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This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Wow, Sam and Steve here. Hello, Steve. How you doing? You wanted to talk about rage in the latest book coming out there. Go ahead.

Yes, well, it's Jonathan Turley, the attorney that you see on Fox News fairly regular. Interesting guy. He is a Democrat, but he's been. He's got a new book called Outrage in the Republic, and it kind of talks about the history of the country all the way from, you know, the very beginning until now. And rage is a reaction to any situation where you defer from any kind of logic. You take a position and you defend it. And it really goes back to, for the state of Oregon, especially to my mom. to the education system, and starting in kindergarten now, people are indoctrinated.

Well, utterly feminized, too, I would dare say, and it ends up being a completely emotional respected, the indoctrination. Right. When a child is in that early stage, I studied early child development in college, and they talked about how, like, language is formed. And if you begin speaking German when you're, you know, three, four, five, you always have a German accent because that has been impressed into your brain. The same thing happens when if you're a boy or a girl and you're then trained to, I don't know if trained is the right word, but you're given the opportunity to decide which sex you want to be. And, you know, boys look at girls and girls look at boys.

and I think, well, I really don't want to be what I am. I want to be that. If you give them the opportunity to do that, and you say it's okay when they're four, five, six years old, they're likely going to do something that doesn't make any sense, but they live with it the rest of their life. So it is a frustrating thing, and it is what is creating rage, is because people are trained not to be logical, not to look at situations and think about them. It is only to accept a position and then defend that. Like I will continue to pick the scab on my sister, who when I try to just call her and see how she's doing, I'm so disappointed in you because you have voted for a man who's trying to kill my children. It's just rage. That's all I get. Every time.

You can't discuss any points. You can't say, well, Trump is kind of hard to take, but look at what he's doing. Doesn't want to hear it. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Well, I just wanted to make that point that rage is being put. and youth are being trained to live in range.

Yeah, in an undisciplined time. Yes. Absolutely. Undisciplined in more ways than one. Thank you very much, wild salmon. Wild super salmon, Steve. All right. Tell you what, Dr. Powers,

we're going to be talking about some other things here, too, local history and plus, I don't know if there's any new lawfare news this week. I'll have to ask them. We'll have that next. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit Fontanaroofing Services.com. All right, no, class, settle down as we've been to... Now more with Bill Meyer.

By the way, before the end of this hour, not only a Diner 62 Real American Quiz, we're also going to give away that amazing rucksack that Army Navy Marine store is giving away. It's supposed to give it away last Thursday. We're going to give away Monday instead. It's like we're 60 bucks and that all coming up. Dr. Powers is here. retired professor of business law, rather, at Southern Oregon University with where past meets present. Doc, welcome back.

July 4th, you had a problem with a Kenny. Huh? That's a story. Now, that is a very interesting story because we are waiting for the jet flyover that goes right over our house. They're coming in, the F-15s from Portland through Ashland and then heading into Medford Central Point after they did. just go over our house and Judy said, wait a minute, looks like we have a large ragdoll that's bleeding and I looked at it. We couldn't quite tell it was going on. So we hopped in the car and we drove down I-5, which was, you know, fairly empty. And we went for the first time, Bill,

to the Southern Oregon Vet Specialty Center that's out there in Biddle Road. Didn't know anyone there at all. They did an excellent job, but what was interesting was the the fact that Judy noticed that they had some of the Rogue Valley vibe magazines there with the article on you and mentioned that to some of the people, and they said, oh, wait a minute, we listen to Bill all the time. And then what was funny is this one lady looks at me and says, and you must be Dennis Powers because I now remember your voice. Small world, isn't it, Doc? Well, what was so cool about it, though, was the fact that we didn't know them.

