Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 06-27-25_FRIDAY_7AM

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

Greg Roberts from Rogue Weather and the latest outdoor report, some climate history in the valley, D62 quiz, plenty of Open phone times for Friday topics.

The Bill Myer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at www.clouserdrilling.com. We're 10 minutes after 7, Mr. Outdoors. We're going to get him on here and go into the great outdoors and maybe just bake a little bit. Baking to a delicate crunch? I don't know. We'll talk with Greg about that here in just a moment.

There is some breaking news, though, that came up here, and this has to do with probably the biggest Supreme Court decision that we've had here for a little while, and this is about the nationwide injunctions also on the birthright citizenship here. It was a 6-3 decision, I'm getting this from the SCOTUS blog, scotusblog.com, and they have granted a partial stay on the nationwide universal injunction. So this appears to be, and like I said, this just came out, it's going to have to be parsed and sliced and diced and all the rest of it, but it does appear that President Trump has received a partial victory on this one.

The court does say that it is not deciding whether the executive order is constitutional. But the 6-3 decision here, the court says that the government's application to partially stay the district court's preliminary injunctions are granted but only to the extent that the injunctions are broader than necessary to provide complete relief with respect to each plaintiff withstanding to sue. And the court is instructing district courts to move expeditiously to ensure that with respect to each plaintiff the

injunctions comport with the rule and otherwise comply with the principles of equity, whatever that is. But it does appear that they are reigning in the nationwide injunction, but they are not deciding on the constitutionality necessarily of President Trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship. They're really putting a bit of a restriction on the other federal courts to be able to smack him down at every time,

no matter what the executive does, almost saying that you just don't have the power to do this, you don't have this nationwide power to do this against the executive is essentially what the Supreme Court has said. It is a 6-3 decision, okay? And as soon as we get a little bit more information on this, they have limited the use of the nationwide injunction, so that is relatively good news. Now it's not a complete and total win like they can't do anything but apparently there is a higher standard. I hope I explained that properly but I think I did. I don't know. Well you know I'm not a lawyer but I talked to enough of them I guess.

What's a real sale if it's a handful of pieces near you? That's BYRNA. Mr. Outdoors is here. Mr. Outdoors, Greg Roberts over at rogueweather.com. Good to have you here, Greg. And the Outdoor Report is sponsored by Oregon Truck and Auto Authority on Airway Drive in Medford. We always appreciate you being at rogueweather.com. What is the story? Are we going to broil, steam, or bake to a delicate crunch? What do you think this weekend, huh? First things first. Actually, I don't think any of the above because the only truly hot day that we're gonna see is gonna be Sunday. That's where we get up to a projected high of 101 in Medford.

And honestly, now for the time of the year, 101, that's not really all that high. It's well short of what record would be. And then again, it's Sunday. It's been a pretty interesting turn because I would say even as recently as 48 hours ago, it was looking like we were going to be lingering in the upper 90s and around 100 for a few days at least, the 4th of July, we never saw the 4th of July being hot. But there was that, I would say, four-day interval of time, Sunday,

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, where it looked like upper 90s near 100 was going to be a pretty safe bet. And then, then the worm turns, as it always seems to do in weather, and now we've got just one hot day. Now the thing to really keep an eye on is going to be the chance for thunderstorms Monday, Tuesday, and into Wednesday out, you know, Wednesday out, you know, places like Lake County, Klamath County, that area. But Monday is now shaping up to be pretty good chance for widespread thunderstorms across all areas, inland from the coast. But the absolute best chance by far will be over the Cascades and then East slopes of the Cascades, maybe making it as far as

Klamath Falls. When we start looking at things in the atmosphere that will indicate what thunderstorm levels could be like, one of the first things we look at is a thing called CAPE, Convective Available Potential Energy. potential energy. And the CAPE level, you want to see something 500 joules would be about the minimum for where I would expect thunderstorms and where I would potentially be putting them in the forecast. On Monday afternoon and evening over the Cascades and just to the east of them. We're looking at jewels that are running probably somewhere in the 1500 to 2200 range, which is a dead certainty you're going to

get thunderstorms. Depending on how things work out, probably going to be looking at some stronger storms. We may even get a severe storm or two going, but right now it looks like all of these are going to be wet storms. On Sunday... Now, that's great. Now, see, that's great to know because I was thinking, oh boy, thunderstorms and I'm automatically thinking lots of fire starts. Well, everybody does and really the only time period that it looks like we may have the mix of dry storms ahead of wet storms developing. This looks to be more of a northern California situation. Southern portions of Siskiyou County extended over to Modoc County. Yeah there is concern that we're going to see some dry

storms develop, but then as we move forward in time on Monday, more moisture arrives and therefore wetter storms. And I honestly think right here directly Jackson and Josephine counties, this will be a chance for storms Monday, I'm going to say Monday evening into early Monday night. And then once we have that, Tuesday, Wednesday, I don't expect any real chance for thunderstorms here. All the action will again be along and east of the Cascades and down in Northern California, but even in Northern California, it shifts more to

the eastern portions of Northern California. How's the coast looking this weekend? Great. Okay. Yeah, I mean in a word, great. We're through the major storm season, as it were, for the coast. We are probably going to be getting small craft advisories going up through the afternoons and the evenings for the northerly winds.

