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Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Morning News, later a great talk with Lina and Jereme Hall, and daughter Mia - one of three families from BACK TO THE FRONTIER show - liveing as 1880s era homesteaders. Open phons and topics follow.

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Haven't been exactly really good at answering them the last couple of days been busy doing you know other stuff outside the the radio station going up on mountaintops and doing little repair work you know dealing with the heat and all those kind of things but trust me i appreciate what you write i read them and answer as many as i can as soon as get staff, we'll work on that part. Okay? You know, in all of the news that has been out there for quite some time, and most of it bleeds, it leads, right?

Whatever ends up being a problem is more interesting than like saying, hey, all the plans landed at Medford International or, you know, Rogue Valley International Airport, everything's just fine. You're like, okay, tell me when something's different, right? You know, and then the crash happens or there is a engine ends up failing or something. They're okay. Yeah, it's a big deal. You know, I get that, but it is wonderful to be able to report on one of the best news stories when it comes to free speech that I've heard for a long time, because free speech was and continues to be under attack. Yes, even in the Trump administration under MAGA

situations, because whoever ends up being president wants to control narrative. That's it. Sometimes it ends up being about screwing with your access, as the case might be. You know, that's a bipartisan kind of play. It really is. But a federal appeals court yesterday overturned the conviction of Douglas Mackey. Remember Douglas Mackey? Douglas Mackey was the guy that posted a meme online. It was an anti-H Hillary Clinton line, but... and he was charged with essentially election interference by posting a meme. And the evidence said, and this is what happened, US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit ended up overturning this

conviction, the evidence against Douglas Mackey, they said, is insufficient to prove that he knowingly conspired to interfere with the right to vote. The evidence against Douglas Mackey, they said, is insufficient to prove that he knowingly conspired to interfere with the right to vote. The mere fact that Mackey posted the memes, even assuming that he did so with the intent to injure other citizens in their exercise of their right to vote, is not enough, standing alone to prove a violation of Section 241. The government was obligated to show that Mackey knowingly entered into agreement with other people to pursue that objective. This the government failed to do. This according to the circuit judge Deborah Ann Limmingston. This is being reported by the

way in the Epoch Times. Unanimous panel. They all they all agreed with this one. DOJ spokesperson declined in an email to the Epoch Times to comment on the decision. Mackie celebrating the ruling writing on X, I'd like to thank God, thank my family, thank my beautiful wife, the attorney, etc. blah, blah, blah, who prayed and donated and spread the word since day one. In fact, I think I recall sending some money to his legal defense. Mackie posted and shared several memes on Twitter ahead of the 2016 presidential election that targeted supporters of Hillary Clinton. The memes encouraged the supporters to vote via text or on social media.

Neither of these methods is legally valid. That was the whole thing. And I remember that, you know, text blah blah blah blah blah, and you get your vote in for Hillary. Now, I would say that I don't care if he was trying to manipulate the election. In fact, I would dare say, and would you agree with me on this one, that if you are a voter stupid enough to think that you could text your vote, don't you deserve to be manipulated? And frankly, if you would believe something like that, I want you out of the voting pool!

You're obviously not intelligent enough to be able to have the franchise. And maybe that's the problem. We have a universal franchise. It doesn't matter what dim a bulb you might be. Now, I'm talking about you, a person. It doesn't matter how stupid someone gets, their vote counts as much. Yay. But to me, I'm a free speech absolutist. I really am. And when I saw that, and of course this was the system that was just roaring. This was all part

of the beginning. This was when the cancel culture started really getting big. But now he doesn't have to go to prison. And, um, prosecutor said Mackie spread disinformation and infringed on the right to vote. Disinformation? Disinformation? Our government feeds us disinformation all the time. But I guess if you're going to spread disinformation about the government, what the government wants, then it ends up being a big deal. Disinformation. You know, the solution to disinformation is more information out there,

as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if you have an opinion on this, but I think that was just great news that Douglas Mackey ended up getting skating free on this one. But though, look, it took nine years. Took nine years of legal battle to come up with the obvious that putting a meme out there and parody and making fun is not election interference. Now there's another interesting story, and it comes from The Intercept. Now Intercept is a red diaper doper baby left wing kind of publication. Now it used to be Glenn Greenwald's publication.

