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Episode Date: July 8, 2026

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This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Let's continue this weekend. Canada, the update coming up here in just a minute. Then we're going to get right back to your calls. A couple of questions I had for you. I wanted to talk a little bit about this Graham Platner situation.

Democrats, of course, are in the process of twisting the knife and saying, you know, we've never really wanted you here. And so the party of democracy is not really looking to be democratic, but you know how this goes. It's kind of like Bernie running for president, part two. But yeah, I know it's a more serious thing. But a question that's been on my mind is, should we be believing people? And I'm not defending Graham Platner. I'm just talking about this whole concept that someone claims I was raped five years ago,

or I was raped 10 years ago, or I was raped 20 years ago, or I was raped 20 years ago, or either. Gene Carroll. I was raped 40 years ago. If it wasn't good enough to actually call somebody out and charge someone for rape at that time, should you be able to call it out now? It's just one question I want to toss out there. I'm not comfortable with this trend. And believe me, I'm not a fan of Graham Platner. But it's the same playbook. This is the one thing you can do, especially with a guy. You get him on something like this. He raped me. Okay. Well, you didn't think it was a rape at the time. I'm just engaging on what happens in real-life interaction. I'd be curious to hear what women think about this, even though Graham Platner is a disgusting toad. Okay, no doubt about that. But the way I'm looking at it, if you weren't willing to call the police

and say that somebody raped you back then, that's about it. That's my opinion. What are you thinking about it? Another question I wanted to run by you here. Citizen Vigilante, have you seen the movie? It's been making a lot of news and a lot of hype around this. And I watched it over the weekend, and I may have a different opinion about it than maybe you do. I'm starting to feel like this may be more controlled opposition.

I know the John Birch Society's New America is going, well, you know, the globalist really frightened about this because people are so enamored with the vigilante going out there and taking out the trash, as it were. But anyway, I'll have a little talk about that. Maybe if you saw it, you can give me your thoughts on it too, all coming up. 7705-633, and then naturally anything which is on your mind, too, as we go into some open phone time. This hour of the Bill Meyer show is sponsored by Glacier Heating and Air, making sense of the heating and air business. Man, I love this place. Now more with Bill Meyer.

What a delight having you here, 770K, MED. A couple of questions in play, but I'll take anything that's on your mind today on Wheels Up Wednesday. The Grand Platner situation. Definitely a toad, problematic guy, you know, the Nazi tattoo Democrat, you know, back east in Maine, in the Maine senatorial election. And maybe not from a lot longer. They're twisting the knife. And we had a girlfriend from five years ago saying he raped me. And I am not defending rapists when I say this, but I got to tell you, it concerns me that we continue to have a rising tide, especially in the political world, though, that he raped me years after the event. and if my opinion would be that in a sane world,

if you weren't willing to say anything about it at the time, what changed? Was it just because he's running for Senate? It's okay to have the rapist on the street? I don't quite get that, all right? Helping understand, I would especially like to hear from the female persuasion on this particular issue. Another question, did you see citizen vigilante?

It's been online and making lots of noise. Big vigilante movie? It's kind of like Death Wish 2026 on steroids. I have mixed opinions of it, and I'll share mine, but I'd like to get your opinion first, and then I'll go down to where I'm coming on on this, okay? 770KMD, and it's a joyous day because we welcome Joy to the show. Hello, Joy, what's on your mind? Good morning.

Good morning. Morning. How you doing, Joy? How about you? I'm doing great. Wait, me, I'm supposed to have your song are, right? It's supposed to be. That's my song, yeah.

Yeah. Happy, happy, joy, joy, happy, joy. There we go. Although that's actually David's, you know, David, who is actually rather dower most of the time. But I'll use it for you, too, for real, okay? Okay, okay, I appreciate that. All right, good. What are you thinking?

What I'm thinking is that I'm sitting on grand jury right now, and I've been a paralegal throughout my 20s and 30s, and without evidence, you got nothing. So I'm thinking that as a female, if it happened to me, I would have gone immediately to the ed and said, give me the test, do, you know, and built that evidence chain. Without an evidence chain, then it's basically hearsay. It's my opinion. But yet hearsay seems to be all that matters in the culture realm. The accusation is the conviction, and that's a problem.

