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Episode Date: July 6, 2026

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This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. Marla Estes rejoins the program and she is a building bridgers. God loves you, Marla. Welcome back to the show. Good to have you on.

Thank you so much. All right. Now, you have this. I mentioned briefly last week. We had you on for a few minutes last week. And I want to make sure we gave you another shout for tomorrow night. It's the start of the Better Together Film Festival. And this was put on by the Listen First Coalition.

It's like 550 organizations trying to reduce polarization. And I was thinking to myself, oh, good goodness. Good luck is what I'm thinking on this. Is it just mayor? Does it seem to be more polarized here in Southern Oregon and elsewhere? than ever before, even through the... I mean, we had Oregon not even sending anything to the Fourth of July celebrations

over the weekend, because nobody sent anything to our booth. It was an open booth. Couldn't get together, even talk about Oregon's good things. What's going on here, huh? What are you doing to help? Like, I'm going to share with the audience that before we got live, you called me the patron state of lost causes.

But I mean that affectionately. I mean, I really do, you know. I totally get it, but I see that, but I also see potential. You do. Okay. I do. And, you know, I track media pretty well, and I see both evidence that things are getting worse and things are getting better. So I kind of hold those both like, yeah, probably both are true at the same time.

And I'm just holding out for the small sphere of influence that I might have to make people's individual personal lives better, that they can be a little less polarized, a little less scared of the other, those kind of things. So I'm just looking real micro level here for me. You know, is there a case to be made here, Marla, that I think maybe the recent developments here, especially with frankly what many would term open communists like the Mamdani's of New York as an example. That seems to be a little bit different, though, from your traditional rank and file Democrat. Is that not something to be a concerned about in your view? How do you see it?

You know, I steer really clear of those kind of discussions. You do, huh? Yeah, because I'm trying to enter in a little below all that. So we see people more as people as humans than their labels. So in some cases, I know it seems like a paradox. that how can I talk about politics without talking about politics? Exactly, especially the current politicians, right, who are actually doing it. Right, because part of the problem is just by speaking of it, it's a theory.

But I'll tell you one thing I am doing, this is kind of off topic, but I've started doing classes on looking at past policies. Like I did a presentation a few weeks ago about looking at banning plastic bags. So we looked back at the history and got some kind of non-triggering facts about, is it really helpful or not. So I titled this thing when good intentions meet complex problems. You know, I'm glad you brought that up because, in fact, I seem to recall that it was even Republican. There was a, what was it, one of the Atkinsons. Jason Atkinsons, I think, was big, was a big part of that from the Republican side wanting to ban plastic bags.

and, you know, he'd always talked about the, you know, that they were out in the streams, et cetera, et cetera. I'm kind of curious what you found out, though. I haven't looked into this issue here for a while. But so, okay. What are those fact-y facts about plastic bag vans? Well, you know, the thing is, is that what I've understood, and I'm going to send you my video on this, actually.

Okay. But that they wanted in Oregon anyway, they wanted to really reduce. They wanted to make sure people use single-use bags more than once. So when we really worked on that part of it, it was, well, did it really change? Because they banned the thin plastic giveaways, but then they allowed thicker plastic giveaways, but they kind of figured that it wasn't really helping reduce single-use plastic. So then now on January 1st, what I've understood is they're making all these plastic checkout bags. They're banning them.

But also the problem is then people just buy thicker plastic bags instead of using the throwaway ones for like dog poop and leftovers and wet bathing suits. Yeah, that's what I would. I tended to use the thin bags several times usually, but until it finally became a kitty litter bag. And then that was the final use, you know? Exactly. But the thing is, what I'm thinking about is that when we, policy is a prediction of human behavior. So humans are going to do that. They're going to have workarounds or they're going to not always obey. And I think this is one of the big deals is what one thinks of human nature. Well, I mean, even look at fireworks laws over the weekend.

So what? Huh? Well, I'm not even going to go there because I don't understand why we're selling fireworks in the county, but that's just me. Okay. Well, sorry, we could agree to disagree on that one. But, yeah, I think if people are living in the rural area, they're probably agreeing with you on that. All right. So, yeah, so you're trying to avoid the knee-jerk, right? The knee-jerk reaction. Right. Okay. So what, you know, with these films that I'm showing, one tomorrow night and one next week, it's about getting under the issues themselves and looking at the human aspect of no matter where you're sitting on the political spectrum.