They kicked him out because, see, Glenn was actually an honest liberal. And if you're too honest of a liberal, you couldn't even work at the intercept any longer. Glenn Greenwald, by the way, does great work on Substack. That's where he has landed now. But they put this story out, and I wanted to ask you about it this morning, because it doesn't have to do with immigration and what ICE is doing, and the ICE attacking the poor, downtrodden people of the world who are all supposed to be living in the United States. The headline is, ICE said they were being flown to Louisiana. Their flight landed in Africa. When eight men in the custody of immigration and custom enforcement boarded the plane in May,

officials told them that they were being sent on a short trip from Texas to another ICE facility in Louisiana. Many hours later, the plane landed in Djibouti. Whoa! It landed in Africa! And now the men were held in shipping containers for weeks, shackles on their legs, and the past weekend they were expelled out of that country to the violence-plagued nation of South Sudan. This deception, revealed by an Intercept investigation, highlights the links to which the United

States government will go to further its anti-immigrant agenda and deport people to so-called third countries to which they have no connections. Lawyers for the three men said their clients were told after... Okay, they were resisting deportation to Africa, that they were instead being transferred to a detention facility in Louisiana. ICE then hustles them onto the plane, flies them out of the country without their knowledge or consent. This account further corroborated by the wife of one of those same men who was told about ICE's tactics in real time.

The story continues, this underscores just how abysmal and reprehensible the government's treatment of these men has been from the very beginning, and the fact that the government made no genuine attempt to comply with the district court injunction in place prior to shipping them out of the United States. This according to Glenda Aldana-Madrid, a staff attorney at the Northwest Immigrant Rights Project who was representing one of the men, Tuan Thanh Phan. Aldana Madrid adding, Tuan and the other man had the right to know where they were going,

and yet the government did not have the basic decency to even put, to do that before putting him on a plane bound for a country none of them knew, and that is on the brink of civil war. bound for a country none of them knew and that is on the brink of civil war." So the intercept sends numerous requests to Ice Barbie over at Ice for comment and they acknowledge receipt of the questions but did not reply. Now you see the men were entranced in May, a federal judge intervened citing a prior nationwide injunction blah blah blah blah You know what happened back then. Here is the deal. All the men who ended up landing in Djibouti had been convicted of violent crimes. Many had served lengthy prison sentences and had orders of removal,

meaning that the government had the legal authority to deport them. But most of the men who hail from Cuba, Laos, Mexico, Myanmar, and Vietnam have no ties to South Sudan. An eighth man is South Sudanese but left Africa when he was a baby, before the nation of South Sudan even existed. Question for you. Are you sympathetic to this case? Because obviously the intercept is,

we have a bunch of men convicted of violent crimes, resisting deportation before, many had served lengthy prison sentences. Do you care that their deportation flight landed in Africa? Should you have to have a contact with the country? I mean, should you only be deported back to the country where you may have illegally immigrated from? I don't know. Maybe talk to me about that if you have an opinion.

But I have to tell you, of all the things President Trump has done, getting tough on the illegal immigration issue is job one. We don't need these kind of people here. And you have wives that are like, oh, wow, you're going to be mad at me. I know it kind of sounds sketchy, right? But to me, this is another example of it just feels like once again, we're crying tears in worrying about people who have violated every law coming in here in the first place, we're violent when they're here, and then we're supposed to be slobbering over them as to where they go when they get kicked out of the country.

I kind of don't care. I'm like that guy, Tommy Lee Jones in that great movie, The Fugitive, with Harrison Ford. Harrison Ford's saying, I didn't kill my wife, and Tommy Lee Jones is saying, I don't care. I don't care. I kind of don't care about this. But The Intercept on the left sure does. Do you care? Am I wrong about this?

Is this just the slippery slope in which ICE starts manhandling all of us and deport us all out of the country at some point, and ICE Barbie gnome will be ... I call her ICE Barbie because, you know, the hair extensions... you got to get rid of the hair extensions, Christy, just saying. Put a ponytail on the... but don't do the ICE Barbie thing. But anyway, I don't care. Is it wrong to not care? I'll throw that out to you. 7705633770KMED All right, it's conspiracy theory Thursday. You heard a good one. Hi, this is Bill. Good morning. Who's this? Hey Bill, it's the floor will Patrick. Good morning. I got to talk fast.