And I'm not saying that politicians and bad dudes aren't out there raping women. I'm not saying that, all right? but if you really thought you were raped, shouldn't you have said something then, you know, at that point? Well, I think so. Not ruminate about it for five years and then figure it out later. I say do some about it right then. My gosh, you know, I just thought I had a bad night with this guy a number of years ago, but no, now I think on second about, I think I think. Yeah. Okay.

I remember saying no. I said no. Yeah, exactly. I remember something, yeah. No, I think it's ridiculous. And I think it's a smear campaign. And, you know, it doesn't matter if the guy's a dirt bag or not. It's still, you know, regardless, give me some evidence.

Give me the evidence. Give me a blue dress. Give me something that says this is what happened. Joy, it's a very interesting take, especially coming out of a paralegal thought process. Okay. Thanks so much. All right. Be well.

Thank you. And have a joyous Wednesday. Let me go to Francine. Francine. Francine is filled with joy in loveliness too. Hello, Francine. Morning. Good morning, Bill.

So I kind of, there's, there are definitely two sides to this, the way this plays out or can be played out. And, of course, there's the, I'm going to smear you like, oh, he raped me, you know, whether he did or not, it's hard to say. But people use these things. This isn't, this is, at this point in time, that's an easy one to use to smear somebody because who can prove it was not true as well as proving it's true. You can also, can't prove it wasn't. That's true. You can't prove, you cannot prove the negative. You cannot prove innocence on that case, especially, you know, years later.

Now, on the other hand, especially a long time ago, it was really hard to get people to believe you. And if you didn't go, you know, get taken straight to the hospital where they checked you out and stuff like that, and that wasn't something that was easily known back in the day. I mean, I am a rape victim from 1968. You know what I did? I went home and took a bath because I felt so horrible, okay? I didn't, what was it going to do? Who was going to believe me?

Now, that's an interesting, that's another side of looking at this. And I understand why you end up hearing about, gosh, I think I was listening to Handel on the Law a couple of weekends ago and was talking about a girl who, well, a young woman who claimed that she had been raped by her father back in the day. And, you know, and maybe 40 years ago, yeah, they didn't give it much 40 or 50 years ago. Probably didn't give it much credence, did they? No, women had a really, really hard time because, you know, the society was different. It was no longer believe a woman, every woman. I mean, that hadn't come out yet, you know what I mean?

It was like, you know, oh, she asked for it. Oh, look at how she was dressed. Yeah. I mean, really, there was a lot of that, and that went on for a very long time. Yeah, she was wearing a tube top. You know, she's asking for it, right, back then. Well, yeah. In your hippie days.

It's not a cut or dry situation that, you know, whether you should have done this or you have done that. But knowing what we know right now, in today's culture, five years ago, somebody claimed to be a rape victim at that point, would they have believed her if she'd gone to the police? I think so if she'd done something, even if it's against somebody who's in highly positioned, you know, that has a lot of pull or influence and so forth. I think it was a better chance, yeah. And that's why what I'm saying is it seems like it's become a very convenient, oh, let's get this guy.

But maybe he did abuse her. You know, but we don't know. We don't know who's telling the truth. Like you say, he's a dirtbag. He could be lying like crazy, you know. But she could be exaggerating. I mean, it's just, the guy's a dirtbag, we should just run on that. We already know that.

Yeah, just run on that instead of like he raped me. Okay, got it. All right. I mean, I don't really know, Bill. Yeah. No, we don't. But, yeah, I was just concerned, though, that now it's like the, the believability has gone on completely the other side of the situation.

And I don't like that either, you know? No, it's a new magic bullet to get somebody. Yeah, yeah. He raped me years ago. All right. Thank you, Francine. Let me go to the next call here. It's wheels up and who's this.

Good morning. Welcome. Denise you are. Bill's on this. Brad. Good morning. Good morning, Brad. What do you think of?

