Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 07-07-26_TUESDAY_6AM

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

07-07-26_TUESDAY_6AM

This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. It is so good to have you here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. If there's a pebble in your shoe, let me know 7705-633. 770 KMED. I know that tomorrow it's not pebble in your shoe Tuesday,

but Sue Riches wants to come into the show. And she's part of a bunch of Medford Heights residents that are getting a little concerned about some development that is going on with the COGAP company and putting up a whole bunch of four. I guess they're talking about a couple of four-story tower apartment complexes over there on the hills, on the hills to the east of Main Street. He's just started getting up the hill in that area.

and guess some of it used to be like Jerry, the late Jerry Lawsman's property. I'm glad to go up and take a look at it today. She'll be coming in tomorrow. And we'll see what's going on. They're trying to appeal it through Metford Planning. So that's but a big boulder, I guess, in the residence issues there for quite some time

to try to get some work done on it. We'll talk about that issue for tomorrow, though, all right? Hey, coming up, I have James Taylor, who is the president of the Heartland Institute. Now, James Taylor, no, not that James Taylor, not the, you got a friend, James Taylor, but a different James Taylor. And we're going to talk about the situation, the reporting of climate change, the reporting of news and heat in general. And, you know, it has certainly been a warmer year than normal here.

And that's pretty much, you know, it's obvious. But I guess the question is that I hear time and time again, it is the hottest year ever, When then a year ago or two years ago when there was a little bit of a heat wave, it's the hottest year ever. And it's interesting how weather is sold and how climate change is sold as the actual scientific evidence is starting to collapse because I don't know, maybe it was all because of, you know, just trying to get slush funds and control grids. I mean, one example that in Portland they're arguing about, and this is in the Oregonian, I was reading it this morning, controversial Portland proposal to redirect climate cash to police moves closer to the November ballot. So they're going to push this.

A couple of proposed Portland ballot measures have moved closer to qualifying. And what this would do, it would redirect money from the city's clean energy fund to support police. And it turned in more than 62,000 signatures. So that's what they're looking to do. You know, this clean energy fund, you know, the nonsense is, you got people going to the bathroom on the streets and they're worried about a clean energy fund. And really what these clean energy funds are so often have been, um, rackets and grifts in my

opinion is the way a lot of it has been done. And as much as I admire, well, as much as I admire Elon Musk, for example, essentially he ended up really getting or coming to prominence through grifting through the federal government's programs because the federal government, he, and all he did, was take advantage of the, of the rules, the laws that the federal government. government came up with. And we're going to put our thumb on the scale. It doesn't matter if you don't want electric vehicles. That's okay. You're going to pay Elon Musk for so-called carbon credits, which is a fake market only created by the government because there is no credit out there for

carbon in a sane world. You know, we're a carbon-based life form. But, you know, boy, what a technocratic plan when you think about it. You know, the scientific dictatorship, carbon credits, energy credits, you know, all that kind of thing. But it's all part of the same. control grid. But that's how he ended up getting rich. That's why you have SpaceX now. Because essentially everybody who wanted to buy a conventional car that actually served

their needs was forced to pay Elon Musk for the credits. So that way he could sell a subsidized Tesla to people who wanted those. You know, it's once again that kind of control of everything through the government grift.

And that's been all part of it. Now in Portland, they're talking about taking the government gravy grift from the clean energy fund and giving it the cops. It may be actually a little more useful there than maybe going for more clean energy. But anyway, I'm going to talk with James Taylor about this. Even Fox News. I know Fox News, and they will advertise every now and then the Fox News podcast. And then they go through, the rain is coming.

The rain is this and that. Temperatures 30 degrees above normal. and they repeat that promo again and again and again. I can't help but think that there's a little bit of conditioning going on there sometimes. So that's a big pebble in a lot of people's shoes. James Taylor, not the Uganda friend James Taylor, but the other James Taylor. We'll talk with him in just a little bit about what's the truth and the scientific peer-reviewed science behind a lot of this stuff.

