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Episode Date: July 11, 2026

Greg here from Rogue Weather Dot come with the latest outdoor report and news. Then a great talk with former Congressman Louis Gohmert - huge concern on birthright citizenship ruling and some possible solutions.

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Drive, and Medford. Every Friday morning we like to kick things around. for how it's looking this weekend. So what did people think about your singing? Funny, that's... I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to say this without sounding arrogant. But, you know... Oh, now, why should you change now?

Huh? I mean, Dad, and DNA blessed me with a lot of talents personally. Uh-huh. Singing was one of those. And, you know, I just, the last few years, I'd say probably, um, 20. I just haven't been singing anywhere nearly as much as I used to. And for people who don't know at one point in time, that was a big part of my life. I was a lead singer in country and rock bands, and it was a tremendous amount of fun. And like every guy who gets into it, the biggest attraction for doing it was, well,

the attraction and attention from the females in the audience. But was really good at it. And especially when I was in Sacramento, the band we had down there, the hunters, we were really good. And we were running in the same circles as a kid. And Metallica hadn't blown up yet. They were still strictly a Northern California act that still had Dave Mustaine in it. You know, so we were in a very happening Northern California music scene. And if we had all truly wanted to become, quote-unquote, rock star in the right place, place at the right time to be able to make that happen. But every single guy in the band,

we all did it just to have fun, just to meet girls, just to basically get paid to party every weekend. Well, see, that's the main reason of learning how to play. Come on, everybody knows that, all right? That was the way it was when, you know, in my band in Southern California, but I was in high school at that point. And we had a lot of fun. And we actually got a couple, a few paying gigs, but not that much. But it wasn't, I just realized as much as I would have loved doing it, it was not going to be the long-term career. And it's fine.

The people that do make it their career, good for them. But it's a rough, it was a rough road even then. But now, of course, with the way that the music industry is different, it's a completely different kettle of fish. It's almost like you're either Taylor Swift or you ain't nobody. You know what I mean? It's like that... Well, you can now go out and do things that in the old days you'd never be able to do without having some kind of a record deal.

I would agree. I would agree. Now, I'll talk with Sandy Ficca about this and Sandy Ficka with his Use Your Gift Foundation. Yep. And the challenge you're looking at right now is the pay that you get for streams, for streams of your songs. Just an infinitesimal. It's kind of like everybody thinks that your music for nothing. and your songs should be free, you know, there is kind of how they, is how they approach it.

You'll get millions of streams for something, and essentially the artists get, you know, a few bucks. It's not that much. And I guess this is, you know, the economic world. So you have to make your money by touring, local concerts, merchandising, things like that. You know, unless you're at the level of the Taylor Swift's, where, you know, you're able to move a lot of product, that kind of way. See, and my friend Bill Leopardy, who is the league guitarist and backing vocalist of Firehouse, one of the founding members, Bill told me what he gets in royalty from streaming each month. He goes, dude, it wouldn't even buy me a peanut butter jelly sandwich.

That's kind of what I was getting at. Rick Beato has talked a lot about that on YouTube about it, so it's a really interesting story. I don't have time to go down all this, but I love the fact that you won one of the grills yesterday. But you know, Lucretia won one of the grills. had no idea she wanted one of those things. And she said, yeah, Lucretia. So, you know, so apparently, you know, the Kemp trails down in Ashland didn't stop her from being a winner. So she was able to sing better than David Lee.

All right. So weather's going to be perfect this weekend. Nothing really to report about this. Just a typically beautiful July, Saturday and Sunday, and even for next week, looks like it's going to be the same way, isn't it? Yeah. Into what I call the vanilla weather period, which has a forecaster is pretty boring. because it turns into sunny today, sunny tomorrow. How many different ways can you say that?

The only variation to it is east of the Cascades. And we've got a red flag warning now in many areas east of the Cascades that is kicking in this morning, and I'm going to pull this up and look at it again. And in Clameth County, including the area around Clameth Falls, That red flag warning begins on getting the latest look at this, by the way, 11 a.m. this morning to 9 p.m. Sunday, strong dusty winds and low humidity, again, which includes that portion of Klamath County around Klamath Falls, basically all of central and eastern Klamath County, western Lake County, and extends down through Modoc County. you know, no lightning, which is good news, but unfortunately, somebody gets a spark. Yeah, you can have a human-cause fire blow up pretty quickly under those conditions, huh? Yep, exactly.