And really, see, the problem is, Bill, if we're too triggered by something we stop being able to think clearly about things, right? That's physiological. So that's why I don't talk about politics to begin with because I lose people. They double down on their positions. They don't come again. They think bridging is nonsense. So I try to make it so we can examine other points of view from other people, other insights. Because I think both sides, if we want to just make it into two sides,

have things to offer to the, to the, um, conversation. Yeah. And sometimes there are three sides or more. Oh, they're more. I don't know you talk to. But yeah, we do tend to look at it through a, uh, a binary choice, you know, uh, political Pepsi, political Coke, you know, that kind of thing, right? Exactly. And then we're wired for that. We're wired to simplify. But, but simplification for complexity doesn't, they're not good bedfellows. Yeah, but we're also wired to, uh, be very tribal. which would mean that, yeah, you would tend to fear the other. Right, but we are also wired to collaborate and cooperate. So how do we move the needle?

Okay. I'm more interested in moving the needle. But we can't collaborate with someone who we think is an existential threat. Yeah, if someone is, if a Trump voter as an example is, well, I'll give you an example. Now, I'll talk a little bit of politics. I'm not going to ask your opinion of the politics. It's not that. My sister is of the very hard political.

left. I never talk politics about her. But if I try to call her and talk about just what's going on with her and the family, the first thing she usually starts off with is something along the lines of, I'm so disappointed in you that you voted for a man that's trying to kill my children. That's how the conversation start, right? I understand. Yeah. I understand. And so I say, and I say, sis, I'm here to talk about you. How are you doing? You know? And so I, I guess, I guess this is a multifaceted problem here that we're struggling with right now in the tribalism. Exactly. And yeah, so I want you to watch the film that I'm going to show tomorrow night. This is a great segue. Yeah, this one is called My Omaha is what it is. My Omaha.

My Omaha, and it's about, basically about a father and son. There's other threads to it, but we're focusing on that. and the boy, the son was brought up in a conservative Christian household, and he changes his mind about things, and he wants to talk to his dad about, you know, to try to come to some, well, they try to talk about it. And so they have these conversations that he films, and spoiler alert, but they do this anyway in the blurbs, the father gets cancer. Oh. And it is so beautiful, Bill, about them just having the conversation and being willing. And really, at the end, I've got chills and I'm getting teary. All there is is love. I have to ask, you know, it's like this reminds me that kind of thing in which

dad gets cancer and then all of a sudden, does the politics really matter? Exactly. And so why can't we live like that before we need a terrible cancer diagnosis or some tragedy? But if our nervous systems are so worked up about being right and the other side, they win, it's going to be the end of the world, we can't. We can't. We're animals. You know, we're threatened. We want to self-protect. But I think there's a way, that's why I try to get underneath all of that so that then people are more relaxed so they can listen to other points of view. My vetted groups that are together, we can talk about everything. boy because we just want to understand better you know i think we're a part of it you know i've studied politics for you know a lot of years and i talk about a lot of daily basis here for the most part i've often thought that one of the challenges and why why politics are or is so polarizing here i think this is one of them for the longest time here marla by the way marla estes is with me

and she is with Building Bridgers. And this film that is going on tomorrow night, by the way, Medford Public Library, the large meeting room, it's called My Omaha, 6 o'clock. We'll tell you how you can register to go and see it. It's absolutely free, okay? But I think what has changed is that there was a time a few generations ago that government's rule in our lives was truly limited. In fact, I think the founder set up something which was kind of more of a hands-off sort of government in many ways. And most governing was done more at your local and or county level, you know, back in the days. In fact, there were times that you would never even really know who your congressman was.

And it didn't matter because they did so little. Okay, the national defense and we'll take care of some tariffs here and there and that. But it has changed over the years. It is such an overweening, massively bureaucratic structure that who, ever has control of the of the stick you know what i mean it's like it's like both political parties are dying are diving for the control every two to four years of this stick of this of piloting this massive airplane you know i'm getting at here and there is so much influence at every level in our lives that we can't help to get really triggered over what happens in politics could that be

something as simple as that because it's just doing so much right and that's one of the reasons I started with plastic bags because it's such a low threshold, right? It's kind of funny. But there's other measures like Measure 110 and these things that were, you know, it's partly about what you think about human nature, I think. Right. Do you think that people will always do what anyway? You think is the right thing?

