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Episode Date: July 9, 2026

Open phones...Conspiracy Theor Thursday - Is the movie Citizen Vigilante controlled opp? Other topics. What about the wandering bear in our area? David Sisson, ED at WILDLIF IMAGES discusses this and whats up at the center!

This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. And by the way, hats off to Ashland they are talking about, and that's what Danny Jordan was letting me know this morning, that Ashland is considering a citizen initiative or a ballot measure that would require a vote of the people for all fee increases that aren't related to delivering of the utility.

So it's one thing if they increase your utility fee for water or sewer because the cost of water or sewer is going up, it's quite another thing to say that you're going to increase the price of water and sewer because the fire laddies or the police laddies or the parks department or anybody else needs more money. Got to live within means. And I know that the means are thin and the demands for salary increases and expenses are just soaring. So something's got to give.

And if the people are going to get control of their life here in Southern Oregon, city councils will have to be disciplined. It may not be pleasant, but it needs to be done. So I hope that happens. Good for you, Ashland. You don't understand how great it is to be able to say something like, I'm thrilled with a possibility of Ashland taking a vote on something. You know, anyway, we'll have that good conversation and more coming up.

It is conspiracy theory Thursday. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill. Hey, Lucretia. How you do? You know, it's not a conspiracy theory Thursday unless we have a call from from Lucretia at some point. What's on your mind today before news, huh? Go ahead. Well, I want to talk about adding a new fee, but I also want to win that what you're giving away. Oh, you want to win one of the Gordon Ramsey's Secret Service grills?

Sure. Okay, so do you sing Van Halen? I never, I never, I never, have picked you for a Van Halen girl. Not you are. How about if I really got you now, I don't know what I'm doing. You know, I'd still say you're better than David Lee Roth, okay? So, you know, so, Lucretia, I have to say arguably, you were better than that. Okay, try that.

Try that again. Go ahead. I just want to, I'll just want to compare it to his life. I can't do it again. Okay, one more time. One more time, darling. One more time. You got it in you.

The show must go on, okay? Oh, babe, I got you now. I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think you've even beat David Lee Roth this year. Yeah, I think he'd even beat David Lee Roth this year. All right, Lucretia, hang on.

Okay, but build new fees. I got a new fee for everyone. Okay. What's that? Okay, North American weather consultants. It probably costs $2 to $4 a month. We could get more snow, more rain. It turns out it costs a lot to build dams.

They're shutting them all down. And it turns out it's either the water company or an environmentalist that would block us hiring the weather consultants. This is a 70-year-old company that literally has done all the studies and everything else to determine that they're seeding just right. It turns out the silver iodide they spray is like a million times lighter than would cause even any damage to the fish, whereas the fires are incredible what they use. Oh, certainly the damage.

Now, I want to make sure. So you're thinking we should be then paying for a weather consultant here for Southern Oregon. What's the name of the company again? It's out. It's in the other room on my computer north. Western. I'll send you the email. And so.

Okay. What's the name again? I just want to make sure. North American weather consultants. North American weather consultants. So are they rainmakers? They go up there and they do that kind of stuff? Yeah.

And they could give us more snow so we could have that because we don't want this rain. We want snow so it's flowing all year because that's, I mean, if the environmentalists really care about the fish, you've got to keep the water going in the summer so it's not hot and they can't spawn and all that. Now, maybe that's an interesting question, though, if you could, if you could, charge everybody in southern Oregon a couple bucks a month for a weather consultant that could make it rain when we wanted to or snow in the wintertime. It might be worth it. It would lower our water bill.

I mean, because right now they're saying, oh, don't water. We've got to raise your fees that you won't use the water. We'll run out. So that's BS because we can just hire. We've got the mountains to create the snowpack, to create the long, you know, water coming down all. Well, you know, if it, do they do a snowback guarantee or, money-back guarantee if there's no snow? I don't know about that, but we've got the ocean right there.

They know they can spray carbon black to draw in more moisture or the coal fly ash. The other day, I think it was cherry that called up and said, gosh, it was just almost black, gray clouds. It was like they were, it turns out we know, and they won't publish this study. They actually took it out. What we know they're spraying is cold fly ash. Well, I'm not, I can't say that I know that they're doing that. but I'll just take your word for it because it is conspiracy theory Thursday. I got to go, enjoy your grill.