And there's a lot of grass in these areas. And if you get a fire moving through grass and it's got 25-mile-an-hour winds on it, that's how fast the fire will be moving until it builds up enough energy of its own. and then it can create even higher winds, which is exactly what we've been seeing in Colorado and Utah so far this year. The Aspen Acres fire, for example, winds generally in the area were gusting 30 to 40 miles an hour, but with terrain, with the effect of the fire, the fire was generating wind up to 100 miles an hour. Oh, man. I mean, you're not going to have enough water to put anything out like that. No, you're not.

No, you're not. Yep. The windy conditions, they couldn't get aircraft on the fire, not even helicopters, because it just was too volatile in atmosphere for aircraft to fly. And if we think back to 2020 with the Almeda fire, we had the same thing going early on with the Almeida fire with the winds. You couldn't fly the fixed-wing aircraft. You couldn't fly helicopters.

Everybody's wondering where the aircraft is. It reaches a certain point where the winds just get so high. The aircraft aren't going to be effective. Okay. Good to know that. So just keep that in mind if you're east of the Cascades, all right? But other than that, it's going to be beautiful here in southern Oregon. My question, though, how is fishing on this kind of a July weekend?

Are we now, is everything yet at the point where the waters are so warm that the fish have gone to sleep already? It's going out to be the case. We are absolutely at the point in time where if you're going to be fishing in the lakes, you better be fishing from the first allowable fishing light to about 8 a.m. in the morning, because after that, the fish run deep and they close their bouts and fishing gets really tough. It is going to be different in the lakes and in the river, I mean, sorry, the creeks and in the river, where temperatures are much colder. and this is the time of year we're fishing the upper rogue above prospect.

You get the big shady trees, the water is much colder, and you don't have to be up as, you know, the first light brides. You would say if you were going to be trying to fish, Diamond Lake or Hyatt or Howard Prairie. That creek fishing sustains much better. The quality of the fish in terms of eating is also much better when you're getting them out of the creeks. and the rivers. Union Creek has always been one of my absolute favorite creeks to fish when we start seeing the kind of conditions we're seeing in the lakes now, because it's the complete opposite in Union Creek.

All right. It's good to know. I'm speaking with Greg Roberts once again from roadweather.com, the outdoor report this morning, 20 minutes after seven. Caller, you have a question here for Greg. Just wanted to make sure that you get paid attention to. How are you doing? Deplorable Patrick here. Good morning, Greg. Good morning, Bill. just a silly question for somebody who was kind of aviation focused I would have expected that DC tends to be parked at the airport

here in Medford by now and I haven't seen them has got any information on that? Yeah, the DC one particular spot move constantly almost critical needs situations are at and there are just four of them. Now, it is unusual to not see an air tanker based here in Medford

that is here on the ODF contract. That we haven't seen yet, and they are using those aircraft right now. The bird that would be here in Medford is being used out of Redmond to fly on fires in central Oregon, and they're also working out of LaGrand on those fires up in northeastern Oregon, especially the salmon incident. So it's kind of a case of we've got a higher need right now elsewhere in the state for the air tanker that would have been based here in Medford. So it's skipping the bird that should be here is skipping back and forth between Redmond and LeGrand. And then once those incidents get handled, we will be seeing the appearance of an air tanker based here in Medford, quote unquote.

But again, that doesn't mean it doesn't go anywhere else. an ODF contract, and it could go anywhere in the state as needed. And right now, well, it's needed elsewhere. Need it out there. All right. Hey, it's a great question. Thank you, Patrick, for making that, all right? Now then, before we take off here for the weekend here, Greg, I had to talk with Dave

Sitton yesterday over at Wildlight Images and a good conversation because people have been writing me, and I'll bet you people have been writing or talking with you, too, and asking why wildlife images and grants pants pants wouldn't be taking care of the wandering bear or doing something to help them. And he did a pretty good job of explaining it. Hey, listen, we don't do anything with wildlife unless there's a real problem.

ODF and W, by the way, would not let them do anything unless they were to ask first. And apparently what we thought was an old bear is not an old bear. It's actually a young bear. Let's look at all scragy out there. Yeah, and the other thing is

bears will vary in appearance. And looking at the videos and pictures of this bear, I haven't been able to put my eyeballs on it yet. Then again, I really haven't gone to look because here's the other big thing, doing what bear is not sick or injured. That's the first thing. It's actually a fairly healthy young bear. The issue here is it is doing what bears will do. That's why ODF and W isn't requesting wildlife images to do anything. They're also not going to try and take the bear to another territory because, well, bears are already there.