Okay? All right. Wild Day yesterday, when it came to fire. But they got him all out right. away. When I say wild, it wasn't like crazy, crazy, like weird stuff, but they had the Oshawa farm, a bunch of buildings caught on fire near Williams. They had 238 closed for a while. And like I'm going to be reporting in the 630 news, practically every, every agency around here was, it was all hands on deck. They were out there. They got it out. They did helicopter drops and everything else. That's fine. And there was a less than a quarter acre fire west of Mount McLaughlin.

But overall, the good news is that Oregon Department of Forestry said on all the lands that they have been, that they control, that they protect. It was actually a very quiet fire weekend. Very quiet fire weekend in Southern Oregon. Only four fires on those lands. Now, I know there were more fire calls than that, but it was relatively quiet. And that was a real blessing for Southern Oregon. That's what I say. So anyway, what's on your mind?

It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday, 7705-633. Good morning. Hi, who's this? You got a pebble or not? Well, yeah, I do. What's that? Well, all this climate stuff, they keep wanting to crowd everybody together, and they don't want anybody to have a lawn because, I don't know. It waste water, but lawns provide cooling and really help put out oxygen. In fact, a lawn, I don't know, they said 100 square feet of lawn is equal to a tree as far.

as how much oxygen it puts out. And I know you're not a long person, but... Well, it's not that I'm not a long person. I like looking at them. I just hate mine, because it's mostly... Because it's mostly Bermuda, and it just grows into everything. It is the most invasive grass I've ever dealt with. Okay, well, you can kind of help that in the spring.

If you put a fertilizer on that has something called DET in it... It keeps the Bermuda grass from growing. Oh, really? Yes. Okay, well, unfortunately, it's summer. Yes. Thanks for telling me now, huh? Well, and the Bermuda grass has nuts down in the ground,

and so it kind of promotes itself. It's an amazing grass, though. I have to give it credit. That stuff will grow where nothing else will. It's amazing, Steve. It really is. A 70-year-old lawn. I had a 70-year-old house, and my lawn has been here for 30 years, well, 28-plus years that I've lived here.

And putting in an underground sprinkler system and a timer and all that stuff has really helped it. And it's a pain in that I have to mow it, but I still really enjoy it. And it is anti-global warming because it puts out oxygen and cools the plant. But you see, that's a very interesting point. I think that a lot of what is being called it, it's the hottest ever, and it's never been hotter. Southern Oregon has never been hotter. Well, a lot of that, I think, is due to the urban heat island effect, which when you take pear orchards and farm fields and you replace them with concrete asphalt and strip malls, that's what you're going to get. Yes.

Well, that's my pebble for today, is that, you know, our friend Stanley doesn't, really like lawns very much. I know. Stan Bopolsky doesn't like lawns, but you know, he's allowed to not like lawns too. I like them. I don't like them for different reasons. Thanks for the call, Steve. Seven, seven, okay, MED. Uh, pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hello. Good morning, Bill. It's a deplorable Patrick here. Am I on deck? You are on deck, sir. Swing for the stands. Okay. Go ahead. Well, I want to take this opportunity to take a shot at liberals. Now, I can't say for sure this guy was a liberal yesterday who called in on your show,

but he sure acted like a liberal because he called in to disagree with you about the spotted owl. And I guess his... Oh, that was David, David from the Bay Area. No, he called me a liar about that, which got me a little hot under the collar because I was able to bring up the, you know, this is the actual, the federal... news about how they're going out there and shooting barred owls under the guise of protecting the spotted owls. So, you know, they're really putting a thumb on the scale, essentially. It was never, the forest, shutting down the forestry industry was never really about the spotted owl.

It was just being used as the stalking horse for the environmental left is what happened here. That's what we experienced, in my opinion. And we let them get away with it. My pebble in my shoe is when some people are so stupid, he calls up to disagree with you and I guess to win you over to his point of view he calls you a liar. That's a problem. Yeah. Is that how you win people over by insulting them? A liberal, I guess it is.

Well, I don't know. The thing is, I put up with David, you know, we don't have a lot of liberals that call. I don't mind when they call because there are times that I've agreed with stuff that he's talked about. And I'm good and I'm good with that. But if, you know, and he was bringing up the spotted owl as in regards to the redwood trees. Well, we only have 2% of the redwood trees left. And it's like, yeah, that has little to do with the spot in Al decision. It's like the completely different forests.

