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Episode Date: July 23, 2025

Morning news and opinion and later a talk about cellphone radiation safety. Cory Hillis is President of EMF Services, which consults and detects radiation problems in your home with WIFI, cellular, etc.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Clouser Drilling.com. My email is Bill at Bill Myers Show.com. Facebook.com slash Bill Myers Show is up here too this morning. Been trying to get a hold of John O'Connor. He's, of course, the author of Postgate and Postgate the Book.com. And we were going to talk with him.

And he's been trying to call me he's out of that he's actually out of town he's normally in the Bay Area but I'm hoping to bring you some some legal analysis on the latest the latest push to get Adam Schiff indicted and possibly in big trouble of course now he's a senator now he's a sitting senator and they want to try to get him for mortgage fraud. I think it's quite interesting. So hopefully we'll get a hold of John and we'll get some good conversation going on that too. A little bit later this hour, this is something that, you know, I've had various listeners and, you know, not just Lucretia, even though I'm sure

Lucretia would go down here, but many people I've talked to over the years have had issues with cell phone radiation. And there was an interesting case that ended up just getting shut down. And they're calling it at least those within the electromagnetic radiation issue. This is like the latest big tobacco kind of deal. They were suing Apple. And what they were trying to get Apple to do is just put warning labels on phones. They wanted warning labels. This was the ask. And the federal government just shut this case down.

And I'm going to talk with Corey Hillis about this. He's the president of EMF Solutions. EMF Solutions. EMF, of course, Electromagnetic Force or Electromotive Force. I'm not exactly sure. I'll talk with him about this. But he's one of these guys, kind of like what Tom and Talon, who calls in every now and then, and talks about taking his meter and going around and measuring the electronic radiation

of the various electronic devices in our home. And he has the latest on this one because the federal government ended up shutting down this lawsuit against Apple. And what's interesting is not that Apple proved that its cell phones were safe, and by the way, this is also involving Samsung too. But that nobody has any right, the federal government is there to preempt. The federal government says you can't do anything about this first. The federal government has the first shot at it, which I find really interesting. So I'm looking forward to talking with with Corey about this here in the next few minutes. So we'll have that coming up. I'm also going to have Professor Alan Sanders. He's a professor emeritus and also an attorney. We've got a

lot of political news that we're digging into this morning too. There's all sorts of things going on in the political realm here involving President Trump and he's going to weigh in on this call to declassify or get more information out on the Epstein case. And the last time I talked with Alan Sanders, you could tell that he's not a particularly big friend of President Trump, I don't think, but he has a reputation of being kind of straight down the middle. And so we're going to have that talk with him coming up also. Former state senator, Herman Bertruger, is also on the program. We're going to get him back on.

And he's saying that the Democrats are very active here in Southern Oregon, very active, very smart. When I say very smart, very smart-ing, they're not real happy about what has been going on. So we'll have him and get the latest on it. And of course, with your calls and opinion, because it is Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. 770-5633, let me grab a quick call here. Hi, before the break. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, this is Mark. Mark, how you doing buddy? Good. The phone thing.

Yeah. I'm a contractor and I buy an OtterBox all the time and I carry my phone on my hip. Right. The muscles in my hip went absolutely batshit. Sorry. Anyway. That's okay. I have a dump. I have a dump. I have a dump button, Mark. That's okay. I have a dump. I have a dump up. I have a dump

button, Mark. It's okay. So what happened next after that? Well, it worked its way around to the front of my hip and then down my leg and all the way to my knee. And I went to the doctor and he said, yeah, that's your cell phone. Quit wearing your cell phone on your hip. Really? So your doctor even told you that huh? Yeah Huh, so there you are. That's the end of my story. Well mark. I appreciate you sharing that Of course I wonder about people who put the cell phone in their pocket all the time. Hmm Well, don't put it in the same place all the time

Yeah, move it around if you're gonna have damage move it around around from different place to different place, right? Not just one. I guess. Actually, now I'm just leaving it laying around. You know, that tends to be the way I do most of the time. Sometimes I'll stick it in my back pocket and I'll put it away. I'll put it on top of my wallet so that it's away from my skin a little bit. But I think this is what Cory's going to be talking about here in the next few minutes and he's going down that road. Now the FCC will tell you that all it does is heat tissue, you know the radio frequencies from the cell phone because they are just little radio transmitters in our pockets and in our purses and you know everywhere else like that and there's been controversy about this for several years now overseas the rules

are considerably stricter on exposure the way they tested but the uh... the Washington in washington dc the fcc has control of this and they've been kind of love to do much about it so pretty interesting huh it was painful and it still is it hasn't't gone away. Now it's settled in my kneecap. Now are you going to a natural path or is this just a conventional everyday old doctor? No, the regular doctors just look at you like you're weird. So no, I'm going to a nature path.

