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Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Morning news and Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday calls, then a talk with Daniel J. Schmid, Associate Vice President of Legal Affairs at Liberty Council. A trans teacher in Florida loses a legal battle to require students to buy in to the personal pronouns.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clouser Drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Happy to have you here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. How are you holding up? Is your power OK? Do things get back on for you? Happened last night for me about 11 o'clock.

Last night is when the power came back on went off about 11 and boy we were just booming and had a big downpour in my particular neighborhood. East Medford over by Foothill and the wind was crazy and it's just yeah it was quite it was quite a show last night. And we also have quite a few fire starts going on this morning. It looks like the Hepsi Mountain fire appears to be the biggest of them. We'll talk with Greg Roberts over at Rogue Weather around 730 this morning and get the latest on that. But you can join in. Tell me how you're holding up. 770-5633-770KMED By the way, the latest that we're looking at right now here as far as a Pacific power outages

Speaking of outages by the way Facebook live is down this morning And I don't know whatever happens something in the Wi-Fi network could be bumping around from the storm last night I don't know but unfortunately there wasn't time for me to repair that before Coming on you know we had to make sure they had everything else taken care of this morning Unfortunately there wasn't time for me to repair that before coming on. We had to make sure that you had everything else taken care of this morning. But at one point we were looking at 25,000 customers for Pacific Power here in southern Oregon that were down. There were also a bunch in Klamath County that were down here because of the damage

and the fire and the damage, the lightning strikes and the wind. The biggest one we're looking at here right now, it's dropped down to about, oh gosh, about 6,000 in the Jackson County area, including several hundred in the Eagle Point area. You got about 5,000 in the actual Medford area. Another 900 going out on Highway 238 on the Applegate. We have 600, 700 or so in Josephine County. And that, the ones in Josephine County will be coming back, they claim by seven o'clock this morning or so. But what's going on here in Jackson County, a little more serious because Highway 238.

Highway 238, that's, you know, you get off Highway 238, Ross-Anneley, and then you go between there and Bybee Corners, which is West Main. That's all shut down. And that's shut down because we've got trees down and we have power lines in the street, in the road, on the road. And they're repairing that. Even then, that's also why one of my stations is out in Jacksonville, Cool 103, because it is, well, it's just down, and the power is probably going to be down. They say,

they claim it's going to be by three o'clock. As far as the closure though on Highway 238, this may take a little bit longer because there are just multiple trees I know they're gonna do their best Pacific Power just working like crazy to get the power back on but it's just it's it's gonna take some time it's gonna take some time here to to get that deal repaired the wind is really what was happening when was just incredible some people I saw on social media last night talking about trees just being whipped down and one... Was it Darren Thornton had his plum tree just filled with plums

and just going down? Yeah. And so it was a little... kind of a rough bumping night last night. 7705633770KMED, but yet it looks so pretty and calm this morning. And it even looked pretty last night. Anyway, how are you doing this morning, huh? Fourteen minutes after six? Good morning. Hi, this is Bill. Who's this?

Oh, this is old disc, Ronald Jay. Hey, Jay, what's going on with you this morning? Everything okay? I was noticing that I heard that Donald Trump is going to be giving aid to Crimea. Well, since we already went in there, bombed the place, let's take that oil, we'll turn off the spigot to Russia, we'll put the squeeze on those terrorists by taking their oil and we control their lifeblood and Okay, so we so you tell me just going into Iran. Is that what you're talking about this morning Jay? Yes. Oh, okay all right, I don't know if the I don't know if if

if that's necessarily of Where a lot of Donald Trump supporters tend to want to go at this point, but I appreciate your call. Yeah, I thought we were going to be talking about maybe some power issues here, but like I said, anybody can call. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning, Bill. It's Francine. Hey, Francine. How are you doing tonight? Or this morning, rather? I'm doing pretty good. And I want to talk about two topics. One, I'll get to second, but that's something I heard on the news this morning. But I just wanted to say that in terms of the power, there was a little bit of, we had