Okay, the Hey Bill, it's deplorable Patrick. Good morning. I got to talk fast. Okay. Just briefly, a few minutes ago you mentioned somebody said, the men have a right to know where they're going. Yes. This is very irritating to me. Do you just create a right by asserting it? Who says they have a right? Where's that written? Do you just declare they have a right and then a right exists? Well, apparently, if you're the... I guess my point being, they resisted deportation,

they were violent while they were here, causing all sorts of trouble. And I don't know, I'm kind of... I'm at the end of my sympathy for people. You know, it's that once again, that pathological altruism that is always being, you know, we always talk about when it comes to the left wing. We're going to be the most generous and the most understanding to all the people who don't deserve any of our tears or consideration, in my opinion at least. A good example of that would be just a couple of days ago, the ICE agents or some officials were out there and then somebody took a shot at them with a rifle or something like that. They've just proven that they don't belong here. They don't want to be here, but they've just

proven how rotten they are and that they don't belong here. Yeah, and I know that this is just something which makes your teeth hurt, doesn't it? At some point when you see this kind of stuff, it's what Eric Peters always says, it makes my teeth hurt. It's what he says. And I love that statement, I really do. It makes my teeth hurt. He's a very good guest on your show. Well, I'll get it going, Bill, but I just want to make the point. You don't have a right just because you assert a right. Yeah.

Well, I guess we've had a lot of years, or many years, of not really enforcing the law and not enforcing the law, I guess, ended up softly creating a right in these people's minds. Maybe that's it, okay? That's probably, yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, and the way I'm looking at it is that be glad that they weren't being deported under Pinochet, because remember Pinochet, he did the helicopter rides

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This is News Talk 1063 KMED and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show. I ended up getting an ultra-secret, well-pre-screening of a really interesting series, which is going to be starting tonight. In fact, starting tonight on Magnolia Network and Max. And have you ever wondered what it would be like to, well, live back in the 1880s? And I mean, really live back in the 1880s? Well, there are three families that are in the middle

of doing this show. I don't know if they've already gone through the months of this or if they're just getting ready to start or not, but I wanted to talk with them. The show is called Back to the Frontier, and Linda and I loved it. We thought it was great fun. We were watching it the other day. And Lena and Jeremy Hall are one of the three families there. And I think Mia is there too. Lena and Jeremy, welcome to the show. Great to have you on. Morning. Morning.

Yeah. Good morning. Thank you for having us. All right. Hey, we really appreciate this. And I mean, are you by the way, Mia, you're the daughter, right? Yep, I'm the daughter. I'm the oldest. Okay. Yeah, the oldest. Now, are you still talking to your parents after them bringing you into this? Just have to ask. It was kind of fun to watch. Yeah, you're still in contact. Okay, I'm good. I'm glad to know this. But anyway, Lena, let me start with you. If you don't mind here, how do you get to the point where you are invited in to we're gonna because essentially what they did is that

You all left your homes You have to leave all your makeup all of your electronics everything and you're in homesteading cabins over in Colorado How do you even get selected for something like that? Was there like a casting call or did they know that you were in some prepper group or whatever? How did that all start? Yeah, it was basically like an application, a casting call. And we had to basically explain why we would wanna do this.

Why would somebody wanna leave this world and go to the 1880s? We explained that we are crazy kids that love experiences and challenges and Somehow we get picked You got well, I'm glad I'm glad to hear that there are a couple other families in this too Now had you already completed this or are you still in the battle at this point? I think normally something like this has to be done in advance, right?

Is that what happened? Was it last summer that you did it? When did you actually do this? Yes, we did that last summer and we're back to the modern world now. And yes, we went back to the 1880s for eight weeks and it was very challenging. Jeremy, if there's one thing, I wanted to direct this to you. It seemed to me that you were probably the most, at least my impression of watching the first episode, which by the way is premiering tonight, like I mentioned on Magnolia and Max. You seemed to be

the most enthusiastic. Would that be fair to say or were you just doing the dead thing of wanting to, you know, hey, we're going to make the best of this. What are your, what was your thought process going in? Well, I'm very exuberant like that anyway, outside of life. So it was another adventure for us. So I had a great time. Okay. So, but you seem to be the most enthusiastic where you're trying to convince the rest of the family to kind of go along or, I mean, I know you can't give away too much of what went on but just curious.

Not really. We all had the same idea. We all had something we wanted to get out of it, something we wanted to learn, and an adventure like that. We were all kind of willing to get in there and get rid of our phones and get rid of communication and see what it's like to live without that. But you know get away from the static and connect with each other, connect with nature again and our food, connecting with your food and getting our minds right. And that was the whole reason that we decided to go out and do it. And it sure did.