And here, you know, avid listeners, and this is on July 4th. So then we, the kitty is in fine shape, but we had another story. And that happens quite a bit to myself. Well, people will say, oh, yeah, I listen to Bill all the time. And then they'll say, and then they say, Bill, yeah, but your voice is. familiar. Oh, yeah, you're on Mondays. I love it, Doc. That's great. By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what was wrong with Kitty? Oh, it was an abscess, and it was covered by the fur, and so it had built up, and then when it came

out, it just exploded. We had no idea about it. Oh, goodness. That with blood all over and was streaming down the neck, and of course, the kitty was very upset. sense, so I couldn't find it was going on, so we put her in a cage and just decided to spend our fourth saying that we will watch the jet flyovers next year. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, that's what happens when you have a long-haired cat like a rag doll like that, is that if there's a skin issue, a lot of times you don't notice until it's, you know, really big, I guess.

That's right. You can't really tell them. This is both an indoor, outdoor cat, so there's, you know, lots of places that could have gotten into a fight. But it's enclosed. You know, so in any event, it was one of those things where we had a good experience and positive because of the way it worked out. Glad to hear that.

You know, my only cat story over the weekend was that I was wondering how traumatized Charlie was going to be. Now, Matt, the older cat, you know Matt. You've met him before. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the main coon. Yeah. He just gets irritated and then he goes into, you know, the closet and hides for a little.

little while. He doesn't go crazy, but he's just like, I don't like this, right? So he goes in there. But it was just like, you know, like the Civil War, you know, outside our house, which is where it was. There was a lot of it on Saturday night. It was just an amazing thing. And it's like everybody just, by about 1030 or 11 o'clock or so, it was likely starting to calm down, I guess, at that point. It was like one big huge cacophony is how it went in my house. But you know, Charlie, scared Charlie, who runs away from everyone. You have never met him because he just goes and hides. he was out. I remember you brought him out one time. Yeah, he was out there with us the entire evening, just rolling around or else sleeping next to us or something,

as it's just booming and banging. It's like, this is the cat that if you move your leg when you're sitting down, he'll dart and jump across and run across the room, like something happened, right? But yet, you know, during the fireworks on Saturday night, man, he just kept, it's like, all right, no big deal. I guess maybe he just likes chaos. That's all. Well, you know, I've been a dog person my entire life. I love dogs. I also love the rag dolls because they're very, very bright.

And the good thing is, is during winters, you know, I don't have to go ahead and try to, you know, walk one of my cocker spaniels, you know, to the outdoors. And I could just tell the kitties to go ahead, go to your cat box. There we go. Hey, Doc, why don't we talk about a little bit of history today? Today's historical profile. This is about, of course, very famous name here in Southern Oregon, Erickson Aircrane. Good look back on this one in today's profile. This is really an incredible story that really does stand out because Jack Erickson had two great passions in life,

one being aviation, the other one being timbering. And he grew up in an Oregon timber family, and he learned to fly when he was 18 years old. And in 1971, he was then in his 40s. He leased an S-64E Skycrane helicopter from Sikorsky. And the reason for it was that he figured out a way, because with his love of aviation, how to transport logs out of very high, inaccessible places on forests. Yeah, you weren't going to get a truck into these places. Exactly.

And what's really great, Bill, about that, was the fact that he pioneered the helicopter logging when timber was really big, you know, for the Southern Oregon economy. Sure. And this S-64E, it's like a huge preying manus, six-bladed main rotor, powerful, can list over 10 tons. And it's like a flying crane without a fuselage for internal loads. But in any event, he purchased one and then bought three more. But then he thought to himself, well, wait a minute, I can also use this for other things. And so he then diversified Bill to use these praying manuses, if you will, in construction,

you know, carrying large HVAC units, lifting, installing ski limits. And a big one was the CNN Tower, CNTower in Ontario, Canada, that had placed a seven-ton section at the top of an 1850-foot structure that for years, 30 years, was the tallest structure in the world. He did the U.S. Capitol Dome. So he's doing all these different things. Yeah, it amazes me when you see them put towers together like that. And, you know, you're having to hover in a relatively still fashion

in order to get those parts married together. It's really something to watch an aerial ballet when they do this. It is. And what's amazing, though, is that he continued on. And then in 1992, his company that was then renamed to Erickson Aircrane acquired the rights from Sikorsky to be the manufacturer, repairer, and parts supplier. Oh, so they were actually building all of them there for Sikorsky? Yeah. And yeah, and 500.