a little power outage here in talent last night, rural talent at least. I don't know what went on in town. Which is really interesting given how talent has had so much trouble over the, I guess maybe they got a lot of that fixed, but it's amazing. The power, some people had no problem at all last night. Well, yeah, what I was going to say is that it lasted for about 15, 20 minutes and then it flickered a few times. And then of course I did end up going to sleep, you know I'm such an old wheezy thing here but I don't know what else happened the rest of the

night but over the over the past you know few years I've noticed they've done a lot of work here and they've come to our properties and you know and had the tree people come and trim around the poles and you know they've and they've re rehung wire or cable or whatever you want to call it and stuff like that. They've been working pretty hard I think and so I think the Pacific Power deserves a little bit of credit for making an effort to prevent or power outages and to keep things safer here. Yeah, well I agree with you. Now on Highway 238, you know

that section I'm talking about which is closed right now? Yeah, well I don't know where it's closed exactly. Yeah, well it's between between Bybee Corner, which is West Main, West Main of Medford, goes all the way out there, hits 238, and then Ross-Anneley Lane, which would, you know, you go past the big, past, you know, the rogac and all the right and get to that, that whole two mile section is shut down. And that's the section that has those huge high lines in there. And they've lost lines there before in big storms in which the storms can be so hard,

they just snap some of those poles. And that's what apparently happened last night because there are lines down or there were lines down on the ground. As far as we know, the power is still out in that area, which means it also cuts off power to a lot of West Medford, to Jacksonville, Rouge, going all out there, all those lines that kind of interconnected right now. That's what's going on this morning. Yeah. going all out there, all those lines that kind of interconnected right now. That's what's going on this morning. Yeah, yeah. No, I know it's bad. I was just saying

that, you know, that I think they deserve a little bit of credit. I think they're making an effort. Oh, I agree. Doing good work. Okay, so moving on. Oh, there's actually one more thing I want to tell you before I get to the news thing. And that is yesterday I drove into Ashland from Talent and as I'm going down 99 there was these all these you know the little orange cones all just totally the whole center turn lane you know you could turn either way completely marked you know the little orange cones and there were two trucks out there and these guys had these it looked looked like burner, you know, long poles with some kind of a little heat thing, and they were burning off the yellow lines. Really?

What does that suggest to you? They were basically making it, I think they were removing the yellow lines. There was nothing wrong with them. It's not like, oh, we need to repaint them. I don't think. I don't know. So where were the yellow lines? Were they in the center? Are they talking about other... It was demarking the center lane, the one that you can pull into to turn,

you know, in the opposite direction. So why are we talking an additional road diet coming, huh? I have a feeling that's what's going to happen, yeah. All right. Where was this again? It was on 99 heading between Ashland and Talent, you know, like, yeah. Okay. It was all pretty far down. We'll have to take a look in the Oregon Department of Transportation plan there,

because remember they have this stupid multimodal plan, and that's what gave everybody the swide walk over on Highway 62. I know, I saw that yesterday, or a few days ago too. I was like, yeah, oh my god. All right. Hey, thanks for the tip on that, Francine. 770-5633. We're talking about is there some other news you wanted to get into? I'm sorry, I didn't want to touch. Yeah, yeah. Well, okay, this morning on the news, there was a, they did a, you know, a little piece where they were discussing how the once very vibrant neighborhood filled with people of other nationalities were starting to look like ghost towns or something because people are afraid to go out because of ice, right? That whole thing.

Yeah. Okay. So here, and they talked about how, you know, it's affecting property prices and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, rentals. Here's the part that gets me, Bill, and this is a bit of a pebble. Okay. So these people are afraid to go out. Why don't they go turn themselves in and say, hey, I'd like to apply for citizenship? Well, they'd have to self-deport.

There is no applying for citizenship while you're here illegally, though. Well, why don't they make a program like that? Don't you think that would get a little more cooperation from the good people? Why would you want to reward a citizenship application to someone who violated the law in the first place? Well, yes, but there are people who just did that for, you know, they're not here maliciously. And so in order to solve an issue perhaps and have better feelings around the nation, it would be sort of a healing thing perhaps to help stop some of this, you know, insanity that's going on. Because this whole thing is, you know, it's all about

divide, divide, divide. It's not good for us. Yeah, the one thing that you one thing that the one thing you do know is that it does appear that Trump is ready to pull kind of an amnesty even right now. So amnesty is not what I'm talking about. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just don't think that that, hey, you know, let's have a program. You're here illegally. Let's have you apply for citizenship.