Is anybody paying attention that our international relations right now are probably better than they've been in years. Does that matter to anybody that we're on such a good term from so many countries right now, Bill? Not really. I mean, you asked me. I mean, what is the good relation right now? It appears that right now we're in the process of not exactly divorcing NATO, but more or less saying who's going to pay for the Netflix.

Who's going to pay for the Netflix account in the split? You know? Well, but, you know, I mean, you bring up a good point, but, you know, the reality is, is because we're taking that stance, we're enjoying this amazing thing from these other countries called respect, which we did not have before. They're going, you know what, these guys are kind of stepping up to the plate and demanding some respect. So the other question I have for your extra large brain cells is this, is our candidate for Senate District 3, Denise Krause, does she like these things that Mom Donnie is saying?

Does she like these things that AOC is saying? Does she like these things that Graham Platner is saying, do the people that live in Senate District 3 here in Oregon, you know, do they need to whether our candidate for state Senate is as far left as some of these other candidates that, you know, if you saw that the parade in Ashland on 4th of July, awful lot of what looked like pretty hard left representation there, Bill. What do you think?

Well, I didn't see the parade because I stopped going to the Ashland Fourth of July parade a long time ago. Used to actually be in it years back. But normally it's been a hotbed for communism for a long, long time. What has changed here, Brad? Help me. I don't think the people in Senate District 3 are as far left as a lot of the leftism that we're seeing on the NACD. You know, this DSA thing. That may be so.

That may not matter, though. And this is one thing that I think I'm just going, I'm saying this affectionately because I love Brad Hicks. But, you know, if you want to go out and actually campaign in Senate District 3, I don't think doing, you know, whiskey and cigar events is necessarily going to help you right now. Okay? And I say that affectionately as a big fan of Brad Hicks. I don't think you could just run this as the standard Republican approach. Okay?

Okay. If you are going to dislodge the communists of which there are many in Senate District 3, okay? There's a lot of conservative Democrats in Senate District 3, you know, back in 2000. That may be true, but most of them are not, okay? Let's be honest, this is real talk here. This is real Bill and Brad talking about Senate District 3. All right. God love you, Brad. 770KMED. Hi, KMEDE. Good morning.

Who's this? This is my Dave. Yeah, Dave. What's up? Well, for Prattner is a distraction, so I'm not going to comment on him. I'm going to... No, but I was just talking... I'm not even talking about Prattner, though.

It is... Or Plattner. It's the same issue of, you know, the accusation years after the event with no ability to... Well, yeah. ...prove it. So that's a complicated matter. I want to talk about Senator McConnell, proof of life. Is he alive or is he dead?

I think he's already weekend at Bernie's material, and this is just my opinion. There are credible reports that are saying he possibly is already brain dead. He was taken to the hospital unconscious. I've heard that too. I think we should demand proof of life because then they could do a special election. And by the way. Well, Elaine Chow's, Elaine Chow, her husband, or his husband, rather, or his wife, rather, pardon me, I'll get it right here. His wife is actually over in China right now.

And I would think, gosh, you know. No, I know that. Your lovely husband is in the hospital, supposedly, and you're over just hanging out with relatives in China. Man, what's going on here? And I'm wondering if it's because they don't want her answering any questions. Oh, that's probably it, too. But, you know, if he's dead, then there's no, they keep saying that if they don't do it by August 3rd, if he likes to lend, the office would just be vacated, and it wouldn't, it's too close to election. Well, there's the other part, though, that's, there are other people that are saying that Thomas Massey could actually throw his hat in the ring.

You know Thomas Massey, the Republican congressman who was ousted in the Trump challenge in the primary this year? Yeah. Yeah. He's from Kentucky. Yeah. Wouldn't that be interesting? Think about that, Dave. Get back to me.

All right. KMED, let me go back to the phones here. Hi, KMED. This is Bill. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hey.

