there. So the gloves should have come off. So even if I were president and I found out that the Iranians were trying to whack Biden or Obama or Bush or something like that, that's crossing the line. And just dropping a couple of bombs here and there in the desert and some Tomahawk missiles doesn't seem like, you know, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal.

And if they want to, if they want to try to close down the straits of Hormuz, I say they're, they're just bluffing because they know they will not have a Navy left. They already don't have any air defenses left and they will just be, they will not have a military and they won't be able to defend themselves against an uprising internally. Okay, so what is it then? Because on one hand we're told that it is the existential threat, the terrorist, the terrorist, the terrorist of all terrorists here, and then you're saying that, you know, all it would take that, you know, they don't have much of a Navy even right now, you know, to speak of,

just a little bit from what I understand, from what I recall, and not much of an air force either. So what is it, Todd? Well, they have the ballistic missiles, and that's the real threat. And I don't want to, you know, fill people... I really liked your last guess. I don't want to fill people with fear, but years ago I went through some anti-terrorism training. It was excellent stuff back in 2005. And the guy that was a Middle Eastern expert who put it on, but he kind of pointed to a really good, if people want to look it up, a frontline program on PBS about what a government can do to cause havoc. And it doesn't take a nuclear bomb.

It could take something as little as cesium powder dispersed over a city. And they used this as an example in that frontline show. If youse cesium over London, you would make the city uninhabitable for thousands of years. And it's just a medical stuff. I mean, it's not that unobtainable. And actually, there was an accidental release in a suburb of Brazil when someone was doing salvage work. And if people want to look that up, too... Yeah, I remember that incident. I remember that. In fact, weren't the kids playing in the salvage, from what I recall?

Right. They were trying to salvage some metal that those things were encased in, and they had to basically dig out several feet of dirt. They had to obliterate a neighborhood to get rid of the stuff. So Iran is the, you know, any government really with any kind of means could do it. But Iran really needs to be taken down. I'm not a warmonger, but they have their tentacles into the Caribbean, in Venezuela. They've been so active in so many places. They are, I believe, an existential threat. So but you know what? I don't want to fill people with fear, but I really should try to talk to you behind

the scenes about the person I know that has background information on this. I think they would be a really good guest on your show. Well, please do. All right. Thank you, Todd. Appreciate the opinion. 770-5633. It's what we're sharing this morning.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello? Hi. Hi, Bill. It's Francine. Good morning, Francine. Do you have an opinion on all of the big news, the dramas, the bombings, the conversation afterwards, or is it something different? Nothing at all? No, everybody's got so many opinions, I don't even need to have one. It's like everything's been covered. Okay, all right. Well then what did you want to talk about? Well, real quick I wanted to say, was that movie you were referring to? Wasn't it something like Green, The Green Zone? No, it was Body of Lies that I was watching.

Oh, Body of Lies. Yeah, it was, what was it, who's the guy that played Gladiator? Oh, Crowe? Yeah, yeah, Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe as a bigger CIA guy and we had Leonardo DiCaprio as a rogue, not a rogue, but kind of a maverick CIA guy. It was quite, I got to tell you, it was a well done movie for the time. Okay. But it was so appropriate to be watching during this time. The Green Zone was really good too, by the way.

What's that now? I'm sorry. The Green Zone is another one you might really like. About the Middle East. It was very good. Now, can you understand, though, why people like Massey and others, and even me to a lesser extent, kind of recognize a bit of a rhyming going on right now? A little bit of a rhyme?

History doesn't repeat, but it sometimes rhymes a bit here. Well, I suppose. I don't know, Bill, I kind of stopped paying attention, you know. I mean, and I turned off the radio all weekend. I couldn't take it anymore. I just stopped listening because, like I said, everybody has an opinion and nobody wants to shut up. And it's like, we don't really know what to believe just because people are saying it and we'll have we'll know what happens when it happens okay no we can do about it all right I

want the reason I called but because I was sitting here at my computer this morning and think for some reason something about a home homeless people came to my mind. And I was thinking about how, you know, there are some truly, you know, unfortunate people who have ended up homeless, you know, not because they're lazy or bums or anything like that, but there's a lot of bums out there on the corner. And all of a sudden, I started, this rhyme kind of started popping in my head and I wanted to read it to you.