These are our inland forests here. And when it comes right down to it, the climate that we are in these days is not really as conducive to growing redwoods. It's just not the same kind of climate as it was a couple of thousand years ago. Just like it wasn't the same climate 2,000 years before that, I guess, when you look at it. I'm glad to learn about that from you, and it's too bad about the Redwoods. I'd like to have more of them. But I did want to make a point about how liberal operates, their minds operate. They're going to win you over so they insult you.

Yeah, well, they beat you into the ground, I guess. Thanks for the call, Deep. Always good hearing from you. Next on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. I don't know who this is, but we're live without an end. Good morning. Who's this? Hello.

Hello. Hi. Good morning. Hey, Bill. Hi. This is Mike Wilson from a former Oregonian who moved to Texas. Mike Olson, in the land of the free. How are you doing?

Mike, great hearing from you. What's going on? Well, prospering and loving Texas. It's, uh, weather is kind of, uh, you know, pretty brutal at times, but, uh, for about half the year like there, it's, it's pretty nice. Well, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that. So what part of Texas did you move to? Uh, it's a little town called Pearl. Pearl. Pearl. And it's 78 miles from the dead center of Texas, which is Brady, Texas. And it's in the hill country. Uh, beautiful, beautiful, uh, rolling hills and, uh, kind of air.

So water's a big issue, but... Yeah, water's a big issue back in Oregon right now, too, Mike, just so you know. Well, remember Rick Holt and the Savage Rapids Dam? Yes, I do. Yeah, it doesn't sound like you're still fighting the same battles from what I hear with the Spotted L controversy and that kind of stuff. Well, we're not fighting it any longer. It's just been a day-taunt, and the timber industry has more or less been not completely, completely destroyed, but largely, you know, on its back right now, we had a veneer factory in Roseburg close going into the July 4th Independence Day weekend.

And most of that was due to the fact that getting a proper timber supply was difficult. We've decided out on the west here, Mike. I don't know what they're doing in Texas. But in the west, we have decided that you can't harvest anything for the most part because the environmental left will sue over that. So we have the taxpayers pay to have Collaboratives go out and do controlled burns in various areas, but there's not enough taxpayer money that could possibly treat all the forests that we still have out here.

That's what we're dealing with right now. Yeah, you know, I owned 40 acres of half of it was timber and the other half was oak and madrone. And that was right in the middle of, you know, them shutting down all the mills and stuff over and, oh, what's the way thing halfway to the coast there? Rough and ready? Rough and ready? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. And I was there, it was my 50th birthday in 2002, and we were sitting out. All my family was come out from Minnesota and other places, Texas. And that was when the day of the Biscuit Fire started. Oh, yeah. Man, that was something. Started up by Bunkum. But anyway, Y'all Street, have you heard about that in Texas?

Oh, when you said Y'all Street, like Wall Street, but Y'all Street, right? Right. They just opened, and they're going to surpass New York, thanks to Mandomi. It's going to really be Texas is the beneficiary of all of the West Coast stuff moving and a lot of the New York stuff. That's really interesting you brought that up because I remember my friend Matt in Grant's Pass, who was a former stockbroker, was talking about a stock exchange opening in Texas here. And so it's now open now? When did that happen? Just before the fourth.

I think it was Friday or something like that. Don't quote me on that. I was just, you know, I kind of hear that in the background. It'll be interesting, though, to watch where the capital moves. Because from what I understand right now, just because of what's been going on in New York City and in New York State and the growing tide of communism, even right now, there is more financial activity down in the state of Florida than there is in New York. Many of them have already moved a lot of those brokerages down to Florida. Money will go where it is treated better.

And I guess you're treated okay in Texas then? That's what you're telling me, Mike? Yeah, it's going to surpass Florida even because most of the big firms from New York have already established offices and they're building towers down there. Yeah. But we've got SpaceX going on. We've got so many things going on. Tesla, of course.

But, you know, and we're getting rid of some of the deadwood, which you guys need to do, namely two senators. We just got rid of a gray-haired old gentleman that served, you know, well for, I think, 40 years or something like that between the Congress and the Senate. Was that one of the Trump primaries in the Senate? Yes, yes. John Cornyn. Yeah.

