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Episode Date: July 23, 2026

Morning News, a follow up on the illegal alien story last week in the Daily Courier...was he really not a criminal? Dr. Asaf Romirowsky PhD is the Executive Director of Scholars for Peace in the Middl...e East, says NDAA agrreement with ISRAEL is good.

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Starting point is 00:00:55 I was up on Filder Mountain yesterday doing some work, getting some gear repaired, and boy, it was so dry, bone dry. It's like if you drove more than maybe a couple of miles an hour, there was just a huge cloud of dust behind you. I mean, it always does that a little bit in the summertime, but this summertime, perhaps a little bit more summery than usual, as you well know. My boss was saying, you know, Bill, what was the official high in Medford yesterday? Because I was just sweating like a pig.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Of course, I just sweat like a pig in the summertime anyway. And I didn't know. I went and looked that up. Official high in Medford yesterday was 104. So, yep, that was pretty darn toasty for July 22nd. And today we're in the upper 90s instead, so a little bit cooler. So 104, that was it. And however, though, firefighters over on the East Evans Creek fire made a pretty good work of yesterday,
Starting point is 00:01:52 even though it was really hot. We had the higher humidity earlier. They got things a little more lined out there. They're now up to 33% containment, so better news. And I know that they ended up shutting down the evacuation center at Eagle Point Middle School. So that's another sign that the firefighters, I think, are getting a pretty good handle on things. And I'm hoping they're able to continue this. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Now, we did have a couple of other fires, though. Structure fire yesterday. A mobile home was destroyed in Ashland and one right next door to it was damaged. But the great thing about that, though, they had firefighters on that within two or three minutes, and everybody escaped safely. So that was great news. So better news from the Evans Creek fire. Still a lot of acreage, but it doesn't appear to have grown much, if any, even overnight.
Starting point is 00:02:42 It was relatively a cool night. But I don't know what's – I don't know if it's the hot temperatures or what, but there has been a rise of people just kind of getting sporty. in crimes of passion, anger, sort of things like, well, this is like what happened over in Medford the other day. Road rage fight over parking, and it's that liquor store that's down on Stephen Street. I guess it was out in the parking lot. They got into a fight there. And so what happened is that victim there claimed that this guy, David Summers, threatened him, pointed the gun at him,
Starting point is 00:03:24 and fired a bunch of shots. This is over a parking space, a parking space in Medford. You know, this is parking at the liquor store. You got to get in there and get the MD 2020 or whatever. And so Summers then is accused he fled. Medford cops took up and arrested him. So he's going to be in a lot of trouble, no doubt about that. So we have that situation that happened.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And then there was an Ashland man who was arrested yesterday. And this was an attempted robbery from Sunday. and this was over on Clover Lane where this is. It's like this guy sitting in his van, and then the guy, Diagenis, Peña Javier, ends up walking up to him and has a gun, points it at him, is demanding property. And so the guy gets out of the van, I guess, and so they get into a fight.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And fortunately, once again, nobody heard. I'm really glad about this. The van did take a bullet hole, you know, that was about it. But you think about that kind of stuff. Could be a lot worse. And Medford, I'm not sorry, not Medford, but Ashland Police ended up investigating, and they found this guy, and they arrested him yesterday. But we're looking at hot temperatures and hot tempers.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So just take it easy out there, all right? It's one of those things where, you know, when it gets this way and hot and people are all bothered and irritated, it's like, well, all occasionally screw up behind the wheel or something. You accidentally cut somebody off. then they're flipping you off and they're angry. And it's amazing how often you can just, that you can kind of grease the emotions out there a little bit just by, you know, you wave at them and say, hey, hey, put your hands up, hey, sorry, it's okay. Yeah, it's my fault. You know, everybody screws up every now and then out in society.