That it's just, that's kind of what happens in the summer along the Oregon coast, but it's not anything unusual and anybody who would be going out and going fishing knows all about it, which is why you typically want to be on the water by five o'clock in the morning and you're getting things done and wrapped up. You want to be off the water, not later than 1 p.m., because after 1 p.m. that's when things start, especially for small privately owned boats, that's

when things start getting very interesting. Where do you think the best fishing is going to be this weekend, Greg? Well, I'll tell you what. With the conditions we're going to have, it's almost a can't miss situation. Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, they really stocked heavy for the spring, and now they're shifting their focus on where they are stocking to, where they typically are, the higher mountain lakes, Fish Lake, Lake of the Woods, Four Mile, you know, Diamond Lake does not get into the usual stocking program, they do a different program for Diamond Lake, but anywhere else there should be excellent trout fishing coming up this weekend because we're going to have ideal conditions for it. And of course, Sunday, as I said, going to be a hot day

and imagine a lot of people be looking for the lakes for some relief. Well, when you do that, make sure to throw a line in the boat and catch dinner. I wanted to touch back on a bit of weather and climate history around here. I've always had these conversations with Linda. Linda moved here and she moved to the Applegate in the late 1980s from Las Vegas and she said, oh it was just so wet, it was wet, wet, wet, cool and you know it had changed. It's changed since then. It's gotten really hot and dry and I said, well you know, Hon, I'm thinking when I look at the history of Southern Oregon, that that might be the Rogue Valley returning more to its climactic norm,

if you want to call it that, because I look at some of the history books from the 1800s and one that I had that a listener gave me a while ago that was talking about the building of the railroad through southern Oregon through, you know, our our Valley and the miserable between the Indian attacks and everything else going on the Miserable summers and the routine 105 110 degree Kind of readings there and so I was wondering, you know Is that more of the normal or was when Linda moved here in the late 80s, is that more normal and we're going abnormal?

When you hear climate change gets tossed around all the time, I just thought I'd ask you. Well, Linda showing up, that was definitely a very abnormal period. I do vividly remember those cold, wet summers because I was a wildland firefighter and those cold wet summers did not do a thing for me especially as a contract working with a contractor I had I want to say it was 89 maybe it was 88 anyway had one fire season where I was out on a fire line making actual money five days. That was it. That was it for the entire season.

Okay. So I was really happy I kept all of my side jobs. I get so. Because if I had quit to be the ready to go at a moment's notice firefighter dude, yeah I'd have gone way broke. And yeah we did, we had those years in the 80s that just in the summers we were very wet. We also had quite a bit of thunderstorm activity in those years. I remember 87 definitely was a big thunderstorm year, and of course we had that dry lightning burst that rolled through that started

all of those legendary fires back in 87 on August 31st. That is still one of the most amazing events I ever saw, because we were having lightning bolts coming down everywhere, and it seemed like every lightning bolt was starting a fire. I will never forget hiking up to the top of, um, Pleasant Creek and looking out over the horizon. And it seemed like everywhere I looked, there was this big, huge column going up and it was lit up underneath and I just remember being so awestruck and going

I've never seen anything like this. I haven't seen anything like that since. That one's forever going to be etched in my mind and then 89 was another year with quite a bit of lightning going on, but they were cool and wet right up to a point until they weren't. And then back there in 87, just about the time that dry lightning burst rolled through, everything had finally gotten cured to the point where it was really going to burn. We had I think just a handful of fires in 87 that I vividly remember before the big lightning burst hit. One of those was the Angel Fire in southern Douglas County that it really

took off. There was a lot of grass component to it and it took off and that Angel Fire, that was a bad fire. That was a 10,000 acre fire. But like I said, we didn't have a whole lot of activity until August 31st and then it just seemed like the whole world was on fire. And then I was out on fires all the way through first week of December. Okay, so her memory was accurate about what it was like, but that was sort of an outlier of what a normal southern Oregon is. And that's just it because southern Oregon is described as kind of

like a Mediterranean climate. Not a ton of rain in most of the places, right? Nineteen inches a year, Saul Medford normally gets. Okay. Well, Stan the Man also is one of those that says, this is a dry place. Wet years are the exception. And he's absolutely right about that. I mean, think about the early, some of the early names, especially out there in the white city area, Agate Desert, Desert Creek, which is a still a dry feature that rarely has any water in it. So there's a lot of historical information, including names of things, that will definitely tell you this has been predominantly a very dry place. And when it's wet, hey, we enjoy that and we're happy to let the lakes and the reservoirs fill up, but the normal is relatively 18-19 inches a year of precipitation.

