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Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Tom Zeller Jr. author of THE HEADACHE - science on a big malady. Joseph Rice from Jo Co GOP - Big Rock through the window, now what? Dr. Bonnor Conner from CFACT - cloud seeding and the Texas Floods

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon, well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clouser Drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. So looking forward to talking with Tom Zeller, Jr. He's a co-founder and editor in chief of UNDART. It's a nonprofit digital magazine exploring science and society. And before that, he was a reporter, columnist at New York Times,

an editor at large for National Geographic, and a Knight Science Journalism fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. So yeah, he's got some cred here, lives in Lolo, Montana. Lolo, Montana, is that a pretty small town here? Tom, welcome to the show. Great to have you on. It's a pretty small town. It's a pretty small town. It's just south of Missoula. Maybe people have heard of Missoula. Okay, we've heard of Missoula. No problem with this.

Now, you have written your first book now, and it's The Headache, The Science of a Most Confounding Affliction. And it sounds like you got interested in this because you used to have what you called suicide-inducing kind of headaches. And I have relatives that have had that, they've described it, you know, sitting all day on the on the couch with ice, ice towels on their on their forehead, things like that sometimes. And we kind of laugh about this sometime. Oh, you had a headache. Oh, wha wha wha goes a little deeper than that, though, right? How you doing? How you doing? It does. It does go deeper than that. Yeah, I have what the, I mean, they're technically called cluster headaches is the official term.

But you know, the word suicide headache is actually used in the scientific literature to describe these things because they are incredibly painful, often described. And I don't want to get into a debate over, you know, what is the worst pain in the world. But it's often up there in terms of being considered one of the things that a human being can experience. I liken it to the pain intensity of putting your hand on a hot burner on a stove but not being able to take it off. It's sort of firing at its peak right behind my eyeball and it's really something. Yeah, it knocks

you down. And is there a lot of research interest in this given that you say in the headache that it's faced by about 40% of the population at one point or another in their lifetime? Yeah, so there are lots of different flavors of headaches. So I'd say 40% of the population experiences some sort of headache disorder. A lot of them are what are known as tension type headaches, which are probably the most familiar kind of the primary headache disorders and those can often be treated with over-the-counter

medications and also ibuprofen, maybe some adjustments in lifestyle. But then there are smaller numbers, still something like a billion people planet wide have migraines, mostly women. These are well outside the reach of over-the-counter medications. These Tylenol would do nothing for them, and still rarer is my disorder called cluster headache. But taken all together, a heck of a lot of people on planet Earth have headaches sort of being

a major drag on their life in the best-case scenario and really, really being debilitating in the worst-case scenario. And yet we know very little about them. We have sort of been understudied and underfunded for a long time. Now, is a migraine headache, I've never really looked into the science of this and I figure you have, is when we hear about a migraine or a cluster headache is this a almost like a headache of the blood vessels shrinking or being distended or you know what are the different types and you know have they've gotten better at

figuring this out over the years? Yeah so I mean I think that that's the what most of us have learned or that we think about when when we think about having a really bad headache is that the blood vessels may be in the head somewhere, are getting engorged with blood and pressing up against the nerve and causing pain. But we're learning that that's probably not the case. It's not. Okay. There's not even really sort of conclusive evidence that the blood vessels have anything

to do with it all. It almost certainly is much more of a central nervous system disorder, some sort of conclusive evidence that the blood vessels have anything to do with it all. It almost certainly is much more of a central nervous system disorder, some sort of breakdown in sensory processing that along with a lot of other neurological symptoms results in great head pain. But the truth is we don't really truly know not only what starts them off but a lot of scientists will even disagree and I captured them arguing about this in the book. They don't really even agree on where the pain is coming from like they couldn't identify what part of the head or what part of the physiology inside your head is actually hurting. Yeah, well you know if the scientists can't even agree

where it's coming from, that probably makes it really tough to figure out how to treat it ultimately, doesn't it? Yeah. It really does. Yeah. I mean, things are getting a bit more sophisticated. I mean, up until just, I think it was 2018, all the drugs that were ever prescribed for a person suffering from migraine or cluster headache were drugs that were developed for other disorders.