Starting point is 00:05:18 You just try to not get into gunfights over it, okay? Aye, aye, aye, y'all, of course, if things continue here the way Oregon has been run, which is, unfortunately, Oregon has run pretty poorly, where are we going to put them? Tobias Reid ended up putting out a audit yesterday, and it's just blistering criticism of the Oregon State prison system. It says that there is just so much rot in the buildings and things are crumbling, and there's been deferred maintenance and all of this, and that the Oregon State Penitentiary, built in the 1860s. They say it's functionally obsolete and has just reached the end of its useful life. Gosh, what a piece of crap. You know, built in the 1860s and you're having to get rid of it in 2026.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I'm just kidding. You know what I'm getting at it? What a piece of garbage, no. But I guess they did rebuild it back in the 1950s and ended up getting some improvements put into it. But yeah, that's just it. but once again the state has plenty of money coming in you know when you think about this this prison audit this prison system audit saying that
Starting point is 00:06:29 you know all the prisons are in bad shape and and they need rebuilding there's been a lot of deferred maintenance state has plenty of money coming in it's always about where it chooses to spend the money where it chooses to spend the money and of course one of those things that the state of Oregon likes to spend money on is illegal aliens and health care for illegal aliens. It's a true story. That's one of the reasons why we've been having such problems in the Oregon
Starting point is 00:06:58 Health Plan, because there's a portion of the Oregon Health Plan funding that goes to pay for the health care of people who really aren't supposed to be here in the first place, but you're not supposed to say anything about it because reasons, sanctuary state, and besides everything about Oregon is that we welcome diversity, whether you're able to pay for yourself or not. Just be here and be diverse and we're all happy about that. Speaking of which, I wanted to kind of revisit back to a story I was talking about a little earlier this week because the Daily Courier had a very sympathetic portrayal of a person in Grant's Pass in which the partner, they weren't married, but they've been together
Starting point is 00:07:37 for a long, long time, I guess 15, 16 years, in which this one guy gets up popped by ice back in June. He ends up being arrested and they're going, oh, well, you know, he's not he's not a criminal. And you hear this time and time again. He's not a criminal. And it's not a criminal. And he was a construction worker. And hey, that's fine, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And yet down farther in the story, it says that he had been deported four times in the last 20 years out of the United States of America. It keeps coming in and keeps getting thrown out every time. and that part kind of got hidden in the story a little bit further down. And yet, of course, the family says, well, he's not a criminal. Well, the problem is that the law says something completely different that, you know, somebody who does something like that has committed a crime. In fact, here it is the core crime. In fact, this is it.
Starting point is 00:08:36 It's 8 U.S.C. Section 1326. Illegal reentry. once you have been formally deported, and that guy in Grants Pass that they were talking about in that Daily Courier story was formerly deported. Once you've been formally deported, technically called removal, sneaking back in isn't just an immigration violation, it becomes a federal felony. So that's a federal felony. And I'm surprised I didn't quite get noted in the story about this.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And like I know it's very sympathetic. You're on your way to the construction work. You've been doing this for a long, long time, and you've probably a family. You've set your life up in here. But if ICE pops you, you're already a federal felony. You're a federal felon. And a lot of people don't know that. You know, the first time you get caught with being an illegal immigrant, yeah, they can deport you and no harm, no foul.
Starting point is 00:09:36 They're not going to put you in jail for something like that. You know, it's not the worst crime in the world or the most serious crime. But once you've been deported and then you come back and then you get deported and then you come back and then you get deported and you come back, you are technically an illegal felon, guilty of illegal reentry. That's just it. So when you see these stories that are just wringing their hands about, oh, my goodness, here it is a sanctuary state. We're still continuing to have people being deported. It's just not fair. They have a family here and everything else.
Starting point is 00:10:10 and, well, maybe you should be thinking about these things before you come back, because you got probable cause to go pop you and remove you again. Now, I don't know what's going to happen with this guy from Grants Pass they were talking about in the Daily Courier story, but I know he's in an ICE detention center out of state right now. I don't know if he's going to be just sent back or if he's going to go to prison, probably not going to prison because, frankly, then that illegal alien then becomes even more of an expense on the American taxpayers.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So it's probably just going to be one of those things. Get out this time you really mean it. I don't know. But just remember that when you see these sympathetic stories in Oregon media about illegal aliens getting popped by ice. And everyone will say, well, they're not criminals. Well, if they were deported once and came back, yeah, yeah, they are. 622 at KMED in 993KBXG.