The challenge with this is that President Trump needs a. actually to get a lot of senators on his side to move a lot of legislation. And now they're a little hot under the color, as you can imagine, when he starts pushing primaries of them. I remember you lived in, was it Bismarck or Fargo? Or, you know, you were a host up there? Yeah, for about a year and a half, two years I was in Fargo at KFGO. Yeah.

Yeah, and, you know, they're just booming up there too. but do you have any pull with South Dakota and John Soon? We need to get him off of this, Doc. No. I'm afraid I don't. Never lived in South Dakota, but the point we'll take it. If I did, I'll try to pull. If I did, I would use the string to pull, okay?

How about that, Mike? Well, hey, on a whim, listened to you yesterday. It was interesting. So I thought I'd call in, and I'm going to dip in once in a while and maybe give you a Texas update. You do that. So it's going to be Mike Olson with the Texas update from the land of the free, from behind the border. Okay? Thanks for the call, Mike. Good hearing from you.

I still got a lot of friends back there, so, you know, say hi to all them for me. And fortunately, the south, you know, south end of Oregon is still pretty conservative compared to the communist Portland. Anyway. Yep, but even there may be getting a little tired of it, I hope. Thanks, Mike, good hearing from you, 629 at KMED on Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Hi, I'm Rob. And I'm Deborah. And this is our Timber Tech story.

We built the Tempertech Tech. Hi, I'm Danny Beard with Left Coast Underground, and I'm on KMED. 631. I was reading this morning that an island I used to visit back when I was a kid growing up in Myland, Ohio. Kelly's Island, Ohio. Boy, as dry as we have been here in Southern Oregon over the winter and over the spring and the summer, now, the summer now, they had 17 inches of rain there on Kelly's Island, Ohio. It's about 10 miles north, I want to say northwest of Sandusky out in Lake area.

We'd always take a ferry to go out there, pretty small island, about four square miles. But 17 inches of rain overnight. Incredible flooding, which has been going on. You're just pumping everything out there today. 17 inches. 17 inches, that is almost the entire rainfall that the, the city of Medford will get on a typical year. I think we're somewhere between 18 or 19.

Got it all in one night. So dry hair and abundance of riches there for some reason. I wouldn't mind a little more rain, but 17 inches in one night, I'd probably pass on that. Hi, good morning. KMED. Who's this? Welcome. Yeah, Bill?

Yes. Good morning. Are you on there? Yes, I am. Yeah, good morning. Your previous caller is he, he's not still on the line. I don't think, right? So I was just wondering if he knew were a good part of my brother sold his house in California

and got the hell out of there. He's heading back to the hill country of Texas and looking around for some property. What would be some better areas that are drought that are drought resistant? Yeah, I don't know if I can speak for Mike Olson. Mike Olson was the guy who called used to live around here, but he's living in Pearl, Texas, is where he said he sat up and he really likes it. it. But he did say it's pretty arid. Like Pearl, like Pearl, like Pearl at a shell or a pearl necklace, that kind of thing.

All right? Yeah. My brother, he's heading back to Dallas for an apartment to scout around, look around. Yeah. Property. He says things are just gone great guns and very busy, and they just opened a stock market there just a few days ago. So we are looking at some capital shifts. Interesting times were in here, Chris.

That's for sure. Well, I like it here. I wouldn't give up. He's just moving there for a tax break because he's on his pension in retirement. He doesn't want to pay the 9% to Oregon. I get that. But I just live where I want to live. You know, I don't really. Yeah, no, I don't blame you on that. But I appreciate that. So, well, tell them what he thinks about Pearl or maybe I can get Mike's number and then give it to you some point. All right? Appreciate the call there, Chris. Got a roll here. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here. the moment James Taylor joins me from the Heartland Institute, too, and we're going to be talking about that heat. How much heat is too much, and is it true that we're experiencing? It's never, ever been hotter. More of that coming up.

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James Taylor is the president of the Heartland Institute. Heartland Institute, interesting bunch of scientifically bent people. All right. And James, it's a pleasure having you on. Welcome to the show. Good morning. Hey, thanks for having me on, Bill. Tell us a bit about what the Heartlet Institute is all about and what the mission is. I noticed a lot of things when it comes to energy and, uh, the climate alarmism. You talk a lot about that there. I want you just break it down for us, please. Sure.