By the way, you have to burn charcoal in that, so it's going to be putting more carbon in the air. Okay? Oh, boy. All right. Thanks, Lucretia. Yeah, I think that's the first time. Lucretia's joined in a contest like that. But yeah, she can sing better than David Lee, that's for sure.

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Call Bill now at 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. Now more with Bill Meyer. Quarter after eight, can't find John O'Connor. John O'Connor, of course, is an attorney, so he may have gotten called away on a case. We'll try to get him back on. Part of the talk about the judges behaving badly. But we do have conspiracy theory Thursday call time available then, in that case, 770-5-633-770 KBD.

If you have a good conspiracy, let me know. Or if you want to maybe float a, maybe even a theory on that talk I had last hour with Richard Siritt. and he was talking about how he thought that he believes that there's strong evidence that British intelligence was involved in the rise of the Beatles and other government, well, other bands. In other words, it was about breaking America's spirit, breaking down connection to the family. And arguably, that is certainly what I think occurred. I mean, we went a long way from those clean cut guys in their suits. I want to hold your hand to, I want to, you know, let's do it in the road. Why don't we do it in the road?

There was definitely a progression, if you want to call it that. For the longest time, I used to think that, okay, well, just good songs, but stranger things have happened out there on this planet, wouldn't you say? We could talk about that if you want. It's 7705-633. There is another agenda in play right now that I wanted to get your opinion on and find out if I'm crazy or maybe on to something here. And there was a lot of hype that was going on over the last few days. In fact, it's still being hyped online. It's the new movie Citizen Vigilante.

And I don't know if you have watched this or not. It's available for rent on Amazon. I ended up paying a few bucks. And I watched it the other night. It was during Independence Day weekend. Citizen Vigilante essentially is like Death Wish, 26, on steroids. You know, you essentially have a guy who is taking out the trash, as it were, over in the United kingdom somewhere.

You have Muslims that are accused of, you know, raping the native population, that sort of thing. And they get handled quite lightly by the criminal justice system. And so what the citizen vigilante does and goes out, and then highly skilled has suppressors, firearms, things like that, and goes out there and interrogates and ends up, well, essentially ends up being a kill-em-all kind of movie. And I heard about this and people were saying, ah, you're restricted or banned in Germany, et cetera, et cetera. But I want to find out if you watched this movie,

if you've seen this movie and tell me what you think about it, because I'm going to give you my review, and my review is a little bit different. To me, it looked like something that could have been a lot better. And I don't know if it was just a matter that it was sort of thrown together quickly or maybe lower budget, I don't know. Certainly a lot of bloodshed and

naturally it's certainly satisfying to see people who were not convicted of their crimes or actually really dealt with or punished, seeing them dealt with in the vigilante mode, that kind of thing, killing them.

But what gave me pause, and you know I'm going back with what Richard Siritt was talking about in which we have government intelligence agencies wanting to manipulate the public's impression of an agenda or push it in a certain direction. The part that I think completely, and I hope that, you know, if you haven't watched it and you want to watch it, I'm sorry, it's going to be a spoiler alert here.

But I watched it, and I'm paying attention to this deeply. We have this guy that's going around killing criminals that ends up not being punished by the And so the system, of course, is going after the vigilante. And they're claiming that they're going to take him in and that you have to obey the law. We have to have a civil society, et cetera, et cetera, even though over in the U.K. And in Europe, I think it was set in some, they weren't very descriptive about where it was. But let's just say it could have been England, could have been France, could have been, you know, all sorts of things. The vigilante at one point when the police are trying to capture him,

he ends up killing them all. And I was thinking to myself, oh, wait a minute. You know, here it is. People are thinking we're going to have this citizen vigilante going out and killing the criminals. And in this one part, like I said, I'm sorry if you wanted to go by it, but I did warn you. It was going to be a spoiler alert. In the middle of the film, the citizen vigilante who was taking the trash out, when the police are trying to take him in, he kills dozens of police officers.

Huh. Wait a minute. The citizen vigilante who's going on and doing all sorts of nonsense talk, like he's going on and having his face shielded and his voice changed, I'm doing this for you, all this. And then in the middle of the movie, you know, it kills like 30, 40 cops by the time if you were to count it all up. that we're trying to take the citizen vigilante in.