Maybe we don't want you as a citizen. That're here illegally. Let's have you apply for citizenship. Maybe we don't want you as a citizen. That's all I would say. But I appreciate your call. Yeah, we'll have to get some other calls. That'll be another conversation, okay? All right? All right. All right. Thanks for that. Let me go to the next line. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? This is Gene. Hi, Gene. How are you in Wilderville? Is your power out? Are you okay now? Well About almost 11 o'clock last night. I got a call from Pacific Power about the lights being up Yeah, I had turned on my light to see who had called me in the middle of the night So I had power but it was supposed to be on until about 2 this morning.

And I'm thinking you had to wake me up for that. It's an automated thing. Did you call and ask for an update or did you report an outage on the phone? No. I was going to bed when the lights went out so I didn't even bother. Well you know what it is though. What it is, I have no doubt. Pacific Power knows that you can get pretty spicy. We better tell Gene when the power's coming back, okay? Yeah, the whole thing is they tell me when the power's coming back and it's usually on by then.

That's true. Thanks for the call there, Gene. I'm glad your power's on, really. Good morning. This is Bill. Hi, who's this? Hello? Bill.

Yes. Hi, Jerry. Hello. No, this is Dave. Oh, it's Dave. I'm sorry. You almost sounded like Jerry the Bull for a second. Go ahead. What's on your mind? Yeah, I didn't hear anything. That's why I was hesitant. Hey look, I have one thing I want to bring up with you, but before that I'll just say, you know, I live in Eagle Point and we were skirted the storm. It kind of went by us. Oh, good. But here's you know I did have occasion to go into town from Eagle Point you know around like around 9 10 o'clock and so several

several traffic lights were out in White City and that happens a lot but you know I don't know if everybody this maybe this is like a mini public service announcement for me, but if you don't know this, you should. When the street, when the signal at an intersection is out, you treat it like a four-way stop. And man, there were people just ripping through, you know, these big intersections. Really? Just ripping through it, not stopping, not treating it like a stop? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And that's mildly concerning to me. But I want to, this is a little off topic,

but I wanted to get your take, I'll give you my take on this whole thing with, you know, the whole Epstein, you know, Jeffrey Epstein thing that kind of came out yesterday, thing with the whole Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein thing that kind of came out yesterday, you know, when our government is, you know, it's like, well, there was no list, there was no this, there was no... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have a list on my desk and we're just in the middle of redacting them. And yeah. And now it's gone.

It's gone. The list is gone. What do you think, Dave? Well, look, I called this a long time ago. Look at the people allegedly, I have to say that, allegedly involved with this. Okay, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, the royal family, okay, Prince Andrew, Bill, we all know, these are the most powerful people in the world. Okay. And they're not, this will never, like I said, I've been calling this for months.

This information will never, ever, ever come out. How do you think this affects the credibility of the Trump administration, Dave, the, the Epstein thing? Yeah, I think, I think they said something, they said something that they shouldn't have said. But let's face it, these are incredibly powerful interests, and they'll do anything. We already know that because of the Plattons and the Royal Family. They'll do anything to protect their own. And they have the means and the connections and the power to do it.

I'm not saying it's right. It's sad, really. You're talking about it being reality then? Yeah, it's not gonna happen. It's never... And that's what it sounded like yesterday. It sounded like they got the lid shut on them and they were flat out told. Yeah, and now we have Bibi Netanyahu in town saying,

hey, let's give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize. Well, I don't know. Listen, I have no problem with that, but I always looked at Epstein as a joint CIA Mossad operation, a honeypot thing to get leverage on world leaders. So I think it worked. That's way above my pay grade, Bill, but I'll say this, Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize way more than Barack Obama did. Well at least he did something, yeah. Point well taken David. I appreciate the call. 7705633. And hi, good morning, this is Bill. Who's this? Welcome. Hi, it's Gene and you hung up just as I was trying to say something.

