Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 07-07-26_TUESDAY_8AM

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

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This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. As always, delighted to have back one of my favorite guests. It's Nill Gravilius. He's a crime expert, author, U.S. Army veteran. He has completed three tours in Korea, DMZ service.

and I've been reading his book the last couple of weeks since I last spoke with Nils, and he's the author of The Last Lawman, True Stories of a Private Detective. It's interesting when you look back at Nils. Nils, I think one of the most fascinating insights into your character was when you told, did you tell your mother, I think, back at the time, and I think you grew up with progressive parents. Would that be a fair assessment, first off? I think that might be an understatement, Mr. Monaster. But yes, my parents were progressives of the old sort of the FDR style, if you will.

Yeah, and your mother ended up turning into quite a famous lawyer. I ended up taking on the state of Oregon, the state of California, rather, at one point. And a famous unemployment case. Like I said, it's just a fascinating world that you grew up in. but the way you got into being a detective is quite colorful too. I've been going through it. I'm not going to give away the whole story because the story is too big, all right? But I was fascinated how you became a private detective,

and it actually came through a tragedy when your father ended up passing away. And he kind of in some ways gave you one of your life's greatest compliments or encouragement to actually take up. Being a private detective, how do that work out? Tell me about that, please. Well, it worked out rather well. Contemporaneous with my father's death, I was working as a Pinkerton agent. I was undercover in an industrial setting on a very serious matter trying to root out drug dealing and drug use at a company installing jet engines in commercial passenger airliners. Yeah.

And my father said, well, the Pinkerton's anti-labor. They hate the working man, all of this sort of thing. Yeah, and he was playing the tapes out of the FDR world, right? That kind of error. Yeah, that makes sense. Sure. That sort of thing. And then one, you know, I'm two weeks into the assignment.

I get a page from him. This is back in the world of pagers. And the younger listeners don't know what a pager is anymore, but I got on the pay phone, another anachronistic device and called my father. and my father told me there was an article in the beginning of the business section of the Los Angeles Herald Examiner about how Los Angeles private investigators often earned in excess of $100,000 a year. Well, this was, I think, in 1988, 89. And he said to me, this might not be such a bad idea after all, and I will be very pleased to be your business partner.

Well, he was dead mere months later. Yeah. But the fact that he was willing to go into business with you to make that happen, that was he wasn't exactly a father who praised you often. Would that be fair to say? My father was, my father and mother both were a bit demanding, and they had ideas. My mom wanted me to attend Dartmouth, like her father and her uncle and her, you know, all of this. And if I could have joined the Foreign Legion at 13, I would have Bill Maia.

Well, you told your mother, I think one of my friends. My favorite lines in the book is when you told your mother how I want to live, words to the effect, I want to live a life like a Steve McQueen movie. And my mother said to me, you're an idiot. Not even Steve McQueen has that life. No, I think you kind of proved to prove them wrong a little bit in that respect, because there was a lot of adventure, and there is a lot of adventure in the last lawman. I can't give it higher ratings.

It's one of my most favorite books that I've read so far. and I read a lot of books in my career here and in my line of work. So I just wanted to say, way to go. I'm a fanboy, and that's why I'm happy to keep bringing you back here now and then. So then, go ahead, please. Oh, no, I'm very pleased. I want your audience to know that there are a lot of professional memoirs written by police detectives, private detectives, that sort of thing.

Mine is a bit different. It's not a running series of gun battle. or taking down bad guys. There's some of that in there. There are stories about taking people down and doing violence and intrigue and being exposed to dangerous things. But it's more about how I became a private detective

what the profession did to me and what I did to the profession, at least in Los Angeles. What I also found interesting was I was intrigued by your evaluation when you were in the military as a counterintelligence agent. And I guess what, you were first a tank scout, I think, working in South Korea.