Now, you go out to the Illinois Valley, that's always been a little wetter, right? Oh yeah, and the further west you get, the wetter it gets. The western end of the Illinois Valley, western end of the Illinois Valley. I'm going to define that over there on that west side of Hayes Hill area. When you get there, let's start with Grants Pass. Grants Pass is about 30 inches a year average annual rainfall. Medford is 18.44. I've got that one locked in now and the old computer upstairs in me. But Grants Pass is 30, west side of Hayes Hill where there is actually a weather monitoring station, that gets up to 52 inches a year. And then it gets progressively wetter until when you reach O'Brien, O'Brien averages

nearly 100 inches of rainfall a year. Boy, what a difference, what a difference. You know, in just, you know, 30, 40, 50 miles that we have around here. It's a fascinating, fascinating... Well, that also makes it very difficult then to forecast weather because of all the various microclimates like you talked about. What I just described absolutely lays out how difficult it can be. And now of course with the advent of things like radar, we can see that pretty typically in the winter, Medford is right smack in the middle of a doughnut hole with no precipitation going on, and it's pouring rain in the mountains all around Medford and then to the west of Medford and we're not

getting anything because of the downsloping and drying effect and the winds at the lower and mid levels are literally pushing the rain right over the top of us. We don't start getting wet until the downsloping ends and that's why Medford averages 18.44 inches and Grands Passes at 30. Now what role does the urban heat island affect? And that's also something which is different now than when you go back 40, 50 years because we have a lot more asphalt and a lot more concrete in an area that used to be a lot of parrot orchards which aren't there now in many cases. Right, and grass and dirt and I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand,

but Medford is a bowl. And the heat will collect in the bowl. We've got all these asphalt concrete areas that once were dirt. Asphalt and concrete holds heat. Proven. Then you get the nighttime temperatures and Medford is dramatically warmer in the overnights than it has been. And I will tell you for a fact because I know this is true, Medford is one of the cherry-picked data sites that they're using to make the claim of anthropogenic global warming.

Yeah, and that's nonsense because an urban heat island is not the same as, well, you're putting out CO2 and all of a sudden you're changing the climate. You're changing the environment when you end up building concrete and homes and black roofs instead of having fields and orchards. You know, that's just the way it is. So what's happened is they also created this other thing, average temperature. And what they do is you take your daytime high and your nighttime low, you add it together and then divide it by two to get the average temperature for the day.

Well here in Medford with our pronounced urban heat island that's led to a dramatic spike in the average temperature and they are using that as part of that data because it's cherry-picked because within the Medford National Weather Service main observation station network, Medford is the only one that has that. I look at the data out of Montague and Alturas and it is not changing much at all from when they put those stations in. I always suspected that as part of the the climate change agenda and This is not to say that we have I'm not claiming that there's no effect on it

But you know, you know, we know that the average temperature in the summer Well, everyone's talking about the deadly heat right now over the you know over the East Coast Okay. Well look at New York City, New York City makes makes Medford Look like pikers when it comes to urban heat island effect, right? Given what they have, it's all concrete and asphalt. Well, yeah, yes, on sheer size. But New York isn't Medford.

It's not sitting in a bowl. It doesn't have the sustaining effect that it does here in Medford. The other thing that the urban heat island effect definitely did in Medford, it changed how we get snow, when we get snow, and it takes far more of sustained heavy duration snowfall to get accumulating snowfall now than it did when I was growing up here as a kid. I can remember back in the day, we'd get four inches of snow on the ground in Medford and they didn't cancel school. No.