So you would be taking, you might be given an antidepressant or an anti-epileptic medication or a steroid. Some other drug that was developed to treat some other disease but maybe seemed to kind of help your migraine headaches a little bit but not very well and have lots of nasty side effects. In 2018 they came out with a new series of drugs that block a certain neurotransmitter in the brain associated with pain, and it seems to have a high association with a migraine attack and a cluster attack,

and it seems to work really well for a lot of people. Not everyone, but definitely in recent years, getting more sophisticated, and I think that's what's starting to make scientists pay a little more attention, starting to make pharmaceutical companies pay a little more attention, that hey, there's something going on in there that's chemical, that's

neurological, that we can reach into and we can affect. So now they're on the hunt for even more consequential molecules. How has the National Institute of Health maybe looked at this or perhaps not looked at this over the years? Yeah, this is a complaint that I heard from a lot of scientists and from a lot of headache patients. And it was something that I wasn't fully aware of until I started researching the book, which is, you know, the National Institute of Health provides most of the money for, it's one of the largest science underwriters in the world, not just in the U.S. So what the NIH

takes an interest in and what the NIH provides money for really dictates what diseases are going to get the most attention. And relative to the burden, relative to the amount of cost that headaches have on economies, on people's lives in this way, it's tended to be rather underfunded by the National Institutes of Health. I don't know if that's going to change in coming years. It's hard to say. Everything is kind of in flux now. The NIH is being reorganized as we speak.

But historically, it is true that the National Institutes of Health have given short shrift to headache disorders. And this is not my argument. This is an argument made by scientists themselves. Alright, Tom Zeller Jr., author of The Headache, it is out tomorrow, the science of a most confounding affliction. Has anything worked for you over the years out of your cluster headaches that you talked about in specific? Yeah, I mean, you know, a group of medications called the Triptans came out in the 90s.

Those are pretty good, at least for me, they're going to work for everybody. They're pretty good at stopping a headache, an individual headache in its tracks. It's not good at preventing the next headache from coming, and you can't take it too much because it has other sort of implications. And so for a disorder like mine, it helped a little, but you know, you couldn't take it, and so the next headache would come, and the next next headache would come and it became kind of a vicious circle. The new CGRP blockers, those are the new fancy drugs that I talked about coming out just a few years ago, do seem to work for me. It's hard to say because for a lot of patients, they tend to stop working after a while.

So the jury's still out, but so far I think it's working for me. to stop working after a while. So the jury's still out, but so far I think it's working for me. From what I understand, there's even a look at, and this is a big treatment out here in the West Coast in Oregon, psilocybin, you know, the magic mushroom, so to speak. Are they looking at that for headaches too?

They are. There's a lot of research happening, mostly at the institutional level, nothing that's sort of, there are some clinical trials happening. I don't think there's a drug going to be on the market anytime soon, but they're definitely looking at it. I've tried it. It mostly got me high rather than curing my headaches, but I say anything that seems to work for you

is fine by me. I thought it was a really interesting read and I highly recommend this and it's one of those situations where, yeah, maybe only a billion people out of the seven or so, or eight or nine billion, however many we have, are suffering this. But it is very, very debilitating. And it's nothing to laugh at for those who get it. It's called The Headache, the science of a most confounding affliction. It is available for sale tomorrow. You can look this up at the usual places.

Tom Zeller Jr., we appreciate your take on it. Thanks so much for having joined the show. All right? Be well. Thanks. Thanks for having me on, Bill. You too. You bet.

It is 19 minutes after 7. This is KMED 993KBXG on the Bill Meyer Show. Hey, I think this is Tom. How are you doing, Tom? Welcome. I'm doing fine. I just wanted to say, you know, I deal with headaches all the time from, you know, an alternative point of view. Most commonly on the structural level, you have the occiput and the two upper cervical vertebrae. When they're out, you get a headache very commonly. Headaches can arise from a malfunction in the iliacicule valve, the liver, the gall

bladder. And he does talk about some of that bone adjustments that do tend to cause some pain issues in that too. Yeah, I get that for sure. But the thing is though, it can't all be... At this main point in time though, it still seems that the focus is mostly on which pill can we take to get rid of this. Yeah, it is.