Good morning, Bill. This is Brad. Brad. What are you thinking? Well, you know, Bill, I've got to agree with you. You know, a lesbian deal. You know, the one lady was raped. Didn't say anything for all these years. And then it's back up the bus and open the door. And then all these women were raped. And not one of them said a word during the whole time. It's like, let's see the dollars come rolling in. A long time ago, you used to be innocent until proven guilty. Now you're guilty to you prove yourself innocent. Yeah, the accusation is the conviction. And that's not a good development in my view for the Republic. Just saying. Now, like Francine was saying, though, you go back 40 years or 50 years, and it was a different culture and considerably more difficult to take down a powerful man. Would you agree on that with her?

The women knew that you had to run to the hospital, get the test taken to prove, and I agree with that. But now so many things have changed, like I said, going back to the bill. That wasn't 50 years ago, and it just for all of the women, supposedly, that he braided to, and then it was just, open up the doors and floodgates and all these women break by them. All right. Hey, I appreciate your opinion on that. And we'll take one more. Hi, KMEDD.

Good morning. Good morning. It's Vicki from the Applegate. Fickey, take it away. Well, I totally agree with joy. Back in the day, women felt ashamed. Women questioned whether because of maybe the way they were acting or the way they dressed.

they were asking for it. Unless you come right out and say, I want sex, I don't think you're asking for it. I think they should probably think about what they're wearing and the way they're acting. But, you know, that doesn't give anyone the right to put their hands on you or do things to you that you do not want. Okay. Now, maybe what we need to do here. Go, Bill. Now, Vicki, let me run this by you, okay?

you know, since you want to make sure that nothing wrong happens. So in today's world, should we have like maybe a capture code? You know those capture codes online in which you have to pick all the, you know, the right pictures or something before you can go onto a website? Are you familiar with those? Have you ever seen that? Bill, I don't do the Internet. Oh, I can't even tell you.

See, that's just it. The Internet. Okay, that is, okay, see, that's just it. You could have, you know, you can have, I could think of like, you know, sex pervert, CAPTCHAs or something like that. Like, you cannot proceed and have sex until you, you know, go through this picture, and there's like six different pictures of Bill Clinton, and then you have to say, okay, you know, pick the pervert, you know, and pick all the pictures that say pervert.

Well, and the thing is, is five years ago, it's not like back in the 60s, 70s, even the 80s or 90s. So it's a different, so it is a different, a very different climate now. I agree. Yeah. And if they, you know, if somebody violates them, they're not waiting five, ten, 16 years to come forward. I think this is a, I don't know if she was raped or not. If she was, I am so sorry for that. That's a horrible, horrible thing to live with after the fact. But it's not like it was back then. You women have, well, what? What really cracks me up is the Democrats are all four women coming forward to say that they got raped or mis-vilated until it's not profitable or convenient or going to get them further in their quest for power. When somebody comes out against one of them, all of a sudden it's like, no, don't believe her.

She's just, you know, has different motives. Oh, she's crazy. Yeah. And I don't agree with that at all. Yeah, the nuts and sluts if it goes against DNC's quest for power. Point well taken. Exactly. I think until it's proven that she wasn't right, and five years ago, that's hard to prove.

All right. Thank you for the call. Appreciate that, Vicki. 736 at KMED. Fontana Roofing is celebrating their 30th anniversary in Southern Oregon and the universe. Correct the shifting soil problem. Visit millet commission.com. It can be a real challenge.

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Okay, it's great to have you here. There's some issues going on in Medford Heights, in the Medford Heights community. This is like you go on East Main, start heading up the road a little bit. And this is before you get to like donut country and all the rest of it. But it's kind of in that general vicinity, right? Right. You go up East Maine and right before the S curve, right before Keenway. Okay.

And so you turn right. So there are people that are wanting to build not just apartments, but pretty darn big apartment towers on a small section of land. And was this owned by the Lossman family or is it owned by CoGAP now? Why should give me just a brief story here of what happened if you don't mind? Right. It was owned by the Lossman family. family. And when Jerry and Donas passed away, it was actually two tax lots, their house, and a small little park across the alley that we drive on.

