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Episode Date: June 27, 2025

Morning news roundup and into the gun bills, Kevin Starrett at Oregon Firearms analyzes the death of HB3076 and SB243 gun control gets passes. Open phones follow.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Happy Conspiracy Theory Thursday, the final Conspiracy Theory Thursday of at least June in 2025. 770-5633-770KMED. My email bill at BillMeyerShow.com. Kevin Starr is going to catch us up on the gun

bills that have been moving. We had one that ended up getting killed, I think that was 3067. This was the one that would have actually shut down the ones that would essentially shut down the gun stores in Oregon. It would make it so difficult. Video surveillance, keeping the videos for years of everything, 24-7, lots of license, additional time. It's amazing what they were doing. So that one got killed, so that was good. And I thought that was all there was to it. And then just at the very last minute in last night's session, they ended up passing 243. 243 is the bump stock ban and it would also essentially kill concealed handgun licenses in any place that

could be used for a public meeting. So it would be, you know, you have all of these patchworks of where it would be legal to carry and where it would not be. And once again, the Oregon legislature going after the people who absolutely cause no problem whatsoever. Because everybody knows that if you do cause problems as a concealed carry license holder, then you end up losing your concealed handgun license. It's pretty simple. And you already had to go through the background checks and everything. But this is just the mean-spirited, bloodthirsty Oregon state legislature democratically controlled in action. However, though, there were lots of Republicans on the floor

that ended up providing quorum. So everything that's being passed right now, and you're hearing about the bad news of stuff which is being passed, just remember that Democrats are being helped by Republicans who have not been able to get enough unity to walk out. Now, State Representative Duane Younger walked out and walked out hard. He's been gone since Saturday. And his release today says, Representative Duane Younger issued a statement in response to today's passage of Senate Bill 243, that gun control bill I was just talking about, out of the House chamber. And he said, despite the lies spread by Democrats today, Senate Bill 243 doesn't make Oregon safer. Instead, Democrats have put law-abiding citizens at a disadvantage, and they give criminals

the upper hand. Now, Duane's right about this because, okay, you say that you can't carry concealed legally in a place that could be a public meeting, etc., etc. Is that going to stop a criminal or someone with evil intent? No, absolutely not. Dwayne continues, I was elected to represent the values of my constituents to defend their rights and protect their wallets. I refuse to take part in today's vote because I didn't come to Salem to provide political

cover for a party that is actively working to undermine both. I took an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution and the Oregon Constitution. That includes the Second Amendment. My values and the rights of the people I serve are not for sale. Republicans should not falter when it comes to core principles. I didn't and I won't." Duane is pretty lonely in his quest to actually have some founding principles in a spine there. But like I said, he's gone. He is out of the situation for right now. And what's really sad about this is that Republicans just could be walking out both the House and the Senate, they could do it easily. And there's no penalty. There's the Measure 113

penalty, 10 unexcused absences, then you can't run for reelection next time for not doing your job. But you have all this bad stuff, the transportation bill, which I guess has now been cut down to a much, much more affordable $11.4 billion, I think it lasts. Yeah they're trying to do some finagling to get that passed through. But yeah really really interesting that there's no penalty to to do this right now. No penalty. But yet they're still not wanting to do it. Rumor has it it has to do with the money bill the big Christmas tree christmas tree bill we'll talk with kevin about that

state senator noel robinson will also join me because uh... two forty three now moves over to the senate and is there a possibility the senate might be able to uh... to stop it i don't know i don't know we'll see about that we have a billion dollar christmas spending bill, House Bill 5006. Yeah, I wonder if this ends up being the bribe that gets a lot of the Republicans to stick around, even though it doesn't necessarily help their constituents.

Yeah, you know, you get a million dollars for a local park or something like that, and then you get the right of press release and say, hey, I got a million dollars for this local park thanks to me thanks to me selling out you know other constituents in order to bring you a million bucks I don't know if that's how that works or not but we'll talk with Senator Noah Robinson about that another interesting story that is out now hasn't got a lot of play here, but the Trump administration, this is a national story, and it's a national story which could have some local import. The Trump administration is ending the roadless rule. Trump

administration ended a decades-old rule which protected roadless areas in national forests and the talk is it could open up millions of acres to potential timber harvest. Now of course there were still other environmental hurdles I would imagine that timber harvesting would have to be done but what this means is that this fake deal about all we have to do is say if it's roadless nothing can be done and that has been ended. The roadless rule was passed by President Bill Clinton's US Forest Service in the early 2001 and by the way this is coming out of Wyoming a lot of people are covering it but I was just getting this out of a Wyoming paper here. The roadless rule was passed by President Bill