We have like 500 employees now in their Central Point Center. And what happened, though, was that in 2007, Jackton sold the company to a company that was called ZM Equity Partners. And for $100 million, people really didn't know that. I was able to hunt around to try to find that. Usually when I hear equity partners getting ready to buy a company, I'm going like, uh-oh, okay. Am I right or wrong about it? that. No, that's exactly what happened because the new people went ahead and levered to purchase a very large company in McMinnville, Oregon that was going ahead and operated a fleet of Boeing

747s, borrowed heavily to finance this purchase. It was forced to file Chapter 11 bankruptcy, came out in 2019, the company underneath private ownership, which had operations throughout the world at this time, a near 60 feet fleet that involved fixed wing, medium lifting, and heavy lifting, being the S-64s. And my suspicion is that Jack was also involved in that. But what happened, though, was that he had the time then to really go into a second and advocation, love of his, which was aircraft, a love of aviation. And you can see it, which I did. I was just fortunate about that out in Madras, where he has 28 different World War II prime-conditioned aircraft from P-51 Mustangs to even German Messerschmitt M.E.109s.

and he then was brought into the aviation head Hall of Fame, if you will, which was really something. And there's a picture with him with John Travolta in terms of doing that. Now, he's still alive. He is. Okay. Yeah, 91. And what he has done with his life really stands out because he, He created exact industries.

Well, yeah, he created the industry. He was the first one to really do it. That was this. And when we had the Democrats that came out with the spotted owl fiction and was collapsing, the timbering, you know, based on that myth, he then was going ahead and centered the timbering operation to Thailand. and out to Indonesia using his SE 6es, 64s, and he was going ahead with the flow. So the way that he was able to see trends really stood out to me, an amazing person.

I mean, really amazing. It really stands out there with the best of Southern Oregon. Well, good to know. And thanks for the story. Speaking of which there was the veneer plant in Roseburg that ended up closing over the weekend. Did you hear about that one? You know, speaking about, you know, the challenges for wood delivery and all the rest of it, which have been maintained in the wood products industry, you know, up until now even.

It's still, we're still dealing with the fallout and the lies of the spotted owl era. Yeah, I'm not surprised, especially with our two far-left senators that are, in league with Schumer in terms of looking woke instead of looking at what will help Oregon in a business-wise. Well, why don't you hold on and hold that thought, and we'll talk about that next. How about that? Sounds like it. Yeah, and we'll take it from where past meets present and present, well, includes Chuckie Schumer, unfortunately.

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Go ahead. Let's hear it. Well, I was kind of disturbed about the laughing about killing endangered species, the spotted owl. It was a lie, David. What's that? It was for a lie, David, the whole Spotted Al thing was a canard up here.

It was alive right from the start. Bill, you're a liar. It was a lie. No, no, that was the whole thing about that. Spotted Al was just fine. It was the Bard Al. It's been killing it all these years. And now they're going out and killing the Bardell, David.

Where's the Amazon at this point? I'm not talking about the Amazon. I'm talking about Northwest forests. Yeah, and there's 90% of the Redwoods that used to be here in California. I'm not talking about the Redwoods. I'm talking about Spotted Al killing the entire timber industry here in the northwest in our area here, David. Are we at 2%, Bill? 2% of what, David?

What Redwoods used to be? I don't care about the Redwoods. I'm not talking about the Redwoods. We weren't talking about Spotted Al's in the Redwoods. David, David, there's nothing to talk about here. They are now spending millions to kill bar, well, to kill Bardels because the Barnels have been killing the spotted owls and it was that way all around. Oh, it makes my teeth hurt. Sorry, Dennis.