It's just kind of a sad, very habituated to people. It's more than willing to show itself in broad daylight. That could be a problem in the future, couldn't it? Couldn't that be a problem in the future here with that bear? Most definitely area. It is a chronic issue now in Lake Tahoe. bears coming right into people's homes, into their cars, going wherever they please, because they are so used to being around people, they just don't care. This bear is definitely that.

It just doesn't care about the people. And the people are now freaking out and thinking, oh, something's got to be wrong, and they're demanding that somebody do something. Well, in this case, nobody's going to do a thing doing what a bear does. Yeah, I was talking with Dave, and I said, for example, if he had the bear that got struck by a car, let's say, right? That kind of thing. That might be different. And then they could say, all right, the bear broke his leg or whatever it is. Could we help the bear out?

And then ODF and W could say, yeah, we'll let you do that. But they just can't go out and just grab the wild life and just scoop it up and, you know, take it away. No, and again, the bigger, honestly, the people. people just flasking it all about bears and their behavior and then they're also demanding that bear that's just believe me this isn't the only bear in Medford or Phoenix habituated to people they're not coming right out and showing themselves again this is kind of the callousness of youth this is a young bear and the younger they haven't had that Ooh, these things are bad.

Well, they're young and stupid. That's what it is. Yep. Yeah, that's all. And we've actually seen it with the wolves, too. No, yearlings. We've seen them as old as two years old. We had a run of issue with two young wolves up in the Diamond Lake campgrounds for a couple of years there in 2020 and 23.

They'd come right into, like, the Brewery campgrounds in the middle of the day, with people right there and they didn't care, but ODF and W biologists also suspected people were feeding the wolves when they were showing up, helping attract them to people. There may be some element of that happening with this bear too, whether people are doing it deliberately or unwittingly, leaving pet food out, leaving garbage out. something helps keep attracting this bear towards humans. And that's not a good thing for the bear. It's also not a good thing for humans. All right. Point well-being, just leave the bear alone.

The bear is just being a bear. And I'm just hoping that it doesn't get so habituated that it gets itself in trouble, but that'll be a conversation for another time. And Mr. Outdoors, I appreciate you this weekend. Have a great time. What are the rogues doing before we take off? Yeah, we are now down to our last Friday. and Saturday games at home for the season.

So you want to come out and see us while you can because the team hits the road for a long road trip starting on Sunday, and we're not back at home until Tuesday the 21st, and then we've got Tuesday the 21st, Wednesday the 22nd, and Thursday the 23rd, and we're done for our home games for the season. Now here's the good news. For the first time, since I have worked for them, it looks very likely the rogues are going to make the playoffs.

Cool. We're excited about that. We're coming off a three-game sweep of the Lincoln Potters. We've never done that before, and now we've got the arch-rival humble crabs coming to town for two tonight and tomorrow. And if we take those two games, yeah, the playoffs go from being,

hey, you know, this might happen to, now we're in the driver's seat for a playoff position. So hope everybody comes out. The weather is going to be gorgeous. We couldn't have better evenings for baseball. All right, Greg, have a good time. Hope you all win them, okay? We'll talk next week.

See you then. Yeah, and I need to talk to you also off the air. Oh, okay. Hang on. Greg Roberts once again, and the Outdoor Report, sponsored by Oregon Truck and Auto Authority on Airway Drive in Metford on KMED and KBXG. The Diner 62 Breakfast Burrito sets the standard in the industry and has been analyzed by the finest food try. Hi, I'm Matt from Dusty.

Transmissions. I'm on 106.7, KMED. Like I mentioned before it's been a year since I've had the pleasure of talking with former congressman, and he's currently senior fellow for political statesmanship with the David Horowitz Freedom Center. And that would be former congressman from Texas, from actually Pittsburgh, Texas. I was born near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but we had an H. He doesn't have the age. Louis Gomerd, how you doing there? Congressman, great to have you back on. Well, it's great to be with you. Thank you. I'll tell you here, Congressman, last time we spoke, it was at a hold their feet to the fire conference in Washington, D.C.

You remember that when the Ferry U.S. used to be putting those on a number of years ago. And you have had a white-hot, well, arrow pointed at the heart of the illegal immigration for years and years and years. And I kind of wanted to find out and get your take. Thank you for remembering that. That battle has been going on for about two decades now. Yeah, two decades. And even now, even though there has been a great improvement, I get real concerned that the way things happen,

so much of this is being done with executive order at this time. You have a feeling that this may flip itself on its head, and then the borders are just wide open in a new administration someday? How are you seeing this? Well, that is exactly. Well, and I love talking to you for exactly that reason. You see what the problem is. The executive order is, I started to say it's fine, but it's not adequate.

