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Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Former Fed prosecutor John Deaton talks the Epstein files and controversy, State Rep. Dwayne Yunker announces his re-election, talks the end of the session, special session for ODOT, probably end of September.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. So great to have John Deaton on with me. John Deaton is a former federal prosecutor, former US Marine. Of course, I don't know, is there any such thing as a former US Marine, John? Isn't that right?

No, Bill. I'm a Marine through and through, brother. That's what I thought. Okay. All right. I just thought I would correct myself before we went forward. Okay. And you are also a 2024 GOP Massachusetts US Senate nominee. Oh boy, that must have been fun. Running as a Republican in Massachusetts. How did that go, by the way? You know, I got beat by Elizabeth Warren by 20 points, but Massachusetts is so crazy. My phone blew up the next day. You did great, you did great. I'm like, I got my butt kicked by 20 points, but I was the first Republican to get over 40% in 30 years for U.S. Senate.

And I was a no-name candidate going against the darling of the progressives and Senator Warren. And so it's relative. Massachusetts is very tough for Republicans. But the good news, Bill, is that they went so... It's not good news, but the reality is they went so far left that Massachusetts, I think, is waking up. You know, it was the second best state that President Trump improved over 2020. No kidding.

And so, yeah, and I did well for a no-name candidate going up against her. And so, you know, we're making progress. It's tough though. Well, John, you know, the one thing you probably missed that you didn't do is that you didn't do a YouTube video in your kitchen in which you're going, we're going to have a beer. Yep. Where I thank my spouse for coming, I thought it was his kitchen too. I'll always remember that.

Well, I'm glad that there's some progress being made in cracking the blue code, so to speak, over in that state for sure. I wanted to get your take, especially as a former federal prosecutor, on what's been going on, this schism that's been developing. I understand both points of view. I really do, but it has to do with last week's announcement with Bondi with the Epstein memo and nothing to see move along, President Trump being very defensive about this and saying, why are you people talking about it? We had the most perfect administration ever. And it's like there's a pretty good portion of MAGA that is not obeying the marching orders, I guess, at this point.

Would that be fair to say what's going on? Yeah, it is. And I do think that President Trump is going to probably need to address this again at some point, because I don't think that people are prepared to just let it go. You know, Bill, I brought this up on the debate stage with Elizabeth Warren because JPMorgan Chase settled with Epstein victims for $290 million and also settled for $75 million for the U.S. Virgin Islands over financing the whole Epstein operation. And I brought up to Elizabeth Warren that she had Jamie Dimon for questioning and she didn't ask one question

About the largest sex trafficking operation in American history. She asked him about you know nonsense and It was and I accused her of it because her donors and and a former president Was on the island and they just want to cover it up and people don't want a two-tier justice and they want transparency and so It's just ironic that you know, it's written this issue is raised its head again I had mentioned the JP Morgan Chase settlement to John and the point being it wasn't as if this was being done in a vacuum Or that I mean here it is. You have these financial transactions These are the perps or potential perps, right? Isn't that what we're talking about there, when you're looking at it from the legal standpoint? Absolutely. There's one

fellow named Jeff Staley. He was a vice president of JP Morgan Chase and he's got direct emails with Epstein where Epstein says, you know, how's you like your Snow White experience and which princess do you want next? And he says, Belle from Beauty and the Beast. And really troubling, disturbing, you know, emails. And so there are people out there that we know that helped him. And so, you know, it really just comes down to transparency and a two tiered justice system. And you know, I really don't think we're going to, people are going to let it go just like that quick. transparency in a two-tiered justice system.

I really don't think people are going to let it go just that quick. Okay. Now, there's, and yet at the same time, there's arguably some really good developments coming out of the Trump administration right now. We're starting to see some more, as they would call, winning going on. I understand why there is wanting to be a spin. I'm just kind of curious if you're thinking thinking there are some victims, there was one victim, I forget who it was on X, that was saying that if the truth of this came out, that it would break

the brains of America. I don't know if you're familiar, if you heard that one. Would you agree with that? Do you think that, you know, the rot and the perversion goes so deep that people wouldn't be willing to take it like we couldn't handle the truth? I mean, I don't know. I think some of that seems extreme. But I do believe that there are significant individuals who participate. When I say participate, they were at least in business with Epstein, high-profile members, politicians, members of Congress, who probably names are out there. And to be fair, and I'm like you, I see both sides. I mean, certainly someone's name who did a business with Epstein, who never was on the

