Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 07-03-25_THURSDAY_7AM

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Greg Roberts from Rogue Weather has the outdoor report and more, we talk some politics, attacking deer, later Attorney Stephen Joncus discusses a Covid-era case re vax mandates that could go to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at ClouserDrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. All right. Mr. Outdoors joins me right now. Mr. Outdoors, I was just pulling up a post here from State Representative Duane Younger. First off, how are you doing, Mr. Outdoors, Greg Roberts, at RogueWeather.com?

Good to have you on. I am doing great this morning, Bill, and hope you are, hope our listeners are. So you were telling me about this off air, and now I've got to hear this. Okay, yeah. This is apparently, this is from state Rep. Wayne Younger, and he says, I hope this is fake but if it's not, it proves how broken our mental health system is in this country. The president is living rent free in these people's heads. So this is what's going on.

And it appears to be a leftist in his man bun, an older guy, older guy in his man bun, and he's concerned about illegal immigration again. I can't believe I've just heard this. Did you know this? concerned about illegal immigration again. I can't believe I've just heard this. Did you know this? Trump, he has ordered the illegals to be shackled, flown out over the ocean and thrown out into the ocean. That's right.

How is that possible? Just taking people, just ripping them off the streets, ripping your friends, your neighbors, your relatives. He's taking them, putting metal on them like the slaves of the past, flying them out over the ocean, and throwing them out. Yeah, and he's really worked up over this one, Mr. Alperos. Well, now that's kind of ironic. The irony part is the slaves reference. Yeah.

When you listen to the Democrats right now and what they're lamenting about the illegals being deported and claiming, we won't have anybody left to work in the restaurants and clean our dishes. We won't have anybody left to work on the farms and provide our food. It's a slave reference. Pretty much. Well, I couldn't help but notice the reference though,

what this, I don't know if this was true or not, but it sure looked convincing and certainly sounded convincing. It was just going on and on. I know. Somebody told him this is what was going on, and he totally believed it. Now, something like this... The sad state of affairs right now is the more ludicrous and ridiculous something is, the more people want to glom onto it like flies on flypaper. Oh, absolutely. And by the way, there is a historical reference to this, alright? And it was called the Caravan of Death, alright? And this was a Chilean army death squad. This was under Pinochet.

So essentially what he did is that they took and threw the opposition out of the helicopters and they did that over in the bay. And Augusto Pinochet was apparently behind that. He was indicted for it in 2002, but he died before a verdict could be rendered on it. So, you know, there is absolutely no evidence that President Trump is going out there and yanking people off the street and engaging in his own caravan of death. Okay, we just wanted to be clear about this. Yeah, there's absolutely no truth to any of that. And he can't be any more clear.

And I don't even know how many times I've heard him address it directly, because unlike our past president, he engages with the press and will answer questions every single day, multiple times a day. You sometimes wonder why he has a press secretary, because he's more than capable of engaging and answering his own questions and stating exactly what he feels. He doesn't need anybody to run interference for him. And he's been very clear about the fact we have so much to do just going out and getting rid of the criminals and those type of people before we would ever get to anybody else.

But he said, yes, we are directly working with the agriculture industry. Yeah, he is talking about, he's going to be extending some exceptions for this because he is rather concerned about that. And so this kind of stupid ludicrous crap, to be perfectly honest for who they are rounding up right now, considering what those people are, some of the absolute worst of the worst, I wouldn't be opposed to what that person described that they're doing. I mean, I'm gonna tell you something,

right here where I live, directly across the townhouse complex from us, we have a family from Ghana. They went through the process, they are about to become naturalized citizens. Right next door to us, we have a family from Mexico that when they first moved in, they were here on a visa and they were very proud about that. And they have worked their butts off, done everything they needed to do, they are now naturalized citizens. Both of my neighboring households are probably some of the most

outspoken people I've talked to recently against illegal immigration. Yeah, they get it. All right, Mr. Outdoors, we'll kind of set that aside here at the moment, but I had to play that clip because... I would imagine that guy is going to be out at, you know, they're doing another No Kings protest on Independence Day tomorrow. Oh my gosh, and you know that's ultimately ironic because, well, Fourth of July independence, that was the ultimate no-kings. And so these fools running around who desperately need therapy and medication can delude themselves into thinking that Trump's trying to be a king. He's not. But yeah, it's ironic they would do it on Independence Day. All righty. Outdoor report, we'll move into that now. It's going to be a beautiful bunch of days coming up here.