They may have delayed it, but they didn't cancel it. You get an inch now, and it's like the world's going to end in terms of schools closing and everything else. There's two reasons for that, but chief among them is we just don't get the amounts of snow like we used to, as regularly as we used to. And then the second one and my favorite, stupidly city governments in Medford, or in this area, Medford, sold off all of their snow removal equipment, believing the climate change thing, saying we will never have serious snows in Medford again, therefore we don't need our snow plows. Thank you, Corey Krebin, for one of the most at-night

decisions I ever saw happen. I really appreciate the fact that you hold back on your criticism of that. But all right, Greg, I just wanted to touch in on that because I wanted to settle something before because Linda and I, we had these conversations. I said, Hon, I think we're just kind of going back to what is really more of the normal. Oh, when I moved here, I said, yeah, I know when you moved here, it was cooler, colder, wetter, and a lot rainier in the summer. And that's what she remembered. I said, yeah, but that's not the norm. That's really not what you would call the typical thing. Thank you for settling that.

And then, well, Linda and I did not bet on this, but I had a feeling that I'm gonna ask Greg about that. Why she's remembering it so well, is it stuck out in her mind because she's asking herself, well, what happened to the summers we had when because she's asking herself, well, what happened to the summers we had when I got here? Right. That's what happened.

That's what was going on. People tend to forget that stuff over the march of time. And now, especially with the information overload, it really does amaze me how short people's memories are, especially for things like weather, because they keep filling their brain up with so many other things, that suddenly something maybe not as important to them like weather, they've totally forgotten about. And then all of a sudden, the new reality hits, and then the new reality perception, like a major snowstorm in Medford completely destroying the gymnasium at North Medford

High School. Well, we didn't used to have anything like this. Well, actually, yes, we did. The interesting part about that is, did you ever read that report? I put that report out on the web from it, but it is fascinating. We just know a lot more now. And what was done back then when they put up those trusses, those multiple layer trusses, I forget the exact name of it, but they built it according to the specs of what they knew about that kind of structure back then. And frankly, yeah, it served for 60 something years

and actually performed pretty well. But apparently it was a bit overstressed even from the beginning, really, because they didn't know enough about this long term. It was a relatively new construction technique and now they would have used a thicker beam if they were building it today because of what they knew. What they didn't know then. Well, and they are going to is when they rebuild that facility. But the other part of this is the seeds of that collapse were absolutely planted with the big snow bomb back in 2017. I had no doubt in my mind about that and I said there's the stressing, the micro fractures that began under that snow load in 2017, the snow load

that we got on this big snow event that we had, that's what took that thing down. And there were some other buildings that collapsed as well, and people kind of forgot about that, including that one facility in Phoenix, but you go back and of course North Medford High School gym, that's the big one, everybody knows about that, it was kind of shocking, but it just over the progression of time as you said and considering how they built it for when it was built back in the day, that's not the standard they use now. The new gym definitely is going to be built to a far better standard to both withstand snow load and also be far better seismically.

It was sad that the gym came down and came apart, but what's going to replace it is going to be a whole lot better in terms of structural soundness than what we have. But I think the point to take away from that report is that, no, I mean, you can't really blame anybody for something like that. You're right, the seeds of the destruction happened in earlier stresses, and that's cumulative. You start getting some microfractures in a roof beam, it's not like it heals if you take the load off. It's still there. Exactly. It's still there.

It's still there. So, interesting talk Mr. Outdoors. And by the way, it is impossible to see that stuff at times with the naked eye. There's specialized equipment that you literally have to go through an x-ray to see those micro fractures, but that's a really expensive process as well, which creates a whole nother discussion. All right, indeed. Well, you have yourself a great weekend, and I will too, and why don't we catch up on Thursday of next week, because that'll be the final day, because July 4th will be on a Friday. I totally agree. Oh, speaking of that, pardon. Fireworks tonight with the Medford Rogues, once the game is over, gonna be another 17 minute fireworks show.

And next Friday, the fourth, we have a Rogues game and fireworks. And I can promise you, you won't get closer to a fireworks show anywhere than you do with these fireworks shows they're doing at the Rogues. The only way I've ever been closer to them was when I was with Redmond Fire Department and we were lighting off the fireworks shows in Redmond and I got to be on launch crew twice which is so much fun. Oh it is and that would be a blast it would have to

be it's like the little boy comes out in you in that doesn't it? Oh my gosh is it ever it's like the ultimate in you know you play with things that are legal and of course you know being adventurous maybe things that weren't back in the day like firecrackers and bottle rockets. This is the ultimate in that So much fun, but the interesting thing is you're laying there You're wearing your turnouts in your helmet like you're fighting a fire But you're launching these fireworks and you're looking straight up at them going off over you Yeah, nothing better than that. It is a beautiful thing and we'll just leave that with

Marika, okay. Yeah. All right. Hey Greg. Have a good time thing and we'll just leave that with Marica, okay? Yeah. Alright, hey Greg, have a good time over at Rogue Weather. Great time with the Rogues tonight and enjoy the fireworks and we'll talk Thursday same time, okay? Let's do it then. You got it, Bill. Alright, Greg Roberts at RogueWeather.com, outdoor report sponsored by Oregon Truck and

Auto Authority on Airway Drive in Medford. We appreciate you being here on the Bill Meyers show. Two Dogs Fabricating is your exclusive North Star Flat. It is now time for a Governor Hair Gel news update. In the late great Golden State, it's getting hard to negotiate When you once lived from a grim fate In the late great Golden State Thank you Dwight for the introduction.