Clinton's Forest Service in early 2001, decades after the last saw mills in the West closed. At the time of the rule's adoption, the Forest Service already was managing more than 380,000 miles of roads. The ban on building new roads protected nearly 60 million acres of public land, aiming to protect undisturbed soil, water and air, public drinking water and endangered species. At the time, a Forest Service Planner said the rule would have minimal impact on the way business was conducted, but that really wasn't true. It was essentially a shutdown. So I don't know if that will have anything or any real impact here in what is going on in the state of Oregon, but we have a lot of roadless areas and so that rule is gone. Interesting. 18 minutes after 6, join in at 770563377OKMED.

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so you can snore and do what the other trolls have done in the past. It's amazing how little of that activity we had ever since we instituted this policy. It's my policy. Isn't that what government always says? Whatever the rule is, well, we don't know if it's the law or not, but it's our policy. Well, that's my policy. Okay. We try to keep the trolls out so that people who actually have something to say can join in.

7705633, 770KMD. This is the Bill Maier Show. I have a lot of this over the last few months. The work never ends, I got to tell you. Other stories this morning. Jack Phillips reporting in the Epic Times. Tulsi Gabbard, DNI head, saying new intelligence showing that Iran's nuclear facilities are destroyed and new intelligence showing that they have set back the country's capacity to produce nuclear weapons, disputing a report that would only give the regime a few months delay.

weapons, disputing a report that would only give the regime a few months delay. And this seems to be the big story du jour right now. Is it just stopping the Iranians from for a few months or is this something which has actually stopped it? Well, a lot of these are educated guesses at this point. Talsi is now saying, yeah, it looks like there's been pretty severe damage. The part that always kind of got me about this is that they were saying quite assuredly afterwards, well, there's no radiation. That's the part that makes me just a little bit, I'm going to kind of hold back and say, yeah, we got big holes in the ground, but if it actually hit anything that had fissile material or fission material in there, you know, nuclear material for bomb making because one would think that, you know, you hit

them with bunker busting bombs, it would shake things enough that maybe you'd see some radiation release but they're not indicating that. Now that may mean that okay, maybe it was moved. Maybe the material was moved or maybe it wasn't existing there in the first place, who knows? The administration is going to want to claim everything as exactly as they say and critics are going to say no it's exactly what it's not. They're saying you know it's a little bit of you know unless we were able to get in there do we know for sure? I don't know. But of course Israel has probably people implanted in the in the government there because is there anybody

better at engaging in skullduggery than the Mossad? Probably not. I'm sure the Mossad says, hey, we can teach you CIA clowns a thing or two. It could be. All right. Other news which is going on. Governor Kotech did sign that unemployment bill, the one that if a union, well, if anybody, but especially union workers, because we know that looking

for the union label is very important when you're an Oregon politician. Show that it's the union label so that you were bought and paid for by union interests. But yeah, she ended up signing that bill bill which will provide up to 10 weeks. This was the compromise that was hammered out there because even the governor realized that yeah it looks pretty corrupt, right? That unions get me elected and then I give them strike benefits to go argue with their boss, right? That's essentially

what was going on, right? So we're going to make it look a little bit corrupt. We'll limit the strike benefits to 10 weeks. So if you want to argue with your boss, we can do this using the boss's money to pay for your unemployment benefits because that's exactly what happens right now in the unemployment world. The employer ends up paying the unemployment insurance taxes, the fees into the system, to help pay for workers to then argue with them and fight with them at the boss's expense. God bless Oregon. And thank you, Governor Koteck, for just trying to change things around to look

a little bit less corrupt than the day before, but only a little bit. I guess I'm being very, before, but only a little bit. I guess I'm being very, very sarcastic. All right. Finally, since it is, I don't know if it's finally or not, but since it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, I wanted to share a letter I got the other day. And I haven't called this person back yet, but I have his number and I might reach out to him. But this is a question. Do you know if are we using LRADs here in Southern Oregon to beat people up? Long-range acoustic devices. I had to look it up. I forgot what they what they were. These are essentially sound cannons. This is an email I got from Brian. Now, I don't know if Brian is a listener because it looks like he's been trying to get attention to

his plight with many different media outlets, and apparently I'm the only one that's bit. Well, I'm not biting on it, but I'm just saying this. I'm going to read it to you. I'm not biting on it, but I'm just saying this. You know, I'm going to read it to you. And it says, hi Bill, I have reported to authority multiple assaults with the Genesis LRADs in Jackson County. Now the LRAD is a long range acoustic device, acoustic handling device or otherwise a sound cannon. It's, you know, you'll see them put on top of those Bearcat,

MRAPs and the various other urban assault vehicles. They produce a very, very high power sound and it's been used to control unruly crowds. It can also be used to control, to actually control crowds or make them disperse. It's very loud, those sort of things. But this is something different.