Jerry went ahead and developed into a park with a shuffleboard court and a picnic table, etc. for Donis. And although it was fenced in, the whole neighborhood enjoyed it. Okay. And it was never really what you would call an official park per se, like considered a Metford Parkland, right? No, not at all. All right. And so, of course, Jerry's been gone for a while, and CoGAP owns this property at this point? Jerry's family divided it up.

And what happened is the house, which is a Frank Clark house, was sold. And the park went to Christian Estelle. Jerry's grandson. Okay. And he is now the president of COGAP. And of course, CoGAP, just most interestingly, and I was wondering if it had anything to do with this, but a few months ago, CoGAP ended up winning this Supreme Court case. Correct. It was decided, or maybe a court of appeals.

And the city of Medford ends up, you know, owing them some money. I don't know what the resolution has been of this. But I guess one of the concerns you were raising with me is that you're thinking that they're taking a very lenient approach, I guess, to approving anything COGAP is doing right now, like perhaps this development here over in Medford Heights. Is that the overall take on it? Right. The development is on less than a half an acre. and about two years ago, year and a half ago, they applied for a zone change to go from what normally would be, say, two nice houses or four townhouses or condos.

And they jumped it up to two zones up, which would mean that on an acre they could build up to 30 units. But this is under a half an acre. So they can build up to 15. So a half an acre and COGAP then comes back and says, well, listen, we're only building 12. Right, right. And, yeah, we're going to cut the trees down. By the way, I'm just going to hold up a copy of what the apartments look like according to the proposed plan here.

And there would be a bunch of trees that would be cut down. And, yeah, I guess the neighborhood will get naturally kind of upset about this because it's a pretty bucolic neighborhood right now. Would that be a way of describing it? Right. The house I'm in is from 1911, and my house in the former Lawsman house were built by doctors when the Sacred Heart, Sisters of Sacred Heart, raised money with the community and built Sacred Heart Hospital, which was next door. And so that was a history back in 1911, and the front of the houses faced west, and you would access them off Ashland Avenue and go on kind of a little dirt road, and then you'd walk up about five. flights of stairs to the front doors. Boy, that's commitment, man. Well, you got your steps in those days, huh?

Well, and the Model T, et cetera, was the car. But over the years, the house that I'm in was Dr. Clancy and the house next door, Dr. Conway. And what they did is they would walk to the hospital. But they wouldn't go down all the stairs and come back up. There was a small alley. And so the alley in some places is basically, 14 feet and other places. Pretty narrow. Pretty narrow road. So from what I understand, from what you told me, is that

the city of Medford is treating the alley is that this is going to be the access for these new apartments here too. Yes. So an alley. All right. What about parking? How is that supposed to look? Parkings. Well, if somebody builds in the city, I guess the code is if it's under 750 square feet, you don't have to put in parking. Oh, okay. So we have 12 units coming in, 750 square feet, right? Well, what the developer has decided to do, COGAP is put in nine parking spots, but there will be 12 units,

and they're right off the alley, and out of those one will be handicapped. But this place has no elevator, and you enter on the second floor, and then you walk up or down to your unit. That's an interesting design now that I think about it, you know, kind of split the difference when you either walk down or up,

but still, yeah, no elevator. I guess so what are so what's the neighborhood what are you folks you know kind of hoping to accomplish here what is the ask right now because if you're going to file an appeal on this one that the city appears to be ready to approve this would that be fair to say they have approved it they have approved it all right and so you're thinking about appealing but you would have to appeal by next Monday yes we have to have paperwork in before the 14th so that would be on 13th Monday On what grounds would you like to appeal this system? Kind of like what is you're asking?

Because you were telling me, giving me all the whole story, and I don't have time to do every single story, but what are the main bones of contention you're having with Medford City planning in this particular case? Besides the fact that they're probably looking to what the neighbors would think of is ruin the neighborhood. Right. And two of the commissioners at the last hearing on June 26th,

admittedly, and you can look it up online and see their comments and watch it, that if they lived in this neighborhood, they wouldn't want it. And one of the commissioners, when the vote for approval came up, he said, I can't support this.