Okay, I had a feeling because I had a feeling that it was only going to be the natural type positions that were probably going to even think that you weren't crazy. Right. All right, Mark. Hey, I appreciate the call. Thanks for that. Help me know, okay? Thank you.

You're welcome. All right. 18 minutes after 6, 7705633. We'll talk with Corey about that here in the next few minutes. Attorney General Dan Rayfield, this is our top state story. It's a state versus federal kind of story this morning. He put out a press release and I had this here. I'm just going to share a few thoughts of it here with you.

Attorney General Rayfield and a coalition of 20 other attorneys general yesterday ended up suing the Trump administration and what they're doing is stopping, they're trying to stop what they say is the unlawful attempt to restrict access. And of course, you know what, you know when someone in the government says that, well, someone's trying to restrict access, in other words, that is trying to say someone doesn't want to take taxpayer money and pay for it, that's restricting access. In other words, I don't have access to health care, meaning that you don't have access to somebody else paying for your health care is

usually what they mean, but I digress here. So, Rayfield is suing, along with 20 other probably blue states, I would imagine, to restrict access to, in other words, the Trump administration is restricting access to critical health education and social service programs. Earlier this month, Rayfield says, in a chaotic reversal of agency policy, the administration issued notices prohibiting state safety net programs issued notices prohibiting state safety net programs from serving many residents. And here's the money shot here, regardless of immigration status. Okay, so here we go. This is the battle on the sanctuary state thing going on again, folks. The change threatens access. In other words, you paying for someone, someone else's service, access to critical services such as Head Start, Title

IX, family planning. In other words, abortion, adult education, mental health care, and community health centers. I find that interesting. So the community health center, non-profit sort of situation here that doesn't ask, and I would imagine there is a lot of illegal immigrants that are using these health centers. By the way, Attorney General Ray Field and the coalition are asking the court to halt the new federal rules and act quickly to ensure continued access. And you know what access, once again, is. You pay for them.

That's what access is. Ray Field says the federal government's actions threaten the basic services that thousands of Oregonians rely on every day, child care, health care, housing, and more. And of course, he just refers to illegal aliens as just Oregonians. Thousands of Oregonians rely on every day, child care, health care, housing, and more.

These changes were issued with no notice, no legal justification, and no plan for how states are supposed to comply. Okay, all right. This has to do with immigration status. This is the part they're not going to say, they're not going to do the quiet, say the quiet part outside. This is mostly about illegal immigrants. And naturally the Trump administration wants to make sure that if you are getting American services, American taxpayer paid for services, that you are an actual American. Not just someone visiting, not just someone doing the jobs that supposedly no other Oregonians will do, that sort of thing, that you need to be an American citizen. And so it seems pretty simple.

Dan Rayfield says, we don't know how we could possibly, how could we comply with making sure that these people are American citizens in order to provide access to services. I think all of the Oregon bureaucrats, I think all of the Oregon bureaucrats, there are just certain bureaucraties that they, you know, services, access, resources, you know, you hear them say stuff over and over again. All right. Okay. So how could Attorney General Dan Rayfield comply with the Trump administration, who

he is suing right now, which he is suing right now, because they don't know how they can comply. How can they comply and keep American citizens only getting these services like Head Start and access to the community health centers, etc. Well, I don't know, the Department of Motor Vehicles seems to have been able to figure it out with the Real ID program. I just went and got my Real ID the other day and I brought in an American birth certificate. An American birth certificate.

It was pretty easy. I think what this really translates as is Attorney General Dan Rayfield does not want to comply with the Trump administration and wishes to find and get another pliable federal court judge to say you don't have to. Nationwide court injunction they'll pride to certify it as a as a class action right? Only half kidding. But that is our top story statewide at the moment. Other than we have a hundred thousand acre wildfire, but don't worry about that, that wildfire over in central Oregon, Oregon rather, because that's the smell of the forest being restored.