Outdoor report, we'll move into that now. It's going to be a beautiful bunch of days coming up here. Oh yeah, oh is it ever. I mean we're looking at maybe even a couple degrees below average temperatures for Medford and Grants Pass for tomorrow, and then Saturday's going to be beautiful. So in terms of the fact there's going to be so much outdoor activity, things going on, parades, community celebrations, you name it, to get a forecast that will be sunny and dry and temperatures pretty much where they should be at the time of the year, you can't ask for anything better than that from the weather standpoint. You just can't. Now are we going to be getting back into close to a hundred next

week or are we still going to stay pretty much around normal for the next week? We grind up back up being up upper 90s around a hundred but again when you start looking at what the daily records are like, yes it will be hot, but it's not going to be really unseasonably hot by any stretch. So yeah, at least for the weekend and certainly tomorrow, we get supremely great weather when everybody wants to be outdoors and doing something. And then next week when, well, a lot of people returning back to work, that's when the heat kicks back on here.

And you know, that's just, hey, summer in Southern Oregon. But again, this is not anything out of the normal, and we're certainly not going to be anywhere near records, that's for sure. All right. How about the fishing conditions this weekend? What are you thinking? Well, yeah, the fishing conditions are going to be very good pretty much everywhere inland. Fishing is still holding up, and you know, the water, basically anywhere you find it,

is still pretty cool. And what we see, especially with trout fishing right now, is in the early mornings and before the sun is really on the water the fish will be A, up near the surface and B, in tight to shore and then as the sun comes up on the water and really takes effect they move into deeper water. The people who will probably have the best overall success will be in boats because then they can reach the deeper water when the fish move out there. But first thing in the morning, and I'm going to define first thing in the morning as when fishing light hits, so basically a quarter to five a.m.,

if you start fishing as soon as fishing light hits and you don't have a boat, you're probably going to have good success fishing from the bank shore, whatever you want to call it, on any of our bodies of water. And then when the fish move deeper, well then you can go catch up on the sleep that you lost when you got up early to go fishing. All right. Hey Greg, I was reading a story in Rogue Valley Times, and it had to do with a woman who was attacked and pretty badly hurt in Ashland last week by a deer.

Is there any way that, shy of shooting them, I know they've had deer summits around here in southern Oregon, is there anything that you can actually do to make these areas a little more deer unfriendly? Woman has a bunch of staples in her arm, in her arm after just walking her dog and the doe comes out there and just kicks the living daylights out of her. It really hurt her pretty badly. Well, there's the key. The dog and the doe. There was a fawn or fawns right there, and that's why the attack happened. The doe wasn't necessarily attacking the human, it was far more directed at the dog who happened

to be with the human and probably went to the human for protection from the doe. So this... No, actually the dog, her dog ran home. The dog ran home actually, from what I understand. Okay, well the dog then cut and run and then, you know, unfortunately she had to take the brunt of the attack. But that happens, and we have had those kind of things happen before in Ashland, in Jacksonville. The tough part is you're going to have to really change a lot of human nature because everybody wants to treat those animals as pets.

Oh, look at our beautiful deer that we have right here in our city. And then you know the tough part is the deer are still the deer. They don't care whether they're living in the city of Ashland or whether they're on Mount Ashland. When they have their babies, their protection instinct is going to kick in. And May, June, right now, not a great time to be out walking your dog, especially where you're in a park or vegetation or someplace where does are going to be putting their fawns, and then you come along because then the doe is going to be doing what they do to protect their babies. So how do we prevent

this? Well, number one, you quit treating deer like pets and you quit feeding them. I mean that... So is feeding it most of the attracted, not the fact that they're not hunted in the cities? Yep, without any question. It's the fact that people, ODF&W is well aware of this, Wildlife Services is well aware of this. People are feeding and coddling the deer and treating them like their pets, especially in Ashland and Jacksonville, and sadly then you set the table for things like this to wind up happening. The other thing is, the deer realize, well, in town we're going to have to put up with far fewer cougars,

even though cougars are definitely in Jacksonville and Ashland both. I've seen pictures and videos of a mountain lion taking down a deer literally right behind SOU. So, you know, nature moves in and people, like I said, the bigger issue here is human nature. So if we were to just really... It's against the law to feed them. Okay, it's against the law to feed them, but people feed them anyway? Is that what I'm hearing there? Right.