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Starting point is 00:11:50 Okay, the moment I see life-saving donations here in the state of Oregon, my antenna goes up. Let's see how this is written. What equated to a truckload of life-giving opportunities. Oh, wow, this is flowery writing here from the, from the PR person. Okay, what equated to a truckload of life-giving opportunities arrived at the front door of the Coquell Wellness Center
Starting point is 00:12:18 on River Road in Eugene on July 15th, a donation that crosses state borders and came from donors spanning a variety of cultural and economic demographics, just like the people they are hoping to save. It arrived to the Revile or the Reveal, maybe it's the Revile Foundation, a nonprofit organization.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Mission is to help veterans and understand, Underserved people rebuild from the ground up. Oh, it's harm reduction therapeutics. Oh, okay. So Coquale ended up getting this big donation of a lot of naloxone. So a lot of naloxone to revive people who have taken illegal drugs and then got themselves, especially the opiates, you know, the fentanyl, in all the rest of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Boy, it's a lot of flowery language to say that, okay. Okay, here comes the Narcan. Here comes the Narcan, you know, in the tribal clinics and things. I don't know. It would seem to me that the most caring coalition of all would be not necessarily just bringing the Narcan. Not saying that we don't revive people, but wouldn't it be great to get the fentanyl out of the, all the illegal fentanyl and the various other opiates out of the system here in the state of Oregon? I know we're not supposed to pass judgment.
Starting point is 00:13:39 And yeah, I know every, but there's a part of me that it's like life saving, okay? Life saving to what? You know, are you just going to continue to then take it and you're not going to find a way to get off it? I don't know. I don't know. Sometimes I don't want to harden my heart to these sort of things, but, oh, it's life-saving. It would be great if we didn't need to have Narcan everywhere, I guess, is what I'm getting at. All right, enough about that.
Starting point is 00:14:08 628. Vicki's out of the Applegate on conspiracy theory Thursday. So you think there is a conspiracy on the Jeff Dunham ticket giveaways that we've been doing, Vicki? Yes. I think the conspiracy is memory loss for people over 60. Huh. Okay, now I'm going to be 65 here pretty soon. So you're saying I've got memory loss, huh?
Starting point is 00:14:30 I hear you all the time going, what was that guy's name? Where was that place at? Okay, well, you know, does, well, I guess I don't have perfect memory recall, but you know, there's a lot of stuff up in there, Vicki. I know. You have so much to think about it. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of stuff in that head of mine, you know? I might get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And a lot of it is whether I can recall it and pull it out of my hard drive or my mushy hard drive up there as the case might be. Yeah, mine's pretty soft, too, and I don't even have hard drive. Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's, you know, instant recall is sometimes a challenge, but, you know, well, that's when I'm talking on the air with somebody. We're just spitballing. It's just like a regular conversation, you know. I don't remember a lot of things, but so you couldn't remember that it was Walter, that Walter, because.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And you know what's really sad? I have a grandpa Walter, and my brother's middle name is Walter. Oh, no. All I could come up was what Harry or Henry or, I knew it was an old name, but I couldn't remember that it was Walter. Yeah. We were, by the way, that was the question yesterday for the Jeff Dunham tickets. And this is a, this, I was just asking which of the characters that Jeff Dunham does has the, well, looks like Joe Biden, you know, President Biden. I was thinking more like the purple guy.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah, that could be. But what we will do, though, I'm very sorry. I, you know, these are very valuable tickets. I'd just love to just give them to you because, you know, I screwed you over yesterday. Well, I don't expect to get any. I'm just doing my conspiracy against memory loss over 60s. Uh-huh. Well, you know, as far as I'm concerned, any day above the ground right now is okay,
Starting point is 00:16:09 even if we do have an occasional, you know, a little bubble trying to. I totally agree. As long as we don't get to Biden's point, okay? Biden was pretty bad there in the... Oh, my God. Well, honestly, when I'm stressed, there's moments where, yeah, it's like, who am I, where was I, you know, that kind of thing. Well, if you're listening to the show that's on earlier the morning, you know, Larry O'Connor, you've got to have Think Factor. It's got to be Think Factor.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And then you would have won the tickets, okay? Yeah. All right. Well, that's my conspiracy. All right. Well, thanks for sharing it. Actually, we will be giving away some more Jeff Dunham tickets here. In fact, this time, it's going to be reserved seat tickets.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Reserve seat tickets at Britt for this coming Sunday. All right now. It's not right now. Not right now. Maybe next hour I'll find some, well, you know, a break in the, action and we'll have some of that. We'll have some fun. Maybe have some more Jeff Dunham