Brian reports, I've had multiple assaults with the LRADs in Jackson County and the police refuse to look into them. I've spoken at city Council meetings, I've talked to the Central Point and Medford police chiefs, I've been assaulted with the long-range acoustic hailing devices while speaking at Ashland, Central Point and Medford City Council meetings. I'm looking for ways to report these misconducts and bring attention to it. I've also included a link to the Genesis LRAD website about the LRADs being in all 36 counties in Oregon.

Thanks, Brian." All right. Now, I asked him, I said, Brian, are you the only one that can hear this? And then he wrote back, Bill, there are other people I know that have had it done to them in Medford and Central Point, but the police will not do an investigation. This is at businesses. They say things like, what is that? How is this still happening? Huh? All right. So is there anybody, this is something I'm just putting out there for the Southern Oregon jury, has anyone heard about the

use of the LRAD acoustical cannons, the sound cannons in essence, to get at people speaking at city council meetings? I would have thought that the city councilors might have heard something. Could be wrong. But you know, it's a type of world that things are so weird. I'll give anybody the benefit of the doubt first. And that's what we have conspiracy theory all Thursday all about. But if anyone's aware of the LRAD sound cannons being used outside of just when they're supposed to be used. Please let me know, okay? 770-5633. Now I don't know if, you know, is it a voice in his head? I don't know. Let me go to the phones here. Hi, on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. This is Bill. Who's this? Hi, Bill. It's Vicki from the Applegate. Morning, Vicki. What's going on with you?

Morning. I just had a thought about the unions. I remember seeing Norma Ray, and I don't remember them getting a, you know, having to look for work when they were striking. And the reason they started a union was because of mistreatment, basically slavery for hardly any money at all. And I think that is what the basis of being in a union should represent. I don't think it should be where you can argue with your boss when you feel like you're not getting enough when you probably are and you just want more. Well, yeah, we are talking about Oregon's political party controlling unions, really

too. But that's why Governor Brown or Governor Kotec, pardon me, ended up signing that bill, no doubt, because she felt it was necessary to pay off the unions so that the unions could argue with the boss. But of course, then they realized there was a problem that in state politics, unions arguing with the boss means that Oregon is, well, that unions are arguing with the Oregon government. And that's why I think Tina Kotech made it look a little less, just slightly less corrupt, just a little bit less corrupt, by limiting it to 10 weeks arguing with your boss, okay? Well, yeah, and I think that's a little excessive. I mean, you know, I don't think they should drag on forever and ever, but I definitely think it should be if you can't resolve it within a week or so, and 10 weeks is way too long.

I would just figure that. I kind of like the idea that if you want to argue with your boss and quit or protest, it's on your dime, but I know that I'm not a very nice person. I think that's old school enough, but it started out originally, school. I don't blame you for sitting that way at all. Okay. All right. Yeah. So just old school. Just old school. Just the way it was. All right. Thanks, Vicki. I appreciate that. Kevin Starrer joining me here in a couple of minutes. What's next for the gun bills? There's a bunch of them.

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hundred dollars on fine bargains for your boots and your barbecues at coastal this is views talk 1 0 6 3 KMED and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show Kevin Starrett from Oregon Firearms Federation is back and we're keeping an eye on what's happening with the gun bills and they are moving. And I got really excited yesterday, Kevin, when the word came down that 3076, it's 3076 that ended up getting killed by the Republicans, right? That's the one?