It's a pharmaceutical approach and so forth. The toxicity issue is a big one with headaches. Do I have time to comment on Epstein files? Oh, sure. Go ahead. I'll give you a shot. Okay. You bet. I think the biggest thing that's going on with Epstein is the question is begging is

how much does the Mossad control our government? How much is Trump and all the legislators being blackmailed or influenced by that? And so it's a huge question, how much is Mossad controlling the United States? And here's one more point, too, I want to make, is that at 9-11, we all know about the Israelis on the rooftop with their camera out waiting for the towers to go down. They were, I think, arrested and put in jail for two months, then they were disappeared, you know, and just released and so forth. And that was a trail that should have been pursued to the very, very end. And now taking it to today then, are you kind of then, given that more people than not that

have looked into this are thinking that Epstein was most likely a Mossad operation at this point. Do you think this is one of those things where deference is being shown by the United States government towards, once again, our our friend in the Middle East? Absolutely. It's kind of interesting. The Premier came for a visit here and then all of a sudden the Epstein piles were no longer relevant, no longer important. And we're going to talk about a Nobel Peace Prize nomination. Okay. Yeah, all of that. And you know, and you have to look at, if there's nothing to it, you know, they said

move along, there's no questions there. Well, why did Epstein supposedly commit suicide on himself if there's nothing to it? Yeah, those are the sort of questions that a lot of mega folks are asking, Tom. I appreciate the call. Thanks for it. It's 722. We'll continue on the Bill Meyers show after the hand-hitting update. Your smile is the key to your health and confidence. Do you know that it is possible in a single day to replace a mouthful of bad teeth or ill-fitting dentures with a beautiful implant-supported smile? For so many of my patients, this has been a life-changing experience.

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Joseph Rice, the chair of the Josephine County Republican Party is on the program this morning. So Joseph, welcome back. And you had someone put a rock through your window over the weekend. Tell us what happened. Yeah, good morning Bill. Yes. Saturday morning, about 1 14 in the morning, we had a individual throw a very very large rock through the front window of the Republican headquarters in Josephine County. And it also is the district office of Senator Noah Robinson. All right. Anybody arrested? Anybody looked at here? And was there any reason given that we know of? Like someone was there, there's a security camera that says,

I hate you people in Boomer. Did they just want to throw a rock I don't know well yeah we spoke with the Grants Pass State Police they were very effective they do have a suspect in custody they were charging we'll probably know more today all of it was caught on video oh So fortunately we had a member of the Republican Party very generously donate, Jordan Morrison, donate some high definition cameras that we had put outside the building because we've seen, you know, we're directly across the courthouse and we had the No Kings rally and Antifa and everybody else is there. So naturally we

would kind of be a magnum type of targeted violence. So the cameras were up, they caught the entire act on camera, the individual throwing a rock through the window and then fleeing down the alley. And it sounds like the Grass-Bastay police were able to take him into custody. So today we'll see what the DA does. Okay, that'll be interesting. Is this something that has happened before? The reason I bring this up is that the Jackson County Republican Party had, you know, for a while just a slew of those attacks at its old headquarters downtown. Yeah, I can't say that we've had an issue like this before in Josephine County that I recall.

You know, the entire front window is a large picture window. It's probably five feet by 10 feet that the rock went through. You know, by the grace of God, nobody was inside the building at the time, obviously. But where it went through is a seating area, and there are chairs up against the window, and potentially a hip hit somebody. So, you know, we're seeing more and more of this targeted violence to conservatives as the progressive left continues to lose it. They don't like various things. Are you aware of any targeted violence against the Democratic Party headquarters in Southern Oregon, or is it only directed towards the Republican headquarters?

I've never heard of a Democratic Party headquarters in Southern Oregon being attacked. It just seems to be targeted to Republican, you know, conservative values at headquarters. Oh, okay. And it's disturbing because then, you know, as a conservative, you want to walk around exercising your rights, your liberties, your freedoms, but at what point do you get targeted? At what point do you remain safe? And then, you know, we see the state is very aggressively reducing our ability to defend ourselves.

What happens next here after the window gets replaced? Do we start putting bars on them? We're doing something? Are you just gonna move on? No, we're gonna move on. You know, we're not going to cower. We're not going to do shelter in place. We're not going to do all of those little key buzzwords. We're going to move on. You know, we're not going to cower. We're not going to shelter in place. We're not going to do all of those little key buzzwords. We're going to stand proud. We are conservatives of the Josephine County Republican Party. We will fix the window.