Governor Gavin Newsom, also known as Governor Hairgel in my world, has sued Fox News this morning. Just filed it, accusing the network of defaming him and its coverage of a phone call he had with President Trump this month. New York Times reporting the suit filed in Delaware where Fox News is incorporated, seeking damages of at least $787 million. That would help fund a presidential campaign, wouldn't it? And a court order prohibiting Fox News from broadcasting or posting segments that mistakenly

say that Mr. Newsom lied about his call with Mr. Trump. Governor Harjel has adopted an increased bet of approach with the president since Mr. Trump sent military troops to Los Angeles this month. Amid his administration's immigration crackdown, the governor, a Democrat, no kidding, is taking a page from the president by suing a news media outlet over coverage. So there we go, Governor Hairgel suing Fox News. That is the latest here. Supreme Court will get a little bit of news on that coming up. They did kind of rein in

the nationwide injunctions. We'll talk a bit more about that. But that'll be after the Diner 62 Real American Quiz. This is after news. So if you haven't won the Diner 62 Real American Quiz, what are you waiting for? Jump on. 770-5633-770-KMED. All they ask is that you have not won this in the last 60 days. Give somebody a chance. We call it Diner 62 Winner Equity. Okay?

And we'll play that next. One of each, Seltos Vin 823-772-MSRP-20. ...with locations in Medford, Grands Pass, and Klamath Falls. You're here in the Bill Meyers Show on 1063 KMED. MSRP 20. around the Oregon Coastal Hill, bring a little bit of it here, get a cup or a bowl to go, all right? All your hearty breakfast favorites, the omelets, the skillets, the waffles, the biscuits and gravy, chicken fried steak, cinnamon roll french toast, you name it, they have that. I'm kind of partial to their salads too. You know, a lot of diners don't have really good salads. Diner 62 does. Let me go to Melinda. Hi Melinda,. How you doing? Hi, Bill. Good morning. Good morning.

You are first up here. Hey, it was this week, back in 1864, Melinda, that the Union began tunneling towards the rebels at Petersburg. Four years into the Civil War, Pennsylvania troops for the Union began digging a tunnel towards the rebels in order to blow a hole in the Confederate lines and break the stalemate. Great campaign between Robert E. Lee's army of Northern Virginia and Ulysses S. Grant's army of the Potomac ground to a halt in mid-June. So they were battering each other for a month and a half and the armies came to a standstill just south of Richmond and then they got into trenches,

long siege, trench warfare, it's nasty stuff. So the men of the 48th Pennsylvania sought to break the stalemate. They're thinking, all right, let's build a tunnel. It was the brainchild of Lieutenant Colonel Henry Pleasance, and it called for the men of his regiment, mostly miners from Pennsylvania's coal region, this is why they knew how to do it, they built a tunnel to the Confederate line and they wanted to fill it with powder and blow a gap in the fortifications. So June 24th, the plan got approval, and the digging commenced. So the question for their win this morning, Melinda, how long was this tunnel that they dug into rebel territory?

Was it A, a tenth of a mile, B, an eighth of a mile? C. One sixth of a mile? D. A quarter mile? Or was it E. A half mile? How long was that tunnel that those coal miners built? I'd say E. A half mile. You'd say E. A half mile. I wish it were true. You know, it's less than that. But yeah, you know, they could have if they had wanted to, I guess. They had enough time. Let me go to Jeff. Hello, Jeff. Good morning. A tenth of a mile, eighth of a mile, sixth of a mile, or a quarter mile. How long do those Pennsylvania coal miners dig that tunnel? Quarter mile. Quarter mile. Was it

a quarter mile? No, it was less than that. Good try. Let's go to Greg in Central Point first. Hello, Greg. So it. So, it's getting shorter now. Is the tunnel that the Yankees built, was it a tenth of a mile, an eighth of a mile, or a sixth of a mile? What's a U? Let's go one tenth of a mile. One tenth of a mile. Was it one tenth? Yeah. You're a winner! Yeah. Burnside Superiors, General's Grant and George Meade, they didn't really like the project

that much, but they let it happen. So for five weeks the miners dug this shaft. They did about 15 feet a day. It was by hand, so that was rough. Now July 30th, they had a huge bunch of gunpowder stuffed in that, and they lit it. It worked and a huge gap was blown in the rebel line. But poor planning by union officers squandered the opportunity and the confederates closed the gap anyway and the Battle of the Crater as it's now known, an unusual event in an otherwise uneventful summer along the Petersburg line. So there you go Greg from