Correct. And this was the one that would have effectively shut down all the gun bills. You and I have talked about this for quite often over the last few months here leading up on this session. And so I'm thinking, wow, okay. It would have shut down gun stores, not gun bills. Oh, I'm sorry, gun stores. That's right. Thank you for the correction there. But yeah, it would have included like videotaping 24-7 of the premises. Everything has, it's just amazing what they were doing. I'm

surprised that it got anything. And so I'm thinking, all right, good thing. So the gun stores can remain open. This is fine. And so I'm getting ready to go to bed. And then at the very last minute, House Senate Bill 243 ends up passing in the Oregon House. This was the bump stock ban and this would kill concealed handgun licensing in a lot of different places or the ability to carry. At the last minute, so if they were able to kill the other one, why didn't this one get killed? Do we know? Or was it a deal that we're going to kill the gun store bill and and allow the other crappy stuff to move forward. I don't know. I mean it was just my suspicion about it since it happened at the very last minute yesterday. Well I can't give you

any other possible explanation except that the deal was made. I mean you know moments after that happened, Dresden had a press release out taking credit for killing it. But then later on, all the House Republicans who showed up and helped pass the other bill sent out a press release claiming victory. It was, it's surreal. Like this is a victory. I mean, okay. So now the most well-behaved law abiding people in the state once again had their rights more and more eroded, a cut here, a cut there, till eventually there'll be no place they can go,

because a bunch of people are uncomfortable with them having rights. So we give up our rights, and we're not allowed to participate in democracy, as they put it, so that they can create a situation that, you know, what it'll do is say any government building, any place where there's a meeting, they can ban CHL holders from being there.

But under no circumstance, virtually no circumstances are those buildings actually protected by anyone else. So the proponents of this bill over and over again say, hey, look, we don't allow guns here in the Capitol. We should be, people should be allowed to do that any way, any place they want. Yeah, but the thing is though, the Capitol is under heavily armed guard.

Precisely. Yeah. There's simply no comparison. The legislators, while talking about the terrible things that happen at schools, which we agree are terrible, never make any effort to protect the schools as well as they've protected themselves. Because you see legislators and lobbyists are a lot more important than school children are. So they constantly talk about, well, we ban guns here, and so that's a good thing,

and why can't we do it at schools? Well, because schools basically put up a sign that said, our children are now targets, nobody here will be able to repel an attack, although us lobbyists and legislators are safe all the time because we're surrounded by metal detectors and cops. So in other words, the legislature yesterday with Republican health because they were present ended up creating more gun-free zones is what they've done. Well, gun-free zones for good people, I guess is what we're saying. Yeah, criminal they're not gun-free zones at all because there's nothing to prevent

from dangerous people from coming in. And now you've essentially advertised that fact, in spite of the reality that there has been no issues with concealed handgun licenses. It's just that, well, moms know, moms demand action. They're uncomfortable being in a public meeting and they're denied their opportunity to participate in democracy. But a person who might be able to save their life can be denied the opportunity to participate in democracy because it's all about our feelings. You know, it has nothing to do with reality. And of course the Republicans helped pass this. And of course, the Republicans helped pass this. And now the very Republicans who helped pass this attack, you know, every year

it's one more thing. First it was the airports, then it was the Capitol, then it was the schools. Now it's public meetings. Next year it'll be something else. And the Republicans who helped pass this are now claiming what a victory it was and say, our impact is undeniable. Together we will continue to deliver results that give all of Oregonian a stronger voice. Okay. So wash, rinse, repeat, and we're looking at it. Is this the beginning of the big collapse? Is this probably the only win that we're looking at at this point? I'm gonna have Noah Robinson on, Senator Robinson on after seven, but it looks to me like now with 234 or 43 rather

going over to the Senate, that's the last hope, isn't it? That's it? Oh, sure, sure. So now because the bill had already passed there, the bill passed in the Senate, then it went to the House. The House made some changes, so now the bill has to go back to the Senate for concurrence. Now, there are motions on the schedule for concurrence. That one isn't, but I don't think

it has to be on the schedule. Now, what is a motion for concurrence? Can you help me understand that, please? Help us all. So, once a bill is passed in one House, if the other House makes any changes, once once the bill is passed in one house if the other house makes any changes the original house has to agree to them and typically how that works is a legislator will get up and say i'd like to move that we agree to those amendments that's it and then the other people all say yes and that's the end of it there's no debate there's no you know nothing goes on they just say yeah they're good amendments or or or or they may say we don't want to concur But you know, they're going to want to concur because they made it worse, you know But that's all it takes and as far as I know that's not required to be scheduled and anything that is required

Can be any requirement can be removed if there is such a requirement Which I don't believe there is just by an agreement to suspend the rules And so my concern is that if something like this is not on the schedule such a requirement, which I don't believe there is, just by an agreement to suspend the rules. And so my concern is that if something like this is not on the schedule and the Republicans are on the floor of the Senate and the motion is made, well, there really is no opportunity at that point for them to leave. So if they're there, if they're present, you can't just, if the motion is made while they're there providing quorum, they can't then pull the quorum and stop something. Is that what I'm hearing then?