We are going to find out today what that will cost. I imagine we probably have a few thousand dollars of expense to replace that. And then we'll move on. But we're not going to turn it into a bunker. There's absolutely no reason for that. We want that Republican headquarters to be open and welcoming. People are more than welcome to come and visit, find out what we're doing and the message that we're spreading through Southern Oregon.

But it definitely is not one of political hate. Joseph Rice, once again, he's the chair of the Josephine County Republicans. And out of curiosity, do your cameras have audio on them? I can't answer that, Bill. Oh, okay. All right. The reason I was wondering, I would have been, I would have loved to have known if this, if this alleged attacker, well, it's not alleged attacker, the person's on video, caught dead to rights doing it, was like screaming something like, you fascist! You know, what we always hear

from the so-called other side on such matters about this. Who's wondered? Well, yeah, when they had the No Kings rally across the street, it was pretty shocking. Some of the things are being said and displayed. We had another rally where I was pushing back and one of them had the audacity to come up and smash me in the face with their sign in their peaceful protest. Took a chunk out of my lip and I actually had to go get medical care for it. So yeah, that's the peaceful left. That's the ones that are out there that know better how to run our lives than we do and the tolerance doesn't seem to exist at all. Well tolerance as long as you absolutely agree with them

Lick Spittle. Okay, so there we go. Final question here. There was interesting, how did this suspect identify and I think this may speak to some Some issues, how do they identify themselves? So when I met with law enforcement on Saturday, they identified as a them a them Okay them so and Okay, it would the question that comes to mind, which one of them will be on trial if the DA chooses to move forward with this? Well, yeah, and that is a concern. I mean, we view this as a hate crime. It was targeted

to a political office, housing a state senator, and this is one of the problems that we see with Governor Kotec and her soft-on crime. She turns a blind eye. She would call this a peaceful protest. It's violent. And there needs to be some accountability. And we are hoping that the district attorney who historically has not really prosecuted property crimes steps up on this. I am the vice chair of the Josephine County Budget Committee as an additional service I provide the community, and we protected the DA's budget. We protected the sheriff's budget. The number one rule and responsibility of government is protection of the citizen.

So in protecting that DA's budget, we do hope to see him act and charge what he can on this. We would actually like to see this elevated to a what he can on this. We would actually like to see this elevated to a federal hate crime. We need to put a stop to this type of violence. People should feel safe in their own communities. Joseph Rice is the chair of the Josephine County Republican Party and we appreciate you coming on. And keep us in the room on that one, Joseph.

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You know, there's been a lot of, I guess, kind of rumblings behind the scene of what was going on over in Texas. Once again, the Texas floods. We were talking about that a bit last week when it comes to climate change and being blamed for a supposed increase in Texas floods, and you pretty much put that to rest. We could have a discussion about what's going on with notifications or maybe improving the warning systems there, and I think that's where we kind of left it off. But now there seems to be, they're going after somebody who was doing some cloud seating, not too far from that area.

Is that what happened? And so you wanted to speak out on that? Yes, there's been a lot of discussion about that. First of all, quickly to cloud seating, this is not a new technology. It's been around in one form or another since the mid-1940s. What it does is in arid areas subject to droughts, sometimes severe droughts, there is a technology available that allows small plains to sprinkle particles of what they mostly use is silver iodide into clouds and that can actually enable a cloud to produce whatever is

needed either rain or snow, albeit not in large amounts. Some farmers facing severe droughts have decided why not, it's not going to rain anytime soon, so they employ this technology. It was in fact used in the area of the Texas Hill Country a couple of days before the floods struck that area. However, let's bear in mind that cloud seeding is very local in nature and the amount of precipitation that is produced is actually very minor. The notion that that horrible flood, which entailed 15 inches of rainfall within a very short period of time, was in any way caused by cloud seeding that had gone on two days earlier, simply without merit. I think anytime you have a disaster like this, you have finger pointing,

blame game comes on. Could this have been the cause? And I think the answer is a resounding no. Now, didn't the guy that was doing the cloud seeding get death threats from what I recall, you know, after this? Like we're coming after you? Oh, yes. He has been vilified, all the internet by a bunch of people from whom it can safely be said really don't know what they're talking about. He runs a company in California, in El Segundo, California. It's called Rainmaker. He has clients. He's been doing this for some time, even though it's a relatively new business for him. But what brought on this flood was a tropical storm named Barry, which dumped an incredible