Okay. Yep. All right, human nature, doing dumb stuff. All right. Yeah, and unfortunately, you will get things like this resulting. I mean, we have had it happen before. Jacksonville and Ashland is where I'm aware of it. It may have happened elsewhere, you know, here immediately in our area, but I just wasn't aware of it. But

unfortunately, those two cities are kind of the crown jewels of what you shouldn't be doing with deer. You should never turn them into pets. Fair enough. Mr. Outdoors with me this morning. The Outdoors report sponsored by Oregon Truck and Ottawa Authority on Airway Drive in Medford. Grab a call for you. Hey, you want to talk with Mr. Outdoors? Caller? Hello? Yes, sir. This is Lauren at Niggle Point. Yeah, Lauren, go ahead.

I've got a question. Greg, are there any fires burning down in Northern California? Last night I looked down that way about seven o'clock-ish and I saw billowing and I didn't know if it was clouds or smoke. So this question for you, sir. At seven o'clock what you were seeing was the thunderstorm that developed on Mount Shasta, and that's kind of interesting because we all know Shasta can create its own weather. Yesterday evening, it graphically displayed that by generating a thunderstorm.

But to answer your question, there are two main fires down there they're actively working on. One of them is the Summit Fire in the wilderness area on the west side of Siskiyou County and unfortunately overnight it did have a run. Winds must have hit and that thing blew up during the night but then settled back down again by this morning when that little front went through and then the winds died down. They also have the horse fire going in Shasta

County to the west of Lakehead and I-5 and at the report this morning that fires up to 150 acres but it too also settled down pretty substantially but watching all the imagery neither one of those put up a big, huge, billowing pyrocumulus column over the fires. So what you saw was definitely the thunder heads and the thunderstorm that built up on Mount Shasta. All right, very good. Hey, thanks for the call, Loren. I think this is Chris. Chris, you had a question for Mr. Outdoors? Go ahead. Yeah, is he online? Yeah, you're here. Go ahead.

Is he listening? If I say you're on the air, Chris, go ahead. Well, I disagree with Greg about the deer. They're not pets. They're skittish. And you go to any range and main buildings by Rogue River. You can get any deer food you want. There is no food out there at this time of year for deer to eat. A lot of

them you can see their ribs sticking out, even the beer. They get really skinny and this time the mothers need milk. I have no problem feeding the deer. All our deer are nice and fat, and there's a lot of babies around the Foots Creek area, and I disagree with Greg. Okay, all right. Chris, I appreciate your opinion. And what do you think about that, Greg? Well, to each their own, and I vehemently disagree with him. I'll tell you, just by the way he talks, I probably disagree with him on probably 99.9% of life and what he's saying that you should do. Well, contact Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife if you don't believe me.

Contact Oregon State Police and find out how legal it is to be feeding deer. Okay, will do. Greg, appreciate the take on it and we'll have you back at your normal time next Friday, but we're gonna be out doing all the good stuff like you're going to be doing. Now, fireworks tomorrow night at the Rogues, right? Yeah, absolutely and you know, I think we've even said it here, you will not get closer to fireworks going off than being at Harry and David Field at the Rogues game. It's kind of neat in a way, and it's amazing that you get to be that close. The only way I've ever been closer to fireworks going off was the two times

when I was with Redmond Fire Department when I was on the launch crew lighting off the fireworks on the 4th of July in Redmond. Yep, best job ever, okay. Hey Greg, have a great weekend. Tomorrow night, then you get the fireworks when the game is over. So pretty unbelievable deal and an awful lot of fun. So if you think you want to do that, you probably better get to MedfordRogues.com right now and get tickets because they were selling extremely well

you know even in the weeks up to and now that we're on the week of the fourth of July they started really going and then the Rogues put up a special yesterday where you can sit on the patio on the deck which is a great spot to watch the game from it's right by the Rogues dugout and it includes food and beverage with it too for 20 bucks. It's an unbelievable deal and those from the time they were released yesterday they started selling very fast. All right Greg, hey I appreciate the take on it. We'll have you back at normal time next week and a great weekend to be a Rogues fan no doubt. All right thanks for the call. Of course, Greg Roberts once again, roguewether.com.