We'll hear that from various other state officials too. 24 minutes after six, you're on the Bill Meyers show on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. That's a big pebble in mine today. Just look at that. Interesting story I caught this morning about a California benefit concert. Remember when he had the big Palisade fires just a few months ago down in Southern California? The aftermath of the Palisades and Eaton fires. National worldwide news, more than 2,000 homes, businesses destroyed

and 30 killed. Well there were a couple of fire aid concerts and there were live streams and they were held at the Intuit Dome and the Kia Forum late January in Los Angeles. And they had an aid list of performers donating their time to raise money for fire victims. More than 100 million came through donations. And then an editor that was covering the story reached out to the Annenberg Foundation, which was tasked with distributing the money in April to find out how the fire victims could receive direct financial help. The answer that oh my gosh what a racket! All that hundred million dollars that was donated in those fire concerts in Los Angeles, people thought that they were donating to get people back on their feet, right?

The money ended up going to nonprofits. Nonprofits. The nonprofit rackets that were always fighting here in Southern Oregon, kind of like, you know, the one that always comes to mind is the, you know, providing services. And yet it's their business like stabbing wagon, you know, you provide needles to the homeless. And of course, you call, you're helping out with the homelessness community, et cetera, et cetera. Nothing personal, but it's just like, you know, there are many of these kind of Democratic front organizations that are festooned all throughout this system. So a hundred million dollars.

And people thought they were donating to donating to these concerts and that they were going to help the fire victims, and it ended up going to the non-profit Democratic Rackets. No individual could get money, even though the money was intended for the fire victims. Fire victims losing everything, not a single buck, not a penny from the $100 million ever got to any of them. And the California Democrats have funneled it to the nonprofits instead. Kind of like what I was talking about before, Dan Rayfield suing the Trump administration because he's trying to be a meanie and restricting access and services and access to resources,

meaning he wants illegal aliens to pick your pocket. I don't know how else could you describe it, but there we go. But same thing happening in California, too. 630, this is the Bill Meyers show on KMED 993 KBXG. Just had to get you up on that story. Couldn't believe it, you know, reading that one. Now then, your cell phone. Federal government ended up shutting down a lawsuit against Apple. And we're going to talk about why. And maybe you can protect yourself about this. I'm going back to what Mark was talking about just a few minutes ago on the show.

Harper, GLP. GoodRx is not insurance, but can be used instead of insurance, including Medicare and other federal and state funded programs. This is News Talk 1063 KMED and you're waking up with the Bill Myers show. Corey Hellas joins me. He's president of EMF Solutions, a certified EMF specialist and trainer. We're going to be talking about cell phones and apparently there's some information out there that Apple and Samsung don't really want you to know too much about apparently. Cory, welcome to the program. Good morning.

Super glad to be here. Thank you so much for having me. All right, so you have an issue and have been digging into the cell phone radiation, the radiation issue, and I'm assuming that you do not have a cell phone next to your head right now. Would that be fair? Well, we have ways to protect ourselves. So I'm glad you brought that up. I'm not against the technology. I'm all for it. It's awesome. I was one of the first in line to get a 5G phone. But I protect myself. That's why my five-year-old is allowed to have one or use one. But I do like to talk on speaker anyway, because every little bit helps. Yeah, I would agree with you. There is a quiet shutdown of a lawsuit against the Apple Corporation, which just happened recently apparently. I'm wondering if you could tell me a bit more about

that, please. Well, let's back up a step because this is a key for people to understand what's going on. So the FCC sets the safety guidelines for how much radiation can come off of a cell phone that's safe versus unsafe, meaning harms you. Okay, and the harms are significant and lengthy if we have time to get into that. Yeah, yeah, go ahead if you don't mind. I don't mind getting off into the weeds a little bit because it is an important subject and this I the this preemption issue is something which has been a little irritating to people people have tried to in the communities regulate cell phone towers location and they've been more or less told by the federal