We are a non-profit, nonpartisan organization. Our mission is to discover, develop, and promote freedom-oriented solutions to the problems of base society. We became involved in the climate change debate back around the year 2000, because what we noticed is that all of these so-called solutions that were being proposed for climate change involved growing government, giving more money and power to government at the expense of the people. And certainly for creating a climate crisis, you have to do what you need to do to stop it. But we wanted to look under the hood to make sure because we've seen this song and dance before. You make up some big problems, some crisis that needs to be solved, and the solution is money and power

to government. And the scientific evidence says exactly the opposite. And we'll dig into more than here in just a moment. In your experience at Heartland Institute, is there any evidence that the rise of technocracy, which some people have talked about, which was talked about during the Great Depression, but it died away? But is climate alarmism, in your view, connected to people who would like it to be pretty much a technocratic world in which the scientific dictatorship rules rather than the people themselves? Oh, absolutely. But it's beyond that because it's not just the scientific minds. It's the government-designated best experts, not the best experts in the field, not the best evidence,

but you have government that would set about saying these are the top experts and they're going to set the policy based on climate science, but it's a farce. Okay, very good. James, let's break down some things here. It's been arguably a pretty warm, it's been a warm, well, it was a dry winter. here in southern Oregon. And we're kind of an arid area anyway, you know, but still, it was dry, it's been really dry, it's been really hot, too. And yet I've been hearing nothing but it's never been hotter, never been drier.

And I don't know, maybe it hasn't been this way. But the Heartland Institute put out the climate realism fact check. And I was wondering if you can kind of break down what the actual peer-reviewed science is saying about this. I always thought that we just had cycles of hot and then maybe cool and wet and maybe hot and dry and that sort of thing, but maybe I'm just full of nonsense. What's the story? You're not full of nonsense. Well, let's start with the heat. What we know when we look at the nation as a whole where we have records dating back more than 100 years is that heatways were much more severe and persistent during the first half of the 20th century than they have been any time recently.

So, yes, the United States is a large geographical place. There's always going to be places that are hotter than normal. You can expect there will be temperatures that will break records regularly, both for highs and lows. But we do know for heat waves, heat waves are far less frequent and severe throughout the country. Now, regarding drought, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, they are measuring the precipitation throughout the country. They do this all the time, and then they designate areas that are very wet and very dry. And they do this monthly. They've done it going back to 1895.

And what we see right now is that we are right now in the longest period in recorded history, so going back to 1895, where we have not had at least 40 percent of the country facing very dry conditions. It used to be that this would happen more than once a decade on average, but it's been more than 40 years now since we've had, even for a single month, 40% of the country experiencing drought. So certainly some places will experience drought. Some places will experience severe drought here and there. But just say it's a global warming or climate change issue defies the facts because the

trend is that we have fewer and less severe drought. That's interesting because I was just mentioning before we came on that in my old hometown of Mylan, Ohio, Kelly's Island, which is a small island off the shores of Lake Erie, about 10 miles from Sandusky. just had 17 inches of rain. And so we're thinking like, man, we could have used some of that here. They had 17 inches of rain in one night. I don't know if you saw that story.

But of course, they're also in the middle of the lake, so there's a lot of water around to condense for rain. And here, 17 inches might be close to an entire year's rain, you know, for us here in Southern Oregon. Here's some interesting fact. In Sandusky, by the way, beautiful place. So the Great Lakes, there was a period for like five or ten years. around the year 2000, where the lake levels went down a little bit. And people were saying, oh, this is global warming climate change.

Sea droughts drying up the Great Lakes. And it was just one short period. Since then, Great Lakes levels have persistently, moderately, persistently been rising. And now they have very recently recorded their highest different levels recorded. And so what are we hearing the news? Oh, this is global warming climate change that causes Great Lakes to rise. So this is what happens. If you have more rain, they blame it on global warming.

Less rain, they blame it on global warming. If you have a perfectly average year, they blame it on global warming. They say you're not supposed to have perfectly averages. They're supposed to fluctuate. Global warming can do everything. You just can't win. It's amazingly powerful. Okay.