Well Gene, get to the point then. Sorry about that We had the lightning and thunder and no rain Yeah, we had lightning and thunder and lots of rain in my neighborhood Well, we didn't get rain because I'm sitting here watching The lightning strike and everything but we didn't have rain. But anyway, and as for invading Iran, somebody wants to be a Russia or Putin. You don't invade another country. All right, Gene. Thank you for the call. 627 at KMED. this is the Bill Meyers Show. When concrete around your home sinks, it's never pretty, and it's usually not safe either. Terra Firma has the solution.

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You know, I take a vacation day on Monday. Things always go to heck. I don't know what that is. It does seem to be a habit. At least, anyway, we're getting through this thing okay. good a heck. I don't know what that is. It does seem to be a habit. Anyway, we're getting through this thing. Okay. Six thousand people still without power this morning and a number of fires starts this morning. Mr. Outdoors will join me in about an hour. He'll give me the latest. Chris is in... Oh, by the way, no Facebook Live today because of internet problems within the building here. I don't know if it's storm related or not, but stuff happens sometimes. I'll have to figure it

out when I get off. Let me go to Chris. Hello Chris, what's on your mind today? Well, about the Epstein file thing, we just need to put it to bed. We're never gonna know. We never were gonna know. And I had told you before that the only investigation I care about is who is president. About the the autopen president autopen right? Yes president autopen that's the only thing that I care about. As far as the As far as the...I don't know, weather changes. I don't know, it's freaking weather. Oh well, you know, hey it happened. We have thunderstorms here in the summertime. Right. Unfortunately, they have thunderstorms there in Texas. I think it's terrible what the media is doing to them. Oh, and you know what's even worse though is hearing about some of the unhinged people

putting a political spin on these little girls, you know, dying. Yes, exactly. It's like, what kind of a ghoul are you? I just don't get that. Who are you? You know, I just don't get that. Yeah, exactly. But my personal big pebble in my shoe was that I wasted time. I did a lot of good things. I went to my very first live baseball game.

I went and got a phone for my dad, which he really needed. I put off a chore studying, which I really needed to do. And today I have no internet! Single point of failure, right? Yes. It was like, okay, I've got today. It'll be cool. Nope. And every time, you know something Chris, every time I'll talk to people, the techie type people say, put everything in the cloud. Put your documents in the cloud. Put your music in the cloud. Put everything in the cloud. What could go wrong? And well, this single point of failure. Just saying. Yeah. All right. I'm a fan of backups in my possession. Kind of like, you know, I want my own Epstein files here in my possession. I don't, you know, want the Epstein files up in the cloud where they could be

vanished. Oh, they are...that's just ridiculous. I mean... Yeah, I know. I got it. Hey, I really appreciate the call, Chris. Be well. I hope your pebble goes away. Let me go to Steve in Sunny Valley. Steve, you wrap it up. How you doing this morning? We got a couple of guests and then we'll have a few more calls coming up. Who's this? I'm doing great. This probably should be a Thursday call because it's kind of conspiracy theory. That's okay. And I'd like to see what Bill Gates and all the other people, the Clintons, how they behave now that Trump is holding the files and has the sword of Damocles over their head, because I think that's what's going on. He figures it's more valuable to use it as leverage than it

is to release it. But you know, that's not his call. As the chief law, as the chief person in charge of enforcing the law, you know, and making sure that the laws are faithfully executed, it's not his call to sit there and say, you know, I think it's better to have leverage over the dirt bags of society rather than bringing them to justice. That's absolutely right, but we don't live in a perfect world. And I think that if he has some way to stop these people from doing more evil, that's the price we pay. Well, I'm kind of a big fan of evil people going to jail. That's kind of my take on it.

Yeah. Losing their wealth, losing their fame, losing their privileges that they've apparently would unjustly. My real problem with this, and maybe we'll talk more about the Epstein thing a little bit later, but they know, I'm trying to get this phrase, I recall that there was more than a billion dollars in shady financial transactions going through Chase Manhattan, JP Morgan Chase. This is a number of years ago, right? It was all connected with all the human trafficking and all the other dirtbagginess that Jeffrey Epstein was doing.