island and who never did anything wrong, they don't want their name out because they'll be associated with pedophilia or something. Yeah, yeah, tarring guilt through association when you could be absolutely innocent. I understand that part about it, but do you let everybody else go because of concern about that? No, I don't. And so that's why I think that, you know, there's going to be, and there's rumors now that you have people like Charlie Kirk and others out there in the conservative movement saying that the administration is working on addressing the issue again. And

so I think, but you're right, listen, I understand President Trump saying wait a minute, you know illegal cross border crossings down 93 percent Businesses are investing trillions of dollars in American manufacturing. I mean, there's so many good things happening So I certainly understand. Hey, we're tackling in face inflation The tariffs are not raising inflation like so many of the pundits said. Look at this, we have a surplus for the first time on trade. So there are good things, but you know people I think are gonna hang on to this a little bit longer. All right. How do you think that he could, he being President Trump, could

address something like this, John, in a way that would be satisfying? In fact, I would almost say that even if you came out there and said, hey, I got to tell you the national security implications are too hot, we can't do this, you know, we can't really do this, you know, out in the open or something like that, it would be more satisfying than saying nothing happened and there's no list, right? Right. I think so. If I were advising President Trump, I'd say, listen, assign a special prosecutor counsel, but give it on a short lease, you know, six months. That person can redact all the names of people that need to be redacted, produce whatever evidence there is. And then President Trump comes out and addresses what you just said. Listen, there are reasons that we can't give you everything, and that's just the way it

is, but this is all the information that we can release. And I think that would satisfy. But when you say, you know, there isn't a list, but if there is, you can't trust the list. That kind of inconsistency is, I think, is putting fuel on the fire. Yeah. And the thing is, though, is that I recall Cash Patel telling talk show host Glenn Beck that the FBI director, that would be Cash Patel, has direct control of Epstein's address book. And to me, that's pretty much damning right then, isn't it? It is.

And we've got to remember a U.S. attorney who gave him his sweetheart plea deal, told individuals in Congress that he gave that deal because he was told to do it by higher up in the Department of Justice because F.D. had connections to Intel. You have all that stuff out there. There's just enough information out there that does not make this a wild conspiracy. Maybe he did hang himself. A lot of people doubt that. But maybe he did. But when you release the tape that has clearly been doctored... Oh yeah, it has one minute of it missing, and now they say

it's made uneven and have been on Epstein's cell, well, people are going to talk, I guess. Right, John? That's right. And then when you have Gissell saying he would never commit suicide, you have Epstein's brother saying he would never commit suicide, you have a, I prosecuted a strangulation case and there's certain bones in your neck that normally under like a hanging with a sheet normally would not fracture and the fracture is more consistent with manual strangulation. It's not conclusive, but there's just all this stuff out there that to say, okay, never mind or psych, we're not going to talk about this anymore. I just think it's the one time that President Trump, who's had the best political instincts

in modern history of anyone, I think this is the one time he may have read the room wrong or just got bad advice. I think the other aspect of this is that, especially when you're talking about intelligence being involved in this, one of the concerns that we've all had over the United States over the last 30, 40, 50 years of being essentially a national security state. That's really what we have been going down to. Almost a semi-post-constitutional order. I don't want to put too fine of a point on it. It's what it's felt like.

All you had to do is say, well, it's national security or it's government intelligence and you're just supposed to shut up, not ask any questions and go away. There are very, very powerful forces that must be at work. And well, you know, think of, you know, they didn't want anything happening with Epstein. They didn't really want this prosecuted. And the part that always sounded wrong about Epstein committing suicide here, John, is that it's obvious that the deeply embedded power structure of Washington DC or the United States and the world for that matter was probably going to make sure

that he would have won that trial even if there had been a trial at this point. So I don't think that Epstein was even worried about that kind of stuff. Do you? No, and you know when you're dealing with a level of narcissism like his, he got out of it the first time. There's a guy like that thinks he's untouchable. There's so many questions like his wealth. He went from a high school teacher to having several jets and an island,

and no one can really explain how he was a billionaire. There's just so many unanswered questions. But it took 64 years, Bill, for American people to learn that Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA operative, and the CIA was involved. I don't think people want to wait 60 years to find out what connection of any did Epstein have. And the feeling here now, I think that he even bragged about having been, he himself, Epstein bragged about having been a Mossad operative. That's what he said. But of course, you know, anybody can

say anything. But I have to say that, you know, Mossad CIA, it's kind of straight out of the honeypot playbook, isn't it? What was going on here? It is, you know, and we have to question it. But, you just sale Maxwell has said publicly now or she's gotten the word out that she's willing You know to testify to what she knows and names. That's why I think that a special counsel interviewing her Videotaping a deposition or whatever, and then doing a very quick