Isn't that what you were doing back then? Well, I wasn't a tank scout. I was a cavalry scout. Calvary Scout, pardon me. You can, you know, I was briefly in an armor unit at Fort Benning, but most of my career in combat arms, I was in light infantry outfits and a mech infantry outfit. And the scout platoon is the eyes and the ears of the battalion commander. And so that's sort of the beginning of surveillance work, having to report under stress,

having to stay awake for days at a time working on things. And it was a good introduction. And I also get into it at the back of the book, what I look for in someone that I apprentice, I've apprenticed a few people from start to finish to license here. California has a very strict licensing law. and not everybody is cut out for the work. You could have every physical and rational ability but lack the emotional fortitude to see the job through. And the emotional part is very important.

Yeah, did you have the emotional fortitude in the early part of your career when you were in the military? No, you're having some bottle problems, as I think you termed it back then. Well, yeah, you know, at a certain point I fell into the bottle, particularly. when I got out of the army, there were a few years, some dark years there where I was running and gunning, picking up fugitives, that sort of thing. I once landed in San Felipe, Mexico, looking for a bail fugitive. It was like I was chasing Micah, Fools Gold, or something like that. He was a drug dealer. He was an American citizen who barely spoke English, and I'm looking for him in San Felipe, Mexico. It's 125 degrees in August of 1990.

And I'm running out of money. And all I can see is occasionally I get a glimpse of his car, which was a frosted pink BMW, that it belonged to a stripper or a hooker or something. And I can't find him, and I'm running out of money. I think I was down to $8. Some woman took pity on me and let me sleep in her motel room, and it was $125 during the day. And my dots and B-210 got stolen and stripped next to the beach. and I didn't know how I was going to get back to the United States, let alone get my man.

And I finally spotted him by watching his car. I found his car, stayed on the car, and took him at gunpoint, stuffed him in the trunk of the car, and there was enough gasoline in the car to make it all the way up Mexican Highway 8, state highway 8, past the salt flats, you know, north of the Sea of Cortez, and the border crossing at Mexicali and intercollective, while the U.S. Border Patrol flagged me for secondary inspection, and I showed them that I had a bail fugitive in the trunk, and I brought them into the passenger seat and gave him some water,

and I showed them the arrest warrant I had for this, man. They told me, you're gambling hard, man. If the Mexican police catch you arresting even an American citizen, they will charge you with kidnapping. No kidding. Possession of a gun in Mexico. Yes, so is an incredibly risky operation, even just getting a bail fugitive back, wasn't it, Nils? It was. Well, that was the sort of stuff I was willing to do when I was young.

I didn't care if I lived or died, to be honest, Bill, my problems had problems. I had so many problems, but I slowly got it together, and I took every single thing I learned as a scout, as a contractor, as a counterintelligence man, and the things I learned in the Pinkerton Service and put it to work on the streets of Los Angeles and many other cities in this country and other countries. I've worked internationally. Lots of work, my. I'm about a third of the way through so far.

I'm kind of taking it a bit of the time and sort of savoring it, Nils, is what it's been working. And I found it interesting the way you describe government counterintelligence workers and how it's not just men. and that there is such admiration that seems to come through the pages in your view of them, you know, fiercely intelligent. And it's not exactly the most, well, the best way to operate your career in the military. Is that kind of fair?

It was considered a career backwater. In military intelligence, all the big funding, all the important work seemingly was with signals intelligence. You know, that's a big part of what's collected. and so for a counterintelligence officer, many of them were viewed as fools for going into human intelligence. Well, that paid off later during the global war on terror. The counterintelligence people were often the only ones with an insight as to who was connected to whom and able to operate. And I can't get too specific here. There's a very anodyne description of what counterintelligence people do within our military and civilian agencies, that sort of thing.

It's deeply secret work, but it is invaluable work. So those people were willing to sacrifice fast to, that sort of thing, to work in this particular realm. It is fascinating. I wasn't a good fit just simply because I'd occasionally have a beer or two and shoot my mouth off and say what I thought about this person or that general. Probably not the best thing to do as a counterintelligence agent at the bar, right? I think, well, I would never reveal secrets. I would shoot my mouth off in private conversation with colleagues, and that's where I got into trouble. I know there was one time you stopped the Korean train by flashing your badge or your...