Central Point a little bit of a Civil War history. Okay, hang on. All right, thank you. Yeah, we're going to take care of it, send you to diner 62, we'll have another one of these coming up. 770-5633, we appreciate you being here. It's open phone time here on The Bill Meyers Show. The iconic song changes by David Bowie was not a hit in 1971. Reaching us happens here on KMED. This is the Bill Meyers show on 1063 KMED. Call Bill now 541-770-5633. That's 770-KMED. I'll buy anything you want this morning here. Oregon Live reporting that Governor Kotec yesterday signed that baseball stadium bill for Portland authorizing up to $800 million in bonds to help pay for a Major League Baseball Stadium in Southwest Portland. signed that baseball stadium bill for Portland, authorizing up to $800 million

in bonds to help pay for a Major League Baseball Stadium in southwest Portland. And a lot of people were writing me about this thing, saying, Bill, we should do something like that down here because, you know, you have the private sector that... and they mistakenly mischaracterized this, I think, because they're saying that, you know, it's not coming from the taxpayers, it's money coming from the ball-payers' salaries, right? And then I'm thinking to myself, well, no, it's a difference without a distinction, really. What they're going to do here, just so you know, is that they'll sell bonds up to $800 million,

and then they use the income taxes that would have gone into the state or into the local government. They'll use the income taxes that would have gone to the state to help pay for stuff like everybody else paying income taxes has to do and then it would go to pay that off. Right? So it's essentially, yeah, the taxpayers paying it through the back door. And I know people say, well, why don't we do this and do the Eugene Emeralds? And so they get a tax break. Well, essentially, that's taxpayer money that would have gone to pay for particular services.

And then you'll have the Democrats then think, gosh, there's a shortage of money and we need to raise transportation taxes, 11.7 billion. And then you'll have the Republicans that are saying, well, there's nothing we can do about it. We have to be here to provide quorum for them and help Democrats pass their legislation. Oh, did I say that out loud? Okay, I'm just thinking this all the time. Yeah, so, yeah, no, it's still the taxpayers end up paying for the ball stadium from the

back door. And then, you know, the part that always paying for the ball stadium from the back door. And then, you know, the part that always gets me is that they'll have these things going out for like 20 or 30 years. And what do you think happens after 20 or 30 years after the taxpayers ended up paying for the ball stadium in Portland and or Medford if they wanted to do something like that? What happens after 20 or 30 years after those bonds are paid off? And it's like, oh, this baseball stadium is a pile of crap. It needs to be redone or raised or, you know, torn down and start again. I just don't think it's the government's job to be

helping Major League Baseball billionaires. It's just my opinion and I know that they're... and I like baseball. I really do. I do. But I like Medford Rogues too. I've got to go there. A lot cheaper. But let me go back to the phones and see what's on your mind today. Hi, good morning! And who might you be? Hey Bill, it's Lucretia. Hi Lucretia. God, I didn't know it was you. I should... gosh, I have to have your your theme here. My mouse isn't working or my track ball. There we go. Got to have you. I have a little theme for you right up on the button, you know, just for you. What's going on? Huh?

Linda wins. What do you mean Linda wins? She wins. Gordon McDonald said, we can't just control the weather, we can control the climate. How do you change the climate, Bill? What is the scientific fact? How do you change the climate? Okay, come on. What we were talking about here at Lucretia was Linda saying that when she moved here in the late 80s, it was wetter and cooler, right? Wetter and cooler is not normal here. You can go back hundreds of years and see wetter and cooler is not normal in

Medford, in our area. Don't talk to me about Gordon McDonald and weather control. Why would Alaska have 21 pyramids and used to be the whole earth used to be tropical. And they're based on the fact. But let me just tell you. Okay, yeah. In other words, the earth was a lot hotter and a lot wetter and also had a lot higher CO2 level too. All right. But you know, they put these monitoring stations in. But as Greg said, this area, they say, say oh they're basing it all on this because they this is hotter. Okay now how do you create hotter in Medford? How do you create hotter scientifically? Yeah well you don't even have to do it

scientifically you just have to build a lot of buildings. No, no climate is primary. I'm reading from Gordon McDonald who is a scientific advisor to LBJ, when he said, whoever controls the weather, controls the world. Okay, but see, you imply that since Gordon McDonald says this, this is what is going on in Medford, and it's nonsense, Lucretia. Okay, no, no, no. Bill, climate is primary determinant. I'm reading his own writings, okay? By the balance between the incoming short wave from the sun, principally light, and the loss of outgoing long wave radiation, supercooled heat, okay, personally,