And this was painted as a citizen vigilante movie. But if you're trying to actually promote someone or promote an agenda as saying that, you know, hey, sometimes people have to take matters in their own hands. And people have to, you know, be able to respond to this. And you can't just have this monopoly of force with the state. What better way to completely cut the citizen vigilante kind of movement, if there was going to be such a thing off at the knees, than to have them killing more cops in the movie,

then they actually kill the other dirtbags that were causing problems in society? A lot of people don't know that. So maybe I gave it away. Maybe fewer people will end up going and getting it. But the moment that he did that, it's like, wait a minute, this is going completely against. it wasn't supposed to be an anti-cop thing. It was supposed to be, we want the criminal justice system to do what the criminal justice system claims to do,

and that's protecting the people. And it completely worked at cross-purposes. In fact, I would argue if you were to watch Citizen Vigilante that there were more police officers being killed in that than there were dirtbags who needed to have the trash taken out, so to speak. And so I'm really starting to think that whoever was behind citizen vigilante was probably more. And people are advertising it. Oh, boy, you know, the globalists are really upset about that. In fact, even the people over at the John Birch Society on the new American.com

we're talking about how, you know, the globalists are really terrified that they're seeing this movie. And it's, you know, and people are getting upset about stuff not being done and the criminals not being taken care of in their society. Well, they certainly are about. that but then when you have the citizen vigilante killing all the police officers that he ends up coming across and in that one middle part and if you watch the movie you know what I'm talking about they killed more police officers than he killed the dirt bags how does that accomplish anything our police are all police just the I mean that's no different than what Antifa would say

all cops are bastards named ACAB so I don't know if you watched it did I see it right, or did I not interpret this properly in your view? I really would like to post that this morning or, you know, ask you and post it up there to the Southern Oregon jury. But yeah, there were more police officers killed in citizen vigilante than there were people who actually needed the vigilante touch. And I was surprised. That's kind of disappointed at that. It's not that I wouldn't have expected some police officers to find their way sideways with him, but to go out there. And it was like glorifying in the slaughter. of the police officers.

And so that makes me wonder, okay, was this film really not about just feeding red meat to people wanting their society safer, but was it more about like, oh, you know, all people that are taking things into their society, they're not going about it the right way because, you know, they really want to, you know, you really have to have all authority, and I mean only all authority in the hands of big government, you know, the warm arms of socialism and big governmentism. So that's what I was thinking. It came away. It was really, I thought it could have been done much better. And I start wondering in my conspiracy theory Thursday mind if maybe citizens vigilante was about discrediting any thought of vigilantes if it ever got that bad.

I don't know if you have an opinion on it or not, but I'm happy to take your call. 7705-633. say 25, hi, KMED. This is Bill. It is conspiracy theory Thursday. Who's this? Hey, Bill. It's Steve again. I apologize for that, but there's a book out that you really need to read. It was by Jonathan Turley, the attorney again, called Rage in the Republic. And it goes over what happened during the American Revolution. Thomas Paine was a grenade thrower. He was instrumental in the revolution. because he wrote a pamphlet called Common Sense. But his idea was pure democracy where everybody rules. And this book goes over how that worked in Greece, you know, have the golden age of democracy. Yeah.

Are you connecting this to my citizen vigilante? Absolutely. Okay. It's rage. It's rage. When you have rage ruling, it's nothing but hand grenades. And there is a lot of collapsible. lateral damage. Well, I looked at that, see, I was looking at it as a way of attempting to

discredit anyone taking the trash out, so to speak, and that, you know, trust the state to protect you, which, of course, it does a pretty poor job of many times. Yeah, the deal is it can happen either way. When you push rage, you're more likely than not to get yourself killed. And that happened in Greece, and that happened in the United States. That book is just wonderful in explaining how the Constitution that we have that gives checks and balances keeps rage from controlling. All right.

That's a very good point. Thanks for making it, Steve. 770 KMED on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Let me go to the next line. He's talking about Citizen Vigilante. I don't know if you've seen it or not. Who's this? Welcome.

Hey, Bill. Wanted to let you know. You remember Sherman Simmons from out in Sam's Valley? Sure. Yeah, I remember Shirm. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I don't know what happened to Shirm. I want to throw out the audience there.