It was an experience of a lifetime. Hey, Mia, it wasn't easy. It was hard, but it was scary. Even in the first episode, when I saw what it was like, because the goal is that you're going to have to not only fix up your cabin and get everything done, which you have to use 1880s era tools, you have 1880s era canned food. Lena, what was your impression of the canned food of the 1880s even that was available at a country store then? Yes, I mean, as a mom, you're used to providing for your kids.

And I was the one that found this casting. I kind of talked everybody into it, and I felt a responsibility to feed my family. And now we have canned ham, and I felt pretty bad that I put everybody in this situation and there was nothing. I didn't have any tools or any recipes. I couldn't look up a recipe on how to make this thing better. So we just had to deal with it and top it up and suck it up and eat it. Yeah, yeah. Now, it looked like there was some kind of an almanac. Are there any instructions from the 1880s to help you get through this?

Around here, if the power is out for a few hours, we start panicking. I would imagine that was maybe your lifestyle before then too. Is there any kind of help to get you through this? Or do they just kind of throw you to the wolves on the show? The almanac kind of gave us a little guide of what they did back in the day, but it didn't really explain things. You know, it kind of gave you a little bit of a guide, a little bit of a direction. You had to kind of figure it out, everything in between for yourself. Mia, what was the biggest challenge for you,

especially as a teenager, the oldest teenager, but the oldest child going into something like this, absolutely completely different from any lifestyle that you had lived up to this point? I think one of my biggest challenges was honestly like hygiene. The thing I like really miss the most is just a simple shower and just yeah you know, always the constant feeling of feeling dirty. I think I was constantly cleaning dirt under my fingernails at least every 10 minutes. So that was something that it was hard to adjust to for sure.

Yeah, I would imagine so. And, you know, we don't think anything of it. You know, you go, you wash your hands, you have running water. So is running, was running water the biggest thing? I would say, you know, to not have running water and city water or was it power or communications? What was probably the biggest deprivation in your, you know, in your view, in your mind? Well, we didn't have power, we didn't have running water, we didn't have, you know, the convenience of touching a button and getting something, right, turning on the lights or

even if we wanted to go to the bathroom, we had to put on our boots and run probably 100 yards to the outhouse. All these things were just really harsh realities of what the 1880s life was and it was one after the other. It was like we have to do this to do that. We're just so used to pushing buttons and clicking things. Everything's instant. Nothing was instant there.

Yeah. Yeah, like one of the biggest challenges in the beginning, everything we had to boil water, we had to heat. Everything we had to heat, we had to make a fire first. We had to heat the stove up. And then our cabin was hot. You know, it was summertime. We got heated out of our cabin and then as it got colder, we had to keep that fire going just to stay warm inside the house. You wake up in the in the middle

of the night, the fire's out because it would only last about an hour. You know, so the first thing you did in the morning was get out there and make a fire to heat the place up. And then you had to get it heated up so you can make whatever, tea, oatmeal. Yeah. Did the experience of having to not only repair the cabin, grow food, you had to grow a crop, and that's part of it, and I guess I'm going to have to keep watching these, and I've got your program, Dan, I got to watch this. I thought it was a great show, a great concept. And it puts you all in that mind of what would you do in that same situation? But I'm kind of curious how the family what was the the greatest impact on the family of? No distractions and having to essentially work your tail off from sun from sunrise to sunset Really in order to to survive and actually get your food.

I don't know who wants to tackle that one, but I'd love to hear that. Greatest impact on the family. Well, we learned to appreciate each other because everybody had a role. Like cooking dinner, you needed wood, you needed a fire, you needed clean dishes. So everybody had a role. And without all the outside world distractions, we got to know each other better, connect with each other better, appreciate each other better, work as a team to accomplish one thing. Like dinner was a big deal.

Cooking dinner was a huge deal. It took everybody. It took a lot of time. And then when it was all said and done, we had to go outside and do our dishes, with water and make it up. So it was very challenging. Is there anything you miss about that? I'll be final question. I know you got to go talk to other people, but I was wondering anything you miss about this? Yeah, we miss being out there. We miss nature and connecting out there. It was amazing. It was beautiful. Lena and Jeremy Hall and Mia Hall, we appreciate you coming on here. I thought it was a great show.