Starting point is 00:17:03 trivia. Dr. Asaf Romerozky was going to join me here in a couple of minutes. He's the executive director of Scholars for Peace in the Middle East. And there's a big bunch of news about this fiscal year 2027 National Defense Authorization Act.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And it has to do with Section 219. and this is the part that critics are saying is effectively merging the Israeli military with the American military and there are a lot of people on the left that are upset about this. AOC, I guess, got set on fire the other day over it, but there are people on the right wing that are criticizing this too.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Anyway, I'm going to talk with the doctor about that and see what he has to say. I'd like to learn a little bit more. Sweetwater sanitation are your experts in the sanitation business with over 20 years of providing septic services. This is News Talk 1063, KMED, and you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. A lot going on in Washington, D.C. right now. The House is preparing budgets and all the rest of it. They're trying to get another reconciliation passed and also getting the Save America Act put into that. We'll talk about that a little bit later. There is a part of the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act, which has been drawing some attention recently.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It used to be Section 224, or 224. It's now Section 219 in the more than $1 trillion bill. And I wanted to talk about that with Dr. Asafamaraowski Ph.D. He's the executive director of Scholars for Peace in the Middle East. It's trained as a Middle Eastern historian. And he has a Ph.D. in Middle Eastern and Mediterranean Studies from King's College in London. Dr. Romerooski. It's a pleasure having you on.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Good morning, sir. Good morning. Thank you for having me. If you could give me a heads up on, you know, I've seen all sorts of talk on one side or another of this situation of the NDAA. It's Section 219. Some are saying that this is essentially a merger of the United States military with the Israeli military, and then other people on the other side of the argument are talking about this being this is just more coordination or tight integration. I'm kind of wondering if maybe you could dig into this a little more deeply for us and help us understand it. So let's contextualize it just to make clear here.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I mean, the monies of support the getting in these bills, in contrast to other aid bills that are involving other countries where we just give monies to these countries, we support allies and whatnot, the number one and critical difference is that the money that the Israelis get is really an investment. Because what happens is, is they go back into our defense industry. And those are used to help defend and protect our men and women, you know, servicemen and women, you know, in our armed services. And so that's part of the interesting, you know, the investment as far as defense contracts that are going back to, again, enhance jobs here in the United States as far as the, investment that the Israelis have done over the years a lot of the that was used in know was went to produce to fight IEDs in our and Afghanistan other places and
Starting point is 00:20:35 that technology has worked really well um what we're seeing here is you know and I think that this is you know related to the war itself since the war began especially you know when it comes to the the latest round when it comes to Epicure and roaring line I mean we've seen tremendous, and I would say a superb collaboration between Israel and the United States to, you know, working, you know, in uniformity as far as dealing with the war on Iran. And that's something that, you know, I think to the credit of the president, you know, and the collaboration between CENTCOM and the IDF has been magnificent. If you look at the beginning of the war, you saw in, again, the division of labor, the Israeli
Starting point is 00:21:22 and, you know, we're going after leaders. That kind of collaboration, really, to my mind, spoke to the significance and uniqueness of the U.S. as a relationship. In contrast to any other country we've had, allies that we've worked with over the years, this is something that, you know, has, you know, and a lot of productivity all around. Yeah, so you're promoting then Section 219. that this integration, what does it actually do, though?