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Get your tickets today and be part of rock history with Kansas. Hi, I'm Mark with Oregon Truck and Auto Authority and I'm on KMED. 739, attorney Stephen Yonkis joins me and yonkis.net, J-O-N-C-U-S dot net and he's working to get a case into the Supreme Court involving COVID. Stephen, it's great to have you on. Good morning. Good morning. Glad to be with you. Just to correct you a little bit, my name is pronounced Jankus. Oh, it's Jankus. Like John. Oh, okay. Pardon me. And here it is.

No worries. And I've been in courtrooms with you, Stephen. Somehow I missed that. But you know something I did look up though on how to pronounce, and that is the writ of what? Sir Sherari, all right? Yep. And so this way I could sound smarter than I really am about about legal events. But if you could first tell me a little bit about your legal practice because you do a lot of civil rights work, don't you? Yeah, I was a patent attorney up until the governor of Oregon mandated the COVID vaccine. And I just could not stand the tyranny of that action.

And I switched over to basically being 100% civil rights. Not 100%, because I represented other people that you know about. But I sued Governor Brown back in 2021 to stop the COVID, the vaccine mandate. That also went to the Supreme Court. It was ultimately denied last October. But this is another case on COVID

that I'm taking to the Supreme Court. It's my fourth case overall that I filed petitions on in the Supreme Court. It's my fourth case overall that I filed petitions on in the Supreme Court. The others were... I represented Dr. Paul Thomas, who was a pediatrician who lost his license, and then I represented Mark Fieldman, challenging Oregon's election system. Yeah, now, I tell you, Dr. Paul, you know, what happened to him. My goodness, what an amazing attack on... I mean, groupthink really came down on him hard, didn't they? Yep. Yeah, tyranny is all around us and is a target rich environment.

know, just a personal opinion, not necessarily a legal opinion, but in your opinion, is the Oregon system more tyrannical than maybe some other states or are we unique in that? Well, these are all federal court cases, but Oregon's on the left coast and California's perhaps worse, but Oregon is trying to catch up to Big Brother California as fast as it can, the same thing with Washington. So those three states are absolutely crazy. And the Ninth Circuit, of course, part of that too. Let's talk then about this case that you are looking to get the attention of the Supreme Court.

Apparently, is it quite an honor to be actually able to argue before the Supreme Court or be eligible to do something like that? What is that process like before we go to this Wilkins case? Well, you have to file an application and you have to get other attorneys to be admitted to the Supreme Court. You have to have another attorney vouch for your ethics. And then you have to pay a fee. So a lot of people are admitted to the Supreme Court, but it's a process. So there is a hurdle to get admitted to the Supreme Court.

And some people go there to be sworn in by the Supreme Court in person. I did not do that, but that option is there. So it is somewhat of an honor. All right, very good. There is no such thing as a pro se case then, someone doing their own court case and going all the way to the Supreme Court, I'm assuming? There have been. There have been, but I don't know anyone who has been granted. So it's really tough to get a case accepted by the Supreme Court to actually hear the case. The first step is to file a petition for Rudy Cerciori, and there are process who have filed that and some famous ones, but I don't know that any proceeds have been granted.

So to get the attention of the Supreme Court, you better be an attorney in good standing and being a pro, essentially is what you're saying, Cyril. So let's talk then about Keith Wilkins' case. And he's an Oregon man, resident. He's the petitioner in this particular case, and you're involved in this. What has happened up to this point? We're going back to what, 2020, 2021? Yeah, so he was subject, he was a school teacher in Bend and the Bend-LaPine school district and he refused to wear a mask and he challenged the administration on their mask wearing policy, saying that it was child abuse for the children.