Is that what that means? Well, you know, I suppose, I don't know if the rules allow them to ask for a recess at which point they all disappear, but I think it's extremely unlikely that something like that would happen because it all happened so fast. All right. What other gun bills are still left hanging out there, or hanging fire? Because I made a mistake last night on my social media posting. I was thinking that Senate Bill 243 was the magazine-sized ban, right? It's not that one, right? It's in something else, I guess?

No. No. What 243... See, here's where there's been a fair amount of confusion and that confusion I think was evidenced by mask wearing Kevin man a lot of them wearing masks by the way people have been asking me why are they why do all of a sudden we seeing a whole bunch of masks on the state and in or the house in the Senate floor because people are wondering are they trying to hide their identity what's going on or something else? I don't know I don't know why they'd be wearing them on the on the Senate floor

but okay there is a Democrat member who has been been treated for cancer quite thick and so she's been off the floor and they've just dragged this is pathetic this is horrible they dragged her back out of treatment for these important votes. And the Democrats were wearing masks, supposedly in solidarity for her compromised immune system. But yesterday, I don't know if she was on the floor or not, I don't recall seeing her,

but yesterday a lot of the Republicans were wearing masks. But okay, that's fine, that's a very nice gesture, except that most of them weren't. And the ones who were, even the Democrats, kept taking them off to speak. I mean, it was pure virtue signaling, just absolute pure virtue signaling. Did nothing for anyone.

Well, it's kind of like going back to the COVID days in which you're wearing a mask all the time, except when you're sitting down at the restaurant with your family to eat and then the mask comes off and then we know that COVID doesn't come out when you were eating food. We knew that. I would watch people in restaurants have the mask on at their table. When the food came, they took the mask off. When they got up to use the bathroom, the mask came on. And you're thinking, there's some people who have some serious lack of scientific knowledge about this stuff. I think what you're demonstrating,

Kevin, is that what happened in 2020 has just broken the culture. And we're still putting up with the breaking of this culture, even today. Some people just aren't going to be, hey, they're not going to be healed, Mr. Sparrett. That's all I can tell you. They're not healed emotionally. If I was behaving the way most of these legislators are, I would be healed, Mr. Sparrett. That's all I can tell you. They're not healed emotionally. If I was behaving the way most of these legislators are, I would be wearing a mask too. But the reality is that I'm sure some people look at this and say, okay, 3076, the bill that would kill gun stores

is killed. That is a really positive thing. But it's like, this is what happens year after year. It's imagine your car is stolen and your Chihuahua is in it, right? And you're outraged. And the thief says, oh, I'll give you the dog back and keeps your car. And you claim victory for that. And that's what the Republicans keep doing.

And what's doubly infuriating is the reality is that there is absolutely no excuse for it. Well, I get this news release from Christine Drazen that was praising them all. They're saying, hey, look at us because we banned, we got rid of 3076. And I was thinking, well, this is wonderful. But she left out the part that they passed 243, the other one.

Yeah. They left that part out. Exactly. This is the cut after cut. And it's like, I'll adapt to this or I can live with that. And it's just. Constant. And, you know, the Republicans have at some point have said, well, there's no point in us walking out because these bills will be back next year.

And yesterday, the Democrats said the same thing. Jason Krupp, who is one of the Democrats who are pushing all these things, who was breaking down in tears yesterday about this, told us many times that this is coming back over and over again. And here's a guy who is supposedly an attorney in Oregon, chair of the House Judiciary Committee,

who every time he speaks gets up in lies about what Oregon law says. And he can't not know. He simply can't not know that what he's saying is untrue because it's just so clear. He actually believes that there are no background checks to buy guns in Oregon. This is a lawyer in charge of making laws in Oregon, and he doesn't know this? How high is this guy? Well, I don't know.