I'm sorry, principally heat. Now, how do you do that? By the amount of nuclei you put down. But you can also use the, what is it called? The ice. God, what do you call it? The carbon, the ice. That's just like pure carbon dioxide, right? They can release that, and that's how they can change the climate. That's how they can keep it colder. That's how they can create the wind. Okay. Well, then I don't need to worry about global warming because global warming is nonsense change the climate. That's how they can keep it colder. That's how they can create the wind.

Okay. Well, then I don't need to worry about global warming because global warming is nonsense because it's just being controlled by the globalist, Kabal. Okay? All right? Exactly. So there's no point in us talking about this. There's no point in us talking about this. Okay? Then let me ask you. No, no. Don't ask me anything. I don't want to be asked a question about this. All right? No. About your guest yesterday, what did yesterday. I didn't quite get what he said

as far as his proof to support Trump. Okay, his thing is that the Trump administration is going to lose this lawsuit because they are conceding, the CO2 coalition and others are starting with conceding the fact that where they're conceding the liberals take on this that it's human-based climate activity which has only caused the co2 to go up and that's also nonsense he says you can't do that and he has the papers on his side at Barry comm that prove that it is not about human activity okay there we go gotta go all go. All right. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Hello. Hello, Cherry. Go ahead. All right. I've got six great movies. The first is The Cleaner with Daisy Ridley. She was in Star Wars.

And you go, what is The Cleaner about? Well, it's about a window cleaner. And that's all I really should say to be honest. That sounds scintillating, a window cleaner, but you say it's good, huh? Okay. Oh, it's really good. And the pledge with Jack Nicholson, that was when he was about 64 years old. Now he's 88 or whatever. and it's about a retired detective who just can't seem to stay retired. All right, so I'm gonna have to roll through this call pretty quickly this time

unless you want to call back a little later after 830. So give me your list and just give me your name. All right. Give me your list name. So we got the Cleaner, we got the Jack Nicholson movie. What's next? Becky with Bill McKale, Flight Risk with Mark Wahlberg, Dan of Thieves with Gerard Butler, and the last one, Mile 22 with John Malkovich and Mark Wahlberg, 2018. Very good. Good choice. All right. Thank you.

See, Cherry helping us out on the important stuff this weekend. You know, how to decompress from the nonsense around us. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey, good morning. Bill is deplorable, Patrick. Hello, DP. And good morning. And I am so PO'd with the planning of this street thing with this swide walk. All the Highway 62 monstrosity, yes. And it is quite a monument to gangrene planning stupidity.

Yes indeed. Well, I'm having a hard time getting used to just having to go the long way around that area and I wind up stuck in it. And so I don't know if we're going to be able to benefit from the National Motorists Association. Somebody needs to bring a lawsuit. I don't know if we're going to have to do it ourselves, but what I would love to see is these people who did this explaining to a jury, are you just that stupid that you didn't know we're going to tie up traffic like this? You couldn't do traffic studies and predict this?

Oh, they did. They did traffic studies. But you have to understand, if you look back at the studies that were done prior to this, the major concern was that pedestrians on the sidewalks were feeling stressed walking on a normal-sized sidewalk next to the traffic going by the mall. There's actually part of the study there. You should look it up. It's quite interesting. And this was the emphasis, but this is a state policy, the multimodal push for this. In other words, a street that has lines on it and designed for cars and trucks is not supposed to be for cars and trucks. It's supposed to be for nervous pedestrians, you know, the handful that

would be on those sidewalks trying to Yeah, we have a lot of psychologists that need to be attacking now I don't know what level the city of Medford had to sign off on this and you you almost get to the point where you You start getting migraines By looking at how much of this was based on past city councils or past street things It may be connected with with grant stream funding I don't know the problem is that it's already been done and so how to get it undone after the fact would be quite a challenge, okay, so I feel your pain and

Start my eyes are starting to vibrate in a tick as I think about that project. Let me go to the next line. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello? Brian Weldon. Brian, go ahead. Yes, Park Watch.

I just want to remind everybody on a very good note, we're having a beautiful kids' day in the park, Riverside Park, upper disabled. Will you be out picking up needles and doing things like that to make the park safe or not? No. Or do you have to do that? No, we've already done that for years now. This is a day for children to have a huge amount of fun. We have raffles, we have lots of toys to give away, jewelry, fishing poles, RC airplanes, We have a big foam pool. It's gonna be a blast.