government that nope you have nothing to say about something like that and of course I mean I have a foot in both sides of this because here I'm in the broadcast world so I'm working around this stuff all the time. So I get it. I understand. Yeah big time big time So the neat thing about the FCC is they did something smarter than the FDA and they decided instead of the level of radiation That they're gonna test they say the safety is based on how much does it heat your head? Okay, okay. They call it the star rating or the specific absorption rate. And don't they have a dummy named Sam that actually that they actually test you to use at the FCC? Yeah. So they don't even test it on

real people which would be much more accurate and worse. So they're, you know, they test it on a mannequin made of liquid and a couple chemicals mixed in and they call that a person. Oh. a person, but it's something to start. Yeah, but I guess, you know, who's going to volunteer to be the dummy to get baked by your cell phone to a delicate crunch, I guess, for a testing purpose? I don't know, Corey, but you have to wonder. Well, it's easy. We've done tests.

You can go to our landing page on our website and you can see people's heads heating up over a 10-minute period as the phone's on their head. Okay. What's your website? I'm talking all day on the phone. Okay. What's your website, by the way?

Sure. What's your website? Oh, emfhometest.com is the place to go. The landing page where people can get more information on there, plus sign up for a free home test. And if we have a rep local, they'll literally test your home, your phone, and all that for free. If they're not local, they'll do a consultation with you and answer questions for free. Okay. So this is your business then, detecting radiation and trying to lower it, right? That's

how you work it. We're not lowering it. We're actually addressing it and protecting people from it. Okay, so let's get back to the FCC. Let's go back to the FCC testing then. FCC tests cell phones with Sam the dummy. It's not a human. And if Sam the dummy doesn't overheat, then everything's okay? Yeah, but it's much, much more interesting than that. So Yeah, but it's much, much more interesting than that. So the way your microwave oven uses microwaves, radar, same basic thing, radio waves, all synonymous, used to be called a radar oven. The way it heats is it shakes, vibrates,

and spins molecules. They smash into each other two and a half billion times a second. That creates friction and it heats your food from the inside. Right. Yeah, it's the friction, the water molecules vibrate against each other. That's how your potato gets baked, right? Exactly. So let's fast forward to your Wi-Fi router. The same exact frequency as your microwave oven

with no walls on it. And that's what your phone uses. that's what your tablet uses, that's what your laptop uses, the same frequency. How is it heating your head then? Well, it's heating your head, not like next to a radiator where heat gently comes in and warms you. It heats your head by shaking and vibrating and spinning molecules that smash into each other to create friction and that creates your heat. So a lot of experts say there's no

acceptable level of that from radiation. I don't want that going on in my brain. I don't know about you. The thing is though you're talking about what 2 gigahertz? I know we're getting into the weeds right now. Wi-Fi is 2.5. There's 2.5 gigahertz and then there's the 5 gigaHz Wi-Fi. And the 5 GHz is not near the frequency of water. The 2.5 arguably could be, right? Well, both are because 5 is just double 2.5. So you have twice the wave. So every other wave is the exact same frequency as 2.5.

Oh, so you're saying there is sympathetic vibrations even though it's twice the frequency. That's interesting. I'd have to think about that one and ponder it. So you're saying there is sympathetic vibrations even though it's twice the frequency. That's interesting. I'd have to think about that one and ponder it. But where do we go here from this point? Why has the FCC squashed any attempt to label anything for safety when it comes to cell phone radiation? Well, that I can't answer, but your guess is probably correct in what you assess.

But here's the wild thing the FCC has never tested SAM with the phone touching SAM it's always at a distance a small distance but even a small distance away it exceeds their safety guidelines of 1.6 it actually goes 300 and 500 percent over the safety guidelines without even touching you or touching Sam. Oh so the FCC tests cell phones in a way that nobody uses cell phones? Well it's called a touch screen right? I mean I think you'd touch it. Yeah. Yes they say no this mimics what people, how people use their phones better. I mean, I don't know how you use your phone, but I think you've got to touch it, right? Yeah. I mean, to get on it,

to get on the internet. How far away does the FCC get the cell phone? Does it keep it away from your head in order to do the radiation testing? How far? Well, first of all, the level that they set is ridiculously high if you ask non-biased professionals that have studied this for years, and I can quote those organizations. But let's assume their safety guidelines are okay. Okay. They test it five millimeters away,

which is pretty close. And then you're right on the borderline of being unsafe. But as soon as they go from five to two millimeters on the Apple phones, they went over 300% over. An investigative journalist at Chicago Tribune called them out. So they retested, you know, at that two millimeter and they said, yes, we're actually 300 and some percent over the safety guidelines that they set. Okay, so two millimeters is about a half an inch, right around a half inch, maybe a little bit more than a half inch. So that's where... To me, it doesn't matter much because all of it is like 1.6 is already way too high.