I wish they would, but I don't, I'm not convinced of that, though, are you? No, I think we, no, I think we are at the. mercy of some of our instincts. And so when these things make us defensive and frightened, we kind of go to a more primitive level. Yeah. Yeah, the reptilian brain takes over, right? Exactly. There's ways, there's ways to calm oneself. Because I think we need to start working together to solve these problem. Well, how do you think that looks, let's say, just as an example, you brought up Measure 110. That is a classic example, I think, of the difference in view of our fellow men and women, you know, around us. Right. Because Measure 110 was kind of like, all right, we'll provide,

we'll provide treatment, and then everything will be okay, except that what really ended up happening is that the state of Oregon is not particularly good at delivering much of any service, you know, much less drug addiction services. I wish it were, but it's just not, right? And so we got to the point then where everything was legalized or a lot of stuff was legalized and we're handing out free needles in Hawthorne Park. And it's like, are we really helping our fellow men or are we just kind of continuing the misery?

And that's where we get these polarizing kind of conversations. It's like, I'm so sympathetic for these people that are drug addicted. I'd like them to get better. I think we all would, wouldn't you? Well, yes. So how do we marry these good intentions with really practical solutions instead of, you know, if people stay too practical, sometimes they lose the vision. If people stay too visionary, it doesn't usually work boots on the ground.

But, you know, and I hesitate to speak in terms of left and right, but they have to. have been those tendencies on left and right. Sure. Let's call it the visionary and the helpful and the... And the pragmatic dealing with the boots on the ground kind of thing. Yeah. Right. And how is human nature going to respond?

Like, are people going to take advantage of good systems or helpful systems, intentionally helpful systems? Right. Or are they going to self-regulate? But if you have things that are too tight, but this is the thing about the binary that tends to go to blue and red, you know, left and right, although I think those things are changing, actually. But how do we get the best thinking from both sides? I think that's a reasonable way of looking at it, too. My Omaha, and you're trying to reach

people with a film like My Omaha as an example to say, hey, it is possible, you know, what's really important, you know, in this family. And by the way, this is a documentary, right? This is not fiction. It's a documentary. And the filmmaker, we're going to also do. show a eight-minute clip about him talking about his process and what he learned. And it's really very beautiful. Yeah, so it's at the Medford Library tomorrow, Tuesday, July 7th, from 6th to about 830. And, yeah, we'll show the film, and then we'll have a discussion. We will not be talking about politics or religion. We're going to be talking about the relationship. So if you're

sitting there, if you're coming to come to this meeting, because you're going to talk about and, you know, praise the president or whatever it is or bash the president, this is not the meeting for you. No, that's not the meeting for you. Okay. All right. We do. Yeah.

And, you know, what's really beautiful is to see how they come together without even dealing with the issues, ultimately. Well, I hope you're right about this. My Omaha, tomorrow night, 6 o'clock, Medford Public Library, large meeting room. Great documentary from all. I've seen great reviews on this one. Now, a week from Wednesday, though, you're having another one, and this one is entitled, The Conservative. I had to have a little fun with that, okay?

I love you. You're so funny and gracious. Hey, if I can't laugh at ours, if I can't laugh at myself a little bit, who can I laugh at here? Exactly. Yeah, but I'm all serious. Now, what is this conservative one? This one's over at the metaphysical library. So some people in Medford, we go, oh, this is the Woo-W library.

What's going on there? What's the story? Well, you know, first of all, to give the, a plug, the metaphysical library, actually, they have me come once a month to do a bridging divide film or a video series. So that's pretty on the ground stuff. That's not too woo-woo. But this one is called the Conservatives. And it's, so I call it a stereotype buster. Oh, okay.

Because this has to do with environmentalism, and of course the standard stereotype is that the conservatives want to destroy the environment and hate people and animals. Right. They don't care, let's call it that. But this highlights the documentary again, three separate groups. One is a group run by this young man who is fantastic. His name is Benji Backer. and I think it's called the American Conservation Project. But they are a group of conservatives who really care about climate change.