This has been a wrong development from the get-go. And in what happened then was they flipped up a slide on the overhead of their duties on this committee. And if criteria is met, they have to vote, yes, basically.

and he said morally, I can't do this. It isn't right. Oh, but it may be legal. Is that kind of where they were coming from? Well, I think there's some wiggle room on some of this. And all along, the commissioners have said they don't have any discretionary anything on this. Well, you know, I'm a big believer in property rights, but I believe in, you know, co-cast property rights, but I also believe in surrounding property rights. It's kind of a shared responsibility that we have here. I am surprised that the city didn't seem to look at at bumping up the the zoning for this particular property two notches, not just taking it up,

you know, one which I think would be more of a traditional, but I've not been involved in land lawsuits. Maybe I don't understand that. Right, right. And it was mentioned at the first hearing 18 months ago that maybe they should just go up one level in development, not two. And what would that what could they have built what could code got put in there if they did it they would be able to put in about half this size okay or six to nine units yeah six to nine units it would seem to be a little more congruent with what's going on in the neighborhood or less disruptive I would think more than anything else like so I understand where the neighborhood's coming from but naturally you know a property owner is going to try to get as much out of it as they can you know that's just

you know human nature in this particular issue but so is the suspicion, like I mentioned, that Metford is a little gun-shy of getting too much in the way of COGAP? I mean, given this. I think so. We, 18 months ago, many of us called around the valley for an attorney before the zone change, and everyone we called said, we can't represent you because we've dealt with COGAP on some other issue. It'd be like trying to take on Harry and David, Lithia. Right. Right. Exactly. You know, that sort of thing. Well, what are you hoping to get or what are you going to ask for the city planning department within this deal? You have to get someone to represent you by Monday.

Right. Right. And so I'm asking for anybody who knows or an attorney that might do this, I've called this far away as banned in Roseburg, grants pass all around. And the filing fee to file an appeal is $4,050. and we're willing to raise that and pay it. But without legal representation, when you turn in your appeal, you just can't say on Monday, I want to appeal this, here's the money. You have to have everything written up in code exactly, no information, new information introduced,

but you have to have the justification of the codes. So I feel really at a loss here. Is there a way to request a continuance on this? I do not know. We have asked that, but it doesn't seem like there's any wiggle room. Huh. And what the planning director did, this was what's called a type 2 development, and several months back, they changed it to a 3, which means instead of the appeal initially going to Lubah, jumping to the land use in Salem, it will go to. to the city council here in Medford. And at our vote on the 26th, the one commissioner that

said he couldn't really approve this to go forward, when they flipped the side up with the screen up with what his duties were, he said, I am very well aware of my duties. It was almost like a bullying technique. And he- Like approve it or else? And he said, if you would like me to step down as a commissioner, I'm willing to do that. Who was that, do you know? That was Halwing. Hellwing, okay. And, you know, that's a pretty strong statement to say, if you're going to bully me and not respect my opinion and not, I'm going to step down.

I think what is really serious is the intimation that the city is taking a dive in some respects. That's the impression that I'm getting from you. And now this is just my talking with you. That's the intimation. and that would be serious and it's not that I have anything against co-gap I don't I think they won their case against the city fair and square on that that Stuart Meadows region property thing correct but this is not the same this is not the same sort of sort of situation is there can so it has already technically been approved so unless you have an attorney that is going to get all this paperwork dot the I cross the Ties, nothing else going to be appealed by Monday. Right. Correct. Boy, you've got a tall lift here.

They give you 14 days from the hearing, apparently, and of course, Fourth of July in their accounts, etc. Yeah. So we all received a letter on Monday that information has to be in prior to the 14. Yeah. I'm speaking with Sue Bridges, Sue Riches rather, pardon me, not Bridges. I was talking with a Bridgers thing yesterday, kind of conflicting to in my mind. My feeble mind, yeah. But, so this is really interesting here.

So you're looking for an attorney. What about the mountaintop people, you know, the people that were... I'm going to call that attorney today. I just got the name yesterday. It's an attorney up in Portland. Okay. All right. And I'll tell you what we'll do is maybe if there's a...