I wanted to check in. He's gone off the radar, and I wanted to make sure he's still with that. Well, I think he moved away to Arizona or someplace like that. I haven't heard from him for a while, but I'll check into it. Maybe somebody else can help us out if Shire and. still around. But what's your point there, though, Logan? Back one. I watched the movie, too, when you suggested it. And I think you're right. I think there's a subliminal message there of no trust, trust, trust. But the bottom line is out

in New Mexico, there's a young man who just got a rest. He's actually a friend of mine for cutting down these flock cameras. You know, that's what I want to. You're a friend of that guy? That guy? Really? Yeah, his name's John Vaughn. He's a, he's, you know, the Bible's very clear about not getting involved with revolutionaries, and I'm not, like, involved with them. And I'm, please, for the record, I'm not going to be cutting down any flock cameras. So when they started to get cut down, it was not me. Okay. Yeah, I get it. But we need to do something about these flock cameras that are in our valley. They are, we are already set up where we are a police state. They are everywhere. And the, people have just been silent about it. But other than Ashland and Ashland was able to ban them. Why can't

we ban them in all of Jackson County? All right. Now, they're on private property for the most part, aren't they? Well, no, they're on public property. You can see, I got two. I got two at the end of my street. There's right here on Columbus. They're everywhere. They put them about 30 feet at the top of poles. Some people who noticed a lot of them because they put them about 30 feet up, so it just a 16-foot ladder, just out of a reach for an average 16-foot ladder. Well, you know what's going to happen, though? The police, very often, though, and see, this is how I think they put the sheep asleep, Logan, in this particular case. I've noticed that the sheriffs and the police departments will start and because of license plate recognition cameras, which are flock cameras, we were able to catch

the dirt bag. And so people will default to this, but I'm noticing it in more and more news reports. But then it should be for all around. When Joe Blow gets his car truck, we should go after him. But I guarantee when Randy Sparicino gets his car stolen, they'll use him to go find his car. You know, it should be for everybody then. We should all have access to them if they're going to be public. Number one, we should all have access to them. But the bottom line is these aren't actually owned by anybody. He cut down those flock cameras. He got down in New Mexico.

No one is claiming ownership of these flock cameras. That's the bottom line. If you really go under all the radar and all the little paperwork, no one is actually accepting responsibility for this. So if there's no victim, there's no crime. Interesting, Tay. Thanks for the call, Logan. 770KMED.

And I'd see there's a conspiracy theory Thursday for sure. Hi, hey's this. Morning. Welcome. This Paul. Williams. Hey, Paul. What's you thinking? Well, I'm thinking that if we found out who all the producers and the directors and the screenwriters are on this film that you're talking about,

that might kind of point in whatever direction that their underlying intent is. Yeah, but wouldn't you agree that if you're going to have a so-called citizen vigilante, and boy, isn't this good that the trash gets taken out, but then they kill all the cops? Sort of a mixed message, right? Well, it's a mixed message, but listen, these people are geniuses that make a message. and innuendo and subliminal messages. Look at Avatar and some of the others like that. You can be told something you didn't even know you were told it. And I agree with you.

I think what they're trying to say is it's a vigilante thing overall. And, you know, it's a mixed feeling. It depends on how much problem you have and whether the government's taking care of it or not or what you need to do. But I'm going to have to see the movie and form some more opinion. All right. I appreciate it.

you, Paul. It's 831 at KMED. Get ready to dance in the aisle. Go of the leash. Your foot was on the gas, and her life was on the line. Speeding catches up with you. Paid for by NHTSA. It is 833. We'll check news here in just a moment, but Minor Dave is here. Hello, Dave. You want to the way in on, is it the vigilante or something else, Dave? Go ahead. Welcome. It's ultra where you call that program, the CIA and the British. did.

Yeah, the MK Ultra. Yeah. Right. So since when does government close out any program, they just change the name of it and continue on. Okay. They probably rename it something like, you know, mine drugs for peace. How about that?

Or they, like, Donald Trump is renaming ICE to Nice. Yeah, there we go. All right. Good point, Dave. Jay's here. Hello, Jay. You're not happy with those flock cameras either, I guess, like Logan was? Oh, no, no, don't like him at all.

My suggestion is get yourself a 22 cricket and shoot them out, and that's it. And they'll have to keep replacing them. Yeah, I would not recommend that, Jay, because at some point you'd be discharging firearms in the city limits to do that, plus you'd be committing vandalism. You know, you remember a cool hand, Luke? he got in trouble for cutting down the the time machines on

the street. Actually, it's been a long time since I've seen that. I remember the egg eating episode, but... Yeah, he took a pipe rinse and just cut the heads off. Okay. All right, so you'll be okay with that. All right. Thank you, Jay.