This other Democrat who got up, Dobson, who actually carried the bill, believes that she was attacking Trump, of course, because he re-legalized bump stocks. Well, he did nothing of the kind. She says Congress banned bump stocks. No! That's a total lie. A total lie. Now President Trump's ATF in the first term that he had ended up coming out and changing the rules. The ATF changed the rules and then

Trump ended up ordering the ATF to change its rules back. In other words, that's what happened. It wasn't Congress. No, that's not even what happened. No? Trump went to the ATF and said, make these things illegal. They came up with this convoluted response that made no sense that said, okay okay now these pieces of plastic are actually machine guns It was the courts who came back and said no, that's right I think that doesn't have the authority to do that

And so Congress could ban bump stocks anytime they wanted to but they didn't and while she was attacking Trump It's actually Trump who did this that's how unbelievably ignorant these people are. But they're making laws, they're shooting off their mouth, they're getting up there and crying about what terrible things are happening to them. Meanwhile, the collection of people who are obeying the laws and providing protection in places where there are no cops, once again are getting screwed, and in the next session they'll come back with something else and something else. And the Republicans basically signal to them, yep, you can do anything you want, and if you want to be guaranteed of screwing people, just introduce two bills and then one

of them will certainly pass because we are brilliant negotiators. Okay. What happens next though? What about the magazine bans and everything else we've talked about before? Is that, Dad, which which bills are those what's the status of that the only the only two bills that were in play at this late session this like point in the session were the one they killed which was 3076 the gun store ban and 243 which is very much alive which is now in the hands of Senate 243 the Manix got up and was complaining about a magazine ban that was included in 243, and it was clear that he really had no idea what he was talking about because he just made a couple

of comments that he thought were demonstrating his knowledge of firearms and just indicated that he has none. But what 243 does, because it does have magazine ban language in it, but it's not new. It's not new language. I mean, remember, measure 114 passed with an overwhelming less than 1% of the vote, which is well within the margin of error for the voter fraud we know we have. Yeah, your sarcasm is greatly appreciated by the way. I'll continue, okay? But the implementation date, now it's on hold as you know because it's in the courts,

but it's still technically law. And in that, in that legislation, that ballot measure, it had an implementation date of 2022. So if the Supreme Court says yes, that's constitutional, then retroactively people could be arrested for being in possession of magazines that they got after 2022. In fact, they can be arrested for having magazines they've had all their lives, but that's another story. But what the bill does is it creates a new implementation date of 2026. Manix was treating it like this was a new prohibition. Got it.

It isn't. Got it. Okay. So that was where the confusion came from that I thought that 243 had something to do with another magazine ban. It's just the implementation date, right? For what is existing law that is currently on hold, and I know this is horribly inside baseball, but that's what that does.

And once again, just a demonstration. I mean, there's a, one of the things that you really learn when you subject yourself to watching this crap is that not only are these people incredibly stupid, but they truly love the sound of their own voices. And I mean, not a bill can go by that Mannix doesn't have to get up and pontificate about stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about and Mannix doesn't have to get up and pontificate about stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about and when it doesn't matter. You know, most of these bills with very limited exception, most of these bills are sailing through. The votes are there, they knew it. And so every time somebody gets up to talk, it's just because, look at me, I'm on TV. Yeah, well, I

think part of this though is that I will almost guarantee you that next governor's race that comes around, Kevin Mannix is going to be up there touting his LGBTQ love for the agenda as he was voting in favor of H.R. 3, the dancing, prancing black drag queen bill that they had. I think that's an excellent prediction. So, I mean, I think we'll be facing off between Drazen and Mannix and you know, this is ultimately what this comes down to It leads to it a large extent is the institutional policy of the party of the Republican Party to promote Candidates who stand for nothing. Do say, I'm a Republican, you're gonna get the Republican Party backing.

And when you have people like Javadie and Mannix and Anderson and others who vote regularly with the left, and the party's position is, well, we've just got to elect more of them. Because if we elect, if we have a majority of liberal Republicans, somehow then it will put us in a position of getting in conservative Republicans.

Yeah, which is nonsense. It's like making the equivalent, the Oregon Republican Party way that they are approaching things at this point, is that Kevin Mannix is the equivalent of Dwayne Juncker, right? They're equal. They are just interchangeable within the Republican Party. And then the base would look at them as just interchangeable. Exactly the same kind of Republican. And they're here to help. That's all. The goal is to elect more Republicans, even if they're Satan. And of course, this is not a new policy. This has been the policy of the party for 30 or 40 years. Let's remember, this is the party of Bob Packwood.

This is the party of Tom McCall, who created a land use regulation that's crippled the state. Well, it was because of his issue, right? An issue he had with land use. It was his issue. And now people can't afford homes. Every day there's another story about how unaffordable housing is in Oregon.