It needs to be put into law, and now we see that when you have a chief justice like we have, it actually needs to be a constitutional amendment. but it shouldn't be. It's pretty clear. But anyway, yeah, the executive order is only going to be as good as this administration. And then the next one, as we saw with the Biden administration, and they can just throw the gates wide open once again. So that is the problem. And we saw it with the Obama administration. They threw the gates open much more so than the Bush administration.

And by the way, this was not a known fact, but back during the second term of the Bush administration, the Texas Republicans were really upset about the porousness of a sudden border. And so we had a private meeting with President Bush and Carl Rope. and we were complaining that it needed to be, you know, not closed but secured. And so the president asked Carl Rove to start meeting with us every two weeks, had given us a report on the efforts that were being made to secure the border. And by the time he left office and some guy named Obama took over, they were doing a much better job of securing the border. And then Obama came in and he opened the doors more widely.

But then it was nothing like what Biden did. But exactly what you're saying, it needs to be in the law. The things that President Trump has done with executive order, it needs to be put into law. Congressman, there was, I mean, how did the Supreme Court in your view? And by the way, I want to make sure that people understand your bona fides of the law. You are a former assistant district attorney, trial lawyer, district judge, chief justice of the Texas 12th Circuit Court of Appeals, and, of course, a member of the U.S. House Judiciary for 18 years. You know your stuff here.

How did they end up taking subject to the jurisdiction and, and, of full? officially invert its meaning because it was all done in the beginning from what I understand. I think even Justice Thomas had mentioned this. This was about strictly making sure that the slaves who had no

loyalty to any other country had been born here, actually citizens and should be citizens. How did we get this decision in your view? Well, it came from having a chief justice who sold his soul back in the Obamacare

decision to being an extremely political justice instead of just following the Constitution. That's what that's the real heart of it. That's what it really gets back to. And that's what he did in this decision. And so once you have determined who you are and what you are, then you go start trying to rationalize And Justice Thomas in his dissent and Alito in his dissent just rip apart the Roberts' majority opinion. And like Alito, he talks about a part of the opinion where Roberts goes through and tells the story about how we came from the British Congress. common law and how when you were born, you were a subject of the land where you were born.

And you got all the protections of that. And Toledo starts out with saying every step of his story is not true. Well, it's making it sound as if it was feudalistic, like we're a feudalistic society. Exactly. Exactly. And that's what Thomas and Alito point out. look, those were subjects. We fought a revolution to get away from that, and we are not under that law. We're not that subject. And here, even going back to the Wong case that the left keeps trying to cite in the late 1800s, that couple was domiciled in America. They were no longer subject to the jurisdiction of any country in Asia, China. They were subject to the jurisdiction only of the

United States. So when their child was born here, it was not wrong for the Supreme Court to say, yeah, that's a citizen. And another thing that Thomas, I'm sorry, Robert said was that the minority is trying to destroy 140 years of the minority. of law under the 14th Amendment. And Thomas just rips him up and goes, no, that's not 140 years of law. In fact, this has only been since 1940. And when I was in Congress, I wanted to know, look, this is a recent development under the 14th Amendment. when did the State Department start giving American citizen passports to babies born in the U.S. to illegal aliens?

Yeah, when did they do that, do you know? Yes. We asked the Congressional Research Service, and they do extraordinary research. And so they did the research, and they found, I wanted to know what was the executive order. was there a law passed? And you know what? There was no law passed. There was no executive order. They couldn't find a specific time. There was just some point in the State Department that somebody there decided, you know what, let's quit trying to track down mothers and fathers and seeing if they're citizens and seeing whether they meet the requirements of citizenship. that's just too much to do.

Let's just start giving every child born in America American citizenship status and a passport if they wanted. There was never anything. But it was like Thomas says, it was sometime after 1940, but nobody can say for sure when that was. Isn't that extraordinary? Boy, you know, Louis, that really, this was just a bureaucratic choice, in other words.

Exactly. And we don't even know who the bureaucrats were that did it or when they did it. It just, sometime after 1940, as Thomas said, sometime after that, they just started doing it. Former Congressman Louis Gomer, he's the former congressman, of course, currently the Senior Fellow for Political Statesmanship with the David Horowitz Freedom Center. I'm glad you're working with that organization. They do good work there. They do. Louis, I wanted to bring up various, some people are going out there in Congress right now in talking and doing their news interviews and they're saying things like that, well, there are ways that we can do this, we can pass a law. Others are saying, well, we would have to amend the Constitution again. Well, that's such a high lift. I doubt that would happen. Even passing a law about this could be a high lift in today's political climate.