Starting point is 00:21:56 I mean, you're talking about the fact that we've had good collaboration with the Israelis, but what is Section 219? You know, it talks about more of an integration in that, and critics will say that this is about Israel essentially getting more, I think, for lack of a better term, I'm just going to spitball it with you here, Dr. That they're getting a lot of money that Congress really won't be controlling anymore. It's like the pipeline is no longer politically controlled and that it's just sort of like automatic funding going into the Israeli intelligence and military. I think that's what the criticism is coming from some sectors.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Well, I think the criticism from the left, you know, the hard left in particular, the argument has been that, you know, the Israelis, you know, the way they're acting, you know, inside of Gaza and Lebanon. and the fact that they are in war itself, I think that they are malicious accusations regarding, you know, apartheid genocide and accusation of the sorts, which are, you know, have, you know, are baseless. And so I think that the, you know, the real essence of the defense, you know, Bill itself is the fact that it has created, defense. I mean, you know, this is part of, historically speaking, goes back to the commitment
Starting point is 00:23:26 of what is known as the qualitative military edge that they helped provide, we have helped provide maintaining military superiority in the region. It comes to, you know, the proof, you know, reality we saw when it comes to the war that Israel has been fighting with Iran now, over, you know, since 10-7, as far as this entire war, the, you know, that capability is to deal with and in conjunction with that is why we're in the region, which is why we're collaborating with the Israelis, which is why we're working with the Israelis, not only with the Israelis, but also with the Gulf countries, but that is exactly what I do. I mean, in contrast, let's look at a different kind of a, you know, environment.
Starting point is 00:24:19 I mean, you're a country like Keith. We've been supporting... Excuse me, Doctor. I'm losing some of your cell phone conversation. I don't know if you can reposition it or not. I want to make sure I hear it all. And then please continue, you know, where you're going on this one. Can you hear me now? I can hear you a loud and clear. Okay. As long as you can hear me, we'll keep trying to work through it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:40 What I was saying, a country like a member of those, but has worked together terrorists, countries like Qatar, and with you have, you know, we're talking, there's discussions there, to use airspace, to use it. Turkey has worked, you know, with enemies. And so the Israelis, we have a different constellation with the Israelis where we're usually, we're literally using their airports, we're using their, you know, infrastructure. the collaboration has worked on around in collaboration when it comes to the same military
Starting point is 00:25:23 objectives and goals we're working on together. I think that is another key elicist. Okay, Dr. Asaf, Romerozki is with us. So I guess is this the only ally that we would be having this kind of integration with if this ends up getting passed, if this ends up going through. They're just going through procedural votes right now. but are there other allies that we would have similar military and intelligence agreements to, agreements with? I'm just wondering, because it seems like Israel's being singled out for a special agreement as contrasted with other allies.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Am I right or wrong about that? Well, election, you know, but it's not the only country we give aid to. I mean, oh, I know that. We give aid to lots of countries. I think we're writing hot checks everywhere, dear doctor. Right. No doubt about that. There's a million of people like, you know, all the countries in the region have done that our allies, including each, including Jordan, including others.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I mean, I think that the union here is, of course, you know, my point is the fact, really, to my mind, this is more of an investment than just a hot check. Okay, well, so it's an investment in our, in our own defense. How, okay, is this a jobs program then? Is that kind of what you're, you know, what you're talking about? Well, I mean, the money that is being given or, you know, it's not really given, it's being spent, you know, is being really, is pushed back into our American military industries, you know, and defense contracts, you know, Boeing and others in order to, you know, that the Israelis invested in improving together with their, you know, collaboration and R&D. in Israel and together with the United States and to improve, you know, defending, you know, both Israeli and American, you know, servicemen and women. I mean, I think that's really the bottom line.