All right. But if you're not using the speakerphone, let's be honest here, Corey, if you're not using the speakerphone, you got it shoved up against your ear so that you can hear. At least that's the way most people, I would think, would be using the cell phone, would they not? Yes, and here there's a lot of factors here. So, one, your radiation increases when you're farther from a cell tower. Are they using it at different distances from a cell tower? I have no idea. Two, radiation is the highest when you're live streaming video, pretty darn high on a phone call and then it goes

down from there. What are they testing? They don't really say all this stuff. Okay. So what do you do about this? Because you know I know people who don't seem to quite understand radio propagation that'll say, I just put my cell phone in a Faraday cage. And it's like, yeah, that means it doesn't work. Okay. It has to be able to radiate. What are you doing then to try to ameliorate what the federal government apparently doesn't want to touch right now. Too hot to handle. So we are the first to figure out how... so we weren't the first to figure out that radiation like this is causing a malfunction in something called the voltage-gated

calcium channels inside of our cells. That causes a snowball of effects. You can see that on our website. But we were the first to figure out how the radiation is causing those effects. And by doing that, it's key because instead of guessing, we're actually addressing that root cause, which we call subatomic chaos, which has to do with that shaking and vibrating of molecules. When you address that, the snowball effects don't happen. And one of the neatest things visually you can see on our website, not the most key study,

but a neat one, because we have many studies, is the thermal image. You can see people's heads heating up every two and a half minutes on a phone when they use our chip on it, on the back of the phone. You can see that there was no heating. And that's pretty key, because that means that shaking and vibrating subatomic chaos, which causes the problems, is being addressed by our products really well. Okay, what do you mean? You put a chip on the back of the cell phone? Really? Yes, a chip. Okay, what does this chip do? Well, that's proprietary. I can give you

examples of what it does, but on my website we have three meters we balance with certain properties and these are natural properties. I can show you one of the videos on my website it's a meter we had specially made so I don't tell you what it's measuring but you can drop rocks and sand and different particles in there and you'll see the meter reading certain readings and when we balance it a certain way, we create a field which corrects that subatomic chaos. It's kind of like if you had, here's an analogy, if you had forces, like say, because every

EMF is an electric and a magnetic force that shakes and vibrates. If you had a magnetic force that was shaking up and down and left and right and back and all random chaotic, that's the chaos that causes our voltage-gated calcium channels to open. It's a lot without a diagram, but that's what goes on. Yeah, now the calcium ion channel that you were talking about is an actual physical effect that has been researched on this. I mean, I will give you this, but I will also say though, but I will also say though, but I hear the, hey, let's take the magic little chip and put it on the back of the phone. I mean, this just sounds like, and all of a sudden all the bad stuff goes away.

As a broadcast engineer and someone hit us a ham radio operator and studies this kind of stuff, it kind of sounds like nonsense to me, Corey. I'm sorry to be this way, but I have to ask you. All right? No, yeah, no problem. I love talking. I'm not just a scientist fixing their house with our products after they talk to me, so I have no problem getting in the weeds. So we have experiments showing all kinds of things. Our best one is tested on human cells. We put a Wi-Fi router near human cells. We saw the malfunction in the calcium channels and the calcium levels

going up or down in the cells. This is a lab in Texas. And then they put our products on and for the first time in history that experiment was done and it was fixed. So that calcium channel was fixed. That's just one of many experiments, but that's I think the most key one because the biochemists and experts in the EMF world like Dr. Martin Paul from Washington State University and others, they say this is like

kind of the root cause of how it snowballs into symptoms that we have. So let me talk, Corey, then about how do you just reduce the overall impact in your home, even if you don't have the magical, mystical cell phone chip on the back of your cell phone, which you're marketing here? So when someone fixes everything in their life, their home, their car, their work, their phone, has a personal protection product on them, we get a testimonial literally half the time. I mean, we don't fix medical conditions,

and that's how often when we reduce this giant stress off people and this environmental invisible elephant in the room that's huge. Yeah, but there's kind of, there's sometimes an effect though of something. If you know that you buy something and you've spent money on it and you put it up there, hey, I feel better, right?