And he also refused the COVID vaccine mandate. So they put him on unpaid leave. And this is a story that's repeated thousands of times around the state, maybe hundreds of thousands of times around the state, maybe hundreds of thousands of times around the country with these tyrannical mandates. He sued, I represented him suing Ben Lepine School District and some of the administrators. We lost to the district court, we lost in the Ninth Circuit, and now we're trying to get the U.S. Supreme

Court to accept the case. What is the ask here and what is perhaps unique? I mean not that you're giving away any particular legal secrets here but the courts have been sort of looking askance at really granting people any justice it seems to me. Am I wrong about that? Kind of the way the courts have been looking at this. And it's like that happened then, that's now, you were really sorry, but too bad, so sad, move along, I guess. You're completely right. We have not come anywhere close to a reckoning on what happened to us during COVID. And the courts are particularly bad in recognizing the tyranny that's gone on.

And in this case, I'm asserting that Keith has a right of informed consent. and that's in the statute. And so it's based on his statutory right to informed consent. When the federal government allowed for what was called an emergency use authorization, which was basically use of an experimental drug or an experimental medical device in an emergency, it did not forget the right of informed consent, and it wrote that into the statute. But every court in the country has viewed that statute as being, that right as being only enforceable by the United States and cannot be enforced by a private

person. And that's the basic issue that's in the front of the Supreme Court right now. And this is not any old right. It's not a run-of-the-mill right. This is a right to a conformed consent for an experimental drug. It dates back to the Nuremberg Code. to a conformed consent for an experimental drug. Now dates back to the Nuremberg Code. People were hanged after World War II for experimenting on humans.

And that's what this was. The COVID drugs were all experimental. The masks were experimental. They were only authorized by an emergency use authorization, making them experimental. Everyone had an absolute right to refuse to take those drugs and to put on a mask without any consequences.

And that's what's written into the Nuremberg Code. The Nuremberg Code is not a statute in the United States. But this, the statute that allowed for the emergency use of an experimental drug did include a right of informed consent. And so far no court has recognized that a individual can sue for violation of that right. So that's what this case is about. Interesting. Steven Junk is with me and Junk is law in Happy Valley, Oregon in petitioning for the Supreme Court for Keith Wilkins from the Bend area. You had mentioned, Steven, that this was, that this rule about you have the right to inform consent

that this rule about you have the right to inform consent is not being allowed to be enforced on the individual or at the individual level. It's like, well, if it's not applicable or enforceable at the individual level, only the federal government could enforce it? Is that what the courts have been saying up to this point that only Fedgov would have control of that? Really? Yes, which is insane. Because the biggest perpetrator of these mandates of this, of violating this rule, is the federal government. So, is the federal government going to run around the country protecting each individual

who is mandated to take a drug? No, of course they're not. My petition has lots of reasons why, if not just the federal government and there's an individual right. You can read my petition fairly easily by going to the Supreme Corps website and looking it up. It's very easy to find. But one example of why this right is an individual right and it is a very significant right is that they put in the law only one single exception to the requirement to inform people of this

right that's in the statute. That single exception requires a presidential finding that there's a national security issue requiring use of this drug and then only as to the military. So that is the only exception. So that means if you're a soldier or you're in the Navy, some branch of the military, the president can make that order and yeah you take it and too bad so sad if you don't want to you just leave the military I guess if you don't want to but that exception is only for the military. that means that everybody else, every, the hospitals, the Ben School District, Ben Lepine, whoever ended up, you know,

cracking down on people, they fall under informed consent. They're supposed to. Is that the implication of this? Yes, and we, that's why I say the wrecking has not even started yet because all these institutions, including hospitals, I'm suing hospitals right now for people being fired, they are sticking with the lie that the vaccines were safe and effective, and the masks were necessary, this fiction that was built up. And this is really overall a much bigger issue about what COVID was about, and how it came about, and what the countermeasures the vaccines were all about and It gets very dark