Starting point is 00:27:26 What would have, well, okay. I mean, you know, let's, you know, take it, you know, one just, you know, just another better example. I mean, technology like Iron Dome, which has been extremely critical in defending, you know, citizens in Israel, also in the north and the south. also technology that the Israelis gave to example to allies in the Gulf, like the UAE, it was a 10. So, I mean, this kind of defense contracts have multiple uses and have multiple allies as a result. Dr. Romaroski, does this Section 219 end up essentially replacing the standard
Starting point is 00:28:10 aid which Congress would normally vote on? You see, that's what, that's what, and I know that you have characterized this as criticism from the left, but I know a lot of people on the on the hard right that are not real happy about this either. They're seeing us crossing a Rubicon of some sort of too tightly integrating and possibly letting American secret technology be, I mean, even though Israel is an ally, but essentially, you know, we're giving this stuff to a foreign government right now. I'm just talking about what the critics are saying about this right now. Look, I mean, you have criticism on those, I mean, in isolationists who are, and anybody who's against, you know, war is arguing on a bad move or, you know, and, you know, and critical, and U.S. Israel relations, you know, the kind of the horseshoe narrative is, you know, individual, you know, Candice Owen and Tucker Carlson and other, you know, a kind of influencers, you know, and even individuals within, uh, you know, supportive like, you know, J.D. Vance and others. I mean, I would say, but to my mind, again, as I said before, I strongly believe that this is a more of an investment and for the betterment of that is useful to both U.S. and Israel.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And the larger aid part, actually, it was interesting, you know, what's been coming out over the past few weeks. So he actually wants zero out to Israel. from the United States. So they are independently, they're independent of any kind of political entanglement and monies and whatnot. But, you know, there are, you know, there is a significant, but that's, you know, again, there's a lot of political campaigning going on now as the fact that the Israelis are going
Starting point is 00:30:01 into their own election season in October. To my mind, this part of this and, you know, has benefited both the United States and Israel and something that we should actually be building on and collaborating on. And the proof has been, to my mind, even of late, this current war with Iran and how it's been fought together in uniformity and collaboration between the United States and Israel. You know, I find it interesting that I know are we truly in union or united on something like this? because it appears that Israel has been not really attacking Iran. It's been kind of up to United States forces to do that. United States, Israel seems to be more focused on Lebanon, the way I've been looking at it.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Well, there are two, well, there is a kinetic connection here. If you're looking around here, I mean, you know, the current state, I mean, if the attacks, if you're looking at what the Islamic Republic has done, the one country that they haven't attacked to date, you know, in this last, you know, few weeks, you know, these last, even in the last 10 days, has been Israel. They've gone all around. They've attacked Jordan. They've attacked Kuwait.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I mean, they know there'll be consequences. To my mind, we need to go back to where we were at the beginning of the war back in February, where there was joint collaboration. The Israelis have held off, you know, and paused as a result of requests from the administration as a result of the attempt, you know, as far as the, so long as these conversations regarding the MOU were going on. They, you know, to my mind, wasn't going anywhere. The connection to Lebanon has to do, of course, with the fact that the number one of the
Starting point is 00:31:44 number one proxies of Iran is Hezbollah, which is based on Lebanon. So, I mean, there is that kinetic activity. Hasbala was looking to reap the benefits. There is much more, I would say, positivity, you know, now that the president of Lebanon was recently now in the United States, that there could be actually positive movement between Israel and Lebanon. But let's make it not be naive about this. I mean, I think that the Israelis still believe, you know, for good reason and everything we found to support that as well, is that Iran represents an existential threat to Israel. And once they start attacking Israel,
Starting point is 00:32:21 and to my mind, they will, you will see, you will see, you know, there will be significant retaliation. And I think that that's part of what's going on. All along here, let's be clear, There is collaboration between CENTCOM and the IDF, as far as refueling military support, intelligence. All of that still continues, you know, whether or not we're seeing active, you know, movements militarily, but the collaboration continues all around. Dr. Asaf Ramarovsky, he's the executive director of Scholars for Peace in the Middle East. What have we actually gained so far, you think, in the Iran conflict here, Doctor?