There were city counselors on this planning commission, right? No, there was assistant attorney for... the city of Medford, and then there were four commissioners on this is the architectural the SPAC committee. Is it possible or legal to even ask the city council to weigh in and just say, hey, can we delay this another week or so just to give potential, you know, an attorney? It's a complex case. It deserves to be heard, I would think, and that, you know, possibility of delaying it,

would it, would a week help or would it take two weeks? I mean, what? I don't know. In terms of that, the system planning director has said that this property is an anomaly in Medford. There's nothing quite like it. It's a unicorn. You know, it really is. Right.

And she's saying if you had a duck pond, this would be the goose in the duck pond. Okay. And everybody kind of agrees like that. It's a very, very unique property. What my contention also is, is this has been labeled an alley since 1911. And it's one way. It's narrow. I was grateful this morning. It's rogue disposal day. They drive the wrong way on the alley. And I was grateful I didn't run into him this morning. But yet this is going to be the access for this unicorn property. Right. And the developer has mentioned several times. He thinks people will walk to work. And he's measured it. And we don't have any transportation other than Crater Lake in East Main. Yeah.

So they would have to walk off the hill. There are no sidewalks on this, and it's kind of a mess. Hey, if you have a question or comment for Sue, call me. We'll try to get you on here real quick here. 7705633 talking about this property in Metford Heights. Shopping for a new air conditioner? You're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. This is KMED and KMED HD-1 Eagle Point Metford, KBXG Grants Pass, translator K-294-A-S, K-2-94-A-S, K-2.

908F Rogue River. And Sue Rich is in studio with me and fighting a development in Medford Heights. This real unicorn property, it's a fascinating neighborhood. But I'm thinking that 12 apartment complexes in, is it two or three towers?

It's three towers. Three towers. Yeah, three towers in this half acre, in this half acre, a little park-like setting here right now. Let me go to the Anonymous. We have an anonymous city counselor from a different area. How are you doing this morning, Anonymous?

And you're weighing in on this? Go ahead. Yeah, Bill. Well, it's kind of a curious situation there. So in our city, the Planning Commission cannot change zoning. The only people can change the zoning area is City Council. Now, Planning Commission can recommend a change or recommend not a change, but cancel has the final say-so on that, not planning commission.

All right. Well, maybe it's different in Mephyr. I don't know. What do you say to that, Sue? Well, it was interesting because when the zone change came up, of course, we had many neighbors show up. And we talked about inadequate accessibility to this, et cetera. And we were told, basically, well, thank you for coming out today. We appreciate your opinions.

However, this is a zone change. not here to discuss these other issues. Hmm. Okay. You will have an opportunity when the pre-application goes in. But it would seem that if you're talking about a zoning change and then it would seem that access would be certainly germane to whether you approve a zoning change. Right. Would you not?

One of the things I had a one-on-one meeting with the assistant planning director and I said, you know, if Florence is a larger street, why aren't you having them go in? to build this and pull in and out on Florence, why are you using an alley that's been there since 1911? And she says, we don't tell developers where their access can be. Oh, okay. Let me go to, Logan, you're on with Sue Riches. Go ahead. Let's hear it. Hey, I just wanted to thank you, Sue, for taking due diligence and time to do this. I want to encourage you to all those neighbors you had show up. It's going to take all you guys to do this. So I brought this up, for, but I don't know how everybody, and this happens everywhere, but everyone knows that there's

corruption everywhere in this country, yet when it applies to their own city where they live or their own county, they think like, oh, no, we're good here. It's just everywhere else. Well, my concern about this, Logan, it is just pure conjecture on my part, all right, is that I think that the city of Mepford is being very careful and very accommodating of anything involving Kogab, given the recent appeals court or victory that they ended up experiencing, okay? And I don't know, maybe the two are connected. Let me go to David. Hello, David. Go ahead. What are you thinking? Good morning, Sue. I'm supporting you all the way. Thank you. My challenge, maybe you can address this, good lady, is if COGAP owns this, they have to pay the property tax and they're responsible with insurance.

why don't you ask them if you can purchase the property, relieve them of the burden, and your group, your neighborhood can own this, either donate it to the city as a park or you guys can pay the property tax, the insurance, and maintain it yourselves. What do you think about that idea? Well, what was interesting about that, as our hope after Donis and Jerry died, was that the grandson would maintain it. Kogap had always watered it, trimmed it, maintained it, and we were hoping he would do that and put a plaque down there honoring his grandfather. But instead, he listed the property for 300,000.