Oh, no problems because I saw what happened there from the very early 90s on at SOU where we had families, logger families working in a veneer plant like you were just mentioning that closed. up in Roseburg. The whole thing, though, is that I saw families really hurt by the spotted owl fallacy. Yeah, and it's like anybody who is still spouting spotted owl nonsense, I can't take it anymore. I could not take it any longer. Well, even some of the Democrats off the record will say, you know, that was a mistake. and I mentioned that I would keep that confidential, but even some of the Democrats said that was a horrible mistake because of what happened to all the families here in Southern Oregon.

It was a terrible mistake, and it had to do with the timber industry and not the Redwoods in California, which is a different story in California. And so now we're going to spend millions to do prescribed burns rather than doing any kind of harvest because that's bad. Prescribe burns, you know, burning and billing the taxpayer is the way we do it now. And don't tell me that we weren't smarter about it in earlier times. Well, we also saw, Bill, you know, when our Salem people decided to put the burden on landowners as to fire problems and the threat of fire where insurance, and I can tell stories of people that I know where they, where they had their fire insurance now is four times as much as it used to be, even though our governor was forced to backtrack on it because it was a horrible, horrible way of trying to do it. All right.

Let me go to Brad. Brad, you're on with Dennis Powers. Go ahead. Bill and Dr. Powers, Brett here, good morning. I love these stories because it reinforces something that you guys know, but a lot of people don't, that Oregon is one of the lead innovators of aircraft manufacturing and adaptation in the entire United States. What Erickson did is he took, so you got a Russian company, you know, So Cicorsky, Russian guy invented the thing. By the way, helicopter is a German name, right?

Hello wings, cop heads, a wing's on top of the head. So German name, Russian company, but it took an American. It took this really, really smart guy to figure out how to adapt this design to do so much. many things, including fighting fire. He was the guy that took this, this incredible, incredibly versatile aircraft and figured out how to fight fire. They actually export the use of these aircraft all over the planet. They've actually had Erickson aircraft helicopters fighting fires down in Australia, believe it or not. All right. Very good. And that's an excellent, excellent point, Brad, because on that, Jack Erickson by himself with his people came up with over 1,300 design changes to improve, including the composite rotors,

and actually came up with the hover snorkel for the computer-controlled tank doors and created that market. Really, I'm happy to go into that for firefighting, and that is the way that he went into all. these things was amazing. And the firefighting is something we still see here from the way that he came up the designs. It's an amazing story by a very bright entrepreneur. All right. Dennis, why don't we take it over to the current right now because you wanted to talk about Senator Schumer and what is what is going on? What's the latest there? Go ahead. Well, Bill, I was wondering about these ads that were all over TV at times that had to do with the meat industry. And then I finally was able to find out that what it was was that had to do with, oh, Chucky, has come up with what

he has called the Family, Grocery and Farmer Relief Act, otherwise known how to make us all vegans and to go ahead and bow to AOC, because when you go through and read it, and I have a copy of the bill here, it says that it's going to restore competition in the meat packing industry by reducing excess concentration and market power. And how is it going to do that? It's going to go ahead and put on market caps on the meat industry and say that firms can only go into one, whether like beef, chicken, pork, and what, instead of consolidating. And it goes in to define it to actually blow out, you know, this meatpacking market for socialism, because you also have a nice little administrative agency that comes in that's going to go ahead and do it to watch over all this.

And the whole idea is the fact that, and they're also saying, and they're trying to advertise, that it will, lower prices for consumers. So this is an AOC Sanders' communist dream. Okay, so this is a government grocery store kind of plan? It would lead that way, but in the bill itself, it is really attacking the economics of the meatpacking market to take all these, such as, think about ranchers. It's just what Biden and Obama was doing with oil. You've got to go after

where the money is coming from in certain places to the Republican independent parties. And in this particular case, I direct people really go to the, it's S407. And this is what they're advertising against on because it's the Schumer's family, how do you like these words, my friend? family grocery and Farmers Relief Act, quite to the contrary. It's like your typical socialist who's there going ahead and saying, oh, this is American. No, it's anti-American. Yeah, is it just that our, you know, even our, well, nobody seems to want to leave that alone. Nobody seems to want to leave the economy alone.