amount of rainfall in the Texas Hill Country in a very short period of time. You have the unusual topography of that area that enables it to be called flash flood alley because these things are actually quite common there, albeit usually not nearly as catastrophic as it was two weeks ago. I would add cloud seeding comes into the rubric of geoengineering and it's a relatively benign form of geoengineering and certainly cannot in any way be blamed for what happened in Texas two weeks ago. However, there are other aspects of geoengineering that we should be very careful about. Namely, they are companies, one of which has as an investor, one Bill Gates, the co-founder

of Microsoft. The goal of that company is to suck carbon dioxide, CO2, out of the atmosphere. This is being done as a way to combat what we are told is human-caused climate change. That is very dangerous stuff. Here you're playing with the entire system. You're also solving a problem that demonstrably does not exist and can do a tremendous amount of harm because once you reduce the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, you are putting agriculture at risk because crops need CO2 to grow, as do plants. By the way, humans, animals, everybody needs CO2, and our CO2 levels, contrary to what some people may have read, are actually not too high.

They could stand to be somewhat higher. Yeah, I also understand that that Bates fellow, the Bates group that was looking at this, was also talking about, wasn't it spraying, was it sulfur oxide particles into the... Silver dioxide. Silver dioxide, okay. Not an everyday term, but that's what is used to induce precipitation of where there are already clouds. Okay. Now I know that the Rogue Valley International Airport here, sometimes when we have really intense ground fog, they will not go away. We will at times save the clouds in

order to cause the fog clouds to just kind of put out a little bit of that light snow, grapple, or whatever you call it, and try to get the fog down. But that's not the same as Bill Gates wanting to dim the sun. No, not at all. The cloud seeding is practiced in the United States. By the way, there are 39 countries in the world that have various forms of cloud seeding. That includes Saudi Arabia and China. So this is something that's reasonably well dispersed, and it's done in countries that are subject to droughts, or at least parts of which, which is most

certainly the case in Saudi Arabia, which is a desert. Actually China has a long history of droughts, also of droughts and floods. When it rains, it pours. When it doesn't rain, it can be a situation where you'll have a drought that will go on for an extended period of time. So the technology is actually reasonably widely dispersed. Cloud seeding relatively benign. What Bill Gates is talking about is a horse of a different color. All right, very good. Dr. Bonner Collin, PhD once again, Senior Policy Analyst at the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow. That is

CFACT.org, great group, and I appreciate your additional information and take on it from last week. Oh I appreciate the opportunity for the interview really important. Thank you doctor. Thank you. 745 at KMED 993 KBXG we have a little bit of open phone time until we're past meets present with Dr. Dennis Powers retired professor of business law at Southern Oregon University. So we go through history and beyond and, oh gosh, I forgot to ask Dr. Connor, maybe I'll just have to give him an email maybe for next time having focused on this one, but an Oklahoma City television station ended up getting their radar attacked by a so-called militia group, you know, put it in scary air quotes, saying that they're using the radar to

control weather. Maybe that'll be Dr. Cohen's next op-ed. But yeah, they actually went after the TV station's Doppler weather radar deal on top of the roof apparently and did some serious damage. I was reading that in my broadcast engineering group over the weekend and yeah yeah. Now, LaCrescia has called in about that right? Now, I don't think we have any weather control going on at the Doppler radar up there on Mount Ashland, but of course, stranger things. Stranger things have happened, right? Freddy's Diner has a great menu, but there can be a downside I'm thinking a sandwich, but there's so many the Philly BLT. Oh crispy chicken bacon with avocado

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This is tough work. It's hot. They're in the mud. There have been some 850 rescues. And what role should politics play? The Trump administration is making deep cuts to weather forecasts. We have to look at the Doge Trump cuts. Join the debate.