investigation, take it out of Pam Bondi's hands, and then report back to the president six months from now. I think that would give a buffer and we can get back to President Trump wanting to focus on a pretty successful first six months. Yeah, I would agree with you on that one. John Deaton with me once again. You can find out more about him. John Deaton won on X is where you can find out everything about John Deaton here. And as a former federal prosecutor, when it comes to the statute of limitations, the kind of crimes which are

being accused here, sex trafficking, you know, sex abuse, abuse of a minor, all these kind of things, using children for sexual purposes. What kind of statutes are on something like that? And is that another issue where people are hoping this just goes away because maybe we're past the ability to do anything? Well, many stat statues can be triggered by what's called a discovery rule when the person discovers,

even though it's many, many years later, that they have a time. And even if criminal statutes have passed, and many no doubt have, as far as sexual abuse charges, there are civil statutes like the one in New York that allowed JP Morgan to be sued. So these people could be held responsible, at least civilly as well. So hopefully these victims see something not be swept under the carpet. In other words, the statutes can be pierced,

in other words, right? Statute of limitations here. Now with that JP Morgan case, I haven't looked too deeply into that. Were all the records sealed? Is that what happened? Or not? Yes, they pretty much were sealed. You can get the complaint. There's a 75 page complaint and you can see docket entries, but getting your hands on

the email that I referenced between this daly fellow who was a vice president in Epstein, that's not available to the public. Because hiding in all of that, in that case, all of those settlement agreements there are a whole bunch of perverts. Not all, but there have to be... You can't tell me that there are none there, John. No, there's not. And when you listen and read the complaint, it talks about Epstein, that you can't pull off an operation like this without help. And it's not just to sell Maxwell as the help. You have finance people, you have people who are brokering

Deals for you and again you have this and that the truth is we have you know We know from the flight logs that high up. We you know Bill Clinton Was on the island several times Bill Gates 20 plus times was on the island of 20 plus times was on the island, connections to the Clinton Foundation. And I'm not just throwing those out there. These are documented where this fella had access to some of the most powerful people in the world. And I would imagine it's not just Democrats, right?

You know there has to be equal opportunity on this. Oh, there's no doubt in my mind. There's no doubt in my mind because, you know, rumor has it now that there are Republican members of Congress who are taking steps to block Juscel Maxwell from ever testifying. And, you know, Dick Durbin, who's a Democrat, he was in charge of the committee that oversees the FBI.

He could have subpoenaed the records and released the records to the public and he refused to. And of course now today he's out there saying yeah release it because he's confident that they won't. And so that's the kind of disgust of politics that gets the American people so disgusted. All, so Barry, this case is something that there is bipartisan support depending on who's in power. Yeah, all right. Yeah, the most bipartisan thing we see happening in Congress today. How about that? Yeah, I like that. John, I appreciate it. Hey, before we take off,

are you gonna run again for political office in Massachusetts? Maybe go after something different other than Elizabeth Warren? What say you? Well, I'm thinking about it. A poll came out in February that showed that I could beat Ed Markey. Just for everybody to know, he's been there 50 years. When Ed Markey first went to Washington, I was nine years old and I'm not a young man. So he's been there 50 years. He's as far left as you get. He co-authored the Green New Deal, believes that, you know, biological boys should compete

against girls and we should give amnesty to all, you know, 20 million illegals or how many ever there are. I'm flirting with the idea. We'll see. I just want there to be a path to victory. I appreciate that. John, great to have you on. Keep us in the room because I'd love to find out if you're going to run. That'd be great news if you do. I appreciate you, Bill. Thank you so much. And maybe just move out to Oregon. Maybe you can give Tina Kotech a run for her money, okay? All right. Take care. John Deaton won on X, is his X handle there. And John Deaton, of course, is a US

Marine veteran, cancer survivor, father of three daughters, ran against Elizabeth Warren, did a great job and did his best. We'll have you back. 728 on KMED. We're here with Mal Sanford, who's a longtime customer of Clauser Drilling. I actually had them drill my first well in 1976. Check in with us for monthly incentives to save on suppressors too. Come see the suppressor experts. Wellburn's weapons on Crater Lake Highway, just south of White City. It's the Bill Meyer show on KMED, Southern Oregon's place to talk.