Yeah, I thought it was the express train to Osam. I was late for a date, and the blue train looked like it was the express train, and it was the official train of a very high-ranking South Korean. and created quite a problem. And so fun and frivolity ensues. That's the read of the last lawman, folks. I just have to understand you. We're just scratching the surface. Just get a copy.

You will love it. And it's just one of my favorites. It's nonfiction that reads like fiction sometimes, just the way of the world goes. I wanted to take it over to some of the current crime that we're dealing with. with right now. Can you explain to me how in such a privileged, a privileged area such as Newport Beach, California, that you probably have an all-out riot over July 4th weekend there. As a private detective and knowing people, as you know, what happened there for real? social media like TikTok has the tendency to quickly work up a mob organically.

It can also happen synthetically like we've seen with the communist Antifa riots, Black Lives Matter, etc., where they organize using social media and tell people what neighborhood to go to to throw rocks and light things on fire, that sort of thing. This was spontaneous, organic, with young people drunk and probably high on pot or whatever and deciding to caper and run amok in Newport Beach. They perceived Newport Beach as soft, an easy place to run amok. And 400 people wound up getting arrested. Some stores got looted, things like that. Social media has a tendency to do that.

Every single young person now is a cyborg. They are half, you know, young person with coursing hormones, and then they have that smartphone in their hand telling them all sorts of bad things to do. And they get lots of social approval for capering badly. Do you think that there is a plan that perhaps, even here in southern Oregon, where I think we're becoming a less high trust society than we once were Nils? I don't know if you would agree with me on that. But what made America great, I think, in many ways, was more of a high trust society. And there's less of that going on. And I think that what we noticed in New York, in Newport, rather, is probably a growing trend.

What can we do to, even with our own forces, to nip that in the bud more effectively, in your view? We have too many young people who don't have fathers, mothers who married the state or the county. and launch child after child, and it just creates more and more problems. And they get all of the things that they should get from a father, only in a negative sense, from social media. I think that this is a real problem, and we have to address what we value in this country. Young people need the reinforcement of an intact household they truly do. There's no substitute for it.

An electronic device cannot be a father anymore than it can be a mother, a lover, a schoolteacher, etc. It is just an electronic device. And so family formation and family structure is still key. Intensely so. One of the reasons we are a low-trust society is we have suppressed rugged individualism in men and women alike. You're not supposed to stand out from the crowd. you're not supposed to protect your rights, the rights of your neighbors, the rights of your family. You're supposed to go along with whatever the current trend is.

We made our society intensely insecure with the COVID-19 lockdown and quarantine and that sort of thing. I remember early into the COVID-19 thing, thinking to myself, if this disease is what they are telling us it is, our homeless camps will become vast graveyards, and that did not occur. The homeless get everything else. They get the clap. They get the flu. They get diphtheria. They get typhus.

All of these other diseases. They survived COVID-19. And so this was an exercise in making Americans feel insecure and not trust each other. That was a tell, in other words. Indeed, it looked to me like a sci-op. Contemporaneous with all of this, I reread David Ogilvy's book, Convessions of an Adman, which is all about the advertising business and public relations, circa 1960 or so. And it's very telling. It looks to me like an intelligence agency's psychological warfare operation conducted on an unsuspecting. civilian populace. Speaking of psychological warfare, I wanted to, well, get your take on the latest developments in the Charlie Kirk's Killers trial. And I didn't watch much of that yesterday.

I was busy doing some other things, but I have a feeling you probably paid attention to it deeply so that I didn't have to at that time. And do you believe in the bones of your, you know, private detective persona here that, there is nothing as far as a conspiracy theory with Charlie Kirk's accused killer that with all the millions of hours of video conspiracy, mongering, which has been going on, that it's much simpler that it would appear, or is it more complex than it may appear? Any thoughts on that? I'm going to apply Alchem's Razor to this. It is my belief that Tyler Robinson is responsible for the murder.