It's 835. We'll catch up on news and more coming up here. And actually a happy conspiracy theory Thursday story, but it has to do with animals. I'll tell you more coming up. For precision and performance, choose Stephen West. Bill Meyer, KMED News.

It's 837 Bill Meyer, KMED Talk Now. And John, John, you went to see My Omaha. We were talking with Marla Estes the other day, and they were doing this Building Bridgers Film Festival, and it was at the Rogue, I'm sorry, the Jackson County Library, the main room the other day, wasn't it? Yeah, Bill. went last night and a couple nights ago.

A couple nights ago. Yeah, a couple nights ago, yeah. Yeah, it was really a powerful movie because it kind of bridges the father-son issue, the left-right issue, and the black-white issue, all three powerful things that divide us. So you gave it some thumbs up. Now, next week they're going to be doing one at the Road Valley MetaSue. a physical library in Ashland. I think that one is called the Conservatives. You going to go to see that one too? Yeah, I've already registered for that one. I'm looking forward to it.

And there was a little bit of discussion, non-political, you know, that's not, that wasn't allowed. That was the format. But people just kind of talking from their own experience, and they gave a survey before the movie and after the movie to see if any of your opinions had changed. Interesting. Did any change? No, because I still care about people that I disagree with or that disagree with me. Because it really wasn't any change for me. But, you know, like Captain Austin Fitz, she said years ago, the best thing we could do is turn off the TV because this is where we kind of buy into whatever on either side. And instead of like digging deep within ourselves to decide what's important to us and then work to define.

defend and discuss that instead of just, you know, tossing opinions about what we've heard on TV. Interesting. So that's going back to McLuhan's. The media is the message, right? The medium is the message, yeah. All right. John, thank you for the review of that. I'm glad to hear that. I can assure you that movie was better than Citizen Vigilante. All right? I can assure you of that. You got a bill. Yeah, that's $5.99 that I'll never get better. All right. It's 20 before 9 and more next. Summer just got a whole lot taste here.

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visit Fontana Roofing Services.com. David Siddin is the executive director of Wildlife Images Rehabilitation and Education Center. It's out on Lower River Road in Grants Pass, and wanted to bring him on talk about some wildlife issues as of late here. Dave, good to have you on. Morning, sir. Well, thank you. Good morning.

First off, are you doing any fundraising that we should know about to keep the critters alive and happy? And, you know, how do you actually work that? I guess it must be a 501C3 or some sort of organization like that. What do you do? Yeah, we're a nonprofit organization. So every day we're trying to raise funds to keep everything going because, you know, the expense, to operate a place like this, you get bigger and bigger every year. We get more and more animals brought to us that are injured or orphans every year.

And, of course, we absorb all those expenses. So it gets very, very expensive to do what we're doing. So fundraising is pretty much a non-stop activity. I'll bet. How many creditors do you have under your control right now or help? I think right now in the clinic, which are, you know, patients. I think we're at 105, I think something right now. So it's been a busy season.

We get as many as 40 animals in a day is our record. 40 animals a day come in there? Really? Sometimes, yeah, on a real heavy day. Wow. What is the most common animal if you were to take a guess at, you know, that is in need of care over wildlife images? Well, typically it's birds.

Nesting birds this time of year. There's a lot of people clearing brush, cutting down trees, and cats are probably the main culprit of bringing in birds. You know, they catch birds indiscriminately, and so we get a lot of small birds this time of year. Okay, good. Dave, I wanted to ask you a few questions and maybe get the real story on what's been going on.

There's been a lot of conversation recently about a wandering old bear here in southern Oregon. First, it was going between Phoenix and East Medford, and then wandered out to White City the other day. definitely looks like a really old bear, very thin, and probably doesn't have really good teeth as the way ODF and W described it. And some people were writing me and asking, well, why isn't wildlife images involved with this? And I thought, okay, well, I don't know. So that's why I thought I bring you on talk about this.

How does that actually work when you have wildlife that would appear to be in distress out there? Or maybe he's not in distress. I don't know. What do you say? Well, yeah, I met with Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Officials yesterday, and we talked about this in some detail. Their read on it is it's a younger bear. It's not an old one. Oh, it's a younger one.

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's their perspective on this. And they've looked at it much more detail than I have. And, of course, this time of year, they're blowing off their fur coat from the winter. So they always look scraggly and skinny and things this time of year, like our wolves here, look that way right now. getting rid of their winter of fur and everything. Okay. And this bear from their perspective has not been causing any trouble anywhere.