James, what about, you know, the way, in fact, I actually wrote to the Fox News channel. We have Fox News Radio. We're a Fox News radio affiliate for radio news. But they will advertise their Fox Weather Pops. podcast with the weather people there within the Fox universe of some sort. And they keep running this ad, and they've been running it for like two years now, at least. And everything is, and with the changes here, temperatures 30 degrees above normal. It's like a sound clip there.

And they do it again and again and again. And I can't help but think that this is a conditioner of sort, or a psychological conditioner of some sort is what it seemed like to me. And I said, would you knock an off or at least update this? Try some different scare technique, but what do you know about them? Yeah, well, first of all, I love Fox News as a whole, but there are some areas where they're suspect. For example, we all know for their polling. They always forecast large Democrat victories that don't materialize.

They hired Democratic pollsters who are on their polling shop. But people say, oh, it's Fox News says this, is the conservative bench. It's the same thing with their weather. In fact, when they launched the Fox News Weather Channel, whatever they call it, They had big press releases talking about how climate change is going to be central to everything they do, and they feel it's their mission to tell the world about how scary climate change is. When you go into, before we even see the weather, but you go into it saying, we are going to make it seem like the climate crisis regardless, well, then that's what you're going to get.

So this is an offshoot of Fox News that, again, like their polling desk, is not representative of conservatives, and it's not even representative of objective facts. That's interesting. So it's not just me to have noticed that bent, that thumb on the weather scale, so to speak. Yes, indeed. All right. What else do we have? Now, I've noticed here that we've had, and by the way, it's been serious over in Europe because there they have not tended to do a lot of air conditioning in their places because

power is very expensive, very expensive to put in air conditioning and run it there in the European Union. Of course, they're shutting down their nuclear power plants. It's not real smart thing to do, in my opinion. But now we've had several thousand people die in the heat, though. But you have some research from Lancet when it talks about heat deaths versus cold deaths. It's kind of interesting. Right. So the Lancet is probably the most prestigious medical science journal in the world. They have published, and really more than once, they've published peer-reviewed studies, and the data all show the same that throughout the world cold kills about 20 times more people than heat. And that's the case virtually everywhere.

In fact, it's most pronounced in Africa where one would think that, oh, you're going to have all these heat deaths. Yeah. But I was in Germany during the heat wave. It was 106. It broke a record. They had a high-pressure system set up that sucked all the hot air from the Sahara Desert. It was a very unusual place for a high-pressure system set up. That's what it did.

Oh, boy, that had to have been miserable in that area with the humidity, was it? I'll tell you what, I live in Florida, and I sat outside during the afternoon and smoked cigars, and it was warm, but it was nowhere near as warm as the typical Florida June day, July day as well. But yes, nobody had air conditioning. It's not just that electricity is so expensive, which it is because of these climate policies that get rid of coal, nuclear, but it's also because government policies discourage. and in fact in many places ban air conditioning. They're ripping them out of people's homes in the United Kingdom because they want to reduce carbon dioxide emissions. But it's killing people. Cold kills far more people than heat.

It just astounded me to read that you would see that hospitals, hospitals where they're trying to treat people in the worst shape, they wouldn't have air conditioning. You would think at the very least you would do it there in these halls of medicine, I guess. Right, absolutely. And really throughout Europe, give people a choice. Would you rather have heat in the winter or air conditioning in the summer? And they will all say heat in the winter because cold kills more people than heat.

And they all do have heat. But they don't have air conditioning. Now, what about Europe's heatway being declared the worst ever? It's like every time I hear some kind of weather reports, like it has never been worse. I'm thinking, like, compared to what? And how do they know? Because most of the recorded weather has been what? 100, 110 years at best?

Right. The United States has far and away the best temperature station network, the best precipitation network, et cetera, and the whole world, and ours only goes back 100 years. For most of Europe, it's still spotty, and to the extent that it's been somewhat reliable, you're really talking to the last 50 years ago or so. And even when they say the worst ever, when you look at it, even for that record, whether it's 50 years in Europe or 100 years in the United States, it's usually garbage. You look at the data and it's not the case. But even if this is the case, okay, you're going back 50 years, maybe 100 years. Well, I mean, these things happen. You have hot heat records and cold records set globally at various places all the time. It's what happens. All right. What about this setup for the El Nino? I've been hearing a lot about this, and the talk about El Nino is going to be pretty rough. That would tend to make us warmer and drier, if I recall correctly, won't it? Right. Well, you know, it's funny because the global temperatures are nowhere near records, records going back 30, 40, 50 years where we have a satellite temperature era where we actually have a reasonable view of global temperatures.