Starting point is 00:33:02 And the reason I bring this up is that now it seems like we're fighting really hard to get back to having the Strait of Hormuz actually open all the time, except it was open all the time prior to the start of hostilities with the United States and Israel here, you know, involved in this. So what do we gain do you think so far? Look, we have significantly degraded the Islamic Republic. I mean, Iran, we've been fighting Iran for over 47 years. every act of terrorism over the past four decades has involved
Starting point is 00:33:36 bloody tentacles of the Islamic Republic of Iran so I think that what we are doing here is significantly degrading the capacity as far as the site that we're talking about here
Starting point is 00:33:49 there is a larger question as far as free movement of the waters and naval shipping in the area itself the Iranians are trying to, and they basically have taken hostage the straits of Hormuz. They did it before, and before they were, you know, siphoning off these monies that were going to fund terrorism. And so
Starting point is 00:34:11 that's another element that's playing out here at large. I think we could do a lot more. There's a much more bigger concern still is. So even though we did, you know, even though at the beginning of the attacks hurt significantly the nuclear sites, but there's still more to be done. So this is part of the larger, really taking over this larger amoe to my mind that has really taken hostage to the Middle East as far as acts of terrorism. The multi-front war with Iran has been a proof of all of that. So I think that, you know, but to my mind, there's no short wars and there's no short solutions here as far as reestablishing deterrents. The Iranians have been successful at the negotiating table because they try. try to kind of ride the way, deceitfully, and lie as they've done, pattern of behavior for years.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And we continue to give them billions and billions of dollars of monies that go to continue to fund terrorism. So all of that needs to stop. And the question is, you know, also on a larger scale, freeing the Iranian people from this regime. The Iranian people don't seem to want to be freed by it, though, at least from the reports of all the people going to the funeral, the tens of millions of people? Is that a miscalculation, perhaps? Well, let's be clear. You know, it's one thing to say that, hey, you know, we'd like to free them from the regime,
Starting point is 00:35:42 but it's kind of like, you know, once your country ends up getting attacked, you know, it seems like people wind up behind their government in one form or another. It seems that way. At least that appears to be what's happened. You know, Iran is a very large country. There's a lot of theatres to go into Iran, you know, as far as not to be. mentioned the illustrations of hatred and animosity towards the United States that was displayed during the funeral. I mean, at the beginning of the war, you did see, you know, let's not forget also the cheering, you know, and hailing after Hamenei was taken out by the people.
Starting point is 00:36:15 The people have been used and abused by the regime itself, the public executions. I mean, you know, at this current state, which is a state of war, there is a fear. And so, you know, they're not just going out to the streets under a sphere of repercussions that could mean death. I mean, Iran is, you know, is larger than Texas. We're talking about the size of 91 to 92 million people. I mean, this is a huge country. And so what, you know, what gets out is what the regime wants to get out. I mean, by the other hand, you have a great deal of it, even if you look at the Iranian diaspora here in the state.
Starting point is 00:36:53 and what is coming out as far as the frustration, as far as wanting to remove this regime, I think that those are also elements that are not always getting enough prepped. Very good. What miscalculations, if any, have we done here? You had just mentioned that there are no such thing as long as short wars, rather, and yet it appears that what the American people were told, and were legibly, is that this is going to be relatively quick. You know, you sit there, decapitate Iran, and then the regime collapse.
Starting point is 00:37:23 and then people are dancing in the streets, and then, you know, it's like Iraq version two, you know, that kind of thing. What went wrong you think in that? Again, to my mind, they're not naive about this. I mean, I don't think that they are, I mean, you know, you're talking about a massive albatross here. You know, Iran's hegemonic aspirations, you know, go much deeper and much wider than just like, you know, dealing with the United States. I mean, the crux of this war also stems from a need for religious superiority. This goes to the core of the Sunni-Shiah divide. And so when Iran thinks of itself, it thinks of itself in terms of the Persian Empire.
Starting point is 00:38:09 The religious dimension should not be minimized. And I think that that's another element here that was, you know, not that it was overlooked, but I mean, I think it wasn't pronounced enough to understand how. how the tactics and how Iran plays into all of this. But I think that also, I also think that makes it like, when you're true believers in this religion issue had talked about, they're going to go down to the last person, right? Isn't that kind of the way they would tend to look at it religiously?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Well, you know, the IRGC and the prestige and the religious domination the factors here play into like, you know, they are committed to the goals and the objectives. I think that in the process, you know, if you actually survey and poll Iran, there's much more Western sentiment the amount of population versus, you know, the contrast with the regime and the clerics who views and abuse the people. I think that, you know, we, you know, a long-term plan, you know, as far as dealing with getting rid, you know, if Iran had the capability of the nuclear bomb, they would use it. All right. Do you believe that? That brings up a philosophical question now. What do you think as a student of history here and has looked at this for quite some time now? Is a nuke going to have to be used to keep Iran from getting a nuke, in your opinion? No. I think, you know, I mean, I don't think we're not going in that direction.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Oh, okay. That's not where the thing are. I mean, I think that the nuclear, you know, as far as, you know, We have enough military capabilities, enough tools in our arsenal to deal with Iran. I think that that's not the direction of where things are going. Not to mention the fact that, as you can see, some of the choices of the made of the targets that were chosen, we're also left in order to maintain the civilian infrastructure in order to revitalize the Iranian economy when we get to that point. And furthermore, I would like to see more collaboration from our European friends who've yet to do anything on this one. They have clear reverberating aspects on them as well.