of Charlie Kirk, he did it, his rifle that he got from his grandfather as a young person, his communications to his boyfriend, all of these things. I don't think anybody else is involved. Now, after the fact, we have lots of people trying to distinguish themselves in alternative media with these crazy theories, and some of them go beyond merely social media. They're social influencers like Candice Owens, that sort of thing. Some of them are deeply disturbed. Some of them are intensely cynical and just want the clicks. So I'm not going to get involved in a whole bunch of that. I've done some media commentary on this case. It looks pretty open and shut to me, Bill. Okay. Any new developments yesterday that we need to be aware of? Well, there was some

video evidence that got enhanced by the prosecutor's office where they zoomed in on some video and added arrows to point to certain figures in the video and the judge disallowed this video but gave the prosecution leave to amend the video, restore it to its original thing. And, you know, so when the prosecutor presents this as evidence in the trial, we're just at the felony preliminary hearing stage right now, the prosecutor can point. out this or that in the video and zoom it in in the trial, but can't present it as altered. It's like altering the crime scene. You can't do that.

That was the only thing he disallowed. Tyler Robinson's lawyers, thankfully, are doing a pretty good job of bringing all of their objections now so that he can't later claim ineffective assistance of counsel, which is one of the ways of convicted murderer gets a new trial or even, will get charges dismissed at the appellate level if he has ineffective attorneys. So we should be grateful that he does have good lawyers. Has there been a release of autopsy reports yet on Charlie Kirk's death and the specificity? Because I know what has fed a lot of the conspiracy videos and takes on it has to do with, you know, talk about, you know, a 30-od-six bullet underneath the skin.

and, you know, Charlie's neck was that strong, like the neck of iron. And it didn't make sense to me when I would hear stuff like that. And so it kind of gave credence to some of this going on. What is your opinion on all? Okay, so they're not discerning between different types of ammunition. A 30-0.6 steel core armor-piercing bullet with a black tip like the U.S. military would use in Korea at World War II. That particular cartridge, the bullet will pierce four and a half inches of a black tip, like the U.S. military would use. of steel reinforced concrete at 500 meters and keep on cooking.

So you would expect it through and through gunshot wound if that's what Tyler Robinson used. If he was using soft-tip hunting ammunition, you would expect the bullet to expand and fully expend the energy on the target, maybe go all the way through, but not always. And what is our neck, Mr. Meyer? it is a column of bone and muscle with a couple of pipes up the middle and two veins at the outer edge. That's what your neck is. It's bone and muscle. Okay. So it wouldn't necessarily be a through-and-through-gunshot wound.

Let's wait and see what is produced as evidence at the trial as to the ammunition that was collected. I think some of the information came out about the autopsy, but I don't think the full autopsy report is available. of the public. Yeah, I appreciate this, though. You really are a wait and show me kind of guy. I've heard too much garbage, like all of the crazy theories about the JFK assassination. An American communist slaughtered a war hero and American president. And we have communists after communists like Mark Lane trying to obfuscate the fact that a fellow communist murdered our president. And many people in the middle, on the right, on the left, have bought into this crazy stuff that it was somebody other than Oswald who killed President Kennedy. They overlooked the fact that after Oswald slaughtered President Kennedy, he went to a movie theater on foot and on his way to the movie theater.

He also murdered a Dallas police officer with a 38 revolver that was his. It was his rifle at the book depository. He tried to use that rifle in an attempt on the life of a general named Walker in months prior to killing President Kennedy. Interesting take on it now, Niels rather. I appreciate the talk as always here, and I can't highly recommend more, the last lawman. Out of curiosity, has Hollywood approached you to get film rights to this? I've got several people talking to my agent about various ideas. Some want to do reality TV.

Some want to do dramatic, episodic. Some want to do cinema, big screen. I don't know. My own preferred, I have my own scenario worked out for 30 episodes of a three-season episodic. sort of following the trajectory of my life. I don't know. I'd want to use somebody else's name.