So getting involved basically let nature take its course, let the bear find its own way out of the way of humans, and everything should be just fine. So that's basically their point of view. And of course, we can't intervene. We have permit issued to us from six different regulatory agencies. and we have to follow the rule of law with each one of these agencies. And the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, of course, we don't want to interact with things that's their responsibility. And so that we can't really legally get involved with a wild bear without their permission. So let me just give a what if, Dave.

If a wild bear, let's say, got struck by a car, it was alive but could be treated then. Is that then something that ODF and W would then allow you to treat, or would you still call them up and have to say, hey, we got a bear that has a broken paw, got hit by a truck or whatever? What would the procedure be on something like that? We'd have to clear it with them before we get involved. Okay. They'd have to be read in on whatever's going on and then issue us, you know, you go ahead and get involved or not. So that's typically how we operate.

They've been great partners with us over the years, and we have a good road. working relationship and understanding, and we want to keep it that way. Okay. And are there any, is there any wildlife, which is kind of like, hey, whatever it gets brought in is fine, like, like, let's say, birds, or maybe if you get to a migratory bird, you have to be careful. Any rules on that? I'm just asking, you know, curiosity, really, is what I'm wondering here. Yeah, songbirds and most birds, even rafters, are easily brought into our facilities that are down and weight or there need help. we take care of them. The things that we don't deal with are things like fawns. We don't take fawns in.

They are very problematic, and they're really difficult to raise. And typically, if they've been exposed to adenovirus or anything like that, they have to be euthanized. So basically, we have a moratorium on dealing with fawns. Okay. And so our advice to the public is if you see a fawn out in the wild, leave it alone, because they are born without a scent. And if a human interaction, with them and gets any scent on them, then they're vulnerable to predators. Wow. Yeah, because the mother will reject it, right? Mother will just say forget about it.

And the predators can find them. So, you know, intervention by a human could be a death sentence for a fawn. So leave alone, and quite often the parents will bed the little fawns down, and then they'll go out and graze for a while, you know, in browse, and they'll come back to them in, you know, hours, sometimes, you know, many, many hours later pick up the fawns and off they go. So leave them alone if you find them out in the wild. All right. So it's perfectly okay.

I've heard that mothers will tend to leave the fawn and go out and do the grazing and getting food and things like that. It's nothing unusual, but people freak out, right? You know, we're all helicopter parents, Dave. Absolutely. That works. How long have you been doing this? I mean, this has been a passion of yours, rather, for a long time, hasn't it?

Yeah, I've been here for this, my first. 30th year at wildlife images. And before then I was at Oregon Zoo for 12 years. And then before that, I was SeaWorld training killer whales. No kidding. So I had a long history with wildlife. What is probably the most unusual animal you've ever taken in in Wildlife Image? Do any really strike out you?

It's like, boy, this one is a weird one, but people didn't know about. Well, we were about, oh, it's probably 10 or 12 years ago. We were brought two fishers, which are very, very unusual, very. very seldom seen in this area. And they came in in bad shape. We nursed them back to health. And we were told by the, I think, federal fish and wildlife, we were the first ones to ever rehabilitate fishers and get them back out in a while.

So that was kind of a neat thing to do. No kidding. All right. So if people drop by, can you actually tour? Can you see what's going on? For some reason, I've never had the opportunity to visit yet. I've always wanted to. Well, you better fix that.

Okay. Yes, we're open seven days a week, and tours are welcome. And, of course, there's spots still in Camp Eek. We have our kids camps here, which is environmental education and kids, is Camp Eek. And that's a wonderful thing to get kids up close and personal with our animals and have a wildlife experience as well. So we've always got something going on here at Wildlife Images, so we encourage people to come out and visit. All right. And so don't worry about the young bear.