Dwight Yonkers is going to join me here in about five minutes. I'm looking forward to that. I want to do some emails of the day. Some great stuff coming my way here. Emails of the day are sponsored by Central Point Family Dentistry and Dr. Nelson. It's on Freeman Way right next to the Mazatlan Mexican restaurant in Central Point. And CPFD does a lot of aesthetic cases to transform your teeth to help you feel comfortable and happy to smile in front of your family and friends, whether it's replacing that missing tooth or doing a total mouth makeover. Now, if you're wanting a whiter smile through conservative treatment, Steve Nelson, Dr. Steve, sells professional-grade whitening kits that last

longer than those bought over the counter, from whitening your teeth to crown work, which is what I had done last week. Check it out CentralPointfamilydentistry.com. Matt writes me this morning, Dr. Powers is right Bill the other day. There are more important issues than Epstein with the nation on the line. Those are criminal cases. Let the victims press charges and the process can play out in court. It should never have made it onto any president's desk. Trump is trying to save a nation. He shouldn't be bothered with any of this. Now, I've heard all the reasons for or why an Epstein cover-up matters. I heard your point about

who is running the country, the voters or someone else, and I agree, but this has to be handled later after Trump has cemented more important policies into law. My brother crashed hard into a mountain bike a few months ago. He flipped and he landed on his back and he's 68 years old and a real physical specimen. The trauma released some chemical enzymes into his body. His kidneys started to fail. He was unable to process the toxins. It was looking bleak. He never gave up on his back to exercising, but his kidneys will never be back to full function. And Matt continues, I tell this story to make

this point. We've been heading down the drain as a nation for a hundred years. It will take a Trump miracle to turn this around in the time he has. But if he can turn this nation around, there are going to be some leftover scars. Epstein, for example. We can't worry about the scars. We must move forward quickly. We can't worry about the scars. We must move forward quickly. We must keep Trump and Republicans in power for as long as possible. Steve Bannon is teeing me off, too. His asinine comments about losing 10% of MAGA because of Epstein triggering a 40-seat loss in the House isn't helpful. He was the same a-hole who predicted 100 seats for 100 years in 2020. When it wasn't shaping up,

he changed to 50 seats for 50 years. Red wave anyone? Nope. He should shut his yap and stay the course. He was also a big Matt Gaetz guy. Oops. Matt, I appreciate you writing on this one. Meanwhile, Carl writes me, Bill, kind of in reaction to how the Trump administration reacted to this and says, Bill, this is stupidity beyond how the Trump administration reacted to this, it says, Bill, this is stupidity beyond anything I ever imagined Trump could commit. We're dealing with human nature here, and human nature is a constant, much to the chagrin of liberals who think human nature can be changed. That is why liberals think communism and socialism will work if it's done the right way.

Why the MAGA revolt is a surprise to Trump escapes me, because Trump promised to drain the swamp and do away with the two-tiered justice system we suffered under Biden. Trump also promised to be completely transparent. Well, forwarded expectations tend to bring out the ire in people. So how was this reaction unexpected? It was absolutely predictable. Take care. Thank you, Carl, for writing. I appreciate that. Butch writes in about Oregon Department

of Transportation. Bill, I live in the Rogue Valley. Quite often as I go into town, I pass a no-dot employee snoozing in his truck. His job is to provide roadside assistance on I-5. If there's one down here, there must be more throughout the state. I'm guessing one more in Roseburg, Eugene, Springfield, Albany, Salem, Portland, maybe Pendleton.

If it's covered 24-7, I guess that's 20 folks doing this for the whole state. 10 trucks, 100,000 apiece, 20 employees, $100,000 a year with bennies, 3 million for a service taxpayers should not be providing. I would love to be on a committee to trim the no-dot budget. For 18 years I tried to work there, but I got tired of the waste. Poor management and the worthless union. Butch in Gold Hill. Butch, I appreciate you writing. Richard weighs in on the seeding cloud talk. Bill, I heard you talking with someone about seeding clouds to get some rain and clear out fog. That was correct, but sulfur dioxide has

been proposed as a way to deal with global warming, also known as climate change. In fact, some mental midgets in California were filling large balloons with helium and sulfur dioxide, sending them up into the upper atmosphere. When the balloons reach a certain height, the balloon bursts, releases the sulfur dioxide gas. In theory, if enough of the gas was released, it could cool the earth. Maybe. But what is certain is that sulfur dioxide will react with the moisture in the air to create sulfuric acid. The result would be acid rain.