At least I saw the first episode of it and I'm looking forward to the next one. But it's premiering tonight. It's called Back to the Frontier, debuting tonight on Magnolia and Max. Very thought provoking reality show. Thanks for being on the program. Really appreciate it. It's 639 at KMED. At Drake's Paint and Supply, we know your color because we know our community. on the program, really appreciate it. It the best quality and service in town.

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And oh my goodness, they should be going back to their main country. Well they ended up being dropped off in Africa, in Sudan, then being kicked off. It wasn't very pleasant, but I was thinking, okay, you weren't very pleasant here. I'm just kind of over worrying about this kind of stuff. All right, you broke all the laws, you broke laws when you were here, you treated people badly, and now I'm supposed to feel sorry for you.

And it just irritates me. And Dan wrote me about this. He said, Bill, you beat me to it with the helicopter rides in Chile. I was thinking that those eight criminals should be thankful that the plane landed in Africa instead of opening the back ramp on a C-130 and letting them out at 30,000 feet. I would prefer the latter.

Life laugh out loud. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, and Bonnie writes me this morning, sympathetic? No, I'm with you on this one. Once they came here illegally and behaved badly, all bets are off. If it mattered to where they'd be returned, then they should have been cooperating earlier on. Yeah, because they were resisting, you know, deportation and doing everything, you know. It's just, yeah, I'm tired of

this pathological care. Can't take care of our own people, but I'm supposed to worry about people who broke into the country, you know, that sort of thing. And yeah, I know it would be ideal probably to have been more forthcoming about it. But at this point, I don't care. Of all the things going on, I really don't care about that. If you feel differently, I'm happy to take your call. One or two, 7705633. I'm going to give them a on it too. 7705633. I'm gonna give them a

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He shaved down my front teeth a little bit because they're a little crooked and he made them look more symmetrical by kind of grinding them flat just a little bit there was enough real estate on my front teeth so i guess instead of he says you look like you wore braces without having to wear braces i said thanks thanks doc i love that i just appreciate what he what he did i think you'd like that 77070-5633. Phones are open and it is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Good morning.

Hi, who's this? Good morning, Bill. Tom here. Hey. Yeah, Tom. Yesterday there was a very interesting headline article on the mayor of Chicago talking about how he was not going to work with the ICE and Trump's elimination of the border invaders and so forth and so on. And he went on, and the mayor went on and on saying, you know, Trump is terrible.

We need to be more compassionate and help these, you know, it's all about helping poor people and being compassionate with our neighbors. And as I was reading that, I'm thinking, well, yeah, you want to be generous and compassionate with other people's money. Exactly. That is a classic, great take on that, Tom. It really is. And I think people need to... You had your priorities of love, you love God, you love your family, and so forth. And what's going on here is, yeah, we've got all these compassionate liberals wanting to be, you know, compassionate with other people's money, and not have a choice in

the matter, you know, taxation, you don't have a choice. You have a gun in your ribs, and you pay up or go to jail, you know, or worse. And so this whole idea, I think this is a false compassion because it's not, it's being more concerned about people in other lands rather than being compassionate with the people that are struggling here. And the whole idea of having a border is to keep the good in and the bad out. We have an open border like that. We're acting like an escape valve for the corruption and dysfunctionality of other countries. If we had a stronger border, that would force the people in these other countries to say,

hey, the government's not working for us, let's revolt. Yeah. I was going to ask you here, something else that kind of came to my mind about this is that the liberal order, and when I say the liberal order, I'm also talking about liberal Republicans, because there are certain things that... You know, the Republican Party is not all that different from the Democratic Party about many things. They still believe in central banking and printing deals and deficit spending. Absolutely correct. And we have to remember this. One of the most irritating aspects of the liberal order today,

which both parties seem to agree on, is that we as a people are nothing more than little atomized economic units, right? Our only utility or value to the system is whether we can be here and do some work for the cogs, as cogs in the machine to a certain extent. They're like the cattle was tagging their ears. Exactly, exactly like that. And that there is nothing about American society that may have any cohesion involving either our shared ethnicities and backgrounds and heritage and everything else.

All that matters is that we can perform as a cog in the machine. And so they have fostered this open, this population replacement. If your current population is not very cooperative, replace it with a bunch of socialists from the third world. We learn how to be a cog in our government education. Yeah, exactly. Thank you for the call, Tom. Great call. Great take on that. It's irritating for sure. It's a 651. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? This is Jane. Hi Jane. Good morning. How are things with you? Ain't it great? I got a few things that I would like to say and more than one point, New Mexico got flooded. Why aren't we hearing about that on the radio? Also...