Starting point is 00:40:33 They haven't looked like they're very interested in getting involved. I will agree with you on that one here. Doctor, it's a pleasure talking with you this morning. Very thought-provoking. And I appreciate your perspective on this. And do you write on this over at the Scholars for Peace in the Middle East? Is there anywhere I can direct listeners to take a look at what you're thinking? Our website is ftm.e.org.
Starting point is 00:40:58 A lot of our writings and a lot of our analysis is right there. All right, very good. I appreciate your time this morning, and thank you so much and be well. Take care. Thank you. Take care. Once again, Dr. Asoff-Romorowski Ph.D., Executive Director of Scholars for Peace in the Middle East. It's a shade before seven. This is KMED and KMEDE HD-1 Eagle Point Medford.
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Starting point is 00:42:44 Call today to get an estimate tomorrow. 541-941-3736. CCB number 25730. This is the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Call Bill now. 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. I was talking with Dr. Asaf Ramarowski, and it is interesting. You know, scholars for peace in the Middle East, and he says there's nothing to worry about Section 219
Starting point is 00:43:10 that is sort of deeply integrating the Israeli military and intelligence with the United States military and intelligence. the only ally that we have such an agreement with, and there are people on the left, of course, are screaming about this, but there are people on the right screaming about it, too. But I guess if you're screaming about it on the right, you're an isolationist, I guess. But that's kind of my takeaway, but he says there's nothing to be concerned about that one. Ron's in Medford. Hello, Ron. How are you this morning? Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I'm good. I'm good. I'm good, Bill. How are you doing? I'm doing fine. Did you have any thoughts about what Dr. Romerosky had to say, and it looks like he was very much in favor of the... the Section 219 and that this is actually a good investment for our military and intelligence, is what he thought. Yeah, well, you know, my point is, would you let a child murder or rapist live under your roof? He did cover the Sunni-Shi adversity, but, you know, the Persian Empire's been around long before Islam ever invaded Iran.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yes, they are a fortress. and we have no business being in there. You don't think so, huh? I don't think so. The one thing he didn't mention was a greater Israel project, which we all know about. Just nobody wants to talk about it. So you're thinking were you being led down the Primrose path? Is that what you're thinking?
Starting point is 00:44:40 I believe so. As long as we're paying for it, who cares? Yeah, as long as we're paying for it, right? They weren't paying for it one way or the other. I don't know. It's, I'm a little bit confused. I'm just trying to figure out, though, why we had to have, you know, if any kind of deep integration with any foreign nations.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, you know what, Bill? We should look back at Wesley Clark, seven nations in five years, and talking about the invasions that we're going to have after 9-11. And it all finished off with Iran, and here we are. Yeah, it's all part of the plan you're thinking, huh? It didn't happen in five years, but 25 years. Okay, so the timing was a little bit off. That's all. Ron, I appreciate your call, too. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:45:33 All right. We'll catch up on other news here in just a moment, too. And then another big deal that's going on in Washington, D.C. today is trying to get this reconciliation bill going through and getting parts of the Save America Act passed. And that's, of course, it would require government ID in order to be able to vote. I like the idea about this. I've not seen any real evidence that there are votes for this, that the votes, it's a math problem. And I also think there are some problems with what the Save America Act would do. And I think some of the criticism of it is valid, even though I want the bill.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I want something like this. I want to be able to clean this voting up. We talk about it with Dr. John Lott, Jr., from the Crime Prevention Research Center. We talked with him about a lot of things in the past. Mostly about Second Amendment issues, but he has a pretty strong take on this one, too. We'll talk with him after news, also the hand of the update, too. When was the last time you had your...

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