And every day they pass another law to make it more and more difficult. And you would think that eventually people would say, this can't go on. But you look at a place like New York, which is an open toilet, and they just elected a communist. Yeah, well, it looks like they're going to get a Muslim Indian there, you know, running

the... It's like they're going like London. It's an amazing time, really. And you would think that, well, really the only reason that the Muslim Indian might make it through is because of vote splitting at this point. But oh, by the way, I wanted to remind you, that was a ranked choice voting that they did there, that got that guy in.

Yeah, but you still got 40% of the vote. Yeah, still. I mean, that's an enormous amount of votes for a guy who said, free daycare, free transit, rent, we're gonna not allow any more rent increases, and we're going to have government run grocery stores, you know, which has worked out really well in the Soviet Union. But, you know, I like the idea of a government saying, we're going to do more with less, but this guy is promising to do everything with nothing.

It's an interesting time. Hey, Kevin, before we take off though, in all seriousness, are there any other firearms related bills landmines other than this 243? Or is that really what's left at this point? No, given the timing and the closure dates of committees, I don't think we have anything else that's happening. But this one is bad enough. and the fact that the Republicans are claiming victory is just a disgrace. Okay, so there's half a loaf, but even that half a loaf is a little bit moldy when compared to the other half that got killed. All right. Half a loaf indicates we got something. We didn't get anything. We got screwed half as much. That is not a victory. Okay, but yet everyone's going to claim, hey, you're screwed half as much, you should be grateful that we're here to help you from only getting screwed half as bad. And the beatings shall continue. So morale improves.

Exactly. Exactly. All right. Well, I'm going to talk with Noah Robinson about what might be coming up next on this particular deal. Kevin, thanks for watching this because I don't know how you put up with it. You've been watching these sessions all day, right? You've been watching this from start to finish for the most part, from what I understand. Good one for the team, Bill. All right. Good for you, man. You have a very strong constitution. Thank you very much. Be back in touch. Kevin Sterrod, Oregon Firearms Federation. It is Be back in touch. Kevin Sterrod, Oregon Firearms Federation.

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I want to give you a heads up that I'm going to be talking with Dr. Ed Berry. He's a theoretical physicist, lives in Big Fork, Montana, and he's been in the middle of a battle with the CO2 coalition. You know the CO2 coalition, I talk with a lot of their people and I respect many of the scientists that I talk to there. Gregory Wrightstone is one of several that I've had conversations with over the years here. But he is going toe to toe with them because he is completely against their point of view that we actually have human-based global warming. And he's put out papers criticizing the CO2 coalition. Essentially, what he's saying is that the CO2 coalition should not be talking about human-based global warming

because there's absolutely the scientific evidence that he's bringing forth doesn't support it. So it's not like he's saying that hey CO2 is bad or CO2 coalition is bad, but he says they're using the wrong science. And you know it's interesting and I'm hoping he can explain this so that non-theoretical physicists like myself can understand this. But he's going to be on a little bit more than an hour from now, around 8 or 10 or so. So we'll have a conversation about that. So he's still friendly, but his point is that he wants his paper to be considered by CO2 coalition and everybody else because there is a a big lawsuit. There's a big lawsuit in Montana, our Children's trust, Lighthizer v. Trump, the climate lawsuit. And he says that if we don't get right with the science, that the children's trust law...

Now, the children's trust lawsuits, these are the ones in which liberal parents end up getting their children to cry in court and say, we're having a damaged ecosystem and so we have a right to shut down society. It's essentially what they're doing, right? That kind of thing. And he says that this lawsuit is serious as a heart attack and that it needs to be fought properly and that you cannot concede this thing about human-based climate change. So anyway, we'll have that coming up and we'll talk with Dr. Ed Barry, smart guy. And like you said, he has more PhDs than I have after my name. Of course I have none. This is KMED, KMED HD1 Eagle Point Mefford, KBXG Grants Pass. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday.

So I will entertain all sorts of crazy people. I don't know which person this is. Is this a crazy person? Welcome. Well, my craziness is kind of up and down. It depends on the topic and how out there I might get on it. Okay, very good. Very good. How are you this morning, Francine? Good to have you. I'm good, Bill. I don't really have a conspiracy theory today, believe it or not, just enough of them. I don't need to add to it. But I do have two things I wanna say. One is I wanted to offer something to our listeners that I don't need, I wanna give these away

to somebody who's paying out of pocket for those little monitors you put on your arm to check your glucose levels. Oh yeah, yeah. I have a whole box of them. I use them for about six months. I'm only a type 2 diabetic, but I still manage to get these. And it helped me a lot to understand what foods worked for me and what foods didn't. And they've been sitting in the box now for about five or six months. And I called and they said they were fine. They're not too old. So I would like to give them