What I'm curious about is one person brought up this, and I was intrigued by this theory that you could. could actually officially make sure or clarify the definition of subject to the jurisdiction. And you could actually do that in the congressional law. In your legal opinion, is that true or is it just a, you know, a hopium, so to speak, in the birthright citizenship argument? Well, see, the guys that put that language in there, starting with Senator Trumbull, They thought it was very clear. And if you go back to the debate and Thomas and Alito discussed this, but they thought it was very clear as it was.

And making it clear, if you come here and you're still a citizen somewhere else, you are not totally subject just to this jurisdiction. So even if I, this is my opinion, even if they changed the law and said subject to the jurisdiction hereof only means that you're a sub, that you have forsworn all allegiance to any other country, that somebody like Roberts could still say, no, we've already made that clear in a prior decision. you can't change a constitutional decision we've made with law. Okay, but the Constitution... I think the best thing... Okay, I'm sorry. We need to replace Robertses or replace one of the liberal justices, and that includes Amy Coney-Barritt.

What happened to Amy Coney-Barrant in your view? I was saying it back when it was happening. It happened to Kavanaugh and it happened to Barrett. The left has learned they come after them to the nail. They just go after their homes. They send messages. We're going to kill rape your children. We're going to do all these horrendous things.

They really subject them and their families to traumatic stress. And I really think that Amy Coney-Barritt and Kavanaugh and their families went through PTSD. I really do. And so there's two reasons, though, they go after them and make all the outrageous allegations they do. Number one, there's an outside chance. Maybe they give up and they don't go through. Or maybe they don't get the votes to go through. They figure that's a really slim chance.

two, they've seen it happen and happen over and over again with conservatives. They get on the court and they want to show those that came after them. Look, I want to show you. I'm not as crazy, you know, right wing as you thought I was. Yeah, yeah, please. Watch my rulings. What is it? Watch my rulings and so you won't kill me?

Is that the nation we are right now, Louis? Well, they want to placate them and they want to show, look, look, see, I'm not. not as crazy right wing, and it makes them move left just to placate those that thought that, you know, came after them so strongly. Yeah, I think that that made a difference the way they came after them. I think if they had just let them come on board and not gone after them and their families and subjected them to all the horrors they went through, I think you would have seen her come on board and have some extremely conservative decisions. I really do.

Former Congressman Louis Gomer with me this morning. Louis, I'm going to go down a conspiracy rabbit hole, and I don't know if you're comfortable with it or not, but I'll at least ask the question. I know Joel Scalzin, who's an interesting journalist from Utah, and he's worked the angle on World Affairs Brief. He's written this for a number of years. Plion Scalzins, I think, nephew, is what he was. So, you know, very much anti-communist kind of guy.

He has made the claim for years that nobody makes it up on the Supreme Court. or very few make it up onto the Supreme Court without them, in essence, being controlled. And so I want to ask you if maybe that is R. Roberts' problem that you're talking about, that there always has to be some kind of lever that unsavory actors can use when needed to make sure the right decisions come out, in scary air quotes. Any thoughts on that? I don't know. I don't go that far. You don't? I just, no, I just think, like with, and I talked to Justice Scalia about Roberts, but I don't, I don't think it goes that far.

I think Roberts' turning came with the Obamacare decision. And when I was... That's a totally incoherent decision he made. Totally. And it was so poorly written. And he's a very, very good writer. And clearly he changed his mind. in midstream. And I was saying, you know, clearly he changed his mind and he is such a good

writer and that was a poorly, poorly written decision. You know, what made him change his mind? And he said, well, you know, word came back to our inner sanctum that if we overturned Obamacare that millions and millions of Americans would die. And it would be all our fault. they die without their health care, and it would be all our fault. And Roberts would go down as the political chief justice since Taney wrote Red Scott. And I said, so how does that get to the intersankton? And he said, you know, I can't betray that kind of trust. And he said, but you can probably figure it out.

Well, of course I can. It was the Obama appointees. He never would say that. He wouldn't betray that trust. But, of course, you know, Obama contacts his appointees and says, make sure they know of Rob Roberts knows he'll be the most political appointee. And so everything he has done since then, line it up, you'll see he's trying to be, well, he's turned political to try to avoid being political.