Now, again, we are absolutely not going to talk about climate change as an issue because you get dueling facts, emotional reasoning, and tribal affiliation. So we're not doing that. There's also in the movie an evangelical pastor, very busy in the climate movement, and a farmer. So we get their three perspectives about how they think. And why I'm showing this is to show people that just because you think you know who someone voted for or who, you know, what side they're on, don't think you know how they feel about each thing. We're so individual. And with the two-party system, this is my opinion, we don't have a lot of choice.

So so often, many of us are voting for the lesser of two evils, but it doesn't necessarily reflect our own nuanced views on things, right? So I think this is a really good thing for people to say, oh, I would have pegged a conservative for not being involved in this movement. And yet here we are. Indeed. All right. Very interesting. So do you have a main website that everybody can join here? because I know you'd like to have people registered to see the movies because it's free either way, but what do you do? It's free either way. So if you go on to my website, it's building bridges. Bridgers, right?

Correct.com. And you'll go to the front page and it'll send you a link to sign up. Yes, it's because the Better Together Film Festival is trying to track registration for their statistics, you know, to show that they're having an impact, which they are. They're a fantastic group. Now, I have to ask you, though, do you know where their funding comes from? And the reason I bring this up is that I remember, you know, for a long time, Jeff Golden, Senator, before he was a senator, state senator, and of course now he's leaving the state Senate here, but he used to do those conversations.

I think some kind of conversation he would do, and he would do these lectures on the weekends here. And yet you found out that it was actually paid for by a state grant where there was money coming from the state grant. And, of course, they're usually trying to move the political needle. And, of course, when you have the state largely controlled by the political left, they're trying to, you know, kind of like calm those rabbit conservatives down, so to speak. All right? I was wondering if you could speak to that, you know? Yeah, I believe that Listen First Project and therefore the Better Together Film Festival is largely through private grants. Okay.

But, you know, I am going to look into that. Yeah, I was thinking, I think it was an Oregon Humanities grant that was being done with Jeff Golan as an example. And you kind of figured it out. And I understand this, you know, that the control grid in, like the control grid in Texas as an example, would be trying to always move the needle to the right, you know, so to speak. That sort of thing. This is just the reality when you have parties controlling, you know, states. Well, and I'll tell you, honestly, I've been in the bridging movement for 10 years.

Like you said, there's 500 bridging organizations. They are not all created equal. I've been very verbal about when I feel like there's not equal representation. And I have to just say to you and the audience that I'm politically homeless on some things I lean a little right on some things I lean a little left. Because once I got into all this, I found like I can't relate to either side ideologically. And so you end up sliding to where maybe someone is 70 or 80 percent your way is all you can do, right? It's all you can do at best.

So, but I mean, well, anyway, I'm not going to get into it. No, that's okay. But I'm an independent now, you know, so. I appreciate that. Independent. And darn well, I'm going to keep it. way, Marla, it's great talking with you. It always is, okay? I just appreciate that. Yeah. And like I said, if you're able to get a little more understanding going and a little less vitriol, I think it's a positive development. So tomorrow night is when that first film is going to be My Omaha at the Medford Public Library, large meeting room six o'clock when that's going on. The Conservatives, a week from Wednesday.

Road Valley Metaphysical Library in Ashland, 7 o'clock. I'll put the information up on KMED.com. Thank you so much, Bill. I so appreciate it. you. And I appreciate you going down the rabbit hole with me a little bit. Okay? Yeah, always. Bye. Bye, Marla. It's 736 at KMED and KBXG. This is the Bill Meyers Show. For over 20 years, Oregon Truck and Auto Authority has been Southern Oregon's car truck. 60 Biddle Road, sweet B in Metford, no wires now.com. News Talk 1063, KMED. You're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Catch up on the news here in just a moment and then continue the conversation. going to be talking with a former Irish dancer.

Like an Irish, you know, like the river dancer type of dancing that goes on. And apparently, you know, this is like going back to that, you know, division, the polarization. We now have the trans nation coming after the Irish dancing. And I guess they're having this Irish dancing championship. And you have a dude and a dress once again competing against the other women. And I don't know if he's winning or not. It's that same sort of thing. And they're asking for a little bit of help on that.

And I'll talk with one of these dancers, one of the former dancers there. Eddie, we'll have that coming up, just really, really strange stuff. And some great local history, not so strange here, just good stuff. Dr. Dennis Power is retired professor of business law at Southern Oregon University. All coming up on KMED and KBXG. When you first saw her. Deadline, you both agreed to. 250730.