to one of our listeners, otherwise I'll take them to Access. But if I could give them to one of our people who are actually having to pay out of pocket for something like this, not just people that are getting them for free with their Medicare or whatever. I would like to give them away. So if somebody wants to reach out and find me. Now, your number is what? 951-1599, right? Yes, thanks for putting it out on air. Well, do you mind that? I mean, you call all the time. Well, I don't know. I guess it's not fair to expect you to have to be the broker here in the middle. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, so there's that. And here's the other thing. I popped you an email yesterday, but you might not have had a chance to look at it. There has been an ad about Cliff Benz saying that he is going to shred Medicare for so many people. And I'm sure it's a leftist push and all that. But I mean, I'd like to know. My understanding was that he was one of the people working towards getting the freeloaders and the cheaters and the people that are not truly eligible for Medicare and

Oregon or the Medicaid programs. Yes. And the R-Oregon, I think it's R-Oregon, that pack that is buying those ads right now. Yeah. And you guys are playing them. I'm so ashamed of you. But I know. No, no, no.

I know. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, let me go on the record right now. We are a radio station. It is a business. We sell advertising. That's the way we pay for transmitters and people like me. All right. The thing is, and here's the deal.

If you take political advertising, you have to take it all. You can't pick and choose and say that I can't look at that and say, you know, I think these people are clowns and so they can't come on. It's like, no, it's not that. Now, the thing is though, the way you described it though is correct. The Republican push in the big beautiful bill and the votes for this has been about getting illegal immigrants off of Medicaid, which is the Oregon Health Plan. They weren't supposed to in the first place, but even Oregon, the way they got around the rules that you're not supposed to be putting illegal immigrants on Medicaid, they ended up creating a different kind of Medicaid-like process.

But there's still a lot of federal money that was coming in and backfilling a lot of this stuff. So yes, the idea is that we get illegal immigrants off of this Medicaid, Oregon health plan, these type programs, and also that you have a work that an able-bodied person needs to work and not just be a freeloader. So that's part of it. But our Oregon, see our Oregon should really be

our Oregon voms is kind of you know kind of the way they're looking at it they want everybody in the wagon being towed okay yeah no I know and by the way I was kind of teasing you when I said you know shame on you because I do understand the oh no I get the emails people just ready to ready to do burst an aneurysm you know over that kind of stuff no that's not it but what I would think would be a good idea is if some of us contacted Cliff's office and told them that they need to put another ad that's

explaining the situation honestly, because a lot of people have no idea. They're just believing it. My neighbors, my Democrat neighbors, of course, think, well, aren't you worried about them taking your Medicare away? No, no one's talking about taking their Medicare away. I know. But that's, you know, it would probably be helpful if we

could balance that out with an ad from from his camp. All right. Well, remember, that's all the Democrats seem to have right now, which is don't take my health care away. Don't take my health away don't take my healthcare away that's it but people believe it and they and they just you know we're never going to turn people around if we can't give them real examples of how how insane like insanely stupid the things they believe are i appreciate the call thank you very muchine. Let me grab a next line here. Hi, good morning. Who's this? All right, let me go to the next line. Hi, good morning. Hi,

Bill. LaCrescia. Hi, LaCrescia. What's going on? Well, um, how do I start this? Well, let's see. You know, if you have a little bit more lengthy thing that you need to talk about, can you call me after 730 after I get done with Noah Robinson? This is about all the fake science. So it also involves your coming guest or that matter. And I was listening to Dr. Pollack about easy water and all the things that it's causing. Okay, all right. I'm out of time.

Okay, I'm running short. I don't want to cut you short. Call me back a little later, okay?, all right. I'm out of time. Okay, I'm running short. I don't want to cut you short. Call me back a little later, okay? We're going to do another open phone time. Everybody piles in is, unfortunately, I'm in my news break right now. I don't want to give you short shrift, Lucretia, okay? Okay. All right. Thanks. Whoever else is online here will have more open phones coming up a little bit later. It is conspiracy theory. There's plenty of time for your conspiracy theories. And by the way, I had somebody respond to that sound cannon email that I was talking about earlier this morning, which a guy is claiming that sound cannons are being used to torture him as he

testifies in front of various city councils. I know it sounds a little weird, but I mean the Conspiracy Theory Thursday email response is quite interesting, even more interesting than than the nutty claim that we have sound cannons that are torturing people right now in Jackson and Josephine County.