Because we wish for it to feel better. Yeah, that's a great point. And that's in studies, that's the placebo effect. Yes. So you can fix your house, watch your children that you didn't tell, watch your husband have testimonials, and this happens all the time, I have tons of these testimonials.

I fixed the house, I didn't tell my husband, he wakes up and he says, I sleep better, I have more energy. The pain in my shoulder is gone. All these great things. This is the norm. And better sleep, more energy is the number one testimonial that we tend to get. I don't know. It sounds a little bit too good to be true, Corey. Doesn't it? Yeah. Until you see all the testimonials. We have thousands of testimonials. It Corey. Doesn't it? Yeah. Until you fail the testimonials, we have thousands of testimonials. It's so long, it's crazy. And if you're a holistic practitioner

and you're a chiropractor, which almost all chiropractors learn how to do something called applied kinesiology or muscle testing in school, that's another way that you can test to see that the products are working and actually working better than anything else out there. Corey Hill is with me. He is the president of EMF Solutions. We're talking about this shutdown

of the Cohen versus Apple lawsuit that would have forced Apple to actually disclose more of the radiation that's coming out of its units. And Samsung, of course, they're all pretty much the same technology here. You're claiming you can actually reduce that. Are there non-chip involved ways that you can actually clear up RF radiation, this EMF radiation within your home from the connected world that we're in here at this point, Corey? Well, to answer your question a minute ago, we put a box on your electric meter, just kind of next to it, adjacent to it, you clamp it on, and it uses the electric wires

to spread our field for every room in the house, and that's how we protect your whole house from spell towers, from Starlink, from a scatter pole, from if you have a transformer in your front yard or extra large power lines and all the rest of it. Okay, and you're not having a shaman coming over and doing a cleansing with Sage or anything? No. No. We're real science-based. Okay.

All right. Because I'm sorry to sound skeptical about this, but RF is RF and it either gets shielded or it doesn't... Radio frequency energy either gets shielded or it doesn't, radio frequency energy either gets shielded or it doesn't get shielded. It's not going to go someplace. That's not it at all. I can give you so many examples. First let me tell you that every single person in the audience right now, the small print

in their phone contract does say that their phone is over the safety guidelines as soon as they get less than five millimeters from it. They're already admitting it. They're already having to. And you're right. And you're right. They do. And even then, the FCC is testing because the assumption is made that there's a problem with it. Otherwise, they wouldn't be concerned about SAM the dummy and the distance involved, etc. etc. Okay? So I'll concede your point there. And I'm not saying there's not a problem but but let me ask you a question so all radiation is not created equal so when you have let's say you walk in out in the Sun okay if you have unpolarized radiation like from the Sun especially

analog radiation like smooth waves if you mapped it out. That is not the same, that doesn't produce the subatomic chaos that digital, man-made polarized radiation creates. So you could go out in the sun, it's about the same amount of radiation levels as your cell phone when it's on a phone call. But it doesn't do the same thing that your cell phone does in the same way.

Now you have some of the high frequencies that has a whole different thing, because if you have an X-ray, that does in the same way. Now you have some of the high frequencies that has a whole different thing, because if you have an x-ray that does a whole different thing. And also if you look at the output of a cell phone, if you were to examine it electronically, it's spiky, impulsed, and various other issues. I understand that. I'll concede your point there. I'm not saying that sun radiation is the equivalent of your cell phone, even though you could say it's the same level overall of average. So, all right, it's interesting. It sounds interesting. I don't know if I'm just ready to bite on that at this point. Tell me why I should. It's a little hard, a short conversation without the graphs and things to explain, but trust

me, we explain it, we've proved it, and we have thousands of testimonials more than anybody you ever saw before. Some of the testimonials, 25% of the time when people fix everything right, they actually detox for usually one to three days unless they're sick. It's quite a bit longer sometimes because they're going from a world of radiation that is humongous compared to what it was in 2000 back to, you know, we do a really good job and they're almost not having the stress at all and their body says, wow, I got all this extra energy, what am I going to do? And then you flush stuff out. And so the detox effect is quite significant on our products too.