Okay. Okay. Kind of started popping in my head and I wanted to read it to you Okay Okay, it's called the lazy bums lament aka don't blame me Mama was a junkie daddy was a bum. I'm sitting on the corner beating on my drum. It's really not my fault You know in practice you I blame since you have so much more than me you ought to feel ashamed I'm begging you to help me because I never learned how to be productive so give me what you've earned. I'm hoping you'll feel guilty to see me standing here and give me $20 for cigarettes and beer. The world has made me crazy so the world owes me a lot. So reach into your wallet give me what you've got. I'm never gonna go away. I might camp on your porch

and if you still ignore me I know where there's a torch You know, it's a pretty interesting bit of street poetry there you brought in I know that's what it is street poetry Yeah, yeah, you know, you know, you know what you're reminding me of here a little bit I was gonna tell you of a of a song I was listening to over the weekend I was playing I was was in the garage doing some work on the workbench, right? And to me it's very therapeutic, I get away from the news. But I was going through some old classic rock I had on the iPod and I'm playing it and I'm listening to it and it's like, okay, I'm enjoying this. And one of the songs that came up was, remember 10

years after, I'd love to change the world but I don't know what to do so I leave it up to you. Right, right. And then I'm listening to this thing, I always thought it was a cool song, it was always a great musical song, I like the courting of it and everything else, but then there was all, but then I listened to the lyrics a little more closely, feed the rich, no, no, what is it, feed the poor, tax the rich rich till there are no rich no more All right, well, whoa, you know that that was all part of the you know That what's that the thing when if you're not a liberal when you're in your 20s

You have no heart if you're not a conservative in your 40s. You have no brain I guess we had no brains in those days, right? not conservative in your 40s, you have no brain. I guess we had no brains in those days, right? Yeah, you know, we're all like all about feelings and caring and everything. And then you learn, you figure out what it's really what's really going on. Yeah. Now, of course, that really was an anti-Vietnam screen because even at the end of it, they're because Senators, stop the war, you know, that kind of thing. Right. And it was the one for the really wealthy one percent that were behind that and all other wars. So well, I suppose nothing's really changed has it No

It never does that's why I'm getting so burnt out on on everybody going blah blah blah blah blah All right. Well, thank you for your blah blah Francine 7705633 Every little bit of open phone time here on the Bill Maier show. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Welcome Hello Hello. Hello. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hi, you're on.

Who's this? Oh, hi Bill. I didn't hear the noise. It's okay. Hi Dave. What's on your mind? Hey, look, I'm, I, this whole reaction to what Trump, what happened, you know, with Iran is just so, I'm so tired of it, Bill. I mean, how many years

has the world, including the completely feckless UN, told Iran, oh, you better not do this, you better not do that, you better not enrich know plus you know the people who are ragging on Trump right now I have to let oh you know how they got the money you know around got the money for their nuclear program they got it from Barack Obama okay who gave them billions of dollars so did by both of them well yeah gave them billions of dollars that event that we had seized though you have to be specific about that dollars that we had seized though. You have to be specific about that. We had seized that money. That's great, Bill.

Congratulations. That's all I'm saying though. Don't make it sound as if the federal government took taxpayer money and gave it to them. That's all I'm getting at. It doesn't matter. They got the money and they're making news. The real issue is, again, it's the same with the border. How long have people been talking about this?

Okay, and Trump, you know, it was perfectly executed from what I can tell, surgical strike, you know, and everybody in the world has been saying, well, they can't have nukes, well, they can't, Iran can't be a nuclear arm, you know, and for God's sake, the guy did something about it. It's like, again, it's the same with the border. Now, I'm gonna ask you, see, this is is something we're always worried about Iran having a nuke.

Can I get that? I understand that. Now what if another one of the BRICS... couldn't another member of the BRICS group, which would be of course, you know, China, Russia... they could just give them one, couldn't they? Well, they could. Oh, but I mean,, again, I like you and you're a very smart guy, but isn't that a little simplistic? There are huge diplomatic and international political overtones for a country doing that. Okay? Oh, no, I will agree with you.

I'll be curious to see China's reaction over the... Of course, I know China may be happy to let Iran twist in the wind because Iran's kind of a weak partner in the BRICS world. And that was another response I'd have for you. Do you really... Okay, at the end of the day, do you really think deep down China, or especially Russia Russia is in that part of the world. Yeah, but remember, the reason that North Korea has nukes though is really because of China's protection. You know that. I get that.