Which is better, acid rain that will kill us or climate change? Acid rain would be a real thing while climate change is a big maybe. Richard, I appreciate your writing. You're right about that. I remember, I remember, should we say experienced enough to remember what it was like living in the Pittsburgh area. My great-grandfather, my grandfather rather, Granddad Fisher, he worked at the U.S. Steel Coke Mill in Clarton, Pennsylvania, where they would take metallurgical coal and then burn off the gases. And there

was so much acid rain that fell around that neighborhood. It just corroded the paint on all our cars, ate the metal, and I imagine it couldn't have been too good for our lungs either for that matter. All right. Had Randy write me this morning, Bill, you were talking about Clint Eastwood. Bill, I've always been a Clint Eastwood fan. I just watched this little jewel the other day and you were talking about Clint early

in his career for sure, having started his career in 1955 and this episode of Highway Patrol from 1956. Keep holding them accountable. And then Jerry finally writes, hey Bill, why is Trump telling Putin to end the war and not Zelensky as well? Why is he not telling Netanyahu the same thing regarding Gaza? Orban of Hungary, one of Trump's biggest supporters in the 2024 election, is voting against sending more weapons and troops to Ukraine.

Yeah, there's a lot of disagreement on that, isn't there Jerry? I think it's because, well, despite Trump's talk of wanting to have rapprochement with Russia, it doesn't appear to be happening. And I would also dare say, to be fair to the Russian side of things, after what's happened over the last 15, 20 years or more, would you trust what an American president says? Just saying, all right? Email Bill at BillMeyersShow.com. Be well, and we'll continue the conversation. Dwayne Younger, State Representative Dwayne Younger is going to KMED.com and enter to win. This is News Talk 1063 KMED and you're waking up with the Bill Meyers show.

Wild Thing State Representative Dwayne Younger. That could be another nickname for you Dwayne. It's a great day. Yeah, great day. All right. Yeah. Well, you know, you are kind of a force of nature over in the state legislature, okay? At least I'll give you that, okay? Let me just drill into this a little bit because we haven't talked for a few weeks. You ended up not being present for that final ridiculous bloodthirsty week in which Republicans pretended to be winning, but ended up losing mostly. Would you agree with me on that and pretty much how that ended up going up that last week, that final week?

I think that's a perspective. That's a tough one to come to. I think the session, let me wrap my thing around the session, my perspective session, the Democrats didn't do well in the session. You know, they didn't come out with these huge wins. They did pass the Senate bill 243, the gun bill. Yeah, they got that. So yeah, they got that.

But the ODOT bill, which, you know, they've been working on for, I don't know, nine months or something, they couldn't figure that out. So I think they had an okay win. But it wasn't the way I would have fought it. And that's not the way I think we gave them the 243 bill. Well, yeah, of course, Republicans gave 243 to the Democrats because they were there. I mean, it just did. And the part that I thought was ridiculous. Now, I'm not on here to just sit around here and bash Republicans. I don't like doing this, but I have to call things as I see it.

And when you see them sending out a little, hey, wasn't this great? We stopped the ODOT bill. Well, the ODOT bill got stopped because Democrats wouldn't pass it. They didn't have the votes. And so it didn't matter. Well, but there was a lot of pressure on them from that bill. I mean, my Oregon Free Coalition, we spent quite a bit of money pressuring Democrats, getting their own people to, you know, one, one representative got a thousand emails for her, from her constituents, a thousand. Okay. So we were definitely trying to put the pressure on it. It was a bad bill. But again, I wasn't going to be there because it's a bad bill. Why do I need to be there? You know, we had a bill that would have kept service just like it is today,

or not today, but you know, before the layoffs. And we wouldn't have had to do, you know, go through all this. We could have sustained services, but that's not what they want to do. They don't want oversight. They don't want, you know, a plan that we'd all agree upon. They want more taxes. I mean everywhere you turn around they're trying to grow the government. They wanted a permanent increase, right? That's what they were looking for. They weren't looking about kind of shifting things around or shifting some dollars out of the general fund, they just want... Now, I... And frankly, I would understand, I would understand just increasing the gas tax, the fuel tax,

and also finding a way to tax the electric cars, you know, what a few of them are on the road, okay? I get it. At least it's anonymous. You know, the data is anonymous on this, but just about every way that Oregon Department of Transportation or the governor is going to want to raise taxes on people usually involves putting a chip in your car. And I'm not a big fan of that, Duane. I would imagine you're not either. Everything. No, I do not want the government tracking me.