But the media puts this out as if it's already happened. It's the worst ever. It's certainly not the case. And if temperatures do rise to the warmest since 1979 when we've had satellite coverage to gauge global temperatures, the biggest reason will be going back two years ago where you had these global rules run through the United Nations that's banned sulfur dioxide emissions, especially from ships. Sulfur dioxide emissions are cooling factors. So what you did is you took all these cooling agents out of the atmosphere and you had a one degree Celsius jump in just one year

that scientists, peer-reviewed literature, it's not in dispute. It's not due to global climate change. It's due to what humans are doing in terms of the emissions mix from something that has nothing to do with carbon. That's really interesting because I wondered about this because I know that there was talk that even back in the Pittsburgh area where I grew up then as a young boy that back then they had a lot of sulfur dioxide. Now, I'm not advocating that we pollute, right? Because it was, the air was pretty chewy around there. The cars would rust out from the acid rain that we would get in that neighborhood back in the days.

And this was prior to, you know, the Clean Air Act, all that kind of stuff. But the thing is there was talk that actually we were a bit cooler in those days because of all the industrial emissions. And so it's what nature would have had us hotter, I guess, other than for human activity. Is that kind of one way of putting it? Kind of a strange man bites dog kind of thing? Pretty much. But what we're looking at is going back since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution, you know, there's been emissions and including sulfur dioxide. And, yes, I mean, less sulfur dioxide is good.

But the thing is, is that if you have a dramatic decrease and you see a one-degree Celsius jump in temperatures like that, you can't blame carbon dioxide or climate change. You have to say what it is. This is something that we have done that has changed the mix, not in greenhouse gases, but in something else. And even with that one-degree Celsius jump, even with the El Nino that we're into, we still, temperatures are not even close to being at the highs for the post-1979 satellite record. Is it time to start changing the way we measure temperature? And the reason I bring this up is that so often the temperature stations were located in fields back when they were first built back in the day.

Well, now with urbanization, a lot of these temperature stations are now in the middle of a big city. and they're, well, they're influenced by the urban heat island. I mean, like here in Southern Oregon, we had pear orchards, and now it's asphalt, concrete, and black roofs, right? And then we wonder why the city gets a little bit warmer, why the temperatures indicate that. What do you think? Right, absolutely.

So at the Heartland Institute, we have put out two comprehensive studies in which we have gone out and surveyed where the temperature stations are, and we show where urbanization has grown around them. There's more asphalt. Some of them are literally next to airport runways where you have the heat exhaust from jet engines that are warming them. Some of them are actually right above barbecue grills. They're placed there because it's convenient for them just to walk out the door and measure the temperature. So that's why I mentioned the satellite data, because what we discovered in our reports is that more than half of the reported warming

because NASA and NOAA populated by climate alarmists, they want to use their temperature data from these corrupted stations. When you look at the satellite temperatures, they're rising much more modestly than what our official government sources report. And when you look at the stations that are not corrupted by urban heat islands, we see, again, far less warming than is being reported in the media and by climate activists working for the government. Okay, so just understand, be a little skeptical when you hear the reporting about it's never been worse, it's the worst ever, because we're still being spun even right now. We're still being spun in the media reports on this. Right. And also a broader context is very important. So the last ice age ended about 10,000 years ago.

And what we know is human civilization formed about 6,000 years ago. for the vast majority of those 6,000 years that human civilization has existed, temperatures have been significantly warmer than today. The warming that we've had in the last century is because we're emerging from the little ice age, which lasted from about 1,300 to 1900 AD, and those were the coldest temperatures of the past 10,000 years. So when they say the hottest temperatures on record, it's because they conveniently define the record as the past 100 years. But we know that for most of the time that human civilization has existed, temperatures were significantly warmer than today, and those were conditions under which human civilization developed and thrived. That's, well, to your point then, let's think about Greenland. There was a time, what, about a thousand years ago or so in Greenland, in which it was actually green. Wasn't there?