And would you even, of course, I don't know. Can we make fun of Chuck Schumer to try to, you know, trying to control grocery prices? when, you know, even, you know, the Republicans are out there, you know, pushing for drug price controls. Where do you go on that, Doc? Yeah, in terms of that, I wish the Republicans would fight harder. I wish the Republicans wouldn't go ahead. And the greatest threat that we have to our democracy is the fact that I see Republicans hiding underneath Trump and trying to get reelected rather than standing up for their principles.

and that's the big danger that I see. They need to get out the vote instead of the words that they give where they say, oh, this is wrong. Well, yeah, with what Schumer's doing, it's not only wrong. You know, when you read it, you say it's socialism to a great extent to control, you know, the economy. Yeah. By the way, I wanted to take it back to David's call a little earlier because I was really irritated by the spouting of the nonsense about Spotted Al, right?

And I said the spot it. Well, it was also a personal attack. and that should have been done. Well, but still, the spot-in-out situation was a lie. And what brought it forth, what brought it forward here is what the U.S. Forest Service is now doing. U.S. Forest Service says since 2013 has been experimenting with the lethal removal program of the Bardell. I went and I looked this up while you and I were talking. Oh, you're right.

So they'd have sharpshooters going into the area at night to shoot the barredals because the The barred owls were more aggressive and they were killing the spotted owls, right? They would shoot them with shotguns. And then in August, two years ago, the Forest Service ended up instituting a formal plan to kill about 450,000 barred owls over the next 30 years over California, Oregon, and Washington. That's not a lie. It's not a typo. This is official policy. This is what's been going on.

And the claim is that if we don't kill barred owls, spotted owls go extinct. and they claim that barred owls are invasive. And the fact of the matter is, though, it's just a more aggressive owl species. I think it's rather debatable that they're invasive, but that's the logic which is being used right now. That's what's going on. That's what drove this. And Bill, you're absolutely right, because when you go into the overall figures, it's 450,000 of these barred owls because they are the ones that, actually go after the spotted owl. But this, when you go into it, you have trained professionals

who are being paid to use megaphones to broadcast recorded owl calls luring the bard. Yeah, to call them out so they can shoot them. With close range shotguns and carcasses are going to be buried on site. Yeah. If you were an environmentalist, which is, you know, an environmentalist is one who is reasonable. You would say, wait a minute, this is ridiculous to go after the barred owl. And, you know, as a matter of fact, my father was a very confirmed environmentalist, and I know that he would be saying to kill almost a half million barred owl. Yeah, to protect the other one. It's just nonsense.

To protect the other one. It's questionable. The other part of this, though, that, has to be brought up is that it was figured out shortly that essentially what we looked at here is that the spotted owl was weaponized just to end logging. That was the political agenda that was needed out here. Now, don't tell me that Southern Oregon and Southern Oregon's population has been healthier and happier and more prosperous ever since there, Doc. It's been a problem ever since. You know, there's never any, never any cost benefit analysis. And the other part about this is that the spotted owl, the challenge with the spotted owl is that it was sort of a

hyper specialist, you know what I mean, as far as its environment that it wanted. And, you know, what it tended to specialize in was contiguous old growth. And it's like, that's gone, all right? And I saw that in teaching, because I would be talking to older students where, let's say, the wife would be trying to learn accounting while they, well, they, well, they, auger husband was staying at home. This was a real situation. The other thing I did not know was the fact that when territories overlap, the two species can interbreed to create hybrids, which don't have the voracious problem of the northern spotted owl. And so for people to go ahead into this controversy, a little more information would be very helpful.