I mean, I'm already worried in my new car when it tells me in the service people call me and say, hey, it's time for your service. They're tracking me. I know. And the last thing you want is Governor Koteck saying, hey, where has Dwayne Younger been this week, right? Exactly. It's like that fake article about splashings. She'd take all the livelihood out of everything for me, if she could. Yeah, I guess so. But still, so we're now at this point where, all right, so the ODOT bill, the big transportation package didn't pass. Now there's talk that Governor Kotec is going to call a special session. You think that's going to be the case? She's going to do that? If she did, it wouldn't be till the end of September. I'm thinking that's my...

why the capitals closed down for at least a month. So right now you can't get inside of it. So it's going to be at least, I feel at least end of September, they're going to have to do something for ODOT. I just don't know what that's going to be. We'll continue to see the negotiations happen. I don't think the Republicans are going to want to raise taxes. I just don't see them there. Maybe one or two. Well, but...

But... All the tax are increased. Okay, so you're looking for the end of September then for this. Now, when you do a special session, is it just like anything is game or do you have to call for it for a specific reason, Duane? What are the rules about this? And I may be a little light on that. That's why I'm asking you. Yeah, I think you have to have a specific reason for calling the special session. And usually special sessions are, well, we had one last year, you know, to pay the fire bill, you know.

But again, we don't have to show up either. You know, if another Republican showed up, I believe the session doesn't start because they have to gavel it in. And they still have to have quorum for now. I know they're going to try to work on getting rid of that too. But you see, this is kind of going back because one of the reasons why some of your other colleagues would say, Bill, we can't deny quorum and stop the ODOT bill and stop the gun bill and stop these other things. We can't stop that because well they'll just bring it back. They'll just call a special session. I was thinking all right yeah but then you don't show up for that either. You don't allow quorum. It's not an

excused absence at that point is it? Because nothing's been actually happening yet. Isn't that the case? Well yeah yeah I think the session doesn't start unless they can gavel us in but we have to give them you know 40 people to be to be there, 40 representatives to be there. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. If you never give them 40 people, then they would never be able to gavel us in and start the special session. All right. So look for this in September, folks. We get this straight from a state representative, Duane Yunker. This was a frustrating session. You're right, the Democrats didn't get the big wins, but it really bothers me that... Now, I guess it's just human nature. You know, you want to be able to say,

hey, look, we got you a brand new fire hydrant for your district, but yeah, now your concealed carry handgun licenses all screwed up there because we were there for Senate Bill 243, you know, for that getting voted in. But you're gonna run for re-election in spite of the fact that nobody seems to back you there. Well, I'm not I'm not doing it for them. Okay. I mean if I was doing it for them, of course, I wouldn't do it again. But my goal is to fight for, you know, one, my district and second, those Oregonians. I mean, they need somebody with common sense to be there and say hard things. And so, I don't know.

For me, it's a calling right now, and I will do it as long as the people want me there. And I think God just put me there to just say hard things. And I'm not done. I've been a lot of support. I mean, I get a lot of support from and other districts outside of Josephine County that praise me or I've got people donating to my campaign now that want me to fight for them. I got speaking events in counties up north that want me to come and speak to their Republican Party. So I'm going to go up there and speak and hopefully motivate them to get out and vote. I, until every, I know I keep hearing about this

in vote by mail, but my thing to push back on that is, until everybody votes, I don't think it's gonna change anything. And at this point, Republican turnout is still a problem in the state of Oregon. It still is. I mean, I'm not saying there's not a problem with the voting by mail. I'm just saying if we can't get people to vote, that's the problem. Yeah. If you're not going to get into the vote by mail, getting into the vote in person, you think that would be any better? Hmm.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean... But, well, one of the reasons why I think the Republicans have had problems with that turnout, though, has been the lack of fiber, the lack of fight and spine in there with people like you and even Noah in a different way, that sort of thing, in which being able to say, no, we're not crossing these lines. And there has been so much of the caucus, in my opinion, that has been somewhat compromised. And it's kind of the same sort of thing. Like, you know, gosh, if we're just friends and more moderate and we can show our Democratic colleagues how good we are, that they'll pay attention to us more and help us pass our

bills, which never happens. At least I don't think it does. But there's still a lot of that. I mean, doesn't that tend to discourage Republican turnout? Well, you know, I'm not a transactional politician. I mean, that's some people are, and I'm not a transactional politician. You know, I did a post here, I don't know, it was a few months ago. And it said, you know, if I brought $2 million back to Josephine County for my district, it's like $25 a person.

That's really nothing. To sell to what? To give another bad bill? To pass gun bills? To pass taxes on you? I mean, does that make sense? But yet many other Republicans would look at that $2 million and go, hey, yeah, that's okay, it's worth the sellout.