Oh, are we only hearing... Well, it seems like Texas was probably the majority, but New Mexico got it too, you're saying? I just want to be clear, I haven't heard much about that. Well, New Mexico is now flooding and that was said yesterday on what they call news on 12. And I was wanting to get the weather, that's all I want, is the weather for Grants Pass, not Metford. Well, I can give you the weather forecast really easy for Grants Pass. It's going to be sunny, hazy and hot.

Okay? How about that? And you didn't have to pay me anything. Yeah, that's what's going on. But anyway, they were blaming President Trump for the flood in Texas. That means we get to blame them for all the weather disasters and the fact they didn't do a thing. Oh, and the train wreck during the dictators reign. And now they want to be dictating Democrat politicians that tunnel that collapsed with all the people in it.

Huh. Their fault. They're Democrats. Yeah. I don't know if I want to get into that kind of game though, really. I understand. I understand. I just want to say, hey, you know, if you're going to do this, if you're going to blame us, you're going to blame Trump for this particular situation. By the way, it's just all they have right now, Gene, when you agree that's all I think the Democrat party has at this point is that if something bad happens, it must be tied to President Trump. The implication was that in the big, beautiful bill or in other budgeting

process that there have been cuts on national weather service, and that's why people weren't warned about it except the fact the matter is they had more people on duty in those National Weather Service offices to take care of these storms. And they did put out warnings but not everybody had, not everybody ended up receiving warnings obviously to the proper extent, to the extent they would have liked. Okay? Oh yeah, I heard that on the 12 news too, but anyway. And as for those illegal immigrants, we could go back to the 1800s and guess what would happen to those violent criminals that are invading? violent criminals that are invading, they'd get shot. All right. Gene, I appreciate the call.

In the 1800s, you defended yourself. Speaking of which, what did you think about that show in which they take these three families and put them back to the 1880s? I thought it was fascinating to watch them deal with it, all sorts of things that we kind of take for granted in modern Society that they had to work around it was interesting watching that and I think in what you lived back in the 1880s Didn't you? Well at that time when I was growing up The light company would not put power on the farms because it was a waste of money.

And they had to fight to get electricity. For water, you go down the hill, you remember to put water back in the thing that you used to prime the pump and I had to get a drink. Oh yeah, you had to prime the hand pump sometimes, didn't you? You had to pour some water down into it, right? Yeah, and you get the pump going and then you make sure you get water out

so the next person can prime it. Luckily, we had a tractor. That's how the water was brought back up the hill and back to cook. And we sponge bath once a week and wash our hair at the time. I grew up in it, so I was not really that far off. So you did really... You kind of understood where they were going, yeah. The teenager Mia Hall, who I was talking to a few minutes ago, was saying that the hardest adjustment for her was not being able to stay clean, it was the hygiene and then the dirt under the fingernails and you always feel grimy. And yet, you see pictures of homesteaders from the 1880s,

even early 1900s and such, and everybody kind of looked dirty, didn't they? And they were, really. You find this out. Not really. You take a container of water and you bat, and you take a bath. Yeah, but you weren't doing it routinely.

It wasn't like the daily shower like we're able to do, you know, right now. You just step in and get hosed off, that kind of thing. But I can appreciate that. I know, but you take a wash, right? You take your container of water after you've heated it, and then you take a bath. Yeah. In fact, I got, unfortunately, married into that kind of a situation. So it was something I was accustomed to, except we did have electricity. But as for the outhouse, yeah. Yeah, the outhouse isn't real pleasant though, is it? There's a snake in there with you. Outhouse isn't real pleasant though. You'll agree with me on that, right?

Oh yeah, because I walked in one day and there was a snake crawling across the floor. Yikes. Okay. I held onto my kitty and we left. Gene, thanks for sharing your brush with danger in the outhouse, okay? Well, I was told that I should have let go of my cat because my cat would have killed it. Well, I don't know. You're not going to risk my kitty cat. Yeah, no snakes going to mess with your cat. All right. Gene, thanks for the call. I appreciate that. I love that. I just had this vision. How old were you at that time, Gene? Do you remember? Well, I was into that when I was growing up and then when I got married.

Well, I was into that when I was growing up and then when I got married. I can see that in his vision. How old were you at that time? I was growing up in it and when we got water, I was in my teens. Boy, I was that. But of course, when my mother came home from the hospital, I got to turn on the light switch. And I thought, man, I was really being honored getting to turn it on. Exactly. Good going.