The people that bought the Lossmann House wanted to buy the property from him at 225, and he said no. So it's an expensive, valued property now. So then what he did within a year or two is he transferred it from himself to. an LLC under co-gap. Under co-gap, okay, which of course is a big deal, not just an individual. It's a big company here in Southern Oregon. All right, David, there you go, a little bit of that backstory. And let me take one more call.

You're with Sue Riches. Good morning. Who's this? Hello. Good morning. Hi. Yep. I'm here.

Go ahead. It's old Super Dave off in I own Idaho. Yeah, go ahead. Do you have something germane to this conversation, Dave? Go ahead. Yes, I do. The city of Grants Pass just turned down the subdivision because of fire regulations. The fire marshal said, we can't get vehicles in and out of there to turn around.

Therefore, we say no to it. So I would look at fire regulations. They're public, you can get them publicly online. And if something's goofy there, talk to the fire marshal, say, why did you approve this? And then talk to the state fire marshal. All right. very much, Superdey. What do you think about that? That's an interesting wrinkle there. Well, I appreciate

you saying that because I have a letter here February, 2003, from Chase Browning, who was the battalion chief, the fire marshal here in Medford. And it's addressed to the neighbors. There's about 10 of us on this narrow alley. And what he basically says in this, and he cites some

code, that we should not park on the alley. We should only park in our property lines, because by parking on alley, it's so narrow. If there were a fire up there, it could delay the response and responding because they would have to tow the cars. I turned in over 12 pictures of parked cars that you could barely get by on the alley over the last 18 months. These pictures have been taken. The fire chief, Marshall, has changed in Medford. And during one of the hearings, I said,

we have this letter that says it's unsafe, it can delay response time. I said the alley has not changed in the width. The name of the fire chief has, but the alley is still the same. And in order to get up to the alley, you'd have a hairpin turn. Huh. All right. So that seems to be, so the current fire chief is okay with it then? No.

No. What he intends to do, he's told us, is. on Florence Avenue, where the frontage really should be, is he needs some trees taken out because he needs to address a four-story building. He needs to put certain apparatus that needs to be secured on the ground. And he is concerned about covering the four stories. And we're saying back up on the alley, what about our homes? You may be able to hit the four, but what about us. Now, it does appear to me, in my opinion, that this is trying to take the, you know, the square peg and put it in a round hole, you know, on this, on this situation. I'm hoping that there is, I don't really have much of a suggestion as that, boy, try to get your neighbors together here quickly because it appears that the city really does want this or they are appearing that they're wanting to take a dive on this one. And I can understand, you know, legalese, if you've already lost, you know, lawsuits. you want to get involved in Code Gap again, you know, with another potential lawsuit.

I wish the best of luck on this. Do you have a number or something or some contact that I give here if there's an attorney that contacts the show and wishes to help you out on this land use issue? Yeah, they could call me on my cell phone. It's in area code 971, 3002625. 2625. And what you're really looking for right now, can we delay it for a week or two? Correct. All right. And I need an attorney.

Okay, very good. And an attorney would be needed to do that. Land use. And then we'll see where they go. Now, I'm not weighing in whether it, I mean, hey, it looks like an interesting development, but it also looks like an interesting property with an interesting set of problems, I think, is really what you're bringing up here, right, Sue? Correct. All right. Sue Riches from once again, this Medford Heights neighborhood with the little park-like setting and I want to put three towers on it. Thanks for giving us voice on this. I appreciate it. You're welcome anytime. Take care, Sue. All right. Thinking about repainting your home, call now.