But they're looking at it in that transactional form. We need to find more who are not so transactional in nature, I guess, here, Duane. One question I was going to ask you here, since you have officially announced that you're running for re-election, has anything happened with that investigation? Remember the investigation where you were reading the

porno books that the Democrats and some Republicans like Mannix insisting you shouldn't be able to stop it from going into the into the Oregon public schools here and the stuff you were reading there they said oh this is just horrible this is horrible stuff but it's okay to give it to the kids right did anything ever come of that where's that kind of being buried or is it kind of derailed? horrible. This is horrible stuff, but it's okay to give it to the kids, right? Did anything ever come of that? Where's that kind of being buried or is it kind of derailed? Well, I got an update yesterday. So I reached out last Tuesday or Monday, asking where this investigation, because the investigation is supposed to end in 84 days according to the rules. Okay. 84 days to do this

thing. As of Friday, it was like 105 days. So they still didn't get back to me. There was nothing there from the equity officer or anything. So... Oh, that's right. It was... Was it the equity department that was doing this? Who actually does that investigation? Equity office. It's the equity office up in the state legislature. So they do all the investigation. They hired an independent investigator. I don't know why you need an independent investigator More more taxpayer money. We can use that for ODOT maybe right so nothing So I wrote a letter to the conduct committee telling about the many failures in this in this process I posted online and you and then I get a I get an email from Monday yesterday from the equity officer

apologizing that they're they have to extend the thing on May 9th because I released the confidential letter showing what they're they're accusing me of and if I want to if I want to participate but the rules say they're supposed to keep me abreast at all, you know, every move if there's extensions or anything. They never did that. So you had the temerity then to release the witch hunt from the equity department, right? Yes, which has nobody's names on it. It just says, you know, you're accused of this, you're accused of this. You know, the hostile work environment for their speech on the 17th and your speech on the, I don't know, the 27th or whatever it was in March, it doesn't say who your accuser is.

So this new accusation is, I retaliated by releasing the accusations. No, I would get back with him and say, I was being transparent to what I think is an unjust investigation and letting people know how this actually works. I was letting people know how their corrupt state government actually works. I probably wouldn't say that though. But I did write another letter to the Conduct Committee. I'm talking about the many failures and the waste of money this department or whatever it is. I mean, they're just trying to silence me.

I mean, whatever. Waste of time, waste of money, waste of everything. My free speech, I'm going to continue to speak. In fact, maybe the first speech I give next year will be about trans again. They're not going to shut me up. You're just going to poke the bear, huh? Just going to poke the bear again. If they don't like it, then too bad. You know, I have a freedom of speech to speak about the things that I feel are unjust from District 3, which I'm in, and Oregonians. They're going to shut me up. I mean, it's not like I'm personally

attacking and saying John Smith is doing this. I'm talking about an issue. Books in the schools. Pornographic books. I mean, isn't that what I'm supposed to be doing? Is my not supposed to be using my voice? Oh, but St. Rep. Duane Younger, you are blaspheming against the one true faith in Oregon education, and that is the trans agenda. That is for sure. At least it seems that way sometimes. Yes. You cannot have an opinion. I'm sure the founding fathers thought about that. Yes. I can see Washington talking, hey, Thomas Jefferson, hey, could you put something in there for trans and perhaps the LGBTQ community? And Jefferson going, huh?

Well, no. It's just like, did our founding fathers ever not give a speech or write about issues they thought were wrong or about the British or whatever it is, the tax, the 2% tax we went to war for, they never expressed their frustrations. I'm not allowed to speak on those things. Yeah, I think you're perfectly well. I just appreciate you fighting to hold them accountable up there. I really do appreciate that aspect of your personality, Dwayne. And of course, I nicknamed you affectionately Junkyard Dog because it doesn't care.

It'll take a bite out of you, you know, that kind of thing. And then you were telling me that your brother, I guess, was nickyard dog back in high school right but that the story yeah you know that yes that's the story yeah I love that well the two you two brothers aren't that all apart far apart then I appreciate that where do people find out more about the campaign I'll give you the final say on this one and before you get yourself in any more trouble yeah they're probably I'm sure I'm being monitored by the Equity Office right now I have no doubt no doubt they're probably... I'm sure I'm being monitored by the Equity Office right now. I have no doubt. No doubt. They're probably on the stream right now.