Hey, thanks for the call, Gene. I appreciate that. It's a fun little look back. So Gene actually lived maybe not in the 1880s style house, but certainly a little more rustic than certainly what she's experiencing right now in Wilderville, no doubt. It's 657 at KMED. It's not all about you. When it comes to your well water quality, there's a lot going on below the surface.

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Telling the truth was and continues to be a very difficult thing to do in the medical world, I guess. Earlier, I was talking with Lena, Mia, and Jeremy Hall and one of three families that is reimagining their lives as 1880 homesteaders. The name of the show is on Magnolia or HBO Max tonight. It's called Back to the Frontier and I got to screen the first episode. I found it really interesting and thought-provoking. I really did. And it gives you great appreciation for what we have in our

infrastructure right now and also what we're missing by having so many distractions. I think too there's a lot of that going on. Of course the thing is they always make people, I think the way the edit shows up is to make people look more privileged or insipid in the beginning and then maybe it gets better as time goes on. Because all the kids, all the kids in all the families were kind of not portrayed real well in my opinion. There are three families there. You have Lena and Jeremy Hall.

They're Caucasians. You have a black family. I thought they were really interesting. I'm thinking that they may win. Maybe that's what we're thinking with because they're very cohesive, very religious family. The gay dads, the gay dad family, yeah, you had to have the gay dad family, right? Right? You had to do this. Two gay dads and the kids. They are so soft on their kids. I don't think there's going to be any discipline. I don't think that... My bet is that they're not going to make it in the competition at least. They have to grow food and get things put back together. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

But yeah, I was sucked in. I think I thought it was pretty good. Let me go to the horse lady, Anne Sear. Hello, Anne. How are you? Good morning, William. I had owned a hunting business in northwest Montana in the 80s. You did? Okay. So it was a hunting business. Now, did you do guides or did you supply hunters? They were going out there. Well, my ex-husband guided and we had one guide. But we had grizzly in camp, lived in a sidewall tent, heated with wood. The first year I took a bath in 34-degree water in the creek.

Whoa! Oh man, I'll tell you, let me tell you Ann, that sounds like some shrinkage, okay? Oh boy! Let me tell you what, it was cold. But I got smart because they made a thing called the sun shower and I started doing that and I got warm water then and everybody got a bath that way. But I'll tell you, if you can live with it, living in the wilderness isn't so bad. But I had just enough, I'd canned food and I had real food and it was cold. You know, it was a hard life. And back in the 1880s, no washing machine, no conveniences. Oh my goodness, it must have been horrible.

Well, you know, no doubt though, but I don't know if they necessarily would have thought it was horrible because, you know, there were just fewer conveniences even in general, even in the city, you know, in those days. And we've become used, I think, to much, much more. And what ends up being a tragedy is whatever goes away that you're used to at the moment. Like, I mean, you have three, the power's out for three hours in a hot day, like it was the other day. For us, it's like, oh man, how am I gonna get to sleep

and get up and do my radio station job, right? I'm just kidding, but you know. I'll tell you one thing, hiking 100 feet to the Chick Sale, which is what an outhouse is called, you make sure that you take a big can of wood ashes out there and leave it in there because when you do your duty, you use wood ashes that keeps the smell down.

Oh, you had to cover it up, right? That was what... You just bring it on. Wood ashes are a lie. It cleans everything up. One of the first things in that Magnolia Network show that I was talking with them about, back to the Frontier. One of the first things, one of their first experiences was the outhouse and especially

the women were going, I'm supposed to sit on that? And it's all kind of like broken down. Everything's just an open pit below. And the kids of course were looking at this and there was an old catalog and some newspaper left in the outhouse. And they said what is this for? They literally asked that and then they were explaining, oh you've got to be kidding me, you know, instead of toilet paper, that kind of thing. Well, I'll tell you one thing, you watch out

for spiders when you go in there. I'll bet you do, bet you do. And it was a luxury to have a two-holer. I think all they only have one-holers in all the families on this show. But anyway, it's interesting and I guess you get used to what you get used to, but interesting that the Halls were saying that the family did pull together much more remarkably in that situation because frankly you have to you have to be all pulling together you have to yeah absolutely you have to appreciate the call thanks for your story this is KMED KMED HD1 Eagle Point Medford KPXG Grants Pass Town Hall News is coming up