Free hot dogs for children. And Park Watch is tomorrow when and where? Tomorrow, Riverside Park, Upper Gazebo on Park Street from one o'clock until five o'clock. Very good. Thank you, Brian. And you have a good turn out there, okay? Tell us how it goes next week. I'll take one more. Hi, good morning. Hey, Matt.

Go ahead. I just wanted to comment on not climate, just the weather. In the 30, almost 32 years I've lived here, here's what I've noticed. Now, I live about nine miles outside of the center of Grants Pass towards Wilderville, and you couldn't used to get enough wind in the afternoon to fly a kite when my kids were little. We finally gave up. We just like put them on a shelf and said, I guess the wind just doesn't blow here. I will say that we get a lot more wind almost every day when we get into like spring all the way through summer and into fall. we get a lot more wind almost every day when we get into like spring all the way through summer and into fall we get a great breeze in the afternoon. We never had that. Never. Well I'm sure that I'm sure that Dr. blah blah

blah McDonald has an explanation for this. Yeah probably. The other thing I noticed is when I mowed my yard, there's certain bugs you come across. I started coming across grasshoppers. I had not seen a grasshopper like en masse until about three years ago here. So when I mowed my yard, they're hopping all over the place. The other thing I noticed is I'm seeing a lot more snakes. No rattlesnakes, just gardener snakes, racer snakes. And the only lizards we have here are skinks and we've had those since I moved here. But those are,

you know, in the last 32 years, those are the things that I've noticed that are different. And it's obvious what you're saying about, you know, the city being warmer, because by the time I would get home leaving town, the temperature might be, you know, 94 degrees in town and it's about sometimes 87 degrees by the time I get home. Yeah, there is a huge difference and the more that we develop, the more that we develop and every city has been developing, Grants Pass has grown monumentally over the last 20, 30 years. Same with Medford. You know, you look at all of these huge developments that are up in the higher hills, east side, kind of

east of even where I live, that didn't exist. It didn't go, you know, and you don't have to go back that long to recognize a time that, when that didn't exist, there was time, like I said, you know, John Schleining, developer, ended up being required by the city to do something else back in the day. He had to build these McAnders to get up in those areas. And that's where all the housing went too. So there is a reaction to it.

I'm sure that there are top CIA things going on and weather wars going on. I'm not doubting that, but what I can't handle that makes my teeth hurt is that everything we're doing is absolutely controlled. There's just a massive hubris that is connected with that, with every aspect of the climate is being changed and done by a deep cabal. You know what what these things are just like the stock market they go in cycles they just it's just you know this is the thing that blew my mind when they first started talking about climate change and they would look at their models right i remember Al Gore getting up there

and what's it called inconvenient truth or some of his nonsense yeah and i said i said here's here's how i this is the analogy i used to describe people's complete misunderstanding of what the cycle is and the weather. You've got a giant portrait in front of you that's like 10 feet by 10 feet, and we're trying to determine what's painted on that picture by looking at the bottom 0.0001% of the painting. And so we're going to look at that little corner and based upon the information in the little corner, we're going to look back what, hundreds of millions, billions of years and we're going to determine, you know, all the weakens roll into the ice.

I mean, come on, even if you go to the Arctic or the Antarctic, how many times has the ice melted and come back and melted and come back and melted and come back? Or we look at CO2 levels and all that stuff. I think in that regard, the weather is what it is, the climate is what it is. I'm with Trump. If I have clean water and clean air and I can water my food crops and all the other stuff. What else matters? Well, ultimately, I think the other way you have to look at a lot of this is that climate changing in certain areas is not a world problem. It ends up being a real estate problem in certain areas.

And there are areas of the world that have become much more habitable. I mean, even look at the Sahara Desert, which is greening with higher levels of CO2 out there. And then there are other areas that might have ocean rise and causing problems. It is a real estate problem. It is not necessarily an earth problem. It's kind of what I'm getting at. And there are times that the ocean has been much higher. There are times it's been much lower. We all know this.

When you look at science and where science has been able to take us, I think science can resolve. Look, Mother Nature could whip us if Mother Nature wants to. That's the bottom line. But science, look at, we have air conditioning now. And all over America, we have air conditioning. We have heat, we have all kinds of science that keeps us comfortable. Yeah, we use technology to adapt to that change in the environment. Point well taken, Matt.

I got a role here, okay? Coming up, I have Tim Keller standing by because we want to talk about the tech. RFK Jr. wants you to be wearing wearables. We have to be wearing high tech in order to be healthy. Does this make sense? Tim Keller is going to talk about that and more. And he's from... what is his company again?