All right, very good. Doc, I appreciate that. Thanks for the take, as always. We'll grab another call or two before we take off. Hi, KMED. Who's this? Morning. This is Greg.

Hi, Greg. So I'm going to try to be as concise as possible, but I got a lot more I could say about each of these points. First of all, as far as any kind of an owl, what we should be looking at is what are they eating? I'm going to tell you right now, I have seen this. There's something called the black colored. The bubonic plague. It exists in southern Oregon. It's been documented at Immigrant Lake.

I read it in the newspaper a couple of times growing up around here. So that's point number one. Point number two. The spotted owl, the whole dang thing, I knew a guy in the BLM high up in the BLM. I worked in the wood products industry at the time. We were just bullshitting, drinking beer, and he said this, don't tell nobody, Greg, but we had a high-level meeting, and we got to figure out what to do. We went and applied a whole bunch of different management techniques 30 years ago,

and then we didn't follow up and figure out whether they worked or not, and guess what? Most of them didn't work. So if you have four different management techniques that you applied to a piece of ground and none of them worked, then they increased the allowable cut based on pencil pushing, and it never panned out. If they had stuck to the plan that they had all the way from the 40s, they would have been fine. All right, Greg, I appreciate the call. Thank you for making it. Yeah.

Well. Okay. Just wrap it up, though. I'm just running out of time, okay? The whole much more stuff I could say, but just let me just say this one thing about all this spotted owl stuff. When they was trying to pin the spotted owl, the problem on the spotted owl, that was what they came up with to cover their butt. I've seen this all across the board. I've seen it in nonprofits and I've seen it in the government.

People don't want to accept responsibility, so they make up some bullshit to cover their ass. Okay, all right. Yeah, don't say that. but I think point well taken. Well, am I glad we have a dump button there, Doc? You get the cause, my friend. Yeah, bovine excrement. It still makes people hot even.

Yeah, I've just tired of that, you know, the revisionist here. And all right, I don't know. I'm just so disappointed in, you know, the lies promulgated is truth for a long time. So, Doc, on that note, I always appreciate your take on it. And thank you so much. And we'll catch you next Monday, all right? Okay, you bet you take care And my best as always

All right, yeah Anyway, thank you Where past meets present, Dr. Dennis Powers Still gets me hot And I think about them going out and killing Almost a half million bard owls Yeah, that'll fix it Oh yeah

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And by the way, I want to keep it at one winner per family. You know, sometimes I get these situations where numerous family members from the same household will then play it. Let's keep it all with one per household every 60 days. Okay. 77056633-770KMED. We'll start with caller 6 next. When you turn 65, you'll need to make a very important decision choosing the right Medicare coverage. Acom slash Kim.

Diner 62 Real American Quiz. Here we go. Man, I've got to tell you, they have meatloaf and not just meatloaf. Great meatloaf. They had open-faced meatloaf sandwiches that they gave us on Friday, both Bryce and I. We love them. Comes with mashed potatoes, brown gravy and corn. That's on Wednesdays they do that.

And try the crispy chicken sandwich. If you've never tried that, it is absolutely delicious. Let me go to Deborah. Hey, Deborah, you're first up. Welcome. Hello, Deborah. Hello. Oh, there we go. Gotcha. Deborah, it was today in history, July 6th of 1775. One day after restating their fidelity to King George III and wishing him a long and prosperous reign in the Olive Branch petition, Congress sets forth the causes and necessity of their taking up arms. So the day after they wish, hey, happy birthday, King, you know, and now we're going to talk about going to war, all right? The Declaration also proclaim their preference to die free men rather than live as slaves.

Now, the Continental Congress passed these opposing documents back to back because they were deploying a carrot and stick strategy to balance a deeply divided Congress. They're trying to keep all their options open, all right, Deborah. By July of 1775, though, blood had already been shed at Lexington, Concord, and Bunker Hill. Now, as in the Olive Branch petition, Congress never impugned the motives of the British King and said they protested the large strides of late taken by the legislature of Great Britain toward establishing over these colonies. Their absolute rule. They were trying to finesse it, right?