Now, these were not anonymous transactions. And so when the Trump administration folks come out and say, well, there's no clients, well we have victims and we have financial transactions connected with clients. You may not have a list of that on your desk, but JPMorgan Chase fell on its sword about this a number of years ago and paid off a number of victims. So they know where the money was moving. You're trying to tell me what? It's just all gone? Nothing? Yeah. I just don't think that Trump is doing it because he's afraid of it. I think he's trying to use it, part of

the art of the deal thing. That's wrong. I don't think that's right. But yeah, we have to get to the bottom of this because right now the Trump administration looks like complete shams by going back on their word. Bongino and Patel and Bondi, they all have egg on their face and nobody's going to trust them. Maybe they were premature in saying what they had. But when Bond Bonnie specifically said, I've got it, I've got those files on my desk and we need to redact them, remember they were doing all of this?

Oh yeah. That's hard to walk back, isn't it? When Epstein was first charged in Florida, the DA said, we got to let him go because he's being protected by the intelligence groups. Yeah, that was Acosta, Alexandra Acosta, that was said. I was told that he was intelligence and intelligence is not private intelligence. Intelligence is either CIA, Mossad, combination of the two probably, you know, would be most likely given that, you know, Epstein's connections.

But you know, I guess nothing to see move along. Right, Steve? Exactly. Yeah. Appreciate the call. We'll pick that up more a little bit later. Okay. We'll set that aside at the moment.

Coming up here, an interesting story here, and it's not the most important one, but I find it interesting. Teacher loses a lawsuit saying that all the kids had to call he, she by her preferred pronouns. We'll talk with people and oh boy, the lights just bumped again. Hopefully we're all right. All right. But anyway, this is the Bill Meyers Show. Hi, this is Dr. Emily Sander with the Well Integrative Wellness Center. You deserve a healthcare experience that is personal, proactive, and rooted in real healing.

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More at StephenWestfallRoofingInc.com. License number CCB 250730. You're hearing the Bill Meyers show on 1063 KMED. Daniel J. Schmidt is the Associate Vice President of Legal Affairs at Liberty Council, LC.ORG. Interesting case that you're covering this morning, Daniel. Welcome to the show. Good to have you on, sir. Thank you for having me. Tell us a little bit about this 11th Circuit Court of Appeals teacher pronoun thing because we've been looking at all sorts of cases involving the woke agenda and and area teachers out here on the west coast. What happened over in the 11th circuit the other day? Interesting ruling.

It is and you certainly have your hands full on the west coast with this type of issue, but we have it over here on the east coast too. What happened in Florida was we passed a rather common sense statute, in my opinion, that prohibited teachers from identifying themselves to their students and providing their students pronouns that don't match their biological sex. So a man who claims to be a woman can't, under Florida law, tell his students he would like to be called she and her and miss

because the government says you're on our payroll when you're teaching you're doing it on our dime and we have the ability to control what you say. You're not permitted to do that. It's confusing to the children. There's a whole host of reasons why that's a common sense stanchion. The teacher sued, saying that was a violation of his free speech rights. The district court said, yeah, that's right, because she has the right or he has the right to identify that way and speak as he wants to. The 11th Circuit said, no, that's not correct. When you're a teacher, discharging your duties as a teacher and teaching the curriculum

and subjects that we pay you to teach, that's our speech, not yours. We can tell you what to do without First Amendment violation. I think that's the correct ruling. What happens with this ruling? Is it something which stands or does it mean it gets kicked back down to the court to rework this? What is the process as this goes through the legal gullet, so to speak? Well, there's a couple of things that could happen because it was a preliminary injunction. That generally just means, well, what the district court said is

I'm going to prohibit the school district from enforcing the policy while the litigation proceeds. OK, that was that was appealed in the 11th Circuit said, no, you will not enjoin the statute while the litigation proceeds. So my guess is it will go back down. The one other option is if they try to take an appeal to the Supreme Court. I don't imagine that that will happen here, but it's possible. Okay. There was another side of this that I thought was frankly, this is just my opinion, I'm not an attorney, but you know, I've read it it off and talked to a lot. I kind of wonder about this one. The the court ruled that

the Florida schoolteacher, while on the clock, can only, has the speech rights that the state of Florida more or less says, right? That's kind of the the gist. Did I understand that correctly? That's what it meant? You got it. Okay. That's correct. What about another way of looking at this free speech? It's kind of the gist. Did I understand that correctly? That's what it meant overall? That's correct, yeah. What about another way of looking at this free speech? It's kind of like, all right, the teacher can say whatever he, she, they, whatever, whatever delusion they're wishing to go on. To me, what I was looking at is that this whole idea of the preferred pronouns is a compelled speech of other people.