Who knows? You know, maybe they'll use my name. It's a bit embarrassing, Bill, to be frank. Okay. Well, my final question for you, your style of speaking, do you speak like your father? You described your father in the book as, you know, he was a trumpet player, I guess, a highly developed diaphragm, I think, is the term. And you said he spoke almost like a word.

woodwind, like a woodwind style. Do you speak like him? I'm just curious. I don't know. I can perfectly mimic my father if absolutely necessary. I can scare the trousers off of my sisters doing it. Our father was a drill instructor in the United States Marine Corps for a while, and he had a parade ground voice that could decalcify my spine at 100 meters as a child. He could be scary if had to be scary. All right. Very good. Great read. And I'm going to keep on that. And I'm also going to keep having you back if you'll, well, grant me the privilege now and then, okay? Nilsbervillus. I will come on any time that you need me to come on. I want to thank you again for lending me your microphone and allowing me to communicate to your fantastic audience in our Pacific Northwest.

Nils Grievous, once again, author of The Last Lawman. Thank you, Nils. Be well. Take care of Bill. Bye. say 37. This is KMED in 993 KVXG. I know that hiring can be challenging. You need someone to match your role perfectly. Well, now, 7-4177. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Meyer Show. Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Steve, I'll give another bite here. You read the last lawman too. I'm in the process of reading it, just really enjoying it so far. But you say there's a lot more. Yeah, you know, Mr. Gravelyos is, his book is a real person.

You know, it's warts and all about how he got where he got. I appreciate this. You know, it is not a standard what I would call, you know, the genre of true detective series. It's not that kind of book at all, really. It's not. A point that he makes is that 2% of the population are criminals, you know, real criminals who live with criminal. intent, the psychopathy of what they do and how they are, he even makes the statement that they're not, they're irredeemable. There's nothing you can do that can change them. That 2%, right?

Yes, yes. Or less. But, but, you know, those are the ones that he was involved with because he made a statement that they're very smart. You know, you can talk to them and, and, they're very engaging a lot of the times, but their heart is to gather as much as they can for themselves with no respect for anybody else. Make no bones about it. And in spite of the progressive push to eliminate prisons and defund the police, that's just a total nonsense. Yeah, you set everybody else, you set those people lose. on the general population. And the criminals, he says, this is his take on it, are very smart.

That's why they're hard to catch. And that's kind of why he feels like he had a gift and was able to do that. And I am old and have been through many things. And I'm sitting to look back at my life. And I wonder, you know, if I was a pinball, I bounced off of a lot of different things. And I kind of feel like that there was more to it. and just a random thing. And Mr. Cabellius kind of has the same statement.

Yeah, I know that the one thing that he, I don't know if I completely agree with him that some of the more famous crimes are as cut and dried as they appear. That might be where I disagree with him gently. Yeah, well, the experience of being involved in that sort of thing. And there absolutely can be, especially when you get the news media involved in something, because they hype it to get more clicks specifically.

So, you know, his statement of Occam's Razor is generally true. It's not as complicated as it's made out to be. Sometimes it is because, you know, there's all kinds of intervening factors and people working together, that sort of thing. But, you know, his statement about Oswald killing President Kennedy, yes, that particular situation leads itself to all kinds of speculation. Because I also think that the way that it was investigated and spun to ignore certain unpleasant truths, I think. Absolutely. The CIA was involved in it.

It was an op. They didn't want people involved in it. But see, you can bend to people. The Internet is wonderful for that because you might not be a bad person. you might be involved in a few things, but you can be bent in a direction. And, you know, the CIA might certainly have been involved in bending him because he was after the CIA. He had said that he wanted to destroy the CIA. Yeah, and this is JFK we're talking about.

Point well taken, Steve, I appreciate that as all. I always appreciate your thoughtfulness. It is 843 at KMED. It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday. New offers are added often, so check back frequently. Put money back in your pocket by visiting my Oregon Edeals.com and start saving today. Hi, I'm Megan McPherson with the McPherson Insurance Agency, and I'm on KMED. Cherise, from NoWires Now joins me on Open for Business.

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I don't know for sure, but yeah. Nils is definitely a show me the hard evidence on this one and not as speculative as many might be. Patrick writes me about the distortion in the news media over climate. And says, Bill, don't forget about the real feel crap. Oh, yeah, the temperature really feels. feels like and it's always 10 or 15 degrees warmer, right? That kind of thing.

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