Hi, I'm Megan McPherson with the McPherson Insurance Agency, and I'm on KMED. You know, just when you think the world can get weirder, it gets we're, and I didn't realize we had a trans problem in Irish dancing. Yeah, like the River Dance stuff, it is honest and goodness truth. Joining me right now to talk about this latest controversy, and, well, she used to be an Irish dancer herself, but it's Maggie McNeely once again, the director of government relations and a former Irish dancer, and she's with the Concern Women of America. Maggie, I have not heard of this. And, you know, in the wake of all of this Title IX stuff and the Supreme Court conversation, I thought we were all done with this.

But what's going on? Set the table, please. Well, good morning. Thank you so much to have me on to talk about the absolute insanity that is going on in the Irish dance world. Yes, so for a long time, the governing bodies of Irish. dance, the main of which is located in Dublin, of course, but there's also a North American governing body. And their policy has been that dancers can compete according to their gender identity. Now, in our stance, we do have boys categories and girls categories. And at the local

level, they do tend to combine the two. So you have a lot of mixed competitions. But at major competitions like regional and nationals and worlds, it is very strictly boys competing against boys, girls competing against girls. Okay. For three, okay. Yeah, sorry. Okay, but so now here we're like the World Series or the World Cup of Irish Dancing, right? And what's going on?

Yeah. Yeah, so this weekend in Orlando, Florida, it was the national competition and it goes through tomorrow. And there is a boy competing as a girl. For the past three years in a row, he has actually won the title of Girls Regional Champion. And so this week he's competing or is slated to compete at the national competition. And what we've been advocating for ever since the very first time he won that regional title is that the Irish dance governing bodies change their policy to say that you can only compete

according to what your sex was at birth and not just however you identify. Because even though Irish dance is an art form, it is a dance, it's extremely athletic. If you've ever seen river dance or any kind of Irish dance performance, you can tell it is a very athletic activity. And I would imagine then, if you're talking about the athleticism, a dude in a dress doing river dance, as an example, could have an advantage. Is that what you're talking about over the women? Yes, absolutely. If you can jump higher, if you have greater endurance, if you have greater speed to do the really complex rhythm patterns that we have an Irish dance, you are at an advantage. The judge is going to score you higher and reward you for being able to do more complicated

things than girls biologically could do. Okay. It does matter. Now, what I'm curious about is, you know, a lot of times we've seen some of this stuff, this nonsense going on for a number of years now, and you would see rather mediocre male athletes. Now, I'm not saying that this guy doing the, you know, the river dance or the Irish dancing is mediocre.

But, you know, I hear these stories about someone who was a mediocre male athlete in a category. the moment they end up declaring that all of a sudden I magically a female, identify as a female, and then they start cleaning up. Was this guy one of those kind of dancers or where he was just like midland to okay against the guys? But then all of a sudden he's just kicking the women's butts on this? You know, actually, he was actually fairly decent when he competed as a male. He went to the world championships in the boys category. Oh, okay.

So he was good even against the fellow man. All right. Yeah. Hmm. Now, why did they decide to go with his gender identity nonsense? I mean, it's just Ireland just lost? Or did they not have the stones of the Scots? I don't know.

Maybe the Scots are okay with that. Well, I do wear kilts, but of course, I'm mixing things up here, okay? I love the Scots, by the way. They're awesome. They are. But I think it's for a lot of reasons. One reason that it is dance, it is an art form, and all arts just tend to skew a little more liberal, more inclusive in quotation marks. So there is a lot of that.

A lot of people in the Irish dance world are more liberal and more willing to tolerate the gender identity stuff. I think that's a big part of it. That's kind of disappointing, though, because what does it mean then to win the women's championship when you yourself are a biological man? I don't get it. Right. And what they have been saying this past week ever since the story broke and, you know, the calls for them to change their policy really went viral is what they've been saying is, oh, well, it doesn't really matter who wins.

It just matters that the dancers learned lifelong lessons. Well, what exactly is that lesson if you have a girl competing in the girl's category and a boy beats her and suddenly she's not able to be the best girl in category? Well, I think the lesson is that rules don't matter. You just make it up as you go. Right. Well, okay. It's crazy.