Now that I know he's a young bear, I thought he was an old. old bear, but young bear, it is. And just let him be, and he'll figure it out this summer somehow, right? That's the basic takeaway. That's it. All right. Dave, thanks so much for the take on this, and we'll have you back. Be well. Take care. Thank you very much. It's been a chunk of Evan talking with you. Thank you. Dave Sidden is the executive director at Wildlife Images. You can find out more wildlife images.org. This is the Bill Meyer Show. MSRP 46-275-39-9, do it signing 10K miles per year, zero security deposit, all incentives and discounts to dealer plus tax, title, license, 150 registration, processing fee, trading in a vehicle

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So they spoke to Mitch McConnell. Republican leader spoke to Mitch McConnell. Okay. Sure they did. I know that's a conspiracy theory Thursday deal. 853. Brad's here. It is conspiracy theory Thursday. Brad, you wanted to weigh in not just on Citizen Vigilante, the movie, but that talk with Rob Schloffer yesterday.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good morning to the award-winning Bill Meyer. Well, thank you, Brad. So the deal, if you want to look at the nexus between those two, all you have to do is take a look at the Overton window and how it's moved in the last 40 years from when you and I were kids, if we saw the nonsense going on in our public school systems today, you know, men playing in women, sports, kids being taught things

that only parents should be teaching all this sort of thing. Well, frankly, fathers would have been down there at the school, kicking the butt of the people claiming to be this way. That's what would have happened. Yeah, so whether you were raised in Ohio like you were or Oregon, like I was, anywhere in the United States, nobody would have put up with what our kids are being exposed to today 40, 50 years ago. So the Overton window has moved.

So now you look at the movie that you're talking about, the vigilante movie, any movie, any product that you see that's designed by the media for consumption is whether they're want to admit it or not, it's designed to move of the Overton window in whatever way the promoters are. So if you get somebody upset enough about something, I mean, the premise of the vigilante movie, which by the way I haven't seen Bill,

don't know where they will see it, but as I understand it, the premise is that this vigilante acting outside of the law is doing something that many people would agree with, why, because they have been so, they've been so injured. And nobody I know no matter how upset they are, would

would be okay with violence against police officer. I don't know anybody that would be okay with that. But the premise of the movie appears to be, if the wrong is bad enough, then the means are justified. And that's very communist. And the nexus there on the education side is that it's okay to take people's money to teach kids because the school system on the social side has been trying to correct social wrong since about the mid-1970s

and forward. So at what point are parents going to look at, you know, for instance, here in the Rogue Valley, 549C school district spends $30 million a month on educating your kids, the kids that live here in the 549C school district, at some point the parents are going to say, you know what, the largest product liability lawsuit that's never been filed is this education that I paid for to educate my kids that is actually culturally and socially damaging them. to do something about it. What do you think about that? I think that is a very interesting point that you raise here. There was that, gosh, there was this high school graduate up in

Washington, I believe. And I haven't checked into that story recently who ended up suing the school district because they gave her a diploma, but yet she's a functional illiterate and cannot read. And yet they claim that here she is. She's educated now. Yeah. Yeah. For the last six years, the Oregon requirements for graduation from high school are exactly zero. Not even attendance because of the executive order that Kate Brown made back in 2020. Yeah, four reasons. Brad, that's very interesting. And thank you for the call.

He will wrap up the calls on Conspiracy Theory Thursday, okay? Now then, some emails of the day. More emails of the day, and those are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry. It's central point family dentistry.com. And by the way, you'll find them on Freeman Road right next to the Mazelon Mexican restaurant, Central Point, family dentistry.com. Good place. Good people. Doobie writes me this morning, Bill, I am telling you, Bill, you need to get Medford Police Department on to discuss these flock cameras.

They absolutely benefit anyone who has had a vehicle stolen. You have people come on and rail about the cameras. It's time to get someone from the other side and get their perspective. Doobie, with all due respect, government. police will always want to have more surveillance. Always. There's never any doubt what thumb that they're on. Okay. And that's just it. There's no doubt that they would like. And in fact, I'm sure ultimately, every police officer in the entire continent, it would make their job easier. If we just had a panopticon watching everybody everywhere, even inside their house at one time,

at the same time. And that's why, you know, what's the point of talking to the police? Okay, yeah, we can solve crimes much more easily, all right? I get that. The question that these people who are against the fog of the flock, the flock camera are asking is, at what point does privacy come into being anywhere here in southern Oregon? And by the way, this is around the entire country. So I know what the police will say about it.

They like it. Of course they do. Which police would not like it. All right. Granny writes me this morning. And by the, I could talk to them anyway and they'll say, oh, look at how much we solved with this.

Yeah, and I'll bet you if you'll put a camera and a microphone in every room. Oh, wait a minute. It would be a cell phone. Never mind. Thank you, Dewey. Granny writes me. Bill, I listen.

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