There's so many things, evidence of our products working, it's kind of fun. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'll put the website up there. I don't know about this. I really don't, Corey, but I've talked to enough people over the years that say that there's an issue, but it does sound, I'll give you my honest opinion that it sounds a little too good to be true that we do this all of a sudden. All bad stuff goes away.

I don't know. Do you have a patent on this? I have a patent pending and I'm not planning on finishing it because then China will see what we do and then they'll just do it. And then, you know, what I've created, what we've done that is unique compared to anybody else doing it is just, you know, just going to be taken over by every company in China. I can't sue them. So it doesn't protect me at all.

The one thing that has been clear though from court activity though is that the phone manufacturers have been trying to hide a lot of this of the issues involved and saying you know nothing to see here and the federal government has and this is the part that has bothered me has decided to preempt absolutely anybody else doing anything about it also right I mean that's really the problem that we the people face in this issue of cell phone radiation. Of course the federal government did the most expensive national toxicology program for 30 million dollars proving cell phones were causing tumors and rats, tumors and cancers in rats and mice. So that's one study the European Union paid three million euro for 12 institutions

across different countries in Europe to participate, professors, not like one dude So that's one study, the European Union paid 3 million euro for 12 institutions across different countries in Europe to participate, professors, not like one dude in the basement. And they showed many years ago that 24, and your audience isn't even going to believe what I'm going to say, but look it up, reflex study, 24 hours on a cell phone, that radiation caused the same DNA damage as 1600 chest x-rays. So if you look at the studies you can see that this is a major issue it's not a little one. The bioinitiative.org is a great website because they are a they don't sell anything they're a non-biased organization, they're members from across

the world for decades studying EMFs and they have over 4,000 studies. You want to read a quick summary of a massive amount of information from non-biased people, go there and if you add forward slash conclusions to that website, they'll take you right to a page that summarizes 1800 studies. So you can look this stuff up quick and educate yourself quickly. Corey Hillis, president of EMF Solutions. We'll link to all of your information. Give me your website one more time on this one, Corey.

Yeah, sure. EMFhometest.com is our landing page. EMF, Edward Michael Frank. Hey, I appreciate you being a... You know, like I said, I'm not going to poo-poo the issues of potential EMF radiation. I'm really not. I'm just concerned... And hey, maybe you got something there. I don't know. Like I said, I'm just going off the...

Spitballing off of my knowledge of RF propagation and how it tends to work for a lot of situations. And I don't know how something like this could do what it claims, but that's your job. Okay? I appreciate the call. Thanks for being on, all right? You be well. Absolutely. All right. Thank you for having me. Yeah, and keep using a speakerphone. Okay, 656. This is the Bill Myers. Thank you for having me. Yeah. And keep using a speakerphone. Okay.

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The Bill Meyers Show is on. News Talk 1063 KMED. Join us at Easterseals.com. Hill is. And like I said, I'm not doubting that there are issues with cell phone radiation. I know that there have been enough studies, generally speaking, done outside the United States. The United States has tended to be a laydown a bit for the cell industry, in my opinion. And yes, I have a cell phone, so I mean I use it too. But that being said, I don't know. Granny ends up writing me this morning, Bill, I used to carry my 911 flip phone in my pocket. My hip began to be painful. Turning over in bed was painful. Getting in and out of the car was painful. Began walking bent over because straightening up was painful. This all

stopped once I left the phone at home. Hip hasn't hurt since. I guess it was all my imagination. All right, thank you for that. Carrie on the other hand is, now I know Kerry works in the electronics world. He says, Bill, this product, Corey's product is complete BS. Sorry, you can't change the law of physics just because someone thinks you can. It only works if you can actually prove it. Nope, he has not presented any proof. All right, Kerry. I appreciate the call and the email bill at BillMeyersShow.com. Emails of the day sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson, Central Point Family Dentistry,

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happy camper okay let me go to Vicki hey Vicki you wanted to talk about the the cell phone call I had there with Cory go ahead yeah you know I don't have a cell cell service at my house or internet or any of that. So I think we're already pretty protected by not even having that at the house. But when my husband started his business about 17 years ago, he's a contractor, he had to get a cell phone obviously so he could get phone calls for call jobs. And within, I would say, probably about eight months of having a cell phone constantly with him. And we normally, we never, when we use our cell phone, we don't put it up to our ear.