So, Maggie, from what I understand, this is going on in Florida, right? State of Florida. Right. Now, the Florida Attorney General, is he weighing in on this at all because isn't there like a Florida law that's supposed to protect against this kind of stuff? Yes, so he sent them a letter last week, a couple of days before the competition started and said that, because this is an interesting plot twist. There's two of those regional championships where this boy won also took place in Florida. So they have already broken Florida state laws. And so he sent them a letter saying, you know, if this boy competes as a girl or if any trans dancers compete in a category other than their biological sex,

not only are they breaking the statute that says there can be no sex discrimination at a public accommodation, but they would also be breaking Florida's false advertising rule by saying that they have a girl's only competition, but they don't actually mean that. there's a boy in the girls' competition. How interesting. The same statute, they went after the Miss America organization for a few months ago. Is Miss America still doing that stuff? Really? I'm not sure.

They were earlier this year, which is why Florida went after them for false advertising. I'm not sure the update on if they've changed their policy or how they responded. So what did the Irish dancing group say to the Florida Attorney General saying, hey, listen, false advertising here. You got doing it and addressed doing the Irish dancing. Yeah, he gave them a deadline of June 30th, which was last Tuesday, and they did not respond. Instead, they decided to double down and say that they were not actually breaking Florida law. They told their teachers that the event would be going on as normal. They hired extra security, and they have also said that they have the ACLU on standby. Of course they do. Of course they do. Yes. Okay, yeah, because the American Civil Liberties Union is there to protect the fake-up jobs in the world of competitive dancing.

All right, so let me ask you, Maggie. Maggie McNeely once again, concerned women's of America, director of government relations, and a former Irish dancer herself. What are the actual dancers think about this? Are the dancers okay with it? Because then there's that part of me that says, all right, well, it's a free association. if they're okay with, you know, false nonsense being part of their competition structure. I mean, who am I? But, you know, what are the greater issues in play here, you think? Yeah, they're in a very difficult position because many of them are afraid to come out and say anything publicly

because they are still competing and they don't want judges to score them negatively or to be blackballed at all within the Irish dance community. I've had a lot of them reach out to me privately and say how grateful they are for for our advocacy and for the afford attorney general getting involved, but very few will say anything publicly, whereas the pro-trans people in the Irish dance community have been very loud, very vitriotic, making those of us on the side of common sense very afraid to say anything out loud. So it's kind of hard to gauge how much support there is for changing the policy because the ones who support the current policy are just so loud and so hateful.

Boy, it's almost like they want a J.K. Rowling, everybody that brings us up, right? Yeah. And the thing is that J.K. Rowling doesn't have to worry about it. She's, you know, got more money than God. And so she can do this, but not everybody else can. I've wondered if, are we at peak Tran, or is it still on that hill where the nation as a whole is still pretty much bowing and scraping at this nonsense agenda? I think we are seeing the decline of the trans movement. I think the Irish dance world is still in 2020 where we were doing this trans thing, and they haven't caught up to the rest of us yet. But I think this is a good reminder that if the other side were ever to come back into power, this will come back.

The trans issue is not gone away. And this Irish dance story is proof of that. So we have to be very diligent. Don't you find it ironic that it seems to be biological men who seem to be more behind stuff? this than biological women. Doesn't that bother you at all? It does. It does bother me, especially as a woman. I'm glad there are men standing up and fighting for it, but I really don't understand the women who are supportive of men taking away their rights, their opportunities, and the medals and awards that they've rightly worked hard for.

It's really a puzzle to me. Yeah, I'm thinking of when I was growing up, there was a cigarette ad back when they had cigarette ads. Evil, evil, I know. But, you know, for Jim, You've come a long way, baby. Yep, you've come so long. Now you're okay with not only men beating you, but men beating you badly while claiming to be women. Congratulations, right?

Yes, yes. So crazy. Oh, my gosh. Well, tell us more where you read. I'm sure you're writing about this over on your website on CWA. You got a lot to say on this, don't you? Yes, indeed, especially as an Irish dancer, I'm very passionate about seeing this problem fixed.

So you can find us at concernedwomen.org. You can also find us on X, formerly Twitter, CW4A, is our handle there. Don't you wish it would just go back to being Twitter? I do. I still, I can't call it X. It'll always be Twitter. Yeah, I can't either. And you'll find him on Twitter.