What do you think about that? In which you're forcing other people to, you are compelled to speak according to what they want according to their delusion. In other words, having to buy a ticket to their crazy three ring circus inside their head. It's true and it's actually this issue has come up in a host of other areas. There was a case in Virginia and there was a case at a different Court of Appeals where the statute was the opposite and they were attempting to force teachers to call students and other employees by their chosen promise.

And the teacher said, I can't do that in good conscience because for one, you're telling this kid that he can live a lie and I have to accept it or the other two clear studies. Delusions, as you call them, that's as good a word as any. And the teacher said, I cannot do that in good conscience. And he wants to say, that is you, as the school district, you are attempting to compel me to speak a message I don't agree with and you can't do that. Here you had the opposite, but it's a good point, particularly for the students. So say you're a student in this delusional teacher's

classroom, is it not compelling you to speak think you're gonna be under coercion really? Yes, you want to get a good grade Well, I'm not calling you missus because you're a man What you're gonna fail? Of course and it creates all kind of problems, which is why Florida statutes common sense Why why the left circuit upheld? Yeah intense why would they let the circuit upheld? Yeah, so are we looking then at the chipping away of the woke delusion or is it only in certain states? Because out here on the West Coast, I can't tell you how many times I'm getting that preferred pronouns on the emails

and I always want to just shake my head every time I get them. It's like, really? You know, you're going down there. I'm getting this from state people all the time. Or do we still have a lot going on? Well, the signs are positive. So, you know, I'll put a caveat on that to say that I forget to coin the term, but there's somebody who calls it the woke mind virus. I'm not so sure that somebody who has become as delusional to think that they can be a man and claim to be a woman, that we can fix that at a personal level, but from the government level and from what we're going to compel others to do, I think the signs are good. So here you have the case in the 11th Circuit that said no, Florida has the right to pass a statute that prohibits teachers from mandating their students call

them by their dilution. This term at the Supreme Court, we had scrimmety that said, no, states have a compelling interest and there's no constitutional violation in prohibiting this transgender surgery nonsense for minors who can't consent. And then out of your coast over there, and I think it was Washington, no, Idaho, they passed a common sense thing that said, we don't want men and women's sports. Title IX means it's for women. The Supreme Court is taking that case up next term.

And so you're having, I think it's one of those radical ideologues pushed it so far that people have said, no, this is delusional and we're not going to alter society to meet your delusion and the signs are positive in that direction. My concern, and by the way, I'm speaking with Daniel J. Schmidt. He's Associate Vice President of Legal Affairs at Liberty Council, LC.org. You fight these kind of cases all the time, and we really appreciate what you're doing. In fact, wasn't the Coach Kennedy case brought up in this particular ruling, too?

It was, and there's a difference there. Now, I know your audience will probably be familiar with Coach Kennedy's case, where he was fired for going to the 50-yard line after a game and praying was fired for going to the 50-yard line after a game and praying privately, not out loud, and not compelling anyone to come with him. That case hinged on the question of whether his speech was private or government. And because he was doing it on his own time, after the game it concluded his duties and obligations and basically his time on the payroll had concluded and he went down there and he knelt on the 50 yard like that's his feet. Just to pose that with this, where you have a deranged teacher in the classroom, during classroom instructional time, mandating that when a student raises his hand to ask a question

about math, he has to call her missus. Those are vastly different scenarios and the First Amendment applies differently in each of them, which is why the different results, and also why it's not inconsistent for me to say, Coach Kennedy, his speech is protected and the radical idea of transgender teachers is not. Now, I forget who came up with that quote, but it's a pretty famous one that those who can force you to believe absurdities, I'm paraphrasing a bit here, can encourage you to or have you commit atrocities.