What happened? Why did it happen? On News Talk 106.3 KMED. Good morning. This is News Talk 106.3 K? Why did it happen? On News Talk 1063 KMED. Good morning. This is News Talk 1063 KMED and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show. Yeah, one of the listeners has their own theme. Hello, Lucretia. You disagree with Dr. Conner or disagreeing with me on Doppler radar? What do you say? Yeah, it's interesting.'s interesting. I called up on Friday saying when I saw when they dropped the red fire retardant that it caused the fire to basically explode and all

of a sudden trees were burning 30-40 feet high. Yeah, well I had no idea when that number 10 tanker shows up here that they're getting they're filled up with red fire retardant that actually creates fire? Yeah well it was interesting because my friend say... I'm teasing you, you know that right? Yeah. Okay. Well so anyway we looked up what was in fire retardant because he believed it used to be you know seed and everything to regrow the forest as well with the dropings. But it turns out it has everything from thallium, which is a poisonous poison, to arsenic, lead, cadmium, unbelievable stuff.

When we're trying to figure out, we know baking soda, he used to have people come in the, you know, like students and stuff. If you ever have a grief fire, the best thing to use is baking soda. It'll put it out. Problem is probably when you're out in the country like that and the wind is blow away, so you could probably add polymers. Yeah, it has to be something if they add something to it to give it some heft in order to, A, survive the trip down and then smother the fire once it gets there, right? That was that. And another girl saw the same thing I did. It was one they dropped out. Said it was just going to explode. And where they dropped it would explode.

That was weird. But the lady I mentioned the other day, her name is Tracy Darwin, but the site is Brush, B-R-U-S-H Junkie. She's incredible. And she shows there's all these other companies even to buy the practices rain making over here are practices. So we also have the- What's wrong with practicing rain making,

you know, in arid areas like that? Well, number one, she also goes through exactly how much this one company that's tied in. Oh, God, I forget who it's tied into, but it's from the top. About making money and the money that they could be making by doing this, it's a huge business industry. Well, why does that make it bad? You see, I don't see the problem.

Silver iodide cloud seeding has been going on forever. Almost a hundred years here, Lucretia. Yeah, she had a report of one guy saying, oh, it's just 10 times more toxic than aspirin, but saying it just dropped a handful. They dropped 705 pounds alone last year. Okay. What, of silver iodide? Yes.

Okay. I just want to make sure we're not talking about fire retardant versus silver iodide, okay. Yeah, well, over there, but on top of that, there's all these other companies that are going to Texas, and then we have the Doppler radar showing that they drove the, it's kind of like- You know, you see, you're going, now you're going off the rails into your nonsense.

We're showing the Doppler radar. The Doppler radar you're implying is moving the storm, is what you folks have been saying. Right? And they're having you read in the patents. That's how they control hurricanes and move the hurricanes. Okay, all right. Well, all I can say is let's move hurricanes over to our enemies then instead of on our coastal areas. 1959, Walt Disney had a science-factual presentation. They're mostly science fiction. They literally said it's very beginning science-factual,

and they credit the military, the US Marines, Navy, and Air Force for it, and they talked about ways they would move the hurricanes away. Okay, well then all you have to do, Lucretia, at this point then, support all the Doge cuts, defund the military and then the military and the CIA. Well, I'm actually probably defund the CIA first, because if there was anyone that was doing the weather for nefarious purposes, it would most likely be that group. Would you agree with me on that? Right.

They would never try to kill us with a biological, you know, bio-weapon like COVID-19. All right. Defund it all, Lucretia. Defund it. They would never do that, would they, Bill? I don't know. Well, I can't say that because there are evil hearts within the seat of power. We know that. Not all, but there are many. Alright, Lucretia. Alright, Lucretia.

Now, I had a guest earlier this hour talking about the headache. I don't want you giving me a headache then, okay? But what if one heart's worse? No, no, no. I got to go. I don't want you giving me a headache then. Okay so no no no I gotta go I gotta go. Gordon McDowell said they don't need me on a bum. They'll use covert weather warfare. Read his own document. I've sent that to you probably 20 times. All right yep and I'm sure you'll send it to me 21 times too. I appreciate your call. Okay. All right. I'm going to center myself just a little bit. Now, I love Lucretia. I really do. And I'm good. You know, I look at Lucretia kind of the same way I look at Alex Jones. If even 10% of it is right, that's serious.