I mean, X, you know. Right. You don't know what to say. Exactly. Well, Maggie, I appreciate you bringing, like I didn't even realize this was a thing about, you know, trans-Irish dancers in the big. What are the names of those shoes of the shoes you wear on those kind of the... We called them hard shoes. Hard shoes.

Very simple, hard shoes. How many years did you do that? I did it for 20 years. Do you have any knees left? Fortunately, yes. We'll see what they say in a couple of decades. Okay. You'll probably catch up.

The reason I ask is that I know it is a very athletic dance. I have really admired the people who can do that and do it well. So good for you. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Maggie. Take care. My pleasure.

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And swapping in here like a helicopter from gosh. Here he is. How you doing? Scoo of Steve. Hi there, Bill. From 103.5 Cool FM. Hey, got to ask you, there are some changes over some big announcements coming from the Brit Festival. What happened?

The show we were sponsoring, which is David Lee Roth, is canceled. Apparently, the Brit offices. had some trouble reaching their management team. So, you know, communication is key when it comes to booking these things. Right. I mean, they would, they, Bridd is very good about dot in the eyes and crossing the T's on a lot of their acts. Now, wasn't that going to be next week, right? Yeah.

Okay. I think it was the 18th. The 18th, okay. I'll have to check to make sure the precise day. Because I've never had the opportunity to see David Lee Roth. I was thinking, all right, you know, probably the last and only. time I'll ever get a chance to see him, right? Well, it's interesting.

You mentioned that, Bill, because, you know, there's a lot of things flying around YouTube right now where they are pulling all the instrumentation out and just playing David Lee Roth's voice. And it's not great. Oh. And also, I've been getting stuff down the line that David Lee Roth has been canceling shows due to lack of ticket sales because those things go hand in hand, you see. Okay.

Yeah. People who are watching the videos are like, well, I'm not going to spend $40-50 to... Yeah, well, the thing was, though, David Lee Roth was never what I would say was a great singer, per se. Not a great singer, singer. Entertainer. It's a great entertainer. But apparently the sun has said on that, huh? I think his last show could possibly be his last show.

His last show. Whatever his last one was. Okay. All right. Gosh, I hate... You know, I hate to see that with someone who should have hung up a little bit earlier, keeps going. It is. It is sad.

You know, and I've been surprised before. I've gone to see groups or bands that I thought weren't going to be that great that were. You know, I've seen a lot of stuff circling the Internet about Def Leopard and how Joe Elliott could, you know, he couldn't sing anymore. And I saw them open for hearts and both were fantastic. Absolutely. Well, you know, sometimes, you know, you'll just find things like that. and sometimes it's better. Many years ago, I saw Gordon Lightfoot as an example.

And Gordon, I love Gordon Lightfoot, but he had a stroke a number of years ago before he ended up passing. And I remember watching him on the CBC. There was a documentary on Gordon Lightfoot at the time. And like I said, he's been gone a number of years. So it's okay for me to say this. But Gordon was saying, I sing better just as good now as I ever did. No, no, you don't. You know that kind of thing.

The interesting thing about Gordon Leifoot is you listen to a lot of his music like sundown and and, you know, all those big hits that he has. And they're kind of light and almost like an acoustic guitar in his voice. So you wouldn't think that, you think that, and they're not, he doesn't scream. He's not like David Lee Roth. No, no. But when you have that rich baritone, as an example. So David Lee Roth's rich baritone has left the building in other words. Exit stage left.

Okay. All right. Sorry to announce. So if you had bought tickets for this show, what do you do? You know? You just turn it back in or what? I do believe Britt is going to announce how to get your refunds. Okay. This is still early in the game.

It happened over the weekend. I got a phone call over the weekend. Of course, I reached out to you immediately. So that information will be coming down the line probably be all over Facebook and their website. All right. Very good. Hey, Scoop. All right.

Thanks for letting us know. Okay, so David Lee Roth, not here next week, okay? It is a four after eight. KMED, KMED, HT1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants, pass. Fox News coming up in Dr. Dennis Powers, where Pass meets present. We've heard it all. The kids, they dropped the cargo box on the hood. A three-car collision in the driveway? Yes.