Right. So, right, so as we see when there is receding snow and ice in Greenland, And what we're seeing is that what's underneath, there's actually villages, there's homes, there are areas where sheep used to graze. So we know the temperatures were warmer than, again, not too long ago, about a thousand years ago, where Greenland could actually host thriving human populations. Can't do that today. Too cold.

Interesting stuff. James Taylor, once again, is president of the Heartland Institute. We'll get all your information up. And now, were you part of this climate realism fact check? Is that what you did you do that? Or was that you were partnering with some people? What's the story? So the Heartland Institute, CO2 coalition, CFact, and a few others, we work together and we share our information. We put out the fact check.

All right. Climate realism. We'll get that all up there, that report. James, thanks so much, and thanks for setting me straight a little bit this morning, okay? Noticing little signs like cracks, uneven concrete, or doors that suddenly don't close quite right. That's where TerraFerma comes in from, foundation repair to concrete solutions, their team helps homeowners protect and improve

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And KMEDE HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grads Pass. One of my favorite stories yesterday just cheered my heart. I was watching NBC5 News and I was taking care of my quarterly FCC reports, which I so dearly love. Said no Bill Meyer ever. But it has to be done. Every quarter comes by, you've got to write reports to the FCC. I'll tell you about it another time. So I'm watching NBC5 News while I'm doing my typing.

And they reported a story that just cheered me. And it had to do with the South Carolina. the Oregon Historical Society ended up possessing the mother load. They now have the mother load right now. The paper archives of the Medford Mail Tribune going back more than 100 years. And I was wondering what was going to happen with the archives of the Medford Mail Tribune. It closed in 2023. And then Sinclair Broadcasting apparently had possession of these, you know, when they were doing that partnership. I'm a little bit light on on how that all went down back in 2023, but anyway, they had possession of it.

It was a whole bunch of these big, these big file cabinets. And they called up the Southern Oregon Historical Society and said, hey, you got three days, but come down here and you can take the archives. And so they went down, grabbed it. And I got seven volunteers together, and they scampered, they got right on it. And so now they have all of this.

It's a huge archive. and they're going to be working on this, I would imagine, for months, probably digitizing it, going through photos and various deals. There's the microfilm and all the rest of it and getting it all categorized and cataloged. And I don't know how much of it they'll be able to bring online, but still, great job, Southern Oregon Historical Society. It might be a great time to drop them a few bucks because they're going to need to get some help and get that. That's going to be a huge, huge deal. but wonderful and it just cheered my heart to know that the archives were not just going to disappear and I was really concerned about that for a while

I wrote Stephen Sasselow the former owner of the Mail Tribune here a couple of years ago and asking about the digital archives and he never got back to me and maybe he didn't get my email he and I had shared correspondence every now and then ever since the newspaper had closed because I got to tell you Stephen Sasslow really worked hard to try to steer the SS newspaper Titanic, known as the Medford Mail Tribune at that time, to avoid hitting the iceberg. He really tried.

I think he did the best he could, you know, trying to work that, but they weren't able to make the business pencil. But now what I'm wondering about, so the Southern Oregon Historical Society has the paper archives and all these filing cabinets filled with it. I'm wondering what has happened to the digital. archive, the actual web pages, because now I know the website's gone, so the server is shut

down, but I'm hoping that there's still a good archive of all those stories that were written because there were many, many years that there was not a whole lot of newspaper being put out, but a lot of digital stories. And I'm wondering what happens with this, you know, so you want to look up something from 10, 15 years ago, and you would be able to find it on the Mail Tribune's archive at that point. I'm curious if Sasslow still has that. I might reach out to him again. I don't know if the email I have for him is good or not.

But I might check it out because he really was trying to do the best that he could during that time. And the business model was just tough. It's been tough for a lot of legacy media here. And I feel fortunate to be some of the last guys standing, you know, as it were here in Southern Oregon. And happy to be in your home or your car or wherever you. you happen to be this morning. Appreciate you listening. We'll check Fox News here in just a minute, and then we'll have the Hannity update, and then we have more of your calls because it's pebbled in your shoe Tuesday. There's something that's bugging you. It's a great day to get it off your chest.