We don't have Bluetooth. We don't put it in our back pocket. But when he started having it for about eight months, he started feeling sick, like very irritable, just not feeling well, very like stressed. So after about eight months, he turned his off. He left mine on for emergencies or so we can use it in town or in Ruche. But he, like Corey was saying, within a matter of days, he felt so much better. And I've noticed that a lot of people that are on their cell phones or have their Bluetooth are very preoccupied, they're not like present and... Well, you know, a lot of that could just be just be

the interruptions of that. I don't understand this focus on the Bluetooth. You know, you stick, you know, you stick the 2.5 GHz transmitter in your ear. I don't quite get that. I really don't. I've not gone down that route for some reason. That seems dangerous. And I see so many people from little girls to older women that have their cell phones in their back pocket.

Well, it used to be guys would always like the Bluetooth thing in their head because it made them look important when they walked into the restaurant. That kind of thing. Right. And as far as Cory's chip, I know that when we live out being out here with limited cell service, you can purchase a chip that will extend your service. So it makes me think that there is a possibility, if they can extend your service where you wouldn't normally have service,

that they could make something that would protect you from these radiation, just like... Yeah, but it just seems to me that anything that would protect you from the radiation would also protect the cell phone from actually communicating with the other radiation that it needs to work. But all right, we'll agree to disagree on that one, okay? Thank you for the story there, Vicki.

I'll go next. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hello? Good morning, Bill. Hi, Tom. How are you? Welcome. All right. Yeah, I've been examining this issue for the last 15-20 years. I was thinking about you when I was talking with Corey. Yeah, and it's very interesting. I don't either not having his product to products, I guess, to examine and so forth. I don't either refute them or endorse them. But what you tend to try to do when you go out and survey places is to reduce the radiation, isn't that right? Well, yeah, certainly in a house there's a lot of things you could do. You can get ethernet cables instead of having a wireless router and so forth. Yeah, I advocate that and so forth. There are literally hundreds of

organizations or groups or people coming out with a product that says you do this or you attach it to your cell phone and neutralize it. So, the bad stuff. That's where I tend to draw the line that doesn't make sense as far as physics go and the laws of electronics and radiation. But I could be wrong. But I use something called applied kinesiology or muscle testing. I think Corey mentioned that. And I've used that through the years to evaluate people's electrical energy body, if you will.

It's kind of an interface between acupuncture and chiropractic, and you can evaluate a lot of the electrical activity of the human body and find out what's going on where. And I have several incidences where people I'd test put their cell phone on their belly and then do a little muscle testing and then work with various chips and so forth. I have seen a couple where the chips seem to change the strength of the arm and so forth where they're to the positive where it was where it was okay. Normally you put a cell phone on somebody's stomach and then blows out their whole electrical muscular system. That's a pretty big claim. Wow. Well I do it you know I see it all the time constantly. I mean the other

thing that I'm seeing with the EMS and forth, I used to find a weak spleen maybe two or three times a year. Now I find it many times a month where someone's spleen. The spleen is the part where the body recycles red blood cells and so forth. It seems that the EMF particularly hits the functioning of the spleen energy. And it's only theoretical on my part that the proliferation of all this microwave radiation we're getting from multiple sources all the time is particularly affecting the spleen and part of your immune system and so forth.

All right. Tom, thank you for your call. I know you've talked about this issue off and on for years and I appreciate your opinion there. I kind of have doubts about a trip, but we'll see. Seven minutes after seven, hi, who's this? Good morning. This is not so crazy. This is right down your alley, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Watch out. But yeah, I would just call on a God said, let there be light. The fact that he said that, he vocalized something which caused a vibration. I say we're stepping on God's toes by vibrating all this stuff around and not at ourselves.

That's an interesting point of view on that one, Gene. You're a great clean-up batter on this one. Thanks for the call. KMED, KMED HD1, Eagle Point Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Professor Alan Sanders joins me here in just a few minutes, and we're going to have an interesting talk about what is next for the Epstein files and various other issues that Trump is releasing. Trump administration released Martin Luther King Jr. files to this morning too.