I get that. And now you can almost say that Trump was fooled back then, wasn't he? I think Iran is a little bit of a different style of a lot of a different story. But again, you know, Trump, again, this was a surgical military strike on nuclear facilities. Yep. And people are acting like we dropped another like it's another Hiroshima or something. And I again, I just have to laugh. And again, it I just have to laugh.

And again, it comes right, it comes right down to it. Trump does things he acts he, you know, he, he does he does what he says. Okay. And that's so rare and so foreign to the people in Washington, DC and in the swamp, that when he does it it's like oh my gosh, you know It's again at the end of the world, which it's not okay. Hey, I appreciate the call. Thanks for that Take it all opinions here this morning. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Welcome Hey, Bill, it's David David fire away Love you, but I'm gonna tell you something, you know, it's not your fault It's just the environment around us people don't even have enough information to have an opinion about

What Trump actually thinks or who's really pulling the strings or whatever and it takes so much mental energy You know for everyone to turn on the internet Think they're an expert form an opinion and completely ignore whatever like actual lesson for the day We could have in front of us. 99.9% of the people on the planet, their problem is not the next war or the next economy. We are all in a personal, to borrow a phrase, information war,

consciousness war. And none of us calling your show with all these opinions have anything to do with this war. It's a big deal, a war's a big deal, but they don't even have the information to know what's really going on to have an opinion. I will agree with you that the information is what has been fed to us, okay? And which, of course, is why I tend to be more skeptical, okay? I tend to be a little more skeptical. I think it's in my nature, though, that I've just assumed that whether it's a Republican

government or a democratically controlled government, governments lie. Okay? That's just kind of the way I look at things. All right, David? The thing is, though, we do have opinions, and it's okay to have an opinion about it. Whether it's necessarily an informed opinion or not is a different story, but that is kind of my reason to exist here, you know, expressing and hearing opinion and hashing it out. It's okay.

Well, your reason to have the program is multifaceted and it's constantly evolving into different levels and that's why I appreciate it. And I think we do always bring the most consciousness out in any news story that's handed to us. But for anyone to just think that what they, Trump doing when someone likes to go back in time and pretend they know when a world leader was naive or inept, you know, these are all charades. These world leaders aren't confused or tricked or ignoring things like this. Oh, I would agree.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I know that there, I think it was some people were talking well Trump was a trick or you know no no Trump I don't think was tricked into it Trump wanted to do this okay I believe that I believe so all right is that okay? Oh yeah totally well remember we really came together democratically and we really overthrew the deep state when we put Trump into office. Just remember that. We really got one over on those deep staters when we did democracy and we got Trump back

in. So... Okay. Now you're mocking us, aren't you? Not you, not you. Okay. I'm not mocking you. I'm mocking themes that we all are victims to.

I voted for Trump in 2016. We all are evolving at a certain point. But as far as if you really want to get back, if people really think they have enough information to get back into a war in the Middle East, I'm sorry. You just got to talk to me in five years when you're wearing your clown suit because this has happened so many times. Well, I have mentioned that, David, that what is concerning me is that there's a certain amount of rhyming that goes on. There just is. All right?

I don't know how many times we can fall for the same thing. And every time, every time, I think this is going back to, wasn't this what I think Bannon was talking about on Tucker's conversation a few days ago? And it's like, no matter what, every time, it's about getting back into the Middle East. Each and every time. Every time. No doubt. Every administration.

You know? I think Tucker's CIA, but that doesn't matter. But here's the point. The takeaway is this. Take away this. I love your show, but most people's mental energy would be better spent on really their personal lives because the war or the economy or whatever big thing is in the news, it's not up to us, number one.

Number two, it just isn't the deciding factor in our own personal lives. And that's always my met... That's a good takeaway, David. Thank you for the call. 770-5633. If you're on hold, I will get right to you. You're on the Bill Meyer show KMED. Hi it's Bill Meyer. I switched my home and auto insurance to Sky Park Insurance,

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If you were president, what would you have done? I think it's a reasonable question to have asked. I know that Wyden ended up saying it was reckless. And I don't know, I don't think it's reckless, but I'm kind of one of those guys though that would like to see more congressional involvement in here. Just sign off on it and say, hey, you got the authority for three, four weeks already. You already told everybody you're going to decide in two weeks, and then we'll see. Okay? That's what I would do. All right? Yeah. You know, it's already done. History will tell us if it was right or wrong. Yep, we'll find out where it goes. And it'll probably take us a while to actually figure out what was damaged there too, if it really was damaged to the extent. I want to talk

with Jerry the Bull. Hello Jerry, you're on here. Good morning. Good morning Bill. Good morning Jerry. What's on your mind today? Oh, only a couple things. Okay. on your mind today? Oh, only a couple things. Okay. No, you know, Bill, just for perspective, Iran has a reason to call us the great Satan. Understood.