You can go to elect Dwayne Younger. I will be updating my website. We haven't really got to that. I can't even officially file until September, but I'm just putting it out there. I'm still going to fight. I'm not leaving. Looking for donations to keep up the fight. I help, you know, I just thank everybody that gives me the praise and keeps me going. And when I do get the stupid person who want to call me names, I just like, ah, look it, but I got a hundred other people that love me. So all right. Thank you so much. All right. Dwayne, always good talking with you. You're welcome back anytime and appreciate the, you have the right enemies right now at this point in the Oregon experiment, okay? You be well. Take care.

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here on the Bill Maier show. What's on your mind? Oh, many things. Have you been following that story where the Muslim father is trying to kill his daughter on the honor killing because she would not Go to some foreign country and marry an older man. I Have not kept up on that which I vaguely you can see right now on Fox News If you bring it up, it's right down. You have to scroll down a little bit, but okay there but but you know, I just You know, I just wondered if this country can survive with all this diversity, inclusion, you know, and so forth.

It just seems like the Muslim religion is incompatible with democracy, Western civilization, the American way of life, they're just, they're not compatible. And when you have all this division going on in the country, can this country kind of survive with those kinds of mindsets going on? Probably not. And I know that near the United States we have a big deal about being welcoming to all faiths. But when it comes to the Muslim religion specifically, I think what you're speaking of, once there is a certain percentage of the population, then it turns from being a religion into the

political system. And you know where I'm going. I'm not telling you anything you don't know. Well, yeah, it's like Iran. It's a theocracy. But we have a religion that says if you don't believe what we do, we have the right to kill you. And that's what the father was doing. I know. And what liberalism, what we call liberalism, if you want to call it that, or Western liberalization, is tolerant to the point of suicidal intent.

Really, what we're dealing with. I really detest the whole idea of calling leftist liberals because they're anything but. Yeah, not from the classical, from the classical thing. Now, of course, you know, our first president, George Washington, of course, had to deal with...Was it Washington that dealt with the Muslims at that point? They called them Muslim men, you know, sort of thing. Or was that Jefferson that had to deal with that? The Barbary pirates, do you recall? Yeah, yeah. There were some of that, but it was so minor back then. But compared to what's

going on now, and look what's happened in London. And there's places here, even in this country, where the police are afraid to go. Sharia law prevails. Well, all you have to do is go to the, well, to Michigan as an example. Well, I think, yeah. Dear Bornistan, they have nicknamed that a long time ago. Dear Bornistan. And it is different, Phil, but you know the whole thing about globalism is that, you know, where all we are were just little markets here. You know, all people are the same, Tom. Why aren't you getting with the program? Haven't you been brainw aren't you getting with the program?

Haven't you been brainwashed enough to get with the program? Everyone's the same! Yeah, you're right, Bill. I must be crazy. I don't know, it's just so sad to see the country just go to hell in a handbasket because people are... We're all, we're all still mind controlled and so forth. Now that I think Trump's really with this Epstein thing, it's really, he's really turned

off a lot of people that were supporting him and rightly so. If I know Trump though, not that I claim to know him deeply, but just knowing he'll, I think he will realize at some point that there's going to have him deeply, but just knowing he'll, I think he will realize at some point that there's going to have to be, he's going to have to throw the the upstanding crowd of MAGA a bone. I think he's going to have to do that. He's not going to be able to just say, hey, nothing's going to happen. I think you're right.

And it's going to be a question of what bone that is. But you know, it's like the JFK thing, they'll just keep tossing that little bone. They're not going to just come out and flat out and say, our government killed its own president in 63. They won't do it. And same with 9-11 and so forth. Yeah, it was refreshing even to have John Deaton say, oh yeah, it took 60 something years for them to finally admit that

Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA operative, okay? I heard that line. I don't know if that's true. admit that Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA operative, okay? Yeah. I heard that line. I don't know if that's true. Oh, well, he thinks it's true. And of course, I've figured it was true for a long time. I've read enough J.R. Yeah, I think it's the truth, but I don't think it's widely known. Yeah. Oh, no, it's not widely known. I'll give you that, okay? That's what I thought Deaton was saying. That everybody knows.

No. Certain people know if they read something other than what the mainstream will, they'll shovel at them, okay? I appreciate the call. Thanks. Good pebble in your shoe call there. All right. It's five minutes after eight. This is KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. George Sexton will join me here in about eight, nine minutes or so. And George, of course, attorney with KSWild. In fact, he said, Bill, let's have a little gangrene update. I think he kind of embraced my gangrene term like a red badge of courage, I guess. But we'll talk a little bit about forest policy, what things are looking like and maybe just you know plumb his depths. That'll be

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