He's become the most political chief justice we've had since Taney wrote Red Scott. And he did it here. He did it in the Obama Care decision. but this one, it's what one, well, use of praise from a former jurist, he's saying that the Constitution is a suicide pact, that they wrote it in the 14th Amendment in such a way that it says all our enemies can send their pregnant women here, have babies here, so that they can overwhelm us at some point and destroy our country. That's not what the writers of the 14th Amendment intended, and it's not what they wrote. And in Thomas's opinion, he puts down a bunch of the people, including Trumbull,

and they had great quotes that very clear. And also points to the fact that when you take an oath of citizenship, you have to disclaim. all all allegiances, right? All allegiances to any, and I love the potentate in there, you know, of any authority whatsoever, any country. And up to that point, you still do have those allegiances. And so you are still subject to the jurisdiction thereof of all those nations, leaders, dictators, potentates, until you take that oath and only subject to the jurisdiction of the United

States at that point. So it's a great point he makes. And so Roberts just tossed all that aside. He was very disingenuous in the things he wrote and said. And Roberts and Alito just blow him out of the water with their their opinions. All right. What do you believe then is the most attainable attack on the birthright citizenship decision that can be made, something which is, you know, pragmatic and practical, I guess in your view. What is attainable, you think, in today's political climate? Well, one is with executive order and number two, it could be a law pass where we restrict women coming over pregnant in the third trimaster, you know, and we make sure we make it a crime to set up any kind of birthright tourism.

President Trump, in his first term, and in his second term, they are going after those businesses and are doing a good job of shutting them down, but it needs to be in the law. And I would hope surely we could pass that kind of thing. Former Congressman and currently the Senior Fellow for Political Statesmanship with the David Horowitz Freedom Center, Congressman Louis Gomer. Congressman, a pleasure talking with you. Thanks for the analysis on this one. And I hope it's not three or four years before we talk again, all right? You'd be well. I hope so, too. I love talking to you. You have great analysis. Thanks so much. Thank you, Congressman. 757. This is KMED in 993 KBXG.

At Dusty's transmissions, they've expanded to cover a wide range of automotive repair. Pops bucket sale. What's on your bucket list? News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show. Fox News is coming up here on KMED and KMED HD1 Equal Point Medford, KBXG Grants Pass. We're also heard on translator, K294AS Ashland. That's at 1067 FM and at 1059 FM on K290AF Road River.

All right, hope you're doing well. It's going to be open phones and fun and frivolity for the rest of Find Your Phone Friday. The number here is 770-5633. We'll go to the phones here in the next few minutes. But I had mentioned this on the promo for today's show. And I know that there's a gentleman who wrote me yesterday, and he and I very much disagree on the flock cameras, the automated license plate readers.

And it was Duby. Yeah, it was Duby. Yeah, Duby had mentioned that he had mentioned that he, he disagrees with me and that I should have the police departments on to talk about, you know, all the good they do. I completely agree. I'm sure you can come up with reasons to be very good, but I wanted to go into more detail on why I am troubled by the growing acceptance in where people go, well, well, sure, you know, I've got nothing to hide, but where can things go wrong when you have what I think of as general warrants? I look at when you have automated license plate readers that are just keeping and tracking everybody and it's like what the British used to do, it's like it has cast a wide net.

Everyone is considered a suspect. And this information is held for quite some time too. And I think that's also important. And the flock company, of course, also makes money selling this data. And so much for your Fourth Amendment, you know, those sort of things. And I know they'll say, well, there's no Fourth Amendment right to search and seizure. I know, but the thing is, you can come up, you can create the dossiers on American people just by when and where they travel and keeping track of that. And we've never really had this kind of ability to just track everybody and just keep it in there.

Just by nature of you exerting your right to travel, you are in government databases. I think it's an issue. And I think it's worth talking about it. And I'd love to get your opinion on it. and maybe I'm just being, you know, foolish about this. But I wanted to go more deeply on that and get your opinion too. Not just me, but, you know, how are you feeling overall? What is your opinion about this?

I've touched a little bit on why I have an issue with automated license plate readers, but maybe you want to add to it and you think it's okay, all right? The point being, though, I think you'll usually be able to find sheriffs and police departments that are saying, hey, it's an amazing tool. I know. I have no doubt it's an amazing tool. But what do we give up in the process of using an amazing tool like this? What do you think?

I'll go to you coming up here in the next few minutes on the Bill Meyer show.