You know, they do, going clear back to 1953, they had a democratically elected government. And we went in there and got rid of the guy, installed the Shah. And some Iranians, you know, probably the older ones, still remember that. There's a professor I listened to who's Iranian. He's knowledgeable of that. He hasn't forgotten it. And if we had been attacked by a country in a similar fashion, I'm sure people here would not forget that. I would imagine not. However, that being said, and you are right about your history, and I know people say, oh, 70 years ago, and by the way, that was signed off on Dwight Eisenhower,

President Eisenhower, Operation Ajax is what that was called. I read quite a bit about that and it's quite interesting. And we have, our relationship has always been, shall we say, sporty and troubled, okay? That's one way. Because what happened, Mosaddegh wanted to nationalize the oil fields of Iran. And of course, the Brits did not want that to happen because they had oil interests there. We now know it as British petroleum. So it was complicated, as they say, in the intelligence world. I'll make a prediction, Bill. What's that? Okay?

And I voted for Trump both times. Now, I don't know how this is all going to play out. Nobody knows exactly what happened other than we dropped some bombs, we do not know the status of the facilities where the bombs were dropped. I believe though, that this event alone could take down the Trump presidency if it backfires. It could. It could. It could. I know that it's already splitting some in the MAGA movement here. And when you talk about taking down the Trump presidency,

are you speaking about impeachment or are you speaking about political ineffectiveness moving forward? What do you think? Political ineffectiveness. If I were anybody, another country, I would not trust America. All right. I appreciate the call. Thanks for that, 770KMED. Lynn, you're going to be the wrapper-upper of this segment, okay? Good morning. Yeah, I think the United States has shown ourselves to be untrustworthy so many times. One more time, we'll... It's kind of like, yeah, so what? Get in line, right? You know? Okay, fine.

But I do have a few quick points. One, Bush got the authorization for use of force from Congress and it's still in effect. And so, and other presidents have used it since that time. Yeah, and that's why these authorizations of force should not be open-ended though, in my opinion. Well, apparently it is. And I do not believe it could have been a secret effort if Congress was informed. But anyway, here's my takeaway.

Trump has been fantastic on foreign policy, better than domestic policy in my opinion throughout the years he's been in office, and I'm inclined to trust him. I think he may have chosen the best of all terrible options, but that doesn't mean I'm not worried. This could escalate. Armstrong says we're in that war cycle. And he talks about 2026 being the panic cycle. Yeah, and events can spin out of control and we don't know what's going to happen. And that's the issue where I was kind of concerned about this.

Not saying that the Lamalas are great people. I was never one of those people where they had our best interest in the war. They were going to be peaceful people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure. Right? Okay. That being said though, you're right.

That's just it. The question that's being raised is have we war game this out to what happens next? It's always that, you know, can we think beyond, hey, we're glad to have the Iranian sites gone, at least we believe they're gone right now. You have to play that all options, what happens next if they didn't do anything. True. So I have to believe that they have discussed all of those things, what could happen if they do nothing, what could happen if they go ahead and take out the bombs.

Trump has been consistent on, or the facilities, Trump has been very consistent about keeping us out of war, and he's also been consistent, Iran cannot get a bomb. I don't believe that Trump is a warmonger. He's the exact opposite. He's been very consistent on that. And if he felt that this was the right thing to do, he has more information than the rest of us. I'm not saying be blind, but that's where I'm at. And I think that's a reasonable place to be. I think the point is to let's see where things move forward. And if we find ourselves getting drawn into something more than what has been sold to us, then there could be some issues. I could see that-

Yeah, no regime change. Yeah, yeah. I know that, you know, just to even mention it. Now I know that the Trump apologists would then come out and say, well, you know, what he meant is that the people in Iran are going to rise up and take out, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

Oh, come on, stop it. Well, he better not mean American boots on the ground, you know, doing nation building. I don't think the American people, even his strongest supporters, would follow him on that. So that I will agree with you that I will agree with you on that. Hey, Lynn, thanks for the call. Always appreciate it. Okay.