So people who want to research that I would recommend they go look up David a Hughes he has a Substack If you just go to sub stack comm and you look up his publications, it's at D Hughes and he has written a book called The Psychological Operations and the War for Technocracy. So this was all intentional. COVID wasn't intentional. The vaccines were intentional and unfortunately it was intentional that they want to kill a lot of people

which is what the vaccines did that's pretty strong a statement coming from uh... officer of the court arts but it's a truth it's a truth and and the courts have refused to recognize that my other case they refused to even address the question of whether it's legal to mandate an experimental drug on a human being. They just refused to answer the question. Now, it was only 75 years ago that we answered that. Humanity answered that question,

and it's called the Nuremberg Code. What is it about today's courts that have made them so reticent to address this? Because looking at history would seem, if anything, I mean how can you have informed consent on an emergency use authorized drug? You know, a drug which is in by definition, they're you know, experimental. And how can anybody claim safe and effective out of something like that in that sort of a system? Well, the propaganda campaign that persuaded people to get this voluntarily, we've never seen a propaganda campaign like this before. And then you should really read David Hughes' book to get a sense of it. Basically, our government turned its military-grade psychological operations used in other countries

on its own people, on us. Our own government did that to us. And it persuaded us that COVID itself was a scary disease, which it was not. And it persuaded us that we had to get this vaccine. It was the only solution, which it was not. It was not a solution at all. The outcomes are much worse for people who took the vaccine.

But they persuaded 75% of the population in the United States and around the world to take this poisonous drug. And so far, that poisonous drug has killed 17 million people worldwide, over a million people in the United States. And the carnage is continuing because it is a slow, basically it's a time bomb in your body. And people who got it should do everything they can to detoxify themselves. Now, a lot of practitioners are working with it right now. Steven Junk is with me, attorney, and working for a region of certiorari to Supreme Court

for Keith Wilkins. What is your ask, assuming that, you know, I pray that the Supreme Court will take this case and settle this once and for all. What is the ask of this petition, though? So the petition is asking for the Supreme Court to grant a certiorari, which means if they take the case, which is about a one in 100 chance, one percent chance, they get 80,000 cases a year and they only take 80. So that is the huge hurdle to, is to get the court to accept the petition.

Once that happens, then there'll be more briefing. But in order to get the court to accept the petition, we are looking for what's called an amicus briefs, friends of the court briefs. And these are individuals or organizations that have an interest in this case, not an interest financial issue, but an interest in the subject matter, and they can write an amicus brief. They need to have a lawyer who's admitted to the Supreme Court, and the deadlines for those briefs are August 1, and they have to give 10 days notice to the parties.

So really, you've got to back up from August 1, the deadline to actually decide you're going to do this is ten days before August 1. That's what you're looking for right now is people who are willing to weigh in and say, yes, you have a real case here. This is an important constitutional issue and please court look at this and here's why and that's what you're looking for right now yeah what's this call the amicus briefs and they're they're legal briefs uh... supporting uh... the petition

with uh... you know uh... evidence and and legal argument on so you need a lawyer to support the petition. The most effective amicus briefs are from organizations like if Children's Health Defense or something like that, file an amicus brief that would have a lot of weight, or if a doctor filed an amicus brief. So those are the kinds of people we'd like to have file amicus briefs.

If you end up getting your hearing to the Supreme Court or get your case before the Supreme Court, is there an ask for damages or are we just talking about, hey, what does informed consent really mean? What does the emergency use authorization really convey and what it can't do that's what i'm trying to uh... drilling to your steven oh i think so the case was dismissed before you got started so we're asking for it ultimately for the court to reverse the lower courts and sent it back to the trial court

uh... to uh... begin litigation in the case uh... so that's what we're asking the Supreme Court to do, to reverse the Ninth Circuit and find that Keith Willikens did have a right of informed consent under the statute. He could sue. He's allowed to sue. So it's sent it back to the District Court, District of Oregon, to go through the discovery process and then have a trial and then, you know, whatever damage, whatever the jury comes up with then is that the process we're looking to be able to proceed with. So essentially Keith and other people like Keith have never even really had their day in court, right? They've never been able to take this to trial because the

courts have been so absolutely dead set against this. Wow, this is fascinating. I think people have some questions for you Stephen, could you hold on for a couple minutes and then we take a call or two before this? I want to make sure. Yeah, because this is a big deal, okay? Talking with Stephen Junkis, attorney, 770-5633, we'll continue with him next.