Okay? That's kind of the way I look at it. Lucretia, God love you. You know, if you're in front of me, I'd put the little a heat lamp from the old touch by an angel series Lucretia God loves you But yeah, I can only I can take it in Certain doses. Okay Speaking of it. Let's do some emails of the day emails of the day and those are sponsored by dr Steve Nelson central point family dentistry, by the way, he got me a crown the other day put it on there It fits great. It looks good. It's not even sensitive to hotter cold or anything Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry. By the way, he got me a crown the other day. Put it on there. It fits great.

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And it's on Freeman Way, right next to the Mazatlan Mexican Restaurant. Okay. Tony writes to me this morning, Hey Bill, the airport hasn't fog-seated for about 10 years now. I think your info is out of date. Thanks. Okay, they haven't seeded for 10 years. Does it mean that they haven't done it? That's why I'm getting that the technology has been used here in Southern Oregon.

And you're right, Tony, they may not have done it for a decade, but it has to be of a certain type of fog cloud apparently or fog in order to Get it open. I remember they would do that and then the roads would get really slippery around the airport as the Moisture was coming out of the fog Betty writes me bill over 30 years ago. I went to a neurologist. He said don't eat food with food preventatives. This is about the headache kind of deal. Just read the labels and don't eat unless it's free of preservatives. Read all the labels. It does work. Thank you. We have DG Racer saying, hey Bill, thought for the day. Do you ever wonder if a regular dog sees a police dog?

Does he say, oh no, it's a cop keep holding them accountable all right let me move on to Randy Randy and Ashland says hey Bill failure to release the promised Epstein files has created a rift among MAGA supporters it's unacceptable to make promises of disclosure and then claim there's nothing to disclose everyone knows that's a lie Bill too many trustworthy people have admitted seeing the list and if Trump has nothing to hide, he should release the list. If he has something to hide, he's in trouble. His broken promise will affect the midterm elections. Democrats have as much to lose as Republicans if the list is made public. You know, Randy, I'll agree with you on

that one. To me, this is probably a bipartisan weapon of what he used to call it the mad weapons, mutually assured destruction. Maybe that's what's going on here. As long as it remains secret, Randy writes, Republicans are the only losers. This is no time to play Lucy with the football. MAGA supporters are angry about the lack of transparency. Perhaps Trump or his offspring are on the list. Too bad.

Lying about it is worse than telling the truth. John writes me about farm laborers. We were talking about that last week, Bill. I think it would be rise for the Democrats and Republicans to revisit the Bracero Program instituted post-World War II. It provided needed farm labor for planting and for harvesting a variety of crops. It had some problems but seemed to work pretty well, meeting the needs of U.S. and Mexico." That's from John the curmudgeon. All right, John, I appreciate that. Hans Albuquerque writes me, Bill, it seems Eric Peters may be clamoring for a position in DeSantis's cabinet. The free governor is openly discussing eliminating property taxes and or enforcing massive

valuation exemptions. Obviously he reads Eric's site. Folks then worry about free school. Well if you save five to ten thousand dollars a year on property tax maybe you could invest in your own kid instead of relying on your neighbor's money. And if there's any virtue left in landlords they should adjust rent downward as a result as well so renters could apply the extra income toward their own kids' education. It's a crazy conspiracy. Adults paying for their own kids' education? Government Ed having to run itself like a business? Say it ain't so. Hans Albuquerque, Hans, I appreciate you writing.

And Brent says, Bill, change your schedule. When I moved home in 2018, I started listening to your show pretty much religiously. I've had your station on pretty much without exception for 14 to 16 hours a day since then, much to my wife's dismay. Local news has really been in my thing. Seems like the right progression,

the way the shows were scheduled. I started out with you and progressed through the day and eventually usually ending with ground Zero or Coast to Coast. To be blunt, it was least favorite to favorite, so it just got better all day long, but things have changed over the years. I'm finding myself let down. I think a scheduling change is in order. I'm going to need you to switch to evenings because if you're going to continue to do such a great job and have exceptional shows like you did today, it must have been last week, right? Right, Brent? You're gonna have to change to evenings, otherwise I'm starting out with a crescendo. You're screwing me

up here, Bill. In all seriousness, thanks for everything you do, Bill. Glad you decided to make your stand here. But anyway, Brent, that's very kind. It's very funny, too. And I appreciate funny and kind. The email bill at BillMeyersShow.com and we will continue.