Are you familiar with that quote or do you not? I am, but I don't, I can't remember who said it. It was somebody far smarter than me, I know that. Yeah, and so I'm glad to see this. My concern though about this, Daniel, is that yeah, there may be some pushback here, but the one thing, if there's one thing I've noticed from radical ideologues in our culture, is that it's always, okay, maybe two steps forward and one step back, but it never snaps back to the totally common sense where it was before. Do you agree with me on that or not? I think that's accurate, yes.

Which is why push, push, push, push, push, and they'll continue to push about this. In my opinion, I don't know how you get the culture to go back and snap back to pre insanity, pre delusional kind of status. Yeah, I wish there was a better answer to that. I mean I think the chipping away is important. There's an old expression in the law that said pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered. When you get greedy, bad things happen. Essentially, is the gist of that analogy. Here, I think that we went so... I mean, dating back all the way to 2015 when the country was having a significant debate

on whether the state could prohibit two individuals of the same sex from marrying. I think there was a significant portion of the people who said, I don't really care about that. It's kind of your business, whatever. And then fast forward 10 years and look what it began. Oh, yeah. You have people saying, well, now we know, I can do this to your child. Oh yeah. Well for the longest time we were told, well you know all you people that were worried about slippery slope, you're just full of nonsense, right? How many times you heard that?

Yeah, but look where we got in 10 years. Now we have social workers in schools on the left coast where you are and elsewhere saying, oh no, we will recognize your minor child, your eight, nine, ten year old, as a girl when they're a boy, and we will tell them that they can be a girl all the way. We will poison their mind while they're with us for the day, and we won't even tell you about it. You know, the other thing about this, Daniel, is when you have the people that use the so-called them and they pronouns, I don't know if you've ever come across too many of those, but them and they, you know, we

used to call those multiple personality crazies, didn't we? Well, I think they are because it's plural. Yeah. If there's more of one of you in there, okay, I want to talk to all of you right now. Listen up, okay? Either that or...and here's the thing that always cracks me up in the school content. I don't want a teacher...now, I don't want a transgender teacher anyway, but that's a whole different debate. But I don't want someone teaching my child the English language or any child from that center that has no grasp of it to understand that that pronoun doesn't apply to a single individual. You're teaching a ton. Oh, you this plural. Plural is okay. We used to there's an entire body of English thought and teaching about subject verb agreement. It's pretty

important. But we want the the numbers to match on both sides. If you're one individual, you can't be there. That doesn't work unless, as you say, you're multiple personalities. And then we have other problems that we should probably deal with and why you shouldn't be in front of the classroom. And should be acknowledged, all right. Daniel, I appreciate your take on this and thanks for sharing this news about the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling that a public school teacher not entitled to an injunction against that Florida law. What else are you working on over at Liberty Council here? Anything we should be keeping up on

here? Are there some other stories that are in play at the moment? Well, there's some significant cases that we just concluded at the Supreme Court, as you know the term ended, and we will ramp back up. We're getting ready to file a petition for review at the Supreme Court in Kim Davis's case, which if you'll recall, was the county clerk who was gone in jail for exercising her religious beliefs. Oh, did the court take the case? The grantor writ? We have not filed it yet. It's due at the end of the month. We're working on it now. That will be filed towards the end. We just finished at the appeals court. I mean,

it's been a decade worth of litigation that's coming to its ultimate head. Okay. Now, I hope I'm pronouncing this right. Are you going for the writ of certiorari? Is that what you're... That's correct. Yes, you did say it correctly. So, that will be filed this week, and that's one to follow because there's some significant issues that will be presented to the court there. We have another case still on behalf of New York healthcare workers who were fired for refusing the COVID shot that's pending at the Supreme Court right now. And a host of others that are, we're working on. Your audience can find out all about them if they go to LC.org

have pages that outline what we're doing, how you can support us, follow the news on all our cases we have all across the country. Daniel J. Schmid once again, Associate Vice President of Legal Affairs at Liberty Council LC.org. He'll put all your information up and thanks for the good talk. Really appreciate that. Good news. Thank you. Thank you for having me. All right. 654. This is KMED 993KBXG. You're hanging up with the Bill Meyers Show. Glad you were here. The phones are ringing at Fontana Roofing as word gets out about their