So the question for you this morning is, I have no idea who did this, all right? But who primarily wrote the Olive Branch petition? Which one of these founders? Was it A, John Rutledge, B, Thomas Jefferson, C, John Dickinson, D, Benjamin Franklin, or was it E. John Hancock? It's one of those four. What do you say? Hmm?

Can you repeat the answers? Sure. John Rutledge, Thomas Jefferson, John Dickinson, Benjamin Franklin, or John Hancock, who wrote the Olive petition, trying to have it both ways with the king?

I'm going to say John Dickerson? John Dickinson. You think it's the first one again? Really? Yeah. Boy, this has happened a lot the last week or so. The first one in winning it. Congratulations.

Primarily written by Pennsylvania delegate John Dickinson, while Thomas Jefferson drafted the early more aggressive version. The Continental Congress then adopted Dickinson's rewritten, rewritten, rather, more conciliatory draft. Now, a little bonus note, Thomas Jefferson and John Dickinson, and co-authored the Declaration on the Causes and Necessity of Taking Up Arms. So, like I said, you know, it's kind of a care. You had to be kind of careful because, you know, the king could still come after you,

off with your head. They were trying to find a way to avoid actually going to war. But there we go. So congratulations, Deborah, off the Diner 62 with you. Hang on, okay? Be right with you. Okay. All right, 852.

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and each year constructs the majority of the new wells in Josephine and Jackson counties. Klausier drilling has the expertise to help you make an informed decision on options for improving your water situation. Give the experts a call. Visit clauser drilling.com. Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. 854 and change. Mine are Dave, some good news. Good news from you this morning. I can't wait to hear it. Go ahead. Yeah. Last week, I got my Social Security SSA and they didn't take that. as much money, so I called him and found out that that was the last payment that will be put into the record by the end of the month. So I'm now paid off. Oh, so your, this was a judgment

launched against you by the federal government for your restitution after living on your mining claim, right? That conviction. Yeah, and them taking my property. And then a friend of mine found where they didn't haul it off to the dump, they burn it somewhere on the National Oh, that's nice. That's very nice. Well, you know, it's a caring bureaucracy in the United States federal government. Well, Dave, you know, I'll tell you, I'm going to give you a real American salute. You have paid your debt to society now. The thing is, I still sent you a letter to get you pardoned. Has anything happened with that? When you sent that to me, I forwarded it on. I got another guy working on it, and I don't know what the other party that, uh, uh, uh, uh, the other party that, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know, if he's going to do it, he asked from a, he gave me his email, and that would be former Senator Alan DeBoer.

Good guy. I think he's working on a letter too. All right, good. Keep that out because I want you just completely pardoned and off the hook there, okay? Thanks for the call, Dave. Appreciate the good news. Scott, it's here. Hey, Scott.

What's up? Hey, good morning, Billy. Morning. We were up in the mountains yesterday, and a big hats off to the cliff. opening up the roads a bit, up there above Lost Creek, a beautiful day. I'm a strong Republican, by the way, but I do love Dennis Powers and his voice and his books. And I think that that is important. We need a strong Republican.

Not somebody that was a Democrat that decided to be a Republican. Yeah, there's been a lot of that going on for sure. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, as far as the spotted owls, a pair of, and Falcon we've seen yesterday. Also, a very small fawn was running along the road. And if you go on my Facebook, you'll see it. And I brought it and I released it. So if anybody ask, you know, OSP, of course, it was released on the Walter Ranch. All right. And we have dears. We have dears here. All right. We'll do. Hey. You need more management. And Colleen

Roberts and I have been talking about this here recently. So. All right, very good. I appreciate the update then. Thank you, Steve. Okay. Be well. All right. Now then, I promised you. This is what I was supposed to have done last Thursday because we were just so eager to get to the holiday. We couldn't

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