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I'm not grumpy Bill some people were saying Bill you know with it because of all the power being out and all the other stuff Things like it you're gonna be grumpy Bill today. No. I'm not grumpy bill just a little sleepy I don't have three, four hours of sleep. By the time the power came back on and things started calming down a little bit. And I was, you know, having to turn off the freezer alarm that was going off because it had gone up a few degrees, you know, all those kinds of things.

You know, kind of keeping. It's fascinating though, isn't it? Isn't it? Isn't it fascinating how quiet your house is when the power goes off? How absolutely it's that kind of stillness that we almost never experience most of our lives unless we go out camping and turn everything off and don't connect to Elon Musk's Star Link when you're out camping. Just saying, unplug, right?

Not-so-crazy Gene is here. Hello Gene, how are you this morning? What's on your mind? It's a beautiful day today and... It is a gorgeous morning. You're doing alright too? Yeah, doing okay, doing okay. Just still have a radio station off this morning and that's because of the power problems out there in West Medford going out into the Applegate and yeah I haven't received the water pump back from the water pump rebuilder yet on the generator otherwise it would have stayed on I guess but anyway that's my problem though not yours. You'll work through it because you're very intelligent man you are. Well at least I can fake it I'll do a pretty good job, okay? So what's going on in your world, huh? Well, I just heard something else from Edward Casey that said that during this time that there would be a lot of young souls show up,

and there would be mass confusion in society, because the young souls, first time they've been incarnated in a human body, they wouldn't know really which way to go, up or down or left or right, and they'd get very confused and they would confuse the rest of the world. So this is then, you're taking this from Edgar Cayce's writings, The Sleeping Prophet. I remember reading some of his books back in the 70s when I was a young man. Yeah. And they were quite interesting and gosh he he did a lot of readings for a number of years. I guess they were all written down or many of them were written down I guess. Yeah he had a secretary like and he would record what he said and what the how the response

was from the customer but yeah he was asleep during the whole thing and then he woke up and found out later what exactly it had transpired. Now wasn't he I'm so sorry I'm your I hadn't thought about Edgar Casey in years I haven't read him in years there wasn't he like a son of a minister or was he a minister if I recall? Can you... He dabbled in it a little bit, but he's kind of a jack-of-all-trades. He's a very intelligent man. He's not just his psychic abilities.

So in your then opinion, this is just your opinion, non-crazy gene, that some of the challenges we're facing right now are because of young, inexperienced souls? Yes, yes. That's what he says. It would be confusing if you've come to a place, all of a sudden you are born in a body which you'd never had before, and you have to figure out, am I a boy or a girl? It didn't matter on the other side. Well, it doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter. Yeah, so the soul itself could be genderless as it were, and then takes on the trapping of earthly flesh. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it would be very confusing. You were just out in infinite space flying around at the speed of thought in a ghost-like body and all of a sudden you were shoved into one of these physical flesh-y things down here and now what do I do? And then as you age you're thinking, boy that physical body, boy my back hurts oh now my elbow hurts oh now my feet hurt now like oh yeah all right there's no pain on the other side now that's an interesting theory about the weirdness of life on planet Earth today

here Jean but I I appreciate you calling all right thank you very much and stay crazy you're not so crazy oh I'll work on it every day. Good, good. This is KMED and KMED HD1 Eagle Point Medford, KPXG Grants Pass, town hall news will be coming up here in just a moment. And coming up, this guest I have coming up should almost be a conspiracy theory Thursday, yes, but it's Paul List and he's the author of Mount Doom. Mount Doom. We're doomed. Doomed, I tell you.

But he's a scholar, philosopher, and he is not real happy about this push on artificial intelligence. Okay, so we'll have that coming up. We'll talk with him for a few minutes. Mr. Outdoors is here. We'll be getting you the latest on what's happening with the storms and also the fires that have started in the wake of that.